Re: [WISPA] Grain leg pipe
Well heck, if you want the ultimate in strength, use solid steel round bar then. I've got some tower sections like that but man are they heavy! Bars are for transfer of materials too - when they're serving that is! Saved that one for you Bob =P On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Pipe is for the transfer of material, Tube is for structure. *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Marlon K. Schafer *Sent:* Thursday, September 09, 2010 12:59 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Grain leg pipe Just remember that pipe sizes are done with inside dimensions not outside. marlon - Original Message - *From:* Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Sent:* Wednesday, September 08, 2010 12:49 PM *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Grain leg pipe You could go 2” with some pipe to pipe mounts. This would protect you from lightning a little better and give you flexibility. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog – xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw – Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting – Tower Climbing – Network Support -- *From: *Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net *Reply-To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Date: *Wed, 08 Sep 2010 14:19:33 -0500 *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject: *[WISPA] Grain leg pipe While our grain leg is having some maintenance done on it, I thought I'd have them weld pipes into the platform instead of my usual U-bolt or similar attachment method. I figured it'd be more secure than attaching with hardware. What is a good universal pipe to have installed? I don't remember dimensions, but I recently tried to attach some UBNT PowerBridges at a site and the pipe was too big. Other times I've found the pipe too small for the antenna's mount. What did Goldilocks find for the pipe that was just right? -- - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Grain leg pipe
I ended up getting 1.25 galvanized pipe. Weighed significantly more than larger rigid conduit. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/10/2010 1:15 AM, RickG wrote: Well heck, if you want the ultimate in strength, use solid steel round bar then. I've got some tower sections like that but man are they heavy! Bars are for transfer of materials too - when they're serving that is! Saved that one for you Bob =P On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com mailto:robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Pipe is for the transfer of material, Tube is for structure. *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Marlon K. Schafer *Sent:* Thursday, September 09, 2010 12:59 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Grain leg pipe Just remember that pipe sizes are done with inside dimensions not outside. marlon - Original Message - *From:* Justin Wilson mailto:li...@mtin.net *To:* WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Sent:* Wednesday, September 08, 2010 12:49 PM *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Grain leg pipe You could go 2” with some pipe to pipe mounts. This would protect you from lightning a little better and give you flexibility. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net mailto:j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog – xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw – Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting – Tower Climbing – Network Support *From: *Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net http://wispawirel...@ics-il.net *Reply-To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org http://wireless@wispa.org *Date: *Wed, 08 Sep 2010 14:19:33 -0500 *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org http://wireless@wispa.org *Subject: *[WISPA] Grain leg pipe While our grain leg is having some maintenance done on it, I thought I'd have them weld pipes into the platform instead of my usual U-bolt or similar attachment method. I figured it'd be more secure than attaching with hardware. What is a good universal pipe to have installed? I don't remember dimensions, but I recently tried to attach some UBNT PowerBridges at a site and the pipe was too big. Other times I've found the pipe too small for the antenna's mount. What did Goldilocks find for the pipe that was just right? -- - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org http://wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
[WISPA] Cogent in St. Louis
Anyone peer with Cogent in St Louis? Goods? Bads? Have heard mostly positive but real-world feedback would be great. Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cogent in St. Louis
I believe WISPerISP (or something like that) has a Cogent pipe (in addition to others) out of St. Louis. Might want to hit them up to ask. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/10/2010 9:07 AM, Jason Hensley wrote: Anyone peer with Cogent in St Louis? Goods? Bads? Have heard mostly positive but real-world feedback would be great. Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] direct bury pole?
Other than a wooden utility pole, does anyone have a source for a direct bury steel pole, such as those you would see used for street lights, etc? I have a need for a client to be up ~30' for a single 1' dish. That will be the only thing ever on the pole, so it won't be loaded. It can't be guyed, and they would prefer not Rohn or other lattice structure for aesthetics. We have been asked to use something like a streetlight pole. We have never used such a pole. Has anyone used one and do you have a source for the pole? Kevin First Step Internet, LLC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] direct bury pole?
I believe streetlights are mounted onto a concrete base, not directly buried. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/10/2010 9:37 AM, Kevin Owen wrote: Other than a wooden utility pole, does anyone have a source for a direct bury steel pole, such as those you would see used for street lights, etc? I have a need for a client to be up ~30' for a single 1' dish. That will be the only thing ever on the pole, so it won't be loaded. It can't be guyed, and they would prefer not Rohn or other lattice structure for aesthetics. We have been asked to use something like a streetlight pole. We have never used such a pole. Has anyone used one and do you have a source for the pole? Kevin First Step Internet, LLC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] direct bury pole?
Right, my example was only to envision the type or size of pole being used, as say opposed to a direct bury mono-pole that is familiar to many of us and way too large for this application. Kevin From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 7:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] direct bury pole? I believe streetlights are mounted onto a concrete base, not directly buried. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/10/2010 9:37 AM, Kevin Owen wrote: Other than a wooden utility pole, does anyone have a source for a direct bury steel pole, such as those you would see used for street lights, etc? I have a need for a client to be up ~30' for a single 1' dish. That will be the only thing ever on the pole, so it won't be loaded. It can't be guyed, and they would prefer not Rohn or other lattice structure for aesthetics. We have been asked to use something like a streetlight pole. We have never used such a pole. Has anyone used one and do you have a source for the pole? Kevin First Step Internet, LLC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cogent in St. Louis
Nothing wrong with cogent .. --- Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of Learn RouterOS -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 9:16 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cogent in St. Louis I believe WISPerISP (or something like that) has a Cogent pipe (in addition to others) out of St. Louis. Might want to hit them up to ask. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/10/2010 9:07 AM, Jason Hensley wrote: Anyone peer with Cogent in St Louis? Goods? Bads? Have heard mostly positive but real-world feedback would be great. Thanks! -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] direct bury pole?
Like this: http://www.specialliteproducts.com/commerciallighting/streetlightpoles.aspx But you really, really probably want something like this: http://www.precastconcepts.com/products_light_pole_bases.php#Light Pole Bases Then bolt on the light post. Add an accent light for looks! ryan On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 7:37 AM, Kevin Owen ko...@fsr.com wrote: Other than a wooden utility pole, does anyone have a source for a direct bury steel pole, such as those you would see used for street lights, etc? I have a need for a client to be up ~30’ for a single 1’ dish. That will be the only thing ever on the pole, so it won’t be loaded. It can’t be guyed, and they would prefer not Rohn or other lattice structure for aesthetics. We have been asked to use something like a streetlight pole. We have never used such a pole. Has anyone used one and do you have a source for the pole? Kevin First Step Internet, LLC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cogent in St. Louis
Agree for the most part, but as of recently we've been dealing with the latency through their network over in the New England region...frustratingly, Cogent is not owning up to it at the moment, but I'm guessing with their low Mbps per pricing and the economy being in the dumps, they've probably have done well in selling onto their network which has now become oversubscribe...well at least in the Boston-NYC corridor as other parts of their network seem fine. Bret On 09/10/2010 11:00 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote: Nothing wrong with cogent .. --- Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of Learn RouterOS -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 9:16 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cogent in St. Louis I believe WISPerISP (or something like that) has a Cogent pipe (in addition to others) out of St. Louis. Might want to hit them up to ask. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/10/2010 9:07 AM, Jason Hensley wrote: Anyone peer with Cogent in St Louis? Goods? Bads? Have heard mostly positive but real-world feedback would be great. Thanks! -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cogent in St. Louis
I can't speak to Cogent in Saint Louis specifically, but be aware that Cogent has a bit of a history with peering disputes, and occasionally cuts off (or is cut off from) largish chunks of the Internet. I don't know if I'd want to single-home to Cogent, but as part of a robust multi-homed solution, sure. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cogent in St. Louis
I have a 100/100Mbps connection at 900 Walnut with layer 2 Charter fiber for loop to my house ( a little over 30 miles to downtown). So far it has been flawless from the Cogent side. I've had a couple issues with attenuators on the fiber and one of Charters Cisco switches failed in the last year but not Cogents problem. When Cogent looses 1 ping to my router they email me and if is down more than a couple minutes they are calling me on my cell to find out whats up. Charter has also been great on this link. They aren't as responsive to issues on my back up modems at the towers though. When I've had issues, they have had a tech at both ends of the link within and hour. [ad...@powerouter_732] tool traceroute 4.2.2.2 use-dns=yes ADDRESSSTATUS 1 gi1-5.ccr01.stl03.atlas.cogentco.com 2ms 2ms 2ms 2 te0-2-0-5.ccr22.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com 11ms 9ms 9ms 3 te0-1-0-7.ccr22.ord03.atlas.cogentco.com 9ms 9ms 9ms 4 te-9-1.car4.chicago1.level3.net 13ms 11ms 9ms 5 ae-11-55.car1.chicago1.level3.net 9ms 9ms 10ms 6 vnsc-bak.sys.gtei.net 10ms 9ms 9ms Jim Patient Cell: 314-565-6863 Desk: 636-692-4200 YIM: jeffcosoho www.wlan1.com www.linktechs.net www.wifimidwest.com On 9/10/2010 9:07 AM, Jason Hensley wrote: Anyone peer with Cogent in St Louis? Goods? Bads? Have heard mostly positive but real-world feedback would be great. Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cogent in St. Louis
i know you're in the St. Louis area, so maybe you have experience with them there. All carriers have their good and bad POPs\towns. Cogent may or may not peer with many other carriers in St. Louis, forcing off-net traffic through Chicago or Dallas, adding a several ms and points of failure. They may have a severely underpowered set of routers that just can't keep up. Since St. Louis is on one of their 2 major E-W routes, maybe their long haul capacity through St. Louis is bumping it's limits. I have a pretty good idea who they're using for their Chicago - Omaha, personally, I don't know why they don't light all the way to Denver, since it's available. I'm not saying that any of these things ARE happening, just examples of something that may affect any given carrier at any given POP. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/10/2010 10:00 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote: Nothing wrong with cogent .. --- Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of Learn RouterOS -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 9:16 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cogent in St. Louis I believe WISPerISP (or something like that) has a Cogent pipe (in addition to others) out of St. Louis. Might want to hit them up to ask. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/10/2010 9:07 AM, Jason Hensley wrote: Anyone peer with Cogent in St Louis? Goods? Bads? Have heard mostly positive but real-world feedback would be great. Thanks! -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cogent in St. Louis
That is certainly always a concern, but their number of peers is increasing tremendously. http://www.fixedorbit.com/stats.htm They're the 9th largest in terms of IP space and 2nd largest in terms of peered networks. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/10/2010 10:17 AM, David E. Smith wrote: I can't speak to Cogent in Saint Louis specifically, but be aware that Cogent has a bit of a history with peering disputes, and occasionally cuts off (or is cut off from) largish chunks of the Internet. I don't know if I'd want to single-home to Cogent, but as part of a robust multi-homed solution, sure. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] direct bury pole?
I like wooden power poles a lot, their exactly my bucket truck height and are under $1000 buried, they don't need to be guy wired and they mix in with surroundings. I go to Electrical companies to have them put in. If you have a relationship with the power company they can help too. Forbes On 9/10/2010 7:37 AM, Kevin Owen wrote: Other than a wooden utility pole, does anyone have a source for a direct bury steel pole, such as those you would see used for street lights, etc? I have a need for a client to be up ~30' for a single 1' dish. That will be the only thing ever on the pole, so it won't be loaded. It can't be guyed, and they would prefer not Rohn or other lattice structure for aesthetics. We have been asked to use something like a streetlight pole. We have never used such a pole. Has anyone used one and do you have a source for the pole? Kevin First Step Internet, LLC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cogent in St. Louis
Can't speak for Cogent in St. Louis, But we have it here in Florida and it works well. The 2 peer setup is a bit weird at first, but it works. The support is good, You get a engineer on first call. Not like TW Telecom where you call open a ticket and get a call back, The person that answers the phone can make changes and such. Nick Olsen Network Operations (877) 804-3001 x106 From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 11:47 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cogent in St. Louis That is certainly always a concern, but their number of peers is increasing tremendously. http://www.fixedorbit.com/stats.htm They're the 9th largest in terms of IP space and 2nd largest in terms of peered networks. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/10/2010 10:17 AM, David E. Smith wrote: I can't speak to Cogent in Saint Louis specifically, but be aware that Cogent has a bit of a history with peering disputes, and occasionally cuts off (or is cut off from) largish chunks of the Internet. I don't know if I'd want to single-home to Cogent, but as part of a robust multi-homed solution, sure. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cogent in St. Louis
We have had very good luck with Cogents reliability. Now as for peers thats a different story. I will tell you that if Level 3 has two routes to you, one across Cogent and one across a dialup link (or anything else) they will send all traffic across the other link. You can see this on their looking glass with their local preference settings. Cogent burned a lot of people in the past with peering arrangements and it still shows. Jory - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett To: WISPA General List Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cogent in St. Louis That is certainly always a concern, but their number of peers is increasing tremendously. http://www.fixedorbit.com/stats.htm They're the 9th largest in terms of IP space and 2nd largest in terms of peered networks. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/10/2010 10:17 AM, David E. Smith wrote: I can't speak to Cogent in Saint Louis specifically, but be aware that Cogent has a bit of a history with peering disputes, and occasionally cuts off (or is cut off from) largish chunks of the Internet. I don't know if I'd want to single-home to Cogent, but as part of a robust multi-homed solution, sure. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: Looking for Layer 3 Switch with BGP?
On Wed, Sep 08, 2010 at 07:40:07PM -0400, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: Welcome to the Mid-range of traffic handling... There is nothing on the market place that is affordable that will do what you are looking for. Best thing you can do is deploy two devices.. a Gig Switch, pick your favorite vendor... and a Core Router for BGP Yep. I'd do either some sort of combination of multihop bgp or VLANs to the customers needing bgp routing. VLANs really are quite simple at least on procurve switches and mikrotiks and junipers. VLANs reduce broadcast traffic on bridged networks so long as the vlans don't extend to places they are not needed. We have every sited routed with mikrotiks using private ASNs and BGP, but we also have procurve switches on most sites' backhauls, so we do extend a vlan across multiple sites if we want for a particular purpose, and everything else at the sites is routed. We have stayed away from using switches for L3 because of routing limitations and for CALEA; I think it's easier to capture traffic on a router than off a switch port, because if your switch has traffic duplication you'd still need a router to route the traffic back to the collection point. For Core Router in the Cisco world you are looking at something with a G1 or G2 engine ... (7206vxr or small 7301) range $5k to 10K on the used market place. In Juniper Land... M10i or an M20 (if you like redundancy...) cost on the secondary markets about $8 to $10k We're using a Juniper J2350 with upgraded non-juniper RAM for 2 full BGP and presently 150+mbps of Internet. Comes with 4 1gbps ethernet ports. It was in the $2500 range iirc. There are switching features in it, but I haven't tried them. I bought it to do BGP. We can do a real nice MT for 1/3 that, but Mikrotik's BGP is not as well documented as Cisco/Juniper and we were willing to pay for software that was a little more mature/tested. We use MT BGP internally all the time, but that's a much smaller BGP network than the Internet of course. The j2350 will probably go to 300mbps perfectly fine and we'll upgrade again. There are a couple J series models that go higher performance than this and will be a lot cheaper than a M series chassis router. If you want up to date software and initial tech support, buying new is the way to go unfortunately. Unlike Cisco, you do get a reasonable period of tech support and software updates without buying a separate service contract. The BGP on this has been flawless. Juniper has a tool on their site to convert cisco configs to configs for their OS which was quite accurate. We upgraded from a Cisco 7507/rsp4 router which was running out of ram and steam and sucking too much power. You could use a Mikrotik Power Router.. cost $ 2500 to $5000 Only the Cisco 7301 and Mikrotik are small and consume little power... Everything else is big and consumes power. Most common, cost efficient network design would be to use GigE Switches in a ring or your favorite network topology, with one or two Routers located at DataCenters or NOC... If you find some other solution, that can do what you are looking for, please share it with us, cause we have been looking too... what I am sharing above with you is what we have found so far. Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 9/8/2010 7:16 PM, Jon Auer wrote: Needing full BGP routes takes you out of the realm of cheap Layer 3 switches... You need to worry about TCAM (hardware route memory) in addition to RAM on Layer 3 switches and apart from decked out Cisco 6500s or greater you aren't going to find that. The Juniper MX80 should work. It is 2U and can have 48 GigE ports. You should be able to get it for $30-50K. Alternatively you could try a multihop BGP setup like Cogent has been known to do. Setup one BGP session between the customer and your Layer 3 switch at the tower. This carriers a route for your border router/route reflector to the customer and vice versa. Then setup a BGP session between the customer and your border router/route reflector. Or you could drag MPLS into it but 2 simple BGP sessions seems like the most straightforward solution to me. On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Matt Jenkinsm...@smarterbroadband.net wrote: I am trying to find a Layer 3 switch that has 24 or 48 1000 base-T ports with enough RAM to handle Full BGP Internet Routes. Anyone have any suggestions? For those who wonder why I am upgrading all of my backhauls to support ~300mbps. In addition I need to be able to offer BGP connections to customers from this ring of backhauls. - Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
Re: [WISPA] testing... What happened?
Yes, Jim, put away the brainrot :) It seems Godaddy wasn't renewing a little used domain of mine and, well, the rest is obvious. :) ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ -- From: Jim Patient sa...@jeffcosoho.com Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 10:04 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] testing... What happened? No! Jim Patient Cell: 314-565-6863 Desk: 636-692-4200 YIM: jeffcosoho www.wlan1.com www.linktechs.net www.wifimidwest.com On 9/9/2010 10:21 PM, Robert West wrote: Put away the alcohol. It's all good -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 7:59 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] testing... What happened? There was a post 1.5 hours before this one. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/9/2010 1:28 AM, MDK wrote: No wispa traffic in days. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cogent in St. Louis
Cogent is the Family Dollar/Dollar General/$1 store of bandwidth providers. It¹s cheap, they have a decent network and have quite a number of servers on Cogent bandwidth. This means a good deal of web traffic is headed toward cogent without much return. The Big players tolerate this because the last time they tried de-peering it took out half the internet (not really but caused some waves). I remember this because I had 400 web-sites on some cogent servers. All of a sudden a good majority of my customers at the time could not get to their own web-sites. It¹s a pretty decent business plan actually. Offer cheap bandwidth for servers, get a bunch of sites hosted on that bandwidth, and the Internet finds you. From that point on the Tier 1 and others are almost forced to peer with you. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting Tower Climbing Network Support From: Nick Olsen n...@brevardwireless.com Reply-To: n...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 12:01:48 -0400 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cogent in St. Louis Can't speak for Cogent in St. Louis, But we have it here in Florida and it works well. The 2 peer setup is a bit weird at first, but it works. The support is good, You get a engineer on first call. Not like TW Telecom where you call open a ticket and get a call back, The person that answers the phone can make changes and such. Nick Olsen Network Operations (877) 804-3001 x106 From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 11:47 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cogent in St. Louis That is certainly always a concern, but their number of peers is increasing tremendously. http://www.fixedorbit.com/stats.htm They're the 9th largest in terms of IP space and 2nd largest in terms of peered networks. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/10/2010 10:17 AM, David E. Smith wrote: I can't speak to Cogent in Saint Louis specifically, but be aware that Cogent has a bit of a history with peering disputes, and occasionally cuts off (or is cut off from) largish chunks of the Internet. I don't know if I'd want to single-home to Cogent, but as part of a robust multi-homed solution, sure. David Smith MVN.net -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] 11GHz Licensed dummy
I'm looking for some info from anyone out there that has used 11GHz Direct Mount radios before. We're looking at deploying a number of these units with CPR 90G inputs. This means the radio mounts directly to the 6ft or 8ft dish. At the lower freq. of 5 GHz, we use a polyphaser lightning protector between the antenna and the radio. While this adds a little cost, I've never had a radio fail. My question is how do you protect these radios? Thanks Marco -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Slightly OT - Mapping
You'd be surprised what Google Earth can do. There are lots of websites and utilities for converting user information into kmz files for googleearth. Anything that can save to an image file (Jpeg, tif, png, etc..) or a PDF can be printed out with someone's large printer, so the software doesn't have to support a particular printing system. On Wed, Sep 08, 2010 at 05:36:43PM -0400, Bob Moldashel wrote: Can anyone recommend a program or a resource that I can get high resolution maps from. I have multiple project going where I need to map out say a county or a town and have streets as well as specific information user added to the map. Then I need to output it to a plotter or Kinkos so we can make working material out of them. Does not need to be color but color would be nice. I have to be able to print 24 x 36 Tnx -B- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cogent in St. Louis
I believe i saw an article a few months ago that said Cogent was now settlement free. Not sure how accurate that was, though. The thing is, though, Cogent isn't even the cheapest you can get in major metros anymore. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/10/2010 11:56 AM, Justin Wilson wrote: Cogent is the Family Dollar/Dollar General/$1 store of bandwidth providers. It's cheap, they have a decent network and have quite a number of servers on Cogent bandwidth. This means a good deal of web traffic is headed toward cogent without much return. The Big players tolerate this because the last time they tried de-peering it took out half the internet (not really but caused some waves). I remember this because I had 400 web-sites on some cogent servers. All of a sudden a good majority of my customers at the time could not get to their own web-sites. It's a pretty decent business plan actually. Offer cheap bandwidth for servers, get a bunch of sites hosted on that bandwidth, and the Internet finds you. From that point on the Tier 1 and others are almost forced to peer with you. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog -- xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw -- Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting -- Tower Climbing -- Network Support *From: *Nick Olsen n...@brevardwireless.com *Reply-To: *n...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Date: *Fri, 10 Sep 2010 12:01:48 -0400 *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Cogent in St. Louis Can't speak for Cogent in St. Louis, But we have it here in Florida and it works well. The 2 peer setup is a bit weird at first, but it works. The support is good, You get a engineer on first call. Not like TW Telecom where you call open a ticket and get a call back, The person that answers the phone can make changes and such. Nick Olsen Network Operations (877) 804-3001 x106 *From*: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net *Sent*: Friday, September 10, 2010 11:47 AM *To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Cogent in St. Louis That is certainly always a concern, but their number of peers is increasing tremendously. http://www.fixedorbit.com/stats.htm They're the 9th largest in terms of IP space and 2nd largest in terms of peered networks. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/10/2010 10:17 AM, David E. Smith wrote: I can't speak to Cogent in Saint Louis specifically, but be aware that Cogent has a bit of a history with peering disputes, and occasionally cuts off (or is cut off from) largish chunks of the Internet. I don't know if I'd want to single-home to Cogent, but as part of a robust multi-homed solution, sure. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Slightly OT - Mapping
We did that same thing with radio mobile a little photoshoping, and google API http://htswireless.com/coveragearea.php free. I still have to get the site laid out more properly, oh the todo list Chris - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Slightly OT - Mapping Brian did Earth and Maps from our site, inxwireless.com/coverage On Sep 8, 2010 5:37 PM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: If you are looking for a real GIS platform, I'd highly recommend Manifold. It is very inexpensive for what it does, and can handle formats from just about every other GIS platform. If you don't want the learning curve, I'd talk with Brian Webster over at wirelessmapping.com. He can probably generate the files you need in no time and the time savings would be well worth whatever it costs you. Regards, Cameron On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Can anyone recommend a... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] testing... What happened?
Forget GoDaddy. Domain.com is much better. On Sep 10, 2010, at 12:07 PM, MDK wrote: Yes, Jim, put away the brainrot :) It seems Godaddy wasn't renewing a little used domain of mine and, well, the rest is obvious. :) ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ -- From: Jim Patient sa...@jeffcosoho.com Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 10:04 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] testing... What happened? No! Jim Patient Cell: 314-565-6863 Desk: 636-692-4200 YIM: jeffcosoho www.wlan1.com www.linktechs.net www.wifimidwest.com On 9/9/2010 10:21 PM, Robert West wrote: Put away the alcohol. It's all good -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 7:59 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] testing... What happened? There was a post 1.5 hours before this one. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/9/2010 1:28 AM, MDK wrote: No wispa traffic in days. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cogent in St. Louis
So who is the cheapest these days? Cogent is $600/mth for 100/100. Jim Patient Cell: 314-565-6863 Desk: 636-692-4200 YIM: jeffcosoho www.wlan1.com www.linktechs.net www.wifimidwest.com On 9/10/2010 12:25 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: I believe i saw an article a few months ago that said Cogent was now settlement free. Not sure how accurate that was, though. The thing is, though, Cogent isn't even the cheapest you can get in major metros anymore. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/10/2010 11:56 AM, Justin Wilson wrote: Cogent is the Family Dollar/Dollar General/$1 store of bandwidth providers. It's cheap, they have a decent network and have quite a number of servers on Cogent bandwidth. This means a good deal of web traffic is headed toward cogent without much return. The Big players tolerate this because the last time they tried de-peering it took out half the internet (not really but caused some waves). I remember this because I had 400 web-sites on some cogent servers. All of a sudden a good majority of my customers at the time could not get to their own web-sites. It's a pretty decent business plan actually. Offer cheap bandwidth for servers, get a bunch of sites hosted on that bandwidth, and the Internet finds you. From that point on the Tier 1 and others are almost forced to peer with you. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog -- xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw -- Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting -- Tower Climbing -- Network Support *From: *Nick Olsen n...@brevardwireless.com *Reply-To: *n...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Date: *Fri, 10 Sep 2010 12:01:48 -0400 *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Cogent in St. Louis Can't speak for Cogent in St. Louis, But we have it here in Florida and it works well. The 2 peer setup is a bit weird at first, but it works. The support is good, You get a engineer on first call. Not like TW Telecom where you call open a ticket and get a call back, The person that answers the phone can make changes and such. Nick Olsen Network Operations (877) 804-3001 x106 *From*: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net *Sent*: Friday, September 10, 2010 11:47 AM *To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Cogent in St. Louis That is certainly always a concern, but their number of peers is increasing tremendously. http://www.fixedorbit.com/stats.htm They're the 9th largest in terms of IP space and 2nd largest in terms of peered networks. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/10/2010 10:17 AM, David E. Smith wrote: I can't speak to Cogent in Saint Louis specifically, but be aware that Cogent has a bit of a history with peering disputes, and occasionally cuts off (or is cut off from) largish chunks of the Internet. I don't know if I'd want to single-home to Cogent, but as part of a robust multi-homed solution, sure. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join
Re: [WISPA] Cogent in St. Louis
I'm not sure the cheapest, but Hurricane Electric is the leading, lower cost provider. Cogent is now $4, IIRC. HE can be had for under $1 on GigE. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/10/2010 12:54 PM, Jim Patient wrote: So who is the cheapest these days? Cogent is $600/mth for 100/100. Jim Patient Cell: 314-565-6863 Desk: 636-692-4200 YIM: jeffcosoho www.wlan1.com www.linktechs.net www.wifimidwest.com On 9/10/2010 12:25 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: I believe i saw an article a few months ago that said Cogent was now settlement free. Not sure how accurate that was, though. The thing is, though, Cogent isn't even the cheapest you can get in major metros anymore. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/10/2010 11:56 AM, Justin Wilson wrote: Cogent is the Family Dollar/Dollar General/$1 store of bandwidth providers. It's cheap, they have a decent network and have quite a number of servers on Cogent bandwidth. This means a good deal of web traffic is headed toward cogent without much return. The Big players tolerate this because the last time they tried de-peering it took out half the internet (not really but caused some waves). I remember this because I had 400 web-sites on some cogent servers. All of a sudden a good majority of my customers at the time could not get to their own web-sites. It's a pretty decent business plan actually. Offer cheap bandwidth for servers, get a bunch of sites hosted on that bandwidth, and the Internet finds you. From that point on the Tier 1 and others are almost forced to peer with you. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog -- xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw -- Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting -- Tower Climbing -- Network Support *From: *Nick Olsen n...@brevardwireless.com *Reply-To: *n...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Date: *Fri, 10 Sep 2010 12:01:48 -0400 *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Cogent in St. Louis Can't speak for Cogent in St. Louis, But we have it here in Florida and it works well. The 2 peer setup is a bit weird at first, but it works. The support is good, You get a engineer on first call. Not like TW Telecom where you call open a ticket and get a call back, The person that answers the phone can make changes and such. Nick Olsen Network Operations (877) 804-3001 x106 *From*: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net *Sent*: Friday, September 10, 2010 11:47 AM *To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Cogent in St. Louis That is certainly always a concern, but their number of peers is increasing tremendously. http://www.fixedorbit.com/stats.htm They're the 9th largest in terms of IP space and 2nd largest in terms of peered networks. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/10/2010 10:17 AM, David E. Smith wrote: I can't speak to Cogent in Saint Louis specifically, but be aware that Cogent has a bit of a history with peering disputes, and occasionally cuts off (or is cut off from) largish chunks of the Internet. I don't know if I'd want to single-home to Cogent, but as part of a robust multi-homed solution, sure. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA
[WISPA] Charter Rep?
Anyone have a charter rep that they like? I am looking to get some BW from them. Jeromie WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Charter Rep?
We sell business connections and fiber links for Charter. Problem is, I'm the only one I can think of that likes me. My wife used to like me but that was years ago;-) Give me a call or hit me off-list and we can go over options. Jim Patient Cell: 314-565-6863 Desk: 636-692-4200 YIM: jeffcosoho www.wlan1.com www.linktechs.net www.wifimidwest.com On 9/10/2010 1:23 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: Anyone have a charter rep that they like? I am looking to get some BW from them. Jeromie WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Charter Rep?
Thanks to all who have replied on and off list. I think I have enough to get something done. On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: Anyone have a charter rep that they like? I am looking to get some BW from them. Jeromie WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] WaveRider LMS 3000
Does anyone use this equipment or have experience in using this equipment? With Canopy/UBNT/MikroTik we have pretty much set the standard for QoS reasons that the signal should not be worse than -75. I have seen another WISP using this older WaveRider gear, and most of his clients are at -80 to -95. Are signals using this equipment that usable at those rates? Can anyone shed some light on this really old gear? Any information is appreciated... Regards, Chuck WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WaveRider LMS 3000
I had some links like that when we used waverider but it was on sectors with little interference. They will probably work if you have a low noise floor. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 10, 2010, at 5:54 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: Does anyone use this equipment or have experience in using this equipment? With Canopy/UBNT/MikroTik we have pretty much set the standard for QoS reasons that the signal should not be worse than -75. I have seen another WISP using this older WaveRider gear, and most of his clients are at -80 to -95. Are signals using this equipment that usable at those rates? Can anyone shed some light on this really old gear? Any information is appreciated... Regards, Chuck WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 11GHz Licensed dummy
There is no coax and the antenna is directly grounded to the antenna - pretend it is a one-piece unit instead of two pieces. Also - the actual transmitted (rf element) is inside the radio. The rest is just a wave guide channeling the RF out and amplifying it. Nothing there but grounded metal parts and air. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 877-804-3001 x102 From: Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 1:05 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] 11GHz Licensed dummy I'm looking for some info from anyone out there that has used 11GHz Direct Mount radios before. We're looking at deploying a number of these units with CPR 90G inputs. This means the radio mounts directly to the 6ft or 8ft dish. At the lower freq. of 5 GHz, we use a polyphaser lightning protector between the antenna and the radio. While this adds a little cost, I've never had a radio fail. My question is how do you protect these radios? Thanks Marco -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] direct bury pole?
What about a flag pole? http://www.flagpolewarehouse.com/flagpoles/commercial/index.shtml On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Kevin Owen ko...@fsr.com wrote: Other than a wooden utility pole, does anyone have a source for a direct bury steel pole, such as those you would see used for street lights, etc? I have a need for a client to be up ~30’ for a single 1’ dish. That will be the only thing ever on the pole, so it won’t be loaded. It can’t be guyed, and they would prefer not Rohn or other lattice structure for aesthetics. We have been asked to use something like a streetlight pole. We have never used such a pole. Has anyone used one and do you have a source for the pole? Kevin First Step Internet, LLC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cogent in St. Louis
Funny thing happened after I upgraded from TW copper to fiber - I get an engineer when I call support now. On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Nick Olsen n...@brevardwireless.comwrote: Can't speak for Cogent in St. Louis, But we have it here in Florida and it works well. The 2 peer setup is a bit weird at first, but it works. The support is good, You get a engineer on first call. Not like TW Telecom where you call open a ticket and get a call back, The person that answers the phone can make changes and such. Nick Olsen Network Operations (877) 804-3001 x106 -- *From*: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net *Sent*: Friday, September 10, 2010 11:47 AM *To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Cogent in St. Louis That is certainly always a concern, but their number of peers is increasing tremendously. http://www.fixedorbit.com/stats.htm They're the 9th largest in terms of IP space and 2nd largest in terms of peered networks. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutionshttp://www.ics-il.com On 9/10/2010 10:17 AM, David E. Smith wrote: I can't speak to Cogent in Saint Louis specifically, but be aware that Cogent has a bit of a history with peering disputes, and occasionally cuts off (or is cut off from) largish chunks of the Internet. I don't know if I'd want to single-home to Cogent, but as part of a robust multi-homed solution, sure. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M
Here is my interface stats: XM.v5.2# ifconfig ath0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:18:1B:97 UP BROADCAST RUNNING PROMISC ALLMULTI MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:1704984 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:2180287 errors:0 dropped:813 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:200 RX bytes:430972687 (411.0 MiB) TX bytes:2053965333 (1.9 GiB) br0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:18:1B:97 inet addr:10.10.100.29 Bcast:10.10.100.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING ALLMULTI MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:187903 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:5865 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:18303057 (17.4 MiB) TX bytes:566985 (553.6 KiB) eth0_real Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:19:1B:97 UP BROADCAST RUNNING PROMISC MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:2171167 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:1704486 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:500 RX bytes:2053358505 (1.9 GiB) TX bytes:431157904 (411.1 MiB) eth1_real Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 02:15:6D:19:1B:97 UP BROADCAST PROMISC MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:500 RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B) loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:1 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:1 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:89 (89.0 B) TX bytes:89 (89.0 B) wifi0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:18:1B:97 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:11 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:511 RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B) Interrupt:48 Memory:b000-b001 XM.v5.2# On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: I'm just happy that I'm not the only one with this problem. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: Justin the power supply is outputting 15.3 Vdc as far as the other MT on the tower see. *Steve Barnes* General Manager PCS-WIN http://www.pcswin.com/ RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service http://www.rcwifi.com/ *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Justin Wilson *Sent:* Wednesday, September 08, 2010 11:30 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M In our case we had a switch we put “inline” and that made no difference. I figured it might have been an issue with the 493G board. We used to see issues with Tranzeo and 450Gs so I figured it might be similar. Putting the switch in did not help. Cable run is only about 20 feet. It is being powered by a 12 Volt power supply instead of 24. Other devices on the tower are able to get good speeds to the Mikortik. Some theories at the moment: 1.When the radio transmits it draws enough power away from the ethernet chipset to cause issues. 2.The unit really does need 24volt (or higher than 12 at least) 3.The Unit itself has an issue with the ethernet port. 4.Mikrotik board has an issue. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog – xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw – Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting – Tower Climbing – Network Support -- *From: *Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com *Reply-To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Date: *Wed, 8 Sep 2010 10:11:48 -0400 *To: *fai...@snappydsl.net, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M I'm running AirOS V5.2.1-RC2 (which is the latest as of yesterday) It happened with the factory firmware and the RC1 as well. The issue also occurs with my laptop running btest or any type of ping flood. I have 6 cat5 runs up one of the towers, Motorola works fine and I have switched cables, different manufacturer as well. Same issue. When I use the air test from the UBNT device it works fine. When I plug a laptop in on each side, I get the same results. No bandwidth shaping. Have tried multiple different devices on each side, the only thing that works is an expensive Managed Dell Switch. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: Is it possible to change and test to see if it the Radios's or the MK493ah that is root cause of this issue. Also, do
Re: [WISPA] Cogent in St. Louis
TW Telecom or TW Cable? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/10/2010 9:09 PM, RickG wrote: Funny thing happened after I upgraded from TW copper to fiber - I get an engineer when I call support now. On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Nick Olsen n...@brevardwireless.com mailto:n...@brevardwireless.com wrote: Can't speak for Cogent in St. Louis, But we have it here in Florida and it works well. The 2 peer setup is a bit weird at first, but it works. The support is good, You get a engineer on first call. Not like TW Telecom where you call open a ticket and get a call back, The person that answers the phone can make changes and such. Nick Olsen Network Operations (877) 804-3001 x106 *From*: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net *Sent*: Friday, September 10, 2010 11:47 AM *To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Cogent in St. Louis That is certainly always a concern, but their number of peers is increasing tremendously. http://www.fixedorbit.com/stats.htm They're the 9th largest in terms of IP space and 2nd largest in terms of peered networks. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/10/2010 10:17 AM, David E. Smith wrote: I can't speak to Cogent in Saint Louis specifically, but be aware that Cogent has a bit of a history with peering disputes, and occasionally cuts off (or is cut off from) largish chunks of the Internet. I don't know if I'd want to single-home to Cogent, but as part of a robust multi-homed solution, sure. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 11GHz Licensed dummy
Waveguide that amplifies? Where can I get some? I can finally build my perpetual motion machine! :-) Greg On Sep 10, 2010, at 8:55 PM, Scott Carullo wrote: There is no coax and the antenna is directly grounded to the antenna - pretend it is a one-piece unit instead of two pieces. Also - the actual transmitted (rf element) is inside the radio. The rest is just a wave guide channeling the RF out and amplifying it. Nothing there but grounded metal parts and air. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 877-804-3001 x102 From: Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 1:05 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] 11GHz Licensed dummy I'm looking for some info from anyone out there that has used 11GHz Direct Mount radios before. We're looking at deploying a number of these units with CPR 90G inputs. This means the radio mounts directly to the 6ft or 8ft dish. At the lower freq. of 5 GHz, we use a polyphaser lightning protector between the antenna and the radio. While this adds a little cost, I've never had a radio fail. My question is how do you protect these radios? Thanks Marco -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cogent in St. Louis
TW Cable Business Class On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 10:32 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote: TW Telecom or TW Cable? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutionshttp://www.ics-il.com On 9/10/2010 9:09 PM, RickG wrote: Funny thing happened after I upgraded from TW copper to fiber - I get an engineer when I call support now. On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Nick Olsen n...@brevardwireless.comwrote: Can't speak for Cogent in St. Louis, But we have it here in Florida and it works well. The 2 peer setup is a bit weird at first, but it works. The support is good, You get a engineer on first call. Not like TW Telecom where you call open a ticket and get a call back, The person that answers the phone can make changes and such. Nick Olsen Network Operations (877) 804-3001 x106 -- *From*: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net *Sent*: Friday, September 10, 2010 11:47 AM *To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Cogent in St. Louis That is certainly always a concern, but their number of peers is increasing tremendously. http://www.fixedorbit.com/stats.htm They're the 9th largest in terms of IP space and 2nd largest in terms of peered networks. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutionshttp://www.ics-il.com On 9/10/2010 10:17 AM, David E. Smith wrote: I can't speak to Cogent in Saint Louis specifically, but be aware that Cogent has a bit of a history with peering disputes, and occasionally cuts off (or is cut off from) largish chunks of the Internet. I don't know if I'd want to single-home to Cogent, but as part of a robust multi-homed solution, sure. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cogent in St. Louis
Ah, TW Telecom is a completely different company. No more integrated than you and I. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/10/2010 10:06 PM, RickG wrote: TW Cable Business Class On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 10:32 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: TW Telecom or TW Cable? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/10/2010 9:09 PM, RickG wrote: Funny thing happened after I upgraded from TW copper to fiber - I get an engineer when I call support now. On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Nick Olsen n...@brevardwireless.com mailto:n...@brevardwireless.com wrote: Can't speak for Cogent in St. Louis, But we have it here in Florida and it works well. The 2 peer setup is a bit weird at first, but it works. The support is good, You get a engineer on first call. Not like TW Telecom where you call open a ticket and get a call back, The person that answers the phone can make changes and such. Nick Olsen Network Operations (877) 804-3001 x106 *From*: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net *Sent*: Friday, September 10, 2010 11:47 AM *To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Cogent in St. Louis That is certainly always a concern, but their number of peers is increasing tremendously. http://www.fixedorbit.com/stats.htm They're the 9th largest in terms of IP space and 2nd largest in terms of peered networks. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/10/2010 10:17 AM, David E. Smith wrote: I can't speak to Cogent in Saint Louis specifically, but be aware that Cogent has a bit of a history with peering disputes, and occasionally cuts off (or is cut off from) largish chunks of the Internet. I don't know if I'd want to single-home to Cogent, but as part of a robust multi-homed solution, sure. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
