Re: [WISPA] RB333 heat

2008-07-03 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Once upon a time, a man said that hell was full so they sent him to St. Geo. - Original Message - From: Randy Cosby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 4:53 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB333 heat Ow, definitely don't want to install

Re: [WISPA] Update from the FCC on 3.65Ghz and CBP

2008-07-03 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
and CBP A lot of times, flipping a house is nothing more than putting on a fresh coat of paint. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Update from the FCC on 3.65Ghz and CBP

2008-07-04 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
What is your opinion about the greatness of WiMax based upon? - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 7:19 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Update from the FCC on 3.65Ghz and CBP I believe that WiMax is

Re: [WISPA] solar equipment / partners?

2008-07-04 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
I have been doing solar powered radio sites for 25 years. I will never do one where commercial power is available. Not sure how folks buying panels at $5/watt can think this is a good deal compared with 7 cents per 1000 watts. - Original Message - From: Rogelio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [WISPA] Update from the FCC on 3.65Ghz and CBP

2008-07-04 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
for broadband delivery over wireless in 3.4 thru 3.8 GHz bandspace. Scriv On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is your opinion about the greatness of WiMax based upon? - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General

Re: [WISPA] Update from the FCC on 3.65Ghz and CBP

2008-07-04 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
that is in conflict with what you have deployed. Is Motorola planning to deploy a system for 3.65 GHz? I have not heard anything about that. Scriv On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 12:07 PM, Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Canopy is outdoor. I don't want interop as I want to control users to my system

Re: [WISPA] solar equipment / partners?

2008-07-04 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
-Original Message- From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 1:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar equipment / partners? I have been doing solar powered radio sites for 25 years. I

Re: [WISPA] solar equipment / partners?

2008-07-04 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
-Original Message- From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 2:28 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar equipment / partners? Do you go solar where there is commercial power? - Original Message - From: Gino

Re: [WISPA] Update from the FCC on 3.65Ghz and CBP

2008-07-04 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
only see canopy 400 working on this bandthey could also port their wimax solution but thats a different price range gino -Original Message- From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 1:57 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re

Re: [WISPA] Update from the FCC on 3.65Ghz and CBP

2008-07-04 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
on 3.65Ghz and CBP It does mine. Inflating the price of a needed commodity - that is, increasing it with no added value - is unethical, in my estimation. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [WISPA] solar equipment / partners?

2008-07-05 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
, the panels will be $1/watt. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 12:05 PM Subject: Re

Re: [WISPA] solar equipment / partners?

2008-07-05 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
/watt. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 12:05 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar

Re: [WISPA] Update from the FCC on 3.65Ghz and CBP

2008-07-05 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
. Chuck McCown - 3 wrote: Then I guess the precludes any participation in any mutual fund or almost any type of broker investments. Oh well... - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 8:56 PM Subject: Re

Re: [WISPA] Update from the FCC on 3.65Ghz and CBP

2008-07-05 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
things and/or ownership of entities, I am not sure. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 9:18 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Update

Re: [WISPA] Update from the FCC on 3.65Ghz and CBP

2008-07-05 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
it, nor about speculators who use leveraged debt to drive up the price of consumer commodities for no added value. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent

Re: [WISPA] Wall Bracket

2008-07-05 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Steel strap iron or Unistrut. Unistrut has lots of brackets and fasteners but would not look as nice IMHO as a custom made strap steel unit. You could always buy the 36 incher and have someone extend it. Yes, it will lose some galvanizing but gray/silver paint will make up for the loss.

Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz

2008-07-06 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
technologies, though not now Eventual lower CPE cost, though not now -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 8:55

Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz

2008-07-06 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
I totally agree. I am planning to deploy 3.65 in this area and will be one of the first if not the first. If there is a plethora of real life experience with this band with the existing products, I am all ears. But so far, I don't know of any actual WiMax 802.16d or e equipment deployments

Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz

2008-07-06 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
. We plan to go live with the product this month... As soon as we get our routing situation fixed. On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 9:00 PM, Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I totally agree. I am planning to deploy 3.65 in this area and will be one of the first if not the first

Re: [WISPA] Streamlined DC Powered System

2008-07-08 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Yes. What specifically are you needing to source. We built our own. - Original Message - From: John McDowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Motorola Canopy User Group [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 4:45 AM Subject: [WISPA] Streamlined DC

Re: [WISPA] water in feed horn

2008-07-09 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
And you are sure it is that end of the link that went bad? - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 1:51 PM Subject: [WISPA] water in feed horn Anyone ever have any water get into a

Re: [WISPA] water in feed horn

2008-07-09 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
No, they stay reflectors. But Yagis have a huge problem when coated with ice. -Original Message- From: Kurt Fankhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 17:38:24 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] water in feed horn Don't grids stop working

Re: [WISPA] water in feed horn

2008-07-10 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 3 Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 7:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] water in feed horn No, they stay reflectors. But Yagis have a huge problem when coated with ice. -Original

Re: [WISPA] Dragonwave antenna pattern for RM

2008-07-10 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Generally speaking, when the FCC specifies antennas they are more interested in the pattern than the gain. Specifically, they have a beamwidth and sidelobe suppression mask that they insist upon. This is always true with satellite uplink dishes. Not totally familiar with the point to point

Re: [WISPA] Dragonwave antenna pattern for RM

2008-07-10 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Thanks for pointing that out. In my mind that was what I was attempting to say. I guess I failed to take it to completion. I was trying to make the point that gain ~~ size~~ beamwidth but only in the broad general case. The FCC is not really caring about gain or size(in these cases); but

Re: [WISPA] Report: FCC to Punish Comcast Over Web Blocking

2008-07-11 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
that WISPA helps bring the bottom-of-the-list USA to the top of broadband users' survey is! . . . J o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 3 Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 7:13 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Topic change - Trade Association Was:Report:FCCtoPunishComcast Over Web Blocking

2008-07-13 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
We have had the CALEA pain in the telco side for a decade. Believe me, it was much more expensive to become compliant if you were a LEC. Fact of the matter is that the internet is becoming the defacto alternate PSTN network and when you are a public utility you become beholden to the public

Re: [WISPA] Topic change - Trade AssociationWas:Report:FCCtoPunishComcast Over Web Blocking

2008-07-13 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Let us know when that coffin is nailed shut. I am sure there will be a wisp ready to step up and take over your customers. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] No, it is just one more nail in our coffin, removing what I consider to be the single greatest advantage to using

Re: [WISPA] Topic change - Trade AssociationWas:Report:FCCtoPunishComcast Over Web Blocking

2008-07-13 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
w00t - Original Message - From: Forrest W Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 6:50 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Topic change - Trade AssociationWas:Report:FCCtoPunishComcast Over Web Blocking [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No matter

Re: [WISPA] Topic change - Trade AssociationWas:Report: FCCtoPunishComcast Over Web Blocking

2008-07-13 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
For telcos, that assistance was in the form of CALEA complaint software upgrades for a very few brands of switches. If you were Nortel you were OK. I think the same thing with GTE but the switches we had did not have an FBI supplied software load so we got zero assistance for CALEA. -

Re: [WISPA] Dragonwave antenna pattern for RM

2008-07-14 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Could you please elaborate about a Class B? This is new to me. - Original Message - From: Charles Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:14 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dragonwave antenna pattern for RM Actually...if you're willing to

Re: [WISPA] Form 477 NPRM Comments Due

2008-07-15 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Then I guess you do not want to evolve into a public utility. Too bad, as the rest of the WISP industry is becoming defacto public utility. You really need to become familiar with the principle of common carriage. The legal doctrine can be traced clear back to the Roman Empire. Personally I

Re: [WISPA] Form 477 NPRM Comments Due

2008-07-15 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
to promote industry health and speak for WISP's insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 7:08 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Form 477

Re: [WISPA] great FAQ on the difference between dB and dBi/dBm

2008-07-16 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
The article was good for our industry. There are tons of absolute dB readings like dBuV, dBrnc0 and dBspl. I always explain it as simply a logarithmic way of stating a measuring unit like power or force. You could have dBmpg (miles per gallon) if you wanted. A naked dB by itself is

Re: [WISPA] muddy frog

2008-07-16 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
You are correct. I apologize. - Original Message - From: Steve Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] muddy frog Why don't you Not. I have enough junk mail don't need that as well. If muddy

Re: [WISPA] end of thread

2008-07-16 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
;-) Dang, that could be considered a reply, couldn't it. Must stop. Must not press send - Original Message - From: Rogelio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] end of thread Chuck McCown - 3 wrote

Re: [WISPA] formulas behind pathloss+RSSI calculators?

2008-07-16 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Tx power + antenna gain - free space path loss + rx antenna gain =rssi. - Original Message - From: Rogelio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 5:24 PM Subject: [WISPA] formulas behind pathloss+RSSI calculators? I'm looking for the

Re: [WISPA] formulas behind pathloss+RSSI calculators?

2008-07-16 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Here is an example. TX power of 30 dBm (1 watt) + 10 dB antenna gain = 40 dBm EIRP - Path loss (say 10 miles at 915 MHz) 116 dB + 10 dB RX antenna gain = -66 dBm RX signal level - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List

[WISPA] dead thread

2008-07-16 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Bowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] muddy frog I have sort of enjoyed this thread - BUT, here you launch off into something you know nothing about. Chuck McCown is the general manager (And I suspect part

Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz - my 2 cents

2008-07-17 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
So, what down converted 802.11a systems are there for 900? - Original Message - From: Charles Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz - my 2 cents Even thought this

Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz - my 2 cents

2008-07-17 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
And these are as robust and immune from interference as Canopy? - Original Message - From: Charles Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 9:55 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz - my 2 cents So, what down

Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz - my 2 cents

2008-07-19 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Their 45 has promise. - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz - my 2 cents Hi, You are correct... my mistake. However, the

Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz - my 2 cents

2008-07-19 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 3 Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 2:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz - my 2 cents - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent

Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz - my 2 cents

2008-07-19 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
CopperCom... Hmmm. Taqua is still around and strong. I have a story to tell you about Taqua someday. Motorola: There still is no SM left behind. The 400 is a totally different product line. But they are still coming out with new Canopy products. The line may bifurcate, but they are still

Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz - my 2 cents

2008-07-19 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
I have been on both ends of this as a manufacturer. I made airborne PBX systems that were installed in the avionics bay of head-of-state, military command and control and corporate fleet aircraft. Almost got airforce1. (I could only do 48 phones and they needed more!) I was very proud of

Re: [WISPA] Just what we need.

2008-07-20 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
- From: Chuck McCown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 2:37 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Just what we need. The power company wants to take rate payer money and build a broadband network that will contact each meter for the purpose

Re: [WISPA] Just what we need.

2008-07-20 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 3 Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 10:53 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Just what we need. Not true. Not true at all. Cable Companies are not rate of return regulated. Every

Re: [WISPA] Nanostations

2008-07-20 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
I wonder if the chip could be changed to give you more memory. - Original Message - From: Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 11:23 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nanostations On Sun, 20 Jul 2008, Travis Johnson wrote: And

Re: [WISPA] Just what we need.

2008-07-20 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
flexibility in their service offerings. - Larry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 3 Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 2:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Just what we need. Not exactly true. The POTS

Re: [WISPA] Nanostations

2008-07-20 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
There used to be a graphic on one of the Canopy marketing pages showing the loading vs latency curves for polled vs non polled systems. Lightly loaded 802.11 will always do better but once you get up to 20 or 30 users, the polling type systems start to shine with their fixed latency. -

Re: [WISPA] Nanostations

2008-07-20 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
I am surprised an open source project has not sprung up to do this. - Original Message - From: Japhy Bartlett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nanostations Maybe Mikrotik should take a note from

Re: [WISPA] Nanostations

2008-07-20 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
has the license for it. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Chuck McCown - 3 wrote: I am surprised an open source project has not sprung up to do this. - Original Message - From: Japhy Bartlett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, July 20

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