Re: [WISPA] Meeting today with Connected Nation........
I did here you say that you were guna start up the fire place yesterday. Great way to keep the fire going. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 10:55 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Meeting today with Connected Nation Always expect the best From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David Hannum Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 10:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Meeting today with Connected Nation How professional! David Hannum New Era Broadband, LLC On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 10:39 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6cvnhPh6jo Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. 740-335-7020 Cell 937-903-1286 https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2ik=38e82010caview=attth=12d7d74e58 63d4eeattid=0.0.1disp=embzw Affordable Internet For Everyone! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Job Posting
Quick note about a job posting on the wispa.org classifieds (http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=2298id=236). Looking for a couple staff for WISP installs and support in Afghanistan (on US / ISAF bases) and in Western Africa (Liberia/Sierra Leone). More info on the posting URL above. Thanks Jason WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Clarification for TDWR registration
In regards to this voluntary database: http://spectrumbridge.com/udrs/home.aspx Are you looking for anything operating in the 5.4 band or anything in the 5.x (5.2 to 5.7) band? I personally have nothing close (RF wise) to TDWR. Closest being 5715 (75 Mhz away). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Anyone running MT RB-750, UBNT gear doing IPv6?
I've got a small network with a MT RB-750 and UBNT (PS2's, NSL2's, NSLM5's, NSM5's and a BulletM2) and I'm wondering how we're going to fair if/when our upstream throws the switch on IPv6. I'd like to hear someone else is already doing it. Our upstream apparently is Hughesnet being resold in South America. I'm not sure if their system/our modem is IPv6 capable/ready. That may keep us on IPv4 and tunneled/nat'ed to IPv6 for some time. Greg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Clarification for TDWR registration
Josh, The band is 5470 to 5725. This includes the 5600-5650 part that the TDWRs use. If you are within 30 km of a TDWR, you should stay at least 30 MHz away from it (below and above). For example, if the TDWR is at 5610 then you should exclude 5580 to 5640. If you are further away but within line-of-sight of the TDWR (like on a high mountain) you should also stay 30 MHz away. Did I say that clearly? jack On 1/13/2011 6:56 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: In regards to this voluntary database: http://spectrumbridge.com/udrs/home.aspx Are you looking for anything operating in the 5.4 band or anything in the 5.x (5.2 to 5.7) band? I personally have nothing close (RF wise) to TDWR. Closest being 5715 (75 Mhz away). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Author (2003) - "Deploying License-Free Wireless Wide-Area Networks" Serving the WISP, Networking and Telecom Communities since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Clarification for TDWR registration
Jack, That is clear and I am practicing that. My concern was the database. Would it help to know I have nothing near those frequencies? Is it only for people operating 30-100 Mhz within a TDWR? I guess I just miss the point of the website. If operators stay away from the bad frequencies what's the point of the website? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com wrote: Josh, The band is 5470 to 5725. This includes the 5600-5650 part that the TDWRs use. If you are within 30 km of a TDWR, you should stay at least 30 MHz away from it (below and above). For example, if the TDWR is at 5610 then you should exclude 5580 to 5640. If you are further away but within line-of-sight of the TDWR (like on a high mountain) you should also stay 30 MHz away. Did I say that clearly? jack On 1/13/2011 6:56 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: In regards to this voluntary database: http://spectrumbridge.com/udrs/home.aspx Are you looking for anything operating in the 5.4 band or anything in the 5.x (5.2 to 5.7) band? I personally have nothing close (RF wise) to TDWR. Closest being 5715 (75 Mhz away). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Author (2003) - Deploying License-Free Wireless Wide-Area Networks Serving the WISP, Networking and Telecom Communities since 1993www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone running MT RB-750, UBNT gear doing IPv6?
At 1/13/2011 10:00 AM, GregI wrote: I've got a small network with a MT RB-750 and UBNT (PS2's, NSL2's, NSLM5's, NSM5's and a BulletM2) and I'm wondering how we're going to fair if/when our upstream throws the switch on IPv6. I'd like to hear someone else is already doing it. Our upstream apparently is Hughesnet being resold in South America. I'm not sure if their system/our modem is IPv6 capable/ready. That may keep us on IPv4 and tunneled/nat'ed to IPv6 for some time. Personal opinion: IPv6 is worth less than the paper its RFC is printed on. Ignore it and it will go away. Really. If one of your subscribers really needs to reach something only accessible via IPv6, they can tunnel out. But since there is no compatibility, the transition plan requires dual stack. So everything runs v4 until everybody is on v6. But since there's always more on v4 (everybody) than on v6 (those who have added the dual stack), there's no incentive for users to move to v4. The only benefit is to some ISPs, not to users. So users have little reason to move. (Sometimes users are smarter than some ISPs.) Plus v6 is an abomination, a misdesign of immense proportions, so you shouldn't buy into Cisco's fantasies. -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Households and population passed by the WISP industry..... over 76 Million households
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 22:43, Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.comwrote: A week or so ago, I ran a study of the population and households passed by principal WISPA members. Tonight I ran the numbers based on the whole national WISP coverage map you all contributed to over the last couple of years. The method for the calculation is pretty basic. For every zip code tabulation area there is a standard recognized centroid point. I took the big yellow national WISP coverage blob http://www.wirelessmapping.com/National-Coverage-Map-for-Fixed-Wireless-ISP%27s.phpand selected all of the zip code centroid points contained within it. I found a database table of households and populations for these zip code tabulation areas. The numbers are based on the 2000 census data so it’s a bit stale. Isn't this exactly why the FCC now requests counts by census tract? ZIP codes are awfully big in some places, and just because an ISP can service one person in a ZIP, doesn't guarantee they can service everyone. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone running MT RB-750, UBNT gear doing IPv6?
Direct answer to the queston is, you will not know when it is turned on. IPv6 is a new protocol that uses different header information in the packets. If you don't turn on support on your devices, they will ignore the packets. I disagree with Fred's opinions. Not everything is going to run v4 until v6 is prevalent. There will soon be content that is only available via v6. We are going to need to be able to get our customers access to v6 sometime in the not too distant future. Since IPv6 has been standardized by the IETF, I don't think it is any longer a Cisco dream. It is going to become a prevalent part of the internet. On 1/13/2011 10:19 AM, Fred Goldstein wrote: At 1/13/2011 10:00 AM, GregI wrote: I've got a small network with a MT RB-750 and UBNT (PS2's, NSL2's, NSLM5's, NSM5's and a BulletM2) and I'm wondering how we're going to fair if/when our upstream throws the switch on IPv6. I'd like to hear someone else is already doing it. Our upstream apparently is Hughesnet being resold in South America. I'm not sure if their system/our modem is IPv6 capable/ready. That may keep us on IPv4 and tunneled/nat'ed to IPv6 for some time. Personal opinion: IPv6 is worth less than the paper its RFC is printed on. Ignore it and it will go away. Really. If one of your subscribers really needs to reach something only accessible via IPv6, they can tunnel out. But since there is no compatibility, the transition plan requires dual stack. So everything runs v4 until everybody is on v6. But since there's always more on v4 (everybody) than on v6 (those who have added the dual stack), there's no incentive for users to move to v4. The only benefit is to some ISPs, not to users. So users have little reason to move. (Sometimes users are smarter than some ISPs.) Plus v6 is an abomination, a misdesign of immense proportions, so you shouldn't buy into Cisco's fantasies. -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone running MT RB-750, UBNT gear doing IPv6?
I've got a small network with a MT RB-750 and UBNT (PS2's, NSL2's, NSLM5's, NSM5's and a BulletM2) and I'm wondering how we're going to fair if/when our upstream throws the switch on IPv6. I'd like to hear someone else is already doing it. Our upstream apparently is Hughesnet being resold in South America. I'm not sure if their system/our modem is IPv6 capable/ready. That may keep us on IPv4 and tunneled/nat'ed to IPv6 for some time. Personal opinion: IPv6 is worth less than the paper its RFC is printed on. Ignore it and it will go away. Really. I am very concerned being that only 2 percent of the IPv4 pool remains. http://ipv6.he.net/statistics/ In a few months we may not be able to get more IPv4 space. What then? NAT everyone? Ugh, with thousands of custommers thats an ugly proposition. How do you track down abuse, subpoena issues and so many other things... If one of your subscribers really needs to reach something only accessible via IPv6, they can tunnel out. But since there is no compatibility, the transition plan requires dual stack. So everything runs v4 until everybody is on v6. But since there's always more on v4 (everybody) than on v6 (those who have added the dual stack), there's no incentive for users to move to v4. The only benefit is to some ISPs, not to users. So users have little reason to move. (Sometimes users are smarter than some ISPs.) Plus v6 is an abomination, a misdesign of immense proportions, so you shouldn't buy into Cisco's fantasies. -- Fred Goldstein k1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone running MT RB-750, UBNT gear doing IPv6?
I agree. v4 space IS running out. Cellular co's are looking to move to a v6 space and drop the nat that most of them run. I already run dual stack on my MT's. I am waiting for Ubnt to add v6 so I can hand directly to end users as well. There are like 7 /8's left and IIRC China gobbled 2 in 2010 and is expected to take another in February or March. AfriNIC is expected to take one as well, that will then trigger the last 5 to be handed out. Then we are looking at the end of v4 space. ARIN will have its total allocations and once they hand out what they have, there is no more to be hand unless someone gives up space. Can I have your v4 IPs? v6 will be a must by the end of this year, middle of 2012 at the latest. Hmm, maybe them Myans really did know something, its 1999 all over again!! On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Scott Reed sr...@nwwnet.net wrote: Direct answer to the queston is, you will not know when it is turned on. IPv6 is a new protocol that uses different header information in the packets. If you don't turn on support on your devices, they will ignore the packets. I disagree with Fred's opinions. Not everything is going to run v4 until v6 is prevalent. There will soon be content that is only available via v6. We are going to need to be able to get our customers access to v6 sometime in the not too distant future. Since IPv6 has been standardized by the IETF, I don't think it is any longer a Cisco dream. It is going to become a prevalent part of the internet. On 1/13/2011 10:19 AM, Fred Goldstein wrote: At 1/13/2011 10:00 AM, GregI wrote: I've got a small network with a MT RB-750 and UBNT (PS2's, NSL2's, NSLM5's, NSM5's and a BulletM2) and I'm wondering how we're going to fair if/when our upstream throws the switch on IPv6. I'd like to hear someone else is already doing it. Our upstream apparently is Hughesnet being resold in South America. I'm not sure if their system/our modem is IPv6 capable/ready. That may keep us on IPv4 and tunneled/nat'ed to IPv6 for some time. Personal opinion: IPv6 is worth less than the paper its RFC is printed on. Ignore it and it will go away. Really. If one of your subscribers really needs to reach something only accessible via IPv6, they can tunnel out. But since there is no compatibility, the transition plan requires dual stack. So everything runs v4 until everybody is on v6. But since there's always more on v4 (everybody) than on v6 (those who have added the dual stack), there's no incentive for users to move to v4. The only benefit is to some ISPs, not to users. So users have little reason to move. (Sometimes users are smarter than some ISPs.) Plus v6 is an abomination, a misdesign of immense proportions, so you shouldn't buy into Cisco's fantasies. -- Fred Goldstein k1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] MT user manager test
Tried loading this package and nothing. Does it require a different license? Jerry Richardson Sent Mobile WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone running MT RB-750, UBNT gear doing IPv6?
I'm currently using a RB-750 with a IPv6 tunnel/delegation from he.net at home. Works fine. On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: I've got a small network with a MT RB-750 and UBNT (PS2's, NSL2's, NSLM5's, NSM5's and a BulletM2) and I'm wondering how we're going to fair if/when our upstream throws the switch on IPv6. I'd like to hear someone else is already doing it. Our upstream apparently is Hughesnet being resold in South America. I'm not sure if their system/our modem is IPv6 capable/ready. That may keep us on IPv4 and tunneled/nat'ed to IPv6 for some time. Greg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone running MT RB-750, UBNT gear doing IPv6?
Oh good point, me too. Keep in mind this is a 6 over 4 tunnel. The 750 talks ipv4 to he.net Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net wrote: I'm currently using a RB-750 with a IPv6 tunnel/delegation from he.net at home. Works fine. On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: I've got a small network with a MT RB-750 and UBNT (PS2's, NSL2's, NSLM5's, NSM5's and a BulletM2) and I'm wondering how we're going to fair if/when our upstream throws the switch on IPv6. I'd like to hear someone else is already doing it. Our upstream apparently is Hughesnet being resold in South America. I'm not sure if their system/our modem is IPv6 capable/ready. That may keep us on IPv4 and tunneled/nat'ed to IPv6 for some time. Greg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT user manager test
Start here: http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/User_Manager On 1/13/2011 12:09 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote: Tried loading this package and nothing. Does it require a different license? Jerry Richardson Sent Mobile WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT user manager test
I think it is x86 only? That's about it. I have it on an x86 that is running 3.teens or twenties. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Tried loading this package and nothing. Does it require a different license? Jerry Richardson Sent Mobile WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT user manager test
Read that. Doesn't really address my question. I tried several times to install the package but it's not installing The package is on the router so I disabled the standard user manager and enabled usermanager-test and rebooted. Look at installed packages it's not there. Go to /tool/print and it does not show up. Jerry Richardson Sent Mobile On Jan 13, 2011, at 9:20 AM, Scott Reed sr...@nwwnet.netmailto:sr...@nwwnet.net wrote: Start here: http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/User_Managerhttp://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/User_Manager On 1/13/2011 12:09 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote: Tried loading this package and nothing. Does it require a different license? Jerry Richardson Sent Mobile WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: mailto:wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified http://www.nwwnet.netwww.nwwnet.nethttp://www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: mailto:wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelesshttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3375 - Release Date: 01/12/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT user manager test
Not sure about that. There is a test package on the unit that was part of the all packages release and that won't load either. Its probably my lack of experience showing Jerry Richardson Sent Mobile On Jan 13, 2011, at 9:30 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I think it is x86 only? That's about it. I have it on an x86 that is running 3.teens or twenties. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Jerry Richardson mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.comjrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Tried loading this package and nothing. Does it require a different license? Jerry Richardson Sent Mobile WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: mailto:wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelesshttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ATT1.c WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Households and population passed by the WISP industry..... over 76 Million households
Yes they do want it by tract. The best way to study this is down to the census block. Census blocks are small geographic areas and in states like California and Illinois there are about half a million blocks. WISPA and the WISP industry has been asking for some way to quantify some sort of numbers that they can quote when talking about the WISP industry as a whole. I would LOVE to map exactly where EVERY WISP covers with their RF signal and then do a household count at the census block level. That is the most accurate. However, I don't have every WISP's RF footprint and I don't have the volunteer time to do every state separately and then add up the nation as a whole. You can't put the whole country together as one file of census blocks, it's too much data. I could do this and I also have all of the blocks covered by cable and DSL so I could tabulate the number of homes WISP's cover that those industries don't. It all takes time and I can't do that for free nor am I willing to give up the information about the cable and DSL coverage since I paid a large sum of money for that data set. The zip code method was something that I could do on a nationwide basis without taking a huge amount of my time. It's a start. If the industry really wants more accurate numbers I am available for hire. This is how I make a living. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com www.Broadband-Mapping.com From: David E. Smith [mailto:d...@mvn.net] Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 10:40 AM To: bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Households and population passed by the WISP industry. over 76 Million households On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 22:43, Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com wrote: A week or so ago, I ran a study of the population and households passed by principal WISPA members. Tonight I ran the numbers based on the whole national WISP coverage map you all contributed to over the last couple of years. The method for the calculation is pretty basic. For every zip code tabulation area there is a standard recognized centroid point. I took the big yellow national WISP coverage blob http://www.wirelessmapping.com/National-Coverage-Map-for-Fixed-Wireless-ISP% 27s.php and selected all of the zip code centroid points contained within it. I found a database table of households and populations for these zip code tabulation areas. The numbers are based on the 2000 census data so it's a bit stale. Isn't this exactly why the FCC now requests counts by census tract? ZIP codes are awfully big in some places, and just because an ISP can service one person in a ZIP, doesn't guarantee they can service everyone. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Households and population passed by the WISP industry..... over 76 Million households
Plus you'd have to trust that all the coverage footprints are correct...something that could be very subjective. An accurate study like what you are suggesting would be a massive undertaking to do well. I don't blame you at all for not wanting to give that away. I'm curious as to what Connected Nation is doing with all that coverage data they are producing? Shouldn't that be available since it is being funded with taxpayer money? Regards, Cameron On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com wrote: Yes they do want it by tract. The best way to study this is down to the census block. Census blocks are small geographic areas and in states like California and Illinois there are about half a million blocks. WISPA and the WISP industry has been asking for some way to quantify some sort of numbers that they can quote when talking about the WISP industry as a whole. I would *LOVE* to map exactly where *EVERY WISP* covers with their RF signal and then do a household count at the census block level. That is the most accurate. However, I don’t have every WISP’s RF footprint and I don’t have the volunteer time to do every state separately and then add up the nation as a whole. You can’t put the whole country together as one file of census blocks, it’s too much data. I could do this and I also have all of the blocks covered by cable and DSL so I could tabulate the number of homes WISP’s cover that those industries don’t. It all takes time and I can’t do that for free nor am I willing to give up the information about the cable and DSL coverage since I paid a large sum of money for that data set. The zip code method was something that I could do on a nationwide basis without taking a huge amount of my time. It’s a start. If the industry really wants more accurate numbers I am available for hire. This is how I make a living. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com www.Broadband-Mapping.com *From:* David E. Smith [mailto:d...@mvn.net] *Sent:* Thursday, January 13, 2011 10:40 AM *To:* bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com; WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Households and population passed by the WISP industry. over 76 Million households On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 22:43, Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com wrote: A week or so ago, I ran a study of the population and households passed by principal WISPA members. Tonight I ran the numbers based on the whole national WISP coverage map you all contributed to over the last couple of years. The method for the calculation is pretty basic. For every zip code tabulation area there is a standard recognized centroid point. I took the big yellow national WISP coverage blob http://www.wirelessmapping.com/National-Coverage-Map-for-Fixed-Wireless-ISP%27s.phpand selected all of the zip code centroid points contained within it. I found a database table of households and populations for these zip code tabulation areas. The numbers are based on the 2000 census data so it’s a bit stale. Isn't this exactly why the FCC now requests counts by census tract? ZIP codes are awfully big in some places, and just because an ISP can service one person in a ZIP, doesn't guarantee they can service everyone. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Households and population passed by the WISP industry..... over 76 Million households
Every WISP who participates in their state mapping efforts should be able to get a copy of their network shape file that has been created. I have received a couple of them from various WISP's. The problem is many WISP's did not participate in their state broadband mapping efforts. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com www.Broadband-Mapping.com From: Cameron Crum [mailto:cc...@wispmon.com] Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 12:57 PM To: bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Households and population passed by the WISP industry. over 76 Million households Plus you'd have to trust that all the coverage footprints are correct...something that could be very subjective. An accurate study like what you are suggesting would be a massive undertaking to do well. I don't blame you at all for not wanting to give that away. I'm curious as to what Connected Nation is doing with all that coverage data they are producing? Shouldn't that be available since it is being funded with taxpayer money? Regards, Cameron On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com wrote: Yes they do want it by tract. The best way to study this is down to the census block. Census blocks are small geographic areas and in states like California and Illinois there are about half a million blocks. WISPA and the WISP industry has been asking for some way to quantify some sort of numbers that they can quote when talking about the WISP industry as a whole. I would LOVE to map exactly where EVERY WISP covers with their RF signal and then do a household count at the census block level. That is the most accurate. However, I don't have every WISP's RF footprint and I don't have the volunteer time to do every state separately and then add up the nation as a whole. You can't put the whole country together as one file of census blocks, it's too much data. I could do this and I also have all of the blocks covered by cable and DSL so I could tabulate the number of homes WISP's cover that those industries don't. It all takes time and I can't do that for free nor am I willing to give up the information about the cable and DSL coverage since I paid a large sum of money for that data set. The zip code method was something that I could do on a nationwide basis without taking a huge amount of my time. It's a start. If the industry really wants more accurate numbers I am available for hire. This is how I make a living. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com www.Broadband-Mapping.com From: David E. Smith [mailto:d...@mvn.net] Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 10:40 AM To: bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Households and population passed by the WISP industry. over 76 Million households On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 22:43, Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com wrote: A week or so ago, I ran a study of the population and households passed by principal WISPA members. Tonight I ran the numbers based on the whole national WISP coverage map you all contributed to over the last couple of years. The method for the calculation is pretty basic. For every zip code tabulation area there is a standard recognized centroid point. I took the big yellow national WISP coverage blob http://www.wirelessmapping.com/National-Coverage-Map-for-Fixed-Wireless-ISP% 27s.php and selected all of the zip code centroid points contained within it. I found a database table of households and populations for these zip code tabulation areas. The numbers are based on the 2000 census data so it's a bit stale. Isn't this exactly why the FCC now requests counts by census tract? ZIP codes are awfully big in some places, and just because an ISP can service one person in a ZIP, doesn't guarantee they can service everyone. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone running MT RB-750, UBNT gear doing IPv6?
Does that tunnel add overhead (cut down throughput)? I'm guessing it would have to. Greg On Jan 13, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Jon Auer wrote: I'm currently using a RB-750 with a IPv6 tunnel/delegation from he.net at home. Works fine. On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: I've got a small network with a MT RB-750 and UBNT (PS2's, NSL2's, NSLM5's, NSM5's and a BulletM2) and I'm wondering how we're going to fair if/when our upstream throws the switch on IPv6. I'd like to hear someone else is already doing it. Our upstream apparently is Hughesnet being resold in South America. I'm not sure if their system/our modem is IPv6 capable/ready. That may keep us on IPv4 and tunneled/nat'ed to IPv6 for some time. Greg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone running MT RB-750, UBNT gear doing IPv6?
It would have to, but you don't do speed tests through it - it's a free tunnel for technical testing and such. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Does that tunnel add overhead (cut down throughput)? I'm guessing it would have to. Greg On Jan 13, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Jon Auer wrote: I'm currently using a RB-750 with a IPv6 tunnel/delegation from he.net at home. Works fine. On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: I've got a small network with a MT RB-750 and UBNT (PS2's, NSL2's, NSLM5's, NSM5's and a BulletM2) and I'm wondering how we're going to fair if/when our upstream throws the switch on IPv6. I'd like to hear someone else is already doing it. Our upstream apparently is Hughesnet being resold in South America. I'm not sure if their system/our modem is IPv6 capable/ready. That may keep us on IPv4 and tunneled/nat'ed to IPv6 for some time. Greg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT user manager test
What does /system packages say. Once it is installed it will show up there. On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Not sure about that. There is a test package on the unit that was part of the all packages release and that won't load either. Its probably my lack of experience showing Jerry Richardson Sent Mobile On Jan 13, 2011, at 9:30 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I think it is x86 only? That's about it. I have it on an x86 that is running 3.teens or twenties. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Tried loading this package and nothing. Does it require a different license? Jerry Richardson Sent Mobile WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgwireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ATT1.c WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT user manager test
Bot there. That's the issue, I enable it in packages and reboot and it's still not there. Jerry Richardson Sent Mobile On Jan 13, 2011, at 10:23 AM, Mike Delp miked...@gmail.commailto:miked...@gmail.com wrote: What does /system packages say. Once it is installed it will show up there. On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Jerry Richardson mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.comjrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Not sure about that. There is a test package on the unit that was part of the all packages release and that won't load either. Its probably my lack of experience showing Jerry Richardson Sent Mobile On Jan 13, 2011, at 9:30 AM, Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.comj...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I think it is x86 only? That's about it. I have it on an x86 that is running 3.teens or twenties. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Jerry Richardson mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.comjrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Tried loading this package and nothing. Does it require a different license? Jerry Richardson Sent Mobile WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/http://signup.wispa.org/http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: mailto:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelesshttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelesshttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ATT1.c WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: mailto:wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelesshttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ATT1.c WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT user manager test
OK. Be sure you get the User Manager package that matches the ROS version Upload the User Manager package to the router's FTP server and reboot the router. Look at sys/packages, I think it should show up there. Then log into a terminal or telnet session Make sure there are no loader error messages when the terminal window starts. I would also check the log. Try /tool user-manager customer print Should give you headers and nothing else. Then do add login=admin password=Password permissions=owner and then do print and it should show you the Admin user. On 1/13/2011 12:29 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote: Read that. Doesn't really address my question. I tried several times to install the package but it's not installing The package is on the router so I disabled the standard user manager and enabled usermanager-test and rebooted. Look at installed packages it's not there. Go to /tool/print and it does not show up. Jerry Richardson Sent Mobile On Jan 13, 2011, at 9:20 AM, Scott Reed sr...@nwwnet.net mailto:sr...@nwwnet.net wrote: Start here: http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/User_Manager On 1/13/2011 12:09 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote: Tried loading this package and nothing. Does it require a different license? Jerry Richardson Sent Mobile WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net http://www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3375 - Release Date: 01/12/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT user manager test
Can you watch the console and reboot? On Jan 13, 2011 11:27 AM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Bot there. That's the issue, I enable it in packages and reboot and it's still not there. Jerry Richardson Sent Mobile On Jan 13, 2011, at 10:23 AM, Mike Delp miked...@gmail.commailto: miked...@gmail.com wrote: What does /system packages say. Once it is installed it will show up there. On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Jerry Richardson mailto: jrichard...@aircloud.comjrichard...@aircloud.commailto: jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Not sure about that. There is a test package on the unit that was part of the all packages release and that won't load either. Its probably my lack of experience showing Jerry Richardson Sent Mobile On Jan 13, 2011, at 9:30 AM, Josh Luthman mailto: j...@imaginenetworksllc.comj...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto: j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I think it is x86 only? That's about it. I have it on an x86 that is running 3.teens or twenties. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Jerry Richardson mailto: jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Tried loading this package and nothing. Does it require a different license? Jerry Richardson Sent Mobile WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/http://signup.wispa.org/ http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: mailto:wireless@wispa.org mailto: wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ATT1.c WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: mailto:wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ATT1.c WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Clarification for TDWR registration
Josh, There is clear value to the WISP industry if you register your base station locations because - 1. There is a serious interference problem to TDWRs. The FAA desperately wants to end this problem. 2. The FAA is pressuring the FCC to take action to end the problem. 3. The current "solution" is to ask WISPs to register their (base) station locations in the database. Doing so gives the FCC a visible sign to point to and to show the FAA that the problem is being resolved because, in theory, having base stations (or both ends of a point-to-point link) registered allows the FAA/FCC direction-finding enforcement teams to quickly rule out registered WISPs as the source of a problem, thus making their job of finding the actual interference source that much quicker. So even if you are staying clear of a TDWR frequency, registering still helps to show the FAA and FCC that the WISP industry is cooperating in the effort to end the TDWR interference problem. jack On 1/13/2011 7:19 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Jack, That is clear and I am practicing that. My concern was the database. Would it help to know I have nothing near those frequencies? Is it only for people operating 30-100 Mhz within a TDWR? I guess I just miss the point of the website. If operators stay away from the "bad" frequencies what's the point of the website? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com wrote: Josh, The band is 5470 to 5725. This includes the 5600-5650 part that the TDWRs use. If you are within 30 km of a TDWR, you should stay at least 30 MHz away from it (below and above). For example, if the TDWR is at 5610 then you should exclude 5580 to 5640. If you are further away but within line-of-sight of the TDWR (like on a high mountain) you should also stay 30 MHz away. Did I say that clearly? jack On 1/13/2011 6:56 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: In regards to this voluntary database: http://spectrumbridge.com/udrs/home.aspx Are you looking for anything operating in the 5.4 band or anything in the 5.x (5.2 to 5.7) band? I personally have nothing close (RF wise) to TDWR. Closest being 5715 (75 Mhz away). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Author (2003) - "Deploying License-Free Wireless Wide-Area Networks" Serving the WISP, Networking and Telecom Communities since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Author (2003) - "Deploying License-Free Wireless Wide-Area Networks" Serving the WISP, Networking and Telecom Communities since 1993
Re: [WISPA] Clarification for TDWR registration
So regarding 3 - register everything in the 5Ghz band? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com wrote: Josh, There is clear value to the WISP industry if you register your base station locations because - 1. There is a serious interference problem to TDWRs. The FAA desperately wants to end this problem. 2. The FAA is pressuring the FCC to take action to end the problem. 3. The current solution is to ask WISPs to register their (base) station locations in the database. Doing so gives the FCC a visible sign to point to and to show the FAA that the problem is being resolved because, in theory, having base stations (or both ends of a point-to-point link) registered allows the FAA/FCC direction-finding enforcement teams to quickly rule out registered WISPs as the source of a problem, thus making their job of finding the actual interference source that much quicker. So even if you are staying clear of a TDWR frequency, registering still helps to show the FAA and FCC that the WISP industry is cooperating in the effort to end the TDWR interference problem. jack On 1/13/2011 7:19 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Jack, That is clear and I am practicing that. My concern was the database. Would it help to know I have nothing near those frequencies? Is it only for people operating 30-100 Mhz within a TDWR? I guess I just miss the point of the website. If operators stay away from the bad frequencies what's the point of the website? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com wrote: Josh, The band is 5470 to 5725. This includes the 5600-5650 part that the TDWRs use. If you are within 30 km of a TDWR, you should stay at least 30 MHz away from it (below and above). For example, if the TDWR is at 5610 then you should exclude 5580 to 5640. If you are further away but within line-of-sight of the TDWR (like on a high mountain) you should also stay 30 MHz away. Did I say that clearly? jack On 1/13/2011 6:56 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: In regards to this voluntary database: http://spectrumbridge.com/udrs/home.aspx Are you looking for anything operating in the 5.4 band or anything in the 5.x (5.2 to 5.7) band? I personally have nothing close (RF wise) to TDWR. Closest being 5715 (75 Mhz away). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Author (2003) - Deploying License-Free Wireless Wide-Area Networks Serving the WISP, Networking and Telecom Communities since 1993www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Author (2003) - Deploying License-Free Wireless Wide-Area Networks Serving the WISP, Networking and Telecom Communities since 1993www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Clarification for TDWR registration
Don't register gear operating in 5725-5850. Only register gear operating in 5470-5725. On 1/13/2011 10:43 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: So regarding 3 - register everything in the 5Ghz band? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com wrote: Josh, There is clear value to the WISP industry if you register your base station locations because - 1. There is a serious interference problem to TDWRs. The FAA desperately wants to end this problem. 2. The FAA is pressuring the FCC to take action to end the problem. 3. The current "solution" is to ask WISPs to register their (base) station locations in the database. Doing so gives the FCC a visible sign to point to and to show the FAA that the problem is being resolved because, in theory, having base stations (or both ends of a point-to-point link) registered allows the FAA/FCC direction-finding enforcement teams to quickly rule out registered WISPs as the source of a problem, thus making their job of finding the actual interference source that much quicker. So even if you are staying clear of a TDWR frequency, registering still helps to show the FAA and FCC that the WISP industry is cooperating in the effort to end the TDWR interference problem. jack On 1/13/2011 7:19 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Jack, That is clear and I am practicing that. My concern was the database. Would it help to know I have nothing near those frequencies? Is it only for people operating 30-100 Mhz within a TDWR? I guess I just miss the point of the website. If operators stay away from the "bad" frequencies what's the point of the website? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com wrote: Josh, The band is 5470 to 5725. This includes the 5600-5650 part that the TDWRs use. If you are within 30 km of a TDWR, you should stay at least 30 MHz away from it (below and above). For example, if the TDWR is at 5610 then you should exclude 5580 to 5640. If you are further away but within line-of-sight of the TDWR (like on a high mountain) you should also stay 30 MHz away. Did I say that clearly? jack On 1/13/2011 6:56 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: In regards to this voluntary database: http://spectrumbridge.com/udrs/home.aspx Are you looking for anything operating in the 5.4 band or anything in the 5.x (5.2 to 5.7) band? I personally have nothing close (RF wise) to TDWR. Closest being 5715 (75 Mhz away). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Clarification for TDWR registration
Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com wrote: Don't register gear operating in 5725-5850. Only register gear operating in 5470-5725. On 1/13/2011 10:43 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: So regarding 3 - register everything in the 5Ghz band? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com wrote: Josh, There is clear value to the WISP industry if you register your base station locations because - 1. There is a serious interference problem to TDWRs. The FAA desperately wants to end this problem. 2. The FAA is pressuring the FCC to take action to end the problem. 3. The current solution is to ask WISPs to register their (base) station locations in the database. Doing so gives the FCC a visible sign to point to and to show the FAA that the problem is being resolved because, in theory, having base stations (or both ends of a point-to-point link) registered allows the FAA/FCC direction-finding enforcement teams to quickly rule out registered WISPs as the source of a problem, thus making their job of finding the actual interference source that much quicker. So even if you are staying clear of a TDWR frequency, registering still helps to show the FAA and FCC that the WISP industry is cooperating in the effort to end the TDWR interference problem. jack On 1/13/2011 7:19 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Jack, That is clear and I am practicing that. My concern was the database. Would it help to know I have nothing near those frequencies? Is it only for people operating 30-100 Mhz within a TDWR? I guess I just miss the point of the website. If operators stay away from the bad frequencies what's the point of the website? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com wrote: Josh, The band is 5470 to 5725. This includes the 5600-5650 part that the TDWRs use. If you are within 30 km of a TDWR, you should stay at least 30 MHz away from it (below and above). For example, if the TDWR is at 5610 then you should exclude 5580 to 5640. If you are further away but within line-of-sight of the TDWR (like on a high mountain) you should also stay 30 MHz away. Did I say that clearly? jack On 1/13/2011 6:56 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: In regards to this voluntary database: http://spectrumbridge.com/udrs/home.aspx Are you looking for anything operating in the 5.4 band or anything in the 5.x (5.2 to 5.7) band? I personally have nothing close (RF wise) to TDWR. Closest being 5715 (75 Mhz away). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Author (2003) - Deploying License-Free Wireless Wide-Area Networks Serving the WISP, Networking and Telecom Communities since 1993www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Author (2003) - Deploying License-Free Wireless Wide-Area Networks Serving the WISP, Networking and Telecom Communities since 1993www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
Re: [WISPA] Anyone running MT RB-750, UBNT gear doing IPv6?
At 1/13/2011 11:59 AM, you wrote: I've got a small network with a MT RB-750 and UBNT (PS2's, NSL2's, NSLM5's, NSM5's and a BulletM2) and I'm wondering how we're going to fair if/when our upstream throws the switch on IPv6. I'd like to hear someone else is already doing it. Our upstream apparently is Hughesnet being resold in South America. I'm not sure if their system/our modem is IPv6 capable/ready. That may keep us on IPv4 and tunneled/nat'ed to IPv6 for some time. Personal opinion: IPv6 is worth less than the paper its RFC is printed on. Ignore it and it will go away. Really. I am very concerned being that only 2 percent of the IPv4 pool remains. http://ipv6.he.net/statistics/ In a few months we may not be able to get more IPv4 space. What then? NAT everyone? Ugh, with thousands of custommers thats an ugly proposition. How do you track down abuse, subpoena issues and so many other things... That's Y2K redux, a fear campaign. HE in particular is trying to use it as a differentiator. What is running out is virgin, never-before-assigned IPv4 space. It is like the land offices in the homestead era. Eventually they ran out of land. Yet farming continued. IPv4 addresses were initially handed out very inefficiently. There are many owners of blocks that are larger than needed. If you are qualified for a block, you are qualified to buy a block from someone who already has one. A market will happen, and I don't think it will be very expensive. Nor am I too concerned about NAT. NAT only breaks broken applications. Public servers need public addresses, but the mass market user doesn't. (Inability to handle subpoenas may be seen as an advantage...) Check out the Pouzin Society for an alternative. I've got some more on this on my web site. If one of your subscribers really needs to reach something only accessible via IPv6, they can tunnel out. But since there is no compatibility, the transition plan requires dual stack. So everything runs v4 until everybody is on v6. But since there's always more on v4 (everybody) than on v6 (those who have added the dual stack), there's no incentive for users to move to v4. The only benefit is to some ISPs, not to users. So users have little reason to move. (Sometimes users are smarter than some ISPs.) Plus v6 is an abomination, a misdesign of immense proportions, so you shouldn't buy into Cisco's fantasies. -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone running MT RB-750, UBNT gear doing IPv6?
Well, yes, due to the tunnel encapsulation you have less MTU headroom so you move less data in each packet so you need more packets to transfer the same amount of data (assuming the data is larger than the packet size). It has not been noticeable. I just hit up the Google and Facebook IPv6 sites from time to time. No online backup or SCP transfers. On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Does that tunnel add overhead (cut down throughput)? I'm guessing it would have to. Greg On Jan 13, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Jon Auer wrote: I'm currently using a RB-750 with a IPv6 tunnel/delegation from he.net at home. Works fine. On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: I've got a small network with a MT RB-750 and UBNT (PS2's, NSL2's, NSLM5's, NSM5's and a BulletM2) and I'm wondering how we're going to fair if/when our upstream throws the switch on IPv6. I'd like to hear someone else is already doing it. Our upstream apparently is Hughesnet being resold in South America. I'm not sure if their system/our modem is IPv6 capable/ready. That may keep us on IPv4 and tunneled/nat'ed to IPv6 for some time. Greg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone running MT RB-750, UBNT gear doing IPv6?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Don't feed the trolls. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJNL038AAoJEMvvG/TyLEAt4vsQALY+GnQXl8lfEUh/OBVqOdpi ys+fFVNeCotsgrS18XfmojJiQGoSsRJ9NEvlAqZpU074SeaY7G3pcG8ltYHz7pV3 Q/g28bgAOqxrAU9RgvRaIFQu1gYnatzwtJcMXAE4aqUi2J6bPnq7mhV9fZtm2H3v loUEi54hQknRC4YEKGJSUNtniF1Ry1AKqbWr/FL6k8TgvNLZq3a+PEKJCnquUgW5 1Wag/Uh4+pKyzeoFPrYaRhsCCME8YDM7ca+ypL7kaYcKr/essmCaElONn8l3kZ23 g7bKDq4enfpnDHywImiVajn4ZR6lk09TKUjfjy9i+h+qXCC4VD5jU4J4zVe2pXPM jloNlTn37g3un0+BdVQ4AwCAoRiWRor+64bHhNVfJUL/7OG3CTUZuLKlVGbYMh8A SHDNQ0Izbl6Ezky3o91sMXCy/yVyTniOZFQY27Nr4XGn068Sh7yh8qE57VcSH7HC V19W3Ov1qaSqoBYy5NAIia/leyEHbG9zGhI/r1ETYJsJEgO+9BMZB6dA+AV1CqM5 fFvwpwTk+xuGQttSJ+HpVgwDDFE5In/NF/3AF8V8mGWAfF6z6mjJNHvtute0fnCR v7iXSvMS+qBS6xbXMZnuDDH//doB+IlKNKwdug9Nv0dPHvuQq1HotrzDqIw9t7QF qhtMvXcinPOHgHeiR3g2 =aZoA -END PGP SIGNATURE- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT user manager test
User Manager runs under ROS, so any platform ROS runs on, User Manager will as well. On 1/13/2011 12:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I think it is x86 only? That's about it. I have it on an x86 that is running 3.teens or twenties. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Tried loading this package and nothing. Does it require a different license? Jerry Richardson Sent Mobile WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone running MT RB-750, UBNT gear doing IPv6?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/13/2011 07:00 AM, Greg Ihnen wrote: I've got a small network with a MT RB-750 and UBNT (PS2's, NSL2's, NSLM5's, NSM5's and a BulletM2) and I'm wondering how we're going to fair if/when our upstream throws the switch on IPv6. I'd like to hear someone else is already doing it. Interesting question. I'm hoping to provide ipv6 on my network very soon. Currently only handing out ipv4. I have my ubnt ns2 working as a hotspot on my roof. It bridges to my wired network (cisco l2 switch and pfsense box). On it's own VLAN of course. So do I care about ubnt supporting ipv6? Will it not work in bridge mode? I need to turn on v6 on the pfsense side, via an he.net tunnel with prefix delegation and find out. Anyone done this? On whatever l3 termination of choice (pfsense/cisco/linux/mikrotik). Our upstream apparently is Hughesnet being resold in South America. I'm not sure if their system/our modem is IPv6 capable/ready. That may keep us on IPv4 and tunneled/nat'ed to IPv6 for some time. Greg - -- Charles N Wyble (char...@knownelement.com) Systems craftsman for the stars http://www.knownelement.com Mobile: 626 539 4344 Office: 310 929 8793 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJNL1LyAAoJEMvvG/TyLEAt2QkP/31PZuaL5xY3f3QDt0/2eSkg 03pKgN5OJM9THHIjchyFQJuAwzoxc6g8CsqbfNQEWNaOqpgwSWPLJXv9YaJZ8KKK xxYeX70fsLTU1jYKVjbHE+vA+Hwq2VjgecDLrzI1m7/tIbUdHWlWscKYr65l6IJR Bd8pVRwokbvdr7XvOIeBL77cAC5DPzpFayP/YWZBGpOM2JT4BU5R3cru4KZSIswN IjGY64Ofc7YW5PIvQasDvSLTGikKj5hhCoKhALrHoazGy2oevBWZ1E86LvxbTJ04 JPIof8WihpKA/VJQAfo+7UirXAQnpGfb4O6FAiPrhlfR61Z5hPGxMbpVPTZhS+Vx PXR1+X+m2UJicdAs+O+bhN3BBRgaXb4Fj9fituyQW/2UcGvyD/iiAiWg9u2nDdfY muQ8lv/nx0wC8e5VscZ9cBMKkh7l2Z6QkKhfwrcyfwLFVG6KGTvpoNDYAU1UGTGU u1Zb7Gbht3awn18yu4693HWu5PCYEKJ4Sl29ew1avRpf80pFDzXyNnJ+YSjuo159 ZbUYTbKlFYOrdxK2k2lxe4sCOSRq0/B0n3y3Z4ummkyKlTJnnVQpz0rozus3fteT t+q2tJxkIJ61aAPUrcq3kl6UAc+KZ+SjHKeZwtbFt3J1gbFoHG3izdDOUrZaF4zW TLZ9++N8yZOW8Pko9Xb3 =i8uH -END PGP SIGNATURE- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT user manager test
I was fooling with this the other day on a RB433. I believe this package adds functionality to Radius. That's where the installation actually occurs. I'm fed up with static addressing and am starting to use DHCP all over our (small) system. I think I can get radius to work under these circumstances, but I didn't pursue it at the moment. It's still installed, however, but there's no separate menu item. Alan Clayson On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 14:11:22 -0500, you wrote: User Manager runs under ROS, so any platform ROS runs on, User Manager will as well. On 1/13/2011 12:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I think it is x86 only? That's about it. I have it on an x86 that is running 3.teens or twenties. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Tried loading this package and nothing. Does it require a different license? Jerry Richardson Sent Mobile WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone running MT RB-750, UBNT gear doing IPv6?
At 1/13/2011 02:09 PM, Charles Wyble wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Don't feed the trolls. Who are you calling a troll, oh young whippersnapper? -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT user manager test
User manager has a seperate web interface. It does not show up in any Winbox menus. You could access some of it via the command line. On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Alan Clayson a...@sover.net wrote: I was fooling with this the other day on a RB433. I believe this package adds functionality to Radius. That's where the installation actually occurs. I'm fed up with static addressing and am starting to use DHCP all over our (small) system. I think I can get radius to work under these circumstances, but I didn't pursue it at the moment. It's still installed, however, but there's no separate menu item. Alan Clayson On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 14:11:22 -0500, you wrote: User Manager runs under ROS, so any platform ROS runs on, User Manager will as well. On 1/13/2011 12:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I think it is x86 only? That's about it. I have it on an x86 that is running 3.teens or twenties. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Tried loading this package and nothing. Does it require a different license? Jerry Richardson Sent Mobile WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone running MT RB-750, UBNT gear doing IPv6?
Sure Ubnt in bridge mode works fine. We still need native v6 support. On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Charles N Wyble char...@knownelement.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/13/2011 07:00 AM, Greg Ihnen wrote: I've got a small network with a MT RB-750 and UBNT (PS2's, NSL2's, NSLM5's, NSM5's and a BulletM2) and I'm wondering how we're going to fair if/when our upstream throws the switch on IPv6. I'd like to hear someone else is already doing it. Interesting question. I'm hoping to provide ipv6 on my network very soon. Currently only handing out ipv4. I have my ubnt ns2 working as a hotspot on my roof. It bridges to my wired network (cisco l2 switch and pfsense box). On it's own VLAN of course. So do I care about ubnt supporting ipv6? Will it not work in bridge mode? I need to turn on v6 on the pfsense side, via an he.net tunnel with prefix delegation and find out. Anyone done this? On whatever l3 termination of choice (pfsense/cisco/linux/mikrotik). Our upstream apparently is Hughesnet being resold in South America. I'm not sure if their system/our modem is IPv6 capable/ready. That may keep us on IPv4 and tunneled/nat'ed to IPv6 for some time. Greg - -- Charles N Wyble (char...@knownelement.com) Systems craftsman for the stars http://www.knownelement.com Mobile: 626 539 4344 Office: 310 929 8793 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJNL1LyAAoJEMvvG/TyLEAt2QkP/31PZuaL5xY3f3QDt0/2eSkg 03pKgN5OJM9THHIjchyFQJuAwzoxc6g8CsqbfNQEWNaOqpgwSWPLJXv9YaJZ8KKK xxYeX70fsLTU1jYKVjbHE+vA+Hwq2VjgecDLrzI1m7/tIbUdHWlWscKYr65l6IJR Bd8pVRwokbvdr7XvOIeBL77cAC5DPzpFayP/YWZBGpOM2JT4BU5R3cru4KZSIswN IjGY64Ofc7YW5PIvQasDvSLTGikKj5hhCoKhALrHoazGy2oevBWZ1E86LvxbTJ04 JPIof8WihpKA/VJQAfo+7UirXAQnpGfb4O6FAiPrhlfR61Z5hPGxMbpVPTZhS+Vx PXR1+X+m2UJicdAs+O+bhN3BBRgaXb4Fj9fituyQW/2UcGvyD/iiAiWg9u2nDdfY muQ8lv/nx0wC8e5VscZ9cBMKkh7l2Z6QkKhfwrcyfwLFVG6KGTvpoNDYAU1UGTGU u1Zb7Gbht3awn18yu4693HWu5PCYEKJ4Sl29ew1avRpf80pFDzXyNnJ+YSjuo159 ZbUYTbKlFYOrdxK2k2lxe4sCOSRq0/B0n3y3Z4ummkyKlTJnnVQpz0rozus3fteT t+q2tJxkIJ61aAPUrcq3kl6UAc+KZ+SjHKeZwtbFt3J1gbFoHG3izdDOUrZaF4zW TLZ9++N8yZOW8Pko9Xb3 =i8uH -END PGP SIGNATURE- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone running MT RB-750, UBNT gear doing IPv6?
Have you actually tested that? I ask because I expect it to work, too, but haven't actually done it myself. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.netwrote: Sure Ubnt in bridge mode works fine. We still need native v6 support. On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Charles N Wyble char...@knownelement.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/13/2011 07:00 AM, Greg Ihnen wrote: I've got a small network with a MT RB-750 and UBNT (PS2's, NSL2's, NSLM5's, NSM5's and a BulletM2) and I'm wondering how we're going to fair if/when our upstream throws the switch on IPv6. I'd like to hear someone else is already doing it. Interesting question. I'm hoping to provide ipv6 on my network very soon. Currently only handing out ipv4. I have my ubnt ns2 working as a hotspot on my roof. It bridges to my wired network (cisco l2 switch and pfsense box). On it's own VLAN of course. So do I care about ubnt supporting ipv6? Will it not work in bridge mode? I need to turn on v6 on the pfsense side, via an he.net tunnel with prefix delegation and find out. Anyone done this? On whatever l3 termination of choice (pfsense/cisco/linux/mikrotik). Our upstream apparently is Hughesnet being resold in South America. I'm not sure if their system/our modem is IPv6 capable/ready. That may keep us on IPv4 and tunneled/nat'ed to IPv6 for some time. Greg - -- Charles N Wyble (char...@knownelement.com) Systems craftsman for the stars http://www.knownelement.com Mobile: 626 539 4344 Office: 310 929 8793 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJNL1LyAAoJEMvvG/TyLEAt2QkP/31PZuaL5xY3f3QDt0/2eSkg 03pKgN5OJM9THHIjchyFQJuAwzoxc6g8CsqbfNQEWNaOqpgwSWPLJXv9YaJZ8KKK xxYeX70fsLTU1jYKVjbHE+vA+Hwq2VjgecDLrzI1m7/tIbUdHWlWscKYr65l6IJR Bd8pVRwokbvdr7XvOIeBL77cAC5DPzpFayP/YWZBGpOM2JT4BU5R3cru4KZSIswN IjGY64Ofc7YW5PIvQasDvSLTGikKj5hhCoKhALrHoazGy2oevBWZ1E86LvxbTJ04 JPIof8WihpKA/VJQAfo+7UirXAQnpGfb4O6FAiPrhlfR61Z5hPGxMbpVPTZhS+Vx PXR1+X+m2UJicdAs+O+bhN3BBRgaXb4Fj9fituyQW/2UcGvyD/iiAiWg9u2nDdfY muQ8lv/nx0wC8e5VscZ9cBMKkh7l2Z6QkKhfwrcyfwLFVG6KGTvpoNDYAU1UGTGU u1Zb7Gbht3awn18yu4693HWu5PCYEKJ4Sl29ew1avRpf80pFDzXyNnJ+YSjuo159 ZbUYTbKlFYOrdxK2k2lxe4sCOSRq0/B0n3y3Z4ummkyKlTJnnVQpz0rozus3fteT t+q2tJxkIJ61aAPUrcq3kl6UAc+KZ+SjHKeZwtbFt3J1gbFoHG3izdDOUrZaF4zW TLZ9++N8yZOW8Pko9Xb3 =i8uH -END PGP SIGNATURE- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 11Ghz Licensing Warning Question
At 1/13/2011 02:40 PM, Michael Mulcay wrote: ... The FCC committee was correct as spectrum is the life blood of all WISPs and conservation of spectrum is absolutely essential. Of course. I read your presentation, and some of the Reply Comments and other parties' views. So please take my criticism as constructive. You shot yourself in the foot with your opening pages. The whole routine about obstructionism, and the stories about cars being disassembled near animals, serves to alienate you from the skilled technical people at the FCC who have to make these decisions. Part 101 is not as politically charged as, say, Part 51. Your story could easily be construed as an insult. In fact it is hard to construe it otherwise. This doesn't win cases. (Do you see this as being how it's taken? Aw, he called me a name. I guess I'll have to adopt his position, so he doesn't call me a name again.) FCC submissions, including WISPAs, are normally very diplomatic. Second, your repeated references to millions of paths being lost are clearly hyperbole. Yes, technically, there could be a zillion paths, but the demand for any one of those paths is miniscule. The only ones that matter are the ones that people will use. There are essentially three types of path. Fixed point-to-point paths, fixed point-to-multipoint, and mobile. Part 101 is about the first category. WISPs usually deal in the second. CMRS is about the third. Auxiliary stations are essentially a way to turn Part 101 into what it isn't, fixed point-to-multipoint. Now I *do* agree that the FCC has set aside too little spectrum below 28 GHz for that purpose. IIRC there was once a 10 GHz allocation, based on the 1980ish Petition of Xerox for what they were planning to call XTEN but abandoned. This was called Digital Termination Systems and I don't know if any such licensing still exists, but it was narrowband. I have a slide set here from 1982 from a company (LDD) that was building a 10 GHz DTS PtMP system called RAPAC, which shared technology with their other product, the CAPAC -- probably the first cable modem! But they tanked. I think the MMDS-BRS band is authorized for PtMP, but licensed/auctioned, making it inaccessible. So I do see the need. But Part 101 is all about using conventional means (narrow beams, narrow bands) to squeeze in as many PtP users as possible via coordination, not auctions. It works pretty well. As some of the Reply Comments noted, the alleged keyhole for auxiliary stations doesn't really exist very often; with high-performance (good F/B ratio) antennas and modest transmitter power (70 dBm EIRP, 1 W TPO), back-to-back stations can coexist. But TDD and FDD also risk compatibility problems, and most of Part 101 is FDD, while your proposal is TDD. So it might make more sense to push for more spectrum elsewhere, rather than use self-defeating hyperbole to fight Part 101 interests head-on. -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] {THREAD CLOSED] Meeting today with Connected Nation........
There will be no more of this. Rick Harnish Executive Director WISPA 260-307-4000 cell 866-317-2851 WISPA Office Skype: rick.harnish. rharn...@wispa.org From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 11:00 PM To: bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Meeting today with Connected Nation I loved this little presentation... We offer a program that will educate and encourage people to use broadband internet! So I say, Uh They kinda need broadband internet available to them first, don't they? Anyhow, it was a meeting that really had no place for them yet they came in with all guns blazing. After we got them all to shut the heck up we got some real work done. Without them. *Sigh* From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brian Webster Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 10:53 PM To: 'Robert West'; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Meeting today with Connected Nation Whaaa whhhaat want wannnt waannnt waa J From: Robert West [mailto:robert.w...@just-micro.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 10:51 PM To: bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com; 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Meeting today with Connected Nation You remember the teacher in the Charlie Brown (Sponsored by Dolly Madison Cakes) Specials? It was kinda like that. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brian Webster Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 10:48 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Meeting today with Connected Nation So do tell, what did they have to say? Thank You, Brian Webster 214 Eggleston Hill Rd. Cooperstown, NY 13326 (607) 643-4055 Office (607) 435-3988 Mobile (208) 692-1898 Fax Skype: Radiowebst www.wirelessmapping.com www.Broadband-Mapping.com From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 10:39 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Meeting today with Connected Nation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6cvnhPh6jo Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. 740-335-7020 Cell 937-903-1286 Affordable Internet For Everyone! image001.png WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone running MT RB-750, UBNT gear doing IPv6?
Yes I have. All my AP's are AP-WDS and all clients are WDS with a router behind it. v6 works fine. On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Have you actually tested that? I ask because I expect it to work, too, but haven't actually done it myself. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: Sure Ubnt in bridge mode works fine. We still need native v6 support. On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Charles N Wyble char...@knownelement.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/13/2011 07:00 AM, Greg Ihnen wrote: I've got a small network with a MT RB-750 and UBNT (PS2's, NSL2's, NSLM5's, NSM5's and a BulletM2) and I'm wondering how we're going to fair if/when our upstream throws the switch on IPv6. I'd like to hear someone else is already doing it. Interesting question. I'm hoping to provide ipv6 on my network very soon. Currently only handing out ipv4. I have my ubnt ns2 working as a hotspot on my roof. It bridges to my wired network (cisco l2 switch and pfsense box). On it's own VLAN of course. So do I care about ubnt supporting ipv6? Will it not work in bridge mode? I need to turn on v6 on the pfsense side, via an he.net tunnel with prefix delegation and find out. Anyone done this? On whatever l3 termination of choice (pfsense/cisco/linux/mikrotik). Our upstream apparently is Hughesnet being resold in South America. I'm not sure if their system/our modem is IPv6 capable/ready. That may keep us on IPv4 and tunneled/nat'ed to IPv6 for some time. Greg - -- Charles N Wyble (char...@knownelement.com) Systems craftsman for the stars http://www.knownelement.com Mobile: 626 539 4344 Office: 310 929 8793 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJNL1LyAAoJEMvvG/TyLEAt2QkP/31PZuaL5xY3f3QDt0/2eSkg 03pKgN5OJM9THHIjchyFQJuAwzoxc6g8CsqbfNQEWNaOqpgwSWPLJXv9YaJZ8KKK xxYeX70fsLTU1jYKVjbHE+vA+Hwq2VjgecDLrzI1m7/tIbUdHWlWscKYr65l6IJR Bd8pVRwokbvdr7XvOIeBL77cAC5DPzpFayP/YWZBGpOM2JT4BU5R3cru4KZSIswN IjGY64Ofc7YW5PIvQasDvSLTGikKj5hhCoKhALrHoazGy2oevBWZ1E86LvxbTJ04 JPIof8WihpKA/VJQAfo+7UirXAQnpGfb4O6FAiPrhlfR61Z5hPGxMbpVPTZhS+Vx PXR1+X+m2UJicdAs+O+bhN3BBRgaXb4Fj9fituyQW/2UcGvyD/iiAiWg9u2nDdfY muQ8lv/nx0wC8e5VscZ9cBMKkh7l2Z6QkKhfwrcyfwLFVG6KGTvpoNDYAU1UGTGU u1Zb7Gbht3awn18yu4693HWu5PCYEKJ4Sl29ew1avRpf80pFDzXyNnJ+YSjuo159 ZbUYTbKlFYOrdxK2k2lxe4sCOSRq0/B0n3y3Z4ummkyKlTJnnVQpz0rozus3fteT t+q2tJxkIJ61aAPUrcq3kl6UAc+KZ+SjHKeZwtbFt3J1gbFoHG3izdDOUrZaF4zW TLZ9++N8yZOW8Pko9Xb3 =i8uH -END PGP SIGNATURE- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone running MT RB-750, UBNT gear doing IPv6?
Awesome, appreciate the confirmation. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 4:48 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.netwrote: Yes I have. All my AP's are AP-WDS and all clients are WDS with a router behind it. v6 works fine. On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Have you actually tested that? I ask because I expect it to work, too, but haven't actually done it myself. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: Sure Ubnt in bridge mode works fine. We still need native v6 support. On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Charles N Wyble char...@knownelement.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/13/2011 07:00 AM, Greg Ihnen wrote: I've got a small network with a MT RB-750 and UBNT (PS2's, NSL2's, NSLM5's, NSM5's and a BulletM2) and I'm wondering how we're going to fair if/when our upstream throws the switch on IPv6. I'd like to hear someone else is already doing it. Interesting question. I'm hoping to provide ipv6 on my network very soon. Currently only handing out ipv4. I have my ubnt ns2 working as a hotspot on my roof. It bridges to my wired network (cisco l2 switch and pfsense box). On it's own VLAN of course. So do I care about ubnt supporting ipv6? Will it not work in bridge mode? I need to turn on v6 on the pfsense side, via an he.net tunnel with prefix delegation and find out. Anyone done this? On whatever l3 termination of choice (pfsense/cisco/linux/mikrotik). Our upstream apparently is Hughesnet being resold in South America. I'm not sure if their system/our modem is IPv6 capable/ready. That may keep us on IPv4 and tunneled/nat'ed to IPv6 for some time. Greg - -- Charles N Wyble (char...@knownelement.com) Systems craftsman for the stars http://www.knownelement.com Mobile: 626 539 4344 Office: 310 929 8793 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJNL1LyAAoJEMvvG/TyLEAt2QkP/31PZuaL5xY3f3QDt0/2eSkg 03pKgN5OJM9THHIjchyFQJuAwzoxc6g8CsqbfNQEWNaOqpgwSWPLJXv9YaJZ8KKK xxYeX70fsLTU1jYKVjbHE+vA+Hwq2VjgecDLrzI1m7/tIbUdHWlWscKYr65l6IJR Bd8pVRwokbvdr7XvOIeBL77cAC5DPzpFayP/YWZBGpOM2JT4BU5R3cru4KZSIswN IjGY64Ofc7YW5PIvQasDvSLTGikKj5hhCoKhALrHoazGy2oevBWZ1E86LvxbTJ04 JPIof8WihpKA/VJQAfo+7UirXAQnpGfb4O6FAiPrhlfR61Z5hPGxMbpVPTZhS+Vx PXR1+X+m2UJicdAs+O+bhN3BBRgaXb4Fj9fituyQW/2UcGvyD/iiAiWg9u2nDdfY muQ8lv/nx0wC8e5VscZ9cBMKkh7l2Z6QkKhfwrcyfwLFVG6KGTvpoNDYAU1UGTGU u1Zb7Gbht3awn18yu4693HWu5PCYEKJ4Sl29ew1avRpf80pFDzXyNnJ+YSjuo159 ZbUYTbKlFYOrdxK2k2lxe4sCOSRq0/B0n3y3Z4ummkyKlTJnnVQpz0rozus3fteT t+q2tJxkIJ61aAPUrcq3kl6UAc+KZ+SjHKeZwtbFt3J1gbFoHG3izdDOUrZaF4zW TLZ9++N8yZOW8Pko9Xb3 =i8uH -END PGP SIGNATURE- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
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Re: [WISPA] Anyone running MT RB-750, UBNT gear doing IPv6?
Any Mikrotik routers in the mix? Greg On Jan 13, 2011, at 5:18 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: Yes I have. All my AP's are AP-WDS and all clients are WDS with a router behind it. v6 works fine. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone running MT RB-750, UBNT gear doing IPv6?
The RC for v5 just added a lot of IPv6 stuff. No more then a few weeks old. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Any Mikrotik routers in the mix? Greg On Jan 13, 2011, at 5:18 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: Yes I have. All my AP's are AP-WDS and all clients are WDS with a router behind it. v6 works fine. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone running MT RB-750, UBNT gear doing IPv6?
Yeah, I'm running RC7, but in an IPv4 network. I'd like to hear how it's doing with IPv6. Greg On Jan 13, 2011, at 6:58 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: The RC for v5 just added a lot of IPv6 stuff. No more then a few weeks old. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone running MT RB-750, UBNT gear doing IPv6?
Sounds like you're already beta testing with RC7. Can't you just tack on an he.net tunnel? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, I'm running RC7, but in an IPv4 network. I'd like to hear how it's doing with IPv6. Greg On Jan 13, 2011, at 6:58 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: The RC for v5 just added a lot of IPv6 stuff. No more then a few weeks old. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone running MT RB-750, UBNT gear doing IPv6?
Yeah, I could but this is a production network, and we're in the Amazon, and the network is our only comms, and it's a satellite 512k/128k connection, and we try to do Skype, and with the lack of bandwidth and high latency and jitter it's already iffy. I'm afraid to add the HE tunnel into the mix (though I have already set up an account some time ago). Maybe I'll try it when nobody is looking. And if things go wrong I can always blame the ISP. : - ) Greg On Jan 13, 2011, at 7:03 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Sounds like you're already beta testing with RC7. Can't you just tack on an he.net tunnel? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone running MT RB-750, UBNT gear doing IPv6?
IPv6 on top of v4 won't change the way v4 runs. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, I could but this is a production network, and we're in the Amazon, and the network is our only comms, and it's a satellite 512k/128k connection, and we try to do Skype, and with the lack of bandwidth and high latency and jitter it's already iffy. I'm afraid to add the HE tunnel into the mix (though I have already set up an account some time ago). Maybe I'll try it when nobody is looking. And if things go wrong I can always blame the ISP. : - ) Greg On Jan 13, 2011, at 7:03 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Sounds like you're already beta testing with RC7. Can't you just tack on an he.net tunnel? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone running MT RB-750, UBNT gear doing IPv6?
But even 3.30 supports enough v6 for it to work. I have a working tunnel to HE via 5.0rc5 that is working well. I suppose it is time to upgrade that one. On 1/13/2011 6:28 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: The RC for v5 just added a lot of IPv6 stuff. No more then a few weeks old. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com mailto:os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Any Mikrotik routers in the mix? Greg On Jan 13, 2011, at 5:18 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: Yes I have. All my AP's are AP-WDS and all clients are WDS with a router behind it. v6 works fine. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone running MT RB-750, UBNT gear doing IPv6?
Just testing you. No, really. Thanks Greg On Jan 13, 2011, at 7:09 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: IPv6 on top of v4 won't change the way v4 runs. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone running MT RB-750, UBNT gear doing IPv6?
To route? Or are you referring to bridge? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Scott Reed sr...@nwwnet.net wrote: But even 3.30 supports enough v6 for it to work. I have a working tunnel to HE via 5.0rc5 that is working well. I suppose it is time to upgrade that one. On 1/13/2011 6:28 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: The RC for v5 just added a lot of IPv6 stuff. No more then a few weeks old. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Any Mikrotik routers in the mix? Greg On Jan 13, 2011, at 5:18 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: Yes I have. All my AP's are AP-WDS and all clients are WDS with a router behind it. v6 works fine. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone running MT RB-750, UBNT gear doing IPv6?
Depending on how full his pipe already is, I'd be concerned with overhead as a percentage of a full pipe. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/13/2011 5:39 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: IPv6 on top of v4 won't change the way v4 runs. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com mailto:os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, I could but this is a production network, and we're in the Amazon, and the network is our only comms, and it's a satellite 512k/128k connection, and we try to do Skype, and with the lack of bandwidth and high latency and jitter it's already iffy. I'm afraid to add the HE tunnel into the mix (though I have already set up an account some time ago). Maybe I'll try it when nobody is looking. And if things go wrong I can always blame the ISP. : - ) Greg On Jan 13, 2011, at 7:03 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Sounds like you're already beta testing with RC7. Can't you just tack on an he.net http://he.net/ tunnel? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone running MT RB-750, UBNT gear doing IPv6?
My point is that you're a step away from accomplishing what you're asking others for at no consequence. I apologize if I offended you. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Just testing you. No, really. Thanks Greg On Jan 13, 2011, at 7:09 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: IPv6 on top of v4 won't change the way v4 runs. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone running MT RB-750, UBNT gear doing IPv6?
No, I'm not offended at all. I appreciate your comments and the privilege of being in the forum. When I read what you wrote about how the HE tunnel is IPv4 as far as the MT router is concerned (that had escaped me). But I still would be interested to know if others are doing true IPv6 through the MT RB750/RB450. Greg On Jan 13, 2011, at 7:17 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: My point is that you're a step away from accomplishing what you're asking others for at no consequence. I apologize if I offended you. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone running MT RB-750, UBNT gear doing IPv6?
When did they add on IPv6? I see on some of my 4.x routers I see VERY simple services - IP discovery, addresses and routes. I think the only real way to deploy ipv6 with MT is on rc7. You're the only brave soul I know of. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 6:54 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: No, I'm not offended at all. I appreciate your comments and the privilege of being in the forum. When I read what you wrote about how the HE tunnel is IPv4 as far as the MT router is concerned (that had escaped me). But I still would be interested to know if others are doing true IPv6 through the MT RB750/RB450. Greg On Jan 13, 2011, at 7:17 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: My point is that you're a step away from accomplishing what you're asking others for at no consequence. I apologize if I offended you. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone running MT RB-750, UBNT gear doing IPv6?
Yea, all the core routers are MT 3.30 and up. On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Any Mikrotik routers in the mix? Greg On Jan 13, 2011, at 5:18 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: Yes I have. All my AP's are AP-WDS and all clients are WDS with a router behind it. v6 works fine. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone running MT RB-750, UBNT gear doing IPv6?
I ran across this subtle caveat today in the MT wiki... http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Interface/Wireless Note: Currently IPv6 doesn't work over Pseudobridge -Kristian On Thu, 2011-01-13 at 16:49 -0500, Josh Luthman wrote: Awesome, appreciate the confirmation. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 4:48 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: Yes I have. All my AP's are AP-WDS and all clients are WDS with a router behind it. v6 works fine. On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Have you actually tested that? I ask because I expect it to work, too, but haven't actually done it myself. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: Sure Ubnt in bridge mode works fine. We still need native v6 support. On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Charles N Wyble char...@knownelement.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/13/2011 07:00 AM, Greg Ihnen wrote: I've got a small network with a MT RB-750 and UBNT (PS2's, NSL2's, NSLM5's, NSM5's and a BulletM2) and I'm wondering how we're going to fair if/when our upstream throws the switch on IPv6. I'd like to hear someone else is already doing it. Interesting question. I'm hoping to provide ipv6 on my network very soon. Currently only handing out ipv4. I have my ubnt ns2 working as a hotspot on my roof. It bridges to my wired network (cisco l2 switch and pfsense box). On it's own VLAN of course. So do I care about ubnt supporting ipv6? Will it not work in bridge mode? I need to turn on v6 on the pfsense side, via an he.net tunnel with prefix delegation and find out. Anyone done this? On whatever l3 termination of choice (pfsense/cisco/linux/mikrotik). Our upstream apparently is Hughesnet being resold in South America. I'm not sure if their system/our modem is IPv6 capable/ready. That may keep us on IPv4 and tunneled/nat'ed to IPv6 for some time. Greg - -- Charles N Wyble (char...@knownelement.com) Systems craftsman for the stars http://www.knownelement.com Mobile: 626 539 4344 Office: 310 929 8793 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJNL1LyAAoJEMvvG/TyLEAt2QkP/31PZuaL5xY3f3QDt0/2eSkg 03pKgN5OJM9THHIjchyFQJuAwzoxc6g8CsqbfNQEWNaOqpgwSWPLJXv9YaJZ8KKK xxYeX70fsLTU1jYKVjbHE+vA +Hwq2VjgecDLrzI1m7/tIbUdHWlWscKYr65l6IJR Bd8pVRwokbvdr7XvOIeBL77cAC5DPzpFayP/YWZBGpOM2JT4BU5R3cru4KZSIswN IjGY64Ofc7YW5PIvQasDvSLTGikKj5hhCoKhALrHoazGy2oevBWZ1E86LvxbTJ04 JPIof8WihpKA/VJQAfo +7UirXAQnpGfb4O6FAiPrhlfR61Z5hPGxMbpVPTZhS+Vx PXR1+X+m2UJicdAs+O +bhN3BBRgaXb4Fj9fituyQW/2UcGvyD/iiAiWg9u2nDdfY muQ8lv/nx0wC8e5VscZ9cBMKkh7l2Z6QkKhfwrcyfwLFVG6KGTvpoNDYAU1UGTGU u1Zb7Gbht3awn18yu4693HWu5PCYEKJ4Sl29ew1avRpf80pFDzXyNnJ +YSjuo159 ZbUYTbKlFYOrdxK2k2lxe4sCOSRq0/B0n3y3Z4ummkyKlTJnnVQpz0rozus3fteT t+q2tJxkIJ61aAPUrcq3kl6UAc+KZ +SjHKeZwtbFt3J1gbFoHG3izdDOUrZaF4zW TLZ9++N8yZOW8Pko9Xb3 =i8uH -END PGP SIGNATURE- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA
Re: [WISPA] MT user manager test
You have to uninstall the standard usermanager package, and enable the test package. But it was a waste of time. The whole point was to be able to modify the user signup page. anyone know how to crack RouterOS to access the user signup page? I really want our own logo there. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Delp Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 12:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT user manager test User manager has a seperate web interface. It does not show up in any Winbox menus. You could access some of it via the command line. On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Alan Clayson a...@sover.netmailto:a...@sover.net wrote: I was fooling with this the other day on a RB433. I believe this package adds functionality to Radius. That's where the installation actually occurs. I'm fed up with static addressing and am starting to use DHCP all over our (small) system. I think I can get radius to work under these circumstances, but I didn't pursue it at the moment. It's still installed, however, but there's no separate menu item. Alan Clayson On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 14:11:22 -0500, you wrote: User Manager runs under ROS, so any platform ROS runs on, User Manager will as well. On 1/13/2011 12:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I think it is x86 only? That's about it. I have it on an x86 that is running 3.teens or twenties. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Tried loading this package and nothing. Does it require a different license? Jerry Richardson Sent Mobile WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3377 - Release Date: 01/13/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT user manager test
You mean in the html directory? It's in the hotspot directory. login.html is the main page people see alogin.html is the page people see after they log in Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote: You have to uninstall the standard usermanager package, and enable the test package. But it was a waste of time. The whole point was to be able to modify the user signup page. anyone know how to crack RouterOS to access the user signup page? I really want our own logo there. - Jerry *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Mike Delp *Sent:* Thursday, January 13, 2011 12:10 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] MT user manager test User manager has a seperate web interface. It does not show up in any Winbox menus. You could access some of it via the command line. On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Alan Clayson a...@sover.net wrote: I was fooling with this the other day on a RB433. I believe this package adds functionality to Radius. That's where the installation actually occurs. I'm fed up with static addressing and am starting to use DHCP all over our (small) system. I think I can get radius to work under these circumstances, but I didn't pursue it at the moment. It's still installed, however, but there's no separate menu item. Alan Clayson On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 14:11:22 -0500, you wrote: User Manager runs under ROS, so any platform ROS runs on, User Manager will as well. On 1/13/2011 12:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I think it is x86 only? That's about it. I have it on an x86 that is running 3.teens or twenties. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Tried loading this package and nothing. Does it require a different license? Jerry Richardson Sent Mobile WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3377 - Release Date: 01/13/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT user manager test
Got the hostpot login files configured. I'm after the user signup pages which are buried in the usermanager web files. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 4:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT user manager test You mean in the html directory? It's in the hotspot directory. login.html is the main page people see alogin.html is the page people see after they log in Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: You have to uninstall the standard usermanager package, and enable the test package. But it was a waste of time. The whole point was to be able to modify the user signup page. anyone know how to crack RouterOS to access the user signup page? I really want our own logo there. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Delp Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 12:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT user manager test User manager has a seperate web interface. It does not show up in any Winbox menus. You could access some of it via the command line. On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Alan Clayson a...@sover.netmailto:a...@sover.net wrote: I was fooling with this the other day on a RB433. I believe this package adds functionality to Radius. That's where the installation actually occurs. I'm fed up with static addressing and am starting to use DHCP all over our (small) system. I think I can get radius to work under these circumstances, but I didn't pursue it at the moment. It's still installed, however, but there's no separate menu item. Alan Clayson On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 14:11:22 -0500, you wrote: User Manager runs under ROS, so any platform ROS runs on, User Manager will as well. On 1/13/2011 12:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I think it is x86 only? That's about it. I have it on an x86 that is running 3.teens or twenties. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Tried loading this package and nothing. Does it require a different license? Jerry Richardson Sent Mobile WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3377 - Release Date: 01/13/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3377 - Release Date: 01/13/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] MT user manager test
They are different? Where are they stored? On Jan 13, 2011 5:39 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Got the hostpot login files configured. I'm after the user signup pages which are buried in the usermanager web files. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 4:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT user manager test You mean in the html directory? It's in the hotspot directory. login.html is the main page people see alogin.html is the page people see after they log in Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: You have to uninstall the standard usermanager package, and enable the test package. But it was a waste of time. The whole point was to be able to modify the user signup page. anyone know how to crack RouterOS to access the user signup page? I really want our own logo there. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Delp Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 12:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT user manager test User manager has a seperate web interface. It does not show up in any Winbox menus. You could access some of it via the command line. On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Alan Clayson a...@sover.netmailto: a...@sover.net wrote: I was fooling with this the other day on a RB433. I believe this package adds functionality to Radius. That's where the installation actually occurs. I'm fed up with static addressing and am starting to use DHCP all over our (small) system. I think I can get radius to work under these circumstances, but I didn't pursue it at the moment. It's still installed, however, but there's no separate menu item. Alan Clayson On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 14:11:22 -0500, you wrote: User Manager runs under ROS, so any platform ROS runs on, User Manager will as well. On 1/13/2011 12:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I think it is x86 only? That's about it. I have it on an x86 that is running 3.teens or twenties. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com mailto: jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Tried loading this package and nothing. Does it require a different license? Jerry Richardson Sent Mobile WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3377 - Release Date: 01/13/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3377 - Release Date: 01/13/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] MT user manager test
Yes, different. Wish I knew. Apparently they are buried in some hidden folder but according to Normis at Mt the files can't be edited. The new version of User Manager promises to solve this, I'm just impatient. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 4:44 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT user manager test They are different? Where are they stored? On Jan 13, 2011 5:39 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Got the hostpot login files configured. I'm after the user signup pages which are buried in the usermanager web files. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 4:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT user manager test You mean in the html directory? It's in the hotspot directory. login.html is the main page people see alogin.html is the page people see after they log in Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: You have to uninstall the standard usermanager package, and enable the test package. But it was a waste of time. The whole point was to be able to modify the user signup page. anyone know how to crack RouterOS to access the user signup page? I really want our own logo there. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Delp Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 12:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT user manager test User manager has a seperate web interface. It does not show up in any Winbox menus. You could access some of it via the command line. On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Alan Clayson a...@sover.netmailto:a...@sover.netmailto:a...@sover.netmailto:a...@sover.net wrote: I was fooling with this the other day on a RB433. I believe this package adds functionality to Radius. That's where the installation actually occurs. I'm fed up with static addressing and am starting to use DHCP all over our (small) system. I think I can get radius to work under these circumstances, but I didn't pursue it at the moment. It's still installed, however, but there's no separate menu item. Alan Clayson On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 14:11:22 -0500, you wrote: User Manager runs under ROS, so any platform ROS runs on, User Manager will as well. On 1/13/2011 12:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I think it is x86 only? That's about it. I have it on an x86 that is running 3.teens or twenties. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Tried loading this package and nothing. Does it require a different license? Jerry Richardson Sent Mobile WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:
Re: [WISPA] MT user manager test
You could probably stick it on a nix box. They do use ext2. On Jan 13, 2011 5:47 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Yes, different. Wish I knew. Apparently they are buried in some hidden folder but according to Normis at Mt the files can't be edited. The new version of User Manager promises to solve this, I'm just impatient. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 4:44 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT user manager test They are different? Where are they stored? On Jan 13, 2011 5:39 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Got the hostpot login files configured. I'm after the user signup pages which are buried in the usermanager web files. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 4:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT user manager test You mean in the html directory? It's in the hotspot directory. login.html is the main page people see alogin.html is the page people see after they log in Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.commailto: jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: You have to uninstall the standard usermanager package, and enable the test package. But it was a waste of time. The whole point was to be able to modify the user signup page. anyone know how to crack RouterOS to access the user signup page? I really want our own logo there. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Delp Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 12:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT user manager test User manager has a seperate web interface. It does not show up in any Winbox menus. You could access some of it via the command line. On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Alan Clayson a...@sover.netmailto: a...@sover.netmailto:a...@sover.netmailto:a...@sover.net wrote: I was fooling with this the other day on a RB433. I believe this package adds functionality to Radius. That's where the installation actually occurs. I'm fed up with static addressing and am starting to use DHCP all over our (small) system. I think I can get radius to work under these circumstances, but I didn't pursue it at the moment. It's still installed, however, but there's no separate menu item. Alan Clayson On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 14:11:22 -0500, you wrote: User Manager runs under ROS, so any platform ROS runs on, User Manager will as well. On 1/13/2011 12:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I think it is x86 only? That's about it. I have it on an x86 that is running 3.teens or twenties. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.commailto: jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com mailto: jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.commailto: jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Tried loading this package and nothing. Does it require a different license? Jerry Richardson Sent Mobile WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org mailto: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone running MT RB-750, UBNT gear doing IPv6?
Route. I don't use bridges for much of anything. On 1/13/2011 6:44 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: To route? Or are you referring to bridge? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Scott Reed sr...@nwwnet.net mailto:sr...@nwwnet.net wrote: But even 3.30 supports enough v6 for it to work. I have a working tunnel to HE via 5.0rc5 that is working well. I suppose it is time to upgrade that one. On 1/13/2011 6:28 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: The RC for v5 just added a lot of IPv6 stuff. No more then a few weeks old. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com mailto:os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Any Mikrotik routers in the mix? Greg On Jan 13, 2011, at 5:18 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: Yes I have. All my AP's are AP-WDS and all clients are WDS with a router behind it. v6 works fine. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net http://www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone running MT RB-750, UBNT gear doing IPv6?
While it is true that the HE tunnel is IPv4 on the HE-facing side, the MT is doing true IPv6 on the internal side. I have had my Windows XP laptop, a couple of MT routers and a Linux server all connected and they do IPv6 just fine and use the HE tunnel as well. Keep in mind, v6 is not new, it is well over 10 years old. Lots of things work better than you may think using v6. On 1/13/2011 7:00 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: When did they add on IPv6? I see on some of my 4.x routers I see VERY simple services - IP discovery, addresses and routes. I think the only real way to deploy ipv6 with MT is on rc7. You're the only brave soul I know of. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 6:54 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com mailto:os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: No, I'm not offended at all. I appreciate your comments and the privilege of being in the forum. When I read what you wrote about how the HE tunnel is IPv4 as far as the MT router is concerned (that had escaped me). But I still would be interested to know if others are doing true IPv6 through the MT RB750/RB450. Greg On Jan 13, 2011, at 7:17 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: My point is that you're a step away from accomplishing what you're asking others for at no consequence. I apologize if I offended you. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT user manager test
I don't see Jerry's post that Josh responded to, so here is a response to Jerry. Modifying the signup page is very simple. Open WinBox and open files. Open Windows Explorer (I assume you are using a Windows box) Drag the login.html file from the router to Windows Explorer. Make the changes you want to the file with your favorite text editor. Drag the file back to WinBox. If you need to add a logo file, drag it over as well. The WIKI has some help on doing all of this. User Manager is to manage the user behind the hotspot. On 1/13/2011 7:30 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: You mean in the html directory? It's in the hotspot directory. login.html is the main page people see alogin.html is the page people see after they log in Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: You have to uninstall the standard usermanager package, and enable the test package. But it was a waste of time. The whole point was to be able to modify the user signup page. anyone know how to crack RouterOS to access the user signup page? I really want our own logo there. - Jerry *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Mike Delp *Sent:* Thursday, January 13, 2011 12:10 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] MT user manager test User manager has a seperate web interface. It does not show up in any Winbox menus. You could access some of it via the command line. On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Alan Clayson a...@sover.net mailto:a...@sover.net wrote: I was fooling with this the other day on a RB433. I believe this package adds functionality to Radius. That's where the installation actually occurs. I'm fed up with static addressing and am starting to use DHCP all over our (small) system. I think I can get radius to work under these circumstances, but I didn't pursue it at the moment. It's still installed, however, but there's no separate menu item. Alan Clayson On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 14:11:22 -0500, you wrote: User Manager runs under ROS, so any platform ROS runs on, User Manager will as well. On 1/13/2011 12:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I think it is x86 only? That's about it. I have it on an x86 that is running 3.teens or twenties. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Tried loading this package and nothing. Does it require a different license? Jerry Richardson Sent Mobile WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3377 - Release Date: 01/13/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] MT user manager test
I want to modify the User Manager account creation/payment page but it's not accessible through WinBox. It's buried and according to MT the files are not available for modification. Apparently the new version will allow some limited modification like changing the logo, page name, bg color, etc. [cid:image001.png@01CBB344.68889280] - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 4:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT user manager test I don't see Jerry's post that Josh responded to, so here is a response to Jerry. Modifying the signup page is very simple. Open WinBox and open files. Open Windows Explorer (I assume you are using a Windows box) Drag the login.html file from the router to Windows Explorer. Make the changes you want to the file with your favorite text editor. Drag the file back to WinBox. If you need to add a logo file, drag it over as well. The WIKI has some help on doing all of this. User Manager is to manage the user behind the hotspot. On 1/13/2011 7:30 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: You mean in the html directory? It's in the hotspot directory. login.html is the main page people see alogin.html is the page people see after they log in Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: You have to uninstall the standard usermanager package, and enable the test package. But it was a waste of time. The whole point was to be able to modify the user signup page. anyone know how to crack RouterOS to access the user signup page? I really want our own logo there. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Delp Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 12:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT user manager test User manager has a seperate web interface. It does not show up in any Winbox menus. You could access some of it via the command line. On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Alan Clayson a...@sover.netmailto:a...@sover.net wrote: I was fooling with this the other day on a RB433. I believe this package adds functionality to Radius. That's where the installation actually occurs. I'm fed up with static addressing and am starting to use DHCP all over our (small) system. I think I can get radius to work under these circumstances, but I didn't pursue it at the moment. It's still installed, however, but there's no separate menu item. Alan Clayson On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 14:11:22 -0500, you wrote: User Manager runs under ROS, so any platform ROS runs on, User Manager will as well. On 1/13/2011 12:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I think it is x86 only? That's about it. I have it on an x86 that is running 3.teens or twenties. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Tried loading this package and nothing. Does it require a different license? Jerry Richardson Sent Mobile WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3377 - Release Date: 01/13/11
Re: [WISPA] MT user manager test
If it is x86 and you need it try using a nix box. Not sure if you saw that. On Jan 13, 2011 6:10 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: I want to modify the User Manager account creation/payment page but it's not accessible through WinBox. It's buried and according to MT the files are not available for modification. Apparently the new version will allow some limited modification like changing the logo, page name, bg color, etc. [cid:image001.png@01CBB344.68889280] - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 4:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT user manager test I don't see Jerry's post that Josh responded to, so here is a response to Jerry. Modifying the signup page is very simple. Open WinBox and open files. Open Windows Explorer (I assume you are using a Windows box) Drag the login.html file from the router to Windows Explorer. Make the changes you want to the file with your favorite text editor. Drag the file back to WinBox. If you need to add a logo file, drag it over as well. The WIKI has some help on doing all of this. User Manager is to manage the user behind the hotspot. On 1/13/2011 7:30 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: You mean in the html directory? It's in the hotspot directory. login.html is the main page people see alogin.html is the page people see after they log in Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: You have to uninstall the standard usermanager package, and enable the test package. But it was a waste of time. The whole point was to be able to modify the user signup page. anyone know how to crack RouterOS to access the user signup page? I really want our own logo there. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Delp Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 12:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT user manager test User manager has a seperate web interface. It does not show up in any Winbox menus. You could access some of it via the command line. On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Alan Clayson a...@sover.netmailto: a...@sover.net wrote: I was fooling with this the other day on a RB433. I believe this package adds functionality to Radius. That's where the installation actually occurs. I'm fed up with static addressing and am starting to use DHCP all over our (small) system. I think I can get radius to work under these circumstances, but I didn't pursue it at the moment. It's still installed, however, but there's no separate menu item. Alan Clayson On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 14:11:22 -0500, you wrote: User Manager runs under ROS, so any platform ROS runs on, User Manager will as well. On 1/13/2011 12:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I think it is x86 only? That's about it. I have it on an x86 that is running 3.teens or twenties. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com mailto: jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Tried loading this package and nothing. Does it require a different license? Jerry Richardson Sent Mobile WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com Version:
Re: [WISPA] MT user manager test
It's and RB450. Im just going to have to wait. I've got a workaround that will do for now. Iframes are my friend Jerry Richardson Sent Mobile On Jan 13, 2011, at 6:06 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: If it is x86 and you need it try using a nix box. Not sure if you saw that. On Jan 13, 2011 6:10 PM, Jerry Richardson mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.comjrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: I want to modify the User Manager account creation/payment page but it's not accessible through WinBox. It's buried and according to MT the files are not available for modification. Apparently the new version will allow some limited modification like changing the logo, page name, bg color, etc. [cid:image001.png@01CBB344.68889280] - Jerry From: mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 4:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT user manager test I don't see Jerry's post that Josh responded to, so here is a response to Jerry. Modifying the signup page is very simple. Open WinBox and open files. Open Windows Explorer (I assume you are using a Windows box) Drag the login.html file from the router to Windows Explorer. Make the changes you want to the file with your favorite text editor. Drag the file back to WinBox. If you need to add a logo file, drag it over as well. The WIKI has some help on doing all of this. User Manager is to manage the user behind the hotspot. On 1/13/2011 7:30 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: You mean in the html directory? It's in the hotspot directory. login.html is the main page people see alogin.html is the page people see after they log in Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Jerry Richardson mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.comjrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.comjrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: You have to uninstall the standard usermanager package, and enable the test package. But it was a waste of time. The whole point was to be able to modify the user signup page. anyone know how to crack RouterOS to access the user signup page? I really want our own logo there. - Jerry From: mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Delp Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 12:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT user manager test User manager has a seperate web interface. It does not show up in any Winbox menus. You could access some of it via the command line. On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Alan Clayson mailto:a...@sover.neta...@sover.netmailto:a...@sover.netmailto:mailto:a...@sover.neta...@sover.netmailto:a...@sover.net wrote: I was fooling with this the other day on a RB433. I believe this package adds functionality to Radius. That's where the installation actually occurs. I'm fed up with static addressing and am starting to use DHCP all over our (small) system. I think I can get radius to work under these circumstances, but I didn't pursue it at the moment. It's still installed, however, but there's no separate menu item. Alan Clayson On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 14:11:22 -0500, you wrote: User Manager runs under ROS, so any platform ROS runs on, User Manager will as well. On 1/13/2011 12:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I think it is x86 only? That's about it. I have it on an x86 that is running 3.teens or twenties. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Jerry Richardson mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.comjrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.comjrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com mailto:mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.comjrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.comjrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Tried loading this package and nothing. Does it require a different license? Jerry Richardson Sent Mobile WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] wires, wires, more wires!
What a mess, that's scary but oddly resembles the area behind my desk. DJ Anderson Sent from my iPhone On Jan 13, 2011, at 10:35 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: See attached. I wonder which country that is? -- -RickG !cid_image002_...@01cbb329.jpg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Job Posting
In that case, they might pry the radios from my cold, dead hands! On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Jason Scobbie j.scob...@jpiworldwide.comwrote: Quick note about a job posting on the wispa.org classifieds ( http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=2298id=236). Looking for a couple staff for WISP installs and support in Afghanistan (on US / ISAF bases) and in Western Africa (Liberia/Sierra Leone). More info on the posting URL above. Thanks Jason * * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] wires, wires, more wires!
At 1/13/2011 10:34 PM, RickG wrote: See attached. I wonder which country that is? Vietnam. (The sign is legible enough to recognize the language.) That *does* challenge some of the wireline plant here. -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] wires, wires, more wires!
cảm ơn bạn On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:00 PM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.comwrote: At 1/13/2011 10:34 PM, RickG wrote: See attached. I wonder which country that is? Vietnam. (The sign is legible enough to recognize the language.) That *does* challenge some of the wireline plant here. -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 11Ghz Licensing Warning Question
Fred, Tom DeReggi's comments were business-case based and constructive; basically exploring whether the Commission's NPRM on auxiliary stations would benefit the large operators or WISPs or both. In WSI's opinion the answer is both, but with WISPs getting the higher business growth percentage. Frankly, I do not see anything in your position that would benefit the WISP community. Further, I have nearly thirty years of experience working with the FCC, initially with the Xerox XTEN filing, and later, at Western Multiplex as VP of Business Development I wrote the request for a Rule Making and an Immediate Waiver of the Rules pending a Rule Making to allow unlimited EIRP in the 2.4GHz and 5.8GHz ISM bands. Both were granted (with the 1 for 3 rule at 2.4GHz) and we were able to take Western Multiplex from the Living Dead (profitable with no growth) to a Star Performer (rapid profitable growth), growing the company by 25%, 50% and 100% in three consecutive years. I believe that auxiliary stations can give WISPs the same type of growth opportunity. I believe your last paragraph summarizes your view, so I will address this paragraph. But Part 101 is all about using conventional means. Wrong -- Part 101Fixed Service rules are about the use of spectrum for Fixed Services, fortunately not about conventional means as this would preclude innovation. .(narrow beams, narrow bands) to squeeze in as many PtP users as possible via coordination, not auctions. There are two problems with the conventional approach: 1. Narrower and narrower beams mean larger and larger antennas with the related dramatic increases in CAPEX and OPEX, and even then they are still not perfect. 2. The FS market requirement is for higher and higher speeds requiring higher and higher bandwidths, not narrower and narrower bandwidths. It works pretty well. Actually it works very poorly as demonstrated by the difficulty of Prior Coordinating new 6GHz and 11GHz paths in cities such as New York and Los Angeles. The reason for the congestion is that every licensed station is given protection from harmful interference and all antennas radiate and receive signals in all directions, hence the reason for Rule 101.103 and the large antennas are a major contributor to the high cost of conventional licensed microwave links. As some of the Reply Comments noted, the alleged keyhole for auxiliary stations doesn't really exist very often. The keyhole has nothing to do with auxiliary stations as it is a contour around any station for a given interferer. Prior coordination requires that a new applicant check the EIRP at all angles around the proposed stations for all distances up to 125 miles at angles between five and three hundred and fifty five degrees, and at all distances up to 250 miles for all angles within five degrees of the antenna azimuth. This means that there are a very large number of locations around existing paths where a new applicant path cannot be deployed because the new path would cause harmful interference, and as the distance from the new applicant to an existing path or paths decreases, the number of choices for the new applicant path also decreases to the point where a new path at any angle will not prior coordinate. With a conventional approach these locations are unused, they are wasted. But with auxiliary stations the existing licensee can put the unused locations to productive use. But TDD and FDD also risk compatibility problems, and most of Part 101 is FDD, while your proposal is TDD. Wrong -- there are no compatibility problems using TDD in areas where FDD is operating, since a TDD path must prior coordinate before a license will be issued. Also, there is nothing preventing an auxiliary path from operating FDD, TDD, FDD-TDMA or TDD-TDMA. So it might make more sense to push for more spectrum elsewhere, rather than use self-defeating hyperbole to fight Part 101 interests head-on. I will again quote FCC Chairman Genachowski: We can't create more spectrum, so we have to make sure it's used efficiently. So, why are you proposing that we do not challenge the big companies who have vested interests in maintaining the status quo? The facts are these: . Spectrum is a finite precious national resource. . Every month thousands of new licenses are issued for primary stations when many of the services could have been provided by auxiliary stations. . For every license issued spectrum is wasted and millions of future paths are blocked, adding to already congested airwaves. . Auxiliary stations, with their small antennas and low cost, will for the first time be able to solve the last mile cost barrier, bringing economically viable licensed broadband to un-served and underserved communities. . Last but not least, auxiliary stations will give WISPs a significant business growth opportunity. What you are
Re: [WISPA] 11Ghz Licensing Warning Question
Wow Michael, That was an outstanding post. Thank you for taking the time to put it together. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com On 1/13/2011 11:31 PM, michael mulcay wrote: Fred, Tom DeReggi's comments were business-case based and constructive; basically exploring whether the Commission's NPRM on auxiliary stations would benefit the large operators or WISPs or both. In WSI's opinion the answer is both, but with WISPs getting the higher business growth percentage. Frankly, I do not see anything in your position that would benefit the WISP community. //Further, I have nearly thirty years of experience working with the FCC, initially with the Xerox XTEN filing, and later, at Western Multiplex as VP of Business Development I wrote the request for a Rule Making and an Immediate Waiver of the Rules pending a Rule Making to allow unlimited EIRP in the 2.4GHz and 5.8GHz ISM bands. Both were granted (with the 1 for 3 rule at 2.4GHz) and we were able to take Western Multiplex from the Living Dead (profitable with no growth) to a Star Performer (rapid profitable growth), growing the company by 25%, 50% and 100% in three consecutive years. I believe that auxiliary stations can give WISPs the same type of growth opportunity. I believe your last paragraph summarizes your view, so I will address this paragraph. /But Part 101 is all about using conventional means... / // Wrong -- Part 101Fixed Service rules are about the use of spectrum for Fixed Services, fortunately not about conventional means as this would preclude innovation. /...(narrow beams, narrow bands) to squeeze in as many PtP users as possible via coordination, not auctions./ // There are two problems with the conventional approach: 1. Narrower and narrower beams mean larger and larger antennas with the related dramatic increases in CAPEX and OPEX, and even then they are still not perfect. 2. The FS market requirement is for higher and higher speeds requiring higher and higher bandwidths, not narrower and narrower bandwidths.// /It works pretty well. / Actually it works _very poorly_ as demonstrated by the difficulty of Prior Coordinating new 6GHz and 11GHz paths in cities such as New York and Los Angeles. The reason for the congestion is that every licensed station is given protection from harmful interference and all antennas radiate and receive signals in all directions, hence the reason for Rule 101.103 and the large antennas are a major contributor to the high cost of conventional licensed microwave links. // /As some of the Reply Comments noted, the alleged keyhole for auxiliary stations doesn't really exist very often... / // The keyhole has nothing to do with auxiliary stations as it is a contour around any station for a given interferer. Prior coordination requires that a new applicant check the EIRP at all angles around the proposed stations for all distances up to 125 miles at angles between five and three hundred and fifty five degrees, and at all distances up to 250 miles for all angles within five degrees of the antenna azimuth. This means that there are a very large number of locations around existing paths where a new applicant path cannot be deployed because the new path would cause harmful interference, and as the distance from the new applicant to an existing path or paths decreases, the number of choices for the new applicant path also decreases to the point where a new path at any angle will not prior coordinate. With a conventional approach these locations are unused, they are wasted. But with auxiliary stations the existing licensee can put the unused locations to productive use. // /But TDD and FDD also risk compatibility problems, and most of Part 101 is FDD, while your proposal is TDD. / // Wrong -- there are _no_ compatibility problems using TDD in areas where FDD is operating, since a TDD path must prior coordinate before a license will be issued. Also, there is nothing preventing an auxiliary path from operating FDD, TDD, FDD-TDMA or TDD-TDMA. /So it might make more sense to push for more spectrum elsewhere, rather than use self-defeating hyperbole to fight Part 101 interests head-on./ I will again quote FCC Chairman Genachowski: We can't create more spectrum, so we have to make sure it's used efficiently. So, why are you proposing that we do not challenge the big companies who have vested interests in maintaining the status quo? The facts are these: ·Spectrum is a finite precious national resource. ·Every month thousands of new licenses are issued for primary stations when many of the services could have been provided by auxiliary stations. ·For every license issued spectrum is wasted and millions of future paths are blocked, adding to already congested airwaves. ·Auxiliary stations, with their small antennas and low cost, will for the first time be able to solve the last mile cost barrier, bringing economically viable
