[WISPA] State Mapping update.

[Jim Patient]

Below is an updated list of the states mapping agencies that have access
to download your coverage maps from our site.  If your using the site,
please go into your settings and allow the agencies access to your maps.
If your coverage isn't shown on the national broadband map it makes it
that much easier for the huge telcos to get government funding to roll
out in your area.  We are adding more states so even if you're not in
one of these, allow access.  Your state agency should be added soon.
They can only the get info you allow.

 

CA, VA, AK, IA, PR, MI, NV, TN, MN, OH, SC, TX, FL, MO, DE, OK, GA, RI,
AZ, LA, NJ, IL, WA

 

Thx,

 

Jim Patient

Link Technologies, Inc.

314-735-0270 x102

http://wlan1.com 

http://towercoverage.com  

http://www.linktechs.net   

 

 

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Re: [WISPA] FCC broadband deployment report

[Mike Hammett]

My county and a few others near me are 100% covered by fixed wireless. Those 
that aren't are mostly above 95%. So they're not against a given technology. It 
must just be an issue with your specific data. As of the June 2011 data, did 
you provide at least 3/768 across the areas that are missing?



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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

- Original Message -
From: "John Scrivner" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 11:41:57 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC broadband deployment report


I have done all that you ask here. I am on EVERY other map ever made by ALL 
other agencies and they act like I do not exist on this one. Total BS. 
Scriv 



On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 5:15 PM, Jack Unger < jun...@ask-wi.com > wrote: 



1. WISPs need to submit their information. 

2. WISPs need to be diligent about working with their State mapping agency to 
correct wrong information. 

No one else is going to do it for us. 






On 8/23/2012 2:59 PM, Ryan Ghering wrote: 


wow, they have my area as covered as NON-Rural DSL and Cable no
wireless links at all..

I think someone "fixed" the books on this info. As its completely BS..

1. everything out here in our area is Rural..
2. No wireless listed at ALL ( there are 2 providers ourselves and the
telco to the south of us)
3. The local cable company has only a handful of customers
4. says that over 3500 folks in my county have NO internet.. Complete
and total BS.. This is farm country and I'd PAY to find more than 50
homes that don't have internet.

Again.. the books have been cooked, thanks to either bad info or competition.

On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote: 

if you hover over a county a popup chart on the right shows up and
displays the demographics for that county and % of broadband that is
Fiber, Cable, DSL, or fixed wireless.  both the counties we serve show
0% fixed wireless.

-sean


On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 3:48 PM, Chris Fabien  wrote: 

Our coverage area is not displayed on that map.
Is it only including wireline providers?

On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote: 

Hi all,

Sorry for all the cross posts on multiple lists but this seems
troubling to me.  We submitted our coverage data to the state of
Colorado and they submitted our data for the national map.  However,
this FCC broadband deployment report includes this map which doesn't
show our coverage.

Report: http://www.fcc.gov/reports/eighth-broadband-progress-report Map: 
http://www.fcc.gov/maps/section-706-fixed-broadband-deployment-map What 
gives???  WISPA???

Is anyone else noticing their coverage area is not included?

Best regards,


Sean Heskett
ZIRKEL Wireless
High-speed Internet www.zirkelwireless.com 970-871-8500 
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Re: [WISPA] [AFMUG] RE: FCC broadband deployment report

[John Scrivner]

Doh! I guess this is what happened. I did all my upgrades and reported
those higher speeds on the next Form 477.
Scriv


On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Brian Webster <
bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com> wrote:

> Rick,
>
> Andrew is no longer with the NTIA. I took some time to
> review this FCC report and can shed some light on what problems people are
> seeing. First this data is compiled from round 4 which was current as of
> June 2011. If anyone updated or provided data to their states this last
> round, your data will not show in this report. Second, the data shown does
> include fixed wireless service but not satellite or cellular. What they
> appear to have done is create a merge of data. In the report they tried to
> replicate the 4 meg down 1 meg up national broadband plan set as the
> national goal. The national broadband map was created before the wonderful
> people who wrote that report had the brilliant idea of defining something
> that is not part of the map standards. Give that problem the FCC decided to
> use the category of 3 meg or greater as the download speed and 768 or
> greater as the upload speed. If any WISP has reported data in round 4 or
> earlier that does not meet those speed tiers, it was not used in this
> report.
>
> As with any mapping and report it is very important to
> read their methodology before throwing stones. I had to answer to some of
> our research people in Illinois today because the FCC report says 6%
> unserved in Illinois and my mapping data says 1%. Most of the difference is
> that we calculated using just the download speed tier information and the
> FCC further restricted areas they deemed served by adding in the 768 or
> greater upload requirement. Some WISP’s get bumped off the map because of
> the upload requirements they used in their study.
>
> ** **
>
> Thank You,
>
> Brian Webster
>
> www.wirelessmapping.com
>
> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* a...@afmug.com [mailto:a...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Rick Harnish
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 23, 2012 6:19 PM
> *To:* 'WISPA General List'; a...@afmug.com; us...@wug.cc; color...@wispa.org
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] RE: [WISPA] FCC broadband deployment report
>
> ** **
>
> Andrew,  (Andrew MacRae from the NTIA is BCC’d)
>
> ** **
>
> There seems to be some discrepancy in the Colorado and Michigan Data.  Can
> you assist as to why Wisp coverage is not represented?  Please read the
> email below my signature line.  Also, here are some other comments from
> other providers.
>
> ** **
>
> **· **Merrill, MI: Our coverage area is not displayed on that
> map. Is it only including wireline providers?
>
> ** **
>
> **· **Jackson, MI:  My coverage update for the 2nd to last round
> is not there, but the rest is. The map is for 3Meg svc. and up also.
>
> ** **
>
> **· **Steamboat Springs: If you hover over a county a popup chart
> on the right shows up and displays the demographics for that county and %
> of broadband that is Fiber, Cable, DSL, or fixed wireless.  both the
> counties we serve show 0% fixed wireless.
>
> ** **
>
> **· **Yuma: wow, they have my area as covered as NON-Rural DSL
> and Cable no wireless links at all..
>
> I think someone "fixed" the books on this info. As its completely BS..
>
> ** **
>
> 1. everything out here in our area is Rural..
>
> 2. No wireless listed at ALL ( there are 2 providers ourselves and the
> telco to the south of us) 
>
> 3. The local cable company has only a handful of customers 
>
> 4. says that over 3500 folks in my county have NO internet.. Complete and
> total BS.. This is farm country and I'd PAY to find more than 50 homes that
> don't have internet.
>
> ** **
>
> Again.. the books have been cooked, thanks to either bad info or
> competition.
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> Where there is a Wisp, there is a way!
>
> ** **
>
> Respectfully,
>
> ** **
>
> Rick Harnish
>
> Executive Director
>
> WISPA
>
> 260-307-4000 cell
>
> 866-317-2851 Option 2 WISPA Office
>
> Skype: rick.harnish.
>
> rharn...@wispa.org
>
> adm...@wispa.org (Trina and Rick)
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> > -Original Message-
>
> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On*
> ***
>
> > Behalf Of Sean Heskett
>
> > Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 5:29 PM
>
> > To: wireless@wispa.org; a...@afmug.com; us...@wug.cc; color...@wispa.org**
> **
>
> > Subject: [WISPA] FCC broadband deployment report
>
> > 
>
> > Hi all,
>
> > 
>
> > Sorry for all the cross posts on multiple lists but this seems troubling
> to me.  We
>
> > submitted our coverage data to the state of Colorado and they submitted
> our
>
> > data for the national map.  However, this FCC broadband deployment report
> 
>
> > includes this map which doesn't show our cov

Re: [WISPA] FCC broadband deployment report

[John Scrivner]

I have done all that you ask here. I am on EVERY other map ever made by ALL
other agencies and they act like I do not exist on this one. Total BS.
Scriv


On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 5:15 PM, Jack Unger  wrote:

>  1. WISPs need to submit their information.
>
> 2. WISPs need to be diligent about working with their State mapping agency
> to correct wrong information.
>
> No one else is going to do it for us.
>
>
>
>  On 8/23/2012 2:59 PM, Ryan Ghering wrote:
>
> wow, they have my area as covered as NON-Rural DSL and Cable no
> wireless links at all..
>
> I think someone "fixed" the books on this info. As its completely BS..
>
> 1. everything out here in our area is Rural..
> 2. No wireless listed at ALL ( there are 2 providers ourselves and the
> telco to the south of us)
> 3. The local cable company has only a handful of customers
> 4. says that over 3500 folks in my county have NO internet.. Complete
> and total BS.. This is farm country and I'd PAY to find more than 50
> homes that don't have internet.
>
> Again.. the books have been cooked, thanks to either bad info or competition.
>
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Sean Heskett  
>  wrote:
>
>  if you hover over a county a popup chart on the right shows up and
> displays the demographics for that county and % of broadband that is
> Fiber, Cable, DSL, or fixed wireless.  both the counties we serve show
> 0% fixed wireless.
>
> -sean
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 3:48 PM, Chris Fabien  
>  wrote:
>
>  Our coverage area is not displayed on that map.
> Is it only including wireline providers?
>
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Sean Heskett  
>  wrote:
>
>  Hi all,
>
> Sorry for all the cross posts on multiple lists but this seems
> troubling to me.  We submitted our coverage data to the state of
> Colorado and they submitted our data for the national map.  However,
> this FCC broadband deployment report includes this map which doesn't
> show our coverage.
>
> Report: http://www.fcc.gov/reports/eighth-broadband-progress-report
> Map: http://www.fcc.gov/maps/section-706-fixed-broadband-deployment-map
>
> What gives???  WISPA???
>
> Is anyone else noticing their coverage area is not included?
>
> Best regards,
>
>
> Sean Heskett
> ZIRKEL Wireless
> High-speed Internet
> www.zirkelwireless.com970-871-8500
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Re: [WISPA] [AFMUG] RE: FCC broadband deployment report

[Rick Harnish]

Thanks for the followup Brian. I did get a bounce from his email address. I 
suppose that may be a good thing, if it sounded like I was throwing stones.

Who was his replacement?

Rick Harnish
WISPA
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Brian Webster  wrote:

Rick,

Andrew is no longer with the NTIA. I took some time to review 
this FCC report and can shed some light on what problems people are seeing. 
First this data is compiled from round 4 which was current as of June 2011. If 
anyone updated or provided data to their states this last round, your data will 
not show in this report. Second, the data shown does include fixed wireless 
service but not satellite or cellular. What they appear to have done is create 
a merge of data. In the report they tried to replicate the 4 meg down 1 meg up 
national broadband plan set as the national goal. The national broadband map 
was created before the wonderful people who wrote that report had the brilliant 
idea of defining something that is not part of the map standards. Give that 
problem the FCC decided to use the category of 3 meg or greater as the download 
speed and 768 or greater as the upload speed. If any WISP has reported data in 
round 4 or earlier that does not meet those speed tiers,
it was not used in this report.

As with any mapping and report it is very important to read 
their methodology before throwing stones. I had to answer to some of our 
research people in Illinois today because the FCC report says 6% unserved in 
Illinois and my mapping data says 1%. Most of the difference is that we 
calculated using just the download speed tier information and the FCC further 
restricted areas they deemed served by adding in the 768 or greater upload 
requirement. Some WISP’s get bumped off the map because of the upload 
requirements they used in their study.

 

Thank You,

Brian Webster

www.wirelessmapping.com

www.Broadband-Mapping.com

 

From: a...@afmug.com [mailto:a...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 6:19 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'; a...@afmug.com; us...@wug.cc; color...@wispa.org
Subject: [AFMUG] RE: [WISPA] FCC broadband deployment report

 

Andrew,  (Andrew MacRae from the NTIA is BCC’d)

 

There seems to be some discrepancy in the Colorado and Michigan Data.  Can you 
assist as to why Wisp coverage is not represented?  Please read the email below 
my signature line.  Also, here are some other comments from other providers.

 

· Merrill, MI: Our coverage area is not displayed on that map. Is it 
only including wireline providers?

 

· Jackson, MI:  My coverage update for the 2nd to last round is not 
there, but the rest is. The map is for 3Meg svc. and up also.

 

· Steamboat Springs: If you hover over a county a popup chart on the 
right shows up and displays the demographics for that county and % of broadband 
that is Fiber, Cable, DSL, or fixed wireless.  both the counties we serve show 
0% fixed wireless.

 

· Yuma: wow, they have my area as covered as NON-Rural DSL and Cable no 
wireless links at all..

I think someone "fixed" the books on this info. As its completely BS..

 

1. everything out here in our area is Rural..

2. No wireless listed at ALL ( there are 2 providers ourselves and the telco to 
the south of us) 

3. The local cable company has only a handful of customers 

4. says that over 3500 folks in my county have NO internet.. Complete and total 
BS.. This is farm country and I'd PAY to find more than 50 homes that don't 
have internet.

 

Again.. the books have been cooked, thanks to either bad info or competition.

 

 

Where there is a Wisp, there is a way!

 

Respectfully,

 

Rick Harnish

Executive Director

WISPA

260-307-4000 cell

866-317-2851 Option 2 WISPA Office

Skype: rick.harnish.

rharn...@wispa.org

adm...@wispa.org (Trina and Rick)

 

 

 

 

 

> -Original Message-

> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On

> Behalf Of Sean Heskett

> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 5:29 PM

> To: wireless@wispa.org; a...@afmug.com; us...@wug.cc; color...@wispa.org

> Subject: [WISPA] FCC broadband deployment report

> 

> Hi all,

> 

> Sorry for all the cross posts on multiple lists but this seems troubling to 
> me.  We

> submitted our coverage data to the state of Colorado and they submitted our

> data for the national map.  However, this FCC broadband deployment report

> includes this map which doesn't show our coverage.

> 

> Report: http://www.fcc.gov/reports/eighth-broadband-progress-report

> Map: http://www.fcc.gov/maps/section-706-fixed-broadband-deployment-map

> 

> What gives???  WISPA???

> 

> Is anyone else noticing their coverage area is not included?

> 

> Best regards,

> 

> 

> Sean Heskett

> ZIRKEL Wireless

> High-speed Internet

> 

> www.zirkelwireless.com

> 970-871-8500

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