Re: [WISPA] Anyone have a contact at crown castle?

[Mike Lyon]

Had the same problem with Capital Tower Group out here in California:

http://www.capitaltowergroup.com/

They never responded to my inquiry for 3 weeks until I contacted the owner
of the property directly who then reached out to their contact at CTG. No
apology no nothin'.

Needless to say, didn't sign with them.

-Mike



On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Rick Harnish  wrote:

> George Njezic is my contact.  george.nje...@crowncastle.com
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Scott Carullo
> *Sent:* Monday, May 20, 2013 4:23 PM
> *To:* wireless@wispa.org
>
> *Subject:* [WISPA] Anyone have a contact at crown castle?
>
> ** **
>
> I've been trying to lease space on 2-3 new towers for two weeks now and
> have not received a returned phone call or email.  Not getting warm and
> fuzzies with them
>
> ** **
>
> Anyone have someone who works there that wants my money?  Thanks
>
> Scott Carullo
> Technical Operations
> 855-FLSPEED x102
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Re: [WISPA] Anyone have a contact at crown castle?

[Rick Harnish]

George Njezic is my contact.  george.nje...@crowncastle.com

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Scott Carullo
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 4:23 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Anyone have a contact at crown castle?

 

I've been trying to lease space on 2-3 new towers for two weeks now and have
not received a returned phone call or email.  Not getting warm and fuzzies
with them

 

Anyone have someone who works there that wants my money?  Thanks

Scott Carullo
Technical Operations
855-FLSPEED x102

   

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Re: [WISPA] Anyone have a contact at crown castle?

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

I saw Joe Miller mention a week or two ago he rents from them.  They're not the 
industry fav...

  - Original Message - 
  From: Scott Carullo 
  To: wireless@wispa.org 
  Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 3:22 PM
  Subject: [WISPA] Anyone have a contact at crown castle?


  I've been trying to lease space on 2-3 new towers for two weeks now and have 
not received a returned phone call or email.  Not getting warm and fuzzies with 
them


  Anyone have someone who works there that wants my money?  Thanks


  Scott Carullo
  Technical Operations
  855-FLSPEED x102




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[WISPA] Anyone have a contact at crown castle?

[Scott Carullo]

I've been trying to lease space on 2-3 new towers for two weeks now and 
have not received a returned phone call or email.  Not getting warm and 
fuzzies with them
Anyone have someone who works there that wants my money?  Thanks

Scott Carullo
Technical Operations
855-FLSPEED x102


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Re: [WISPA] Fiber MUX

[lakeland]

Sounds like yoy could use a couple of Dragonwave Pseudowire units.  16 T1 to 
Ethernet. Copper only for you would need to media convert for f iber.

Bob


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 Original message 
From: m...@tc3net.com 
Date: 05/20/2013  11:33 AM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: WISPA General List  
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fiber MUX 
 
Check for pseudowire devices, I have also used Cisco routers to create a 
transparent bridge group over MLPPP, as well as bonding using the Zhone 
etherextend products. Most of the time I use the Zhone's.

Regards
Michael Baird

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From: "Eric Tykwinski" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 11:16:50 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fiber MUX

Matt,

We've used Net to Net equipment back in the day.
They've been bought out multiple times probably since then, but the products
were pretty simple to setup:
http://www.zhone.com/products/legacy/ne/


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Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 11:13 AM
To: WISPA General List; WISPA Fiber Discussion
Subject: [WISPA] Fiber MUX

Hi All,
Is anyone aware of a MUX that will let me MUX together T1s (needs to be
transparent) and Ethernet?  I need to MUX them together on one end, and then
unMUX on the other end.  Again... it all needs to be transparent.
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Re: [WISPA] SR 180 Laurelville, OH

[Rick Harnish]

Chris Cooper  ccoo...@intelliwave.com

> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> On Behalf Of Ryan Spott
> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 12:23 PM
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] SR 180 Laurelville, OH
> 
> I just had a call from Intelliwave.. At least I think I did. They called
and left no
> message. Thank goodness for Google Voice.
> 
> Intelliwave, try again and maybe we can connect.
> 
> ryan
> 
> On 5/20/2013 8:25 AM, Jim Patient wrote:
> > Looks like a couple WISPs in that area on this map.
> >
> > http://towercoverage.com/northamericamap.asp
> >
> > Jim
> > -Original Message-
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> > On Behalf Of Ryan Spott
> > Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 7:21 AM
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> > Subject: [WISPA] SR 180 Laurelville, OH
> >
> > Does anyone service this area?
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Re: [WISPA] SR 180 Laurelville, OH

[Ryan Spott]

I just had a call from Intelliwave.. At least I think I did. They called 
and left no message. Thank goodness for Google Voice.

Intelliwave, try again and maybe we can connect.

ryan

On 5/20/2013 8:25 AM, Jim Patient wrote:
> Looks like a couple WISPs in that area on this map.
>
> http://towercoverage.com/northamericamap.asp
>
> Jim
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Ryan Spott
> Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 7:21 AM
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> Subject: [WISPA] SR 180 Laurelville, OH
>
> Does anyone service this area?
>
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Re: [WISPA] Fiber MUX

[Matt Hoppes]

Woops... I failed to include this would be over Fiber :P

Sorry... I sent this CC to the fiber list as well, so that was an oversight.


Matt Hoppes
Director of Information Technology
Indigo Wireless
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On 5/20/13 11:45 AM, Fred Goldstein wrote:
> On 5/20/2013 11:12 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> Is anyone aware of a MUX that will let me MUX together T1s (needs to be
>> transparent) and Ethernet?  I need to MUX them together on one end, and
>> then unMUX on the other end.  Again... it all needs to be transparent.
>>
>
> What is the underlying physical layer, asynchronous (Ethernet, including
> a typical WISP radio) or isochronous (like a DS3)?  There are different
> muxes for each.  In the RAD catalog, for instance, the RICi family
> passes Ethernet over isochronous circuits (like native T1s and DS3s).
> The IPmux family passes T1s over native Ethernet.
>
> Now one more thing to think about.  If you're carrying T1s
> transparently, you may need to pass the timing.  I've run into cases
> where the VoIP provider didn't realize that supplying the timing was
> required. Often the remote end T1 can just be clocked locally, and
> there's no need to pass timing across the Ethernet.  But if the customer
> needs you to be a timing source, you may need to use one of these two
> methods:
>
> In one case it is straightforward -- when the physical layer is itself
> isochronous (self-clocked); that's how SONET and DS3 work, for instance.
>A mux for that can just pass timing natively, if you set it up right.
>
> If you're carrying the T1s over an asynchronous native medium like
> non-synchronous Ethernet (some Ethernet PMDs are synchronous and pass
> along timing, especially at 10G, but most aren't), and the T1s need
> timing, then you may need to supply the timing independent of the
> physical layer.  The usual way to do this is PWE3, Pseudowire Emulation
> over Ethernet, which is what the IPmux does; it's an option in Cisco
> (and many other) media gateways too.
>
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Re: [WISPA] Fiber MUX

[Fred Goldstein]

On 5/20/2013 11:12 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
> Hi All,
> Is anyone aware of a MUX that will let me MUX together T1s (needs to be
> transparent) and Ethernet?  I need to MUX them together on one end, and
> then unMUX on the other end.  Again... it all needs to be transparent.
>

What is the underlying physical layer, asynchronous (Ethernet, including 
a typical WISP radio) or isochronous (like a DS3)?  There are different 
muxes for each.  In the RAD catalog, for instance, the RICi family 
passes Ethernet over isochronous circuits (like native T1s and DS3s). 
The IPmux family passes T1s over native Ethernet.

Now one more thing to think about.  If you're carrying T1s 
transparently, you may need to pass the timing.  I've run into cases 
where the VoIP provider didn't realize that supplying the timing was 
required. Often the remote end T1 can just be clocked locally, and 
there's no need to pass timing across the Ethernet.  But if the customer 
needs you to be a timing source, you may need to use one of these two 
methods:

In one case it is straightforward -- when the physical layer is itself 
isochronous (self-clocked); that's how SONET and DS3 work, for instance. 
  A mux for that can just pass timing natively, if you set it up right.

If you're carrying the T1s over an asynchronous native medium like 
non-synchronous Ethernet (some Ethernet PMDs are synchronous and pass 
along timing, especially at 10G, but most aren't), and the T1s need 
timing, then you may need to supply the timing independent of the 
physical layer.  The usual way to do this is PWE3, Pseudowire Emulation 
over Ethernet, which is what the IPmux does; it's an option in Cisco 
(and many other) media gateways too.

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Re: [WISPA] Fiber MUX

[Duncan Scott]

I believe some RAD products will do this. We use some of their T1 fiber 
multiplexers and are pretty happy with them, don't run Ethernet on them 
though.

http://www.rad.com/12/Fiber-Multiplexers/13298/

~Duncan
On 5/20/2013 8:12 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
> Hi All,
> Is anyone aware of a MUX that will let me MUX together T1s (needs to be
> transparent) and Ethernet?  I need to MUX them together on one end, and
> then unMUX on the other end.  Again... it all needs to be transparent.

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Re: [WISPA] Fiber MUX

[Matt Hoppes]

I don't think the Cisco SIAD would work since I need the transparent T1 
aspect... but maybe?


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On 5/20/13 11:33 AM, m...@tc3net.com wrote:
> Check for pseudowire devices, I have also used Cisco routers to create a 
> transparent bridge group over MLPPP, as well as bonding using the Zhone 
> etherextend products. Most of the time I use the Zhone's.
>
> Regards
> Michael Baird
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Eric Tykwinski" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 11:16:50 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fiber MUX
>
> Matt,
>
> We've used Net to Net equipment back in the day.
> They've been bought out multiple times probably since then, but the products
> were pretty simple to setup:
> http://www.zhone.com/products/legacy/ne/
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 11:13 AM
> To: WISPA General List; WISPA Fiber Discussion
> Subject: [WISPA] Fiber MUX
>
> Hi All,
> Is anyone aware of a MUX that will let me MUX together T1s (needs to be
> transparent) and Ethernet?  I need to MUX them together on one end, and then
> unMUX on the other end.  Again... it all needs to be transparent.
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Re: [WISPA] Fiber MUX

[mike]

Check for pseudowire devices, I have also used Cisco routers to create a 
transparent bridge group over MLPPP, as well as bonding using the Zhone 
etherextend products. Most of the time I use the Zhone's.

Regards
Michael Baird

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From: "Eric Tykwinski" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 11:16:50 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fiber MUX

Matt,

We've used Net to Net equipment back in the day.
They've been bought out multiple times probably since then, but the products
were pretty simple to setup:
http://www.zhone.com/products/legacy/ne/


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Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 11:13 AM
To: WISPA General List; WISPA Fiber Discussion
Subject: [WISPA] Fiber MUX

Hi All,
Is anyone aware of a MUX that will let me MUX together T1s (needs to be
transparent) and Ethernet?  I need to MUX them together on one end, and then
unMUX on the other end.  Again... it all needs to be transparent.
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Re: [WISPA] SR 180 Laurelville, OH

[Jim Patient]

Looks like a couple WISPs in that area on this map.   

http://towercoverage.com/northamericamap.asp

Jim
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Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 7:21 AM
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Subject: [WISPA] SR 180 Laurelville, OH

Does anyone service this area?

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Re: [WISPA] Fiber MUX

[Eric Tykwinski]

Matt,

We've used Net to Net equipment back in the day.
They've been bought out multiple times probably since then, but the products
were pretty simple to setup:
http://www.zhone.com/products/legacy/ne/


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Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 11:13 AM
To: WISPA General List; WISPA Fiber Discussion
Subject: [WISPA] Fiber MUX

Hi All,
Is anyone aware of a MUX that will let me MUX together T1s (needs to be
transparent) and Ethernet?  I need to MUX them together on one end, and then
unMUX on the other end.  Again... it all needs to be transparent.
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[WISPA] Fiber MUX

[Matt Hoppes]

Hi All,
Is anyone aware of a MUX that will let me MUX together T1s (needs to be 
transparent) and Ethernet?  I need to MUX them together on one end, and 
then unMUX on the other end.  Again... it all needs to be transparent.
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