Re: [WISPA] A puzzle for your enjoyment...

2011-01-25 Thread Blair Davis

mounting Ring needs to be rotated 120 deg

On 1/26/2011 1:51 AM, Scott Carullo wrote:

Whats wrong?

No, its not an optical illusion lol

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Re: [WISPA] A puzzle for your enjoyment...

2011-01-25 Thread Kevin Neal
That's entertaining. I wonder how many this happened to...


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On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 11:51 PM, Scott Carullo
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Re: [WISPA] A puzzle for your enjoyment...

2011-01-25 Thread RickG
LOL, they installed your Rocket mount in the wrong place!

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Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops

2011-01-25 Thread John Thomas
Cisco 1200 series are FCC certified for DFS bands.

We have a pair of 1250's doing a .3 mile link at 135 Megabits/sec. 
Throughput at about 9.5 Megabytes per second on a file copy. Yes, they 
are more expensive at about $650 each (CDW), but they work. If you don't 
need 802.11n, then the 1242's will do 802.11a at about $475 each. You do 
have to mount them in NEMA boxes.


John

On 1/20/2011 2:00 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote:
> If you want DFS2 legal the only thing I am aware of is moto
>
> Anything (old) DFS that is not already in the air is not legal to hang.
>
> There is a slough full of stuff that is pending DFS2 certification including 
> ubiquity.
>
> Mikrotik is not DFS2.
>
> Jerry Richardson
> Sent Mobile
>
> On Jan 20, 2011, at 1:40 PM, "Matt"  wrote:
>
>> Looking for some gear to do 4 short hops under a mile and not interfer
>> with existing 2.4 or 5.7 gear.  Was thinking of the 5.2 or 5.4 band
>> gear.  Whats out there that wont break the bank and is FCC compliant
>> in that band?  Leaning towards canopy but would like more bandwidth
>> and a lower price.
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Re: [WISPA] Smith: Companies must save private data to combat child porn

2011-01-25 Thread Blair Davis


  
  
I have never tracked or stored any client identifiable data without
receiving a court order first.

I have NO historical data.

I do not monitor where or what my clients do.  I am not a voyeur.

The only thing we keep track of is total data transferred (cleared
each month) and we watch for virus and spam activity (cleared after
activity resolved)


On 1/26/2011 12:19 AM, MDK wrote:

  
  
  
  Careful Matt, someone might confuse you
  and me, if you keep up this attitude 
   
  Just a friendly warning 
   
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  From: Matt Larsen - Lists
  
  Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 8:50 PM
  To: li...@stlbroadband.com
; WISPA General List 
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Smith: Companies must save
private data to combat child porn

  
  
  
  I will be exercising my right to civil disobedience in the event
  that something like this comes to pass.   This would never make it
  through the court/judiciary system, so I'm fairly certain it won't
  be a problem.
  
  Matt Larsen
  vistabeam.com
  
  On 1/25/2011 7:22 PM, St. Louis Broadband wrote:
  


Same thing
  here from CNET: http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20029393-281.html#ixzz1C6HMbtXG
Except they
  are saying it has to be saved for two years!  All browsing
  data and email.
Nice if
  you’re a big ILEC and have endless funds …

The more I
  look at the state of the broadband market today, I wonder
  if WISPs will exist in the next few years.


Victoria Proffer
- President/CEO
www.ShowMeBroadband.com
www.StLouisBroadband.com
www.FarmingtonForum.com
314-974-5600

-Original
  Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
  [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
  On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves
  Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 8:12 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Smith: Companies must save private
  data to combat child porn
Why do they
  not just make everyone apply for v6 space. At least that
way was
  designed for tacking IP space to people.
On Tue, Jan
  25, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Jack Unger 
  wrote:
> The
  following information is offered for your personal use
  only. It contains no
> added
  starch, sugar or editorial content. It was not processed
  on any machinery
> that
  also processes eggs or nuts.
>
>
*
>
> House
  Judiciary Chairman Lamar Smith says new laws are needed
  that would force
>
  companies to save private data in order to help law
  enforcement combat child
>
  pornography.
>
> Smith
  said at a hearing on Tuesday that Internet access
  providers should be
> forced
  to save personal details linked to users' IP addresses as
  a way to help
> combat
  child pornography. In the last Congress, he introduced a
  bill requiring
> they
  do so for two years...
>
> LINK:
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Re: [WISPA] Smith: Companies must save private data to combat child porn

2011-01-25 Thread MDK
Careful Matt, someone might confuse you and me, if you keep up this attitude 

Just a friendly warning 

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From: Matt Larsen - Lists 
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 8:50 PM
To: li...@stlbroadband.com ; WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Smith: Companies must save private data to combat child 
porn


I will be exercising my right to civil disobedience in the event that something 
like this comes to pass.   This would never make it through the court/judiciary 
system, so I'm fairly certain it won't be a problem.

Matt Larsen
vistabeam.com

On 1/25/2011 7:22 PM, St. Louis Broadband wrote: 
  Same thing here from CNET: 
http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20029393-281.html#ixzz1C6HMbtXG

  Except they are saying it has to be saved for two years!  All browsing data 
and email.

  Nice if you're a big ILEC and have endless funds .


  The more I look at the state of the broadband market today, I wonder if WISPs 
will exist in the next few years.



  Victoria Proffer - President/CEO

  www.ShowMeBroadband.com

  www.StLouisBroadband.com

  www.FarmingtonForum.com

  314-974-5600


  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves
  Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 8:12 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Smith: Companies must save private data to combat child 
porn

  Why do they not just make everyone apply for v6 space. At least that

  way was designed for tacking IP space to people.

  On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Jack Unger  wrote:

  > The following information is offered for your personal use only. It 
contains no

  > added starch, sugar or editorial content. It was not processed on any 
machinery

  > that also processes eggs or nuts.

  >

  > 
*

  >

  > House Judiciary Chairman Lamar Smith says new laws are needed that would 
force

  > companies to save private data in order to help law enforcement combat child

  > pornography.

  >

  > Smith said at a hearing on Tuesday that Internet access providers should be

  > forced to save personal details linked to users' IP addresses as a way to 
help

  > combat child pornography. In the last Congress, he introduced a bill 
requiring

  > they do so for two years...

  >

  > LINK:

  > 


  >

  >

  > 
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Re: [WISPA] Smith: Companies must save private data to combat child porn

2011-01-25 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
I will be exercising my right to civil disobedience in the event that 
something like this comes to pass.   This would never make it through 
the court/judiciary system, so I'm fairly certain it won't be a problem.


Matt Larsen
vistabeam.com

On 1/25/2011 7:22 PM, St. Louis Broadband wrote:


Same thing here from 
CNET:_http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20029393-281.html#ixzz1C6HMbtXG_


Except they are saying it has to be saved for two years!  All browsing 
data and email.


Nice if you're a big ILEC and have endless funds ...

The more I look at the state of the broadband market today, I wonder 
if WISPs will exist in the next few years.


***Victoria Proffer - President/CEO*

___www.ShowMeBroadband.com_

___www.StLouisBroadband.com_

___www.FarmingtonForum.com_

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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves

Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 8:12 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Smith: Companies must save private data to combat 
child porn


Why do they not just make everyone apply for v6 space. At least that

way was designed for tacking IP space to people.

On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Jack Unger  wrote:

> The following information is offered for your personal use only. It 
contains no


> added starch, sugar or editorial content. It was not processed on any 
machinery


> that also processes eggs or nuts.

>

> 
*

>

> House Judiciary Chairman Lamar Smith says new laws are needed that 
would force


> companies to save private data in order to help law enforcement 
combat child


> pornography.

>

> Smith said at a hearing on Tuesday that Internet access providers 
should be


> forced to save personal details linked to users' IP addresses as a 
way to help


> combat child pornography. In the last Congress, he introduced a bill 
requiring


> they do so for two years...

>

> LINK:

> 


>

>

> 
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Re: [WISPA] Smith: Companies must save private data to combat child porn

2011-01-25 Thread St. Louis Broadband
Same thing here from CNET:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20029393-281.html#ixzz1C6HMbtXG
 

Except they are saying it has to be saved for two years!  All browsing data
and email.

Nice if you're a big ILEC and have endless funds .

The more I look at the state of the broadband market today, I wonder if
WISPs will exist in the next few years.


Victoria Proffer - President/CEO
www.ShowMeBroadband.com
www.StLouisBroadband.com
www.FarmingtonForum.com  

314-974-5600


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 8:12 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Smith: Companies must save private data to combat child
porn

Why do they not just make everyone apply for v6 space. At least that
way was designed for tacking IP space to people.

On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Jack Unger  wrote:
> The following information is offered for your personal use only. It
contains no
> added starch, sugar or editorial content. It was not processed on any
machinery
> that also processes eggs or nuts.
>
>


*
>
> House Judiciary Chairman Lamar Smith says new laws are needed that would
force
> companies to save private data in order to help law enforcement combat
child
> pornography.
>
> Smith said at a hearing on Tuesday that Internet access providers should
be
> forced to save personal details linked to users' IP addresses as a way to
help
> combat child pornography. In the last Congress, he introduced a bill
requiring
> they do so for two years...
>
> LINK:
>

>
>
>


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Re: [WISPA] Smith: Companies must save private data to combat child porn

2011-01-25 Thread Jeromie Reeves
Why do they not just make everyone apply for v6 space. At least that
way was designed for tacking IP space to people.

On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Jack Unger  wrote:
> The following information is offered for your personal use only. It contains 
> no
> added starch, sugar or editorial content. It was not processed on any 
> machinery
> that also processes eggs or nuts.
>
> *
>
> House Judiciary Chairman Lamar Smith says new laws are needed that would force
> companies to save private data in order to help law enforcement combat child
> pornography.
>
> Smith said at a hearing on Tuesday that Internet access providers should be
> forced to save personal details linked to users' IP addresses as a way to help
> combat child pornography. In the last Congress, he introduced a bill requiring
> they do so for two years...
>
> LINK:
> 
>
>
> ***
>
>
> --
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> Author (2003) - "Deploying License-Free Wireless Wide-Area Networks"
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[WISPA] Smith: Companies must save private data to combat child porn

2011-01-25 Thread Jack Unger
The following information is offered for your personal use only. It contains no 
added starch, sugar or editorial content. It was not processed on any machinery 
that also processes eggs or nuts.

*

House Judiciary Chairman Lamar Smith says new laws are needed that would force 
companies to save private data in order to help law enforcement combat child 
pornography.

Smith said at a hearing on Tuesday that Internet access providers should be 
forced to save personal details linked to users' IP addresses as a way to help 
combat child pornography. In the last Congress, he introduced a bill requiring 
they do so for two years...

LINK: 



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Re: [WISPA] OT: Spam filtering

2011-01-25 Thread Sam Tetherow
I use postini.  Granted I charge for spam filtering to my customers (if 
they want it).  But at approximately 0.50/inbox/month it is more than 
economical.  I ran spam assassin, spamd and dspam on a mail server and 
while it worked, the maintenance was a headache.

Quite honestly if given the chance I would not host email any more, way 
to much of a pain in the ass with little or no return.

On 1/25/11 10:30 AM, Jon Auer wrote:
> For those of you that host email for a number of domains, what do you
> do for spam filtering?
> Right now we have a cluster of Barracuda SF-600s that are up for
> renewal in the next couple of months and they are raising their
> update/subscription prices.
> Between the price increase and other issues I'm exploring other options.
>
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Spam filtering

2011-01-25 Thread Jon Auer
Glad to hear it. I've been talking with their rep and so far it looks good.

On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Ryan Goldberg  wrote:
> Our hosted-services guys went through a pretty extensive research/vetting 
> period when our cudas came up for renewal.  We went with Red Condor.  I hear 
> nothing but good things from customers and frontline support.
>
> Ryan
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>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>> On Behalf Of Jon Auer
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>> Subject: [WISPA] OT: Spam filtering
>>
>> For those of you that host email for a number of domains, what do you
>> do for spam filtering?
>> Right now we have a cluster of Barracuda SF-600s that are up for
>> renewal in the next couple of months and they are raising their
>> update/subscription prices.
>> Between the price increase and other issues I'm exploring other options.
>>
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Spam filtering

2011-01-25 Thread Ryan Goldberg
Our hosted-services guys went through a pretty extensive research/vetting 
period when our cudas came up for renewal.  We went with Red Condor.  I hear 
nothing but good things from customers and frontline support.

Ryan

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> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> On Behalf Of Jon Auer
> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 10:31 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] OT: Spam filtering
> 
> For those of you that host email for a number of domains, what do you
> do for spam filtering?
> Right now we have a cluster of Barracuda SF-600s that are up for
> renewal in the next couple of months and they are raising their
> update/subscription prices.
> Between the price increase and other issues I'm exploring other options.
> 
> What has worked for you for spam filtering?
> 
> 
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[WISPA] OT: Spam filtering

2011-01-25 Thread Jon Auer
For those of you that host email for a number of domains, what do you
do for spam filtering?
Right now we have a cluster of Barracuda SF-600s that are up for
renewal in the next couple of months and they are raising their
update/subscription prices.
Between the price increase and other issues I'm exploring other options.

What has worked for you for spam filtering?



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Re: [WISPA] new list

2011-01-25 Thread Bobby Burrow
This is disappointing. IF you read the Mission Statement and Goals of WISPA,
you would understand that this forum is not the place to vent or air ill
feelings. We are supposed to be a community of peers that can look to each
other for support and encouragement as we pursue of business goals.

 

Freedom of speech in these public forums is not intended to be the freedom
to complain or bash each other, let alone the organization that provides the
service. I would suggest that those that feel that need should find another
venue so the rest can continue on per the goals and mission as defined.

 

Bobby Burrow

WISPA Supporter

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 11:30 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] new list

 

To be entirely neutral.  We can't bash WISPA if we wanted to, for example.
We can't bash a company that is affiliated with WISPA.  Probably not the
best example, but this way we are entirely free to do what we want.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Steve Barnes  wrote:

Not sure of the reason for this Post here.  Isn't the wireless@wispa.org a
free non-vendor specific list?  Is this a post to pull users from WISPA?

Steve Barnes



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 11:36 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] new list

Hi,

In an effort to create a neutral discussion forum, a new mailing list has
been created called Wireless Users Group. This list is 100% free, and is not
tied to any product or service being sold. It is hosted on a free server,
with free bandwidth and free administration. No fees or vendor sponsorship
will ever be asked by this new list.

To subscribe to this new list, send an email to users-requ...@wug.cc with
"subscribe" in the subject field.

We support many of the wireless pioneers in this industry such as Motorola,
Wireless Beehive, and WISPA. We would just prefer a vendor neutral list that
allows discussion of any product (whether good or bad) so that we can all
learn.

__
Wireless Users Group us...@wug.cc




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