[WISPA] Fire

2010-07-19 Thread Forbes Mercy
Today an 8500 wildfire burned right through my busiest tower with 300 customers. Luckily I also lease space to the fire department so they made sure the state concentrated their helicopters on saving the tower, structure and power lines, thank goodness for their vested interest. This is the

Re: [WISPA] Fire

2010-07-19 Thread Dennis Burgess
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[WISPA] RB411 problem

2010-07-19 Thread richard sterne
Hello All, I have just pulled a RB411 out of store. It is a new one. But when I try to connect to it with Winbox I get this message Could not get routeros.dll: no reply This is a new message to me. Can anyone help? Richard

Re: [WISPA] RB411 problem

2010-07-19 Thread Jim Patient
Try updating winbox to 2.2.16, turn off any firewall and disable other interfaces except the one using to connect to the router. Jim On 7/19/2010 2:33 PM, richard sterne wrote: Hello All, I have just pulled a RB411 out of store. It is a new one. But when I try to connect to it with Winbox

Re: [WISPA] RB411 problem

2010-07-19 Thread Josh Luthman
Try again. When that happens to me it's always when my interface is looking for DHCP, the IP is 0.0.0.0, I attempt and just as the Winbox gets those files the IP is rebuilt on 169.254.x.x. If it keeps happening then make sure your PC works with mac-telnet (usually it's some MTU change). Also

Re: [WISPA] RB411 problem

2010-07-19 Thread Robert West
If all else fails, Telnet into it and upgrade RouterOS -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of richard sterne Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 3:33 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] RB411 problem Hello All, I have just

[WISPA] Pole-mounted base stations

2010-07-19 Thread Fred R. Goldstein
A design I'm working on is in a hilly wooded rural/resort area, not farmland. It will need a fair number (perhaps a few dozen) sites to cover the planned turf. Each node will need both backhaul (mesh, in the loose sense) and access antennas. The obvious place to put these is atop utility

Re: [WISPA] RB411 problem

2010-07-19 Thread Chuck Hogg
Turn off secure mode. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of richard sterne Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 3:33 PM To:

Re: [WISPA] Early bird dinner

2010-07-19 Thread Forbes Mercy
Jim, I'm already checked in so if you get enough interest I'd happily tag along. Forbes/ / On 7/19/2010 12:47 PM, Jim Patient wrote: I have a little damage recovery to do from storms this weekend (lost 2 APs) but should be done this evening. I don't see any activities on the schedule for

Re: [WISPA] Early bird dinner

2010-07-19 Thread Mike
Now if you made that offer tomorrow night . my son and I will arrive late afternoon/early evening. Friendly Regards, Mike Mike Gilchrist Disruptive Technologist Advanced Wireless Express P.O. Box 255 Toledo, IA 52342 Mike's

Re: [WISPA] Early bird dinner

2010-07-19 Thread Forbes Mercy
Mike, There is a meet and greet sponsored dinner tomorrow night starting at 6:00 PM. Forbes On 7/19/2010 2:50 PM, Mike wrote: Now if you made that offer tomorrow night ... my son and I will arrive late afternoon/early evening. Friendly Regards, Mike Mike Gilchrist Disruptive

Re: [WISPA] Pole-mounted base stations

2010-07-19 Thread Mike
Fred: I have some poles on my network. They are hard to climb and service would be the only caveats I'd share. Consider windmills. The ones they sell to keep ponds aerated are aesthetically pleasing and not too expensive. Friendly Regards, Mike Mike Gilchrist Disruptive Technologist

Re: [WISPA] Early bird dinner

2010-07-19 Thread Jim Patient
I'll pick you up about 6:00PM. I'll be in a green GMC Envoy. If anyone else shows up just let them know and if there are more than 3 more then give me a heads up so I can send another truck. Jim On 7/19/2010 4:45 PM, Forbes Mercy wrote: Jim, I'm already checked in so if you get enough

Re: [WISPA] Early bird dinner

2010-07-19 Thread Forbes Mercy
Got it, thanks. On 7/19/2010 2:48 PM, Jim Patient wrote: I'll pick you up about 6:00PM. I'll be in a green GMC Envoy. If anyone else shows up just let them know and if there are more than 3 more then give me a heads up so I can send another truck. Jim On 7/19/2010 4:45 PM, Forbes Mercy

Re: [WISPA] Pole-mounted base stations

2010-07-19 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 7/19/2010 05:53 PM, you wrote: Fred: I have some poles on my network. They are hard to climb and service would be the only caveats I'd share. Consider windmills. The ones they sell to keep ponds aerated are aesthetically pleasing and not too expensive. You're right; we'll probably need a

Re: [WISPA] Pole-mounted base stations

2010-07-19 Thread Mike
Something like these: http://www.pondaeration.com/ Thiesens here in Iowa sells them. They look like an old fashioned windmill and just pump water. There are some wind power kits that you mount on a monopole, but the blades are so long they would be in the Fresnel zone, and would be hard to

Re: [WISPA] Pole-mounted base stations

2010-07-19 Thread Phil Curnutt
http://gmesupply.com/roof-towers-c-9.html Just installed a 17.5 foot one. Very nice. Phil On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: Something like these: http://www.pondaeration.com/ Thiesens here in Iowa sells them. They look like an old fashioned windmill and just

Re: [WISPA] Pole-mounted base stations

2010-07-19 Thread Jeromie Reeves
How much for a 17.5 ? On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Phil Curnutt pcurn...@gmail.com wrote: http://gmesupply.com/roof-towers-c-9.html Just installed a 17.5 foot one.   Very nice. Phil On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: Something like these:  

Re: [WISPA] Pole-mounted base stations

2010-07-19 Thread Mike
Nice Phil. How much did you pay? _ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Phil Curnutt Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 5:32 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pole-mounted base stations http://gmesupply.com/roof-towers-c-9.html Just

Re: [WISPA] Pole-mounted base stations

2010-07-19 Thread Josh Luthman
Is there a mast in the center of them or do you immediately need a bucket truck? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: Nice Phil. How much did you pay?

Re: [WISPA] Pole-mounted base stations

2010-07-19 Thread Mike
No, but I have friends/customers with really big bucket trucks. They are tree guys. Also, the local electric utility usually sets my poles. I have customers there too. The company charged me $250.00 for a 65 footer a few months back. -Original Message- From:

Re: [WISPA] Pole-mounted base stations

2010-07-19 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I'd run 5 gig for the backhaul (ptmp) and 2.4 for distribution. Be VERY careful with distances and power levels you expect to be able to run though. The power lines will cause a LOT of multipath. I'd put in 2x the ap's you think you'll need and run EVERYTHING at VERY low power levels. OR

Re: [WISPA] Pole-mounted base stations

2010-07-19 Thread Phil Curnutt
I believe with lightning protection, mounting hardware and off set arms, around $1200. Phil On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.netwrote: How much for a 17.5 ? On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Phil Curnutt pcurn...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [WISPA] Pole-mounted base stations

2010-07-19 Thread Mike
And how do you anchor them? I'd like a 45' version. Mike _ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Phil Curnutt Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 6:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pole-mounted base stations I believe with

Re: [WISPA] Pole-mounted base stations

2010-07-19 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 7/19/2010 06:42 PM, Mike wrote wrote: No, but I have friends/customers with really big bucket trucks. They are tree guys. Also, the local electric utility usually sets my poles. I have customers there too. The company charged me $250.00 for a 65 footer a few months back. That's a really

Re: [WISPA] Pole-mounted base stations

2010-07-19 Thread Fred Goldstein
This is useful advice. Thanks a lot! We're no doubt going to have to build it up a few nodes at a time, starting at the injection point and building towards the most unserved area, a few hops away. I'm not sure if I want to touch 2.4, since it can be so noisy, or just use 900 and 5.8, but in

Re: [WISPA] Pole-mounted base stations

2010-07-19 Thread Blair Davis
wish I could find prices like that... A 50ft is $600 installed around here Mike wrote: No, but I have friends/customers with really big bucket trucks. They are tree guys. Also, the local electric utility usually sets my poles. I have customers there too. The company charged me

Re: [WISPA] Pole-mounted base stations

2010-07-19 Thread Josh Luthman
I would love to see that around here... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote: wish I could find prices like that... A 50ft is $600 installed around here

Re: [WISPA] Pole-mounted base stations

2010-07-19 Thread Phil Curnutt
The anchor kit is L-bolts into concrete filled holes. The 17.5' tower weights 60 pounds plus mast (20lbs for the alum) and antennas. Four three foot holes, six inches in diameter hold two 80 lb bags of concrete; that's 620 lbs holding it down. Of course three foot holes here in New Mexico are a

Re: [WISPA] Pole-mounted base stations

2010-07-19 Thread Jason Bailey
--- On Mon, 7/19/10, Phil Curnutt pcurn...@gmail.com wrote: From: Phil Curnutt pcurn...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pole-mounted base stations To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Monday, July 19, 2010, 11:19 PM The anchor kit is L-bolts into concrete filled holes.  The 17.5'

[WISPA] What if you can't get a T3?

2010-07-19 Thread Roger Howard
Quick alert to those who are not aware... back when I was running my business on T1 lines, I just assumed that when I was ready, I could order a T3 and upgrade my bandwidth. Not so. Just because you can get a T1 doesn't mean you can get a T3 without huge buildout costs. I was quoted $400,000

Re: [WISPA] Pole-mounted base stations

2010-07-19 Thread Blake Bowers
Is that for a set, or a pole and a set? Pole and a set, that is a steal! Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Mike m...@aweiowa.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Pole-mounted base stations

2010-07-19 Thread Blair Davis
I love poles! With a belt and spikes they are no trouble to climb... Blake Bowers wrote: Is that for a set, or a pole and a set? Pole and a set, that is a steal! Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. -