[WISPA] Level3 Explosion?

2013-02-05 Thread Matt Hoppes
Did anyone else see an explosion on the Level3 network this morning? 
They've been up and down all morning since around 2:30 eastern time... 
just recovered recently.
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti airfiber on the same tower...

2013-02-05 Thread Andy Trimmell
I'd recommend the standard of making sure APs are on one tower and
slaves are on the other. 



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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
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Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 8:49 AM
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Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti airfiber on the same tower...

Hi All

I was wondering what is your experience on Airfiber. In particular my
question is if the following scenario could work or not work in your
opinion/experience

On tower at LocationA there are two Airfiber pointing at the same
direction LocationB and LocationC, more or less.
On the tower at LocationA, the two airfibers are mounted at let's say
1-2 meters distance (horizontal and vertical) and 10 degrees of
difference in the 2 directions LocationB and LocationC.
LocationB and LocationC are two other towers both pointing at LocationA.

I am wondering if at 24Ghz I could see some interference or not , in
this situaitons

Thank you in advance

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Re: [WISPA] Level3 Explosion?

2013-02-05 Thread Eric Tykwinski
Matt,

We didn't see anything here on the Sonet ring around the Philadelphia area.
I have noticed that the past couple of weeks they have been doing BGP
changes, seems like they are slowly integrating with GLBX's ASN3549.  We
lost IPv6 connectivity for short periods of time.

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Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
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Subject: [WISPA] Level3 Explosion?

Did anyone else see an explosion on the Level3 network this morning? 
They've been up and down all morning since around 2:30 eastern time... 
just recovered recently.
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Re: [WISPA] Level3 Explosion?

2013-02-05 Thread Adam Greene
One of our customers near NYC had their Level3 BGP session flap a couple 
times between 3:30am - 3:50am this morning.

We also noticed some issues around 1:15am - 1:30am on a circuit we have 
to a provider that peers with Level3. We're in upstate NY but I believe 
the peering occurs in NYC.


On 2/5/2013 8:49 AM, Eric Tykwinski wrote:
 Matt,

 We didn't see anything here on the Sonet ring around the Philadelphia area.
 I have noticed that the past couple of weeks they have been doing BGP
 changes, seems like they are slowly integrating with GLBX's ASN3549.  We
 lost IPv6 connectivity for short periods of time.

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 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
 Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 7:05 AM
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 Subject: [WISPA] Level3 Explosion?

 Did anyone else see an explosion on the Level3 network this morning?
 They've been up and down all morning since around 2:30 eastern time...
 just recovered recently.

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Re: [WISPA] Tower rescue in TN a couple weeks ago

2013-02-05 Thread Jeff Broadwick
Can you imagine how much more difficult that would have been if it weren't a
monopole?


Regards,

Jeff Broadwick
Bitlomat Sales Director
847-238-2481 Office
574-220-7826 Cell


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Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 11:38 AM
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Subject: [WISPA] Tower rescue in TN a couple weeks ago



http://www.wjla.com/articles/2013/01/watch-man-rescued-from-gaithersburg-cel
l-tower-84385.html 



Tower climber went into hypothermia on the 1-23-13 and had to be rescued off
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Re: [WISPA] Level3 Explosion?

2013-02-05 Thread Nick Olsen
I was told yesterday at about 3:30pm EST that they were going to have 
scheduled emergency maintenance.
We saw the BGP session flap. NANOG had a few words about it too.

Nick Olsen
Network Operations (855) FLSPEED  x106


 From: Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 7:05 AM
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Subject: [WISPA] Level3 Explosion?

Did anyone else see an explosion on the Level3 network this morning? 
They've been up and down all morning since around 2:30 eastern time... 
just recovered recently.
-- 

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Indigo Wireless
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[WISPA] FW: L3 East cost maint / fiber 05FEB2012 maintenance

2013-02-05 Thread Eric Tykwinski
Matt,

Don't know if you are a member of NANOG, but it's seems like this was a planned 
outage that went badly...

-Original Message-
From: Josh Reynolds [mailto:ess...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 10:40 AM
To: na...@nanog.org
Subject: L3 East cost maint / fiber 05FEB2012 maintenance

I know a lot of you are out of the office right now, but does anybody have any 
info on what happened with L3 this morning? They went into a 5 hour maintenance 
window with expected downtime of about 30 minutes while they upgraded something 
like *40* of their core routers (their words), but also did this during some 
fiber work and completely cut off several of their east coast peers for the 
entirety of the 5 hour window.

If anybody has any more info on this, on a NOC contact for them on the East 
Coast for future issues, you can hit me off off-list if you don't feel 
comfortable replying with that info here.

Thanks, and I hope hope you guys are enjoying Orlando.

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Re: [WISPA] Level3 Explosion?

2013-02-05 Thread Eric Rogers
We had emergency maint from Level3 at 05:00 GMT to 10:00 GMT, but
expected outage was 30 min.

 

I didn't get up to see if we were flapping, but we expected it.

 

Eric

 

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Behalf Of Nick Olsen
Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2013 11:04 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Level3 Explosion?

 

I was told yesterday at about 3:30pm EST that they were going to have
scheduled emergency maintenance.
We saw the BGP session flap. NANOG had a few words about it too.

Nick Olsen
Network Operations 

(855) FLSPEED  x106

 http://www.flhsi.com/files/emaillogo.jpg 

 



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Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 7:05 AM
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Subject: [WISPA] Level3 Explosion?

Did anyone else see an explosion on the Level3 network this morning? 
They've been up and down all morning since around 2:30 eastern time... 
just recovered recently.
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Re: [WISPA] FW: L3 East cost maint / fiber 05FEB2012 maintenance

2013-02-05 Thread Matt Hoppes
Yes,
I know it was a planned outage... it's the went badly part that I want 
more information on (e.g. how was this even allowed to happen and for 
how long it did).


Matt Hoppes
Director of Information Technology
Indigo Wireless
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On 2/5/13 11:23 AM, Eric Tykwinski wrote:
 Matt,

 Don't know if you are a member of NANOG, but it's seems like this was a 
 planned outage that went badly...

 -Original Message-
 From: Josh Reynolds [mailto:ess...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 10:40 AM
 To: na...@nanog.org
 Subject: L3 East cost maint / fiber 05FEB2012 maintenance

 I know a lot of you are out of the office right now, but does anybody have 
 any info on what happened with L3 this morning? They went into a 5 hour 
 maintenance window with expected downtime of about 30 minutes while they 
 upgraded something like *40* of their core routers (their words), but also 
 did this during some fiber work and completely cut off several of their east 
 coast peers for the entirety of the 5 hour window.

 If anybody has any more info on this, on a NOC contact for them on the East 
 Coast for future issues, you can hit me off off-list if you don't feel 
 comfortable replying with that info here.

 Thanks, and I hope hope you guys are enjoying Orlando.

 --
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 ess...@gmail.com - (270) 302-3552


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Re: [WISPA] FW: L3 East cost maint / fiber 05FEB2012 maintenance

2013-02-05 Thread Eric Tykwinski
Looking deeper into this, there was two things going on.
1. DC had a configuration issue.
2. Upgrade in Anaheim, CA caused a cascading BGP failure.

I didn't even notice the BGP issue but looking at our cacti graphs, we saw a
drop from 229K routes to 12K routes from 3:08 AM to 3:15AM EST.
Didn't lose any traffic, and never received any monitoring notices from
BGPMon.

My guess would be some lucky people probably got hit with both issues.

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Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 11:25 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] FW: L3 East cost maint / fiber 05FEB2012 maintenance

Yes,
I know it was a planned outage... it's the went badly part that I want
more information on (e.g. how was this even allowed to happen and for how
long it did).


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Indigo Wireless
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Re: [WISPA] Tower rescue in TN a couple weeks ago

2013-02-05 Thread Chuck Hogg
?  I did my certified rescue on a guyed tower and it was pretty easy.
 We've done practice rescues on a Self Support.  All pretty much the same.

Regards,
Chuck


On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Jeff Broadwick jeffl...@att.net wrote:

 Can you imagine how much more difficult that would have been if it weren't
 a
 monopole?


 Regards,

 Jeff Broadwick
 Bitlomat Sales Director
 847-238-2481 Office
 574-220-7826 Cell


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Greg Osborn
 Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 11:38 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Tower rescue in TN a couple weeks ago




 http://www.wjla.com/articles/2013/01/watch-man-rescued-from-gaithersburg-cel
 l-tower-84385.html



 Tower climber went into hypothermia on the 1-23-13 and had to be rescued
 off
 the tower.


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Re: [WISPA] Tower rescue in TN a couple weeks ago

2013-02-05 Thread Jeff Broadwick
Just seems like there would be a lot more obstacles on the way down, but I'm
no tower climber.  I defer to the experts!

 

 

Regards,

 

Jeff Broadwick

Bitlomat Sales Director

847-238-2481 Office

574-220-7826 Cell

 

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Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 1:25 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower rescue in TN a couple weeks ago

 

?  I did my certified rescue on a guyed tower and it was pretty easy.  We've
done practice rescues on a Self Support.  All pretty much the same.

 

Regards,
Chuck

 

On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Jeff Broadwick jeffl...@att.net wrote:

Can you imagine how much more difficult that would have been if it weren't a
monopole?


Regards,

Jeff Broadwick
Bitlomat Sales Director
847-238-2481 Office
574-220-7826 Cell



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Greg Osborn
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 11:38 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Tower rescue in TN a couple weeks ago



http://www.wjla.com/articles/2013/01/watch-man-rescued-from-gaithersburg-cel
http://www.wjla.com/articles/2013/01/watch-man-rescued-from-gaithersburg-ce
ll-tower-84385.html 
l-tower-84385.html




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the tower.


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Re: [WISPA] Tower rescue in TN a couple weeks ago

2013-02-05 Thread Josh Luthman
+1

I can't imagine why the tower structure would make any difference.  Only
the stuff mounted to it (extra antennas, big dishes you have to climb
around, etc).

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:

 ?  I did my certified rescue on a guyed tower and it was pretty easy.
  We've done practice rescues on a Self Support.  All pretty much the same.

 Regards,
 Chuck


 On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Jeff Broadwick jeffl...@att.net wrote:

 Can you imagine how much more difficult that would have been if it
 weren't a
 monopole?


 Regards,

 Jeff Broadwick
 Bitlomat Sales Director
 847-238-2481 Office
 574-220-7826 Cell


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Greg Osborn
 Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 11:38 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Tower rescue in TN a couple weeks ago




 http://www.wjla.com/articles/2013/01/watch-man-rescued-from-gaithersburg-cel
 l-tower-84385.htmlhttp://www.wjla.com/articles/2013/01/watch-man-rescued-from-gaithersburg-cell-tower-84385.html



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Re: [WISPA] Tower rescue in TN a couple weeks ago

2013-02-05 Thread Mathew Howard
It looks like it would be a nightmare just to climb that thing...


From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Doug 
Clark [d...@txox.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 12:47 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower rescue in TN a couple weeks ago

Here is the climb path on a 240 foot tower where we are all the way on the top. 
 It would absolutely be a nightmare to rescue someone on this tower.

Is there any authority that protects climbers from idiot tower owners that will 
allow tenants to put crap in the climb path that makes the tower extremely
dangerous to climb?




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From: Josh Luthmanmailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
Date: 2/5/2013 11:39:13 AM
To: WISPA General Listmailto:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower rescue in TN a couple weeks ago

+1

I can't imagine why the tower structure would make any difference.  Only the 
stuff mounted to it (extra antennas, big dishes you have to climb around, etc).

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Chuck Hogg 
ch...@shelbybb.commailto:ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:
?  I did my certified rescue on a guyed tower and it was pretty easy.  We've 
done practice rescues on a Self Support.  All pretty much the same.

Regards,
Chuck


On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Jeff Broadwick 
jeffl...@att.netmailto:jeffl...@att.net wrote:
Can you imagine how much more difficult that would have been if it weren't a
monopole?


Regards,

Jeff Broadwick
Bitlomat Sales Director
847-238-2481tel:847-238-2481 Office
574-220-7826tel:574-220-7826 Cell


-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Greg Osborn
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 11:38 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Tower rescue in TN a couple weeks ago



http://www.wjla.com/articles/2013/01/watch-man-rescued-from-gaithersburg-cel
l-tower-84385.htmlhttp://www.wjla.com/articles/2013/01/watch-man-rescued-from-gaithersburg-cell-tower-84385.html



Tower climber went into hypothermia on the 1-23-13 and had to be rescued off
the tower.


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Re: [WISPA] Tower rescue in TN a couple weeks ago

2013-02-05 Thread Josh Luthman
From what him and Jeremy were saying, it's rough to imagine how awful it is.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote:

  It looks like it would be a nightmare just to climb that thing...

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 of Doug Clark [d...@txox.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, February 05, 2013 12:47 PM

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 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Tower rescue in TN a couple weeks ago

  Here is the climb path on a 240 foot tower where we are all the way
 on the top.  It would absolutely be a nightmare to rescue someone on this
 tower.

 Is there any authority that protects climbers from idiot tower owners that
 will allow tenants to put crap in the climb path that makes the tower
 extremely
 dangerous to climb?




  *---Original Message---*

  *From:* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 *Date:* 2/5/2013 11:39:13 AM
 *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Tower rescue in TN a couple weeks ago

 +1

  I can't imagine why the tower structure would make any difference.  Only
 the stuff mounted to it (extra antennas, big dishes you have to climb
 around, etc).

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373


 On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:
 ?  I did my certified rescue on a guyed tower and it was pretty easy.
  We've done practice rescues on a Self Support.  All pretty much the same.

  Regards,
 Chuck


 On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Jeff Broadwick jeffl...@att.net wrote:
 Can you imagine how much more difficult that would have been if it weren't
 a
 monopole?


 Regards,

 Jeff Broadwick
 Bitlomat Sales Director
 847-238-2481 Office
 574-220-7826 Cell


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Greg Osborn
 Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 11:38 AM
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 Subject: [WISPA] Tower rescue in TN a couple weeks ago




 http://www.wjla.com/articles/2013/01/watch-man-rescued-from-gaithersburg-cel
 l-tower-84385.htmlhttp://www.wjla.com/articles/2013/01/watch-man-rescued-from-gaithersburg-cell-tower-84385.html



  Tower climber went into hypothermia on the 1-23-13 and had to be rescued
 off
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