[WISPA] IPPay Code 012 Declines
I am wondering how many people out there are getting Code 012 Declines with their IPPay account? We are using Platypus, and all of the C012 Declines are able to be processed through the Virtual Terminal. Our customer calls the bank and is told, they are processing using an Adult Recurring Billing method, which is normally blocked on all accounts. IPPay says that the new bank that acquired these cards is handling it wrong and does not have an ETA for a fix. It has seemed to have happened with all Kroger MasterCards. Having to go through and manually process these accounts is starting to get to be a pain in the a$$. Our customers do not want to change credit cards. All of this seems like a crock, I know I am able to process them with AuthorizeNet automatic recurring billing. Has anyone else figured out a workaround for this? Regards, Chuck WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] IPPay Code 012 Declines
I don't see the codes in PC but might on the reporting website, that where you see them? Only complaint we have is the one customer that can't be charged with a recurring transaction. On Jan 20, 2011 11:24 AM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: I am wondering how many people out there are getting Code 012 Declines with their IPPay account? We are using Platypus, and all of the C012 Declines are able to be processed through the Virtual Terminal. Our customer calls the bank and is told, they are processing using an Adult Recurring Billing method, which is normally blocked on all accounts. IPPay says that the new bank that acquired these cards is handling it wrong and does not have an ETA for a fix. It has seemed to have happened with all Kroger MasterCards. Having to go through and manually process these accounts is starting to get to be a pain in the a$$. Our customers do not want to change credit cards. All of this seems like a crock, I know I am able to process them with AuthorizeNet automatic recurring billing. Has anyone else figured out a workaround for this? Regards, Chuck WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] IPPay Code 012 Declines
Within Platypus the reports show the response codes from IPPay. They can also be viewed on the IPPay reporting website. This isn't just 1 customer, this is a list of customers... Accounting is asking me if we can add our AuthorizeNet merchant account to Platypus as well so that they do not have to manually process these cards. I'd prefer that IPPay just fix it. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: I don't see the codes in PC but might on the reporting website, that where you see them? Only complaint we have is the one customer that can't be charged with a recurring transaction. On Jan 20, 2011 11:24 AM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: I am wondering how many people out there are getting Code 012 Declines with their IPPay account? We are using Platypus, and all of the C012 Declines are able to be processed through the Virtual Terminal. Our customer calls the bank and is told, they are processing using an Adult Recurring Billing method, which is normally blocked on all accounts. IPPay says that the new bank that acquired these cards is handling it wrong and does not have an ETA for a fix. It has seemed to have happened with all Kroger MasterCards. Having to go through and manually process these accounts is starting to get to be a pain in the a$$. Our customers do not want to change credit cards. All of this seems like a crock, I know I am able to process them with AuthorizeNet automatic recurring billing. Has anyone else figured out a workaround for this? Regards, Chuck WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] IPPay Code 012 Declines
It would seem that, if it truly is the bank having issues, that IPPay could temporarily change the coding so the cards work until the bank fixes the issue. On 1/20/2011 11:57 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote: Within Platypus the reports show the response codes from IPPay. They can also be viewed on the IPPay reporting website. This isn't just 1 customer, this is a list of customers... Accounting is asking me if we can add our AuthorizeNet merchant account to Platypus as well so that they do not have to manually process these cards. I'd prefer that IPPay just fix it. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I don't see the codes in PC but might on the reporting website, that where you see them? Only complaint we have is the one customer that can't be charged with a recurring transaction. On Jan 20, 2011 11:24 AM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: I am wondering how many people out there are getting Code 012 Declines with their IPPay account? We are using Platypus, and all of the C012 Declines are able to be processed through the Virtual Terminal. Our customer calls the bank and is told, they are processing using an Adult Recurring Billing method, which is normally blocked on all accounts. IPPay says that the new bank that acquired these cards is handling it wrong and does not have an ETA for a fix. It has seemed to have happened with all Kroger MasterCards. Having to go through and manually process these accounts is starting to get to be a pain in the a$$. Our customers do not want to change credit cards. All of this seems like a crock, I know I am able to process them with AuthorizeNet automatic recurring billing. Has anyone else figured out a workaround for this? Regards, Chuck WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 11Ghz Licensing Warning Question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/19/2011 03:11 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote: No one is suggesting that we dont challenge big companies with vested interests. I'm suggesting the opposite. I'm suggesting that we challenge big company spectrum hogs to give back spectrum, if they can use innovative techniques to free it. So this is like ipv4. Ask for huge swaths of space back. That doesn't scale. It just delays the problem. Asking for spectrum back will help for a while, but it won't be sufficient. We need to do the innovative research/development and work with the FCC to get rules changed. People don't give things back, it's a fact of life. The innovation that results from scarcity, will ultimately flow back into the large spectrum holders. Then hopefully they won't need more spectrum, because they will be able to use what they have at a great density. - -- Charles N Wyble (char...@knownelement.com) Systems craftsman for the stars http://www.knownelement.com Mobile: 626 539 4344 Office: 310 929 8793 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJNOHWtAAoJEMvvG/TyLEAtQkgQAIJeY3+flLzAEfenL/3AlAon QcOKoOYg8kN6zh9AQ6Dw8vU3nKPP8/dgJttqVCFyRXAuaQsXUA4c6IMDiJtVn9Tw 0tBFDT585L/R8zLMnzcRKQ+bMGvlTj46tP2Wuwp9jBnyNEeH3LZS6nG59vJ1c5Nh 7ysHCLIRAZKqbNxybSkKMQBJwsxL9ObZlDszb2PV5YQatEG3qXfQCGhBFjnlN3at iyCvFluHfBxucpuZAPkbDnoX2tQkPwc+29wOtWBERnGPRxNErKKTC5pzDU0hiQim R6ZNGLRZhAowW8C1UdCtHODjk8OKqvYibT//O0y48Iq4XMgZvIy/hgpmFSwZenWd 9Pb/tbCwITdlaMZngLsKeKEHVEbnvcbEdvSADO9pnqdCARqvI+m0mTnyEb2Rod5/ Pi8mYqXrHXaIDadjIJxtkc858ULtIG4Lk0Y562VoDg51JfmW7QpCoA5yJFvP5gyC apCED1j1dd6ZxdsBGE0N9S8OwSvOv9ufDPDodhXl0HhgAqSq+48fbT/vSX+lW1rw 2E1+m9crVZbzfX1n/MK+DwodTZVyqCzBb1tr7r4IdAFYO/gLTBOdFe/uX5KCMNYe wB0+PVJgBODZm0RAVeKH2+ZC8IuWNa7J+gTNOwbQqM+peLFrRUg9GJuisMM2PNWt doW27++KiZC2Obs0WZB3 =t1gJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] IPPay Code 012 Declines
We haven't seen any declines through IP pay here but we use k-billing for credit card and virtual terminal for our ACH recurring payments. It seems kind of fishy that you can process them with VT but not your normal billing software. On a side note Virtual terminal does have recurring billing set up in it, you still have to manually tell it to run all the recurring charges but at least you don't have to do them individually. Chadd _ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 10:57 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] IPPay Code 012 Declines Within Platypus the reports show the response codes from IPPay. They can also be viewed on the IPPay reporting website. This isn't just 1 customer, this is a list of customers... Accounting is asking me if we can add our AuthorizeNet merchant account to Platypus as well so that they do not have to manually process these cards. I'd prefer that IPPay just fix it. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I don't see the codes in PC but might on the reporting website, that where you see them? Only complaint we have is the one customer that can't be charged with a recurring transaction. On Jan 20, 2011 11:24 AM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: I am wondering how many people out there are getting Code 012 Declines with their IPPay account? We are using Platypus, and all of the C012 Declines are able to be processed through the Virtual Terminal. Our customer calls the bank and is told, they are processing using an Adult Recurring Billing method, which is normally blocked on all accounts. IPPay says that the new bank that acquired these cards is handling it wrong and does not have an ETA for a fix. It has seemed to have happened with all Kroger MasterCards. Having to go through and manually process these accounts is starting to get to be a pain in the a$$. Our customers do not want to change credit cards. All of this seems like a crock, I know I am able to process them with AuthorizeNet automatic recurring billing. Has anyone else figured out a workaround for this? Regards, Chuck WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] IPPay Code 012 Declines
I will be watching for this one. A couple months ago our auto-billing experienced a major issue regarding cards. Platypus support said it was on IPPay's side (let them remote into my machine even), IPPay denied it being their issue. Haven't seen it since but if we catch it, I'll update you. -Tim From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 8:57 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] IPPay Code 012 Declines Within Platypus the reports show the response codes from IPPay. They can also be viewed on the IPPay reporting website. This isn't just 1 customer, this is a list of customers... Accounting is asking me if we can add our AuthorizeNet merchant account to Platypus as well so that they do not have to manually process these cards. I'd prefer that IPPay just fix it. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I don't see the codes in PC but might on the reporting website, that where you see them? Only complaint we have is the one customer that can't be charged with a recurring transaction. On Jan 20, 2011 11:24 AM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.commailto:ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: I am wondering how many people out there are getting Code 012 Declines with their IPPay account? We are using Platypus, and all of the C012 Declines are able to be processed through the Virtual Terminal. Our customer calls the bank and is told, they are processing using an Adult Recurring Billing method, which is normally blocked on all accounts. IPPay says that the new bank that acquired these cards is handling it wrong and does not have an ETA for a fix. It has seemed to have happened with all Kroger MasterCards. Having to go through and manually process these accounts is starting to get to be a pain in the a$$. Our customers do not want to change credit cards. All of this seems like a crock, I know I am able to process them with AuthorizeNet automatic recurring billing. Has anyone else figured out a workaround for this? Regards, Chuck WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops
Looking for some gear to do 4 short hops under a mile and not interfer with existing 2.4 or 5.7 gear. Was thinking of the 5.2 or 5.4 band gear. Whats out there that wont break the bank and is FCC compliant in that band? Leaning towards canopy but would like more bandwidth and a lower price. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops
Looks like Trango still sells the TrangoLINK-45, which claims to support 5.2-5.8GHz with DFS. -Kristian On Thu, 2011-01-20 at 15:39 -0600, Matt wrote: Looking for some gear to do 4 short hops under a mile and not interfer with existing 2.4 or 5.7 gear. Was thinking of the 5.2 or 5.4 band gear. Whats out there that wont break the bank and is FCC compliant in that band? Leaning towards canopy but would like more bandwidth and a lower price. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops
Use 5.2GHz, mikrotik with cm9 or xr5 cards. I do a PtP link 3200ft on 5.3GHz. Carries 50Mbit on a 40MHz channel with ease... On 1/20/2011 4:39 PM, Matt wrote: Looking for some gear to do 4 short hops under a mile and not interfer with existing 2.4 or 5.7 gear. Was thinking of the 5.2 or 5.4 band gear. Whats out there that wont break the bank and is FCC compliant in that band? Leaning towards canopy but would like more bandwidth and a lower price. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3391 - Release Date: 01/19/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops
Check out trango 5055s- they'll do 5.2, 5.4, 5.7 and are a great value- they've worked well for us, and 5.4 works great when under the 2-3 ile mark (4 or so if you use external dishes). On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Matt lm7...@gmail.com wrote: Looking for some gear to do 4 short hops under a mile and not interfer with existing 2.4 or 5.7 gear. Was thinking of the 5.2 or 5.4 band gear. Whats out there that wont break the bank and is FCC compliant in that band? Leaning towards canopy but would like more bandwidth and a lower price. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- *Luke Pack **T6 Broadband | Essex Telcom* 2 East 3rd Street Sterling, IL 61081 Office: 815-544-1168 | Cell: 815-323-8966 | Fax: 815-380-6512 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops
Check out trango 5055s- they'll do 5.2, 5.4, 5.7 and are a great value- they've worked well for us, and 5.4 works great when under the 2-3 ile mark (4 or so if you use external dishes). On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Matt lm7...@gmail.com wrote: Looking for some gear to do 4 short hops under a mile and not interfer with existing 2.4 or 5.7 gear. Was thinking of the 5.2 or 5.4 band gear. Whats out there that wont break the bank and is FCC compliant in that band? Leaning towards canopy but would like more bandwidth and a lower price. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Luke Pack T6 Broadband | Essex Telcom 2 East 3rd Street Sterling, IL 61081 Office: 815-544-1168 | Cell: 815-323-8966 | Fax: 815-380-6512 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops
sorry for the multiple sends... On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Luke Pack luke.p...@t6mail.com wrote: Check out trango 5055s- they'll do 5.2, 5.4, 5.7 and are a great value- they've worked well for us, and 5.4 works great when under the 2-3 ile mark (4 or so if you use external dishes). On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Matt lm7...@gmail.com wrote: Looking for some gear to do 4 short hops under a mile and not interfer with existing 2.4 or 5.7 gear. Was thinking of the 5.2 or 5.4 band gear. Whats out there that wont break the bank and is FCC compliant in that band? Leaning towards canopy but would like more bandwidth and a lower price. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Luke Pack T6 Broadband | Essex Telcom 2 East 3rd Street Sterling, IL 61081 Office: 815-544-1168 | Cell: 815-323-8966 | Fax: 815-380-6512 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Luke Pack T6 Broadband | Essex Telcom 2 East 3rd Street Sterling, IL 61081 Office: 815-544-1168 | Cell: 815-323-8966 | Fax: 815-380-6512 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops
FCC certified? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 5:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops Use 5.2GHz, mikrotik with cm9 or xr5 cards. I do a PtP link 3200ft on 5.3GHz. Carries 50Mbit on a 40MHz channel with ease... On 1/20/2011 4:39 PM, Matt wrote: Looking for some gear to do 4 short hops under a mile and not interfer with existing 2.4 or 5.7 gear. Was thinking of the 5.2 or 5.4 band gear. Whats out there that wont break the bank and is FCC compliant in that band? Leaning towards canopy but would like more bandwidth and a lower price. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3391 - Release Date: 01/19/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops
If you want DFS2 legal the only thing I am aware of is moto Anything (old) DFS that is not already in the air is not legal to hang. There is a slough full of stuff that is pending DFS2 certification including ubiquity. Mikrotik is not DFS2. Jerry Richardson Sent Mobile On Jan 20, 2011, at 1:40 PM, Matt lm7...@gmail.com wrote: Looking for some gear to do 4 short hops under a mile and not interfer with existing 2.4 or 5.7 gear. Was thinking of the 5.2 or 5.4 band gear. Whats out there that wont break the bank and is FCC compliant in that band? Leaning towards canopy but would like more bandwidth and a lower price. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops
How much bandwidth and what is your price point? There is Exalt Comm EX5r series which works great. There are others but they have various DFS qualities and some false on noise which they mistake for DFS hits. -B- On 1/20/2011 5:00 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote: If you want DFS2 legal the only thing I am aware of is moto Anything (old) DFS that is not already in the air is not legal to hang. There is a slough full of stuff that is pending DFS2 certification including ubiquity. Mikrotik is not DFS2. Jerry Richardson Sent Mobile On Jan 20, 2011, at 1:40 PM, Mattlm7...@gmail.com wrote: Looking for some gear to do 4 short hops under a mile and not interfer with existing 2.4 or 5.7 gear. Was thinking of the 5.2 or 5.4 band gear. Whats out there that wont break the bank and is FCC compliant in that band? Leaning towards canopy but would like more bandwidth and a lower price. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops
The TLink45 (P5055m) uses DFS2 and is certified for 5.2 and 5.4... but it will only carry 3500-4000 PPS and overall is a POS. Moto PTP series (Orthogon) has 5.4 certified options, but certainly isn't in the price range mentioned. RadWin 2000 will do 100 FDX in those bands and is FCC certified. $5K+ per link though. Redline AN80 another option. Also .$$ Keep in mind you will be using DFS and therefore should be using high performance parabolics if there is any chance of radar activity. Otherwise be ready for 1-minute link drops. -- Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com On 1/20/2011 5:00 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote: If you want DFS2 legal the only thing I am aware of is moto Anything (old) DFS that is not already in the air is not legal to hang. There is a slough full of stuff that is pending DFS2 certification including ubiquity. Mikrotik is not DFS2. Jerry Richardson Sent Mobile On Jan 20, 2011, at 1:40 PM, Mattlm7...@gmail.com wrote: Looking for some gear to do 4 short hops under a mile and not interfer with existing 2.4 or 5.7 gear. Was thinking of the 5.2 or 5.4 band gear. Whats out there that wont break the bank and is FCC compliant in that band? Leaning towards canopy but would like more bandwidth and a lower price. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops
Try a Radwin 1000, Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Shoemaker Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 6:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops The TLink45 (P5055m) uses DFS2 and is certified for 5.2 and 5.4... but it will only carry 3500-4000 PPS and overall is a POS. Moto PTP series (Orthogon) has 5.4 certified options, but certainly isn't in the price range mentioned. RadWin 2000 will do 100 FDX in those bands and is FCC certified. $5K+ per link though. Redline AN80 another option. Also .$$ Keep in mind you will be using DFS and therefore should be using high performance parabolics if there is any chance of radar activity. Otherwise be ready for 1-minute link drops. -- Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com On 1/20/2011 5:00 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote: If you want DFS2 legal the only thing I am aware of is moto Anything (old) DFS that is not already in the air is not legal to hang. There is a slough full of stuff that is pending DFS2 certification including ubiquity. Mikrotik is not DFS2. Jerry Richardson Sent Mobile On Jan 20, 2011, at 1:40 PM, Mattlm7...@gmail.com wrote: Looking for some gear to do 4 short hops under a mile and not interfer with existing 2.4 or 5.7 gear. Was thinking of the 5.2 or 5.4 band gear. Whats out there that wont break the bank and is FCC compliant in that band? Leaning towards canopy but would like more bandwidth and a lower price. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops
The cm9 and xr5 cards are certified for use in the 5.2GHz band (5.18-5.32GHz) and in the 5.8GHz band (5.745-5.825GHz). I don't use anything in the 5.4GHz band because that requires DFS I really don't want to rehash the modular certification argument again. On 1/20/2011 4:55 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: FCC certified? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 5:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops Use 5.2GHz, mikrotik with cm9 or xr5 cards. I do a PtP link 3200ft on 5.3GHz. Carries 50Mbit on a 40MHz channel with ease... On 1/20/2011 4:39 PM, Matt wrote: Looking for some gear to do 4 short hops under a mile and not interfer with existing 2.4 or 5.7 gear. Was thinking of the 5.2 or 5.4 band gear. Whats out there that wont break the bank and is FCC compliant in that band? Leaning towards canopy but would like more bandwidth and a lower price. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3391 - Release Date: 01/19/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3391 - Release Date: 01/19/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops
Can you direct me to the CM9 and xr5 certification for the 5.2 band? I would really like to be able to use this band for a few sites where subs are 2-3 miles max - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:02 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops The cm9 and xr5 cards are certified for use in the 5.2GHz band (5.18-5.32GHz) and in the 5.8GHz band (5.745-5.825GHz). I don't use anything in the 5.4GHz band because that requires DFS I really don't want to rehash the modular certification argument again. On 1/20/2011 4:55 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: FCC certified? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 5:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops Use 5.2GHz, mikrotik with cm9 or xr5 cards. I do a PtP link 3200ft on 5.3GHz. Carries 50Mbit on a 40MHz channel with ease... On 1/20/2011 4:39 PM, Matt wrote: Looking for some gear to do 4 short hops under a mile and not interfer with existing 2.4 or 5.7 gear. Was thinking of the 5.2 or 5.4 band gear. Whats out there that wont break the bank and is FCC compliant in that band? Leaning towards canopy but would like more bandwidth and a lower price. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3391 - Release Date: 01/19/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3391 - Release Date: 01/19/11 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3393 - Release Date: 01/20/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops
unii low 5.15-5.25 GHz. 50mw, integrated antenna and indoor use only unii mid 5.25-5.35 ghz. 250mw, DFS required, 'Professional installer' take the FCC ID for the cards and go look at the FCC database. They only have certs for existing legacy installs. all new installs must pass the new rules. On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Can you direct me to the CM9 and xr5 certification for the 5.2 band? I would really like to be able to use this band for a few sites where subs are 2-3 miles max - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:02 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops The cm9 and xr5 cards are certified for use in the 5.2GHz band (5.18-5.32GHz) and in the 5.8GHz band (5.745-5.825GHz). I don't use anything in the 5.4GHz band because that requires DFS I really don't want to rehash the modular certification argument again. On 1/20/2011 4:55 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: FCC certified? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 5:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops Use 5.2GHz, mikrotik with cm9 or xr5 cards. I do a PtP link 3200ft on 5.3GHz. Carries 50Mbit on a 40MHz channel with ease... On 1/20/2011 4:39 PM, Matt wrote: Looking for some gear to do 4 short hops under a mile and not interfer with existing 2.4 or 5.7 gear. Was thinking of the 5.2 or 5.4 band gear. Whats out there that wont break the bank and is FCC compliant in that band? Leaning towards canopy but would like more bandwidth and a lower price. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3391 - Release Date: 01/19/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3391 - Release Date: 01/19/11 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3393 - Release Date: 01/20/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops
That's what I thought - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops unii low 5.15-5.25 GHz. 50mw, integrated antenna and indoor use only unii mid 5.25-5.35 ghz. 250mw, DFS required, 'Professional installer' take the FCC ID for the cards and go look at the FCC database. They only have certs for existing legacy installs. all new installs must pass the new rules. On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Can you direct me to the CM9 and xr5 certification for the 5.2 band? I would really like to be able to use this band for a few sites where subs are 2-3 miles max - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:02 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops The cm9 and xr5 cards are certified for use in the 5.2GHz band (5.18-5.32GHz) and in the 5.8GHz band (5.745-5.825GHz). I don't use anything in the 5.4GHz band because that requires DFS I really don't want to rehash the modular certification argument again. On 1/20/2011 4:55 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: FCC certified? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 5:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops Use 5.2GHz, mikrotik with cm9 or xr5 cards. I do a PtP link 3200ft on 5.3GHz. Carries 50Mbit on a 40MHz channel with ease... On 1/20/2011 4:39 PM, Matt wrote: Looking for some gear to do 4 short hops under a mile and not interfer with existing 2.4 or 5.7 gear. Was thinking of the 5.2 or 5.4 band gear. Whats out there that wont break the bank and is FCC compliant in that band? Leaning towards canopy but would like more bandwidth and a lower price. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3391 - Release Date: 01/19/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3391 - Release Date: 01/19/11 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3393 - Release Date: 01/20/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3393 - Release Date: 01/20/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops
Here is the 5.2GHz grant for the CM9 https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/tcb/reports/Tcb731GrantForm.cfm?mode=COPYRequestTimeout=500tcb_code=application_id=972754fcc_id=NKRCM9 I'm still looking for the 5.2GHz grant for the xr5, but here is the grant for 5.8GHz https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/tcb/reports/Tcb731GrantForm.cfm?mode=COPYRequestTimeout=500tcb_code=application_id=992995fcc_id=SWX-XR5 On 1/21/2011 12:05 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote: Can you direct me to the CM9 and xr5 certification for the 5.2 band? I would really like to be able to use this band for a few sites where subs are 2-3 miles max - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:02 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops The cm9 and xr5 cards are certified for use in the 5.2GHz band (5.18-5.32GHz) and in the 5.8GHz band (5.745-5.825GHz). I don't use anything in the 5.4GHz band because that requires DFS I really don't want to rehash the modular certification argument again. On 1/20/2011 4:55 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: FCC certified? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 5:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops Use 5.2GHz, mikrotik with cm9 or xr5 cards. I do a PtP link 3200ft on 5.3GHz. Carries 50Mbit on a 40MHz channel with ease... On 1/20/2011 4:39 PM, Matt wrote: Looking for some gear to do 4 short hops under a mile and not interfer with existing 2.4 or 5.7 gear. Was thinking of the 5.2 or 5.4 band gear. Whats out there that wont break the bank and is FCC compliant in that band? Leaning towards canopy but would like more bandwidth and a lower price. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3391 - Release Date: 01/19/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3391 - Release Date: 01/19/11 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3393 - Release Date: 01/20/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3391 - Release Date: 01/19/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops
And now I learned something... that the 5.25-5.32GHz band is now limited by DFS. This applies to new links only? On 1/21/2011 12:47 AM, Blair Davis wrote: Here is the 5.2GHz grant for the CM9 https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/tcb/reports/Tcb731GrantForm.cfm?mode=COPYRequestTimeout=500tcb_code=application_id=972754fcc_id=NKRCM9 I'm still looking for the 5.2GHz grant for the xr5, but here is the grant for 5.8GHz https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/tcb/reports/Tcb731GrantForm.cfm?mode=COPYRequestTimeout=500tcb_code=application_id=992995fcc_id=SWX-XR5 On 1/21/2011 12:05 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote: Can you direct me to the CM9 and xr5 certification for the 5.2 band? I would really like to be able to use this band for a few sites where subs are 2-3 miles max - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:02 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops The cm9 and xr5 cards are certified for use in the 5.2GHz band (5.18-5.32GHz) and in the 5.8GHz band (5.745-5.825GHz). I don't use anything in the 5.4GHz band because that requires DFS I really don't want to rehash the modular certification argument again. On 1/20/2011 4:55 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: FCC certified? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 5:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops Use 5.2GHz, mikrotik with cm9 or xr5 cards. I do a PtP link 3200ft on 5.3GHz. Carries 50Mbit on a 40MHz channel with ease... On 1/20/2011 4:39 PM, Matt wrote: Looking for some gear to do 4 short hops under a mile and not interfer with existing 2.4 or 5.7 gear. Was thinking of the 5.2 or 5.4 band gear. Whats out there that wont break the bank and is FCC compliant in that band? Leaning towards canopy but would like more bandwidth and a lower price. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3391 - Release Date: 01/19/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3391 - Release Date: 01/19/11 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3393 - Release Date: 01/20/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless
Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops
That's what I was driving at. Although technically 5.2 the FCC is treating the entire band as 5.4 and subject to DFS2 rules. Applies to anything not already in the air that would be grandfathered in. Anything not already in the air cannot be installed unless it's DFS2 compliant. Anything currently in the air needs to be checked againt the TDWR database to ensure you are not interfering with FAA weather radar. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:57 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops And now I learned something... that the 5.25-5.32GHz band is now limited by DFS. This applies to new links only? On 1/21/2011 12:47 AM, Blair Davis wrote: Here is the 5.2GHz grant for the CM9 https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/tcb/reports/Tcb731GrantForm.cfm?mode=COPYRequestTimeout=500tcb_code=application_id=972754fcc_id=NKRCM9 I'm still looking for the 5.2GHz grant for the xr5, but here is the grant for 5.8GHz https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/tcb/reports/Tcb731GrantForm.cfm?mode=COPYRequestTimeout=500tcb_code=application_id=992995fcc_id=SWX-XR5 On 1/21/2011 12:05 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote: Can you direct me to the CM9 and xr5 certification for the 5.2 band? I would really like to be able to use this band for a few sites where subs are 2-3 miles max - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:02 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops The cm9 and xr5 cards are certified for use in the 5.2GHz band (5.18-5.32GHz) and in the 5.8GHz band (5.745-5.825GHz). I don't use anything in the 5.4GHz band because that requires DFS I really don't want to rehash the modular certification argument again. On 1/20/2011 4:55 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: FCC certified? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 5:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops Use 5.2GHz, mikrotik with cm9 or xr5 cards. I do a PtP link 3200ft on 5.3GHz. Carries 50Mbit on a 40MHz channel with ease... On 1/20/2011 4:39 PM, Matt wrote: Looking for some gear to do 4 short hops under a mile and not interfer with existing 2.4 or 5.7 gear. Was thinking of the 5.2 or 5.4 band gear. Whats out there that wont break the bank and is FCC compliant in that band? Leaning towards canopy but would like more bandwidth and a lower price. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3391 - Release Date: 01/19/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3391 - Release Date: 01/19/11 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3393 - Release Date: 01/20/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3391 - Release Date: 01/19/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:
Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops
PtP link. 2200ft 2ft dishes CM9's 40MHz channel 5 years in service with the elevation and beamwidth accounted for, one is shooting the dirt and the other is hitting the moon ;) Link from fiber shed to dist. tower over a barn... Just to be safe, I checked and found that the nearest airport weather radar was 120+miles... In Chicago... and 150 miles to Detroit. So I think I am safe. On 1/21/2011 1:02 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote: That's what I was driving at. Although technically "5.2" the FCC is treating the entire band as 5.4 and subject to DFS2 rules. Applies to anything not already in the air that would be grandfathered in. Anything not already in the air cannot be installed unless it's DFS2 compliant. Anything currently in the air needs to be checked againt the TDWR database to ensure you are not interfering with FAA weather radar. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:57 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops And now I learned something... that the 5.25-5.32GHz band is now limited by DFS. This applies to new links only? On 1/21/2011 12:47 AM, Blair Davis wrote: Here is the 5.2GHz grant for the CM9 https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/tcb/reports/Tcb731GrantForm.cfm?mode=COPYRequestTimeout=500tcb_code=application_id=972754fcc_id=NKRCM9 I'm still looking for the 5.2GHz grant for the xr5, but here is the grant for 5.8GHz https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/tcb/reports/Tcb731GrantForm.cfm?mode=COPYRequestTimeout=500tcb_code=application_id=992995fcc_id=SWX-XR5 On 1/21/2011 12:05 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote: Can you direct me to the CM9 and xr5 certification for the 5.2 band? I would really like to be able to use this band for a few sites where subs are 2-3 miles max - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:02 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops The cm9 and xr5 cards are certified for use in the 5.2GHz band (5.18-5.32GHz) and in the 5.8GHz band (5.745-5.825GHz). I don't use anything in the 5.4GHz band because that requires DFS I really don't want to rehash the modular certification argument again. On 1/20/2011 4:55 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: FCC certified? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 5:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops Use 5.2GHz, mikrotik with cm9 or xr5 cards. I do a PtP link 3200ft on 5.3GHz. Carries 50Mbit on a 40MHz channel with ease... On 1/20/2011 4:39 PM, Matt wrote: Looking for some gear to do 4 short hops under a mile and not interfer with existing 2.4 or 5.7 gear. Was thinking of the 5.2 or 5.4 band gear. Whats out there that wont break the bank and is FCC compliant in that band? Leaning towards canopy but would like more bandwidth and a lower price. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
[WISPA] AM Tower Question
I ran a shielded shireen ethernet cable up a tower today about 50-60 feet maybe, the cable itself was maybe twice that length to run into a building. While the cable was being hoisted up I was holding the end and it got so hot I had to let go. There is an AM antenna running up the side of the tower and its about 10KW from what I was told. I am going to assume there is no way to successfully run ethernet up this tower, I know others have tried and warned me it would not work but I had to see for myself... I believe it now :) We do have power (standard outdoor SOOJ type cable 14/3) cable running to a box 150 feet or so up there. Ethernet runs from the box are about 5-15 feet max. Mostly unshielded indoor cat5 (I inherited this and have not switched out yet). Any way the power works fine and the radios and cabling have been there for years and is also fine. My question - I was told the power didn't work until a wise old man put a choke/filter of some sort on the power cable when it entered the box at 150ft. I want to run a new cable and put up a new box, but I'd like to not climb the tower and figure out what wise old man used. I'd rather know and have my new box ready for the beating before raising it up there. I usually use power filters on all our tower boxes (noise filter/supression unit on incoming power like Square D Surgelogic type LC power filter / surge protection 5 amp 120v). Is this going to handle the AM problem or do I need something more specialized? Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] AM Tower Question
My advice is to run fiber if you must use the tower. So the whole tower is not charged? Most AM towers are the antenna themselves. This means as you add equipment you will have to re-proof the tower as you have changed the radiation pattern of the tower. I am hoping your climbers have RF monitors or the owner has really turned down the power for you as you climb. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net Aol Yahoo IM: j2sw http://www.mtin.net/blog xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting Tower Climbing Network Support From: Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com Reply-To: sc...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 01:55:40 -0500 To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] AM Tower Question I ran a shielded shireen ethernet cable up a tower today about 50-60 feet maybe, the cable itself was maybe twice that length to run into a building. While the cable was being hoisted up I was holding the end and it got so hot I had to let go. There is an AM antenna running up the side of the tower and its about 10KW from what I was told. I am going to assume there is no way to successfully run ethernet up this tower, I know others have tried and warned me it would not work but I had to see for myself... I believe it now :) We do have power (standard outdoor SOOJ type cable 14/3) cable running to a box 150 feet or so up there. Ethernet runs from the box are about 5-15 feet max. Mostly unshielded indoor cat5 (I inherited this and have not switched out yet). Any way the power works fine and the radios and cabling have been there for years and is also fine. My question - I was told the power didn't work until a wise old man put a choke/filter of some sort on the power cable when it entered the box at 150ft. I want to run a new cable and put up a new box, but I'd like to not climb the tower and figure out what wise old man used. I'd rather know and have my new box ready for the beating before raising it up there. I usually use power filters on all our tower boxes (noise filter/supression unit on incoming power like Square D Surgelogic type LC power filter / surge protection 5 amp 120v). Is this going to handle the AM problem or do I need something more specialized? Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
