Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX data / mgmt cable connection question

2010-06-11 Thread Tom DeReggi
Trango Apexes and Dragonwaves use the same type cable Entry fitting.
They are the highest quality fitting on the market in my opinion for THIN 
outdoor Cat5.
Shireen outdoor shielded directburiel cable fits through just fine, and I 
recommend the use of it, for Trango Apexes.

HOWEVER, IF you use THICK outdoor direct buriel cable such as Superior 
Essex, Beldon, or Mohawk (.4- .45), it will NOT fit through, and makes a 
very poor design.
It is disappointing that there is not an optional Passthru fitting for 
thicker cable.  With Superior Essex what we have to do is, we strip off the 
outer PVC layer and then the inner layer will fit through the fitting. 
Obviously this leave a water liabilty to the inside of the outer layer. 
So... That means water proofing it with Mastic and Electrical tape, just 
like any other COAX connector needing sealed. This is not pretty. However, 
the Superior Essex's inner rubbery shield does offer some water proofing, so 
its not that bad.

The connectors are called the Conec system.  They can be bought from Conec 
or Digikey. What we really need to  do is convince Conec to amke a revised 
version to accept the larger diameter Cable.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net
To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX data / mgmt cable connection question


 We use what is provided by Trango. We have never sealed or
 weatherproofed them.

 Travis
 Microserv


 Scott Carullo wrote:
 Those of you that use this equipment do you recommend using the supplied
 connectors for ethernet only or do you seal around them with additional
 material like coax seal or similar?

 I have never liked connectors that have cables enter from the sides into
 the equipment even with the fancy seal connectors provided.  I just don't
 want to have a problem and was curious what you guys do to keep the water
 out or if what is provided is sufficient.

 Thanks for your time.

 Scott Carullo
 Brevard Wireless
 321-205-1100 x102




 
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[WISPA] HSS for RW2000

2010-06-11 Thread Patrick Shoemaker
Does anyone know if it is possible to use a straight through cat-5 cable 
to connect the HSS ports on two RADWIN 2000 radios (without using an HSS 
module)? If so, anyone know the electrical specs on these signals so I 
can use proper surge protection?

-- 
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[WISPA] Looking to Sell..........

2010-06-11 Thread Sara Gray
Tranzeo CPQ 19f

 

We are switching frequencies and have between 50 and 100 to sell.  Hoping
they are worth around $100.  Please reply offlist to i...@jcwifi.com.

 

 

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Re: [WISPA] Burying Cable

2010-06-11 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
All of our cable is now run in conduit.  I gave up on direct bury years ago.

Eventually it fills with water, gets hit or has the moles eat it.

I also normally bury 12 to 18 deep these days.  No more cut wires (so 
far!).
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: D. Ryan Spott rsp...@irongoat.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 8:03 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Burying Cable


 This is easy...

 Explain to your customer that you do not trench and you have to run cable
 across the yard.

 Lay the cable out and tell them to bury it.

 I tell my customers to bury the cable buy placing a shovel in the sod and
 just cutting down far enough to get under the sod.

 Then stuff in the wire.

 This technique does not apply if the customer:
 Runs horses as lawn mowers.
 Uses one of those 'aerating' machines.
 discs the yard (yes, this has happened)
 Have 'digging' dogs... or Black labs (black labs LOVE outdoor cable)

 I allow for one splice for free for the above. Additional trips cost 
 money.

 ryan


 On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 8:13 AM, Robert West 
 robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:

 Other than renting or buying a small trenching machine (That I'm sure I'd
 use to slice every cable and natural gas/water/sewage line within 20 feet
 of
 me the first time I use it)  I'm interested in seeing if there is a tool
 that will let a person (Or corporation)  push low voltage cable down 
 below
 the sod.  I have a design in mind but if there is already something out
 there I'd like to see it.  Yeah, to buy it or maybe rip them off and make
 my
 own from how theirs look...  It's a thing..  Anyhow, I normally take a
 shovel and make a slit in the sod and stuff the cable down in it but 
 doing
 a
 100+ foot run can make your day less fun than it already was.



 Anyone using any human powered tool (Other than a shovel or paying some 
 kid
 20 bucks to do it for you) to bury cable?



 Robert West

 Just Micro Digital Services Inc.

 740-335-7020



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Re: [WISPA] Google is out of control.

2010-06-11 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
OK, speaking of google.

Lately (last few days maybe?) I've noticed that the links at the top and 
bottom of the page take a few seconds longer to load than the search box 
does.

Is this something that's happening on my site or is it everywhere?

laters,
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google is out of control.


 I'm just gonna change mine to Google.NU.  Still the old Google.  I guess 
 the
 island of Niue just isn't very important..

 :)



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 Behalf Of Al Stewart
 Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 12:07 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google is out of control.

 Really? .. On Google Canada, all I get is the Google Account sign in page.



 -- At 08:47 AM 06/10/2010 -0700, Jeromie Reeves wrote: ---

You can click the change background link and change it back to white.

The 'Future' I spoke of was a sunlit desert or was it a dessert? The
mirage is kinda fuzzy after that kool-aid.

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Re: [WISPA] Google is out of control.

2010-06-11 Thread Al Stewart
It's been happening here for awhile. Actually if you drag your cursor 
around the screen where other links are supposed to be (without 
clicking) I think they show up quicker. My, sort of, observations, anyway.

Al

-- At 08:05 AM 06/11/2010 -0700, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: ---

OK, speaking of google.

Lately (last few days maybe?) I've noticed that the links at the top and
bottom of the page take a few seconds longer to load than the search box
does.

Is this something that's happening on my site or is it everywhere?

laters,
marlon

- Original Message -
From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google is out of control.


  I'm just gonna change mine to Google.NU.  Still the old Google.  I guess
  the
  island of Niue just isn't very important..
 
  :)
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of Al Stewart
  Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 12:07 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google is out of control.
 
  Really? .. On Google Canada, all I get is the Google Account sign in page.
 
 
 
  -- At 08:47 AM 06/10/2010 -0700, Jeromie Reeves wrote: ---
 
 You can click the change background link and change it back to white.
 
 The 'Future' I spoke of was a sunlit desert or was it a dessert? The
 mirage is kinda fuzzy after that kool-aid.
 
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Re: [WISPA] Google is out of control.

2010-06-11 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Hmmm.  Wonder if that's something MS is causing via IE or if it's a google 
thing?

Very frustrating.  Makes my service look slow as hell when people use google 
for their home page (and a LOT do).
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: Al Stewart stewa...@westcreston.ca
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 8:12 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google is out of control.


 It's been happening here for awhile. Actually if you drag your cursor
 around the screen where other links are supposed to be (without
 clicking) I think they show up quicker. My, sort of, observations, anyway.

 Al

 -- At 08:05 AM 06/11/2010 -0700, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: ---

OK, speaking of google.

Lately (last few days maybe?) I've noticed that the links at the top and
bottom of the page take a few seconds longer to load than the search box
does.

Is this something that's happening on my site or is it everywhere?

laters,
marlon

- Original Message -
From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google is out of control.


  I'm just gonna change mine to Google.NU.  Still the old Google.  I 
  guess
  the
  island of Niue just isn't very important..
 
  :)
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of Al Stewart
  Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 12:07 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google is out of control.
 
  Really? .. On Google Canada, all I get is the Google Account sign in 
  page.
 
 
 
  -- At 08:47 AM 06/10/2010 -0700, Jeromie Reeves wrote: ---
 
 You can click the change background link and change it back to white.
 
 The 'Future' I spoke of was a sunlit desert or was it a dessert? The
 mirage is kinda fuzzy after that kool-aid.
 
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[WISPA] BBC Arcticle- TitleII reclass

2010-06-11 Thread Tom DeReggi
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8734347.stm

The Broadband Internet Technical Advisory Group, formed by ATT, Verizon, 
Comcast, Google, Intel and Microsoft, will develop consensus on broadband 
network management practices or other related technical issues that can 
affect users' internet experience.

This or any other voluntary effort is not a substitute for the government 
setting basic rules of the road for the internet, said Chris Riley, policy 
counsel at Free Press a Washington based advocacy group.

Allowing industry to set its own rules is like allowing BP to regulate its 
drilling.

As many know, I am a strong advocate AGAINST TItleII reclassification.

As well, I've always been a huge fan of Copps over the years, but I sit on 
the opposite side of the table regarding the TitleII Reclassification topic.

 But the text above from the BBC arcticle is super scary.

Probably the worst threat of NOT implementing NetNeutrality in some 
capacity, is that there would be no regulation to guarantee that content 
would not be blocked from small Internet providers. Without Content 
neutrality, small ISPs are vulnerable. AKA the ESPN360 Issue.  (note: Just 
got another call today, from a retail venue customer asking why they cant 
get ESPN360 over my network, to view the WorldCUP ?  And that customer is 
now deciding, whether to switch to Comcast or not, because they have no 
other chocie if they want that content.

The last thing in the world we want is a group operated by ATT, Verizon, 
Comcast, Google, Intel, and Microsoft, THE GOLIATHS OF ATTEMPTING TO CONTROL 
CONTENT AND HIJACK the INTERNET AS THEIR OWN, to define what is fair in 
Netneutrlaity and CONTENT NEUTRALITY.   I'd rather the FCC regulate it, than 
have our competition Regulate it.

However, Copp makes a strong statement that

If the Commission fails to reassert its authority, then the days of the 
open internet will be succeeded by the age of the gatekeepers, said 
Commissioner Copps.

There is some truth to that.  But when will they learn that the threat is 
not blocking Content, the Threat to the INternet is Blocking Competition, 
and Content from smaller competitive ISPs?

I'm not so concerned about the FCC regaining their authority, as I am about 
them getting the message about what they'd really need to do, if they 
regained authority.

What the FCC should do instead is Fund a Law Suit on behalf of consumers and 
small ISPs, against the monopolies for business tort and anticompetive 
practices and video content distribution violations. The FCC doesn't need 
authority to rule to replace the courts, all they need is authroirty to 
represent consumers (and Competition) in Court.

The FCC lost the battle that they did not have authority to control 
Comcast's network. But so what. They did not fight the battle yet on whether 
Comcast's practices were Anti-Competitive based on the other laws that 
pre-exist.

Would it not make sense to test the other angles of pre-existing laws first?

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband



- Original Message - 
From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX data / mgmt cable connection question


 Trango Apexes and Dragonwaves use the same type cable Entry fitting.
 They are the highest quality fitting on the market in my opinion for THIN
 outdoor Cat5.
 Shireen outdoor shielded directburiel cable fits through just fine, and I
 recommend the use of it, for Trango Apexes.

 HOWEVER, IF you use THICK outdoor direct buriel cable such as Superior
 Essex, Beldon, or Mohawk (.4- .45), it will NOT fit through, and makes a
 very poor design.
 It is disappointing that there is not an optional Passthru fitting for
 thicker cable.  With Superior Essex what we have to do is, we strip off 
 the
 outer PVC layer and then the inner layer will fit through the fitting.
 Obviously this leave a water liabilty to the inside of the outer layer.
 So... That means water proofing it with Mastic and Electrical tape, just
 like any other COAX connector needing sealed. This is not pretty. However,
 the Superior Essex's inner rubbery shield does offer some water proofing, 
 so
 its not that bad.

 The connectors are called the Conec system.  They can be bought from 
 Conec
 or Digikey. What we really need to  do is convince Conec to amke a revised
 version to accept the larger diameter Cable.

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message - 
 From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net
 To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 11:46 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX data / mgmt cable connection question


 We use what is provided by Trango. We have never sealed or
 weatherproofed them.

 Travis
 Microserv


 Scott Carullo wrote:
 Those of you that use this equipment do 

Re: [WISPA] Google is out of control.

2010-06-11 Thread Jeromie Reeves
Thats a new feature of Google. Fading in the links, when all you want
is the search box.

On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com 
wrote:
 Hmmm.  Wonder if that's something MS is causing via IE or if it's a google
 thing?

 Very frustrating.  Makes my service look slow as hell when people use google
 for their home page (and a LOT do).
 marlon

 - Original Message -
 From: Al Stewart stewa...@westcreston.ca
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 8:12 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google is out of control.


 It's been happening here for awhile. Actually if you drag your cursor
 around the screen where other links are supposed to be (without
 clicking) I think they show up quicker. My, sort of, observations, anyway.

 Al

 -- At 08:05 AM 06/11/2010 -0700, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: ---

OK, speaking of google.

Lately (last few days maybe?) I've noticed that the links at the top and
bottom of the page take a few seconds longer to load than the search box
does.

Is this something that's happening on my site or is it everywhere?

laters,
marlon

- Original Message -
From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google is out of control.


  I'm just gonna change mine to Google.NU.  Still the old Google.  I
  guess
  the
  island of Niue just isn't very important..
 
  :)
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of Al Stewart
  Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 12:07 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google is out of control.
 
  Really? .. On Google Canada, all I get is the Google Account sign in
  page.
 
 
 
  -- At 08:47 AM 06/10/2010 -0700, Jeromie Reeves wrote: ---
 
 You can click the change background link and change it back to white.
 
 The 'Future' I spoke of was a sunlit desert or was it a dessert? The
 mirage is kinda fuzzy after that kool-aid.
 
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Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..........

2010-06-11 Thread Ryan Spott
What are you guys moving to?

ryan

On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Sara Gray li...@jcwifi.com wrote:

 Tranzeo CPQ 19f



 We are switching frequencies and have between 50 and 100 to sell.  Hoping
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Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..........

2010-06-11 Thread Chuck Hogg
Most I've received is about $50 for them...I still have some too.

Regards,
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Subject: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..

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[WISPA] For Sale: Canopy Gear Awesome Prices.

2010-06-11 Thread Ryan Ghering
(6) 5700BH20 P8 and P9 models : $350.00 each
(2) 5200BH20 P8 models : $300.00 each
(3) 2450AP 1 P10 2 P9's : $600.00 each (NEW)
(3) 5200AP P8 models:  $250.00 each
(1) 5250AP P10 model : $600.00 (NEW)

All units have been tested and work properly.

Will ask a bulk price for the lot of : $4750.00 if anyone is interested. Or
make an offer...

Contact offlist rgher...@gmail.com or call 970-630-1879

-- 
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Re: [WISPA] BBC Arcticle- TitleII reclass

2010-06-11 Thread chris cooper


Here's an interesting list of Comcast assets:
http://arstechnica.com/media/news/2009/12/what-exactly-does-comcast-alre
ady-own-heres-a-list.ars

Couple all these with a stake in NBC/Universal and you have a content
mega powerhouse.  If you own the content and own distribution you can
control the market.  Blocking content = blocking competition.

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Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..........

2010-06-11 Thread Steve Barnes
Not interested at the moment.  Just bought 25 at $30 Each.

Steve Barnes
Manager
PCS-WIN
RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service

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Of Sara Gray
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:55 AM
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Subject: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..

Tranzeo CPQ 19f

 

We are switching frequencies and have between 50 and 100 to sell.  Hoping they 
are worth around $100.  Please reply offlist to i...@jcwifi.com.

 

 

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[WISPA] LOA for VoIP

2010-06-11 Thread Chuck Hogg
Does anyone have any standard LOA's for their VoIP agreements?  We've
been using one, but would like to see what others are doing?  You can
attach and send to me offlist.

 

Regards,

Chuck Hogg

Shelby Broadband
502-722-9292
ch...@shelbybb.com mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com 

http://www.shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com 

 




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Re: [WISPA] LOA for VoIP

2010-06-11 Thread Patrick Shoemaker

Attached.

Patrick Shoemaker
Vector Data Systems LLC
shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com
office: (301) 358-1690 x36
http://www.vectordatasystems.com


Chuck Hogg wrote:

Does anyone have any standard LOA's for their VoIP agreements?  We've
been using one, but would like to see what others are doing?  You can
attach and send to me offlist.

 


Regards,

Chuck Hogg

Shelby Broadband
502-722-9292
ch...@shelbybb.com mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com 

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Re: [WISPA] BBC Arcticle- TitleII reclass

2010-06-11 Thread Tom DeReggi
I agree.

I guess Anti-trust laws would also apply to this topic.
But is that a FCC or FTC jurisdiction? Should we also be lobbying the FTC?

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: chris cooper ccoo...@intelliwave.com
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] BBC Arcticle- TitleII reclass




 Here's an interesting list of Comcast assets:
 http://arstechnica.com/media/news/2009/12/what-exactly-does-comcast-alre
 ady-own-heres-a-list.ars

 Couple all these with a stake in NBC/Universal and you have a content
 mega powerhouse.  If you own the content and own distribution you can
 control the market.  Blocking content = blocking competition.

 Chris



 
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Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..........

2010-06-11 Thread Sara Gray
We switched to M5's

Sara

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Behalf Of Ryan Spott
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:32 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..

What are you guys moving to?

ryan

On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Sara Gray li...@jcwifi.com wrote:

 Tranzeo CPQ 19f



 We are switching frequencies and have between 50 and 100 to sell.  Hoping
 they are worth around $100.  Please reply offlist to i...@jcwifi.com.





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Re: [WISPA] Google is out of control.

2010-06-11 Thread Josh Luthman
If you load the page and do nothing it should never load.

If you move the mouse pointer anywhere on the page within the frame it
should show up.

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On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net wrote:
 Thats a new feature of Google. Fading in the links, when all you want
 is the search box.

 On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com 
 wrote:
 Hmmm.  Wonder if that's something MS is causing via IE or if it's a google
 thing?

 Very frustrating.  Makes my service look slow as hell when people use google
 for their home page (and a LOT do).
 marlon

 - Original Message -
 From: Al Stewart stewa...@westcreston.ca
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 8:12 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google is out of control.


 It's been happening here for awhile. Actually if you drag your cursor
 around the screen where other links are supposed to be (without
 clicking) I think they show up quicker. My, sort of, observations, anyway.

 Al

 -- At 08:05 AM 06/11/2010 -0700, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: ---

OK, speaking of google.

Lately (last few days maybe?) I've noticed that the links at the top and
bottom of the page take a few seconds longer to load than the search box
does.

Is this something that's happening on my site or is it everywhere?

laters,
marlon

- Original Message -
From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google is out of control.


  I'm just gonna change mine to Google.NU.  Still the old Google.  I
  guess
  the
  island of Niue just isn't very important..
 
  :)
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
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  Behalf Of Al Stewart
  Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 12:07 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google is out of control.
 
  Really? .. On Google Canada, all I get is the Google Account sign in
  page.
 
 
 
  -- At 08:47 AM 06/10/2010 -0700, Jeromie Reeves wrote: ---
 
 You can click the change background link and change it back to white.
 
 The 'Future' I spoke of was a sunlit desert or was it a dessert? The
 mirage is kinda fuzzy after that kool-aid.
 
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Re: [WISPA] LOA for VoIP

2010-06-11 Thread Josh Luthman
Online.

https://docs.google.com/a/imaginenetworksllc.com/Doc?docid=0AbmY9mL0ZUztZGRiNjdzdHhfMTI0ZzU5MjZyZmchl=en

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On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Patrick Shoemaker
shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com wrote:
 Attached.

 Patrick Shoemaker
 Vector Data Systems LLC
 shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com
 office: (301) 358-1690 x36
 http://www.vectordatasystems.com


 Chuck Hogg wrote:

 Does anyone have any standard LOA's for their VoIP agreements?  We've
 been using one, but would like to see what others are doing?  You can
 attach and send to me offlist.


 Regards,

 Chuck Hogg

 Shelby Broadband
 502-722-9292
 ch...@shelbybb.com mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com
 http://www.shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com




 
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Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..........

2010-06-11 Thread Tom DeReggi
 $100

I doubt it.  New equivellent class or better 2.4 CPEs at near that gain 
(alternate brands), are going for as low as $80 now adays. Maybe even less. 
Why buy old/used Wifi?
Atleast not in 2.4G, that have so many vendor options, new and used.

Good luck with liquidating, but I'd side with Chuck, that you'd be lucky to 
get $50, on the high side.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Sara Gray li...@jcwifi.com
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:54 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..


 Tranzeo CPQ 19f



 We are switching frequencies and have between 50 and 100 to sell.  Hoping
 they are worth around $100.  Please reply offlist to i...@jcwifi.com.





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Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..........

2010-06-11 Thread Josh Luthman
An NS2 is $80 list.

I think most will agree it is superior, too.

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On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net wrote:
 $100

 I doubt it.  New equivellent class or better 2.4 CPEs at near that gain
 (alternate brands), are going for as low as $80 now adays. Maybe even less.
 Why buy old/used Wifi?
 Atleast not in 2.4G, that have so many vendor options, new and used.

 Good luck with liquidating, but I'd side with Chuck, that you'd be lucky to
 get $50, on the high side.

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message -
 From: Sara Gray li...@jcwifi.com
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:54 AM
 Subject: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..


 Tranzeo CPQ 19f



 We are switching frequencies and have between 50 and 100 to sell.  Hoping
 they are worth around $100.  Please reply offlist to i...@jcwifi.com.





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[WISPA] Tranzeo Gear

2010-06-11 Thread Michael Baird
I've got some Tranzeo gear for sale, not sure of the exact quantities, 
just let me know what you need. We've tested/cleared and upgraded all of 
these units, the 2.4 units all support 5/10/20 mhz channel widths.

TR-CPQ-15's - $40
TR-CPQ-19's - $60
TR-5A's - $100
TR-6000's - $100

Regards
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Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..........

2010-06-11 Thread Michael Baird
Not as big an antenna though, CPQ-15's you should compare with PS2's if 
anything, they work about the same in the field on receive.

Regards
Michael Baird
 An NS2 is $80 list.

 I think most will agree it is superior, too.

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 Direct: 937-552-2343
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 Troy, OH 45373

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 continue that counts.”
 --- Winston Churchill



 On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Tom DeReggiwirelessn...@rapiddsl.net  
 wrote:

 $100

 I doubt it.  New equivellent class or better 2.4 CPEs at near that gain
 (alternate brands), are going for as low as $80 now adays. Maybe even less.
 Why buy old/used Wifi?
 Atleast not in 2.4G, that have so many vendor options, new and used.

 Good luck with liquidating, but I'd side with Chuck, that you'd be lucky to
 get $50, on the high side.

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message -
 From: Sara Grayli...@jcwifi.com
 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:54 AM
 Subject: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..


  
 Tranzeo CPQ 19f



 We are switching frequencies and have between 50 and 100 to sell.  Hoping
 they are worth around $100.  Please reply offlist to i...@jcwifi.com.





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Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..........

2010-06-11 Thread Josh Luthman
Then get a grid and slap it on.  I have two parts for small or big
links.  I use the Pac grids.

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On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com wrote:
 Not as big an antenna though, CPQ-15's you should compare with PS2's if
 anything, they work about the same in the field on receive.

 Regards
 Michael Baird
 An NS2 is $80 list.

 I think most will agree it is superior, too.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
 continue that counts.”
 --- Winston Churchill



 On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Tom DeReggiwirelessn...@rapiddsl.net  
 wrote:

 $100

 I doubt it.  New equivellent class or better 2.4 CPEs at near that gain
 (alternate brands), are going for as low as $80 now adays. Maybe even less.
 Why buy old/used Wifi?
 Atleast not in 2.4G, that have so many vendor options, new and used.

 Good luck with liquidating, but I'd side with Chuck, that you'd be lucky to
 get $50, on the high side.

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message -
 From: Sara Grayli...@jcwifi.com
 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:54 AM
 Subject: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..



 Tranzeo CPQ 19f



 We are switching frequencies and have between 50 and 100 to sell.  Hoping
 they are worth around $100.  Please reply offlist to i...@jcwifi.com.





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Re: [WISPA] Burying Cable

2010-06-11 Thread Robert West
I use direct bury, shielded, flooded cable exclusively for all installs in
ground or above.  Haven't had any water issues at all concerning cable.  We
have some moles but been lucky by not having them do any damage to us.  I
do, however, always put conduit where the cable exits the ground and up to
either out of reach or where it enters a building.  Keeps the weed whackers
away!

Bob-


Oh, and for the flooded portion, I have had a lot of people turn their nose
up at flooded cable because, as they say, the gel leaks out.  So.  I
hung a 300 foot length vertical from a tower for 2 months, not for this but
because I got sidetracked...  happens  anyhow, bottom end was left raw
and no gel leakage.  I was expecting a big glop of goop but it was all good.
Temp was in the high 80's for at least 2 weeks of that time.  The stuff I
use now has the gel that is more of a lotion and not like the icky-pik
paraffin wax stuff that I'm glad to get rid of even though it's still stuck
to everything in the van.

Fin



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 11:01 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Burying Cable

All of our cable is now run in conduit.  I gave up on direct bury years ago.

Eventually it fills with water, gets hit or has the moles eat it.

I also normally bury 12 to 18 deep these days.  No more cut wires (so 
far!).
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: D. Ryan Spott rsp...@irongoat.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 8:03 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Burying Cable


 This is easy...

 Explain to your customer that you do not trench and you have to run cable
 across the yard.

 Lay the cable out and tell them to bury it.

 I tell my customers to bury the cable buy placing a shovel in the sod and
 just cutting down far enough to get under the sod.

 Then stuff in the wire.

 This technique does not apply if the customer:
 Runs horses as lawn mowers.
 Uses one of those 'aerating' machines.
 discs the yard (yes, this has happened)
 Have 'digging' dogs... or Black labs (black labs LOVE outdoor cable)

 I allow for one splice for free for the above. Additional trips cost 
 money.

 ryan


 On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 8:13 AM, Robert West 
 robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:

 Other than renting or buying a small trenching machine (That I'm sure I'd
 use to slice every cable and natural gas/water/sewage line within 20 feet
 of
 me the first time I use it)  I'm interested in seeing if there is a tool
 that will let a person (Or corporation)  push low voltage cable down 
 below
 the sod.  I have a design in mind but if there is already something out
 there I'd like to see it.  Yeah, to buy it or maybe rip them off and make
 my
 own from how theirs look...  It's a thing..  Anyhow, I normally take a
 shovel and make a slit in the sod and stuff the cable down in it but 
 doing
 a
 100+ foot run can make your day less fun than it already was.



 Anyone using any human powered tool (Other than a shovel or paying some 
 kid
 20 bucks to do it for you) to bury cable?



 Robert West

 Just Micro Digital Services Inc.

 740-335-7020



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Re: [WISPA] LOA for VoIP

2010-06-11 Thread Josh Luthman
Wrong link, try this:

https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AbmY9mL0ZUztZGRiNjdzdHhfMTI0ZzU5MjZyZmchl=en

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continue that counts.”
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On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
 Online.

 https://docs.google.com/a/imaginenetworksllc.com/Doc?docid=0AbmY9mL0ZUztZGRiNjdzdHhfMTI0ZzU5MjZyZmchl=en

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
 continue that counts.”
 --- Winston Churchill



 On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Patrick Shoemaker
 shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com wrote:
 Attached.

 Patrick Shoemaker
 Vector Data Systems LLC
 shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com
 office: (301) 358-1690 x36
 http://www.vectordatasystems.com


 Chuck Hogg wrote:

 Does anyone have any standard LOA's for their VoIP agreements?  We've
 been using one, but would like to see what others are doing?  You can
 attach and send to me offlist.


 Regards,

 Chuck Hogg

 Shelby Broadband
 502-722-9292
 ch...@shelbybb.com mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com
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Re: [WISPA] Google is out of control.

2010-06-11 Thread Jeromie Reeves
Exactly.

On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
 If you load the page and do nothing it should never load.

 If you move the mouse pointer anywhere on the page within the frame it
 should show up.

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 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
 continue that counts.”
 --- Winston Churchill



 On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net 
 wrote:
 Thats a new feature of Google. Fading in the links, when all you want
 is the search box.

 On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com 
 wrote:
 Hmmm.  Wonder if that's something MS is causing via IE or if it's a google
 thing?

 Very frustrating.  Makes my service look slow as hell when people use google
 for their home page (and a LOT do).
 marlon

 - Original Message -
 From: Al Stewart stewa...@westcreston.ca
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 8:12 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google is out of control.


 It's been happening here for awhile. Actually if you drag your cursor
 around the screen where other links are supposed to be (without
 clicking) I think they show up quicker. My, sort of, observations, anyway.

 Al

 -- At 08:05 AM 06/11/2010 -0700, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: ---

OK, speaking of google.

Lately (last few days maybe?) I've noticed that the links at the top and
bottom of the page take a few seconds longer to load than the search box
does.

Is this something that's happening on my site or is it everywhere?

laters,
marlon

- Original Message -
From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google is out of control.


  I'm just gonna change mine to Google.NU.  Still the old Google.  I
  guess
  the
  island of Niue just isn't very important..
 
  :)
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of Al Stewart
  Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 12:07 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google is out of control.
 
  Really? .. On Google Canada, all I get is the Google Account sign in
  page.
 
 
 
  -- At 08:47 AM 06/10/2010 -0700, Jeromie Reeves wrote: ---
 
 You can click the change background link and change it back to white.
 
 The 'Future' I spoke of was a sunlit desert or was it a dessert? The
 mirage is kinda fuzzy after that kool-aid.
 
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Re: [WISPA] Google is out of control.

2010-06-11 Thread Bradley D. Thornton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: RIPEMD160

oic now.

I never go to http://google.com so I don't see that. I simply use the
google searchbox and then see the results page.

I also have installed a popup searchbox which I can invoke anytime by
typing, CTRL + CTRL.

That way, I don't even need to CTRL + T and then TAB to open a new
browser tab and place me in the google searchbox, one just pops up and I
enter my search terms and hit enter. A new tab then opens with the
search results.

One of the first things I disable in windows is the, fade effect. and
now it seems Google's doing that with their landing page, slowing things
up, or not showing the entire page until you move/hover the mouse over
some portion of that page.

The results pages, however, appear to be the same as before.

For home page settings in browsers I setup, I typically use:
about:blank or on windows machines, I might use: file:///c:/, which
loads quickly - especially when the browser is initially launched.

On 6/11/2010 11:32 AM, Jeromie Reeves wrote:
 Exactly.
 
 On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Josh Luthman
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
 If you load the page and do nothing it should never load.

 If you move the mouse pointer anywhere on the page within the frame it
 should show up.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
 continue that counts.”
 --- Winston Churchill



 On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net 
 wrote:
 Thats a new feature of Google. Fading in the links, when all you want
 is the search box.

 On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com 
 wrote:
 Hmmm.  Wonder if that's something MS is causing via IE or if it's a google
 thing?

 Very frustrating.  Makes my service look slow as hell when people use 
 google
 for their home page (and a LOT do).
 marlon

 - Original Message -
 From: Al Stewart stewa...@westcreston.ca
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 8:12 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google is out of control.


 It's been happening here for awhile. Actually if you drag your cursor
 around the screen where other links are supposed to be (without
 clicking) I think they show up quicker. My, sort of, observations, anyway.

 Al

 -- At 08:05 AM 06/11/2010 -0700, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: ---

 OK, speaking of google.

 Lately (last few days maybe?) I've noticed that the links at the top and
 bottom of the page take a few seconds longer to load than the search box
 does.

 Is this something that's happening on my site or is it everywhere?

 laters,
 marlon

 - Original Message -
 From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 9:12 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google is out of control.


 I'm just gonna change mine to Google.NU.  Still the old Google.  I
 guess
 the
 island of Niue just isn't very important..

 :)



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Al Stewart
 Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 12:07 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google is out of control.

 Really? .. On Google Canada, all I get is the Google Account sign in
 page.



 -- At 08:47 AM 06/10/2010 -0700, Jeromie Reeves wrote: ---

 You can click the change background link and change it back to white.

 The 'Future' I spoke of was a sunlit desert or was it a dessert? The
 mirage is kinda fuzzy after that kool-aid.

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Re: [WISPA] Burying Cable

2010-06-11 Thread Mike Hammett
As deep as the trencher goes is my motto.

-
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Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



On 6/11/2010 10:01 AM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
 All of our cable is now run in conduit.  I gave up on direct bury years ago.

 Eventually it fills with water, gets hit or has the moles eat it.

 I also normally bury 12 to 18 deep these days.  No more cut wires (so
 far!).
 marlon

 - Original Message -
 From: D. Ryan Spottrsp...@irongoat.net
 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 8:03 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Burying Cable



 This is easy...

 Explain to your customer that you do not trench and you have to run cable
 across the yard.

 Lay the cable out and tell them to bury it.

 I tell my customers to bury the cable buy placing a shovel in the sod and
 just cutting down far enough to get under the sod.

 Then stuff in the wire.

 This technique does not apply if the customer:
 Runs horses as lawn mowers.
 Uses one of those 'aerating' machines.
 discs the yard (yes, this has happened)
 Have 'digging' dogs... or Black labs (black labs LOVE outdoor cable)

 I allow for one splice for free for the above. Additional trips cost
 money.

 ryan


 On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 8:13 AM, Robert West
 robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:

  
 Other than renting or buying a small trenching machine (That I'm sure I'd
 use to slice every cable and natural gas/water/sewage line within 20 feet
 of
 me the first time I use it)  I'm interested in seeing if there is a tool
 that will let a person (Or corporation)  push low voltage cable down
 below
 the sod.  I have a design in mind but if there is already something out
 there I'd like to see it.  Yeah, to buy it or maybe rip them off and make
 my
 own from how theirs look...  It's a thing..  Anyhow, I normally take a
 shovel and make a slit in the sod and stuff the cable down in it but
 doing
 a
 100+ foot run can make your day less fun than it already was.



 Anyone using any human powered tool (Other than a shovel or paying some
 kid
 20 bucks to do it for you) to bury cable?



 Robert West

 Just Micro Digital Services Inc.

 740-335-7020



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Re: [WISPA] Google is out of control.

2010-06-11 Thread Robert West
That's too zen for me.  

If I load the page and do nothing it should never load...

Therefore I never loaded it in the first place.  So my result would
be nothing

Too deep for me, dude.

Bob-


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 12:56 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google is out of control.

If you load the page and do nothing it should never load.

If you move the mouse pointer anywhere on the page within the frame it
should show up.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
continue that counts.”
--- Winston Churchill



On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net
wrote:
 Thats a new feature of Google. Fading in the links, when all you want
 is the search box.

 On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com
wrote:
 Hmmm.  Wonder if that's something MS is causing via IE or if it's a
google
 thing?

 Very frustrating.  Makes my service look slow as hell when people use
google
 for their home page (and a LOT do).
 marlon

 - Original Message -
 From: Al Stewart stewa...@westcreston.ca
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 8:12 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google is out of control.


 It's been happening here for awhile. Actually if you drag your cursor
 around the screen where other links are supposed to be (without
 clicking) I think they show up quicker. My, sort of, observations,
anyway.

 Al

 -- At 08:05 AM 06/11/2010 -0700, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: ---

OK, speaking of google.

Lately (last few days maybe?) I've noticed that the links at the top and
bottom of the page take a few seconds longer to load than the search box
does.

Is this something that's happening on my site or is it everywhere?

laters,
marlon

- Original Message -
From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google is out of control.


  I'm just gonna change mine to Google.NU.  Still the old Google.  I
  guess
  the
  island of Niue just isn't very important..
 
  :)
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
  Behalf Of Al Stewart
  Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 12:07 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google is out of control.
 
  Really? .. On Google Canada, all I get is the Google Account sign in
  page.
 
 
 
  -- At 08:47 AM 06/10/2010 -0700, Jeromie Reeves wrote: ---
 
 You can click the change background link and change it back to
white.
 
 The 'Future' I spoke of was a sunlit desert or was it a dessert? The
 mirage is kinda fuzzy after that kool-aid.
 
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[WISPA] Miami TDWR Data needs an adjustment

2010-06-11 Thread Jack Unger




I want to thank Faisal Imtiaz of Snappy Internet and Telecom for
pointing out that the TDWR location data on our website at
http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=2384 is not correct. 

The "Miami" coordinates are actually for the Memphis TDWR. It looks
like the FAA "slipped" by one line by recopying the Memphis data onto
the Miami line in the data table that we were given. 

I'm already checking to obtain the official, correct Miami coordinates.
Until I receive the official data and we can get it onto our website,
the unofficial coordinates that Google Earth
shows for the Miami TDWR are N 25.762499, W -80.478884.


By the way, TDWRs are often not located right on the airport that they
protect. They are usually located a couple of miles away where they
have a clearer view of the horizon. 

If you see a suspected error in the TDWR data, please let me know
offlist and we'll work to publish the correction. 

Thanks, 
 jack
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[WISPA] Is this a record of some kind?

2010-06-11 Thread MDK
This evening I was at one of my access points... one that has several 
backhauls and various 2.4 and 5 ghz ap's at it.

After I was done with my few minutes of doing things, I wanted to make sure 
I had not physically disconnected or accidentally unhooked anything (messing 
with the batteries, checking water levels, etc).I pulled out a netbook. 
Acer Aspire One to be precise, running windows xp, using the normal wifi 
card it came with.   I fired it up (it is set to any so it simply 
associates to the access points that are open at home, work, etc), and after 
I was done, noted it said it was connected, at which point I opened google 
on the browser to confirm connectivity.   Google popped up, meaning things 
were connected, and then I decided to run a speed test.   I got about 30KB/s 
speed, which is like painfully slow.   I was standing outside, with the 
netbook sitting on the hood of my truck.

So, I decided to see what it was associated to, and it was another access 
point ...  11 MILES AWAY!   I confirmed it by the SSID and by the ip dhcp 
had assigned, as belonging to the ap 11 miles distant.

It has no external antenna, just the one the factory built into the netbook.

I have detected, using netstumbler and the internal antenna on my laptop 
(dell C610 and CM9 installed) access points over 24 miles away before, but 
this is the longest, by far, I have been able to get a real connection, dhcp 
assignment, and transfer data.




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