Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols

2010-09-03 Thread RickG
One of the best network engineers I've ever met, who was a owner/operator of a fairly large, local ISP and currently owns/operates a fairly large datacenter, helped me with some initial issues I had in our expanding network. 3 years ago, he suggested I switch from zero routing protocol to RIP. I

Re: [WISPA] Netbook/Mini for the field?

2010-09-03 Thread RickG
I've got an Acer mini for the field. Best tool I ever got. 6 cell, battery literally last me all day if you use proper energy saving settings. It weighs hardly anything and I stick it in a backpack and hike it up a tower all the time. The only thing I wish it had was an anti-glare screen. Those

Re: [WISPA] Akamai / other caching servers

2010-09-03 Thread Dan Ferguson
We pay @ 4K/month for 3Mbps/512Kbps for a rural town, which is really 3Mbps on a 5x oversell. It's really ugly, so caching is a must. There is no hope for a better future either 8(. - Dan On 9/2/2010 8:16 PM, Scottie Arnett wrote:

Re: [WISPA] Netbook/Mini for the field?

2010-09-03 Thread RickG
It's all depends on what your needs are. Sure, compared to a higher grade CPU, the Atom is slower but it does job. You get used to the keyboard. I agree the screen can be annoying at times but weight overrides that for me. I'd never recommend it as a primary computer, just a field unit. -RickG On

Re: [WISPA] Akamai / other caching servers

2010-09-03 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
I sincerely believe that this is one area if the WISP's worked together and also used some outside the box thinking, can really benefit each other and their businesses. There is no clear cut solution that works for each and everyone. However there are a series of options to explore... Folks

Re: [WISPA] Akamai / other caching servers

2010-09-03 Thread Brad Belton
You guys have it all wrong IMO and should be counting your blessings that $1000 T1's still exist out there. Those are the areas a WISP can excel by offering a better valued service. Once all the $1000 T1's go away so will the little guys...YOU! Location - Location - Location Absolutely

Re: [WISPA] Akamai / other caching servers

2010-09-03 Thread Mike Hammett
Idaho isn't exactly a booming metropolis. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/2/2010 11:16 PM, Scottie Arnett wrote: Consider yourself lucky...in the REAL rural areas we pay over $1000/mth for 6 meg connections. Scott - Original Message

Re: [WISPA] Akamai / other caching servers

2010-09-03 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Mike, Keep beating the drum, maybe sooner than later it will sink in. FWIW, we have been doing this with a few of other Wireline ISP's as well I myself am sharing into circuits / IP transit contract held by other ISP's and also have others sharing into circuits that I have the contract

Re: [WISPA] Akamai / other caching servers

2010-09-03 Thread Ryan Goldberg
Faisal- I'm working to organize group-buys of transit out of my own internet backwater. I'm curious as to what (if any) legal entity was formed/used to engage in business with carriers. Any input is appreciated. Ryan -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Akamai / other caching servers

2010-09-03 Thread Ryan Goldberg
Er, small clarification. Transport. Transit is straightforward once out of here (130 miles to carrier hotel). Ryan -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Goldberg Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 6:57 AM To:

Re: [WISPA] Akamai / other caching servers

2010-09-03 Thread Mike Hammett
If Hunter Newbie doesn't botch the Allied Fiber project, that should open up a lot of opportunity for WISPs within earshot of their fiber. They're planning on having a ring circling the US. The next leg will be going from Ashburn down to Miami. I'm trying to get WISPs all along the routes

Re: [WISPA] Akamai / other caching servers

2010-09-03 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
There are many ways to do this, which one is best, really depends on the 'Trust Level' in the group. I have found that it is easier to develop trust on a one on one basis, ( I trust you , and you trust John, so by the virtue of my trust in you, I can trust John...etc).Sometimes doing things at

Re: [WISPA] Akamai / other caching servers

2010-09-03 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Cool, that is good info.. Here is what is going on in the ILEC land... They are getting ready to really turn up the heat on all of the CLEC's / WholeSale Customers / ISP's and ALL OTHER Smaller / Weaker Entities... Their method of doing this is by, removing backend resources which are

Re: [WISPA] Akamai / other caching servers

2010-09-03 Thread Jeremie Chism
Cogent has a colo facility in Jackson MS that is about 100 miles away from me on I20. How do I locate these alternate transit providers. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 3, 2010, at 7:16 AM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: There are many ways to do this, which one is best, really depends

Re: [WISPA] Akamai / other caching servers

2010-09-03 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
I would suggest some of the following as starting points... 1. See if your local power company has an affiliated fiber transport provider. 2. Check with local county / permitting department to see who if any took out right of way permits for Fiber installs. 3. Who is your local Cable Company

Re: [WISPA] Akamai / other caching servers

2010-09-03 Thread Jeremie Chism
Pricing here is what I think is competitive. 100meg for 2800.00 but I am looking for a second connection so it never hurts. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 3, 2010, at 7:55 AM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: I would suggest some of the following as starting points... 1. See if your

Re: [WISPA] Akamai / other caching servers

2010-09-03 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Sorry / forgot to say.. Total $ wise you are falling into the range where your savings are not necessarily going to be in form of a reduced monthly bill.. but more like you could get twice the amount of bandwidth for the same spending ... Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 9/3/2010

Re: [WISPA] Akamai / other caching servers

2010-09-03 Thread Jeremie Chism
More for the same is just like a savings. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 3, 2010, at 8:18 AM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: Sorry / forgot to say.. Total $ wise you are falling into the range where your savings are not necessarily going to be in form of a reduced monthly bill..

Re: [WISPA] Akamai / other caching servers

2010-09-03 Thread Justin Wilson
I assume you are meaning the Mississippi Telcom center at 111 East Capitol? (800) 354-7695 is the number I have for them. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog ­ xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw ­ Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting ­ Tower Climbing ­ Network Support

[WISPA] Motorola PTP 600 Link

2010-09-03 Thread Eric Merkel
We have a Motorola PTP600 link that is not getting the capacity we think it should and I am looking for some troubleshooting advice. Here are the details. Software Version: 58600-08-03 Distance: 18.5 miles RSSI: -57 dBm Vector Error: -14.9 dB Transmit Rate: 20M Receive Rate: 10M Transmit

Re: [WISPA] Motorola PTP 600 Link

2010-09-03 Thread Gino Villarini
Screen shot of Spectrum Analizer Page? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Eric Merkel Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 10:18 AM To:

Re: [WISPA] Motorola PTP 600 Link

2010-09-03 Thread Bob Moldashel
Eric, The BER issue is probably killing you. It could be the result of a cable issue, feed horn, interference, bad receiver, bad transmitter. If the radio is stuck at 16 QAM then you are probably getting the appropriate throughput for that modulation. You should be able to do higher

Re: [WISPA] Motorola PTP 600 Link

2010-09-03 Thread Marco Coelho
Usually, this is caused by interference. We generally use the High Performance dishes on these links with great results. What size antennas (ft, db) are you using on both ends? Screen shot of the Spec Analyzer would really be helpful. Marco On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Eric Merkel

Re: [WISPA] Motorola PTP 600 Link

2010-09-03 Thread Eric Merkel
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Eric, The BER issue is probably killing you.  It could be the result of a cable issue, feed horn, interference, bad receiver, bad transmitter.  If the radio is stuck at 16 QAM then you are probably getting the

Re: [WISPA] Motorola PTP 600 Link

2010-09-03 Thread Eric Merkel
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com wrote: Usually, this is caused by interference.  We generally use the High Performance dishes on these links with great results.  What size antennas (ft, db) are you using on both ends? Screen shot of the Spec Analyzer would

Re: [WISPA] Motorola PTP 600 Link

2010-09-03 Thread Gino Villarini
Your other end is getting hammered at 5772 with a -60 interference. I would rcommend changing to 15 mhz channels, we usually get more BW on smaller channels Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From:

Re: [WISPA] Motorola PTP 600 Link

2010-09-03 Thread Mike Hammett
Well, isn't the radio receiving on the clean channel? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/3/2010 9:38 AM, Gino Villarini wrote: Your other end is getting hammered at 5772 with a -60 interference. I would rcommend changing to 15 mhz channels, we

[WISPA] Pulled equipment

2010-09-03 Thread Jeremie Chism
We have pulled some equipment from our towers. All equipment is in good working order and less than 2 years old. If anyone is interested hit me offlist. 7 chasis mount 900mhz alvarion units (the 3 Meg version) 2 Alvarion chasis 2 alvarion gps sync units 3 alvarion chasis mount ac power

Re: [WISPA] Motorola PTP 600 Link

2010-09-03 Thread Gino Villarini
Peer receive is not good Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 10:40 AM To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] Motorola PTP 600 Link

2010-09-03 Thread Eric Merkel
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Your other end is getting hammered at 5772 with a -60 interference. I would rcommend changing to 15 mhz channels, we usually get more BW on smaller channels Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless

Re: [WISPA] Motorola PTP 600 Link

2010-09-03 Thread Gino Villarini
Both, you need to run the install wizard on both ends Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Eric Merkel Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010

[WISPA] I-80 Dark fiber Chicago - Denver

2010-09-03 Thread Mike Hammett
I'm talking to a WISP that's sort of in the middle of a dark fiber route from Denver to Chicago. mostly along I-80. Again, I don't have any financial interest in this, just helping fellow WISPs cut out the middle man and get cheaper Internet. -- - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Providers; OptiMan

2010-09-03 Thread Chris Gotstein
We have the same issue with ATT/Qwest. Getting a DS-3 right now using ATT as the loop, delivered via fiber. They put a Fujitsu box in our office, which i know they can just pop in an ethernet card and offer us a direct ethernet hookup, but they say it's not available in our area. I've talked to

Re: [WISPA] Motorola PTP 600 Link

2010-09-03 Thread Marco Coelho
run the install wizard on the far side first or you'll have to drive. mc On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Both, you need to run the install wizard on both ends Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143

Re: [WISPA] Motorola PTP 600 Link

2010-09-03 Thread Eric Merkel
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Both, you need to run the install wizard on both ends Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 Going to 15Mhz channels killed the bandwidth. I suppose I didn't wait long

Re: [WISPA] Motorola PTP 600 Link

2010-09-03 Thread Gino Villarini
You have to disable the Install wizard first(it only do QPSK), then give it 5 min for the SA to work its magic Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On

Re: [WISPA] Pulled equipment

2010-09-03 Thread Rick Harnish
Jeremie, Go ahead and post them on the Classified section of the webpage. http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=2297 Rick -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremie Chism Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 10:48 AM To: WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Pulled equipment

2010-09-03 Thread Jeremie Chism
Forgot about that. Sorry. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 3, 2010, at 10:25 AM, Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org wrote: Jeremie, Go ahead and post them on the Classified section of the webpage. http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=2297 Rick -Original Message- From:

[WISPA] anyone using proxim tsunami mp-8100

2010-09-03 Thread Marco Coelho
Anyone using proxim tsunami mp-8100 Who has the fastest APs now. we're getting ready for a major expansion and want to reevaluate all options -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036

Re: [WISPA] anyone using proxim tsunami mp-8100

2010-09-03 Thread Mike Hammett
It looked interesting until it was more expensive than Canopy and didn't appear to be anything more than Ubiquiti. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/3/2010 10:54 AM, Marco Coelho wrote: Anyone using proxim tsunami mp-8100 Who has the fastest

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality statement from Genakowski

2010-09-03 Thread MDK
I find it disturbing that almost no public discussion of this is going on. Is this a matter where we think that the imposition will have little or no effect on us, or do we expect to simply ignore it, or is everyone just confident it won't happen? There's a lot going on, on many fronts,

Re: [WISPA] Pulled equipment

2010-09-03 Thread Rick Harnish
No problem, it is just more static than email. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremie Chism Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 11:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pulled equipment Forgot about

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality statement from Genakowski

2010-09-03 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 9/3/2010 12:06 PM, MDK wrote: I find it disturbing that almost no public discussion of this is going on. Is this a matter where we think that the imposition will have little or no effect on us, or do we expect to simply ignore it, or is everyone just confident it won't happen? ISPs

Re: [WISPA] Motorola PTP 600 Link

2010-09-03 Thread Eric Merkel
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: You have to disable the Install wizard first(it only do QPSK), then give it 5 min for the SA to work its magic Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 I ended up switching

[WISPA] Port foward to external IP

2010-09-03 Thread Cameron Kilton
We have an office router which has a fairly locked down network. We have recently setup good apps on a staff domain and I want to setup port forward for POP3 to forward to the the pop.gmail.com IP. MY router has a real routed IP and the WAN interface how can I route port 110 through that to

[WISPA] Trango Link 45 link for sale

2010-09-03 Thread Cameron Kilton
I have (2) Working pull Trango P5055M-EXT-US units to sell. I would like to get $600 or best offer for the link, I'll take care of shipping expenses. -- Thanks, Cameron Kilton Project Manager Midcoast Internet Solutions http://www.midcoast.com c...@midcoast.com (207) 594-8277 x 108

Re: [WISPA] Port foward to external IP

2010-09-03 Thread Josh Luthman
Is the traffic coming from inside your LAN? Keep in mind you need to use 995 for Gmail's POP (SSL). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Cameron Kilton c...@midcoast.com wrote: We have an office router

Re: [WISPA] Port foward to external IP

2010-09-03 Thread Cameron Kilton
Yes traffic is coming from inside lan. Thanks, Cameron Kilton Project Manager Midcoast Internet Solutions http://www.midcoast.com c...@midcoast.com (207) 594-8277 x 108 On 9/3/2010 4:30 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Is the traffic coming from inside your LAN? Keep in mind you need to use 995 for

Re: [WISPA] Port foward to external IP

2010-09-03 Thread David E. Smith
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 15:17, Cameron Kilton c...@midcoast.com wrote: We have an office router which has a fairly locked down network. We have recently setup good apps on a staff domain and I want to setup port forward for POP3 to forward to the the pop.gmail.com IP. MY router has a real

Re: [WISPA] Port foward to external IP

2010-09-03 Thread Josh Luthman
Keep in mind this is only an IP, and pop.gmail.com resolves to many for a reason and I have *NOT* personally tested this. #where ether2 is your lan interface /ip firewa nat add chain=dstnat in-interface=ether2 dst-port=110 protocol=tcp action=dst-nat to-addresses=74.125.95.109 to-ports=995 Josh

Re: [WISPA] Motorola PTP 600 Link

2010-09-03 Thread Eric Merkel
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org wrote: Eric, Did you block out channel 5762 and try to foce the Peer to 5752 where you have less interference across the 30 MHz channel? Rick Yes, I tried blocking out various channels. Basically what the SA picked is the

[WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-03 Thread Data Technology
I think that several of you are using Ubiquiti AirMax Rocket now instead of Mikrotik. I would like to know how they compare: 1. As a point to point link. 2. As an access point. Right now I only use Mikrotik for links and AP's and I use Ubiquiti for cpe. I am ready to install

Re: [WISPA] Port foward to external IP

2010-09-03 Thread Cameron Kilton
Strike 1 I'm getting connection refused. I'm assuming I should set my incoming mail server to my office router's outgoing IP address...correct? Thanks, Cameron Kilton Project Manager Midcoast Internet Solutions http://www.midcoast.com c...@midcoast.com (207) 594-8277 x 108 On 9/3/2010

Re: [WISPA] Motorola PTP 600 Link

2010-09-03 Thread Gino Villarini
Block 5772 on the peer so that it would move its center freq from 5762 to 5752. The SA choosing algorithm its not always perfect... Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Motorola PTP 600 Link

2010-09-03 Thread Eric Merkel
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Block 5772 on the peer so that it would move its center freq from 5762 to 5752.  The SA choosing algorithm its not always perfect... Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143

Re: [WISPA] Port foward to external IP

2010-09-03 Thread Butch Evans
On Fri, 2010-09-03 at 16:17 -0400, Cameron Kilton wrote: MY router has a real routed IP and the WAN interface how can I route port 110 through that to the external IP of 74.125.93.109 which is gmails pop server Just need to know what kind of router you have. --

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-03 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
We have not used Mikrotik for wireless, but are using UBNT for Radios Mikrotik for routing ... While your concerns are valid, we have not seen anything that would cause us to rethink our setup. Use good quality shielded outdoor rated cable, and Grounded Power supplies, with or without surge

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-03 Thread Randy Cosby
LaRoy, I'm waiting to see how Nstreme (TDMA) v2 compares on the Mikrotik. So far it looks very promising, and could give UBNT a run for the money. UBNT has the price advantage, but not as much configuration-ability nor can you choose to use cheap or high quality enclosures. Randy On

Re: [WISPA] Port foward to external IP

2010-09-03 Thread Cameron Kilton
PC with MT installed on it...we have a few of those and dozes on of RB433AH units and some other older stuff here and there. Thanks, Cameron Kilton Project Manager Midcoast Internet Solutions http://www.midcoast.com c...@midcoast.com (207) 594-8277 x 108 On 9/3/2010 5:06 PM, Butch Evans wrote:

Re: [WISPA] Motorola PTP 600 Link

2010-09-03 Thread Gino Villarini
On both ends, Under diagnostics check for any v/h signal difference Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Eric Merkel Sent: Friday,

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-03 Thread Justin Mann
We have recently begun deploying the Rockets as backhauls to replace our older and less reliable StarOS links. Without exception, they have impressed us. It has only been a few months, and they have yet to experience winter, so the real test won't be for a while. From a pure reliability and

Re: [WISPA] Port foward to external IP

2010-09-03 Thread Cameron Kilton
well, what do I need to do to make this work with comprising my integrity. Thanks, Cameron Kilton Project Manager Midcoast Internet Solutions http://www.midcoast.com c...@midcoast.com (207) 594-8277 x 108 On 9/3/2010 5:06 PM, Jonathan Schmidt wrote: I believe you can't get there by IP address

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-03 Thread Butch Evans
On Fri, 2010-09-03 at 15:50 -0500, Data Technology wrote: I would like to know how they compare: 1. As a point to point link. 2. As an access point. This is one of the topics we will cover in my Training Before the MUM at the end of this month. What are you guys seeing in the real

Re: [WISPA] Port foward to external IP

2010-09-03 Thread Butch Evans
On Fri, 2010-09-03 at 17:04 -0400, Cameron Kilton wrote: PC with MT installed on it...we have a few of those and dozes on of RB433AH units and some other older stuff here and there. Are you wanting to redirect all pop3 (TCP/110) to google's pop server (pop over ssl on port TCP/995)? Maybe

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-03 Thread Butch Evans
On Fri, 2010-09-03 at 15:08 -0600, Randy Cosby wrote: I'm waiting to see how Nstreme (TDMA) v2 compares on the Mikrotik. Another training topic. :-) In fact, if anyone who attends the MUM wants to do a direct comparison test, I'm game. --

Re: [WISPA] Port foward to external IP

2010-09-03 Thread Cameron Kilton
I want to use the MT router outgoing IP as the incoming mail server and only have it work/forward to g-mail when that IP is being used. exmaple: my incoming mail server will be 69.69.69.69 and have it magically get to a specified IP address. Thanks, Cameron Kilton Project Manager Midcoast

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-03 Thread Forbes Mercy
I'll weigh in here, I have almost an equal mix of Ubiquiti and Mikrotik I'll detail each plus put a summary analogy for these and Motorola at the end of my email. One of the things that jumps out on me is how raw Mikrotik is, if you want to be able to write every filter, detail every part of

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-03 Thread Randy Cosby
We're running a few hundred customers on Mikrotik PTMP and use it for most of our backhauls. I really like the programability of the tiks, and we use the API's extensively. I just don't have problems and they outperform my expectations, but it does take a bit of a learning curve. Really

Re: [WISPA] Akamai / other caching servers

2010-09-03 Thread Scottie Arnett
No it's not...I didn't mean it that way. At least there are some mountains or something to wirelessly backhaul to another place. Where I am at it's just hills and hills and then some more hills. The hills usually run in an average of height of 100' - 300' of each other. Once you find a way to

Re: [WISPA] Akamai / other caching servers

2010-09-03 Thread Chuck Profito
ROUND UP + Air Plane = thousands in savings and pre made towers ;-) From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scottie Arnett Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 3:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Akamai / other caching servers No it's

[WISPA] VoIP Services with XO, L3 or Global Crossing

2010-09-03 Thread Scott Carullo
If any of you are dealing direct with any of the 3 mentioned carriers for VoIP services? Scott Carullo Technical Operations 877-804-3001 x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] VoIP Services with XO, L3 or Global Crossing

2010-09-03 Thread Josh Luthman
We use the two latter provides. On Sep 3, 2010 8:21 PM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: If any of you are dealing direct with any of the 3 mentioned carriers for VoIP services? Scott Carullo Technical Operations 877-804-3001 x102

Re: [WISPA] VoIP Services with XO, L3 or Global Crossing

2010-09-03 Thread Jon Auer
Direct? What kind of commit did they require? On Sep 3, 2010 8:21 PM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: If any of you ar... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] VoIP Services with XO, L3 or Global Crossing

2010-09-03 Thread Josh Luthman
Wholesale account requires a LOT of usage. On Sep 3, 2010 8:32 PM, Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net wrote: Direct? What kind of commit did they require? On Sep 3, 2010 8:21 PM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: If any of you ar...

Re: [WISPA] VoIP Services with XO, L3 or Global Crossing

2010-09-03 Thread Charles Wu (CTI)
We deal direct with L3 and XO - what do you want to know? -Charles From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 7:20 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] VoIP Services with XO, L3 or Global Crossing If

Re: [WISPA] VoIP Services with XO, L3 or Global Crossing

2010-09-03 Thread Charles Wu (CTI)
I think L3 standard is $25k / month or something… From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jon Auer Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 7:32 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP Services with XO, L3 or Global Crossing Direct? What kind of

Re: [WISPA] VoIP Services with XO, L3 or Global Crossing

2010-09-03 Thread Scott Carullo
I'm considering going direct if it makes sense. I know some guys in the middle don't make a lot in the markup and they provide more obvious value added services in providing voip termination than other types of services. Just looking at options. I have always rolled out our own voip using

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-03 Thread Steve Barnes
What I wish is a standardized Linux TDMA mechanisim. Not airmax nor nstreame 2, a TDMA that you can use with a cross-vendor mix. Mikrotik is a (to me the only) router OS. Ubiquity is my major Wireless vendor, from CPE's to the XR2 that go in each Mikrotik AP. I really like Tranzeos as well

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-03 Thread Jeromie Reeves
We are already there. I am firmly locked into Ubnt airmax. I tried MT's NStream, it did not work well for me. I am seeing enough 5ghz noise that I need airmax (or something like it). I was this close to going back to canopy only because I knew that while slow, it would work. If moto had wised up

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-03 Thread Robert West
UBNT + GPS?!!! Stop it! You're making me think that there may be a brighter future after all! Shame on you for causing me to dream yet again! Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Friday,

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-03 Thread RickG
I have nothing bad to say about Mikrotik as my RB1000 firewall runs without complaint. I also have a tower in the forest running an RB433AH with an XR9 radio that I never hear from. LOL, that reminds me of an old saying, only I'll amend it some: If a radio in the forest fails, does anyone hear it?

Re: [WISPA] Netbook/Mini for the field?

2010-09-03 Thread Robert West
Works best in the winter. I can stick it under my coat to see the screen! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 2:29 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netbook/Mini for the field? I've got