Re: [WISPA] epmp 1000 in noisy environment

2017-03-06 Thread Mike Hammett
Well it was stupid on their part. They doubled the number of antennas for distributors to stock, while reducing functionality at a higher price. None of that makes any sense. Well, other than more revenue for them. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet

Re: [WISPA] epmp 1000 in noisy environment

2017-03-06 Thread Adair Winter
picky picky picky. On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 8:36 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > No, I don't mean that. > > I mean a connectorized twist-port. That's a connectorized horn vs. a horn > and a separate connectorized twist-port. That also means that you can't > used connectorized

Re: [WISPA] epmp 1000 in noisy environment

2017-03-06 Thread Mike Hammett
No, I don't mean that. I mean a connectorized twist-port. That's a connectorized horn vs. a horn and a separate connectorized twist-port. That also means that you can't used connectorized radios with their other twist-port antennas. Also, it costs more this way. Connectorized 30* horn MSRP

Re: [WISPA] epmp 1000 in noisy environment

2017-03-06 Thread Adair Winter
you mean like this? https://www.rfelements.com/products/antennas/symmetrical-horn-carrier-class/symmetrical-horn-carrier-class/ ? On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 8:17 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > It's such a shame that they didn't just make a connectorized twist-port. > That

Re: [WISPA] epmp 1000 in noisy environment

2017-03-06 Thread Mike Hammett
It's such a shame that they didn't just make a connectorized twist-port. That severely limits the platforms. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Chadwick Wachs"

[WISPA] pmp 450 connectorized brackets

2017-03-06 Thread Marco Coelho
I'm testing some different antennas w/ the 450 series. What are people using for a pole mounting bracket on these access points? -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 ___ Wireless mailing list

Re: [WISPA] epmp 1000 in noisy environment

2017-03-06 Thread Chadwick Wachs
Carrier Class horn - uses pigtails (not a twist port). On Mar 6, 2017, 1:26 PM -0700, David Jones , wrote: > Chad. what did you have to do to get the ePMP 2000 into a horn? do they have > the adaptors for it yet? > > > On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 11:02 AM, Chadwick Wachs

Re: [WISPA] epmp 1000 in noisy environment

2017-03-06 Thread David Jones
Chad. what did you have to do to get the ePMP 2000 into a horn? do they have the adaptors for it yet? On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 11:02 AM, Chadwick Wachs wrote: > Tha antenna that Cambium sells to go with the ePMP 2000 is a 90/120 degree > sector. The main sector is 120 degrees

Re: [WISPA] The future of 3.65 Band

2017-03-06 Thread Fred Goldstein
On 3/6/2017 2:32 PM, William C Bardwell wrote: How does this affect new installations? You can still install new devices under your WBS (Part 90Z WBS) licenses. They just don't get "incumbent" status, wherein you can register a big protection zone in the SAS, when CBRS comes along. The

Re: [WISPA] The future of 3.65 Band

2017-03-06 Thread William C Bardwell
How does this affect new installations? On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 12:03 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote: > On 3/6/2017 12:48 PM, Marco Coelho wrote: > > How about towers that were installed previously? > > > "Grandfathered Wireless Broadband Service" (3.65) licenses will remain in >

Re: [WISPA] epmp 1000 in noisy environment

2017-03-06 Thread Marco Coelho
One last question: How do you compare the epmp 2000 vs the 450i and 450m? On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 12:01 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > If you're in a noisy area spend the extra bucks to get the uplink > improvements of the epmp 2000. It'd be a big mistake to not. > > I

Re: [WISPA] epmp 1000 in noisy environment

2017-03-06 Thread Marco Coelho
Thanks! On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 12:18 PM, Jordan Gregory wrote: > +1 for ePMP 2k > > On Mar 6, 2017 12:11, "Mike Meluskey" wrote: > >> The “smart” beam forming 90 degree antenna is very impressive for >> improving upload speeds. >> Our test sector,

Re: [WISPA] epmp 1000 in noisy environment

2017-03-06 Thread Jordan Gregory
+1 for ePMP 2k On Mar 6, 2017 12:11, "Mike Meluskey" wrote: > The “smart” beam forming 90 degree antenna is very impressive for > improving upload speeds. > Our test sector, upgraded from 90 degree ePMP1000, went from 2-3Mbps > upload speeds to 20-30Mbps. > Download has

Re: [WISPA] epmp 1000 in noisy environment

2017-03-06 Thread Nick Bright
On 3/6/2017 12:02 PM, Chadwick Wachs wrote: Tha antenna that Cambium sells to go with the ePMP 2000 is a 90/120 degree sector. The main sector is 120 degrees and you can add on a 90 degree “smart” antenna. We have one deployed with the 120 degree sector and the other 2000 AP uses a 60 degree

Re: [WISPA] epmp 1000 in noisy environment

2017-03-06 Thread Mike Meluskey
The “smart” beam forming 90 degree antenna is very impressive for improving upload speeds. Our test sector, upgraded from 90 degree ePMP1000, went from 2-3Mbps upload speeds to 20-30Mbps. Download has improved as well. > On Mar 6, 2017, at 2:02 PM, Chadwick Wachs wrote: >

Re: [WISPA] epmp 1000 in noisy environment

2017-03-06 Thread Chadwick Wachs
Tha antenna that Cambium sells to go with the ePMP 2000 is a 90/120 degree sector. The main sector is 120 degrees and you can add on a 90 degree “smart” antenna. We have one deployed with the 120 degree sector and the other 2000 AP uses a 60 degree horn. SNR is much better on the 60 degree horn

Re: [WISPA] The future of 3.65 Band

2017-03-06 Thread Fred Goldstein
On 3/6/2017 12:48 PM, Marco Coelho wrote: How about towers that were installed previously? "Grandfathered Wireless Broadband Service" (3.65) licenses will remain in effect until 2020. If they expire before then, they can be renewed for up to that date. If they happened to be issued in the

Re: [WISPA] epmp 1000 in noisy environment

2017-03-06 Thread Josh Luthman
If you're in a noisy area spend the extra bucks to get the uplink improvements of the epmp 2000. It'd be a big mistake to not. I don't believe they do epmp2000 in 120*, so while your point is valid, I don't think this mistake can be made =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct:

Re: [WISPA] epmp 1000 in noisy environment

2017-03-06 Thread Chadwick Wachs
2000 performs better than 1000. We have both deployed on a noisy tower and the 2000 has better performance - but the 1000 is working. Get your antenna width as small as possible. A 120 degree sector is not your friend in a noisy environment. We are using 60 degree horns and that has really

Re: [WISPA] The future of 3.65 Band

2017-03-06 Thread Marco Coelho
How about towers that were installed previously? On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 11:40 AM, Fred Goldstein wrote: > On 3/6/2017 12:32 PM, Marco Coelho wrote: > >> I've been off-line for a while. What is the latest set of decisions from >> the FCC with the 3.65 band? >> >> > A second

[WISPA] epmp 1000 in noisy environment

2017-03-06 Thread Marco Coelho
I was checking to see if anyone has some epmp 1000 experience in noisy environments. What have your experiences been? -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] The future of 3.65 Band

2017-03-06 Thread Fred Goldstein
On 3/6/2017 12:32 PM, Marco Coelho wrote: I've been off-line for a while. What is the latest set of decisions from the FCC with the 3.65 band? A second Report and Order was issued in May, 2016. Since then, the action has moved to WinnForum, which is producing the standards for how to

[WISPA] The future of 3.65 Band

2017-03-06 Thread Marco Coelho
I've been off-line for a while. What is the latest set of decisions from the FCC with the 3.65 band? -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org