[WISPA] Every email and website to be stored

2010-10-21 Thread Jack Unger
Every email, phone call and website visit is to be recorded and stored after the Coalition Government revived controversial Big Brother snooping plans. It will allow security services and the police to spy on the activities of every Briton who uses a phone or the internet. Moves to make every

Re: [WISPA] Every email and website to be stored

2010-10-21 Thread Charles N Wyble
URL is broken the irony is thick. Lol. Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com wrote: Every email, phone call and website visit is to be recorded and stored after the Coalition Government revived controversial Big Brother snooping plans. It will allow security services and the police to spy on the

Re: [WISPA] Remote Controlled Drone

2010-10-21 Thread Blake Bowers
Let us all know how that works out for you. Key things I noticed when I read the FAQ, 1. the range will be greater if the AR drone is used in wide-open space with few Wi-Fi waves. Now, I am not a great technical wizard, but won't the majority of users from the WISPA mailing list have some of

[WISPA] Verizon LTE

2010-10-21 Thread Steve Barnes
Just got this from Verizon as a link on a advertisement: Verizon's 4G network will be available in 38 markets and major airports, covering approximately 100+ million people by the end of the year. We plan to double that in 2012 and cover our entire existing 3G footprint with 4G LTE by the end

Re: [WISPA] Verizon LTE

2010-10-21 Thread Mike Hammett
I am curious as to what this brings to the table and how the relationship actually is. Does the rural company build their own network, but with VZ's spectrum and brand of gear, then allowing full roaming? or Is this just a glorified contractor setup where the rural company is building VZ's

Re: [WISPA] Verizon LTE

2010-10-21 Thread Brian Webster
Read that to be they are working with those folks who operate their own cellular systems and are current Verizon Roaming partners……. Brian From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:23 AM To:

Re: [WISPA] Verizon LTE

2010-10-21 Thread Steve Barnes
The concern I have is in my coverage area Verizon already has 6 towers. I doubt they would be to worried about working with me. What I see is that I have 2 years to upgrade my equipment to be able to beat Verizon at all levels. TVWS could be a real game changer to us being so wooded. 700

Re: [WISPA] Verizon LTE

2010-10-21 Thread Blake Bowers
At the risk of being corrected yet again, I would recomend contacting them. I believe you will find (over time) that they are a bit more open than you believe. It is a slow process however. The big thing they are looking for are towers and backhaul. Many of the middle mile companies that have

Re: [WISPA] Verizon LTE

2010-10-21 Thread Blake Bowers
From my conversations with VzB, folks, they understand it to be closer to the latter, with VzW doing the actual build, on infrastructure such as backhaul and towers from partners. But I could be wrong. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor,

Re: [WISPA] Verizon LTE

2010-10-21 Thread Blake Bowers
I guess you could think - fibertower. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday,

Re: [WISPA] Verizon LTE

2010-10-21 Thread Brian Webster
Blake this is an excellent post and you are correct in that they are slow to change. Some markets will be better than others depending on the personality of the Chief Engineer. Brian -Original Message- From: Blake Bowers [mailto:bbow...@mozarks.com] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010

Re: [WISPA] Amplifiers OFDM: Facts vs Fiction

2010-10-21 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
RFLINX dumped streakwave and are doing it on their own again, in case anyone didn't know. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 _ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [WISPA] Every email and website to be stored

2010-10-21 Thread Al Stewart
URL worked here. Al -- At 11:44 PM 10/20/2010 -0700, Charles N Wyble wrote: --- URL is broken the irony is thick. Lol. Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com wrote: Every email, phone call and website visit is to be recorded and stored after

Re: [WISPA] Verizon LTE

2010-10-21 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Yeah but are the still going to have the 5GB/month cap? If so we could still be a viable option to consumers even if our speeds were slower. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 _ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Every email and website to be stored

2010-10-21 Thread Josh Luthman
Worked on my phone. On Oct 21, 2010 9:30 AM, Al Stewart stewa...@westcreston.ca wrote: URL worked here. Al -- At 11:44 PM 10/20/2010 -0700, Charles N Wyble wrote: --- URL is broken the irony is thick. Lol. Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com wrote: Every email, phone call and

Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors)

2010-10-21 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
I would NOT recommend anyone ever buy from WLANparts.com. I used to purchase things there every six months. My last order I placed an order for a RB600 and an HPOL 5.8ghz omni. Total order was for like $350 or so. Got an email from them saying the omni was on backorder. Got the RB600 and waited

Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors)

2010-10-21 Thread Jason Hensley
Wow, I've ordered several things from there in the past 6 months and I have never experienced anything even remotely close to this issue. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010

Re: [WISPA] Verizon LTE

2010-10-21 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 10/21/2010 09:36 AM, KurtF wrote: Yeah but are the still going to have the 5GB/month cap? If so we could still be a viable option to consumers even if our speeds were slower. It could be even worse than that, from a consumer perspective. They've talked about using LTE as a tool to moving

Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors)

2010-10-21 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
I wish I could say the same thing. It appeared to me that they run things completely online and automated. If you have a problem forget about customer service, probably don't even have anyone answering phones, just leave a message and hope they call you back if they feel like it. Kurt Fankhauser

Re: [WISPA] Amplifiers OFDM: Facts vs Fiction

2010-10-21 Thread Chuck Hogg
Hmmm... something happened. http://dockets.justia.com/docket/ohio/ohsdce/1:2010cv00054/135918/ http://dockets.justia.com/docket/ohio/ohsdce/1:2010cv00054/135918/ Regards, Chuck On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: RFLINX dumped streakwave and are doing

Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors)

2010-10-21 Thread Charles N Wyble
Kurt, The guy that runs it is easily findable on twitter. I bet he is easily findable in the white pages as well. I will contact him re your issue. I hope you haven't damaged his business too much with your post here. Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: I wish I could say the same

Re: [WISPA] Every email and website to be stored

2010-10-21 Thread Charles N Wyble
Yeah. I got to it via /. Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Worked on my phone. On Oct 21, 2010 9:30 AM, Al Stewart stewa...@westcreston.ca wrote: URL worked here. Al -- At 11:44 PM 10/20/2010 -0700, Charles N Wyble wrote: --- URL is broken the irony is thick.

Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors)

2010-10-21 Thread Chuck Hogg
It's posts like these that keep a company honest. I wouldn't think that he damaged their credibility maliciously if what he has stated is accurate. You shouldn't have to dig around to find information or contact info on a company like that. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:55 AM,

Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors)

2010-10-21 Thread Frank
Kurt, I'm on this list. I never received any emails from you and our phone number is clearly listed on your website. I don't recall having any voice mails about this issue. If we dropped the ball on shipping an item, I'm very sorry. Like anyone, we do make mistakes and I'll look into this and

Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors)

2010-10-21 Thread Forbes Mercy
I order once to twice a week from Pasadena Networks and I've never had one problem with them. Frank is easy to reach when I need an answer and their online inventory works unlike numerous other ordering places who tout what they don't have. His auto notification of when stock comes in works

Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors)

2010-10-21 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Charles, Well I would love to post to this thread saying that the issue was taken care of, I do not like posting negative stuff to lists about any vendors ever but I didn't want the same thing to happen to someone else that happened to me. Back on 4/27/10 after this issue occurred I posted to

Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors)

2010-10-21 Thread Chuck Hogg
Answered honestly and credibly. While I've never worked with them I never heard any issues about them when I ran QLW. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Frank inetli...@gmail.com wrote: Kurt, I'm on this list. I never received any emails from you and our phone number is

Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors)

2010-10-21 Thread Frank
Kurt, I searched through my emails and found a message from you back in May. I'm sorry we dropped the ball on this one. Please confirm the name and address that we should use in sending you a check today. Please do so in a private email to frank @ wlanparts.com Thank you

Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors)

2010-10-21 Thread Scott Dwenger
Rick, Have them ship it. I am not going to make it to cincy as originally planned this week. Thanks Scott Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint! - Reply message - From: Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com Date: Thu, Oct 21, 2010 11:16 am Subject: [WISPA]

Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors)

2010-10-21 Thread Charles N Wyble
Or its a smear campaign that doesn't hold water. I've seen that a lot on this list. Usually I stay out of it, but this time I had to speak up to defend a friend and locally (to me anyway) run company. As evidenced by the reply no real effort was made by the op to resolve the issue. Its easier

Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors)

2010-10-21 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Charles, The owner, Frank, has contacted me about this as of 10 minutes ago. I don't know what else I could have done here differently. First I sent an email to wlanparts, (which Frank acknowledged on the list that went un-noticed.) Second, I tried calling the phone number several times not

Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors)

2010-10-21 Thread Rick Harnish
I am happy to see that Frank has admitted his mistake. I believe that is the first step in proving a good vendor. We all know the quantity of emails and voicemails we receive on a daily basis and I bet each of you have procrastinated on answering emails or returning phone calls from time to

Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors)

2010-10-21 Thread Rick Harnish
I just sent another option. :) Rick -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 11:52 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors)

Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors)

2010-10-21 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
I see that now Rick. I do say, you are the best Executive Director WISPA has ever had. :) Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent:

Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors)

2010-10-21 Thread Rick Harnish
Hehe, the only one. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 12:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) I see that now Rick.

Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors)

2010-10-21 Thread Jerry Richardson
Same experience here. Pasadena has always been on the ball From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy [forbes.me...@wabroadband.com] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 11:16 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re:

[WISPA] P2P Traffic

2010-10-21 Thread Bill Price
I sure this has been asked before. How are you guys handling P2P traffic? We are using microtik on one of our networks. Thanks Bill WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] anyone know what this is about?

2010-10-21 Thread Jeromie Reeves
Most everyone with dsl already has a wireless access point thanks to Qwest, ATT and a few others. Nice 400mw units to boot! I am 'more afraid' of the 1099 stuff then I am of the FCC wanting licenses for all RF devices, but some days I can imagine all new stuff having a GPS chip and needing to

Re: [WISPA] P2P Traffic

2010-10-21 Thread Dennis Burgess
Blocking it J --- Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training

Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment

2010-10-21 Thread Jayson Baker
1 person on each end with a small hand-held mirror. Flash the person on the other tower. When it's sunny out, you'd be surprised how far away you can see that. On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.comwrote: Well in my area if its e-w about a turn, n-s 2 or 3.

Re: [WISPA] P2P Traffic

2010-10-21 Thread Carl Shivers
We are using NetEnforcer. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bill Price Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 11:15 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] P2P Traffic I sure this has been asked before. How are you guys handling P2P traffic?

Re: [WISPA] POE Injectors / Passive / Shielded ports

2010-10-21 Thread Scott Parsons
This probably fits the bill. http://www.wlanparts.com/product/POE-INJ-LED-S/Shielded-POE-Inserter-With-Po wer-Current-LEDS.html Shielded and has a power on led and a current indicator led (to show when something is drawing current at the end of the cat5 cable run). Works to 24VDC.

Re: [WISPA] Verizon LTE

2010-10-21 Thread Tom DeReggi
Yes this says. BTOP/BIP recipients You know that open access policy. Guess what, we are going to use your assets to compete against you for last mile customers, and we wont have any restrictions. We (Verizon) have the spectrum and you dont, so we are protected. You know what... we

Re: [WISPA] P2P Traffic

2010-10-21 Thread Justin Wilson
Limit it. Lots of legit p2p traffic (WOW, download Cent OS, etc.) -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog ­ xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw ­ Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting ­ Tower Climbing ­ Network Support From: Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net

Re: [WISPA] P2P Traffic

2010-10-21 Thread Chuck Hogg
Allowing it, queuing the customer's that download for large periods of time to slower speeds. Games are starting to use it more and more...We allow 25GB/mth of usage before they are cut back to 128k. That only accounts for like 10 customers of over 1500. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at

Re: [WISPA] P2P Traffic

2010-10-21 Thread Jim Patient
We just limit torrent to 1M and all other p2p to 2M in our Powerouters. We also limit client connections to 50 per IP. I got tired of telling subs to set WOW to use http. Jim Patient Cell: 314-565-6863 Desk: 636-692-4200 YIM: jeffcosoho www.wlan1.com www.linktechs.net www.wifimidwest.com On

Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors)

2010-10-21 Thread Frank
Kurt's check should arrive on or before October 25th. A few people mentioned not being able to get through our phones in late April. If I'm remembering correctly, that was the time our PBX went south. I was fixed shortly thereafter. I appreciate all the supporting comments on this list. We'll

Re: [WISPA] Amplifiers OFDM: Facts vs Fiction

2010-10-21 Thread Blair Davis
I did not know that On 10/21/2010 9:28 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: RFLINX dumped

Re: [WISPA] Remote Controlled Drone

2010-10-21 Thread Matt Jenkins
Shaver yes: http://www.tomsoft.co.uk/iphone/shaver.htm On 10/20/2010 09:01 PM, RickG wrote: Does an iphone include a shaver swiss knife yet? :) On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 8:21 PM, John Thomas jtho...@quarnet.com wrote: I have no idea if this would be on any use to anyone, but it seems

Re: [WISPA] anyone know what this is about?

2010-10-21 Thread jp
http://www.networkworld.com/columnists/2010/100610antonopoulos.html covers it with reasonable skill. Basically if this happens, illegal activity will be safely secure with illegal encryption (The cat is out of the bag with regard to quality encryption), and legal activity will be of unknown

Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors)

2010-10-21 Thread RickG
I second that! :) -RickG On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: I see that now Rick. I do say, you are the best Executive Director WISPA has ever had. :) Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 -Original

Re: [WISPA] Remote Controlled Drone

2010-10-21 Thread RickG
I agree with you there. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 7:48 AM, Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com wrote: Let us all know how that works out for you. Key things I noticed when I read the FAQ, 1. the range will be greater if the AR drone is used in wide-open space with few Wi-Fi waves. Now, I am

Re: [WISPA] anyone know what this is about?

2010-10-21 Thread RickG
Ya, but I'm talking about EVERYONE. I'd plug them in just for the sake of it, even if they're not connected to anything. OK, enough of that cause it probably wont happen anyway. With that said, I agree, the 1099 thing is ridiculous. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Jeromie Reeves