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I was looking at the available channels in my area and realized that there are
not many that can be used easily. There are a lot of operators that are
competing here that will possibly want to use them also. My question is what
will be the registration process to acquire this channel space?
Does wispa have a wiki open to the public? If not I would be happy to host one.
I want to write a whitespaces faq and then we can avoid these threads over and
over. :)
Who wants to work on a faq with me?
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from the desk of Charles wyble
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Charles,
WISPA has a wiki open to members only. We felt we needed a secure place for
secure content which is privy to members only. It would seem to me that
having a TV Whitespaces FAQ open to the public would make it easy for new
competition to enter the marketplace. Are you sure you want to
You make an excellent point. I will join wispa in the next few weeks and
contribute to the private wiki.
Its certainly a well spent investment. Now that I'm in the process of Fielding
the initial access points for my wisp its time for me to join up. :)
Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org wrote:
I agree completely with Rick. WISPA Members deserve special access to TV
White
Space information. WISPA Members have paid their dues (literally) to enable
WISPA to lobby (advocate with the FCC) to help create the best TV White Space
rules possible given the huge opposition by the TV
OK so in my area there is a three channel space of 26,27 and, 28
available. I guess my goal is to camp out on 27, knowing this how to I
stake the claim and start working toward deployment? I know it's
oversimplified but that's where I have to start.
Forbes
On 9/25/2010 8:37 PM, Mike
Charles,
That is an excellent choice IMHO. I'm sure that the FCC Committee and
others will help you create a great TV Whitespaces FAQ. I'm excited to have
you join the WISPA team. I have seen your posts on this listserv for awhile
and have always been impressed with both your commitment of
I understand that while this may appear to be on topic that it is a
highly politically motivated and biased article. I would prefer we
leave things like this on the c...@wispa.org list to avoid the
inevitable political flame wars that will come from people trying to
debate their political points.
As a member, where do I get a username/password for the members only wiki?
- Original Message -
From: Jory Privett j...@wccs.net
To: wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 8:40 AM
Subject: [WISPA] TV White Space
I was looking at the available channels in my area and
At 9/27/2010 10:54 AM, Forbes Mercy wrote:
OK so in my area there is a three channel space of 26,27 and, 28
available. I guess my goal is to camp out on 27, knowing this how to I
stake the claim and start working toward deployment? I know it's
oversimplified but that's where I have to start.
Email bill...@wispa.org, I believe.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
On 9/27/2010 10:19 AM, Jory Privett wrote:
As a member, where do I get a username/password for the members only wiki?
- Original Message -
From: Jory Privettj...@wccs.net
Jory,
I will email you offlist.
Thanks,
Rick
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jory Privett
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 11:19 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV White Space
As a member, where
Excellent! Thank you!
Scriv
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Charles n wyble
char...@knownelement.com wrote:
You make an excellent point. I will join wispa in the next few weeks and
contribute to the private wiki.
Its certainly a well spent investment. Now that I'm in the process of
There is no staking your claim. I pushed for that as part of a
spectrum homesteading initiative which WISPA will not support...sadly.
We probably had a good shot at it through all the lobbying efforts we
did but the FCC Committee had people against the idea that building
broadband service should
On 09/27/2010 08:40 AM, John Scrivner wrote:
There is no staking your claim. I pushed for that as part of a
spectrum homesteading initiative which WISPA will not support...sadly.
Well isn't this what whitespaces is supposed to prevent? Large amounts
of exclusive spectrum already exists and
On 09/25/2010 11:18 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote:
Anyone have this working? If so, is it stable or glitchy?
I'll be rolling this out very soon. I have a Ubiquity ns2, a linksys
wrt54gl and two custom access points (based on nanostation). I plan to
mesh them all and host a few different
John,
I personally support your work on Spectrum Homesteading and we hope to
develop it further. Unfortunately, the FCC committee was split and thus, it
was the advice of the FCC Chairman that we could not support it at this time
until the proposal matures further or the education of the FCC
Thanks.
I am most interested in the multiSSID/VLAN on the NS2
- Jerry
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Charles N Wyble
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 8:53 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity with OpenWRT and multi VLAN/SSID
Nothing will happen until the database is created. At that point, some
software tool will search it for you, and once some equipment is built, it
should auto-register for you, as well as control the channels.
For the moment, there's nothing any of us can do. You can't stake out a
claim, as
What do you envision as a fair homesteading rule(s)? How do those
rules deal with squatters, or people who do 'just enough' to keep
others out? I am not completely against 'homesteading' but i am
against 'squatting' and 'marginal acceptableness'. Do you have a
document or such of your ideas on
I have not had time to read up on TVWS much yet, but just had a
thought over the weekend. Wouldn't it be easy to adapt DOCSIS to TVWS?
Randy
On 9/25/2010 1:53 PM, Jeremie Chism wrote:
Looks like the cable companies are very worried about this situation.
Why not just do multi-ssid on the nano as is?
On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Jerry Richardson
jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote:
Anyone have this working? If so, is it stable or glitchy?
Thanks
WISPA
There are already RF/DOCSIS hybrid systems. DOCSIS is a very expensive idea
to go with. The head end is the primary cost, but so its the client RF
system. The system I looked at was 75K not counting the cable head or modems
(this was also about 10 years ago, I have not heard that it was any
multi-ssid on a nano ?
On Sep 27, 2010, at 12:23 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote:
Why not just do multi-ssid on the nano as is?
On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Jerry Richardson
jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote:
Anyone have this working? If so, is it stable or glitchy?
Thanks
Yes. It supports it, you just need to use the command line to set it up.
wlanconfig ath1 wlanddev wifi0 create wlanmode ap
ifconfig ath1 up
iwconfig ath1 essid your.ssid
add encryption and ect with iwconifg
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com wrote:
multi-ssid on
Absolutely Awesome !
On Sep 27, 2010, at 1:11 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote:
Yes. It supports it, you just need to use the command line to set it up.
wlanconfig ath1 wlanddev wifi0 create wlanmode ap
ifconfig ath1 up
iwconfig ath1 essid your.ssid
add encryption and ect with iwconifg
On Mon,
So much easier on Mikrotik. I hope Ubiquiti and Mikrotik combine
forces for a product that can defy the laws of physics and reality.
.
Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Glenn Kelley
On 09/27/2010 10:17 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
So much easier on Mikrotik. I hope Ubiquiti and Mikrotik combine
forces for a product that can defy the laws of physics and reality.
LOL.
Check out http://netshe.stasoft.net/node/28#main_features (I can't seem
to find the other ubnt contest
That's cool but there is still no multi VLAN support.
Need SSID/VLAN sets
- Jerry
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Jeromie Reeves
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:12 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA]
I will need to check into VLAN support.
Yes MT is easier off the GUI but I am profecient with the CLI and that
works fine for me.
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Jerry Richardson
jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote:
That's cool but there is still no multi VLAN support.
Need SSID/VLAN sets
-
On 09/27/2010 11:20 AM, Jeromie Reeves wrote:
I will need to check into VLAN support.
ifconfig eth0.x might do the trick.
http://wiki.openwrt.org/oldwiki/openwrtdocs/networkinterfaces
has some info.
WISPA
On 09/27/2010 10:11 AM, Jeromie Reeves wrote:
Yes. It supports it, you just need to use the command line to set it up.
wlanconfig ath1 wlanddev wifi0 create wlanmode ap
ifconfig ath1 up
iwconfig ath1 essid your.ssid
add encryption and ect with iwconifg
Here is a howto:
I assume he wants to vlan tag it and send it back to a trunk.
vconfig is on all the units I tested, so it sohuld be as simple as
setting up the config. I will sit down with a test unit and come up
with a working config.
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Charles N Wyble
char...@knownelement.com
Looking for some Waverider EUM 3004/3005. Hit me offlist if you have
any to sell.
Thanks
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This is for a public WiFi network that includes SSIDs for various agencies.
Each agency's traffic is on it's own VLAN and terminates in different locations:
- Public WiFi
- City Offices
- PD
- Sherriff
- County Fire
- County Offices
- Management Network
Only the Public WiFI VLAN sees any
Forget it.
The TV stations already think that they are loosing their space.
They have fought this whole TVWS thing tooth and nail. They won't be
giving any waivers.
Jeromie Reeves wrote:
There are already RF/DOCSIS hybrid systems. DOCSIS is a
very expensive idea to go with. The head end is
On 09/27/2010 11:58 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote:
This is for a public WiFi network that includes SSIDs for various agencies.
Each agency's traffic is on it's own VLAN and terminates in different
locations:
- Public WiFi
- City Offices
- PD
- Sherriff
- County Fire
- County Offices
-
I am working on a new Google Earth file with the TV contours that will be
available. Have all the channels mapped, just looking to see if I can easily
add other items like the border buffer areas and anything else that needs
protecting.
Thank You,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com
Awesome.
It will definitely be prominently featured in the FAQ. :)
On 09/27/2010 12:11 PM, Brian Webster wrote:
I am working on a new Google Earth file with the TV contours that will be
available. Have all the channels mapped, just looking to see if I can easily
add other items like the
What about bandwidth limits per ssid? What I would do is run one encrypted with
no limits and the other open with limits.
And what about WDS on one and not on the other?
Thanks!
Greg
On Sep 27, 2010, at 12:41 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote:
Yes. It supports it, you just need to use the command
+1 on wanting a UBNT+MT combo (RouterOS on UBNT gear).
Greg
On Sep 27, 2010, at 12:47 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
So much easier on Mikrotik. I hope Ubiquiti and Mikrotik combine
forces for a product that can defy the laws of physics and reality.
.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct:
I was just reading up on it, it seems that some radios (clients) choke when
they see multiple ssid's all with the same MAC address.
Gregorio
On Sep 27, 2010, at 12:41 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote:
Yes. It supports it, you just need to use the command line to set it up.
wlanconfig ath1 wlanddev
Right. Only one BSSID per MAC
- Jerry
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Greg Ihnen
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 12:59 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity with OpenWRT and multi VLAN/SSID
I was
But, but, Discovery Channel says you can ;P
http://www.yourdiscovery.com/video/pagani-defying-the-laws-of-physics/
http://www.yourdiscovery.com/video/pagani-defying-the-laws-of-physics/However,
it doesnt do so for my wallet!
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Josh Luthman
What are the limitations of doing so, the hardware (UBNT) or software (MT)?
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 3:37 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:
+1 on wanting a UBNT+MT combo (RouterOS on UBNT gear).
Greg
On Sep 27, 2010, at 12:47 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
So much easier on Mikrotik. I
Is the Spectrum Bridge site up to date with returned channels, or has
no one returned anything yet?
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
On 9/27/2010 2:11 PM, Brian Webster wrote:
I am working on a new Google Earth file with the TV contours that will be
Just guessing, possibly drivers (from UBNT) and a license (from MT). I'd gladly
pay for an MT license to put RouterOS on some of my UBNT.
Greg
On Sep 27, 2010, at 4:12 PM, RickG wrote:
What are the limitations of doing so, the hardware (UBNT) or software (MT)?
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 3:37
As I understand it there is bad Ju Ju between MT and UBNT
MT would do well to get over it and port RouterOS to UBNT
- Jerry
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of RickG
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 1:43 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re:
That would be my first choice. Another option would be if MT offered similar
hardware to UBNT - inexpensive, some one piece stuff like nanostation,
powerstation (with an FCC sticker! - ducking), MT already has the hodgepodge
u-buildit market.
Greg
On Sep 27, 2010, at 4:17 PM, Jerry Richardson
Just a few quick questions.Who will actually make the gear?What will it
cost???
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On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Jason Bailey j284...@yahoo.com wrote:
Just a few quick questions.Who will actually make the
Plenty of manufacturers have TVWS gear in their pipeline. We had this
discussion last week but Motorola is very far along in their development as
well as Alvarion and plenty of the other carrier grade names. I know Airspan
already made and deployed TVWS gear for a special project too.
No one
At 9/27/2010 12:24 PM, you wrote:
I have not had time to read up on TVWS much yet, but just had a
thought over the weekend. Wouldn't it be easy to adapt DOCSIS to TVWS?
DOCSIS radios do exist. Transcom and Vecima make them, mainly for
the 700 MHz band. Some rural licensed carriers are
FDD could be a good thing. Separate transmit and receive would allow you to
deal with white space channels that are not contiguous. With separate TX and
RX you could actually make use of the first adjacent channels. The HAAT
rules and power/antenna gain limits apply to transmitters. If you have
I assumed so, but was not sure if there was any kind of 'feature' built into
it or not. Still, when the time comes, I will spend the time to try it,
whats the worst that will happen, be told no?
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote:
Forget it.
The TV stations
Jeromie,
A quick check of WISPA's billing survey did not turn up your name as a WISPA
Member. If that is wrong and you are a Member then I warmly invite you to join
the FCC Committee so you can provide your input and ideas regarding spectrum
homesteading. If you are not a WISPA Member then
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