Re: [WISPA] 5 GHz FCC Webinar for WISP Community

2011-02-28 Thread David E. Smith
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 20:43, Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com wrote:

  We're talking with the FCC about having them do a 5 GHz webinar for the
 WISP community to address issues like:


Please make sure this addresses the whole of 5GHz, not just that little
mystery space in 5.4-5.6. To this day, I'm still not completely certain what
all the rules are for 5.2/5.3 and 5.8. Power limits, PtP versus PtMP, the
whole routine.

David Smith
MVN.net



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Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch

2011-02-28 Thread Mark Nash
I may be off here from the majority, but I don't want a switch.  I want 
to be able to put these onto router ports as well as switch ports.


I just want a rackmount multiport passive PoE controller, manageable per 
port with autoping and redundant power supplies.  Is that so much to ask 
for??? ;)


On 2/25/2011 9:42 PM, Brad Belton wrote:


Once they add remote management, redundant power supplies and a 
Auto-Ping feature they'll have a winner.


Best,

Brad

*From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
*On Behalf Of *Jerry Richardson

*Sent:* Friday, February 25, 2011 11:29 PM
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*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch

Just put in a 12 port 24V version of this for a UniFi WLAN. Worked 
flawlessly.


Powered the UBNT PB5 on one of the ports too.

- Jerry

*From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
*On Behalf Of *Nick

*Sent:* Friday, February 25, 2011 8:45 PM
*To:* wireless@wispa.org
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch

http://www.streakwave.com/Itemdesc.asp?ic=TP-NCMS312-18eq=Tp= 
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On 2/25/2011 5:52 PM, Jason Bailey wrote:

Anyone have a good vendor for a rackmount poe switch for ubnt 
gear?Getting kinda messy with all the zip-ties and double-sided tape 
;)  Thanks!  Jason


  
  
  
  


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Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch

2011-02-28 Thread Brad Belton
And here I am thinking all this time that I was the only one who would
appreciate a device like this!  I spoke with someone at Streakwave a few
months ago about this and basically got a blank stare response.  He had no
idea why I would want such a thing..sigh

 

So, to any manufacturers up to the task, here is (IMO) a starting point of a
bullet point list for the PoE device I'm envisioning:

 

(1)  Multi-port models.  (e.g. 6, 12  24 ports) 

(2)  SNMP  Web Interface Management with ACL firewall.

(3)  Redundant power supplies with separate power cords.  (e.g. UPS Blue 
UPS Red)

(4)  Dip switch DC polarity selectable per port.  (e.g. Trango/Canopy vs.
UBNT, etc.)

(5)  Dip switch 12VDC, 24VDC, 48VDC passive and standard 802.3af selectable
per port.

(6)  1U shallow depth form factor.

(7)  Auto-Ping per port.

(8)  LED Status indicators per port.

(9)  Optional DC power source model for solar sites?

(10)  Optional Trango Apex/Orion GigE model?

 

 

What else would be beneficial in the design of this PoE controller?

 

 

Best,

 

 

Brad

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mark Nash
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 10:53 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch

 

I may be off here from the majority, but I don't want a switch.  I want to
be able to put these onto router ports as well as switch ports.

I just want a rackmount multiport passive PoE controller, manageable per
port with autoping and redundant power supplies.  Is that so much to ask
for??? ;)

On 2/25/2011 9:42 PM, Brad Belton wrote: 

Once they add remote management, redundant power supplies and a Auto-Ping
feature they'll have a winner.

 

Best,

 

Brad

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jerry Richardson
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 11:29 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch

 

Just put in a 12 port 24V version of this for a UniFi WLAN. Worked
flawlessly. 

 

Powered the UBNT PB5 on one of the ports too.

 

- Jerry

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Nick
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 8:45 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch

 

http://www.streakwave.com/Itemdesc.asp?ic=TP-NCMS312-18
http://www.streakwave.com/Itemdesc.asp?ic=TP-NCMS312-18eq=Tp= eq=Tp=


On 2/25/2011 5:52 PM, Jason Bailey wrote: 


Anyone have a good vendor for a rackmount poe switch for ubnt gear?Getting
kinda messy with all the zip-ties and double-sided tape ;)  Thanks!  Jason

 

 
 
 
 


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Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch

2011-02-28 Thread Mark Nash
LOL the guys at Streakwave or most anywhere else don't have to open up 
the box and have things fall on them (I'm joking of course...it's been a 
long time since I was on that tight of a budget.  But the point 
remains...the PoE's create a TON of clutter in a 
rack/box/enclosure/shed/whatever...


On 2/28/2011 9:52 AM, Brad Belton wrote:


And here I am thinking all this time that I was the only one who would 
appreciate a device like this!  I spoke with someone at Streakwave a 
few months ago about this and basically got a blank stare response.  
He had no idea why I would want such a thingsigh


So, to any manufacturers up to the task, here is (IMO) a starting 
point of a bullet point list for the PoE device I'm envisioning:


(1)  Multi-port models.  (e.g. 6, 12  24 ports)

(2)  SNMP  Web Interface Management with ACL firewall.

(3)  Redundant power supplies with separate power cords.  (e.g. UPS 
Blue  UPS Red)


(4)  Dip switch DC polarity selectable per port.  (e.g. Trango/Canopy 
vs. UBNT, etc.)


(5)  Dip switch 12VDC, 24VDC, 48VDC passive and standard 802.3af 
selectable per port.


(6)  1U shallow depth form factor.

(7)  Auto-Ping per port.

(8)  LED Status indicators per port.

(9)  Optional DC power source model for solar sites?

(10)  Optional Trango Apex/Orion GigE model?

What else would be beneficial in the design of this PoE controller?

Best,

Brad

*From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
*On Behalf Of *Mark Nash

*Sent:* Monday, February 28, 2011 10:53 AM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch

I may be off here from the majority, but I don't want a switch.  I 
want to be able to put these onto router ports as well as switch ports.


I just want a rackmount multiport passive PoE controller, manageable 
per port with autoping and redundant power supplies.  Is that so much 
to ask for??? ;)


On 2/25/2011 9:42 PM, Brad Belton wrote:

Once they add remote management, redundant power supplies and a 
Auto-Ping feature they'll have a winner.


Best,

Brad

*From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Jerry Richardson

*Sent:* Friday, February 25, 2011 11:29 PM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch

Just put in a 12 port 24V version of this for a UniFi WLAN. Worked 
flawlessly.


Powered the UBNT PB5 on one of the ports too.

- Jerry

*From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Nick

*Sent:* Friday, February 25, 2011 8:45 PM
*To:* wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch

http://www.streakwave.com/Itemdesc.asp?ic=TP-NCMS312-18eq=Tp= 
http://www.streakwave.com/Itemdesc.asp?ic=TP-NCMS312-18eq=Tp=



On 2/25/2011 5:52 PM, Jason Bailey wrote:

Anyone have a good vendor for a rackmount poe switch for ubnt 
gear?Getting kinda messy with all the zip-ties and double-sided tape 
;)  Thanks!  Jason


  
  
  
  


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[WISPA] Test

2011-02-28 Thread Rick Harnish
Mailing list traffic is almost non-existent today.  I'm just testing to make
sure all is operational.  Please ignore.  I hope everyone faired well
through the storms crossing the country over the weekend.

 

Attend http://fispawispaspring2011.eventbrite.com/  the Orlando Service
Provider Summit March 23-25

 

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Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch

2011-02-28 Thread Chuck Hogg
The problem becomes that something with all those options are going to be
more expensive than 6,12,24 PoE's.  The market is demanding something cheap,
and it would be hard to do that cheaply without quantity.

Regards,

Chuck


On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote:

 And here I am thinking all this time that I was the only one who would
 appreciate a device like this!  I spoke with someone at Streakwave a few
 months ago about this and basically got a blank stare response.  He had no
 idea why I would want such a thing….sigh



 So, to any manufacturers up to the task, here is (IMO) a starting point of
 a bullet point list for the PoE device I’m envisioning:



 (1)  Multi-port models.  (e.g. 6, 12  24 ports)

 (2)  SNMP  Web Interface Management with ACL firewall.

 (3)  Redundant power supplies with separate power cords.  (e.g. UPS “Blue”
  UPS “Red”)

 (4)  Dip switch DC polarity selectable per port.  (e.g. Trango/Canopy vs.
 UBNT, etc.)

 (5)  Dip switch 12VDC, 24VDC, 48VDC passive and standard 802.3af selectable
 per port.

 (6)  1U shallow depth form factor.

 (7)  Auto-Ping per port.

 (8)  LED Status indicators per port.

 (9)  Optional DC power source model for solar sites?

 (10)  Optional Trango Apex/Orion GigE model?





 What else would be beneficial in the design of this PoE controller?





 Best,





 Brad





 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
 Behalf Of *Mark Nash
 *Sent:* Monday, February 28, 2011 10:53 AM

 *To:* WISPA General List
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch



 I may be off here from the majority, but I don't want a switch.  I want to
 be able to put these onto router ports as well as switch ports.

 I just want a rackmount multiport passive PoE controller, manageable per
 port with autoping and redundant power supplies.  Is that so much to ask
 for??? ;)

 On 2/25/2011 9:42 PM, Brad Belton wrote:

 Once they add remote management, redundant power supplies and a “Auto-Ping”
 feature they’ll have a winner.



 Best,



 Brad



 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 *On Behalf Of *Jerry Richardson
 *Sent:* Friday, February 25, 2011 11:29 PM
 *To:* WISPA General List
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch



 Just put in a 12 port 24V version of this for a UniFi WLAN. Worked
 flawlessly.



 Powered the UBNT PB5 on one of the ports too.



 - Jerry



 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 *On Behalf Of *Nick
 *Sent:* Friday, February 25, 2011 8:45 PM
 *To:* wireless@wispa.org
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch



 http://www.streakwave.com/Itemdesc.asp?ic=TP-NCMS312-18eq=Tp=


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 Anyone have a good vendor for a rackmount poe switch for ubnt gear?Getting
 kinda messy with all the zip-ties and double-sided tape ;)  Thanks!  Jason











 

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Re: [WISPA] Test

2011-02-28 Thread Jerry Richardson
My emails to wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org are not getting 
delivered.

first one was sent 2 hours ago and still has not gone through

- Jerry

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
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Subject: [WISPA] Test

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sure all is operational.  Please ignore.  I hope everyone faired well through 
the storms crossing the country over the weekend.

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[WISPA] High connect rates

2011-02-28 Thread Jeremie Chism
I am experiencing high connect rates from one ip address to all of my public ip 
addresses. It's starting to cause problems. Is there any way to stop it in 
mikrotik?

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Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch

2011-02-28 Thread Charles N Wyble
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On 02/28/2011 09:52 AM, Brad Belton wrote:
 And here I am thinking all this time that I was the only one who would
 appreciate a device like this!  I spoke with someone at Streakwave a few
 months ago about this and basically got a blank stare response.  He had no
 idea why I would want such a thing..sigh
 
  
 
 So, to any manufacturers up to the task, here is (IMO) a starting point of a
 bullet point list for the PoE device I'm envisioning:
 
  
 
 (1)  Multi-port models.  (e.g. 6, 12  24 ports) 

Of course.

 
 (2)  SNMP  Web Interface Management with ACL firewall.

Explain more? What do you want to query via SNMP? Write via SNMP? Why
does it need an ACL system? Why not just use your existing network
security system to keep people out? You do have a dedicated
infrastructure management network right?

 
 (3)  Redundant power supplies with separate power cords.  (e.g. UPS Blue 
 UPS Red)

Of course. How much power would need to come in? Would the power
supplies be hot swappable?

 
 (4)  Dip switch DC polarity selectable per port.  (e.g. Trango/Canopy vs.
 UBNT, etc.)


 
 (5)  Dip switch 12VDC, 24VDC, 48VDC passive and standard 802.3af selectable
 per port.


Hmmm. Why not just do this via software interface (like cisco poe switch
for example). That would make the most sense to me.

 
 (6)  1U shallow depth form factor.

Naturally

 
 (7)  Auto-Ping per port.

What does this mean? Is this like an iboot where if it doesn't receive a
heartbeat in specified time period it cycles power on the port? Of
course you would be able to disable this when doing maintenance that is
a longer outage (like say flashing firmware or something)

 
 (8)  LED Status indicators per port.

Why? Just give it via SNMP/web interface. (Guess I'm just so used to
being a remote support person that I never expect to have local access.
Have managed 10s of thousands of remote systems that I never saw).

 
 (9)  Optional DC power source model for solar sites?

DC power is a requirement I think. On every model.

 
 (10)  Optional Trango Apex/Orion GigE model?

Don't know what this is. Maybe others on the list will?

 What else would be beneficial in the design of this PoE controller?

Think you about covered it.

One thinks Cisco would do something like this and make it fairly
dumb/cheap. They already meet all your above requirements (well don't
know about redundant power supply on 1U but I imagine that could easily
be done).

 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mark Nash
 Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 10:53 AM
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 Subject: Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch
 
  
 
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Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch

2011-02-28 Thread Brad Belton
Exactly.  I think those of that want a device like this clearly understand
it will cost more than 24 PoEs!  I doubt 24 PoEs will give you power
redundancy, Auto-Ping, etc, etc all the features we are looking for.

 

Granted some of the options I listed are not needed for my particular needs
or possibly the next guy either, but I wanted to throw a few extra ideas
into the pot just to see if there is interest.

 

Depending on the feature set that is ultimately offered I would be willing
to pay in the $500 range.  Add up the costs of a remote reboot, power
supplies, etc, etc to match this proposed PoE Controller and then consider
the pros vs. cons of each method.

 

I would also hesitate to assert the market is demanding something cheap.
Many of us here are well beyond the cheaper is better philosophy and are
able/willing to pay more for a better product.  Adding a $500 or even $1000
to the overall cost of a HUB site for these features from a high quality
device is well within reason, IMO.

 

Best,

 

 

Brad

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 1:28 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch

 

The problem becomes that something with all those options are going to be
more expensive than 6,12,24 PoE's.  The market is demanding something cheap,
and it would be hard to do that cheaply without quantity.


Regards,

Chuck



On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote:

And here I am thinking all this time that I was the only one who would
appreciate a device like this!  I spoke with someone at Streakwave a few
months ago about this and basically got a blank stare response.  He had no
idea why I would want such a thing..sigh

 

So, to any manufacturers up to the task, here is (IMO) a starting point of a
bullet point list for the PoE device I'm envisioning:

 

(1)  Multi-port models.  (e.g. 6, 12  24 ports) 

(2)  SNMP  Web Interface Management with ACL firewall.

(3)  Redundant power supplies with separate power cords.  (e.g. UPS Blue 
UPS Red)

(4)  Dip switch DC polarity selectable per port.  (e.g. Trango/Canopy vs.
UBNT, etc.)

(5)  Dip switch 12VDC, 24VDC, 48VDC passive and standard 802.3af selectable
per port.

(6)  1U shallow depth form factor.

(7)  Auto-Ping per port.

(8)  LED Status indicators per port.

(9)  Optional DC power source model for solar sites?

(10)  Optional Trango Apex/Orion GigE model?

 

 

What else would be beneficial in the design of this PoE controller?

 

 

Best,

 

 

Brad

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mark Nash
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 10:53 AM


To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch

 

I may be off here from the majority, but I don't want a switch.  I want to
be able to put these onto router ports as well as switch ports.

I just want a rackmount multiport passive PoE controller, manageable per
port with autoping and redundant power supplies.  Is that so much to ask
for??? ;)

On 2/25/2011 9:42 PM, Brad Belton wrote: 

Once they add remote management, redundant power supplies and a Auto-Ping
feature they'll have a winner.

 

Best,

 

Brad

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jerry Richardson
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 11:29 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch

 

Just put in a 12 port 24V version of this for a UniFi WLAN. Worked
flawlessly. 

 

Powered the UBNT PB5 on one of the ports too.

 

- Jerry

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Nick
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 8:45 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch

 

http://www.streakwave.com/Itemdesc.asp?ic=TP-NCMS312-18
http://www.streakwave.com/Itemdesc.asp?ic=TP-NCMS312-18eq=Tp= eq=Tp=


On 2/25/2011 5:52 PM, Jason Bailey wrote: 


Anyone have a good vendor for a rackmount poe switch for ubnt gear?Getting
kinda messy with all the zip-ties and double-sided tape ;)  Thanks!  Jason

 

 
 
 
 


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Re: [WISPA] High connect rates

2011-02-28 Thread Josh Luthman
/ip firewall filter
add chain=forward action=drop src-address=1.1.1.1/32

where 1.1.1.1 is that bad IP

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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am experiencing high connect rates from one ip address to all of my
 public ip addresses. It's starting to cause problems. Is there any way to
 stop it in mikrotik?

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Re: [WISPA] 5 GHz FCC Webinar for WISP Community

2011-02-28 Thread Jack Unger


  
  
Excellent point - Thanks.
  
  jack
  

On 2/28/2011 7:35 AM, David E. Smith wrote:

  
  
  On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 20:43, Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com
wrote:

   We're talking with the FCC about having them do a 5 GHz
webinar for the WISP community to address issues like:

  



Please make sure this addresses the whole of 5GHz, not just
  that little mystery space in 5.4-5.6. To this day, I'm still
  not completely certain what all the rules are for 5.2/5.3 and
  5.8. Power limits, PtP versus PtMP, the whole routine.


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Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch

2011-02-28 Thread j2840fl
Ill take ten ;)
Sent from my BlackBerry®

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Re: [WISPA] High connect rates

2011-02-28 Thread Scott Piehn
yes
ip
firewall
filter rules

specify source ip and action of drop to be nice or tar pit if you want to me 
mean


-
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- Original Message - 
From: Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 9:37 AM
Subject: [WISPA] High connect rates


I am experiencing high connect rates from one ip address to all of my 
public ip addresses. It's starting to cause problems. Is there any way to 
stop it in mikrotik?

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Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch

2011-02-28 Thread Mark Nash
The expensive bit may not be that great of an argument.  We're already 
spending $$$ on other equipment to accomplish the same thing.

Add 3 or 4 standard 115V outlets (to power switches and routers - 
non-PoE devices) and the rest should be PoE.  All remotely controlled 
off  on, all with individual ping watchdogs.

Make it a 2U, would likely have to.

On 2/28/2011 1:44 PM, Charles N Wyble wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 On 02/28/2011 09:52 AM, Brad Belton wrote:
 And here I am thinking all this time that I was the only one who would
 appreciate a device like this!  I spoke with someone at Streakwave a few
 months ago about this and basically got a blank stare response.  He had no
 idea why I would want such a thing..sigh



 So, to any manufacturers up to the task, here is (IMO) a starting point of a
 bullet point list for the PoE device I'm envisioning:



 (1)  Multi-port models.  (e.g. 6, 12  24 ports)
 Of course.

 (2)  SNMP  Web Interface Management with ACL firewall.
 Explain more? What do you want to query via SNMP? Write via SNMP? Why
 does it need an ACL system? Why not just use your existing network
 security system to keep people out? You do have a dedicated
 infrastructure management network right?

 (3)  Redundant power supplies with separate power cords.  (e.g. UPS Blue
 UPS Red)
 Of course. How much power would need to come in? Would the power
 supplies be hot swappable?

 (4)  Dip switch DC polarity selectable per port.  (e.g. Trango/Canopy vs.
 UBNT, etc.)

 (5)  Dip switch 12VDC, 24VDC, 48VDC passive and standard 802.3af selectable
 per port.

 Hmmm. Why not just do this via software interface (like cisco poe switch
 for example). That would make the most sense to me.

 (6)  1U shallow depth form factor.
 Naturally

 (7)  Auto-Ping per port.
 What does this mean? Is this like an iboot where if it doesn't receive a
 heartbeat in specified time period it cycles power on the port? Of
 course you would be able to disable this when doing maintenance that is
 a longer outage (like say flashing firmware or something)

 (8)  LED Status indicators per port.
 Why? Just give it via SNMP/web interface. (Guess I'm just so used to
 being a remote support person that I never expect to have local access.
 Have managed 10s of thousands of remote systems that I never saw).

 (9)  Optional DC power source model for solar sites?
 DC power is a requirement I think. On every model.

 (10)  Optional Trango Apex/Orion GigE model?
 Don't know what this is. Maybe others on the list will?

 What else would be beneficial in the design of this PoE controller?
 Think you about covered it.

 One thinks Cisco would do something like this and make it fairly
 dumb/cheap. They already meet all your above requirements (well don't
 know about redundant power supply on 1U but I imagine that could easily
 be done).

 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mark Nash
 Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 10:53 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch



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Re: [WISPA] Test

2011-02-28 Thread Mark Nash
Is it just me or are timestamps off on emails coming through to the 
general  members lists?


On 2/28/2011 11:31 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote:


My emails to wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org are not 
getting delivered.


first one was sent 2 hours ago and still has not gone through

- Jerry

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*Subject:* [WISPA] Test

Mailing list traffic is almost non-existent today.  I'm just testing 
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Re: [WISPA] High connect rates

2011-02-28 Thread Jeremie Chism
Thanks for all the help. I really have to take the time to learn mikrotik. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 28, 2011, at 2:56 PM, Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com wrote:

 yes
 ip
 firewall
 filter rules
 
 specify source ip and action of drop to be nice or tar pit if you want to me 
 mean
 
 
 -
 Scott Piehn
 JCWIFI.com Division Manager
 Computer Dynamics
 451 W. South St
 Freeport, IL 61032
 V 815.233.2641
 F 815.233.6225
 E spi...@computerdyn.com
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 9:37 AM
 Subject: [WISPA] High connect rates
 
 
 I am experiencing high connect rates from one ip address to all of my 
 public ip addresses. It's starting to cause problems. Is there any way to 
 stop it in mikrotik?
 
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Re: [WISPA] Test

2011-02-28 Thread Josh Luthman
I just got this message marked 28 minutes ago.

Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote:

  Is it just me or are timestamps off on emails coming through to the
 general  members lists?


 On 2/28/2011 11:31 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote:

  My emails to wireless@wispa.org are not getting delivered.



 first one was sent 2 hours ago and still has not gone through



 - Jerry



 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.org]
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 *Sent:* Monday, February 28, 2011 11:28 AM
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 *Subject:* [WISPA] Test



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Re: [WISPA] Test

2011-02-28 Thread Jerry Richardson
1 hour delay

- Jerry

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
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Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 11:31 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Test

My emails to wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org are not getting 
delivered.

first one was sent 2 hours ago and still has not gone through

- Jerry

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Of Rick Harnish
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the storms crossing the country over the weekend.

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Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch

2011-02-28 Thread Travis Johnson
This would be cool however, I'm sure price is the factor. How much 
would you be willing to pay for the 12 port version? My guess is 
something like this would be $600-$800. :(


Travis


On 2/28/2011 10:52 AM, Brad Belton wrote:


And here I am thinking all this time that I was the only one who would 
appreciate a device like this!  I spoke with someone at Streakwave a 
few months ago about this and basically got a blank stare response.  
He had no idea why I would want such a thingsigh


So, to any manufacturers up to the task, here is (IMO) a starting 
point of a bullet point list for the PoE device I'm envisioning:


(1)  Multi-port models.  (e.g. 6, 12  24 ports)

(2)  SNMP  Web Interface Management with ACL firewall.

(3)  Redundant power supplies with separate power cords.  (e.g. UPS 
Blue  UPS Red)


(4)  Dip switch DC polarity selectable per port.  (e.g. Trango/Canopy 
vs. UBNT, etc.)


(5)  Dip switch 12VDC, 24VDC, 48VDC passive and standard 802.3af 
selectable per port.


(6)  1U shallow depth form factor.

(7)  Auto-Ping per port.

(8)  LED Status indicators per port.

(9)  Optional DC power source model for solar sites?

(10)  Optional Trango Apex/Orion GigE model?

What else would be beneficial in the design of this PoE controller?

Best,

Brad

*From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
*On Behalf Of *Mark Nash

*Sent:* Monday, February 28, 2011 10:53 AM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch

I may be off here from the majority, but I don't want a switch.  I 
want to be able to put these onto router ports as well as switch ports.


I just want a rackmount multiport passive PoE controller, manageable 
per port with autoping and redundant power supplies.  Is that so much 
to ask for??? ;)


On 2/25/2011 9:42 PM, Brad Belton wrote:

Once they add remote management, redundant power supplies and a 
Auto-Ping feature they'll have a winner.


Best,

Brad

*From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Jerry Richardson

*Sent:* Friday, February 25, 2011 11:29 PM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch

Just put in a 12 port 24V version of this for a UniFi WLAN. Worked 
flawlessly.


Powered the UBNT PB5 on one of the ports too.

- Jerry

*From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Nick

*Sent:* Friday, February 25, 2011 8:45 PM
*To:* wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch

http://www.streakwave.com/Itemdesc.asp?ic=TP-NCMS312-18eq=Tp= 
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Anyone have a good vendor for a rackmount poe switch for ubnt 
gear?Getting kinda messy with all the zip-ties and double-sided tape 
;)  Thanks!  Jason


  
  
  
  


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Re: [WISPA] High connect rates

2011-02-28 Thread Josh Luthman
Mikrotik firewall is definitely something to learn.  By far the best
interface (IMO).

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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 Thanks for all the help. I really have to take the time to learn mikrotik.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 28, 2011, at 2:56 PM, Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com wrote:

  yes
  ip
  firewall
  filter rules
 
  specify source ip and action of drop to be nice or tar pit if you want to
 me
  mean
 
 
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  F 815.233.6225
  E spi...@computerdyn.com
 
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  From: Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 9:37 AM
  Subject: [WISPA] High connect rates
 
 
  I am experiencing high connect rates from one ip address to all of my
  public ip addresses. It's starting to cause problems. Is there any way
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  stop it in mikrotik?
 
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Re: [WISPA] Problems with 24 port managed switches from Demarc-Tech

2011-02-28 Thread RickG
I had the same issue and canned them. Also, removed my Dell Gigabit
switches. Got brand new HP Proliants and love them!

On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 11:40 PM, rwf ralphli...@bsrg.org wrote:

 When Tony Morella and Demarc-Tech was going out of business last year, we
 bought quite a few of the managed switches he was selling.

 Within a month, they were dropping like flies. Not dying, but just locking
 up with all lights on.

 We asked Tony for assistance but he said he was out of business and to
 contact some place in China.  They never even responded to our requests.



 I’m asking whether anyone else purchased these dogs and if you are having
 the same trouble.



 Does anyone know is there is a firmware update for them?



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Re: [WISPA] Working! WiFi AAA with free ad supported and paid access on one device

2011-02-28 Thread L. Aaron Kaplan

(...)
 Delivered 233,625 ad views over 30 days. 
 http://www.aircloud.com/services/free-wifi/wifi-advertising
  
 The next piece is to implement ad-injection while browsing. Waiting on 
 SilverLining for that.
  

Can you explain a little bit more in detail how you do the ad injection while 
browsing?

Could you inject some javascript into a Web surfing session?


Best,
Aaron.


PS: ... next thought: would this work for example while browsing my online 
banking?
PPS: final thought: can I trust your wifi-advertising services?





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Re: [WISPA] Working! WiFi AAA with free ad supported and paid access on one device

2011-02-28 Thread Chuck Hogg
How many hotspots do you have and where are they located?

Regards,

Chuck


On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 7:03 AM, L. Aaron Kaplan aa...@lo-res.org wrote:


 (...)

 Delivered 233,625 ad views over 30 days.
 http://www.aircloud.com/services/free-wifi/wifi-advertising

 The next piece is to implement ad-injection while browsing. Waiting on
 SilverLining for that.



 Can you explain a little bit more in detail how you do the ad injection
 while browsing?

 Could you inject some javascript into a Web surfing session?


 Best,
 Aaron.


 PS: ... next thought: would this work for example while browsing my online
 banking?
 PPS: final thought: can I trust your wifi-advertising services?







 
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Re: [WISPA] Problems with 24 port managed switches from Demarc-Tech

2011-02-28 Thread Mark Nash

Rick...  We had a Dell Gigabit switch go out.  I think it was a 5324.

What model Proliants are you buying that you love???



On 2/28/2011 1:45 PM, RickG wrote:
I had the same issue and canned them. Also, removed my Dell Gigabit 
switches. Got brand new HP Proliants and love them!


On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 11:40 PM, rwf ralphli...@bsrg.org 
mailto:ralphli...@bsrg.org wrote:


When Tony Morella and Demarc-Tech was going out of business last
year, we bought quite a few of the managed switches he was selling.

Within a month, they were dropping like flies. Not dying, but just
locking up with all lights on.

We asked Tony for assistance but he said he was out of business
and to contact some place in China.  They never even responded to
our requests.

I’m asking whether anyone else purchased these dogs and if you are
having the same trouble.

Does anyone know is there is a firmware update for them?

Ralph






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Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch

2011-02-28 Thread chris
I’m eye balling the DC setup that Kristian put out and so far I think it’s 
looking to be around $1000 for one of my big sites. At this point if it makes 
my life way easier I don’t care how much it costs. I’m sure I’m not the only 
one out there with this opinion.

I agree on most the items that you have listed.

Chris

From: Chuck Hogg 
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 1:27 PM
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch

The problem becomes that something with all those options are going to be more 
expensive than 6,12,24 PoE's.  The market is demanding something cheap, and it 
would be hard to do that cheaply without quantity. 

Regards,

Chuck



On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote:

  And here I am thinking all this time that I was the only one who would 
appreciate a device like this!  I spoke with someone at Streakwave a few months 
ago about this and basically got a blank stare response.  He had no idea why I 
would want such a thing….sigh



  So, to any manufacturers up to the task, here is (IMO) a starting point of a 
bullet point list for the PoE device I’m envisioning:



  (1)  Multi-port models.  (e.g. 6, 12  24 ports) 

  (2)  SNMP  Web Interface Management with ACL firewall.

  (3)  Redundant power supplies with separate power cords.  (e.g. UPS “Blue”  
UPS “Red”)

  (4)  Dip switch DC polarity selectable per port.  (e.g. Trango/Canopy vs. 
UBNT, etc.)

  (5)  Dip switch 12VDC, 24VDC, 48VDC passive and standard 802.3af selectable 
per port.

  (6)  1U shallow depth form factor.

  (7)  Auto-Ping per port.

  (8)  LED Status indicators per port.

  (9)  Optional DC power source model for solar sites?

  (10)  Optional Trango Apex/Orion GigE model?





  What else would be beneficial in the design of this PoE controller?





  Best,





  Brad





  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Mark Nash
  Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 10:53 AM


  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch


  I may be off here from the majority, but I don't want a switch.  I want to be 
able to put these onto router ports as well as switch ports.

  I just want a rackmount multiport passive PoE controller, manageable per port 
with autoping and redundant power supplies.  Is that so much to ask for??? ;)

  On 2/25/2011 9:42 PM, Brad Belton wrote: 

  Once they add remote management, redundant power supplies and a “Auto-Ping” 
feature they’ll have a winner.



  Best,



  Brad



  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Jerry Richardson
  Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 11:29 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch



  Just put in a 12 port 24V version of this for a UniFi WLAN. Worked 
flawlessly. 



  Powered the UBNT PB5 on one of the ports too.



  - Jerry



  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Nick
  Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 8:45 PM
  To: wireless@wispa.org
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch



  http://www.streakwave.com/Itemdesc.asp?ic=TP-NCMS312-18eq=Tp=


  On 2/25/2011 5:52 PM, Jason Bailey wrote: 

Anyone have a good vendor for a rackmount poe switch for ubnt 
gear?Getting kinda messy with all the zip-ties and double-sided tape ;)  
Thanks!  Jason
   




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Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch

2011-02-28 Thread Gino Villarini
Last Mile Gear CTM2 unit got almost all

 

Gino A. Villarini

g...@aeronetpr.com

Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Brad Belton
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 1:52 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch

 

And here I am thinking all this time that I was the only one who would
appreciate a device like this!  I spoke with someone at Streakwave a few
months ago about this and basically got a blank stare response.  He had
no idea why I would want such a thingsigh

 

So, to any manufacturers up to the task, here is (IMO) a starting point
of a bullet point list for the PoE device I'm envisioning:

 

(1)  Multi-port models.  (e.g. 6, 12  24 ports) 

(2)  SNMP  Web Interface Management with ACL firewall.

(3)  Redundant power supplies with separate power cords.  (e.g. UPS
Blue  UPS Red)

(4)  Dip switch DC polarity selectable per port.  (e.g. Trango/Canopy
vs. UBNT, etc.)

(5)  Dip switch 12VDC, 24VDC, 48VDC passive and standard 802.3af
selectable per port.

(6)  1U shallow depth form factor.

(7)  Auto-Ping per port.

(8)  LED Status indicators per port.

(9)  Optional DC power source model for solar sites?

(10)  Optional Trango Apex/Orion GigE model?

 

 

What else would be beneficial in the design of this PoE controller?

 

 

Best,

 

 

Brad

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mark Nash
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 10:53 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch

 

I may be off here from the majority, but I don't want a switch.  I want
to be able to put these onto router ports as well as switch ports.

I just want a rackmount multiport passive PoE controller, manageable per
port with autoping and redundant power supplies.  Is that so much to ask
for??? ;)

On 2/25/2011 9:42 PM, Brad Belton wrote: 

Once they add remote management, redundant power supplies and a
Auto-Ping feature they'll have a winner.

 

Best,

 

Brad

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jerry Richardson
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 11:29 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch

 

Just put in a 12 port 24V version of this for a UniFi WLAN. Worked
flawlessly. 

 

Powered the UBNT PB5 on one of the ports too.

 

- Jerry

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Nick
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 8:45 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch

 

http://www.streakwave.com/Itemdesc.asp?ic=TP-NCMS312-18eq=Tp=


On 2/25/2011 5:52 PM, Jason Bailey wrote: 

Anyone have a good vendor for a rackmount poe switch for ubnt
gear?Getting kinda messy with all the zip-ties and double-sided tape ;)
Thanks!  Jason

 

 
 
 
 


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[WISPA] Ignore: Test delivery delay

2011-02-28 Thread Jerry Richardson
Sent 10:53






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Re: [WISPA] Ignore: Test delivery delay

2011-02-28 Thread Mark Nash

I got 10:54 man...

On 2/28/2011 10:54 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote:


Sent 10:53





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Re: [WISPA] Ignore: Test delivery delay

2011-02-28 Thread David E. Smith
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 12:54, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote:

 Sent 10:53


In what time zone? :)

(Serious answer: our mail filters have been backlogged most of the day,
thanks to an Irish spammer with far too much time on his hands. The queues
are clearing.)

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Re: [WISPA] Ignore: Test delivery delay

2011-02-28 Thread Rick Harnish
You guys better put time zones when you post responses.  It almost looks
like Jerry's computer clock is off to me.  I know he is west coast but he
says he sent at 10:53, email was stamped 12:54 and I show I received in at
6:54. EST. 

 

Rick

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of ch...@htswireless.com
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 6:58 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ignore: Test delivery delay

 

Got it 5:26pm

 

From: Jerry mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com  Richardson 

Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 12:54 PM

To: motor...@afmug.com ; us...@wug.cc ; WISPA General List
mailto:wireless@wispa.org  

Subject: [WISPA] Ignore: Test delivery delay

 

Sent 10:53

 

 

 

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Re: [WISPA] [WUG] Monitoring AC Current

2011-02-28 Thread Matt
 What about using a Hall Effect current clamp?

Thought about that pretty hard.  Actually ordered in some big cheap
cheap torrids to go around the AC line.  Never got time to try it
though.

 Use a bridge regulator on the shunt.  Then meter the output of the bridge.

 Almost exactly what I am looking at doing now.  Have PacketFlux 10 amp
 shunt on order.  Will feed that into isolation transformer then with
 diode, capacitor and resisters convert that to a DC voltage.  Am
 hoping with resistive voltage divider I can convert it to 0 - 300 mv
 since I have other plans for the other 12-30 volt inputs.

 I want to monitor and graph current on a 120V AC line.  Not DC current.



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Re: [WISPA] Ignore: Test delivery delay

2011-02-28 Thread Josh Luthman
8:20pm est this goes out.
On Feb 28, 2011 8:11 PM, Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org wrote:
 You guys better put time zones when you post responses. It almost looks
 like Jerry's computer clock is off to me. I know he is west coast but he
 says he sent at 10:53, email was stamped 12:54 and I show I received in at
 6:54. EST.



 Rick



 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of ch...@htswireless.com
 Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 6:58 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ignore: Test delivery delay



 Got it 5:26pm



 From: Jerry mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com Richardson

 Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 12:54 PM

 To: motor...@afmug.com ; us...@wug.cc ; WISPA General List
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 Subject: [WISPA] Ignore: Test delivery delay



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Re: [WISPA] Ignore: Test delivery delay

2011-02-28 Thread Chuck Hogg
Mine at 8:32PM EST and I received yours at 8:20PM EST.

Regards,

Chuck


On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:

 8:20pm est this goes out.
 On Feb 28, 2011 8:11 PM, Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org wrote:
  You guys better put time zones when you post responses. It almost looks
  like Jerry's computer clock is off to me. I know he is west coast but he
  says he sent at 10:53, email was stamped 12:54 and I show I received in
 at
  6:54. EST.
 
 
 
  Rick
 
 
 
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of ch...@htswireless.com
  Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 6:58 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ignore: Test delivery delay
 
 
 
  Got it 5:26pm
 
 
 
  From: Jerry mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com Richardson
 
  Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 12:54 PM
 
  To: motor...@afmug.com ; us...@wug.cc ; WISPA General List
  mailto:wireless@wispa.org
 
  Subject: [WISPA] Ignore: Test delivery delay
 
 
 
  Sent 10:53
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Ignore: Test delivery delay

2011-02-28 Thread Josh Luthman
Looks good to me...
On Feb 28, 2011 8:33 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:
 Mine at 8:32PM EST and I received yours at 8:20PM EST.

 Regards,

 Chuck


 On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Josh Luthman
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:

 8:20pm est this goes out.
 On Feb 28, 2011 8:11 PM, Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org wrote:
  You guys better put time zones when you post responses. It almost looks
  like Jerry's computer clock is off to me. I know he is west coast but
he
  says he sent at 10:53, email was stamped 12:54 and I show I received in
 at
  6:54. EST.
 
 
 
  Rick
 
 
 
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of ch...@htswireless.com
  Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 6:58 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ignore: Test delivery delay
 
 
 
  Got it 5:26pm
 
 
 
  From: Jerry mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com Richardson
 
  Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 12:54 PM
 
  To: motor...@afmug.com ; us...@wug.cc ; WISPA General List
  mailto:wireless@wispa.org
 
  Subject: [WISPA] Ignore: Test delivery delay
 
 
 
  Sent 10:53
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[WISPA] Solar

2011-02-28 Thread Jeremie Chism
Looking for a solar solution as backup power for two rocket M5's and a small 
switch. This is a remote location with the possibility of a power outage that 
could last a couple days. 

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Re: [WISPA] Solar

2011-02-28 Thread Josh Luthman
Wait is solar your primary source or secondary?
On Feb 28, 2011 10:10 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Looking for a solar solution as backup power for two rocket M5's and a
small switch. This is a remote location with the possibility of a power
outage that could last a couple days.

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Re: [WISPA] Solar

2011-02-28 Thread Jeremie Chism
I'm thinking secondary. There is power there now but when the ice storms come I 
have seen it be days without power. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 28, 2011, at 9:11 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Wait is solar your primary source or secondary?
 
 On Feb 28, 2011 10:10 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote:
  Looking for a solar solution as backup power for two rocket M5's and a 
  small switch. This is a remote location with the possibility of a power 
  outage that could last a couple days. 
  
  Sent from my iPhone
  
  
  
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Re: [WISPA] Solar

2011-02-28 Thread Josh Luthman
Well figure a 10 watt load so get some batteries that hold enough juice for
that number of days.

I think it's Tyson that has the nifty charger where you can do AC and solar
in and POE out easily.  Might need to piece together the charger to POE
part.  I have one sitting on my desk if you're confused.
On Feb 28, 2011 10:14 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm thinking secondary. There is power there now but when the ice storms
come I have seen it be days without power.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 28, 2011, at 9:11 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

 Wait is solar your primary source or secondary?

 On Feb 28, 2011 10:10 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote:
  Looking for a solar solution as backup power for two rocket M5's and a
small switch. This is a remote location with the possibility of a power
outage that could last a couple days.
 
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Re: [WISPA] Ignore: Test delivery delay

2011-02-28 Thread Jerry Richardson
My clock is fine. Not having these issues with any other mail recipients.

Summary of today's messages to wireless@wispa.org:

Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch at 9:23AM PST - never showed up
Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch at 10:35AM PST - never showed up
Ignore: Test delivery delay at 11:31AM PST - never showed up
Re: [WISPA] Test sent at 11:31 - showed up at 12:32PM PST (response to WISPA 
General List; rharn...@wispa.org)
RE: [WISPA] High connect rates sent at 12:42PM - never showed up

- Jerry

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 5:34 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ignore: Test delivery delay


Looks good to me...
On Feb 28, 2011 8:33 PM, Chuck Hogg 
ch...@shelbybb.commailto:ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:
 Mine at 8:32PM EST and I received yours at 8:20PM EST.

 Regards,

 Chuck


 On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Josh Luthman
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:

 8:20pm est this goes out.
 On Feb 28, 2011 8:11 PM, Rick Harnish 
 rharn...@wispa.orgmailto:rharn...@wispa.org wrote:
  You guys better put time zones when you post responses. It almost looks
  like Jerry's computer clock is off to me. I know he is west coast but he
  says he sent at 10:53, email was stamped 12:54 and I show I received in
 at
  6:54. EST.
 
 
 
  Rick
 
 
 
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
  [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of ch...@htswireless.commailto:ch...@htswireless.com
  Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 6:58 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ignore: Test delivery delay
 
 
 
  Got it 5:26pm
 
 
 
  From: Jerry 
  mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com 
  Richardson
 
  Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 12:54 PM
 
  To: motor...@afmug.commailto:motor...@afmug.com ; us...@wug.cc ; WISPA 
  General List
  mailto:wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org
 
  Subject: [WISPA] Ignore: Test delivery delay
 
 
 
  Sent 10:53
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Solar

2011-02-28 Thread Jeremie Chism
That sounds exactly like what we need to do. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 28, 2011, at 9:20 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Well figure a 10 watt load so get some batteries that hold enough juice for 
 that number of days.
 
 I think it's Tyson that has the nifty charger where you can do AC and solar 
 in and POE out easily.  Might need to piece together the charger to POE part. 
  I have one sitting on my desk if you're confused.
 
 On Feb 28, 2011 10:14 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote:
  I'm thinking secondary. There is power there now but when the ice storms 
  come I have seen it be days without power. 
  
  Sent from my iPhone
  
  On Feb 28, 2011, at 9:11 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
  wrote:
  
  Wait is solar your primary source or secondary?
  
  On Feb 28, 2011 10:10 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote:
   Looking for a solar solution as backup power for two rocket M5's and a 
   small switch. This is a remote location with the possibility of a power 
   outage that could last a couple days. 
   
   Sent from my iPhone
   
   
   
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Re: [WISPA] Problems with 24 port managed switches from Demarc-Tech

2011-02-28 Thread RickG
LOL, I said Proliant, I meant ProCurve :)
http://h10144.www1.hp.com/products/switches/HP_ProCurve_Switch_1800_Series/overview.htm

On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 5:16 PM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote:

  Rick...  We had a Dell Gigabit switch go out.  I think it was a 5324.

 What model Proliants are you buying that you love???



 On 2/28/2011 1:45 PM, RickG wrote:

 I had the same issue and canned them. Also, removed my Dell Gigabit
 switches. Got brand new HP Proliants and love them!

 On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 11:40 PM, rwf ralphli...@bsrg.org wrote:

  When Tony Morella and Demarc-Tech was going out of business last year,
 we bought quite a few of the managed switches he was selling.

 Within a month, they were dropping like flies. Not dying, but just locking
 up with all lights on.

 We asked Tony for assistance but he said he was out of business and to
 contact some place in China.  They never even responded to our requests.



 I’m asking whether anyone else purchased these dogs and if you are having
 the same trouble.



 Does anyone know is there is a firmware update for them?



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Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch

2011-02-28 Thread rwf
Several years ago Proxim made a wireless system called Harmony.
Their midspan POE (model 7562) is the device that fits what the OP was
looking for.
They are around Ebay and some of the surplus dealers.
I can't remember the configuration but I think it was 6 ports.
The Power output was the normal 4/5  7/8 and was, I think 12-18 volts.

http://www4.shopping.com/Proxim-Harmony-power-system/info

http://cgi.ebay.com/Proxim-Harmony-Proxim-Harmony-7562-/280425765945?pt=LH_D
efaultDomain_0hash=item414aad9c39

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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Charles N Wyble
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 3:45 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch

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Hash: SHA1

On 02/28/2011 09:52 AM, Brad Belton wrote:
 And here I am thinking all this time that I was the only one who would 
 appreciate a device like this!  I spoke with someone at Streakwave a 
 few months ago about this and basically got a blank stare response.  
 He had no idea why I would want such a thing..sigh
 
  
 
 So, to any manufacturers up to the task, here is (IMO) a starting 
 point of a bullet point list for the PoE device I'm envisioning:
 
  
 
 (1)  Multi-port models.  (e.g. 6, 12  24 ports)

Of course.

 
 (2)  SNMP  Web Interface Management with ACL firewall.

Explain more? What do you want to query via SNMP? Write via SNMP? Why does
it need an ACL system? Why not just use your existing network security
system to keep people out? You do have a dedicated infrastructure management
network right?

 
 (3)  Redundant power supplies with separate power cords.  (e.g. UPS 
 Blue  UPS Red)

Of course. How much power would need to come in? Would the power supplies be
hot swappable?

 
 (4)  Dip switch DC polarity selectable per port.  (e.g. Trango/Canopy vs.
 UBNT, etc.)


 
 (5)  Dip switch 12VDC, 24VDC, 48VDC passive and standard 802.3af 
 selectable per port.


Hmmm. Why not just do this via software interface (like cisco poe switch for
example). That would make the most sense to me.

 
 (6)  1U shallow depth form factor.

Naturally

 
 (7)  Auto-Ping per port.

What does this mean? Is this like an iboot where if it doesn't receive a
heartbeat in specified time period it cycles power on the port? Of course
you would be able to disable this when doing maintenance that is a longer
outage (like say flashing firmware or something)

 
 (8)  LED Status indicators per port.

Why? Just give it via SNMP/web interface. (Guess I'm just so used to being a
remote support person that I never expect to have local access.
Have managed 10s of thousands of remote systems that I never saw).

 
 (9)  Optional DC power source model for solar sites?

DC power is a requirement I think. On every model.

 
 (10)  Optional Trango Apex/Orion GigE model?

Don't know what this is. Maybe others on the list will?

 What else would be beneficial in the design of this PoE controller?

Think you about covered it.

One thinks Cisco would do something like this and make it fairly dumb/cheap.
They already meet all your above requirements (well don't know about
redundant power supply on 1U but I imagine that could easily be done).

 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
 On Behalf Of Mark Nash
 Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 10:53 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch
 
  
 
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