[WISPA] Cisco Deal of the Day $10 Deploying License Free Wireless

2010-11-02 Thread Justin Wilson
Anyone who does not not have Jack Unger¹s book now is your time to get it. It is the eBook and the offer is only good for 24 hours. Cost is $9.99. Normally this is a $60 book. http://www.ciscopress.com/deals/index.asp -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog ­ xISP News

Re: [WISPA] Copper GigE Distance

2010-11-02 Thread Matt
Anyone know of a GigE version of this? DMC-300SC 100BASE-TX to 100BASE-FX Multimode SC Media Converter http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=596 D-Link DMC-700SC  http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=DMC-700SC TPLINK MC200CM http://www.tp-link.com/products/productDetails.asp?pmodel=MC200CM I

Re: [WISPA] Copper GigE Distance

2010-11-02 Thread Scott Reed
I have never used their equipment, but I have a catalog from BB Electronics that has GigE-fiber media converters. bb-elec.com, search for EIR-X On 11/2/2010 7:06 AM, Matt wrote: Anyone know of a GigE version of this? DMC-300SC 100BASE-TX to 100BASE-FX Multimode SC Media Converter

Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS

2010-11-02 Thread Nick Olsen
We have two full tables running on mikrotik, in two different locations. Running that command /ip route print count-only where bgp-as-path=1234 Replacing the AS with 33363 (local cable company). Doesn't work on either of our routers for some reason (MT 5.0rc1 or 4.4). Our router running a core 2

Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS

2010-11-02 Thread Matt
We have two full tables running on mikrotik, in two different locations. Running that command /ip route print count-only where bgp-as-path=1234 Replacing the AS with 33363 (local cable company). Doesn't work on either of our routers for some reason (MT 5.0rc1 or 4.4). I don't suppose

Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS

2010-11-02 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Hi Nick, How stable has the Mikrotik been running full BGP with the two providers ? (I read about a memory leak issues, is that why you are using 5.0rc1 ?) We have been considering getting a Mikrotik for such use. Thanks. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 11/2/2010 9:21 AM, Nick Olsen

Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS

2010-11-02 Thread Brad Belton
We've been running BGP with MikroTik for quite some time now. It hasn't been flawless by any stretch, but ever since late v2.8 or early v2.9 we haven't had much trouble with it. We running v3.30 on two routers with two full feeds each and a third running v4.11 with two full feeds. All of these

Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS

2010-11-02 Thread Chuck Hogg
Our MikroTik BGP router keeps crashing about once every month or so...sometimes sooner, sometimes later. We are using full BGP tables and 4.11 currently. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote: We've been running BGP with MikroTik for quite some

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-11-02 Thread Matt
   AS # is for BGP advertisements. Akamai has a program for ISPs who use a good deal of bandwidth to their network. http://www.akamai.com/html/partners/network_program.html Basically you give them your AS (you have to be multi homed) and they see if you meet the minimum bandwidth to

Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS

2010-11-02 Thread Matt
Our MikroTik BGP router keeps crashing about once every month or so...sometimes sooner, sometimes later.  We are using full BGP tables and 4.11 currently. When it crashes does it reboot itself? WISPA Wants You!

Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS

2010-11-02 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
This is exactly what I am concerned with. Things breaking once in a while is not an issue.. Things breaking once every month or few weeks is not going to be acceptable from our users.. Trying to determine if this is a 'feature' or a short term 'bug'. Cisco's and Junipers, get a premium even

Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS

2010-11-02 Thread Justin Wilson
Look into Imagestream for BGP. Very stable and less expensive than Cisco. IMHO you want something running the edge of your network to have support and software updates. If you go with Cisco plan on the extra expense of Smartnet. Having said that I have ran BGP on Imagestream in the 3.X

Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS

2010-11-02 Thread Nick Olsen
So far the box running 5.0RC1 has been rock solid. Its a routermaxx 1200. So it has to run 5.x, No memory leak issues. Both of our BGP routers have 0 problems. No strange reboots, No strange anything. One running 4.4 one with 5.0rc1. We had problems in 4.1 I belive with it idling out a session

Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS

2010-11-02 Thread Gino Villarini
Anyone doing Vyatta for Edge? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Justin Wilson Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 10:52 AM To: fai...@snappydsl.net; WISPA General

Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS

2010-11-02 Thread jp
We use MT BGP internally on our network; not full feeds. 1400 routes on one server. Works great for that; no reliability issues in every day operation. No problems with 12 month uptimes. I have seen some minor issues in 3.30 where if you remove a peer prior to disabling first, it can jam

Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS

2010-11-02 Thread Brad Belton
Agreed. Breaking about once a month or possibly even more frequently than that is what we started to see with one of our v3.30 BGP routers. This was after flawless performance for many, many months. This is why we initially felt it might be a hardware issue. MikroTik Support response was

Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS

2010-11-02 Thread Blake Covarrubias
I haven't tried using MT for my eBGP feeds, but with so many people having issues I'm not even interested in giving it a shot. Buy a Cisco or Juniper. I've run BGP on refurbished Cisco 7500's and GSR's for the past few years with zero issues. My routers have at least two eBGP peers, full

Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS

2010-11-02 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Hi J.P. and others, I have a dog in this fight (I work for ImageStream), but this comment applies to just about any situation/hardware. Set up redundant routers using BGP and VRRP (HSRP in Cisco.although apparently they support VRRP also). If you can't afford to be down, you need to find

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-11-02 Thread Marco Coelho
Between your border router and a properly configured squid server, you can replace entire domains using wccp. It's a pain to manage, but doable. Marco On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Matt lm7...@gmail.com wrote: AS # is for BGP advertisements. Akamai has a program for ISPs who use a

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-11-02 Thread support
has anyone been able to get squid to ease the pain of netflix /hulu /youtube ??? if yes can you give some pointers? Thanks On 11/2/2010 11:05 AM, Marco Coelho wrote: Between your border router and a properly configured squid server, you can replace entire domains using wccp. It's a pain to

Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS

2010-11-02 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Hi Jeff, Glad to see you jump into this.. Would you feel comfortable is sharing what Model Image Stream will do the following:- be able to handle full bgp feeds from multiple providers ( 2gig Ram ?) and be able to handle 300 - to a GIG of traffic ? Rough cost of unit will be great to know as

Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS

2010-11-02 Thread Blake Covarrubias
For those interested in BGP and VRRP, take look at this thread from the Vyatta forums. http://www.vyatta.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4213sid=0b9f48079b1388c4fb722704ac6221ae Its not hitless, stateful failover, but this method will work and provides probably the best failover you're going to see

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-11-02 Thread David E. Smith
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 11:09, support supp...@nitline.com wrote: has anyone been able to get squid to ease the pain of netflix /hulu /youtube ??? I've played with it in the past, but never could get much out of it. I think there are two reasons for this. First, in my network, the pain is

Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS

2010-11-02 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Hi Faisal, I'll be happy to get you specific pricing off-list. I'm not totally sure how far I am allowed to go on-list. The specific router I would recommend would be dependent on a couple factors: Average packet size - If this is a VoIP heavy application, the load on the router will

Re: [WISPA] Cisco Deal of the Day $10 Deploying License Free Wireless

2010-11-02 Thread RickG
I waiting on his new one. Jack? On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 4:15 AM, Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net wrote: Anyone who does not not have Jack Unger’s book now is your time to get it. It is the eBook and the offer is only good for 24 hours. Cost is $9.99. Normally this is a $60 book.

[WISPA] Integra telcom

2010-11-02 Thread Jeromie Reeves
Anyone have a good contact over at Integra Telecom, that bought up UCI? Jeromie WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS

2010-11-02 Thread Chuck Hogg
No, we have to hard reboot it. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Matt lm7...@gmail.com wrote: Our MikroTik BGP router keeps crashing about once every month or so...sometimes sooner, sometimes later.  We are using full BGP tables and 4.11 currently. When it crashes does it

Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS

2010-11-02 Thread Matt
No, we have to hard reboot it. Regards, What kind of hardware is it running on? Have you checked memory? On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Matt lm7...@gmail.com wrote: Our MikroTik BGP router keeps crashing about once every month or so...sometimes sooner, sometimes later.  We are using full

[WISPA] Mikrotik Question: Subinterface?

2010-11-02 Thread Matt Jenkins
How do I create a subinterface on an ethernet port on a rb750? Bridged CPE - Tik Port1 - Port2 Cust 1 - Port3 Cust 2 I need to create two sub interfaces on Port 1. One for each customer to receive an IP via DHCP. Then I need to NAT each of those sub

[WISPA] Service in Columbus OH ?

2010-11-02 Thread Scott Carullo
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Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS

2010-11-02 Thread Rubens Kuhl
Although a P3 800 is not something we could call powerful these days, what you've seen is connected to software, not hardware. Since Mikrotik replaced Quagga with XORP in ROS 3.x, a good number of users report minutes of high CPU in a full-routing environment. Does not happen for everyone, but

[WISPA] Texas / Oklahoma ISPs interested in selling?

2010-11-02 Thread Marco Coelho
We are looking to perform some acquisitions within the next 6 months. We would be interested in talking to anyone in this same region that has an interest in selling their business. If you are interested, contact me off-list please. Marco -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875

Re: [WISPA] [Board] Broadband Expo

2010-11-02 Thread Forbes Mercy
Victoria, I'm finally getting a minute to respond, WISPA has been very busy at this show and I'm manning the booth right now. Its been pretty constant and I brought my laptop, already signed up a new vendor member and a principal member. This is a different show than the Regional meeting with

Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS

2010-11-02 Thread Gerard Dupont
I'll fill in some more details for Chuck.. We started out on a RB1000 with a single bgp peer. All worked fine for a long time. We then added a second bgp peer and switched to full tables tables and it started leaking memory and would lock after a few weeks to a couple months of running. After

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Question: Subinterface?

2010-11-02 Thread Jeromie Reeves
If you mean like eth0.1 and eth0.2 then you need to use a vlan switch, else once its on the wire, there is no way to know what comes from who. It would be best to place another multi port router inline to give you physical ports, or use vlans. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Matt Jenkins

Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS

2010-11-02 Thread Scott Lambert
On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 05:23:40PM -0400, Gerard Dupont wrote: I have another x86 system that I think I'm going to load freebsd on it and just run Quagga. I don't want to spend the money on a cisco to handle 3+ full bgp feeds and 300+mbit of traffic. bsdrp.org? or a full FreeBSD install? I

Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS

2010-11-02 Thread Kristian Hoffmann
On Tue, 2010-11-02 at 18:52 -0500, Scott Lambert wrote: I still need to try a Vyatta system. I loathe the idea of managing a *nix distro on a router (which is why we use RouterOS now). Apparently I've had too much Tik-aid, because I had completely forgotten about Vyatta and similar options.

Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS

2010-11-02 Thread Chuck Profito
Image stream, excellent price and support -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kristian Hoffmann Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 5:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS On Tue, 2010-11-02

Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS

2010-11-02 Thread Bret Clark
On 11/02/2010 08:37 PM, Kristian Hoffmann wrote: On Tue, 2010-11-02 at 18:52 -0500, Scott Lambert wrote: I still need to try a Vyatta system. I loathe the idea of managing a *nix distro on a router (which is why we use RouterOS now). Apparently I've had too much Tik-aid, because

Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS

2010-11-02 Thread Blake Covarrubias
Nobody asked, but here it is. A sample BGP and VRRP config. I tested this with a few MetaROUTER VM's and it all worked. Hopefully I don't have any typos. I implemented the config to mirror that shown in the picture from the thread on the Vyatta forum. If you need assistance adapting this to

Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS

2010-11-02 Thread Charles N Wyble
On 11/02/2010 05:37 PM, Kristian Hoffmann wrote: On Tue, 2010-11-02 at 18:52 -0500, Scott Lambert wrote: I have a SuperMicro 5015A-H (Atom 330 dual-core) coming in tomorrow. I'm going to try RouterOS and Vyatta and see how BGP responds on each with a single feed. If anyone else has an

Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS

2010-11-02 Thread Gerard Dupont
I've never heard of bsdrp before. I'll have to check it out. I was planning on doing a full freebsd install.. I've been using FreeBSD for 10 years and it is my platform of choice. Gerard On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Scott Lambert lamb...@lambertfam.org wrote: On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at

Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS

2010-11-02 Thread Nick Olsen
We had problems loading Mikrotik on the supermicro atom 330 dual-core at first. Took some finagling. Something like had to install 5.x on it, and then downgrade it to 4.x from winbox, Its all hazy now.. Routermaxx 1200 is rocksolid (Axiomtek appliance) Nick Olsen Network Operations (855)

Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS

2010-11-02 Thread Tom DeReggi
Note: Quagga has been very reliable for quite some time now. Imagestream and Vyatta both use Quagga. Both are great choices for BGP routers. I personally use Mandrake (Mandriva) Linux with a slew of custom modifications that we have made, loaded on SuperMicro, and then use latest Quagga. That

Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS

2010-11-02 Thread Scott Lambert
On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 06:13:19PM -0700, Charles N Wyble wrote: On 11/02/2010 05:37 PM, Kristian Hoffmann wrote: On Tue, 2010-11-02 at 18:52 -0500, Scott Lambert wrote: I have a SuperMicro 5015A-H (Atom 330 dual-core) coming in tomorrow. I'm going to try RouterOS and Vyatta and see how

Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS

2010-11-02 Thread Scott Lambert
On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 10:18:46PM -0400, Gerard Dupont wrote: I've never heard of bsdrp before. I'll have to check it out. I was planning on doing a full freebsd install.. I've been using FreeBSD for 10 years and it is my platform of choice. bsdrp is nice in that they have a good nanobsd

Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS

2010-11-02 Thread Travis Johnson
Tom, I agree that Linux works very well as a router, but it still doesn't compare to a dedicated hardware platform (like Cisco) that was built from the ground up to do nothing but routing. We purchased a used Cisco 12008 router about 1.5 years ago off ebay. They are very, very cheap... the