[WISPA] Rime Ice?

2012-01-30 Thread Bret Clark
Anyone have to deal with rime ice on antenna's? We need to build a PTP link that will be on a top of a mountain that's notorious for rime Ice. It would be a 5GHz link with sturdy 3ft radome but I'm not aware at what effect rime ice might have on 5GHz signal if any? Googling hasn't really

Re: [WISPA] Rime Ice?

2012-01-30 Thread Cameron Crum
With a radome, the ice shouldn't be too much of an issue unless it gets really thick. I had some dished here in Texas that I did not put radomes on, thinking that the one or two days of ice we get a year would not matter. With about 1/2 inch of ice directly on the end of the feed, my throughput

Re: [WISPA] Rime Ice?

2012-01-30 Thread Bret Clark
Yeah, being in New England area we use Radome's on most of radios on high locations, but this one would be on top of a ski mountain and there are other cell phone provider antenna's up there covered pretty think with rime ice. I know in general ice doesn't attenuate 5Ghz too bad, but it looks

Re: [WISPA] Rime Ice?

2012-01-30 Thread Chuck Hogg
Use Travis Johnson's method of putting a black thick mil trash bag on it...the blowing in the wind will shake loose any potential for rime ice. Regards, Chuck On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.comwrote: Yeah, being in New England area we use Radome's on most of

Re: [WISPA] Rime Ice?

2012-01-30 Thread Bret Clark
Interesting idea, Bret On 01/30/2012 03:04 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: Use Travis Johnson's method of putting a black thick mil trash bag on it...the blowing in the wind will shake loose any potential for rime ice. Regards, Chuck On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com

Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Link gone bonkers

2012-01-30 Thread Scott Reed
Update after more work today. Replaced all the electronics at one end early this morning. No real change. Replace the cable and antenna at that end this afternoon. When we got there the link was running with RSSI of around 67/70 and CCQ in the 50's both ways. Aligned the antenna and I watch

Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Link gone bonkers

2012-01-30 Thread Eric Rogers
To me, that really sounds like interference. Don't look at the noise floor. Get a UBNT in spectrum analyzer mode, and let it run for a little bit. I bet you find something bleeding over the frequency. Eric -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Link gone bonkers

2012-01-30 Thread Greg Ihnen
+1 on getting something that does spectral analysis. Any new neighbors on the tower you're sharing? Any new gear they might have turned up? Greg On Jan 30, 2012, at 8:08 PM, Eric Rogers wrote: To me, that really sounds like interference. Don't look at the noise floor. Get a UBNT in

Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Link gone bonkers

2012-01-30 Thread Scott Reed
I will certainly be getting a UBNT something on at least one tower to see what is going on. I did e-mail the big tower owner about changes on it. I know we are the only operation on the smaller tower. On 1/30/2012 8:32 PM, Greg Ihnen wrote: +1 on getting something that does spectral analysis.

Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Link gone bonkers

2012-01-30 Thread gregosborn
Scott, I've seen this with 2.4 ubnt and the airview results were misleading Trial and error was the only thing that helped me find the best channel... Spent the better part of two days fighting it. I put too must faith on the spectrum analysis and it sent me chasing my tail. Sent from

Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Link gone bonkers

2012-01-30 Thread Scott Reed
I do want to look at it, but I have tried these links in the 5.3 range just to see what happened. No real difference, so I am not yet convinced that interference is it, but I can not come up with anything else. On 1/30/2012 9:41 PM, gregosb...@onlyinternet.net wrote: Scott, I've seen this

Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Link gone bonkers

2012-01-30 Thread Bob Moldashel
Scott, Can you give us an idea of link distance and antennas you are using. Is the 30' piece of LMR400 a factory made jumper of did you put the connectors on? Weatherproofing? Lightning arrestors? Pigtail jumpers? Trying to get an idea of what your link budget should be and where you

Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Link gone bonkers

2012-01-30 Thread Gary Garrett
Interference. Don't believe the noise floor reading. I do not think it is implemented correctly on the Atheros chip. On 1/30/2012 4:28 PM, Scott Reed wrote: Update after more work today. Replaced all the electronics at one end early this morning. No real change. Replace the cable and

Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Link gone bonkers

2012-01-30 Thread Josh Luthman
You can with the newer stuff in MT and Ubnt. The noise floor in not spectrum scan modes is complete garbage, like you say. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 30, 2012 11:41 PM, Gary Garrett ggarr...@nidaho.net wrote: