Re: [WISPA] Do i have enough separation

[Fred Goldstein]

On 3/14/2014 4:44 PM, heith petersen wrote:


Yeah, its 2.4 omni. Yeah, I wouldn't have done it that way, I thought 
he used more of the real estate that we had available on the platform. 
But yeah, that was the cause, moved it away 10 foot and increased 
through put.


Understandable problem.  A guy from UBNT admitted to me that the 5G and 
900M radios were both 2.4 internally, at the chip level, shifted 
(superhet, anyone?) to their bands of operation.  So a strong 2.4 signal 
could interfere.


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Re: [WISPA] Do i have enough separation

[heith petersen]

Yeah, its 2.4 omni. Yeah, I wouldn’t have done it that way, I thought he used 
more of the real estate that we had available on the platform. But yeah, that 
was the cause, moved it away 10 foot and increased through put. 

From: Mark Spring 
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 2:53 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Do i have enough separation

Is the omni at least a different frequency? Sometimes you gotta do what you 
gotta do...maybe they were short on cat5 each time they put in a new circuit..?


Mark Spring
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On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Josh Luthman  
wrote:

  I wasn't sure if you were immediately assuming that install would never work.


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  On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 3:46 PM, heith petersen  wrote:

Its all M5. I was being sarcastic, but for Luthman's sake I don’t know the
font for sarcasm.


-Original Message-
From: Matt Hoppes
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 2:30 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Do i have enough separation

The answer to your question lies in what you are doing what
frequencies are these devices?


Matt Hoppes
Director of Information Technology
Indigo Wireless
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On 3/14/14, 3:11 PM, heith petersen wrote:
> So I had my new tech go on this grain leg to troubleshoot a poor through
> put situation. Then he told me what he saw and sent me a picture. This
> was done by a former contractor 3 hours away from me. The top of this
> grain leg is only 20x20 foot square. Weird thing is it has been working
> well for 2 years and now has been causing issues.
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Re: [WISPA] Do i have enough separation

[Mark Spring]

Is the omni at least a different frequency? Sometimes you gotta do what you
gotta do...maybe they were short on cat5 each time they put in a new
circuit..?

Mark Spring
Systems Analyst

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On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Josh Luthman
wrote:

> I wasn't sure if you were immediately assuming that install would never
> work.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 3:46 PM, heith petersen  wrote:
>
>> Its all M5. I was being sarcastic, but for Luthman's sake I don't know the
>> font for sarcasm.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Matt Hoppes
>> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 2:30 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Do i have enough separation
>>
>> The answer to your question lies in what you are doing what
>> frequencies are these devices?
>>
>>
>> Matt Hoppes
>> Director of Information Technology
>> Indigo Wireless
>> +1 (570) 723-7312
>>
>> On 3/14/14, 3:11 PM, heith petersen wrote:
>> > So I had my new tech go on this grain leg to troubleshoot a poor through
>> > put situation. Then he told me what he saw and sent me a picture. This
>> > was done by a former contractor 3 hours away from me. The top of this
>> > grain leg is only 20x20 foot square. Weird thing is it has been working
>> > well for 2 years and now has been causing issues.
>> >
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Re: [WISPA] Do i have enough separation

[Matt Jenkins]

I require 3' of physical separation between all 5ghz ubnt products and 
any other 5ghz product. Any closer and they usually cause interference 
issues.

Matthew Jenkins
SmarterBroadband
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On 03/14/2014 12:11 PM, heith petersen wrote:
> So I had my new tech go on this grain leg to troubleshoot a poor 
> through put situation. Then he told me what he saw and sent me a 
> picture. This was done by a former contractor 3 hours away from me. 
> The top of this grain leg is only 20x20 foot square. Weird thing is it 
> has been working well for 2 years and now has been causing issues.
> heith
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Re: [WISPA] Do i have enough separation

[Josh Luthman]

I wasn't sure if you were immediately assuming that install would never
work.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 3:46 PM, heith petersen  wrote:

> Its all M5. I was being sarcastic, but for Luthman's sake I don't know the
> font for sarcasm.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Matt Hoppes
> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 2:30 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Do i have enough separation
>
> The answer to your question lies in what you are doing what
> frequencies are these devices?
>
>
> Matt Hoppes
> Director of Information Technology
> Indigo Wireless
> +1 (570) 723-7312
>
> On 3/14/14, 3:11 PM, heith petersen wrote:
> > So I had my new tech go on this grain leg to troubleshoot a poor through
> > put situation. Then he told me what he saw and sent me a picture. This
> > was done by a former contractor 3 hours away from me. The top of this
> > grain leg is only 20x20 foot square. Weird thing is it has been working
> > well for 2 years and now has been causing issues.
> >
> > heith
> >
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Re: [WISPA] Do i have enough separation

[heith petersen]

Its all M5. I was being sarcastic, but for Luthman's sake I don’t know the 
font for sarcasm.

-Original Message- 
From: Matt Hoppes
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 2:30 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Do i have enough separation

The answer to your question lies in what you are doing what
frequencies are these devices?


Matt Hoppes
Director of Information Technology
Indigo Wireless
+1 (570) 723-7312

On 3/14/14, 3:11 PM, heith petersen wrote:
> So I had my new tech go on this grain leg to troubleshoot a poor through
> put situation. Then he told me what he saw and sent me a picture. This
> was done by a former contractor 3 hours away from me. The top of this
> grain leg is only 20x20 foot square. Weird thing is it has been working
> well for 2 years and now has been causing issues.
>
> heith
>
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Re: [WISPA] Do i have enough separation

[Josh Luthman]

Different frequencies obviously.

Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mar 14, 2014 3:12 PM, "heith petersen"  wrote:

>   So I had my new tech go on this grain leg to troubleshoot a poor
> through put situation. Then he told me what he saw and sent me a picture.
> This was done by a former contractor 3 hours away from me. The top of this
> grain leg is only 20x20 foot square. Weird thing is it has been working
> well for 2 years and now has been causing issues.
>
>  heith
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Re: [WISPA] Do i have enough separation

[Matt Hoppes]

The answer to your question lies in what you are doing what
frequencies are these devices?


Matt Hoppes
Director of Information Technology
Indigo Wireless
+1 (570) 723-7312

On 3/14/14, 3:11 PM, heith petersen wrote:
> So I had my new tech go on this grain leg to troubleshoot a poor through
> put situation. Then he told me what he saw and sent me a picture. This
> was done by a former contractor 3 hours away from me. The top of this
> grain leg is only 20x20 foot square. Weird thing is it has been working
> well for 2 years and now has been causing issues.
>  
> heith
>  
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[WISPA] DC FCC TV White Space

[Cameron Camp]

Through a strange series of events, I’m headed to DC next week to meet with FCC 
staff regarding TVWS issues. I’m tag teaming with CompTIA who arranged the 
meetings (along with another rural broadband provider from Kentucky) with:

Renee Gregory (Chairman Wheeler)

David Goldman (Commissioner Rosenworcel)

Erin McGrath (Commissioner O'Reilly)

Matthew Berry and Brendan Carr (Commissioner Pai)

I have put together some bullet points, but wanted to get an unprompted sense 
from the folks on this list what I should be mentioning while I’m there. How 
far can we get, what questions should we asking and what is a practical 
expecation for what can be accomplished still before FCC makes the decision?

Best,
Cameron Camp
IVDataCenter.com




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Re: [WISPA] Strange IP

[Clay Stewart]

No


On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 10:06 AM, ~NGL~  wrote:

>  Would I get this result if I run out of IP address?
> NGL
>
>  *From:* Clay Stewart 
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 13, 2014 7:26 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List 
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Strange IP
>
> Let me see if I fully understand the situation. This is what I understand
> from what is written above.
>
> You have a router as a DHCP server, which goes through a bridged CPE Radio
> and gives the sub's router's WAN DHCP client it's address. (Please correct
> this if wrong)
>
> So when you ping the CPE radio static address from your router, it works.
> But if you ping from sub's router or directly to CPE radio it returns
> 192.168.10.1?
>
> I do not think we have a clear picture yet of how and what umits are
> involve. My description is sort of best guess.
> On Mar 13, 2014 4:50 PM, "~NGL~"  wrote:
>
>>  Do you think that will solve this issue?
>> NGL
>>
>>  *From:* Edward Spoon 
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 13, 2014 12:59 PM
>> *To:* WISPA General List 
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Strange IP
>>
>> Sounds like you need to turn on WDS.
>>
>>  Ed Spoon 
>> Internet Services Manager - triparish.net / cajun.net
>> CSS, Inc . / 985-879-3219
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 2:29 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:
>>
>>>  All air routers are now static IP,s and I still have the problem
>>> If I disconnect the client from the AP I get the correct IP. but on a
>>> few client it changes at the client side when I go on line to 192.168.10.1
>>> NGL
>>>
>>>  *From:* Clay Stewart 
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 13, 2014 10:12 AM
>>> *To:* WISPA General List 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Strange IP
>>>
>>> Well, the router is only 192.168.1.10 when WAN is on DHCP... which I
>>> think as long as it gets an assigned DHCP address, you cannot see the
>>> 192.168.10.1, just like when you assign it a static IP. But, if you unplug
>>> that router from the DHCP circuit, or turnoff the DHCP server, and the
>>> router is rebooted or times out the DHCP clients IP address, then it will
>>> have the fall back IP available... 192.168.10.1.
>>>
>>> If you ping out of a router up stream through WAN, and it is not
>>> connected to a DHCP server, or assigned a static, the ping will say it is
>>> coming from 192.168.10.1
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 12:40 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:
>>>
  Can all routers be the same IP on the Wan side?
 NGL


  *From:* Clay Stewart 
 *Sent:* Thursday, March 13, 2014 9:31 AM
  *To:* WISPA General List 
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Strange IP

 If the WAN is left in DHCP, the default fall back IP is 192.168.10.1 .
  If you set a static IP on WAN, then that IP goes away.


 On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 12:26 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:

>  Just a couple of Air Routers in SOHO mode.
> NGL
>
>  *From:* Clay Stewart 
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 13, 2014 9:16 AM
> *To:* WISPA General List 
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Strange IP
>
> 192.168.10.1 is the fall back IP for any UBNT unit that is in router
> mode (AirRouter, NBM5, whatever.)
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 12:14 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:
>
>>  I am getting a strange IP address at the clients end,
>> When I ping it from my end I get the correct IP.
>> When I ping it from the clients end I get 92.168.10.1.
>> That is with the router removed.
>> I am getting this on a few clients, mostly Ubiquiti users.
>> The network is DHCP my router is the DHCP Server..
>> Help
>> NGL
>>
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>> And if it's in English Thank A Soldier!
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Re: [WISPA] Monopole for Sale

[Mike Hammett]

Have you been posting it on those tower groups on FaceBook? 




- 
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Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: "Stuart Pierce"  
To: "WISPA General List"  
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 9:45:29 AM 
Subject: [WISPA] Monopole for Sale 

http://avolve.net/monopole.htm for more information. 

I have a 100' EEI monopole tower for sale, hardware, ice bridge. On ground in 
Millersport, Ohio 43046. Never erected, supposedly 3 cell carrier, on the 
ground was 25K. To nice for my purposes. Make reasonable offer offlist. 




 
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[WISPA] Monopole for Sale

[Stuart Pierce]

http://avolve.net/monopole.htm for more information.
  
I have a 100' EEI monopole tower for sale, hardware, ice bridge. On ground in 
Millersport, Ohio 43046. Never erected, supposedly 3 cell carrier, on the 
ground was 25K. To nice for my purposes. Make reasonable offer offlist.  





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[WISPA] I just filed my 10.5 ghz petition, did you?

[Gino Villarini]

This is a great opportunity for Wisp , file!

http://www.mimosa.co/support-our-petition.html#/fcc-comments




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Re: [WISPA] Strange IP

[~NGL~]

Would I get this result if I run out of IP address?
NGL
  From: Clay Stewart 
  Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 7:26 PM
  To: WISPA General List 
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Strange IP


  Let me see if I fully understand the situation. This is what I understand 
from what is written above.

  You have a router as a DHCP server, which goes through a bridged CPE Radio 
and gives the sub's router's WAN DHCP client it's address. (Please correct this 
if wrong)

  So when you ping the CPE radio static address from your router, it works. But 
if you ping from sub's router or directly to CPE radio it returns 192.168.10.1?

  I do not think we have a clear picture yet of how and what umits are involve. 
My description is sort of best guess.

  On Mar 13, 2014 4:50 PM, "~NGL~"  wrote:

Do you think that will solve this issue?
NGL
  From: Edward Spoon 
  Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 12:59 PM
  To: WISPA General List 
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Strange IP


  Sounds like you need to turn on WDS.


  Ed Spoon
  Internet Services Manager - triparish.net / cajun.net
  CSS, Inc. / 985-879-3219



  On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 2:29 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:

All air routers are now static IP,s and I still have the problem
If I disconnect the client from the AP I get the correct IP. but on a 
few client it changes at the client side when I go on line to 192.168.10.1
NGL
  From: Clay Stewart 
  Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 10:12 AM
  To: WISPA General List 
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Strange IP


  Well, the router is only 192.168.1.10 when WAN is on DHCP... which I 
think as long as it gets an assigned DHCP address, you cannot see the 
192.168.10.1, just like when you assign it a static IP. But, if you unplug that 
router from the DHCP circuit, or turnoff the DHCP server, and the router is 
rebooted or times out the DHCP clients IP address, then it will have the fall 
back IP available... 192.168.10.1. 


  If you ping out of a router up stream through WAN, and it is not 
connected to a DHCP server, or assigned a static, the ping will say it is 
coming from 192.168.10.1



  On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 12:40 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:

Can all routers be the same IP on the Wan side?
NGL

  From: Clay Stewart 
  Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 9:31 AM
  To: WISPA General List 
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Strange IP


  If the WAN is left in DHCP, the default fall back IP is 
192.168.10.1 .  If you set a static IP on WAN, then that IP goes away.



  On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 12:26 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:

Just a couple of Air Routers in SOHO mode.
NGL
  From: Clay Stewart 
  Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 9:16 AM
  To: WISPA General List 
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Strange IP


  192.168.10.1 is the fall back IP for any UBNT unit that is in 
router mode (AirRouter, NBM5, whatever.)



  On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 12:14 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:

I am getting a strange IP address at the clients end,
When I ping it from my end I get the correct IP.
When I ping it from the clients end I get 92.168.10.1.
That is with the router removed.
I am getting this on a few clients, mostly Ubiquiti users.
The network is DHCP my router is the DHCP Server..
Help
NGL

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