Re: [WISPA] DMCA Takedown

2011-09-27 Thread Scott Reed
Section 512(a) http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/512.html protects service providers who are passive conduits from liability for copyright infringement, even if infringing traffic passes through their networks. In other words, provided the infringing material is being transmitted at the

Re: [WISPA] DMCA Takedown

2011-09-27 Thread Andy Trimmell
Sounds like something my dad would do. I hope to be a dad like that. Builds character! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 4:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DMCA Takedown Our

Re: [WISPA] DMCA Takedown

2011-09-27 Thread Andy Trimmell
Well since these people aren't using our servers to keep their illegal software this section should cover it since it's their computer that has the illegal software not ours. § 512(a) Transitory Network Communications Safe Harbor Section 512(a) protects service providers who are passive

Re: [WISPA] DMCA Takedown

2011-09-27 Thread Justin Wilson
Start reading here for ISPS: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_Copyright_Infringement_Liability_Limita tion_Act#Other_Defenses_for_OSPs The legal advice I have been given has always been e-mail is not a legal document. Responding to e-mails is more of a courtesy/CYA than anything. Make sure

[WISPA] LIGOWAVE PTP24-2

2011-09-27 Thread Jawad A Hai
Hello, Have any body used this product LIGOPTP24-2. Its on 24 GHZ unlicensed spectrum, does not need an IDU unit. How is the product and does it really delivers what the vendor promises. I need about 100 Mbps link, sites have LOS, distance is around 5 KM. don't wanna use 5 ghz band its really

Re: [WISPA] LIGOWAVE PTP24-2

2011-09-27 Thread Nick W
Alignment can be a pain, but once it's set up it's solid. Make sure they're mounted to something solid. I have one shooting ~3 miles and can push 100/100 Mbps through it. On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Jawad A Hai ahja...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello, Have any body used this product

Re: [WISPA] DMCA Takedown

2011-09-27 Thread Eric Rogers
I wanted to thank everyone for their input. I am trying to summarize what I have found. I found a great informational site maintained by Stanford University. http://www.chillingeffects.org/piracy/notice.cgi?NoticeID=973. It has many links and FAQ for a basis to make decisions. It basically

Re: [WISPA] LIGOWAVE PTP24-2

2011-09-27 Thread Me
5.4 GHz has to be open. Use an Exalt link on 5:4 and you can get up to 440 aggregate with an 80/20 traffic split. Much cheaper than a Ligowave W4 Ghz Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless -Original message- From: Nick W lists-wi...@atomsplash.com To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] LIGOWAVE PTP24-2

2011-09-27 Thread Me
Let me clarify.A 160 Mbps Extendair will give you close to 100 for about 30 percent less with 2 year warranty Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless -Original message- From: Nick W lists-wi...@atomsplash.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tue, Sep 27, 2011

Re: [WISPA] LIGOWAVE PTP24-2

2011-09-27 Thread Mathew Howard
If I remember correctly that's a re-branded SAF. We have a SAF Lumina 24ghz unlicensed link, and it's been working flawlessly and does exactly what was promised. It's basically the exact same stuff as their licensed radios. 5 KM shouldn't be a problem for 24GHZ, but I think that does depend on

Re: [WISPA] LIGOWAVE PTP24-2

2011-09-27 Thread Mathew Howard
3.65ghz could be an option as well. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Me Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 1:57 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] LIGOWAVE PTP24-2 5.4 GHz has to be open. Use an Exalt link on 5:4 and you can get up to

Re: [WISPA] LIGOWAVE PTP24-2

2011-09-27 Thread Gino Villarini
For 100 mbps fdx? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 3:10 PM To: 'WISPA General List'

Re: [WISPA] LIGOWAVE PTP24-2

2011-09-27 Thread Josh Luthman
Why spend $10k for a 24ghz unlicensed link and 100 mbps when you could spend $12k for a licensed link and 366 mbps? Small amount of money (in the sense of this project) for a much greater return. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On

Re: [WISPA] LIGOWAVE PTP24-2

2011-09-27 Thread Mathew Howard
The main reason for doing it is that you don't have to wait for the licensing stuff to go through, and there aren't really any disadvantages for short links (ours is less than 2 miles). You can actually get 366mbps with 24ghz for $10k - SAF makes the same radios for the same price for 24ghz

Re: [WISPA] LIGOWAVE PTP24-2

2011-09-27 Thread Gino Villarini
yes, and with good shopping you can get them for way less than $10k Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Tuesday, September

Re: [WISPA] LIGOWAVE PTP24-2

2011-09-27 Thread Mathew Howard
Umm… no, not 100mbps fdx, but I would think you should be able to get pretty close to 100mbps aggregate. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 2:19 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA]

Re: [WISPA] LIGOWAVE PTP24-2

2011-09-27 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
What makes the Exalt Radios on 5.4 better than any other ptp radios for such application ? (doing MIMO on a 40Mhz channel will /should provide approx 90meg duplex). ?? (I guess you are suggesting to the original poster Have you considered using 5.4 Mimo Radios before you spend the bucks

Re: [WISPA] LIGOWAVE PTP24-2

2011-09-27 Thread Gino Villarini
PTP600 does 150 mbps duplex on 30 mhz Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 4:14 PM To: WISPA

Re: [WISPA] LIGOWAVE PTP24-2

2011-09-27 Thread Bob Moldashel
We have tested several manufacturers radios on 5.4 in the metro NYC area and Exalt is the only manufacturer that has not blacklisted channels or shut down on false DFS hits related to noise. There are others but this is my preference. Exalt (EX5r) will provide 440 Mbps on a 64 MHz. channel.

Re: [WISPA] LIGOWAVE PTP24-2

2011-09-27 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Cool. Nice this is the info I was looking for.. BTW can u share what one can expect to pay (cost) of such a link ? Thanks. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net On

Re: [WISPA] LIGOWAVE PTP24-2

2011-09-27 Thread Gino Villarini
How the Motorola PTP units did on your tests? Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Sep 27, 2011, at 7:08 PM, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.netmailto:lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: We have tested several manufacturers radios on 5.4 in the metro NYC area and Exalt is the only manufacturer that has not

Re: [WISPA] DMCA Takedown

2011-09-27 Thread Rick Harnish
Eric, If you get some quotes on the legal advice, send an email to the WISPA Board requesting assistance. This obviously affects all WISPs and is something the Board should be willing to help finance. Respectfully, Rick Harnish Executive Director WISPA 260-307-4000 cell 866-317-2851 Option 2

Re: [WISPA] Power for tower sites

2011-09-27 Thread Justin Wilson
I have seen the all DC thing done a few ways. 1.2 deep cycle batteries for the 24 volt stuff and 1 12 volt for routers. This requires 2 chargers. The advantage is you can power the routers without them overheating, especially the 450's. 2.You can get a box which steps down voltage from 24 to

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