Re: [WISPA] What is everybody using for alarms?

2011-09-24 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
Hi Ed

I was looking also for something that sends one report email in case 
of failure when multiple nodes are down. If 50 nodes are down and part 
of the network is cut out, I will receive 50 emails. I would prefer one 
email that summarize what went down and what when up, i.e. the state 
change when occurs.

anybody has found something with this approach?

Thank you

 Have been using the Dude as my production monitor for over 3 years,
 works great. Monitoring DS3 and wireless backhauls, Metro-E, wireless
 and DSL subs. Also Routers, switches and server services.

 Ed Spoon
 Manager of Internet Services
 triparish.net http://triparish.net / cajun.net http://cajun.net
 Member: FISPA / WISPA
 Ph: 985-879-3219 / Fax: 985-876-6789
 Computer Sales  Services, Inc.




 On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Paolo Di Francesco
 paolo.difrance...@level7.it mailto:paolo.difrance...@level7.it wrote:

 hum.. I don't know... I tested the dude a couple of years ago and it had
 the bad habit to reset the configuration, but maybe it was the
 unstability of the version

 Do you have it in production without any issue?

 Thank you

   Dude. It e-mails, creates sounds, and even tells you where the
 problem is!
  
   *---
   **_Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer_**
   **Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik  WISP Support Services
   Office*: 314-735-0270 tel:314-735-0270 tel:314-735-0270
 tel:314-735-0270 *Website*:
   http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/
   */LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training
   http://www.onlinemikrotiktraining.com/ - Author of Learn RouterOS
   http://routerosbook.com//*
  
   *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org
 mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
   *On Behalf Of *Nick Olsen
   *Sent:* Monday, September 19, 2011 9:48 AM
   *To:* WISPA General List
   *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] What is everybody using for alarms?
  
   We use PRTG, The latest one.
  
   We watch the web client for down devices, And the important stuff
 alerts
   us via email and text message.
  
   Nick Olsen
   Network Operations
  
   (855) FLSPEED x106
  
  
 
  
   *From*: Paolo Di Francesco paolo.difrance...@level7.it
 mailto:paolo.difrance...@level7.it
   *Sent*: Monday, September 19, 2011 10:46 AM
   *To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 mailto:wireless@wispa.org
   *Subject*: [WISPA] What is everybody using for alarms?
  
   Hi all
  
   I am curious to know what kind of alarm system you have
 implemented to
   see when a link/router is no more reachable on the net.
  
   Nagios or similar?
  
   any hint would be appreciated :)
  
   thank you
  
  
   --
  
  
   Ing. Paolo Di Francesco
  
   Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale
  
   Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo
  
   C.F. e P.IVA 05940050825
   Fax : +39-091-8772072 tel:%2B39-091-8772072
   assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432 tel:%28%2B39%29%20091-8776432
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Re: [WISPA] What is everybody using for alarms?

2011-09-24 Thread Eric Rogers
We use Mikrotik's The Dude.  To accomplish what you are asking, we setup
Parents to each node.  Now, if the core router is down, we don't get an
email for each AP, switch, ups, EMU, or camera, but we get notified that
that tower's main router went down.  Basically, now we only get the
individual towers that are down, and maybe backhauls to/from each one.

Eric

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 7:36 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] What is everybody using for alarms?

Hi Ed

I was looking also for something that sends one report email in case
of failure when multiple nodes are down. If 50 nodes are down and part
of the network is cut out, I will receive 50 emails. I would prefer one
email that summarize what went down and what when up, i.e. the state
change when occurs.

anybody has found something with this approach?

Thank you

 Have been using the Dude as my production monitor for over 3 years, 
 works great. Monitoring DS3 and wireless backhauls, Metro-E, wireless 
 and DSL subs. Also Routers, switches and server services.

 Ed Spoon
 Manager of Internet Services
 triparish.net http://triparish.net / cajun.net http://cajun.net
 Member: FISPA / WISPA
 Ph: 985-879-3219 / Fax: 985-876-6789
 Computer Sales  Services, Inc.




 On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Paolo Di Francesco 
 paolo.difrance...@level7.it mailto:paolo.difrance...@level7.it
wrote:

 hum.. I don't know... I tested the dude a couple of years ago and
it had
 the bad habit to reset the configuration, but maybe it was the
 unstability of the version

 Do you have it in production without any issue?

 Thank you

   Dude. It e-mails, creates sounds, and even tells you where the
 problem is!
  
   *---
   **_Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer_**
   **Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik  WISP Support Services
   Office*: 314-735-0270 tel:314-735-0270 tel:314-735-0270
 tel:314-735-0270 *Website*:
   http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/
   */LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training
   http://www.onlinemikrotiktraining.com/ - Author of Learn
RouterOS
   http://routerosbook.com//*
  
   *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org
 mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
   *On Behalf Of *Nick Olsen
   *Sent:* Monday, September 19, 2011 9:48 AM
   *To:* WISPA General List
   *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] What is everybody using for alarms?
  
   We use PRTG, The latest one.
  
   We watch the web client for down devices, And the important
stuff
 alerts
   us via email and text message.
  
   Nick Olsen
   Network Operations
  
   (855) FLSPEED x106
  
  


  
   *From*: Paolo Di Francesco paolo.difrance...@level7.it
 mailto:paolo.difrance...@level7.it
   *Sent*: Monday, September 19, 2011 10:46 AM
   *To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 mailto:wireless@wispa.org
   *Subject*: [WISPA] What is everybody using for alarms?
  
   Hi all
  
   I am curious to know what kind of alarm system you have
 implemented to
   see when a link/router is no more reachable on the net.
  
   Nagios or similar?
  
   any hint would be appreciated :)
  
   thank you
  
  
   --
  
  
   Ing. Paolo Di Francesco
  
   Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale
  
   Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo
  
   C.F. e P.IVA 05940050825
   Fax : +39-091-8772072 tel:%2B39-091-8772072
   assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432 tel:%28%2B39%29%20091-8776432
   web: http://www.level7.it
  
  
  
  
  
  



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Re: [WISPA] UBNT

2011-09-24 Thread Mike Hammett
I agree, but I can get more throughput on my phone in metro Chicago than 
is available in most rural areas. I have topped 8 megs. My friend has 
topped 20 megs on his in metro Chicago.


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On 9/23/2011 5:53 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:


Mobile wireless systems cannot deliver the speeds and network 
performance that is needed to take full advantage of 
broadband.Smartphones and mobile wireless networks have their places, 
but they are not, and will never be, a substitute for a fixed wireless 
or wireline broadband system.


Matt Larsen
vistabeam.com

On 9/23/2011 3:25 PM, Robert Canary wrote:

True. However, one buys the better longer-lasting gear, at a significant 
price increase.  And within the 2 years {just as they get it all paid for}, the demand 
changes, the new systems work faster, and you end up spending all your business putting 
money into the manufactures and retailer's pockets.  I have been doing this for 12 years. 
 Trust me . spend your big bucks on the backhaul systems and internal infrastructure. 
 Go absolutely as cheap as you can for access points and CPE.

In another 10 years it will not matter anyway.  *Everything* will be done 
through you're cell phone.  Blue tooth to your laptop and to the internet you 
go @ 4Meg speeds.

Robert Canary
OCDirect Electrical-Datacomm
(866) 594-0786 Fax
(270) 955-0362 Voice

- Original Message -

There are other considerations besides cost.  It's important to
consider total cost of ownership. What devices cost you the least to
put up?  How does that square up with longevity?  What causes the
fewest repeat truck rolls and gives the greatest customer experience?
How does it scale across a large network?

Thanks,

Chris Cooper

On Sep 23, 2011, at 4:30 PM,jch...@tritontelephone.com  wrote:


I'm not knocking motorola. It has it's place. (god knows I loved my
startac:) but for the money ubnt makes Norte sense.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 23, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Robert Canary
rwcan...@mchn39.ocdirect.net

wrote:
I know this is bogus.  I ran Motorola and it was the worst system
I
had ever deployed.  I thought I was doing great, until I started
runnng AirSpan and Alvarion.  It wasn't long I was on the phone
selling *all* my motorola to my competitors.

Robert Canary
OCDirect Electrical-Datacomm
(866) 594-0786 Fax
(270) 955-0362 Voice

- Original Message -

Here is a radio comparison test done at the last animal farm.

www.linktechs.net/AF2011_Bakeoff.pdf

Jim

-Original Message-
From:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
Behalf Of Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 12:05 PM
To:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT

Which UBNT 2.4 or 5.7 radios will do 45MB duplex over two miles.
Thanks
Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe
AS Technologies Ltd
Tel. 234(0)8023258027


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Re: [WISPA] UBNT

2011-09-24 Thread Travis Johnson

But can you play WoW on your smartphone? :)

Travis

On 9/24/2011 5:17 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
I agree, but I can get more throughput on my phone in metro Chicago 
than is available in most rural areas. I have topped 8 megs. My friend 
has topped 20 megs on his in metro Chicago.

-
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Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


On 9/23/2011 5:53 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:


Mobile wireless systems cannot deliver the speeds and network 
performance that is needed to take full advantage of 
broadband.Smartphones and mobile wireless networks have their places, 
but they are not, and will never be, a substitute for a fixed 
wireless or wireline broadband system.


Matt Larsen
vistabeam.com

On 9/23/2011 3:25 PM, Robert Canary wrote:

True. However, one buys the better longer-lasting gear, at a significant 
price increase.  And within the 2 years {just as they get it all paid for}, the demand 
changes, the new systems work faster, and you end up spending all your business putting 
money into the manufactures and retailer's pockets.  I have been doing this for 12 years. 
 Trust me . spend your big bucks on the backhaul systems and internal infrastructure. 
 Go absolutely as cheap as you can for access points and CPE.

In another 10 years it will not matter anyway.  *Everything* will be done 
through you're cell phone.  Blue tooth to your laptop and to the internet you 
go @ 4Meg speeds.

Robert Canary
OCDirect Electrical-Datacomm
(866) 594-0786 Fax
(270) 955-0362 Voice

- Original Message -

There are other considerations besides cost.  It's important to
consider total cost of ownership. What devices cost you the least to
put up?  How does that square up with longevity?  What causes the
fewest repeat truck rolls and gives the greatest customer experience?
How does it scale across a large network?

Thanks,

Chris Cooper

On Sep 23, 2011, at 4:30 PM,jch...@tritontelephone.com  wrote:


I'm not knocking motorola. It has it's place. (god knows I loved my
startac:) but for the money ubnt makes Norte sense.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 23, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Robert Canary
rwcan...@mchn39.ocdirect.net

wrote:
I know this is bogus.  I ran Motorola and it was the worst system
I
had ever deployed.  I thought I was doing great, until I started
runnng AirSpan and Alvarion.  It wasn't long I was on the phone
selling *all* my motorola to my competitors.

Robert Canary
OCDirect Electrical-Datacomm
(866) 594-0786 Fax
(270) 955-0362 Voice

- Original Message -

Here is a radio comparison test done at the last animal farm.

www.linktechs.net/AF2011_Bakeoff.pdf

Jim

-Original Message-
From:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
Behalf Of Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 12:05 PM
To:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT

Which UBNT 2.4 or 5.7 radios will do 45MB duplex over two miles.
Thanks
Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe
AS Technologies Ltd
Tel. 234(0)8023258027


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Re: [WISPA] UBNT

2011-09-24 Thread Mike Hammett

I've never tried WoW. ;-)  Maybe I should try other games, though.

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On 9/24/2011 6:45 PM, Travis Johnson wrote:

But can you play WoW on your smartphone? :)

Travis

On 9/24/2011 5:17 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
I agree, but I can get more throughput on my phone in metro Chicago 
than is available in most rural areas. I have topped 8 megs. My 
friend has topped 20 megs on his in metro Chicago.

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


On 9/23/2011 5:53 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:


Mobile wireless systems cannot deliver the speeds and network 
performance that is needed to take full advantage of 
broadband.Smartphones and mobile wireless networks have their 
places, but they are not, and will never be, a substitute for a 
fixed wireless or wireline broadband system.


Matt Larsen
vistabeam.com

On 9/23/2011 3:25 PM, Robert Canary wrote:

True. However, one buys the better longer-lasting gear, at a significant 
price increase.  And within the 2 years {just as they get it all paid for}, the demand 
changes, the new systems work faster, and you end up spending all your business putting 
money into the manufactures and retailer's pockets.  I have been doing this for 12 years. 
 Trust me . spend your big bucks on the backhaul systems and internal infrastructure. 
 Go absolutely as cheap as you can for access points and CPE.

In another 10 years it will not matter anyway.  *Everything* will be done 
through you're cell phone.  Blue tooth to your laptop and to the internet you 
go @ 4Meg speeds.

Robert Canary
OCDirect Electrical-Datacomm
(866) 594-0786 Fax
(270) 955-0362 Voice

- Original Message -

There are other considerations besides cost.  It's important to
consider total cost of ownership. What devices cost you the least to
put up?  How does that square up with longevity?  What causes the
fewest repeat truck rolls and gives the greatest customer experience?
How does it scale across a large network?

Thanks,

Chris Cooper

On Sep 23, 2011, at 4:30 PM,jch...@tritontelephone.com  wrote:


I'm not knocking motorola. It has it's place. (god knows I loved my
startac:) but for the money ubnt makes Norte sense.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 23, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Robert Canary
rwcan...@mchn39.ocdirect.net

wrote:
I know this is bogus.  I ran Motorola and it was the worst system
I
had ever deployed.  I thought I was doing great, until I started
runnng AirSpan and Alvarion.  It wasn't long I was on the phone
selling *all* my motorola to my competitors.

Robert Canary
OCDirect Electrical-Datacomm
(866) 594-0786 Fax
(270) 955-0362 Voice

- Original Message -

Here is a radio comparison test done at the last animal farm.

www.linktechs.net/AF2011_Bakeoff.pdf

Jim

-Original Message-
From:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
Behalf Of Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 12:05 PM
To:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT

Which UBNT 2.4 or 5.7 radios will do 45MB duplex over two miles.
Thanks
Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe
AS Technologies Ltd
Tel. 234(0)8023258027


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Re: [WISPA] What is everybody using for alarms?

2011-09-24 Thread Simon Westlake
We use Intermapper but The Dude works too. Intermapper is less flexible but a 
little easier to setup and maintain, especially for less technical people (we 
have our tech support people adding customers, etc a lot)

- Reply message -
From: Eric Rogers ecrog...@precisionds.com
Date: Sat, Sep 24, 2011 12:43 pm
Subject: [WISPA] What is everybody using for alarms?
To: paolo.difrance...@level7.it, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org

We use Mikrotik's The Dude.  To accomplish what you are asking, we setup
Parents to each node.  Now, if the core router is down, we don't get an
email for each AP, switch, ups, EMU, or camera, but we get notified that
that tower's main router went down.  Basically, now we only get the
individual towers that are down, and maybe backhauls to/from each one.

Eric

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 7:36 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] What is everybody using for alarms?

Hi Ed

I was looking also for something that sends one report email in case
of failure when multiple nodes are down. If 50 nodes are down and part
of the network is cut out, I will receive 50 emails. I would prefer one
email that summarize what went down and what when up, i.e. the state
change when occurs.

anybody has found something with this approach?

Thank you

 Have been using the Dude as my production monitor for over 3 years, 
 works great. Monitoring DS3 and wireless backhauls, Metro-E, wireless 
 and DSL subs. Also Routers, switches and server services.

 Ed Spoon
 Manager of Internet Services
 triparish.net http://triparish.net / cajun.net http://cajun.net
 Member: FISPA / WISPA
 Ph: 985-879-3219 / Fax: 985-876-6789
 Computer Sales  Services, Inc.




 On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Paolo Di Francesco 
 paolo.difrance...@level7.it mailto:paolo.difrance...@level7.it
wrote:

 hum.. I don't know... I tested the dude a couple of years ago and
it had
 the bad habit to reset the configuration, but maybe it was the
 unstability of the version

 Do you have it in production without any issue?

 Thank you

   Dude. It e-mails, creates sounds, and even tells you where the
 problem is!
  
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   *On Behalf Of *Nick Olsen
   *Sent:* Monday, September 19, 2011 9:48 AM
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   *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] What is everybody using for alarms?
  
   We use PRTG, The latest one.
  
   We watch the web client for down devices, And the important
stuff
 alerts
   us via email and text message.
  
   Nick Olsen
   Network Operations
  
   (855) FLSPEED x106
  
  


  
   *From*: Paolo Di Francesco paolo.difrance...@level7.it
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   *Sent*: Monday, September 19, 2011 10:46 AM
   *To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
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   *Subject*: [WISPA] What is everybody using for alarms?
  
   Hi all
  
   I am curious to know what kind of alarm system you have
 implemented to
   see when a link/router is no more reachable on the net.
  
   Nagios or similar?
  
   any hint would be appreciated :)
  
   thank you
  
  
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Re: [WISPA] UBNT

2011-09-24 Thread Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe
The Motorola canopy is one of the best equipment I've ever used. I have a 7 
year old link that has never faltered. Upgraded the firmware twice but that's 
about it. Only problems the price. Trying UBNT because of Mikrotiks success. I 
usually prefer to pay for technology rather than buying cheap and spending 
forever tweaking it.

Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe
AS Technologies Ltd
Tel. 234(0)8023258027



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