Re: [WISPA] youtube down

2014-02-08 Thread Mike Hammett
*shrugs* ComboFix? 




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From: heith petersen wi...@mncomm.com 
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Sent: Friday, February 7, 2014 4:54:13 PM 
Subject: [WISPA] youtube down 




I had a customer call in yesterday saying he couldn’t get onto Youtube. He 
tried his phone and it came up. While he was dinking around with his antivirus 
he had a search bar show up on top ( I cant remember what he said). He was 
going to have Geek Squad dial into it and fix it up. I had a call from another 
guy that had the same thing. Anti virus was good, but he seen a deal at the 
bottom of his screen talking about “search buddy”. Then I had a few more calls 
come in with no access to Google or Youtube. Is there something going on with a 
new spybot or adaware? We recently fired up authentication here, would that 
have something to do with anything? We are not filtering anything and I have 
only had a few complaints, plus mine works fine 

thanks 
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Re: [WISPA] youtube down

2014-02-08 Thread Christian Palecek
What do you mean by fired up authentication?


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*shrugs*  ComboFix?



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From: heith petersen wi...@mncomm.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, February 7, 2014 4:54:13 PM
Subject: [WISPA] youtube down

I had a customer call in yesterday saying he couldn’t get onto Youtube. He 
tried his phone and it came up. While he was dinking around with his antivirus 
he had a search bar show up on top ( I cant remember what he said). He was 
going to have Geek Squad dial into it and fix it up. I had a call from another 
guy that had the same thing. Anti virus was good, but he seen a deal at the 
bottom of his screen talking about “search buddy”. Then I had a few more calls 
come in with no access to Google or Youtube. Is there something going on with a 
new spybot or adaware? We recently fired up authentication here, would that 
have something to do with anything? We are not filtering anything and I have 
only had a few complaints, plus mine works fine
 
thanks
heith

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[WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?

2014-02-08 Thread Art Stephens
Recent events make me wonder if the FCC is trying to muscle wisps out of
these frequencies.
Since we are primarily Ubiquiti equipment I can only speak from that
platform.
First the latest firmware update removes compliance test which for about
40% of our equipment deployed would render them unusable since 5735 - 5840
runs at - 50dBm or higher noise levels in our area,
Second is new product released only supports 5735 - 5840.
Seems like DFS is such a pain that manufacturers do not want to mess with
it.
Case in point the new NanoBeam M series only support 5725-5850 for USA.
Worldwide version which we are not allowed to buy or deploy supports
5170-5875.

Seems the only alternative is to go with licensed P2MP which makes more
money for the FCC and drives the cost of wireless internet up for both
wisps and consumers.

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Senior Networking Technician
Ptera Inc.
PO Box 135
24001 E Mission Suite 50
Liberty Lake, WA 99019
509-927-7837
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[WISPA] RAD Airmux5000

2014-02-08 Thread Jack Lehmann
We're having voice issues on our wireless network, specifically with voice 
quality, and we are looking for suggestions on how to tag specific vlans with 
COS (of 6) before they enter my RAD HBS. The complaints are primarily for 
static and sometimes choppy calls. We know that it's likely a voice priority 
concern that needs to be addressed, though just not sure how to do it.

Some of my HBS' are connected to a cisco 48 port 3560 and a few are connected 
to an 8 port 2960. We're able to tag for the upload in the RAD HSU, though not 
for the download.
Anything ideas...?


Thanks,
Jack


Jack Lehmann | VP of Wireless Operations

Xchange Telecom |

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Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?

2014-02-08 Thread Mike Hammett
DFS always comes second due to a longer certification process. It'll eventually 
come. Some manufacturers seem to get approved more quickly, but that could be 
timing of announcements and not the actual certification process. 

-50 dBm? Where? Where? I do see where your address is and I am suspect. I am in 
suburban Chicago and I have at worst -70 noise floor. It's actually better in 
downtown Chicago at someone I know's apartment 22 floors up (maybe low-E 
glass?). Something is very wrong if you have a -50 dB noise floor. 




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Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 10:29:09 AM 
Subject: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies? 


Recent events make me wonder if the FCC is trying to muscle wisps out of these 
frequencies. 
Since we are primarily Ubiquiti equipment I can only speak from that platform. 
First the latest firmware update removes compliance test which for about 40% of 
our equipment deployed would render them unusable since 5735 - 5840 runs at - 
50dBm or higher noise levels in our area, 
Second is new product released only supports 5735 - 5840. 
Seems like DFS is such a pain that manufacturers do not want to mess with it. 
Case in point the new NanoBeam M series only support 5725-5850 for USA. 
Worldwide version which we are not allowed to buy or deploy supports 5170-5875. 


Seems the only alternative is to go with licensed P2MP which makes more money 
for the FCC and drives the cost of wireless internet up for both wisps and 
consumers. 

-- 

Arthur Stephens 
Senior Networking Technician 
Ptera Inc. 
PO Box 135 
24001 E Mission Suite 50 
Liberty Lake, WA 99019 
509-927-7837 

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Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?

2014-02-08 Thread Matt Hoppes
The new NanoBeams will support DFS, they are just pending approval. 

Compliance Test - do you really want to go down that road?  So what you just 
said, in a public forum, is that 40% of your radios are running illegally on 
frequencies they are not authorized to be on. 

Please pack up and go home. 

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 31, 2014, at 11:29, Art Stephens asteph...@ptera.com wrote:

 Recent events make me wonder if the FCC is trying to muscle wisps out of 
 these frequencies.
 Since we are primarily Ubiquiti equipment I can only speak from that platform.
 First the latest firmware update removes compliance test which for about 40% 
 of our equipment deployed would render them unusable since 5735 - 5840 runs 
 at - 50dBm or higher noise levels in our area,
 Second is new product released only supports 5735 - 5840.
 Seems like DFS is such a pain that manufacturers do not want to mess with it.
 Case in point the new NanoBeam M series only support 5725-5850 for USA.
 Worldwide version which we are not allowed to buy or deploy supports 
 5170-5875.
 
 Seems the only alternative is to go with licensed P2MP which makes more money 
 for the FCC and drives the cost of wireless internet up for both wisps and 
 consumers.
 
 -- 
 Arthur Stephens 
 Senior Networking Technician
 Ptera Inc.
 PO Box 135
 24001 E Mission Suite 50
 Liberty Lake, WA 99019 
 509-927-7837 
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Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?

2014-02-08 Thread Chuck Hogg
People running on those TDWR frequencies like that without proper
configuration are ruining the Unlimited Gain Antenna rule in the 5.8GHz
band.  It is before the FCC right now and WISPA just held a manufacturer's
webinar about it.  Every dish 2'+ would be affected, and would not be
allowed any longer.  No more 20-30 Mile 5GHz links.  I truly hope you are
not running your equipment inappropriately.

Ubiquiti already has DFS certified gear, they are VERY familiar with the
process, and they typically produce DFS options on their 5GHz platform.

Regards,
Chuck


On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.comwrote:

 The new NanoBeams will support DFS, they are just pending approval.

 Compliance Test - do you really want to go down that road?  So what you
 just said, in a public forum, is that 40% of your radios are running
 illegally on frequencies they are not authorized to be on.

 Please pack up and go home.

 Sent from my iPad

 On Jan 31, 2014, at 11:29, Art Stephens asteph...@ptera.com wrote:

 Recent events make me wonder if the FCC is trying to muscle wisps out of
 these frequencies.
 Since we are primarily Ubiquiti equipment I can only speak from that
 platform.
 First the latest firmware update removes compliance test which for about
 40% of our equipment deployed would render them unusable since 5735 - 5840
 runs at - 50dBm or higher noise levels in our area,
 Second is new product released only supports 5735 - 5840.
 Seems like DFS is such a pain that manufacturers do not want to mess with
 it.
 Case in point the new NanoBeam M series only support 5725-5850 for USA.
 Worldwide version which we are not allowed to buy or deploy supports
 5170-5875.

 Seems the only alternative is to go with licensed P2MP which makes more
 money for the FCC and drives the cost of wireless internet up for both
 wisps and consumers.

 --
 Arthur Stephens
 Senior Networking Technician
 Ptera Inc.
 PO Box 135
 24001 E Mission Suite 50
 Liberty Lake, WA 99019
 509-927-7837
 ptera.com
 facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera

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Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?

2014-02-08 Thread Matt Hoppes
Chuck,
Do you have a link or any information to what the FCC is specifically 
discussing?

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 8, 2014, at 18:48, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:

 People running on those TDWR frequencies like that without proper 
 configuration are ruining the Unlimited Gain Antenna rule in the 5.8GHz band. 
  It is before the FCC right now and WISPA just held a manufacturer's webinar 
 about it.  Every dish 2'+ would be affected, and would not be allowed any 
 longer.  No more 20-30 Mile 5GHz links.  I truly hope you are not running 
 your equipment inappropriately.
 
 Ubiquiti already has DFS certified gear, they are VERY familiar with the 
 process, and they typically produce DFS options on their 5GHz platform.
 
 Regards,
 Chuck
 
 
 On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com 
 wrote:
 The new NanoBeams will support DFS, they are just pending approval. 
 
 Compliance Test - do you really want to go down that road?  So what you just 
 said, in a public forum, is that 40% of your radios are running illegally on 
 frequencies they are not authorized to be on. 
 
 Please pack up and go home. 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Jan 31, 2014, at 11:29, Art Stephens asteph...@ptera.com wrote:
 
 Recent events make me wonder if the FCC is trying to muscle wisps out of 
 these frequencies.
 Since we are primarily Ubiquiti equipment I can only speak from that 
 platform.
 First the latest firmware update removes compliance test which for about 
 40% of our equipment deployed would render them unusable since 5735 - 5840 
 runs at - 50dBm or higher noise levels in our area,
 Second is new product released only supports 5735 - 5840.
 Seems like DFS is such a pain that manufacturers do not want to mess with 
 it.
 Case in point the new NanoBeam M series only support 5725-5850 for USA.
 Worldwide version which we are not allowed to buy or deploy supports 
 5170-5875.
 
 Seems the only alternative is to go with licensed P2MP which makes more 
 money for the FCC and drives the cost of wireless internet up for both 
 wisps and consumers.
 
 -- 
 Arthur Stephens 
 Senior Networking Technician
 Ptera Inc.
 PO Box 135
 24001 E Mission Suite 50
 Liberty Lake, WA 99019 
 509-927-7837 
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Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?

2014-02-08 Thread Mike Hammett
Yeah, I'd let someone official provide something. I wouldn't want to try to 
discern public information from internal information. 




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From: Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com 
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org 
Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2014 6:03:50 PM 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies? 


Chuck, 
Do you have a link or any information to what the FCC is specifically 
discussing? 

Sent from my iPad 

On Feb 8, 2014, at 18:48, Chuck Hogg  ch...@shelbybb.com  wrote: 





People running on those TDWR frequencies like that without proper configuration 
are ruining the Unlimited Gain Antenna rule in the 5.8GHz band. It is before 
the FCC right now and WISPA just held a manufacturer's webinar about it. Every 
dish 2'+ would be affected, and would not be allowed any longer. No more 20-30 
Mile 5GHz links. I truly hope you are not running your equipment 
inappropriately. 


Ubiquiti already has DFS certified gear, they are VERY familiar with the 
process, and they typically produce DFS options on their 5GHz platform. 


Regards, 
Chuck 


On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Matt Hoppes  mhop...@indigowireless.com  
wrote: 

blockquote


The new NanoBeams will support DFS, they are just pending approval. 


Compliance Test - do you really want to go down that road? So what you just 
said, in a public forum, is that 40% of your radios are running illegally on 
frequencies they are not authorized to be on. 


Please pack up and go home. 

Sent from my iPad 



On Jan 31, 2014, at 11:29, Art Stephens  asteph...@ptera.com  wrote: 


blockquote


Recent events make me wonder if the FCC is trying to muscle wisps out of these 
frequencies. 
Since we are primarily Ubiquiti equipment I can only speak from that platform. 
First the latest firmware update removes compliance test which for about 40% of 
our equipment deployed would render them unusable since 5735 - 5840 runs at - 
50dBm or higher noise levels in our area, 
Second is new product released only supports 5735 - 5840. 
Seems like DFS is such a pain that manufacturers do not want to mess with it. 
Case in point the new NanoBeam M series only support 5725-5850 for USA. 
Worldwide version which we are not allowed to buy or deploy supports 5170-5875. 


Seems the only alternative is to go with licensed P2MP which makes more money 
for the FCC and drives the cost of wireless internet up for both wisps and 
consumers. 

-- 

Arthur Stephens 
Senior Networking Technician 
Ptera Inc. 
PO Box 135 
24001 E Mission Suite 50 
Liberty Lake, WA 99019 
509-927-7837 

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Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?

2014-02-08 Thread Chuck Hogg
*Revision of Part 15 of the Commission's Rules to Permit Unlicensed
National Information Infrastructure (U-NII) Devices in the 5 GHz band, ET
Docket No. 13-49.*

Regards,
Chuck


On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 7:11 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote:

 Yeah, I'd let someone official provide something. I wouldn't want to try
 to discern public information from internal information.




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 *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700
 frequencies?


 Chuck,
 Do you have a link or any information to what the FCC is specifically
 discussing?

 Sent from my iPad

 On Feb 8, 2014, at 18:48, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:

 People running on those TDWR frequencies like that without proper
 configuration are ruining the Unlimited Gain Antenna rule in the 5.8GHz
 band.  It is before the FCC right now and WISPA just held a manufacturer's
 webinar about it.  Every dish 2'+ would be affected, and would not be
 allowed any longer.  No more 20-30 Mile 5GHz links.  I truly hope you are
 not running your equipment inappropriately.

 Ubiquiti already has DFS certified gear, they are VERY familiar with the
 process, and they typically produce DFS options on their 5GHz platform.

 Regards,
 Chuck


 On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.comwrote:

 The new NanoBeams will support DFS, they are just pending approval.

 Compliance Test - do you really want to go down that road?  So what you
 just said, in a public forum, is that 40% of your radios are running
 illegally on frequencies they are not authorized to be on.

 Please pack up and go home.

 Sent from my iPad

 On Jan 31, 2014, at 11:29, Art Stephens asteph...@ptera.com wrote:

 Recent events make me wonder if the FCC is trying to muscle wisps out of
 these frequencies.
 Since we are primarily Ubiquiti equipment I can only speak from that
 platform.
 First the latest firmware update removes compliance test which for about
 40% of our equipment deployed would render them unusable since 5735 - 5840
 runs at - 50dBm or higher noise levels in our area,
 Second is new product released only supports 5735 - 5840.
 Seems like DFS is such a pain that manufacturers do not want to mess with
 it.
 Case in point the new NanoBeam M series only support 5725-5850 for USA.
 Worldwide version which we are not allowed to buy or deploy supports
 5170-5875.

 Seems the only alternative is to go with licensed P2MP which makes more
 money for the FCC and drives the cost of wireless internet up for both
 wisps and consumers.

 --
 Arthur Stephens
 Senior Networking Technician
 Ptera Inc.
 PO Box 135
 24001 E Mission Suite 50
 Liberty Lake, WA 99019
 509-927-7837
 ptera.com
 facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera

  
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Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?

2014-02-08 Thread Jason Bailey
Chuck has it right. See below.
33.
Antenna Gain. Under Section 15.247, the assumed antenna gain is 6 dBi, with a 1 
dB 
reduction in power required for every 1 dB that the antenna gain exceeds 6 dBi. 
For fixed point-to-point 
systems, no power reduction is required. Section 15.407 assumes the same 
antenna gain of 6 dBi, with 1 
dB reduction in power required for every 1 dB that gain exceeds 6 dBi. For 
fixed point-to-point systems, 
a 1 dB reduction in power is required for every 1 dB that gain exceeds 23 dBi. 
The only difference 
between the two rule parts is the maximum antenna gain that can be deployed 
without a penalty in 
transmitter power. We propose to apply the more stringent 23 dBi maximum 
antenna gain that is 
currently required under Section 15.407. We believe that using the more 
stringent antenna gain 
requirement will ensure that there is no increase in the potential for 
interference from unlicensed devices 
operating under the new combined rule parts. 




On Saturday, February 8, 2014 7:32 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:
 
Revision of Part 15 of the Commission’s Rules to Permit Unlicensed National 
Information 
Infrastructure (U-NII) Devices in the 5 GHz band, ET Docket No. 13-49.



Regards,
Chuck


On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 7:11 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:

Yeah, I'd let someone official provide something. I wouldn't want to try to 
discern public information from internal information.





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From: Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2014 6:03:50 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?



Chuck,
Do you have a link or any information to what the FCC is specifically 
discussing?

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 8, 2014, at 18:48, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:


People running on those TDWR frequencies like that without proper 
configuration are ruining the Unlimited Gain Antenna rule in the 5.8GHz band.  
It is before the FCC right now and WISPA just held a manufacturer's webinar 
about it.  Every dish 2'+ would be affected, and would not be allowed any 
longer.  No more 20-30 Mile 5GHz links.  I truly hope you are not running your 
equipment inappropriately.


Ubiquiti already has DFS certified gear, they are VERY familiar with the 
process, and they typically produce DFS options on their 5GHz platform.


Regards,
Chuck


On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com 
wrote:

The new NanoBeams will support DFS, they are just pending approval. 


Compliance Test - do you really want to go down that road?  So what you just 
said, in a public forum, is that 40% of your radios are running illegally on 
frequencies they are not authorized to be on. 


Please pack up and go home. 

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 31, 2014, at 11:29, Art Stephens asteph...@ptera.com wrote:


Recent events make me wonder if the FCC is trying to muscle wisps out of 
these frequencies.
Since we are primarily Ubiquiti equipment I can only speak from that 
platform.
First the latest firmware update removes compliance test which for about 
40% of our equipment deployed would render them unusable since 5735 - 5840 
runs at - 50dBm or higher noise levels in our area,
Second is new product released only supports 5735 - 5840.
Seems like DFS is such a pain that manufacturers do not want to mess with 
it.
Case in point the new NanoBeam M series only support 5725-5850 for USA.
Worldwide version which we are not allowed to buy or deploy supports 
5170-5875.


Seems the only alternative is to go with licensed P2MP which makes more 
money for the FCC and drives the cost of wireless internet up for both 
wisps and consumers.

-- 

Arthur Stephens 
Senior Networking Technician
Ptera Inc.
PO Box 135
24001 E Mission Suite 50
Liberty Lake, WA 99019 
509-927-7837 

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Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?

2014-02-08 Thread John J Thomas
I realize that many here hate the Cisco word, but all their radios are DFS 
compliant.

John

-Original Message-
From: Art Stephens [mailto:asteph...@ptera.com]
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 08:29 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?

Recent events make me wonder if the FCC is trying to muscle wisps out of
these frequencies.
Since we are primarily Ubiquiti equipment I can only speak from that
platform.
First the latest firmware update removes compliance test which for about
40% of our equipment deployed would render them unusable since 5735 - 5840
runs at - 50dBm or higher noise levels in our area,
Second is new product released only supports 5735 - 5840.
Seems like DFS is such a pain that manufacturers do not want to mess with
it.
Case in point the new NanoBeam M series only support 5725-5850 for USA.
Worldwide version which we are not allowed to buy or deploy supports
5170-5875.

Seems the only alternative is to go with licensed P2MP which makes more
money for the FCC and drives the cost of wireless internet up for both
wisps and consumers.

-- 
Arthur Stephens
Senior Networking Technician
Ptera Inc.
PO Box 135
24001 E Mission Suite 50
Liberty Lake, WA 99019
509-927-7837
ptera.com
facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera
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Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?

2014-02-08 Thread John J Thomas
I realize that many here hate the Cisco word, but all their radios are DFS 
compliant.

John

-Original Message-
From: Art Stephens [mailto:asteph...@ptera.com]
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 08:29 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?

Recent events make me wonder if the FCC is trying to muscle wisps out of
these frequencies.
Since we are primarily Ubiquiti equipment I can only speak from that
platform.
First the latest firmware update removes compliance test which for about
40% of our equipment deployed would render them unusable since 5735 - 5840
runs at - 50dBm or higher noise levels in our area,
Second is new product released only supports 5735 - 5840.
Seems like DFS is such a pain that manufacturers do not want to mess with
it.
Case in point the new NanoBeam M series only support 5725-5850 for USA.
Worldwide version which we are not allowed to buy or deploy supports
5170-5875.

Seems the only alternative is to go with licensed P2MP which makes more
money for the FCC and drives the cost of wireless internet up for both
wisps and consumers.

-- 
Arthur Stephens
Senior Networking Technician
Ptera Inc.
PO Box 135
24001 E Mission Suite 50
Liberty Lake, WA 99019
509-927-7837
ptera.com
facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera
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