[WISPA] From Today's WSJ...hope this doesn't offend anyone...seems to be pretty straightforward reporting with minimal opinion

2010-05-06 Thread Jeff Broadwick
New U.S. Push to Regulate Internet Access By AMY SCHATZ WASHINGTON-In a move that will stoke a battle over the future of the Internet, the federal government plans to propose regulating broadband lines under decades-old rules designed for traditional phone networks. The decision, by Federal

Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ...hope this doesn't offend anyone...seems to be pretty straightforward reporting with minimal opinion

2010-05-06 Thread Josh Luthman
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703961104575226583645448758.html Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Thu,

[WISPA] Alright, whodunit?

2010-05-06 Thread Jeremy Parr
http://www.witn.com/home/headlines/92972524.html A fire tower in Craven County is on fire. Smoke and some flames are coming out of the top of the fire tower on old U.S. 70 in Tuscarora. That road is currently shut down. Fire crews used a ladder truck to get water to the top of the tower, which

Re: [WISPA] Alright, whodunit?

2010-05-06 Thread Bret Clark
Well...now I know what the tech meant when he told me the signal should be smoking hot! On Thu, 2010-05-06 at 13:16 -0500, Jeremy Parr wrote: http://www.witn.com/home/headlines/92972524.html A fire tower in Craven County is on fire. Smoke and some flames are coming out of the top of the

Re: [WISPA] Alright, whodunit?

2010-05-06 Thread Bob Moldashel
Has anyone seen Marlon? :-P -B- Jeremy Parr wrote: http://www.witn.com/home/headlines/92972524.html A fire tower in Craven County is on fire. Smoke and some flames are coming out of the top of the fire tower on old U.S. 70 in Tuscarora. That road is currently shut down. Fire crews

Re: [WISPA] [OT] Chicken Currency

2010-05-06 Thread Mike Hammett
I love that story. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 4/25/2010 12:24 AM, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: 95% of the members of this list are probably not familiar with an old WISPCON story that had to do with chickens being currency in Latvia and how I

Re: [WISPA] Qwest buyout

2010-05-06 Thread Mike Hammett
I'm not sure why WISPs resell DSL is any significant capacity. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 4/26/2010 11:31 AM, Ryan Ghering wrote: CenturyLink has the worst billing system in the country. We resell DSL through them, let me tell you its a

Re: [WISPA] Qwest buyout

2010-05-06 Thread Jeromie Reeves
Because dsl has more bandwidth available to it? It can let you bring extra capacity into relay sites, offload constant transfers, etc. Otherwise,I agree. The cost is crazy high (more then buying the same loop + net from the telco). Its a tool, use it where right. On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 12:15 PM,

Re: [WISPA] [OT] Chicken Currency

2010-05-06 Thread Jeff Broadwick
LOL, I still am sore that they wouldn't let us borrow their chicken picture (that was in Dallas)! Regards, Jeff Jeff Broadwick ImageStream 800-813-5123 x106 (US/Can) +1 574-935-8484 x106 (Int'l) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] New WISP

2010-05-06 Thread Mike Hammett
Most of my repeater sites are about $150 - $200 more than the CPE. I upgrade to a 433 from a 411, add another radio, bulkhead pigtail, jumper, cheap omni or sector. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 4/27/2010 10:19 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: All of my

Re: [WISPA] New WISP

2010-05-06 Thread Josh Luthman
Are you saying you have two radios in the 433? Are they the same band? The 411 and 433 share the same horsepower, in case anyone didn't recognize that. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it

[WISPA] POE powered Switch?

2010-05-06 Thread Gino Villarini
Anyone? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] POE powered Switch?

2010-05-06 Thread Josh Luthman
There is already a thread about this on the moto list. What is the application? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On

Re: [WISPA] MT PtP

2010-05-06 Thread Mike Hammett
This is the first I've heard of N-Streme working on Prism. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 4/28/2010 12:11 PM, Blair Davis wrote: Works on Prism, but ALL cards connected to AP must be Prism Josh Luthman wrote: Pretty sure it's just Atheros.

Re: [WISPA] New WISP

2010-05-06 Thread Mike Hammett
I can't find the email now, but Jer sold his wireless operations. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 4/28/2010 1:18 PM, Stuart Pierce wrote: Larry , Shmary, he don't know jack about running a xISP. Just kidding, Larry knows more about being an xISP

Re: [WISPA] POE powered Switch?

2010-05-06 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
For 802.3af compliant . The 3Com Intellijack Series. Linksys / CISCO SLM2008 or SLM2005 *Catalyst 2960PD-8TT-L *Non-Standard POE powered capable. Mikrotik 750 / 750g other Mikrotik Boards Small Linksys Small Dlink (Using a poe injector kit) Does this help you ? Faisal On 5/6/2010 5:25 PM,

Re: [WISPA] New WISP

2010-05-06 Thread Mike Hammett
Usually 5.8 to the tower, and 5.2 for the repeater. I haven't done any repeaters like this since DFS. I do have a couple at 2.4. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 5/6/2010 4:22 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Are you saying you have two radios in the 433?

Re: [WISPA] Qwest buyout

2010-05-06 Thread Mike Hammett
I'll show you a Rocket M5 that has more capacity than entire DSLAMs around here. As wireless gear gets faster and faster while telco provided service remains the same, the place for DSL is becoming less. I won't disagree with your tool comment, but a hammer makes a better striking device

Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........

2010-05-06 Thread Mike Hammett
MTI is damn good quality. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 4/29/2010 8:17 PM, Robert West wrote: I hear ya. I will gladly pay extra now to not have to go back over and over. Pays 10X in the long run. I prefer goo quality. :) I'll give it a

Re: [WISPA] New WISP

2010-05-06 Thread Mike Hammett
I'm the exact opposite, I prefer the ECS (the one with the RJ-45) and hate the pass-through one. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 4/30/2010 8:59 AM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: I do have to tape the outside connections Mike. But instead of running a

Re: [WISPA] New WISP

2010-05-06 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
I have verified with a spectrum analyzer you can run two cards stacked on top in a 433 in the same 5.8 band as long as the channels you are using are at complete opposite ends of the band. 5745 and 5825 and 20mhz channels and they will not bleed over. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126

[WISPA] Netequilizer

2010-05-06 Thread Jeremie Chism
Anybody using this product? We have a pretty good set of qos in our wimax platform but was considering a netequilizer to help with a few HD video streamers we have. Sent from my iPhone WISPA Wants You! Join

Re: [WISPA] Qwest buyout

2010-05-06 Thread Scott Lambert
On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 05:24:46PM -0500, Mike Hammett wrote: I'll show you a Rocket M5 that has more capacity than entire DSLAMs around here. As wireless gear gets faster and faster while telco provided service remains the same, the place for DSL is becoming less. I won't disagree with

Re: [WISPA] Netequilizer

2010-05-06 Thread Chuck Profito
Butch Evans will be much, MUCH cheaper. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremie Chism Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 4:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Netequilizer Anybody using this product? We have a

Re: [WISPA] Netequilizer

2010-05-06 Thread Glenn Kelley
I have not been that pleased with the NetEQ you can do much more with other products ... vyatta, or microtek I believe as well - Check out Butch Evans stuff - he might be able to help On May 6, 2010, at 7:50 PM, Jeremie Chism wrote: Anybody using this product? We have a pretty good set

Re: [WISPA] Netequilizer

2010-05-06 Thread Josh Luthman
I have heard that Butch's template is just as good if not better an alternative (currently MT, soon to be *nix/ImageStream). I've used MT/IS and not touch NetEq. I doubt I ever will. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not

Re: [WISPA] Netequilizer

2010-05-06 Thread Jerry Richardson
Pretty expensive version of Linux iptables. MT is a pretty solid low cost solution with lotsa support. A Pentium 4 with 2GB RAM will handle a butt load of traffic. Jerry -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremie

Re: [WISPA] POE powered Switch?

2010-05-06 Thread RickG
What about this -- http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=551 ? On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Anyone? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143

Re: [WISPA] Netequilizer

2010-05-06 Thread Jeremie Chism
Cisco router handles all of my routing so I was looking for something to go between. Sent from my iPhone On May 6, 2010, at 7:18 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Pretty expensive version of Linux iptables. MT is a pretty solid low cost solution with lotsa support. A

Re: [WISPA] Netequilizer

2010-05-06 Thread Josh Luthman
Why can't MT do that? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com

Re: [WISPA] Netequilizer

2010-05-06 Thread Jeremie Chism
Two 750g's is the extent of my MT knowledge so maybe it can. Sent from my iPhone On May 6, 2010, at 7:53 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Why can't MT do that? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success

Re: [WISPA] Netequilizer

2010-05-06 Thread Jeremie Chism
And I'm sure it can probably prioritize voip traffic. Sent from my iPhone On May 6, 2010, at 7:58 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: For some networks, NetEq is a good solution. I've had one on my network for a few years. It was before Butch came up with his solution. It was a real

Re: [WISPA] WAS: Netequilizer NOW Bandwidth Shaping

2010-05-06 Thread Glenn Kelley
Bandwidth Shaping can be as hard or as easy as you want to make it - (ok maybe not that ... ) If you are friendly with Linux and IPTables - there are Free solutions Linux Advanced Routing Traffic Control HOWTO - http://lartc.org/lartc.html Traffic Control using tcng and HTB HOWTO -

Re: [WISPA] Netequilizer

2010-05-06 Thread tim wolfe
I've had a NetEq box running for over 3 years. It is a plug and play setup and does a great job if you like the hands off sorta thing. The bad side is the licensing and the upgrading policy. IT STINKS!. If you buy a unit that is only 3 months old off of Ebay, you can forget support. There was a

Re: [WISPA] New WISP

2010-05-06 Thread Robert West
What omini are you using, Josh? Running 2.4 on the Tik boxes with the XR2? Just interested in the setup on your end. Sounds like a winner. Bo- - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 5:21

Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........

2010-05-06 Thread Robert West
I've been looking at them and reading and it's all good. Looks like the ca$h is well worth it. Hurts, but still seems to be money well spent. UBNT tells me august for 900MHz sectors and rockets.. Bob- - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To:

Re: [WISPA] Netequilizer

2010-05-06 Thread Robert West
MT washes my clothes and folds my pants. It can do EVERYTHING! Bob- - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 8:53 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netequilizer Why can't MT do that? Josh

Re: [WISPA] New WISP

2010-05-06 Thread Josh Luthman
I've not run any XR2, actually. Probably should. I think the next one we do one in a few weeks I will try it out. I've used the wlm54ag a bunch. Pac antennas. I've not had any more or less success with others. Comet with 3* downtilt seemed a bit less then Pac's big one (12dbi?) but the

Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not healthcare, taxes or government related.........

2010-05-06 Thread Josh Luthman
900.OFDMI can't sleep I'm so excited! On 5/6/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: I've been looking at them and reading and it's all good. Looks like the ca$h is well worth it. Hurts, but still seems to be money well spent. UBNT tells me august for 900MHz sectors and

Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ...hope this doesn't offendanyone...seems to be pretty straightforward reporting withminimal opinion

2010-05-06 Thread MDK
Opinion: It won't be good. Also, the financial reform currently contains a provision that requires ANY contract that can be construed as credit extended to your customer be approved by an as yet not created federal agency. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy

Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........

2010-05-06 Thread Robert West
Oh, hell yes, my brother! - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 11:23 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government

Re: [WISPA] New WISP

2010-05-06 Thread Blair Davis
The 433 is more than adequate for 2 cards for a low usage repeater... Josh Luthman wrote: Are you saying you have two radios in the 433? Are they the same band? The 411 and 433 share the same horsepower, in case anyone didn't recognize that. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct:

Re: [WISPA] Qwest buyout

2010-05-06 Thread Mike Hammett
Depends on the state. :-p - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 5/6/2010 6:52 PM, Scott Lambert wrote: On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 05:24:46PM -0500, Mike Hammett wrote: I'll show you a Rocket M5 that has more capacity than entire DSLAMs around here.

Re: [WISPA] Qwest buyout

2010-05-06 Thread Glenn Kelley
funny - i was just thinking the same thing... On May 7, 2010, at 12:23 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: Depends on the state. :-p - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 5/6/2010 6:52 PM, Scott Lambert wrote: On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 05:24:46PM -0500, Mike

Re: [WISPA] New WISP

2010-05-06 Thread Blair Davis
I've been doing that for a couple of years... But I've only been leaving 1 or 2 empty channels between them 20-40 MHz open space. Kurt Fankhauser wrote: I have verified with a spectrum analyzer you can run two cards stacked on top in a 433 in the same 5.8 band as long as the channels

Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not healthcare, taxes or government related.........

2010-05-06 Thread Blair Davis
Now, just make the CPE's work with my existing XR9 based AP's!!! Josh Luthman wrote: 900.OFDMI can't sleep I'm so excited! On 5/6/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: I've been looking at them and reading and it's all good. Looks like the ca$h is well

Re: [WISPA] Qwest buyout

2010-05-06 Thread Robert West
Go to bed. - Original Message - From: Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 12:25 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Qwest buyout funny - i was just thinking the same thing... On May 7, 2010, at 12:23 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: