Re: [WISPA] Multiple sectors, one frequency?

2010-08-07 Thread Scott Lambert
On Wed, Aug 04, 2010 at 03:54:11PM -0400, Fred Goldstein wrote:
 At 8/4/2010 03:37 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote:
 It will not work.
 
 But you would be surprised how well these run at 5 or 10 MHz channels.
 
 With how much spacing between them?  If I could put them on adjacent 
 10 MHz center frequencies, that would solve a lot of problems, and 
 even 5 MHz channels with 10 MHz spacing (and thus a 5 MHz guard band) 
 would be reasonable.  But 20 MHz spacing is problematic.

Doesn't that depend on how clean your adjacent radio is?  You might
want to look at AirView under Tools on your second Rocket5M while
the first is in operation.  Then you should *know* where the signal
from the first sector drops to levels you are willing to deal with
for the second sector.

-- 
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Re: [WISPA] Orthogon Gemini PoE Injector

2010-08-07 Thread lakeland
Did u open it and check the internal fuse?  

Power supplies are the only problem we ever had with Orthogon radios. I have 
about 10 dead ones
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I know where I could borrow one.

But I'm 6+ hours away from you

Wish I were closer.

-Gary-

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  It's more than just a PoE.  All kinds of fancy electronics and junk.
 I wish they didn't get all fancy and just had a PoE.

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 On 8/6/2010 9:14 PM, Mike wrote:
 What makes it unique?  I have some Canopy ones.  Would they work?

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Does anyone have one I could beg, borrow or steal one from?  WAV has
 3, but they closed before I could get there.  If I hadn't lost my wallet
 today, I probably could have made it on time.  I'm in Northern IL.

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 On 8/4/2010 6:22 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
 I may have lost an Orthogon Gemini PoE Injector in yesterday's
 storms.  Are they the same as another PoE Injector or do I need to track
 down some old stock somewhere?


 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance

2010-08-07 Thread lakeland
You should be.  LOL!

NP.  Call me monday when it comes back. J/K

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[WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP

2010-08-07 Thread Mike Hammett
  Does anyone have certified gear other than Motorola and Redline?

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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP

2010-08-07 Thread Gino Villarini
Radwin 1000 and 2000 series

And IIRC Proxim QB series

Sent from my Motorola Startac... 


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  Does anyone have certified gear other than Motorola and Redline?
 
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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP

2010-08-07 Thread Gino Villarini
Exalt too

Sent from my Motorola Startac... 


On Aug 7, 2010, at 10:50 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:

 Radwin 1000 and 2000 series
 
 And IIRC Proxim QB series
 
 Sent from my Motorola Startac... 
 
 
 On Aug 7, 2010, at 10:15 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
 
 Does anyone have certified gear other than Motorola and Redline?
 
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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP

2010-08-07 Thread Gino Villarini
Trango T45 too

Sent from my Motorola Startac... 


On Aug 7, 2010, at 10:50 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:

 Radwin 1000 and 2000 series
 
 And IIRC Proxim QB series
 
 Sent from my Motorola Startac... 
 
 
 On Aug 7, 2010, at 10:15 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
 
 Does anyone have certified gear other than Motorola and Redline?
 
 -- 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP

2010-08-07 Thread lakeland
Exalt
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  Does anyone have certified gear other than Motorola and Redline?

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Re: [WISPA] UBNT 2.4 sector performance: WAS Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance

2010-08-07 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
I think you are still tired the scans you attached are from a 5Ghz 
Radio


:)

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On 8/7/2010 2:15 PM, RickG wrote:

Now that would be cause for PMD (postmortem depression)!

I do have another challenge. The new UBNT 2.4 sector giving me fits. 
Its the one I had to reverse the brackets to get enough uptilt in 
order to get good signals out. I had better performance with the old 
WRAP/StarOS AP. It aims right over the industrial park as well. Scans 
are attached.



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You should be.  LOL!

NP.  Call me monday when it comes back. J/K

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[WISPA] UBNT M2 AP's with Legacy CPE's - Tips and Tricks

2010-08-07 Thread Jenco Wireless
Hi List.  I am a silent lurker on the lists - I hardly ever post but I
learn so much from all of you.  A few weeks back someone tried to start a
thread about using M2 AP's with Tranzeo(??) CPE's.  There were no replies,
so for that gentleman, I would like to share my recent experiences and see
what all everyone else may have to offer.  My CPE-side Wi-Fi has always been
strictly the old Tranzeo TRCPE-200's and Senao CB3's (all Prism 2.5 chipset
stuff) - they just worked well for me.  Someone posted that he has not been
having any luck with this type of setup except for with UBNT's version 5.1.2
FW.  I agree.  Here are my other (non-scientific) findings

1)  I am using Bullet's for AP's (for now).  I always test their output
power with an old RF meter before implementing them.  There has been a lot
of variance on the output power (looks to happen in batches).  Many output
about 20 dBi.  Some output 24 dBi.  A few put out about 26 dBi.  If you can
test them, use the higher power ones for your AP's and long shot CPE's.  I
have had lower power units that can't get a (CPE) connection, then I send
out a higher powered unit and will get a signal in the -68 range.

2) Set the max TX speed way down on the M2 AP until you can swap out all of
the legacy CPE gear.

3) I have been manually setting the ACK distance from info from other posts
- not sure if it's necessary but since I am not running the latest FW I am
going to keep doing so until I hear differently.

That's all I can think of for now.  Thanks List !!


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Re: [WISPA] POE / Ethernet extenders

2010-08-07 Thread RickG
Very carefully! Actually, a huge tower I was on in Florida had 110 at
several locations including ours. It was so nice!

On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 5:28 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote:

 How do you run the 110 up the tower?
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 We would use fiber+120VAC

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Re: [WISPA] POE / Ethernet extenders

2010-08-07 Thread RickG
What type of fiber and media converters are you using?

On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Philip Dorr wirel...@judgementgaming.comwrote:

 We would use fiber+120VAC

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Re: [WISPA] POE / Ethernet extenders

2010-08-07 Thread Philip Dorr
The fiber on one tower is Chromatic technologies, Inc. Optical Fiber
Cable 700 series shielded cable, but usually it is just normal fiber
that is inside conduit.  The media converters are whatever we can buy
and still cheap (TP-Link,TRENDnet,etc). We put our own ends on the
cable to fit whatever modules we buy (used to be SC, but now mainly
ST).  We use a Lightcrimp Pluss kit to put the ends on the fiber.

On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 9:34 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
 What type of fiber and media converters are you using?

 On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Philip Dorr wirel...@judgementgaming.com
 wrote:

 We would use fiber+120VAC

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  than that on a tower and looking for solid recommendations.
 
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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP

2010-08-07 Thread Dennis Burgess
Mikrotik :) 

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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP

2010-08-07 Thread Gino Villarini
Certified?

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Mikrotik :) 

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Re: [WISPA] POE / Ethernet extenders

2010-08-07 Thread RickG
Nice! I ran fiber up the commercial tower I was on in Florida but it had 120
volts at the 330' mark where my equipment was. Too bad there isnt POE for
fiber. LOL, I guess you could run low voltage wire along the fiber and power
the converters  radios the old fashioned way?

On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 10:50 PM, Philip Dorr
wirel...@judgementgaming.comwrote:

 The fiber on one tower is Chromatic technologies, Inc. Optical Fiber
 Cable 700 series shielded cable, but usually it is just normal fiber
 that is inside conduit.  The media converters are whatever we can buy
 and still cheap (TP-Link,TRENDnet,etc). We put our own ends on the
 cable to fit whatever modules we buy (used to be SC, but now mainly
 ST).  We use a Lightcrimp Pluss kit to put the ends on the fiber.

 On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 9:34 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
  What type of fiber and media converters are you using?
 
  On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Philip Dorr 
 wirel...@judgementgaming.com
  wrote:
 
  We would use fiber+120VAC
 
  On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com
  wrote:
   Anyone used one on a tower to go beyond 100meters?  I need to get
 higher
   than that on a tower and looking for solid recommendations.
  
   Thanks!
  
  
  
  
  
  
 
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Re: [WISPA] computer won't connect to radio

2010-08-07 Thread Jeremie Chism
My laptop is doing the same thing. It was connected to the switch at
the tower that got the lightning. When I connect it to the new ap, I
can use it to configure it but when I connect it to the Internet
nothing. Strange.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 6, 2010, at 12:37 PM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote:

 Yeah, tried that too.  It was working, then lightning storm and no worky.
 Something got messed up in a very strange way.
 marlon

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 Is the network card set to auto neg? I have had issues with this. Set
 to a rate of 10 or 100 problem gone.

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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP

2010-08-07 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Tranzeo is certified.

Kurt Fankhauser
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Certified?

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Mikrotik :) 

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  Does anyone have certified gear other than Motorola and Redline?

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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP

2010-08-07 Thread Robert West
But they are awesomely reliable and require no maintenance.  Where is the
fun in all of that?

I desire a product that demands constant attention.

-Albert



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Mikrotik :) 

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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP

2010-08-07 Thread RickG
You might have something philosophical there Bob. Do we choose equipment
that is like us - lots of trouble and need plenty of attention? LOL!

On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:

 But they are awesomely reliable and require no maintenance.  Where is the
 fun in all of that?

 I desire a product that demands constant attention.

 -Albert



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 Mikrotik :)

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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP

2010-08-07 Thread Robert West
Certifiable.

I'm familiar with that.



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Certified?

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Mikrotik :) 

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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP

2010-08-07 Thread Robert West
That's me.

 

Philosophical.

 

Also very tired from  yet another 36 hour day.  

 

Thank goodness for illegal drugs.

 

Timothy O'Leary-

 

 

 

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You might have something philosophical there Bob. Do we choose equipment
that is like us - lots of trouble and need plenty of attention? LOL!

On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
wrote:

But they are awesomely reliable and require no maintenance.  Where is the
fun in all of that?

I desire a product that demands constant attention.

-Albert




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Mikrotik :)

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