Re: [WISPA] Anyone running MT RB-750, UBNT gear doing IPv6?

2011-01-18 Thread Greg Ihnen
Butch, No, I'm not on the IPv6 mailing list. I'll check it out. Thanks! Greg On Jan 16, 2011, at 12:35 AM, Butch Evans wrote: On 01/13/2011 05:54 PM, Greg Ihnen wrote: No, I'm not offended at all. I appreciate your comments and the privilege of being in the forum. When I read

[WISPA] Newbie says Thanks

2011-01-18 Thread Steve Lynch
Thanks folks! That should get me started. Now... if only there was an App for that on my iPad. Steve -- *Steve Lynch* Network Administrator MidSouth Satellite Athena Broadband (931) 224-4202 mobile (931) 680-0068 office 731 Union Street Shelbyville, TN 37160

[WISPA] Tower Enclosure

2011-01-18 Thread can...@believewireless.net
Anyone have any suggestions for a small enclosure to use on a tower? We plan to put it at about 500 feet with a fiber convertor, switch and power for the APs. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] Tower Enclosure

2011-01-18 Thread chris cooper
Lcom has some decent fiberglass models that should work. Chris Intelliwave -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of can...@believewireless.net Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 10:52 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA]

[WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread support
has anyone ever tried to partner with blockbuster say something like if you have a 1Mps service for $39.95 but then partner with the local blockbuster then have 1Mps premier service for $49.95 includes deals at block buster $5 would go to blockbuster a extra $5 would go to the WISP

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread Mike Hammett
BlockBuster also has an online movie delivery service. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/18/2011 10:01 AM, support wrote: has anyone ever tried to partner with blockbuster say something like if you have a 1Mps service for $39.95 but then

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread David E. Smith
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:01, support supp...@nitline.com wrote: has anyone ever tried to partner with blockbuster You still have a Blockbuster nearby? There's not one within thirty miles of me; the last one closed a couple years ago. There's one video rental store in town, and I can't

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread Josh Luthman
Redbox is at Walmart and McDonald's. I'm guessing all of them, but could be wrong. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:21 AM, David E. Smith d...@mvn.net wrote: On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:01, support

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread Jeremie Chism
Just saw an article that redbox rentals have outpaced the other store rentals anyway. Sent from my iPhone4 On Jan 18, 2011, at 10:25 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Redbox is at Walmart and McDonald's. I'm guessing all of them, but could be wrong. Josh Luthman

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread Josh Luthman
That doesn't surprise me at all. Who drives to the video to get a video instead of going to Walmart to get groceries, medicine, make up, shotgun, clothes and then gets a video on the way out? McDonald's needs a drive through Redbox IMO. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread David E. Smith
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:25, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Redbox is at Walmart and McDonald's. I'm guessing all of them, but could be wrong. Many, but certainly not all. There are three McD's near here, only one of which has a Redbox. (Though two of the bigger grocery

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread Jeremie Chism
Mcdonalds here has redbox. Along with most of the pharmacies. Sent from my iPhone4 On Jan 18, 2011, at 10:30 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: That doesn't surprise me at all. Who drives to the video to get a video instead of going to Walmart to get groceries, medicine,

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread Martha Huizenga
Title: signature Blockbuster doesn't do streaming for free, if at all. We just switched from Blockbuster to Netflix for this reason. Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC 202-546-5898 Friendly, Local,

Re: [WISPA] Newbie says Thanks

2011-01-18 Thread Jerry Richardson
search for the app RF Toolbox - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Lynch Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 6:06 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Newbie says Thanks Thanks folks! That should get me started. Now... if only

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread Jeromie Reeves
I would rather partner with netflix. In fact, i would LOVE to. I have designed my network to handle it. My competition (wireless) can not handle the number of netflixers as I can. I need to leverage that ability. The best way would be to have some kind of deal where I can say $$/mo and free

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread Jerry Richardson
Do you mind sharing with the rest of the class your design for supporting NetFlix? - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 9:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread Mike Hammett
Fiber and UBNT. Problem solved. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/18/2011 11:42 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote: Do you mind sharing with the rest of the class your design for supporting NetFlix? - Jerry *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread Jeromie Reeves
Bingo. Im keeping my cells small so I can keep the link rates high. I am working on getting fiber (or at least copper) between most relays. In a few places I am still looking at what it would take to be a cable provider but i really dislike all the regulation that comes with that. On Tue, Jan 18,

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread Jerry Richardson
As that what you are running? You have a fiber feed to every tower? What is your expected subs/AP? Are you running full wraps? Do you have additional spectrum to lean into when your current AP's max out? - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread Jerry Richardson
Interesting. I don't see the backhaul being the problem, fiber or high cap BH's will do the job. The issue really lies in the last hop to the sub. The idea of small cells is a good one and with UBNT's pricing it's doable. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread Jeromie Reeves
And I am banking (latterly) that the GPS sync will help double my capacity. It should, but we will see. On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Interesting. I don’t see the backhaul being the problem, fiber or high cap BH's will do the job. The

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread Chuck Hogg
For us, we have more capacity at each tower than the aggregate amount of bandwidth in AP's. I keep telling others, it's not the cost to get it to the tower, but from the tower to the home that hurts. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.netwrote:

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread Josh Luthman
That's because Netflix has the older stuff =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Interesting. I don’t see the backhaul being the problem, fiber

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread Jerry Richardson
Que? Not sure what you mean. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 9:55 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix That's because Netflix has the older stuff =)

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread Greg Ihnen
On Jan 18, 2011, at 1:37 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote: Que? Not sure what you mean. - Jerry I just signed my parents up for Netflix. They have 22,000 titles. Amazon has over 70,000. Netflix is $9 a month unlimited, Amazon is $3.99 and up per title. Amazon does have the newer stuff

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread Josh Luthman
Due to licensing Netflix only carries older movies that it can make more money on. The newer movies (like those just came out on DVD in the last few weeks, months). Redbox is able to get a better market (or maybe that it isn't instant/streaming and costs are less) and offer the newer movies.

Re: [WISPA] Newbie says Thanks

2011-01-18 Thread Steve Lynch
AWESOME!!! Love it! On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: search for the app RF Toolbox - Jerry *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Steve Lynch *Sent:* Tuesday, January 18, 2011 6:06 AM

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread Mike Hammett
That's what I'm deploying once UBNT beamsteering is out. Currently using MT and Canopy. I'll have fiber injection at more than 5 places in the network (1/3 of the APs). Will do more when I finish a couple more fiber deals. I don't expect to surpass 30 - 40 subs per AP, 40 MHz channels in 5

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread Mike Hammett
When you have 4 - 8 UBNT APs pushing up to 100 megs, backhaul becomes difficult. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/18/2011 11:51 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote: Interesting. I don't see the backhaul being the problem, fiber or high cap BH's

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread Jerry Richardson
If you can get your network running on 40MHz channels you will have done the impossible (IMO) Realistically 10MHz channels will do a little better than 25Mbps. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, January 18,

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread Mike Hammett
I haven't had issues with 40 MHz not passing 130 megabit on PtP. Remember that with the beamsteering, noise should be reduced as well. Having 8 dB more gain and reduced noise can only help immensely in a PtMP environment over standard sectors. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread Jerry Richardson
PtP is a whole different ballgame I hope you are right. I would love to hear a success story in the face of this onslaught of bandwidth consumption. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 11:58 AM

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread support
if your using 40mhz I sure hope you are upgrading to the new GPS units On 1/18/2011 2:04 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote: PtP is a whole different ballgame I hope you are right. I would love to hear a success story in the face of this onslaught of bandwidth consumption. - Jerry From:

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread Mike Hammett
GPS will be available before the beamsteering units, and yes, I'll be using GPS. You'd be a fool not to. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/18/2011 2:07 PM, support wrote: if your using 40mhz I sure hope you are upgrading to the new GPS units On

[WISPA] SR9 Available

2011-01-18 Thread Scott Reed
Anyone know of a supplier with SR9 cards in stock? -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread Tom DeReggi
Without strict NetNeutrality laws, WISPs would have the flexibilty and leverage to make those kind of deals, for mutual benefit of both parties. However, not sure its cost effective to encourage increased Video usage for just $5 per month. I remember a tradeshow Session with CWLAbs on VOIP

Re: [WISPA] [Ubnt_users] NS5 issues?

2011-01-18 Thread Forbes Mercy
If you haven't seen Ubiquiti has released the non-beta 5.3 firmware 7782 for it's M series equipment. http://www.ubnt.com/support/downloads Forbes WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] [Ubnt_users] NS5 issues?

2011-01-18 Thread support
5.5 with full VLAN support soon to follow 8-) On 1/18/2011 4:45 PM, Forbes Mercy wrote: If you haven't seen Ubiquiti has released the non-beta 5.3 firmware 7782 for it's M series equipment. http://www.ubnt.com/support/downloads Forbes

Re: [WISPA] [Ubnt_users] NS5 issues?

2011-01-18 Thread Ryan Spott
Be aware that the xmas firmware was not compatible (at least for me) with radios running 5.3f7782! Thank goodness I was was able to see both ends of the PtP shot! ryan On Jan 18, 2011, at 2:45 PM, Forbes Mercy wrote: If you haven't seen Ubiquiti has released the non-beta 5.3 firmware 7782

Re: [WISPA] [Ubnt_users] NS5 issues?

2011-01-18 Thread David E. Smith
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 16:45, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.comwrote: If you haven't seen Ubiquiti has released the non-beta 5.3 firmware 7782 for it's M series equipment. What's the best source for updated documentation and explanation? This firmware has some new checkboxes that

Re: [WISPA] [Ubnt_users] NS5 issues?

2011-01-18 Thread j2840fl
Airselect is channel hopping.Aircontrol is the ubnt management software. Sent from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: David E. Smith d...@mvn.net Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 17:11:48 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Reply-To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] [Ubnt_users] NS5 issues?

2011-01-18 Thread Mike Hammett
Not in a good format, but I think everything has been hashed out on their forums. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/18/2011 5:11 PM, David E. Smith wrote: On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 16:45, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com

Re: [WISPA] [Ubnt_users] NS5 issues?

2011-01-18 Thread Greg Ihnen
On Jan 18, 2011, at 6:38 PM, Ryan Spott wrote: Be aware that the xmas firmware was not compatible (at least for me) with radios running 5.3f7782! They let the programmers have too much eggnog. Greg WISPA

[WISPA] 2.4 foliage propagation

2011-01-18 Thread Mike Hammett
I know it sucks compared to lower frequencies. I know it typically has a high noise floor. I've never used it outdoor for real world experience. I'm looking at some small towns and other groups of houses with no more than 300 people or so (some much smaller). They are old, so they have adult

Re: [WISPA] 2.4 foliage propagation

2011-01-18 Thread Josh Luthman
Works for me. On Jan 18, 2011 7:47 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: I know it sucks compared to lower frequencies. I know it typically has a high noise floor. I've never used it outdoor for real world experience. I'm looking at some small towns and other groups of houses

Re: [WISPA] 2.4 foliage propagation

2011-01-18 Thread Jerry Richardson
From what I hear MIMO 2.4 has some decent penetration abilities. Have not tried it myself Jerry Richardson Sent Mobile On Jan 18, 2011, at 4:47 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: I know it sucks compared to lower frequencies. I know it typically has a high noise floor.

Re: [WISPA] 2.4 foliage propagation

2011-01-18 Thread Jack Unger
On 1/18/2011 4:46 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: I know it sucks compared to lower frequencies. Yes I know it typically has a high noise floor. Foliage doesn't create noise, only attenuates signal. I've never used it outdoor for real world experience. I'm looking at some small towns and other

Re: [WISPA] 2.4 foliage propagation

2011-01-18 Thread Mike Hammett
Well, no, the foliage doesn't make noise, but everything in Wal-Mart has a 2.4 Ghz transmitter in it now. Those are antenna gains. Radios would be up to 20 or so. Tower most likely would be above the trees, but the CPE surely wouldn't. If the CPE were above the trees, then I'd just use 5 gig

Re: [WISPA] 2.4 foliage propagation

2011-01-18 Thread Jerry Richardson
Why not 900MHz UBNT? Should be able to run 10MHz channels and deliver 20Mbps - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 5:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2.4 foliage propagation Well,

Re: [WISPA] 2.4 foliage propagation

2011-01-18 Thread Josh Luthman
It was said today it will be 5mhz channels. Are you sure about 10mhz? On Jan 18, 2011 8:21 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Why not 900MHz UBNT? Should be able to run 10MHz channels and deliver 20Mbps - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] 2.4 foliage propagation

2011-01-18 Thread Mike Hammett
For which product and where was it said? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/18/2011 7:24 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: It was said today it will be 5mhz channels. Are you sure about 10mhz? On Jan 18, 2011 8:21 PM, Jerry Richardson

Re: [WISPA] 2.4 foliage propagation

2011-01-18 Thread Josh Luthman
Ubnt 900 Mhz. Either this list or the Moto list. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 8:27 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote: For which product and where was it said? - Mike Hammett

Re: [WISPA] 2.4 foliage propagation

2011-01-18 Thread Jerry Richardson
I would be surprised if it was limited to 5MHz. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 5:46 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2.4 foliage propagation Ubnt 900 Mhz. Either this list or

Re: [WISPA] 2.4 foliage propagation

2011-01-18 Thread Mike Hammett
Wasn't any of the lists I'm on, must be on the AFMUG list. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/18/2011 7:45 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Ubnt 900 Mhz. Either this list or the Moto list. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne

Re: [WISPA] 2.4 foliage propagation

2011-01-18 Thread Brian Webster
Have you done a spectrum study on the towers to see what the noise floor is like? I have heard some say the Ubiquity MIMO stuff covers like 900 MHz in areas with reasonable noise levels. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com www.Broadband-Mapping.com -Original Message-

Re: [WISPA] 2.4 foliage propagation

2011-01-18 Thread Josh Luthman
fromSolorza, Jaime solor...@tisd.us dateSun, Jan 16, 2011 at 11:54 PM subjectRE: [Motorola II] ubnt m900 radios 26MHz …four channels at 5Mhz is all they offer Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 8:50

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread Jeromie Reeves
The video will happen no matter what. Some of my areas I can do bit billing, some I can not (yet) and might not ever be able to (dsl at acceptable speeds). Packaging netflix (or any other in demand video product) will let me raise the price of that product. This would give me a foot for some

Re: [WISPA] 2.4 foliage propagation

2011-01-18 Thread Mike Hammett
I haven't. I just spotted some areas as I drove past them today. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/18/2011 7:52 PM, Brian Webster wrote: Have you done a spectrum study on the towers to see what the noise floor is like? I have heard some say the

Re: [WISPA] 2.4 foliage propagation

2011-01-18 Thread Bobby Burrow
Actually there are 8 channels, You can enable channel shifting to achieve the alternate channels. Similar to the channel shifting on the other AirMax equipment. Bobby On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: from    Solorza, Jaime solor...@tisd.us date   

Re: [WISPA] SR9 Available

2011-01-18 Thread Scott Piehn
If you can't find a supplier, have 2 - 4 with light use would be happy to let go. hit me off list Scott Piehn JCWIFI.com Division Manager Computer Dynamics 451 W. South St Freeport, IL 61032 spi...@computerdyn.com V 815.233.2641 F 815.233.6225

Re: [WISPA] 2.4 foliage propagation

2011-01-18 Thread Jeremie Chism
What's the latest delivery estimate on the beam shaping antennas. Don't worry I can add the customary 3 months to whatever date is being thrown around. Sent from my iPhone4 On Jan 18, 2011, at 9:07 PM, Bobby Burrow bo...@burrow.com wrote: Actually there are 8 channels, You can enable