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Re: [WISPA] question for the group

2013-09-19 Thread Blair Davis


  
  
Oh boy!

IANAL...  That phrase 'Professional Installer' is likely the single
most contentious thing the FCC has done in the last 20 years...

In general, it seems that as long as you follow the EIRP and
frequency rules and don't cause interference to a licensed user, all
is good.

OTOH, if you run way over the power limits, operate out of
band or interfere with licensed users,
they will, sooner or later, come find you.

Others have other opinions.

My opinion is that the terms 'Professional Installer' and '
Professionally Installed', have no real meaning as the FCC has, to
the best of my knowledge, failed to define either term.

YMMV

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On 9/19/2013 10:53 PM, Chris Stradtman
  wrote:


  
Hi all,


Most of my work is done inside so I don't really deal with most
of the WISP issues.


However I'm being asked by a client to do an outside
  install.  This is likely to be in the 5Ghz range.


I've found a reference to 


"Devices must be professionally installed when operating in
  the 5470 – 5725 MHz band"





I'm aware of avoidance of TDWR systems and the allowed and
  disallowed frequencies in that band.


However, I can't find reference to what is meant by a
  "Professional Installer".


Is there a licensing program that I can't seem to find by
  googling??

  

Thanks in advance,


Chris Stradtman
  
  
  
  
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Re: [WISPA] question for the group

2013-09-19 Thread D. Ryan Spott

I have never seen this enforced in my limited experience. Most 
manufacturers have classes you can attend to become a 'professional'.




ryan


On 9/19/13 7:53 PM, Chris Stradtman wrote:

Hi all,

Most of my work is done inside so I don't really deal with most of the 
WISP issues.


However I'm being asked by a client to do an outside install.  This is 
likely to be in the 5Ghz range.


I've found a reference to

"Devices must be professionally installed when operating in the 5470 
-- 5725 MHz band"



I'm aware of avoidance of TDWR systems and the allowed and disallowed 
frequencies in that band.


However, I can't find reference to what is meant by a "Professional 
Installer".


Is there a licensing program that I can't seem to find by googling??

Thanks in advance,

Chris Stradtman


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[WISPA] question for the group

2013-09-19 Thread Chris Stradtman

Hi all,

Most of my work is done inside so I don't really deal with most of the WISP
issues.

However I'm being asked by a client to do an outside install.  This is
likely to be in the 5Ghz range.

I've found a reference to

"Devices must be professionally installed when operating in the 5470 – 5725
MHz band"


I'm aware of avoidance of TDWR systems and the allowed and disallowed
frequencies in that band.

However, I can't find reference to what is meant by a "Professional
Installer".

Is there a licensing program that I can't seem to find by googling??

Thanks in advance,

Chris Stradtman
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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik launches CCR Router with SFP+ ports

2013-09-19 Thread Jay DeBoer


+1, would be very useful.
On 9/19/2013 11:30 AM, can...@believewireless.net wrote:

I like the CR1016-12S-1S+.  I'm sure this will be out 2015-2016 or so.


On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Gino Villarini > wrote:


Yes sfp+ is 10G,  Powerbridge knockoff is 2.4g only?

Gino A. Villarini

g...@aeronetpr.com 

Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

787.273.4143 

*From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org

[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Thursday, September 19, 2013 11:24 AM


*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik launches CCR Router with SFP+ ports

The Rocket and Powerbridge made me laugh.

I'm guessing SFP couldn't do 10G and SFP+ can?



Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Gino Villarini
mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>> wrote:

http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/MUM_2013_US

Gino A. Villarini

g...@aeronetpr.com 

Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

787.273.4143 

*From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org

[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
] *On Behalf Of *Brad Belton
*Sent:* Thursday, September 19, 2013 10:47 AM
*To:* 'WISPA General List'
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik launches CCR Router with SFP+ ports

Link / URL for this router?  Specs?

Brad

*From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org

[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
*Sent:* Thursday, September 19, 2013 9:20 AM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* [WISPA] Mikrotik launches CCR Router with SFP+ ports

CCR1036-8G-2S+

2 SFP+ Ports

Gino A. Villarini

g...@aeronetpr.com 

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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik launches CCR Router with SFP+ ports

2013-09-19 Thread LaRoy McCann


That's funny.

On 9/19/2013 1:44 PM, ralph wrote:


Yes, me too!

Wonder if they bothered to get them FCC certified.

And is a telling factor the model number: QRT ?  (If you are a Ham, 
you will get it, in not, Google it)


Ralph

*From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
*On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman

*Sent:* Thursday, September 19, 2013 11:24 AM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik launches CCR Router with SFP+ ports

The Rocket and Powerbridge made me laugh.

I'm guessing SFP couldn't do 10G and SFP+ can?



Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Gino Villarini > wrote:


http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/MUM_2013_US

Gino A. Villarini

g...@aeronetpr.com 

Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

787.273.4143 

*From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org

[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
] *On Behalf Of *Brad Belton
*Sent:* Thursday, September 19, 2013 10:47 AM
*To:* 'WISPA General List'
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik launches CCR Router with SFP+ ports

Link / URL for this router?  Specs?

Brad

*From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org

[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
*Sent:* Thursday, September 19, 2013 9:20 AM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* [WISPA] Mikrotik launches CCR Router with SFP+ ports

CCR1036-8G-2S+

2 SFP+ Ports

Gino A. Villarini

g...@aeronetpr.com 

Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

787.273.4143 


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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik launches CCR Router with SFP+ ports

2013-09-19 Thread ralph

Yes, me too!

Wonder if they bothered to get them FCC certified.

 

And is a telling factor the model number: QRT ?  (If you are a Ham, you will
get it, in not, Google it)

 

Ralph

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 11:24 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik launches CCR Router with SFP+ ports

 

The Rocket and Powerbridge made me laugh.

 

I'm guessing SFP couldn't do 10G and SFP+ can?





Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Gino Villarini mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com> > wrote:

http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/MUM_2013_US

 

Gino A. Villarini

g...@aeronetpr.com  

Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

787.273.4143  

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org  ] On
Behalf Of Brad Belton
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 10:47 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik launches CCR Router with SFP+ ports

 

Link / URL for this router?  Specs?

 

Brad

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 9:20 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik launches CCR Router with SFP+ ports

 

CCR1036-8G-2S+

 

2 SFP+ Ports 

 

Gino A. Villarini

g...@aeronetpr.com  

Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

787.273.4143  


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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik launches CCR Router with SFP+ ports

2013-09-19 Thread Gino Villarini

http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/MUM_2013_US

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Brad Belton
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 10:47 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik launches CCR Router with SFP+ ports

Link / URL for this router?  Specs?

Brad

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 9:20 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik launches CCR Router with SFP+ ports

CCR1036-8G-2S+

2 SFP+ Ports

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik launches CCR Router with SFP+ ports

2013-09-19 Thread Gino Villarini

Yes sfp+ is 10G,  Powerbridge knockoff is 2.4g only?

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 11:24 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik launches CCR Router with SFP+ ports

The Rocket and Powerbridge made me laugh.

I'm guessing SFP couldn't do 10G and SFP+ can?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Gino Villarini 
mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>> wrote:
http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/MUM_2013_US

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Brad Belton
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 10:47 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik launches CCR Router with SFP+ ports

Link / URL for this router?  Specs?

Brad

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 9:20 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik launches CCR Router with SFP+ ports

CCR1036-8G-2S+

2 SFP+ Ports

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143

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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik launches CCR Router with SFP+ ports

2013-09-19 Thread Josh Luthman

Also "Cloud Router Switch" haha

They'll probably come up with a 5 GHz one down the road.


Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Gino Villarini  wrote:

>  Yes sfp+ is 10G,  Powerbridge knockoff is 2.4g only?
>
> ** **
>
> Gino A. Villarini
>
> g...@aeronetpr.com
>
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>
> 787.273.4143
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 19, 2013 11:24 AM
>
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik launches CCR Router with SFP+ ports
>
> ** **
>
> The Rocket and Powerbridge made me laugh.
>
> ** **
>
> I'm guessing SFP couldn't do 10G and SFP+ can?
>
>
> 
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> ** **
>
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Gino Villarini 
> wrote:
>
> http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/MUM_2013_US
>
>  
>
> Gino A. Villarini
>
> g...@aeronetpr.com
>
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>
> 787.273.4143
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Brad Belton
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 19, 2013 10:47 AM
> *To:* 'WISPA General List'
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik launches CCR Router with SFP+ ports
>
>  
>
> Link / URL for this router?  Specs?
>
>  
>
> Brad
>
>  
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 19, 2013 9:20 AM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* [WISPA] Mikrotik launches CCR Router with SFP+ ports
>
>  
>
> CCR1036-8G-2S+
>
>  
>
> 2 SFP+ Ports 
>
>  
>
> Gino A. Villarini
>
> g...@aeronetpr.com
>
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>
> 787.273.4143
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik launches CCR Router with SFP+ ports

2013-09-19 Thread Josh Luthman

The Rocket and Powerbridge made me laugh.

I'm guessing SFP couldn't do 10G and SFP+ can?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Gino Villarini  wrote:

>  http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/MUM_2013_US
>
> ** **
>
> Gino A. Villarini
>
> g...@aeronetpr.com
>
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>
> 787.273.4143
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Brad Belton
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 19, 2013 10:47 AM
> *To:* 'WISPA General List'
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik launches CCR Router with SFP+ ports
>
> ** **
>
> Link / URL for this router?  Specs?
>
> ** **
>
> Brad
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 19, 2013 9:20 AM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* [WISPA] Mikrotik launches CCR Router with SFP+ ports
>
> ** **
>
> CCR1036-8G-2S+
>
> ** **
>
> 2 SFP+ Ports 
>
> ** **
>
> Gino A. Villarini
>
> g...@aeronetpr.com
>
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>
> 787.273.4143
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[WISPA] Employment Posting

2013-09-19 Thread Rick Harnish

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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik launches CCR Router with SFP+ ports

2013-09-19 Thread can...@believewireless.net

I like the CR1016-12S-1S+.  I'm sure this will be out 2015-2016 or so.


On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Gino Villarini  wrote:

>  Yes sfp+ is 10G,  Powerbridge knockoff is 2.4g only?
>
> ** **
>
> Gino A. Villarini
>
> g...@aeronetpr.com
>
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>
> 787.273.4143
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 19, 2013 11:24 AM
>
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik launches CCR Router with SFP+ ports
>
> ** **
>
> The Rocket and Powerbridge made me laugh.
>
> ** **
>
> I'm guessing SFP couldn't do 10G and SFP+ can?
>
>
> 
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> ** **
>
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Gino Villarini 
> wrote:
>
> http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/MUM_2013_US
>
>  
>
> Gino A. Villarini
>
> g...@aeronetpr.com
>
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>
> 787.273.4143
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Brad Belton
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 19, 2013 10:47 AM
> *To:* 'WISPA General List'
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik launches CCR Router with SFP+ ports
>
>  
>
> Link / URL for this router?  Specs?
>
>  
>
> Brad
>
>  
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 19, 2013 9:20 AM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* [WISPA] Mikrotik launches CCR Router with SFP+ ports
>
>  
>
> CCR1036-8G-2S+
>
>  
>
> 2 SFP+ Ports 
>
>  
>
> Gino A. Villarini
>
> g...@aeronetpr.com
>
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>
> 787.273.4143
>
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[WISPA] Mikrotik launches CCR Router with SFP+ ports

2013-09-19 Thread Gino Villarini

CCR1036-8G-2S+

2 SFP+ Ports

Gino A. Villarini
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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik launches CCR Router with SFP+ ports

2013-09-19 Thread Brad Belton

Link / URL for this router?  Specs?

 

Brad

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 9:20 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik launches CCR Router with SFP+ ports

 

CCR1036-8G-2S+

 

2 SFP+ Ports 

 

Gino A. Villarini

g...@aeronetpr.com

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[WISPA] Mikrotik launches CCR Router with SFP+ ports

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik launches CCR Router with SFP+ ports

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