Re: [WISPA] Looking for service in Milwaukie Or.
http://www.freewirebroadband.com/company/ Marlon, these guys might be her best bet, depending on location in Milwaukie. Frank On 2/22/2012 1:58 PM, Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181) wrote: Hi All, Can anyone service my sister? I'd hate to send her to the cable co or telco. thanks! marlon - Original Message - From:damee...@odessaoffice.com To:o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 12:58 PM 14332 se cedar ave Milwaukie or 97267. Thanks for your help Sent via BlackBerry by ATT ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Seasickness guaranteed (no password)
Ya I say them loading into there boat. On 8/1/2011 6:15 PM, Jeremy Parr wrote: Oh shit! Someone is stealing the rig! http://i.imgur.com/gDTkE.jpg On 1 August 2011 19:40, Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com mailto:tsharp...@qorvus.com wrote: http://69.96.154.17/cgi-bin/guestimage.html WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] test
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[WISPA] Just a test
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Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform
http://www.mailenable.com/standard_edition.asp There is a free (as in beer) edition and versions with the requirements that you requested. Frank On 3/28/2011 12:53 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: Since we began in '98 we've been using the same windows based email server MailMax. Because of some support/productivity issues we are investigating integrating a new box. The requirements are: webmail, web management of individuals mail accounts (with password reset), pop3/smtp/imap, can run on Windows or Linux. We would also like a calendar and address book module in webmail as well. Anyone have suggestions? Thanks, Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 110 input for ARC enclosure
This might be of interest. http://www.fpolc.com/featured_products.htm On 3/6/2011 1:32 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote: Looking for a waterproof 3 position male/female connector assembly similar to the RJ45 assembly for an ARC Wireless enclosure. Needs to fit a 14/3 outdoor cable coming from a streetlight photocell adapter. Any suggestions? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Used Trango gear
How much? On 3/4/2011 2:47 PM, Kevin Sullivan wrote: We've got eighteen Trango 900 SU's, and two Trango 915. All working pulls. Anyone interested? Kevin WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Access to sell plans on 3G and 4G
http://www.gpsworld.com/gnss-system/news/fcc-grants-go-ahead-potential-interferer-with-gps-signal-10989 http://www.lightsquared.com/what-we-do/ On 1/27/2011 8:47 PM, Scottie Arnett wrote: http://www.broadbandqwireless.com/ Sorry for the confusion. Scott - Original Message - *From:* Scottie Arnett mailto:sarn...@info-ed.com *To:* WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org ; Principal WISPA Member List mailto:w...@wispa.org *Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:42 PM *Subject:* [WISPA] Access to sell plans on 3G and 4G I am a new member to Wispa, and I have a few questions? I have in close proximity to my area a http://www.broadband wireless.com/ http://www.broadband%20wireless.com/ and another provider I have forgot the name of...They both provide wireless data internet through cell phone data plans on 3G and 4G. They both advertise it as unlimited, but if you read into it, it is not unlimited. My question is, how or how can us WISP get access to sell a 3G or 4G plan on Sprint or Verizon as these plan's have been sold to other companies? I will get the Verizon company with unlimited access as soon as I can return back to the office. Scottie WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet
Thanks Jack, I'm interested in such governmental actions around the world and the ways that it will be worked around. Frank On 1/27/2011 9:06 PM, Jack Unger wrote: Sorry for the OT post. I thought some might be interested. *** Confirming what a few have reported this evening: in an action unprecedented in Internet history, the Egyptian government appears to have ordered service providers to shut down all international connections to the Internet. Critical European-Asian fiber-optic routes through Egypt appear to be unaffected for now. But every Egyptian provider, every business, bank, Internet cafe, website, school, embassy, and government office that relied on the big four Egyptian ISPs for their Internet connectivity is now cut off from the rest of the world. Link Egypt, Vodafone/Raya, Telecom Egypt, Etisalat Misr, and all their customers and partners are, for the moment, off the air. At 22:34 UTC (00:34am local time), Renesys observed the virtually simultaneous withdrawal of all routes to Egyptian networks in the Internet's global routing table. Approximately 3,500 individual BGP routes were withdrawn, leaving no valid paths by which the rest of the world could continue to exchange Internet traffic with Egypt's service providers. Virtually all of Egypt's Internet addresses are now unreachable, worldwide. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: Wireless Orbit Mikrotik
Jerry don't worry about the /32 just put the address of mt box and make sure the lan ip address is correct. Users are added to wireless orbit not to the MT users tab. If you look under account in WO you will see any users you added. You can still have local users in the MT if you want. If you look at the Hotspot Active tab in the MT users that go through WO will show up with an R next to them to show you they got authorized through the Radius server at WO. Frank Brightlan LLC - Original Message - From: Jerry Richardson To: WISPA General List Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 02:54 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Wireless Orbit Mikrotik Already email support and posted on the forum. Generally get quick answers here. The Gateway configuration in Wireless Orbit wants the WAN IP of the gateway. Keeps forcing back to /32. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 11:49 AM To: WISPA General List Cc: motor...@afmug.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Wireless Orbit Mikrotik Email support, but are you talking about the gateway ip or the customers? On Jan 14, 2011 12:30 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Got tired of fighting with MT's User Manager. I am setting up my first gateway with Wireless Orbit. Under the IP addressThe IP keeps defaulting to a /32 subnet. I need it to be /24 however if I try to enter it this way I get an error. I think this may be why WO Radius is not communicating with the MikroTik router. I can run through a signup and at the end the user is not added to the MT user list. any thoughts? -- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3379 - Release Date: 01/14/11 -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: Wireless Orbit Mikrotik
It only shows up in the hotspot active when they are on line. Frank - Original Message - From: Jerry Richardson To: WISPA General List Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 03:46 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Wireless Orbit Mikrotik Thanks Frank, the user gets added to WO but is not showing up in HotSpot Active - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Frank Watts Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 12:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Wireless Orbit Mikrotik Jerry don't worry about the /32 just put the address of mt box and make sure the lan ip address is correct. Users are added to wireless orbit not to the MT users tab. If you look under account in WO you will see any users you added. You can still have local users in the MT if you want. If you look at the Hotspot Active tab in the MT users that go through WO will show up with an R next to them to show you they got authorized through the Radius server at WO. Frank Brightlan LLC - Original Message - From: Jerry Richardson To: WISPA General List Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 02:54 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Wireless Orbit Mikrotik Already email support and posted on the forum. Generally get quick answers here. The Gateway configuration in Wireless Orbit wants the WAN IP of the gateway. Keeps forcing back to /32. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 11:49 AM To: WISPA General List Cc: motor...@afmug.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Wireless Orbit Mikrotik Email support, but are you talking about the gateway ip or the customers? On Jan 14, 2011 12:30 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Got tired of fighting with MT's User Manager. I am setting up my first gateway with Wireless Orbit. Under the IP addressThe IP keeps defaulting to a /32 subnet. I need it to be /24 however if I try to enter it this way I get an error. I think this may be why WO Radius is not communicating with the MikroTik router. I can run through a signup and at the end the user is not added to the MT user list. any thoughts? No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3379 - Release Date: 01/14/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3379 - Release Date: 01/14/11 -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Webcam
It was - tsharp...@qorvus.com On 11/17/2010 7:22 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: There was a vendor on one of these wireless lists selling some nice looking ones... Mobtix or something like that. They have had IIRC tens of thousands of them deployed for large event security. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 10/26/2010 5:27 AM, Jeremie Chism wrote: A group of radio stations that I provide phone and Internet service would like to setup a webcam in a few of their studios to stream video to their website. Any suggestions on hardware and configuration? Sent from my iPhone4 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Recover deleted email from Outlook
ZMEIL works, don't remember the cost but there is a trial that I used with the same problem.. Frank On 11/13/2010 8:55 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: Does anyone have any recommendations for free software to do this? My sister deleted all of her email. I don't think any of it is important enough to spend money on to recover. Most tools I've seen were over $100. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors)
Kurt, I'm on this list. I never received any emails from you and our phone number is clearly listed on your website. I don't recall having any voice mails about this issue. If we dropped the ball on shipping an item, I'm very sorry. Like anyone, we do make mistakes and I'll look into this and refund if we missed shipping anything to you. You should hear back from me today about this. Thank you Frank Keeney Pasadena Networks, LLC Antennas, Cables and Equipment: http://www.wlanparts.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 7:09 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) I wish I could say the same thing. It appeared to me that they run things completely online and automated. If you have a problem forget about customer service, probably don't even have anyone answering phones, just leave a message and hope they call you back if they feel like it. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 9:53 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) Wow, I've ordered several things from there in the past 6 months and I have never experienced anything even remotely close to this issue. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:43 AM To: fai...@snappydsl.net; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) I would NOT recommend anyone ever buy from WLANparts.com. I used to purchase things there every six months. My last order I placed an order for a RB600 and an HPOL 5.8ghz omni. Total order was for like $350 or so. Got an email from them saying the omni was on backorder. Got the RB600 and waited for a month, didn't hear anything on the omni so I tried sending an email. They don't have any email address listed on their site, was just an online form. Tried that twice and never got a response, so I tried calling the phone number, never got through to anyone, left a couple messages and never got a return call. If I placed the order with a credit card I would have done a merchant charge back but my order was on my bank debit card so I couldn't. I've never placed an order with them again... that was over 6 months ago. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:50 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] POE Injectors / Passive / Shielded ports Suggested alternates :- http://www.wlanparts.com/product/POE-INJ-S/Shielded-POE-Inserter-power-to-a- CAT5.html http://store.netgate.com/-P264.aspx http://www.mini-box.com/s.nl/it.A/id.309/.f http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=24449 Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 10/20/2010 11:29 PM, Scott Carullo wrote: POE Injectors I'm looking for some poe injectors, 2.1mm power feed, a power light would be preferred but not absolutely necessary, surge protection a bonus I do require shielded ethernet ports that are both connected (the shields) to each other or to power ground as well. I have used the little white triangle looking ones with the green lights but everybody shows them out of stock. Anyone have any idea who has them or a product you recommend. They are going into a box I am making to feed a bunch or radios 24v Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors)
Kurt, I searched through my emails and found a message from you back in May. I'm sorry we dropped the ball on this one. Please confirm the name and address that we should use in sending you a check today. Please do so in a private email to frank @ wlanparts.com Thank you Frank Keeney Pasadena Networks, LLC Antennas, Cables and Equipment: http://www.wlanparts.com From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:22 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) Answered honestly and credibly. While I've never worked with them I never heard any issues about them when I ran QLW. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Frank inetli...@gmail.com wrote: Kurt, I'm on this list. I never received any emails from you and our phone number is clearly listed on your website. I don't recall having any voice mails about this issue. If we dropped the ball on shipping an item, I'm very sorry. Like anyone, we do make mistakes and I'll look into this and refund if we missed shipping anything to you. You should hear back from me today about this. Thank you Frank Keeney Pasadena Networks, LLC Antennas, Cables and Equipment: http://www.wlanparts.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 7:09 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) I wish I could say the same thing. It appeared to me that they run things completely online and automated. If you have a problem forget about customer service, probably don't even have anyone answering phones, just leave a message and hope they call you back if they feel like it. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 9:53 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) Wow, I've ordered several things from there in the past 6 months and I have never experienced anything even remotely close to this issue. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:43 AM To: fai...@snappydsl.net; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) I would NOT recommend anyone ever buy from WLANparts.com. I used to purchase things there every six months. My last order I placed an order for a RB600 and an HPOL 5.8ghz omni. Total order was for like $350 or so. Got an email from them saying the omni was on backorder. Got the RB600 and waited for a month, didn't hear anything on the omni so I tried sending an email. They don't have any email address listed on their site, was just an online form. Tried that twice and never got a response, so I tried calling the phone number, never got through to anyone, left a couple messages and never got a return call. If I placed the order with a credit card I would have done a merchant charge back but my order was on my bank debit card so I couldn't. I've never placed an order with them again... that was over 6 months ago. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:50 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] POE Injectors / Passive / Shielded ports Suggested alternates :- http://www.wlanparts.com/product/POE-INJ-S/Shielded-POE-Inserter-power-to-a- http://www.wlanparts.com/product/POE-INJ-S/Shielded-POE-Inserter-power-to-a -%0d%0aCAT5.html CAT5.html http://store.netgate.com/-P264.aspx http://www.mini-box.com/s.nl/it.A/id.309/.f http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=24449 Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 10/20/2010 11:29 PM, Scott Carullo wrote: POE Injectors I'm looking for some poe injectors, 2.1mm power feed, a power light would be preferred but not absolutely necessary, surge protection a bonus I do require shielded ethernet ports that are both connected (the shields) to each other or to power ground as well. I have used the little white triangle looking ones with the green lights but everybody shows them out of stock. Anyone have any idea who has them or a product you recommend. They are going into a box I am making to feed a bunch or radios 24v Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors)
Kurt's check should arrive on or before October 25th. A few people mentioned not being able to get through our phones in late April. If I'm remembering correctly, that was the time our PBX went south. I was fixed shortly thereafter. I appreciate all the supporting comments on this list. We'll reexamin how we monitor inquiries. Thank you Frank Keeney Pasadena Networks, LLC Antennas, Cables and Equipment: http://www.wlanparts.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Workers Trapped in Hollywood Water Tower Tank
Nasty is right, to say the least. I drive by this tank everyday - it is HUGE and I can't even imagine what shape these guys are in after falling into it. Frank Aquino Snappy Internet Telecom St. Louis Broadband wrote: Nasty. Poor guys, I am saying a prayer for them. I know water towers are part of our industry, but frankly, they scare me. Got stuck on one about 80' up in the tube and have never felt right about them since. *Victoria Proffer - President/CEO* www.ShowMeBroadband.com www.StLouisBroadband.com 314-974-5600 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *RickG *Sent:* Friday, October 08, 2010 11:47 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* [WISPA] Workers Trapped in Hollywood Water Tower Tank Happening now: http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local-beat/Workers-Injured-After-Falling-in-Water-Tower-Tank-104575149.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.862 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3177 - Release Date: 10/07/10 13:34:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Transmit Antenna Height
Fred and Jack Antenna Height - Height is restricted to 30 meters above HAAT (height above average terrain) of 76 meters this can be calculated here. »www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/bickel/haat···tor.html http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/bickel/haat_calculator.html Where it asks this question (Enter the height (in meters) of the antenna radiation center above mean sea level (RCAMSL)) Enter your site elevation NOT the antenna radiation center because you get to go 30 meters above ground level at that point. ref: Second Memorandum Opinion and Order (paragraph - 66) Frank Frank On 9/30/2010 7:37 PM, Jack Unger wrote: Fred, I'm sorry to seem dense but I don't understand your explanation below. I'd appreciate it if you would re-explain. The FCC said: transmit antenna used with fixed devices may not be more than 30 meters above the ground. In addition, fixed devices may not be located at sites where the height above average terrain (HAAT) at ground level is more than 76 meters. I'm trying to reconcile that with your statements. Could you please re-explain more clearly or by using better actual numbers (both HAAT at ground level and antenna height above ground)? Thanks in advance, jack On 9/23/2010 4:48 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote: The rules allow antenna heights up to 30 meters, around 100 feet. One problem with the maximum HAAT limit is that it applies to the ground height, based on having a 30 meter high antenna. In other words, the ruling assumed a maximum antenna HAAT, and then set the ground HAAT to be 30m below that. If somebody's house is 10m below the limit, then a 10m antenna should be legal. (The minimum antenna height went away, since sensing is no longer required. That frankly seems to be the only major improvement in the rules.) Brian *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [ mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Tom DeReggi *Sent:* Thursday, September 23, 2010 7:32 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Transmit Antenna Height Yeah, that really sucks. Many areas needing served have thick forest/trees easilly 70ft tall. A 90ft height, just wouldn't allow enough of the signal to have open air, and the signal would be going through trees most of the full path. In 900Mhz, the difference between having the tower side over the tree line and below the tree line can be the difference between a quarter mile coverage and a 7 mile coverage in our market. All be it, 700Mhz does have better NLOS propogation characteristics than 900 does. I would have liked to see that height doubled. However, admittedly, it will allow much better spectrum re-use in areas that have a limited number of channels available. Spectrum reuse is one of the best ways to serve more people. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Fred Goldstein mailto:fgoldst...@ionary.com To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Transmit Antenna Height This item alone may be the show-stopper, the poison pill that makes it useless to WISPs in much of the country. In places where the routine variation in elevation is more than 75 meters, there will be houses (subscribers) that are more than 76 meters AAT. I notice this in the areas I'm studying, both in the east and in the upper midwest. In a place like Kansas, nobody is 75m AAT. But in the woody Berkshires of Western Massachusetts, the UHF space is needed to get through the trees, and a significant share of houses are 75m AAT. Also, if you want to cover a decent radius, the access point needs to be up the hill too. 75 meters isn't a mountaintop; it's just a little rise. It makes no sense to absolutely ban fixed use at a site that is 100m AAT if the nearest protected-service contour is, say, 50 miles away. A more sensible rule would be to follow broadcast practice, and lower the ERP based on height, so that the distance to a given signal strength contour is held constant as the height rises. Hence a Class A FM station is allowed up to 15 miles, and if it is more than 300 feet AAT, then it is allowed less than the 3000 watts ERP that apply at lower heights. Maybe the lawyers want to have more petitions to argue over. At 9/23/2010 04:07 PM, Rich Harnish wrote: 65. Decision. We decline to increase the maximum permitted transmit antenna height above ground for fixed TV bands devices. As the Commission stated in the Second Report and Order, the 30 meters above ground limit was established as a balance between the benefits of increasing TV bands device transmission range and the need to minimize the impact on licensed services.129 Consistent with the Commission's stated approach in the Second Report and Order
Re: [WISPA] Transmit Antenna Height
Fred, I think were saying the same thing? On 9/30/2010 8:13 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote: At 9/30/2010 10:37 PM, Jack Unger wrote: Fred, I'm sorry to seem dense but I don't understand your explanation below. I'd appreciate it if you would re-explain. The FCC said: transmit antenna used with fixed devices may not be more than 30 meters above the ground. In addition, fixed devices may not be located at sites where the height above average terrain (HAAT) at ground level is more than 76 meters. I'm trying to reconcile that with your statements. Could you please re-explain more clearly or by using better actual numbers (both HAAT at ground level and antenna height above ground)? Thanks in advance, jack Sure. In the Order itself, the FCC explained the origin of the 76 meter HAAT limit. They explained that they didn't want any antennas more than 106 meters AAT. That's the maximum antenna HAAT I referred to. Since antennas are allowed to be 30 meters above ground, they subtracted 30 from 106 and got 75. See paragraph 66 of the Order: We find that limiting the fixed device antenna HAAT to 106 meters (350 feet), as calculated by the TV bands database, provides an appropriate balance of these concerns. We will therefore restrict fixed TV bands devices from operating at locations where the HAAT of the ground is greater than 76 meters; this will allow use of an antenna at a height of up to 30 meters above ground level to provide an antenna HAAT of 106 meters. Accordingly, we are specifying that a fixed TV bands device antenna may not be located at a site where the ground HAAT is greater than 75 meters (246 feet). The Order cited an IEEE 802 Petitition http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=6520201311 which called for HAAT to be a factor. But they didn't call for a ban on operation above 75 meters; rather, they wanted co-channel separation to increase with height: less than 3 meters | 6 km 0.1 km 3 Less than 10 meters* 6.9 km 0.256 km 10 Less than 30 meters 10.8 km 0.285 km 30 Less than 50 meters 13.6 km 0.309 km 50 Less than 75 meters 16.1 km 0.330 km 75 Less than 150 meters22.6 km 0.372 km 150 Less than 300 meters 32 km 0.405 km 300 Less than 600 meters 45.7 km 0.419 km 600 meters or higher68 km 0.426 km That's rational. On the other hand I'd prefer allowing fixed devices at any ground elevation, to allow everyone to subscribe, so I'd suggest instead that they maximum ERP be decreased in order to limit interference to the same level. So maybe 6 dB from 76 to 150 meters and 10 dB to 300 meters, though that's a guess; I haven't run the calculations. And I'd allow directional antennas, professionally installed, to have ERP measured in the direction of the protected contour, with no reduction in ERP if it's clear to the distance the above chart. I'm thinking about a petition to that effect. I have real subscriber sites in mind. On 9/23/2010 4:48 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote: The rules allow antenna heights up to 30 meters, around 100 feet. One problem with the maximum HAAT limit is that it applies to the ground height, based on having a 30 meter high antenna. In other words, the ruling assumed a maximum antenna HAAT, and then set the ground HAAT to be 30m below that. If somebody's house is 10m below the limit, then a 10m antenna should be legal. (The minimum antenna height went away, since sensing is no longer required. That frankly seems to be the only major improvement in the rules.) Brian *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [ mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Tom DeReggi *Sent:* Thursday, September 23, 2010 7:32 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Transmit Antenna Height Yeah, that really sucks. Many areas needing served have thick forest/trees easilly 70ft tall. A 90ft height, just wouldn't allow enough of the signal to have open air, and the signal would be going through trees most of the full path. In 900Mhz, the difference between having the tower side over the tree line and below the tree line can be the difference between a quarter mile coverage and a 7 mile coverage in our market. All be it, 700Mhz does have better NLOS propogation characteristics than 900 does. I would have liked to see that height doubled. However, admittedly, it will allow much better spectrum re-use in areas that have a limited number of channels available. Spectrum reuse is one of the best ways to serve more people. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Fred Goldstein mailto:fgoldst...@ionary.com To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 4:36 PM Subject:
Re: [WISPA] FW: Transmit Antenna Height
So, if we have a negative HAAT, is it correct that we are within the rules. Say we have a location with -100 calculated HAAT and it can not be above +75. Frank On 9/24/2010 2:11 PM, Brian Webster wrote: This rule as it is written states that the ground elevation not more than 75 meters HAAT. Remember that is the not actual ground elevation of the site, it is the HAAT calculation. See my other email with a HAAT report pasted within. My office at an elevation of 1420 ft AMSL actually has a negative HAAT value. I think people are misunderstanding how HAAT is calculated. Brian *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Fred Goldstein *Sent:* Friday, September 24, 2010 3:37 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] FW: Transmit Antenna Height At 9/24/2010 03:03 PM, you wrote: Steve, Here is another question to pose to the FCC. Does the HAAT requirement include receive antennas. In otherwords, can no clients be installed above the 76 meter HAAT level? I see no mention of receive-only terminals, though I doubt anybody asked. But if by receive you mean client (such as a Mode 1 CPE), then the rules seem to ban those entirely, not just APs, from high ground: ...We will therefore restrict fixed TV bands devices from operating at locations where the HAAT of the ground is greater than 76 meters; this will allow use of an antenna at a height of up to 30 meters above ground level to provide an antenna HAAT of 106 meters. Accordingly, we are specifying that a fixed TV bands device antenna may not be located at a site where the ground HAAT is greater than 75 meters (246 feet). The ground HAAT is to be calculated by the TV bands database using computational software employing the methodology in Section 73.684(d) of the rules to ensure that fixed devices comply with this requirement. They cite to the IEEE's filing, but it didn't call for a ban; instead it called for wider protection distances based on HAAT: 13.We recommend that HAAT be used to determine the required separation distance from TV protected contours as described in the Table below.6 The method for calculating HAAT should be the same as was employed in Part 90 to protect the TV service from PLMRS. In addition, we recommend no limits on the antenna height above ground for fixed base stations.7 We further recommend that no changes in the assumption of antenna heights of 10m AGL for fixed user terminals (CPEs) be made for the purpose of calculating the separation distance to the TV protected contour. That would have been reasonable. *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [ mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Fred Goldstein *Sent:* Friday, September 24, 2010 2:57 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Transmit Antenna Height At 9/24/2010 02:16 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote: There is one other benefit of this No body else will be able to install higher either. Mounting lower to the ground, its more likely a WISP will be able to install their own tower, and no longer have to pay huge colocation costs on a commercial tower. I predict more houses up on the hill, being the new TVWhitespace towers. Although, aren't these low channel Whitespace omnis like giant, and weight a ton? No, Tom, you missed the poison pill. If somebody lives on a hill, more than 76 meters above average terrain, then they are banned from using fixed whitespace devices AT ALL. Not at 4W. Not at 1W. Just the flea-power portable devices, which are basically wireless mics. This new rule needs to be changed. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Brian Webster mailto:bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com To: 'WISPA General List' mailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Transmit Antenna Height But what if you are able to use spectrum around 200 or 300 MHz? That certainly goes through trees. Brian From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 7:32 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Transmit Antenna Height Yeah, that really sucks. Many areas needing served have thick forest/trees easilly 70ft tall. A 90ft height, just wouldn't allow enough of the signal to have open air, and the signal would be going through trees most of the full path. In 900Mhz, the difference between having the tower side over the tree line and below the tree line can be the difference between a quarter mile coverage and a 7 mile coverage in our market. All be it, 700Mhz does have better NLOS propogation characteristics than 900 does. I would have liked to see that height doubled. However, admittedly, it will allow much better spectrum re-use in areas that have a limited number of channels available. Spectrum reuse is one of the best
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti RMA Process
Yes, the RMA turnaround time has been impressive. Frank Keeney http://www.wlanparts.com -Original Message- On Behalf Of Michael Baird Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 10:06 AM Ubiquiti used to be hit and miss with RMA's, they have improved the process over time. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FW: FIPS 140-2
That gateway has nice pricing. On 9/7/2010 4:18 PM, Bret Clark wrote: Seems Meru has a solution or try googling 802.11 fips http://www.merunetworks.com/corporate/press_releases/index.php?articleID=091609 On 09/07/2010 05:30 PM, Kevin Sullivan wrote: For some reason, they say they can't use 802.16 -- it has to be 802.11. Kevin - Original Message - *From:* Dave Rumore mailto:drum...@redlinecommunications.com *To:* 'wireless@wispa.org' mailto:%27wirel...@wispa.org%27 *Sent:* Tuesday, September 07, 2010 2:24 PM *Subject:* [WISPA] FW: FIPS 140-2 The Redline AN-80i is FIPS 140-2 certified in both PtP and PtMP but they are 802.16 based not 802.11. They are also the most widely deployed COTS (commercial off the shelf) broadband radios in US DoD today. I hope this helps. *redline*^® ** *Communications* *David Rumore* *Territory Manager** *120 Mystic Lane Jupiter, FL 33458 Phone: +1 561.741.0756 Fax: +1 561.741.1561 * *Mobile: 561.254.0758 e-mail: drum...@redlinecommunications.com** Web: www.redlinecommunications.com http://www.redlinecommunications.com/** *Advancing Broadband Wireless * *P** **Think green before printing this email* *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Brad Belton *Sent:* Tuesday, September 07, 2010 4:58 PM *To:* 'WISPA General List' *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] FIPS 140-2 Possibly RedLine or Alvarion, but I think they are only AES256. BridgeWave PtP has been our radio of choice for FIPS 140-2 requirements. Best, Brad *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Kevin Sullivan *Sent:* Tuesday, September 07, 2010 3:52 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* [WISPA] FIPS 140-2 We have a customer that is part of the Federal government, and they are looking for a FIPS 140-2 certified 802.11-based PtMP outdoor solution. Anyone have any ideas? Kevin IMPORTANT NOTICE : This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify Redline immediately by email at postmas...@redlinecommunications.com mailto:postmas...@redlinecommunications.com . Thank you. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UPS with IP
You might want to talk to the manufacturers of the charge controller and the power supply about this. One issue that could come up is when the charge controller is charging in bulk (current) mode, the DC power supply will see this as a short and either a) blow a fuse if it doesn't have over-current protection, or b) simply shut off if it has simple over-current protection, or c) supply a set current level if it has advanced over-current protection. Obviously situations a and b would leave you dead in the water, but situation c is a plausible option if you spec the power supply appropriately. Frank Aquino Snappy Internet Telecom Kristian Hoffmann wrote: My thought was to just use an industrial DC power supply to feed the solar inputs on the charge controller. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT -- ISS visual space phenomenon
At our age we are the wonder.. On 8/29/2010 7:49 PM, Robert West wrote: Yeah, 13 year old boy was all hot for it. Watched it a few years ago with my now 16 year old. Was cool to see it through his eyes. Me, just another moving light! Sucks to get old and lose the sense of wonder... *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Mike *Sent:* Saturday, August 28, 2010 9:31 PM *To:* 'WISPA General List' *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] OT -- ISS visual space phenomenon Beautiful pass of the ISS here. Share the experience with a kid if you can. Follow the link below. *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Saturday, August 28, 2010 4:10 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] OT -- ISS visual space phenomenon Cool, thanks! On Aug 28, 2010 5:07 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com mailto:m...@aweiowa.com wrote: http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/realdata/sightings/SSapplications/Post/JavaSSOP/JavaSSOP.html I have been enjoying showing people around here the ISS. Since they have added so much hardware to the Space Station, it has become one of the spectacles of the night sky. If you are in the right position for a pass, the ISS is the third brightest object in the night sky after the sun and moon. Yes, it's way brighter than Venus. Follow the link above to calculate when and where you should look. At 8:15 tonight we have a pass going over 70 degrees which will put it almost straight overhead. Friendly Regards, Mike Mike Gilchrist Disruptive Technologist Advanced Wireless Express P.O. Box 255 Toledo, IA 52342 Mike's Weekly Column http://www.tamatoledonews.com/page/category.detail/nav/5001/Local-Columns.html 239.770.6203 m...@aweiowa.com mailto:m...@aweiowa.com *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Jerry Richardson *Sent:* Saturday, August 28, 2010 11:50 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] DC Remote reboot? I would not want the ability to change the voltage remotely. Switch to voltage too low and lose connectivity. Switch to a voltage too high and you might let the smoke out. - Jerry *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *RickG *Sent:* Friday, August 27, 2010 8:10 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] DC Remote reboot? Oh, so it doesnt have to be direct AC in? On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com mailto:m...@tc3net.com wrote: Yes, I've got several of them deployed, very nice. It will run off AC as well, and is outdoor hardened. Only negatives, voltage isn't changeable per port via the web interface, manual toggle only, and they need a version with more ports. Regards Michael Baird Inscape LPS-1000 POE Switch, with reboot capabilites. It will run off 48VDC. Five ports. http://www.connectronics.com/inscape/PoE%20Switch.htm Phil On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net mailto:li...@mtin.net wrote: Does anyone know of a product which is a POE power supply in addition to having remote reboot capabilities? Imagine this scenario. You have DC running up a 400 foot tower. You have a DCV switch at the top with DC POE's. The switch is not POE but external POEs plugged into a distribution block. In otherwords there is no AC running up the tower. Are there any devices which can interrupt the DC power via remote management to reboot a single device? Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog -- xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw -- Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting -- Tower Climbing -- Network Support WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Electrical Question.......
Thanks Ralph for clearing up my confusion about 3 phase metering. Frank On 8/13/2010 6:46 AM, Ralph wrote: If you don't NEEED three phase, don't install it. The metering is more complex, there are 3 transformers, and the basic monthly bill is probably more expensive as they pass their costs of the complexity on to you. Someone wrote about the Demand Meter with the peak indicator, and I wanted to clear up one thing that was said. Demand meters usually work on a 15 or 50 (and rarely 60) minute period. If you exceed the highest peak of use during any of these periods, your billing rate ratchets up. This rate remains for a period, sometimes as long as 13 months, during which your per KWH charge is higher. It does not cause you to be billed the same total amount whether or not you use it- it only affects the RATE. These are called demand charges and supposedly go to offset the cost of the extra cost they incurred to handle your little spike. I used to be the lead Field Engineer for a company that specialized in reading the meter pulses and predicting the demand minute by minute so that the system could shed load in order to keep from hitting a new 30 minute demand. It was really amazing- I could set the demand limit and then watch as it cycled fans, compressors, lights and other energy users to keep that demand down. We even built a box that controlled the load on big A/C chillers, which basically turned the water temperature up a degree or so until the prediction went down. This gear was in large buildings: hospitals, schools, factories, arenas, etc. The worst case I ever saw (or the easiest one to sell) was a Hercules plant in Louisiana, where a single peak overage cost them 0ne million dollars over the next 13 months! Ralph *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Robert West *Sent:* Thursday, August 12, 2010 11:32 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* [WISPA] Electrical Question... Putting together a new NOC. The new NOC is in an older warehouse and we ripped out ALL the crazy wiring and the multiple electrical panels. Total gut job. Installed a single phase electrical panel for the retail and service area in the front but we have three phase coming into the building. Electrician uncle Dude, 80+ years, tells me that three phase protects against power surges since it adds another transformer. My question is, would installing a three phase panel for the NOC be a proactive thing? Advantageous against the great lightning and idiotic power company Godz? (GODZ Rock And Roll Machine) Old location was all three phase and we never had one lick of trouble Not one. Would this be the reason or would it be just a stroke of luck, one that didn't involve the lottery Figures. Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Electrical Question.......
3 phase metering (as in how much you pay the utility )is done different than single phase, I would check with your utility, also check your initial costs of 3 phase equipment - meter base and entrance panel. How I understand the billing in our area is, 3 phase meter has a needle that is moved to the max use and you are billed that amount whether the elec is on or off. Just check, it may not be important but then again. Frank On 8/12/2010 8:31 PM, Robert West wrote: Putting together a new NOC. The new NOC is in an older warehouse and we ripped out ALL the crazy wiring and the multiple electrical panels. Total gut job. Installed a single phase electrical panel for the retail and service area in the front but we have three phase coming into the building. Electrician uncle Dude, 80+ years, tells me that three phase protects against power surges since it adds another transformer. My question is, would installing a three phase panel for the NOC be a proactive thing? Advantageous against the great lightning and idiotic power company Godz? (GODZ Rock And Roll Machine) Old location was all three phase and we never had one lick of trouble Not one. Would this be the reason or would it be just a stroke of luck, one that didn't involve the lottery Figures. Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Electrical Question.......
Cameron; I was currious, how does your monthly billing work where you are located. Frank On 8/12/2010 10:20 PM, cc...@dot11net.com wrote: Three phase does not provide any more or less protection against lightning. I have three phase power to my house...lucky me...live in a 60 year old house. I, and one other guy on my block who still has three phase power, both lost our AC compressors in a lightning storm on the same night two summers ago. Everyone on single phase...no problem. Three phase does have some advantages especially with efficiency with high current devices like compressors and such, but it does not provide inherent protection against power surges like lightning strikes. Cameron 3 phase metering (as in how much you pay the utility )is done different than single phase, I would check with your utility, also check your initial costs of 3 phase equipment - meter base and entrance panel. How I understand the billing in our area is, 3 phase meter has a needle that is moved to the max use and you are billed that amount whether the elec is on or off. Just check, it may not be important but then again. Frank On 8/12/2010 8:31 PM, Robert West wrote: Putting together a new NOC. The new NOC is in an older warehouse and we ripped out ALL the crazy wiring and the multiple electrical panels. Total gut job. Installed a single phase electrical panel for the retail and service area in the front but we have three phase coming into the building. Electrician uncle Dude, 80+ years, tells me that three phase protects against power surges since it adds another transformer. My question is, would installing a three phase panel for the NOC be a proactive thing? Advantageous against the great lightning and idiotic power company Godz? (GODZ Rock And Roll Machine) Old location was all three phase and we never had one lick of trouble Not one. Would this be the reason or would it be just a stroke of luck, one that didn't involve the lottery Figures. Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Cap Implementation
Matt; Thanks for sharing your information. Frank On 5/6/2010 11:11 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: Since there has been a lot of discussion about bandwidth caps on this list recently, I thought that I would share the one that we recently implemented, along with some details on how we are enforcing it and how we established the caps. Going back to day 1, we have had a 3gig cap on broadband customers with a $25/gig surcharge for anyone exceeding that amount. When we were using all StarOS V2, the radius accounting information was keeping fairly close track of the bandwidth per customer. Fast forward six years, and that cap was so low as to be a joke -- and we had not been enforcing it. It was also very difficult to collect accurate accounting data - StarOS evolved and the radius accounting became useless in version 3, so some access points were tracking it and others were not. We also have a few Tranzeo and Mikrotik access points in the system and no good way to collect the individual subscriber download information from them either. After looking at several different options for collecting the bandwidth traffic information, we decided to use open source tools to develop our own solution. We installed a switch between our core and edge routers -- behind the NAT so that it could see all customer's IP addresses -- and mirrored a port to our new collection server. The collection server is a Linux box running CentOS 5.2. The linux box is using softflowd-0.98 to collect the netflows, and flow-tools-v-0.68.5 to look at the data. Daily reports are mailed out to our techs list to show the customer who are nearing or over their caps. A customer page was created that shows the customers how much bandwidth they have used, how much they have left before charges and what their overage charges are (if any). The customer page also shows their historical usage trend for the last 12 months -- starting with April 2010 when we started collecting the information. Starting on June 1, we will bill overages as a separate charge to the customers on the 1^st of the month, regardless of their billing anniversary. The process of implementing this was quite interesting. Out of 2000+ customers, 80 used more than 10 gigs for the month. One customer - a 1 meg subscriber at the far eastern edge of our network, behind seven wireless hops and on an 802.11b AP -- downloaded 140gig. Another one, on the far western side of our network, downloaded 110gig. We called them and found out that they were watching a ton of online video. We discovered a county government connection that was around 100gig -- mostly because someone in the sheriff's department was pounding for BitTorrent files from 1am to 7am in the morning, and sometimes crashing their firewall machine because of the traffic. We also discovered that there was 80-100meg of stateless udp type traffic traversing our routed network and getting to our core router. Revised firewall rules on the APs fixed this problem. The majority of the rest of the subs on the list were either online video watchers, people with virus problems or who had left filesharing programs running on their computers. After reviewing the usage records, we decided on the following cap sizes for our plans: Package Monthly Download Cap 384k 10 gigabytes 640k 10 gigabytes 1 meg 20 gigabytes 2 meg 40 gigabytes 3 meg 50 gigabytes 4 meg 60 gigabytes 8 meg 80 gigabytes Additional capacity over cap $1 per gigabyte over the cap I feel that these caps are more than generous, and should have a minimal effect on the majority of our customers. With our backbone consumption per customer increasing, implementing caps of some kind became a necessity. I am not looking at the caps as a new profit center -- they are a deterrent as much as anything. It will provide an incentive for customers to upgrade to a faster plan with a higher cap, or take their download habits to a competitor and chew up someone else's bandwidth. This has been an educational experience, and probably one that we should have gone through a couple of years ago. I would like to thank the people on the WISPA and Butch Evans' Mikrotik lists for their input while we were developing this system. Matt Larsen Vistabeam.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe
Re: [WISPA] You're going to love this... New IRS rules
It looks to me like there might have been a change ralph On 4/28/2010 7:48 PM, Ralph wrote: This is not correct. Please don't spread FUD. Check with your CPA to find out who and when you need to 1099. Only Individuals get 1099s, and only for services- not merchandise. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 10:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] You're going to love this... New IRS rules http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2010/04/26/costly-irs-mandate-slipped-into-he alth-bill/ It requires 1099's for EVERY entity you do more than $600 business with a year. Gas station. Walmart, your landlord, a $700 used car or truck.Ebay purchases, ALL require 1099's now if you go over $600 a year. That's almost enough for me to throw up my hands and say I quit. Frankly, we should all just quit. For a week. Or a month.Call up the White House and say you want it so bad, well now you got it, we quit. When about 50 million of us do that, perhaps the administration will realize it should consult someone besides insane marxists as it concerns business and economics. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Remotely Adjusted Dish Mount
TV antenna rotator Robert West wrote: I recently acquired an 80 foot Super Heavy Duty Will-Burt telescopic mast with the goal for dual use of A) Site Survey and B) Emergency use during AP failure. I'm looking for a dish mount that can be remotely adjusted while the mast is extended. I haven't seen anything in my searches, wanted to know if anyone is using such a thing or have any recommendations of something they have seen. It's a cool toy so I gots to at least make the wife think I'm really gonna use it. Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] point to Multi-point
Thanks for the input. Rgds On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 8:19 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I would definitely use two ptp links. 411ah and xr5 boards. 20mhz channels will get you a solid 30 megs. If you want a full parts list let me know. On 4/21/10, Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com wrote: Mikrotik would be a good low cost solution. If you are looking for something that is completely integrated, I like Tranzeo or Solectek 5.8 gear. On 4/20/2010 11:48 PM, Frank Ombech wrote: There is LOS between the points, The bandwidth requirements are not so much, the connections will be used as WAN connection to access internet and some applications at the Hq so anything around 20MB should be sufficient. On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 7:42 AM, Chris Gotsteinch...@uplogon.com wrote: What are the bandwidth requirements? LOS between points? On 4/20/2010 11:40 PM, Frank Ombech wrote: hi, Im supposed to do a project to interconnect three satelite campuses to the Hq. I was looking for solutions, im thinking of using MikrotikThe campuses are on average 5Km apart. Can anyone who has done such a project give me ideas or point me in the right direction, on hardware/setup i should use. Thanks Frank WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] how to protect your kids
Now there's a vision i could have lived with out. LOL Josh Luthman wrote: I like that idea way more then living comfortably. Sitting at home on the couch naked eating Cheetos provides minimal benefit to society. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 1:18 AM, Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com wrote: Yes, it depends on what you put in. Remember that unemployment is generally what you put in, to a point. The extensions that the feds put out are actually loans to your state that get paid back via unemployment taxes that you pay later. The system works as a basic safety net. I don't mind it.. I just sweat when I am on it. ryan On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Unemployment is dependent on your previous job from what I understand. He was in the Marines. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 1:13 AM, Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com wrote: How much is unemployment in OH? I max out here at 33% of my normal salary. I tell you I sweat and sweat trying to pick up my next gig. ryan On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: My roommate is on unemployment. How do you feel it sucks? He goes to school ~12 hours a week and gets paid more then I take for salary with tuition paid. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 1:05 AM, Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com wrote: Obviously you have never been on unemployment. It sucks. ryan On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 9:12 PM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: I heard that un-employment benefits recently got extended to 100 weeks Let's give the masses' more reason to not go find a job. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 9:33 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to protect your kids Wow, you're 22 and think like that?!?! I thought that mindset was dated! Just come help with the family business and I'll make sure you eat, have a place to sleep, get a percentage of the profits :) On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: What would my allowance be with no chores? Another big thing...I never got an allowance. I worked for my money (odd jobs, helping people out, etc.)Before Rick that is. IMO it's crap. Giving a child money to do what is expected (help cleaning and keeping up the house) just makes no sense. Both my parents came from a farm - work all day every day and in turn food and a bed. On 4/19/10, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Can I adopt you? :) On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Keep in mind I am 22 and have no kids. This is my personal point of view. My parents never set guidelines or many rules (just the basic things). I have never done any drugs. Been offered and been around them more then enough. Never smoked a cigarette in my life. Never drank until I was...very close to 21. Never got in any trouble at school. My first job led to the second job/career I have today. I enjoy my life, the people around me and the things I have. My partner has 3 teenage girls. He is extremely strict. One of them gets in to trouble, disobeys, does wrong things, etc. A friend I had in high school was in the same position. I know where that
[WISPA] point to Multi-point
hi, Im supposed to do a project to interconnect three satelite campuses to the Hq. I was looking for solutions, im thinking of using MikrotikThe campuses are on average 5Km apart. Can anyone who has done such a project give me ideas or point me in the right direction, on hardware/setup i should use. Thanks Frank WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] point to Multi-point
There is LOS between the points, The bandwidth requirements are not so much, the connections will be used as WAN connection to access internet and some applications at the Hq so anything around 20MB should be sufficient. On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 7:42 AM, Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com wrote: What are the bandwidth requirements? LOS between points? On 4/20/2010 11:40 PM, Frank Ombech wrote: hi, Im supposed to do a project to interconnect three satelite campuses to the Hq. I was looking for solutions, im thinking of using MikrotikThe campuses are on average 5Km apart. Can anyone who has done such a project give me ideas or point me in the right direction, on hardware/setup i should use. Thanks Frank WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Imagestream (was Vyatta?)
http://www.imagestreamsolutions.com/Network_Cards/PCI_Cards.html Josh Luthman wrote: What everyone is saying is the Cisco is not Imagestream. I think we can all be very very very thankful of that. It's an Imagestream policy not to put in third party parts. Follow it or don't, it is your choice. I will like to know what the part costs from Imagestream as Newegg charges $45. On 4/16/10, Eje Gustafsson e...@wisp-router.com wrote: Last I heard Cisco don't provide free firmware upgrade/warranty especially on resold products unless specific IOS license is purchased with the reselling. Cisco don't provide free support period. With the myriad of PC based cards out there I don't blame IS for not providing warranty support on third party cards installed in their routers. How do you know that card isn't a cheap knock off card. Further even if it's not a knock off card maybe the revision of the card is newer or older then what IS provides and have tested out to work with their software. So should they then support a card they didn't make anything at all from selling and that they have not tested to work in their software solution? What if they came to the conclusion that specific card don't work well at all and simply decided to not offer this particular card and you buy and install this card in your IS router why should they support and warranty their router just to track it down to a non certified third party card being installed in your router? If they find this IMO it wouldn't be too much to ask for compensation for the technical support assistance you where given on a none IS product. Just like most ISPs they have their demarcation point at the Ethernet side on their CPE when they provide the CPE. So if there are issues with the client they do testing of the Ethernet side on the CPE and if everything works out well and the customer want you to trouble shoot further to see what is wrong with their computer or router almost all ISPs I talked to charge for it or they go so far as provide free broadband routers that they trust. I'm sure there are those that set themselves apart and will help out for free especially if the client is a higher $$ client or the client has a router the ISP trust in and like. I see little difference between these here. IS provide a boxed solution that can be expanded. They support and warrant their products, their cards they provide for the products because they know they work with their hardware and their software. If it doesn't they will fix it. Where is the incentive for them to fix a problem with a NIC card they didn't sell and earned any money for? When they sold the router they have appropriate margin to handle warranty and support on that particular product. If you want another card you might pay a bit of a premium over a third party card but that is the extra you pay for the extended warranty and support to handle this product as well. Just my 2 cents. / Eje -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 11:13 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Imagestream (was Vyatta?) I completely agree if the card installed is 3rd party and completely different than what Imagestream, Cisco or any OEM sells. The point is If the card is exactly the same as OEM, however being sourced from somewhere else other than the OEM, I don't see why the OEM should get their panties all in a wad and void the warranty on the product. Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Vander Dussen Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 11:00 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Imagestream (was Vyatta?) Gotta disagree Brad- show me the price point differences between any Cisco and IS that are comporable - don't forget TCO for OS upgrades etc. Are you suggesting Cisco provides a cheaper HW upgrade solution? This is like pulling your car into the oil change station, handing the guy 5 qt of your own oil that you purchased for a few bucks cheaper and a new air filter.. Doesn't work that way- everyone needs a business model that's profitable. Thanks, ‘S --- Sent mobile (and probably one handed while driving!) On Apr 16, 2010, at 8:50 AM, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote: I may be wrong on this, but I doubt Cisco will void your warranty if you buy an expansion card (exact same as you could buy from Cisco directly) and install it in your Cisco router. I'm not suggesting Imagestream should be onboard with a user installing something other than what Imagestream sells directly, but if the card the end user installs is exactly the samewhat's the problem? Imagestream doesn't keep record of how a product was configured before it was sold? So, if there is an expansion card added Imagestream can simply
Re: [WISPA] Imagestream (was Vyatta?)
Tom, You might want to check if that imagestream 2006 MoBo has pci-e slots in it Josh Luthman wrote: You just saved many people hundreds or thousands :) On 4/15/10, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: Yup... that's the one. Travis Josh Luthman wrote: Maybe this one? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833106036 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com wrote: Thanks guys! - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson To: Tom Sharples ; WISPA General List Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 7:57 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Imagestream (was Vyatta?) We installed several Intel Gigabit cards in our old Imagestream and they worked great. They were the $40 Intel desktop cards. Travis Microserv Tom Sharples wrote: Just received the imagestream gateway router (vintage 2006 or so) , unfortunately it's equipped with 4-port T1/E1 cards, not ethernet cards (sigh). Does anyone know if these will work with standard (e.g. 3com, intel, whatever) 10/100 ethernet adaptors, or do we have to use a proprietary card? Thanks, Tom S. - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta? Well, for that many NIC included, you got a steal. A single 4port Intel oem Gig card PCI-e costs $430 new. (Actually that is probably not true, cause its probably an older model that doesn't have PCI-E nic cards.) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 2:10 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta? I picked up the Gateway model, equipped with nine 4-port ethernet expansion boards, for $625 on Ebay. Seems like a good deal altho I don't know what this model costs new with the added ports. Way more than we really need. I'm looking forward to trying it out tho. Tom S. - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta? Call support and they can fix your ImageStream issues. Need to push a little bit and use the phone. To this day I've not had a response to my emails without a phone call. On 4/6/10, Scott Lambert lamb...@lambertfam.org wrote: On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 11:37:54PM -0400, Josh Luthman wrote: I really think you'll love ImageStream... I don't mind the three living ImageStream TransPort routers we inherited. Once I changed the editor to default to vi, I was pretty happy. I am not much of a fan of the interface configuration, though it is currently more flexible and transparent than pfSense for multiple subnets on the same interface. The shellcmd plugin lets me have a GUI to get around the current inadaquacy of the interface configuration GUI of pfSense 1.2.3. I do find that I will make a change to the default route on the Interface Configuration file; it will reload sand; and I will have to go to bash and route delete default, route add default gateway newip manually. Or, I will put a new subnet on an interface and can't get OSPFd to talk on that interface until I reboot the box. Just stopping and starting OSPFd didn't work. I don't know if that is an indication that I have bad hardware or what. Using suspect gear for your first experience with a platform is probably not the best situation for figuring out what is what. The other 4 inherited TransPorts all have one or more blown ethernet ports so I haven't been able to use them. I can't point to anything on the other three that screams I'm busted. Having to reboot is really annoying. Having to use the shell to manually apply desired configuration changes, annoying, but at least they give me the tools to do it. :-) I like flexibility. The biggest problem I have with going whole hog for the ImageStreams is, it would take me much longer to train guys to run the ImageStreams than it will take to train them to run pfSense. The secondary problem is cost : pfSense on Alix: $204 3 eth pfSense on soekris: $275-350 4 eth ImageStream on TransPort: $900 new 4 eth $600 e-bay. 3 eth We only do about 20 to 30 Mbps where I will have these deployed. More horsepower would be wasted. The BGP running pfSense box is a bit beefier than the Alix boxes, but didn't quite cost as much as a new TransPort. On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 11:34 PM, Scott Lambert lamb...@lambertfam.orgwrote: On Mon, Apr 05,
Re: [WISPA] Imagestream (was Vyatta?)
Also ENU inc off airport way stocks both PCI and PCIe. http://www.enuinc.com/ Frank Crawford wrote: Tom, You might want to check if that imagestream 2006 MoBo has pci-e slots in it Josh Luthman wrote: You just saved many people hundreds or thousands :) On 4/15/10, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: Yup... that's the one. Travis Josh Luthman wrote: Maybe this one? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833106036 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com wrote: Thanks guys! - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson To: Tom Sharples ; WISPA General List Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 7:57 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Imagestream (was Vyatta?) We installed several Intel Gigabit cards in our old Imagestream and they worked great. They were the $40 Intel desktop cards. Travis Microserv Tom Sharples wrote: Just received the imagestream gateway router (vintage 2006 or so) , unfortunately it's equipped with 4-port T1/E1 cards, not ethernet cards (sigh). Does anyone know if these will work with standard (e.g. 3com, intel, whatever) 10/100 ethernet adaptors, or do we have to use a proprietary card? Thanks, Tom S. - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta? Well, for that many NIC included, you got a steal. A single 4port Intel oem Gig card PCI-e costs $430 new. (Actually that is probably not true, cause its probably an older model that doesn't have PCI-E nic cards.) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 2:10 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta? I picked up the Gateway model, equipped with nine 4-port ethernet expansion boards, for $625 on Ebay. Seems like a good deal altho I don't know what this model costs new with the added ports. Way more than we really need. I'm looking forward to trying it out tho. Tom S. - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta? Call support and they can fix your ImageStream issues. Need to push a little bit and use the phone. To this day I've not had a response to my emails without a phone call. On 4/6/10, Scott Lambert lamb...@lambertfam.org wrote: On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 11:37:54PM -0400, Josh Luthman wrote: I really think you'll love ImageStream... I don't mind the three living ImageStream TransPort routers we inherited. Once I changed the editor to default to vi, I was pretty happy. I am not much of a fan of the interface configuration, though it is currently more flexible and transparent than pfSense for multiple subnets on the same interface. The shellcmd plugin lets me have a GUI to get around the current inadaquacy of the interface configuration GUI of pfSense 1.2.3. I do find that I will make a change to the default route on the Interface Configuration file; it will reload sand; and I will have to go to bash and route delete default, route add default gateway newip manually. Or, I will put a new subnet on an interface and can't get OSPFd to talk on that interface until I reboot the box. Just stopping and starting OSPFd didn't work. I don't know if that is an indication that I have bad hardware or what. Using suspect gear for your first experience with a platform is probably not the best situation for figuring out what is what. The other 4 inherited TransPorts all have one or more blown ethernet ports so I haven't been able to use them. I can't point to anything on the other three that screams I'm busted. Having to reboot is really annoying. Having to use the shell to manually apply desired configuration changes, annoying, but at least they give me the tools to do it. :-) I like flexibility. The biggest problem I have with going whole hog for the ImageStreams is, it would take me much longer to train guys to run the ImageStreams than it will take to train them to run pfSense. The secondary problem is cost : pfSense on Alix: $204 3 eth pfSense on soekris: $275-350 4 eth ImageStream on TransPort: $900 new 4 eth $600 e-bay. 3 eth We only do about 20 to 30 Mbps where I will have these deployed. More horsepower would be wasted. The BGP running pfSense box is a bit beefier than the Alix boxes, but didn't quite cost
Re: [WISPA] how to protect your kids
Speak firmly and borrow that big stick from Roosevelt when necessary. Fear of God is useless but Fear of Dad is profound. I raised 5 kids, youngest is 32, still works, no stick necessary, they just know where i keep it. Frank Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Hi All, Here's the scenario. My kids are expressly forbidden from having email addresses outside my domain. They are forbidden from having myspace, facebook etc. sites. If they want an email, fine by me, but it's one that *I* can check on. If they want a web site, fine by me, but make it a real one that *I* can delete things from. I'm trying to teach them to NOT do or say things on the internet that might bite them in the butt later. The days of people eventually forgetting the stupidity of youth or passion are long gone. Anyway, my 13 year old has a myspace account. He used a hotmail email address to get it. He had permission to use neither of them. I finally found out about the myspace account and went in to check out what he'd been saying. His trash and sent messages had both been erased between when I got the password out of him and when I had time to check on it. (I didn't know that his zune, a video player would ALSO allow him to get on the net and work on his page, talk to his friends etc. deep sigh) So, I contacted myspace, using his account, and asked for all of the deleted information. I explained that I was the father of a minor and that he had no permission to use their site and I wanted to know what was being hidden from me. I gave my full name AND phone number as well as my email address. They were very good about contacting me quickly about this issue. However they flatly refused to provide me with any information! They had NO proof of age etc. on the account. Nothing to verify that the child was over 18 etc. And *I* as the PARENT am prevented from accessing the account information! go get it from your teen is basically what I was told. WTF is this??? Absolutly amazing. So, what do the rest of you do to try to protect or control your kids these days? thanks marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] email issues
No much you can do for NDR backscatter, short of changing their address. I would suggest creating an SPF record for your domain. Frank Muto www.secureemailplus.com - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 10:17 PM Subject: [SPAM][WISPA] email issues I've got a client whose email (mkfa...@kywifi.com) appears to have been hijacked for spamming purposes. I'm not sure what to do about it. Sample email below. Any ideas? Thanks in advance! -RickG *** From: mailer-dae...@yahoo.co.jp To: mkfa...@kywifi.com Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 8:50 PM Subject: Delivery failure Message from yahoo.co.jp. Unable to deliver message to the following address(es). danjiri_girl_san...@yahoo.co.jp: Sorry your message to danjiri_girl_san...@yahoo.co.jp cannot be delivered. This account has been disabled or discontinued [#102]. ytktmm9...@yahoo.co.jp: Sorry your message to ytktmm9...@yahoo.co.jp cannot be delivered. This account has been disabled or discontinued [#102]. yuffieg...@yahoo.co.jp: Sorry your message to yuffieg...@yahoo.co.jp cannot be delivered. This account has been disabled or discontinued [#102]. y...@yahoo.co.jp: This user doesn't have a yahoo.co.jp account (y...@yahoo.co.jp) [-5] yukideschene7...@yahoo.co.jp: This user doesn't have a yahoo.co.jp account (yukideschene7...@yahoo.co.jp) [-101] yukiko_no...@yahoo.co.jp: Sorry your message to yukiko_no...@yahoo.co.jp cannot be delivered. This account has been disabled or discontinued [#102]. yukimatsuok...@yahoo.co.jp: Sorry your message to yukimatsuok...@yahoo.co.jp cannot be delivered. This account has been disabled or discontinued [#102]. yukko_pudd...@yahoo.co.jp: Sorry your message to yukko_pudd...@yahoo.co.jp cannot be delivered. This account has been disabled or discontinued [#102]. yumis...@yahoo.co.jp: Sorry your message to yumis...@yahoo.co.jp cannot be delivered. This account has been disabled or discontinued [#102]. yuri...@yahoo.co.jp: Sorry your message to yuri...@yahoo.co.jp cannot be delivered. This account has been disabled or discontinued [#102]. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] PCI Compliance
All the better to have a completely hosted service with a trusted merchant. We have no CCRD information or even a card reader. We take no CCRD payments over the phone, by email, postal mail or store CCRD information for recurring invoices. All of our invoices are sent via email with an online payment URL to make CCRD payments or direct payments from their bank account or mailed in checks. Nonetheless, PCI worries are not on our watch. Frank Muto - Original Message - From: Eje Gustafsson e...@wisp-router.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 11:01 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] PCI Compliance PCI compliance only applies to section of the network where YOU process and possibly store credit card information. If you have no over the net processing and don't store credit cards then it's easy. You fill out the form for terminal processing and just need to make sure the terminal itself is in a secured supervised location, acknowledge that credit cards are not saved or stored. If you save and store credit cards you need to certify that you are not store the whole magnetic strip info or security codes for the cards. If things are done on computer you have a more complex questioner to fill out. Are credit card info stored, if they are stored electronically the server needs to be protected by some form of firewall and only people with a need to know should be able to access the credit card details, part of the card number should be blanked out on display, no security codes are allowed to be stored. I assume your workstations and servers are on a separate segment on your network and should be protected with a firewall against any outside access (in the ISP case that also includes access from your customers and not only from the internet itself). If you have a wireless access point on that network segment it needs to be secured and only allow specific access from allowed devices and some form of encryption on any communication that reads/write credit card details. Database (or wherever your credit cards are stored) needs to be secured. If processing credit cards over the net you should have a end to end secure connection from your customers computer to the credit card gateway processor. So basically web page customer key in info needs to be secured by either ssl or some other method that sends the data in encrypted secured format. From your server to the processor the data also need to be secured (no processor I am aware of even accepts a unsecure submission of credit card details so this shouldn't be a problem on that basis). You also need to make sure that physical access to terminal and servers that process and store credit cards is secured. Also in the questioner it's asked if you have policies in place how to handle and treat credit cards, whom have access to them and what to do if any kind of breach would happen. The PCI compliance is pretty open and doesn't have for most part specific requirements when it comes to firewalls, how or what. If you store data and process data on a computer that computer needs to be protected both physically and virtually. Virtually can be a software firewall on the machine itself or it can be a hardware based firewall in front of the machine. Basically PCI compliance is all about common sense, ensure your servers are safe from any type of intrusion or theft, not to write down credit cards on scrap paper that is thrown in the trash, only allow access to credit card info to the people that have to have access to it. There are different levels and types of PCI compliance depends on how you process credit cards. Worst case scenario is if you have a regular credit card terminal or process credit cards across the network on a e-commerce type software (be it home written or professionally developed) and even worse if you store credit card details. Once you start filling out the questioner things will more than likely become a bit more clearer for you. If you store and process credit cards on computer than you need to as well have a company that is doing a PCI scan of your server to ensure hacker proof status. It will look for port vulnerabilities and web application security issues. https://www.pcisecuritystandards.org/saq/index.shtml For most people a self assessment is enough (except for server scanning where an approved company needs to be used). If your company process a LOT of credit cards per year no external auditor needs to be hired (not even my company reaches the level where an external auditor is required but we have to file twice annually because of our volume while most WISPs I would dare to say would only be a level 4 which is the lowest level and would only need to file once a year). / Eje -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 1:21 AM
Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Approved Ad] $2, 750 Worth of WISP Management Gear for $499
http://www.ebox-platform.com/ This is a better solution for the money. RickG wrote: Does anyone have one yet? On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 5:56 PM, BlueMesh sa...@bluemesh.net wrote: *Which Would You Prefer to Manage Your WISP?* *Bandwidth Controller. $500 - $1,000* *Services Router.. $475 - $1,200* *Network Access Controller... $595 - $695 + $50 / month* *MT SNMP/Monitoring Router $300 - $800* *Or* *All That Gear Packed Inside a 5 x 7 Indoor Router for only $499!* *Click here http://www.bluemesh.net to see the BlueMesh Networks Managed Router in action. * *Once the web page loads, click on the button titled See Live Demonstration of Meshview Administrative Features. If you like what you see, order yours TODAY!* * sa...@bluemesh.net or call Toll FREE (866) 630-4689* *As a new Vendor Member of WISPA (March 2010), we couldn't think of a better way to introduce ourselves than by bringing WISPA Members the latest in Network Management solutions... at an affordable price.* ***We were fighting several pieces of equipment, all running different firmware, each with their own configuration set. Then we came across BlueMesh Networks Managed Router. Our job managing the WISP suddenly became simpler, easier, and a lot less expensive. We highly recommend BlueMesh gear to WISP Owners/Operators.* *-Neil Neiwert, Owner Wilderness Wireless, Southern Idaho WISP * * * BlueMesh Networks | © 2010 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] USF Changes
Nice call RickG RickG wrote: I repeat, thats still a tax. On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 9:06 PM, Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com wrote: But USF comes from the ratepayers of the telecom services, not tax dollars. Brian -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on Behalf Of RickG Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 2:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] USF Changes As a WISP, I resent the idea that my tax dollars may be used to compete with me. As a taxpayer, at what point will the government realize we cant afford all this? -RickG On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com wrote: FCC to propose revamping Universal Service Fund AP By JOELLE TESSLER, AP Technology Writer Joelle Tessler, Ap Technology Writer – Fri Mar 5, 5:25 pm ET WASHINGTON – Federal regulators trying to bring high-speed Internet connections to all Americans will propose tapping the government program that now subsidizes telephone service in poor and rural areas. The Federal Communications Commission will include a proposal to revamp the Universal Service Fund as part of a national broadband plan due to Congress on March 17. Although the proposal itself has been expected for months, Friday's announcement offered the first solid details. The FCC said it envisions transforming the Universal Service program over the next decade to pay for high-speed Internet access instead of the traditional voice services that it currently finances. The proposal would create a Connect America fund inside the Universal Service program to subsidize broadband, and a Mobility Fund to expand the reach of so-called 3G, or third-generation, wireless networks. It's time to migrate this 20th-century program, said Blair Levin, the FCC official overseeing the broadband plan, which was mandated by last year's stimulus bill. We need to move the current system from the traditional networks to the new networks. The Universal Service Fund was established to ensure that all Americans have access to a basic telephone line. Today, the program subsidizes phone service for the poor, funds Internet access in schools and libraries and pays for high-speed connections for rural health clinics. But its biggest function is to bring telephone service to remote, sparsely populated corners of the country, where it is uneconomical for the private companies to build networks. Funding for the $8-billion-a-year program comes from a surcharge that businesses and consumers pay on their long-distance bills. That revenue base is shrinking, placing the Universal Service Fund under mounting pressure even as the FCC seeks to use it to subsidize broadband. The agency's plan will lay out several options to pay for the proposals it outlined Friday, including one that would require no additional money from Congress and one that would accelerate the construction of broadband networks if Congress approves a one-time injection of $9 billion. Either way, Levin stressed, the proposal would not increase the annual size of the Universal Service Fund, but rather would take money from subsidies now used for voice services. The FCC would also seek to save money by subsidizing no more than one broadband provider in an areas. Some critics of the program have complained that wireless companies now overlay landline systems with new networks considered duplicative. Levin said Connect America would not favor one technology over another, be it cable, DSL or wireless. The FCC proposal also envisions revamping the multibillion-dollar intercarrier compensation system, the Byzantine menu of charges that telecom carriers pay to access each other's networks and connect calls. Any changes to the Universal Service Fund would also require changes to intercarrier compensation because rural phone companies tend to rely heavily on both funding sources. The FCC's latest proposals will be part of a sweeping national roadmap for bringing universal, affordable broadband connections to all Americans. Although the plan is due on March 17, the agency has already begun releasing details, including a proposal to make more wireless spectrum available for mobile broadband connections by letting television broadcasters and others voluntarily cede some airwaves. Some of the proposals will likely require congressional action, while others might be up to the FCC to implement. Yahoo article: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100305/ap_on_hi_te/us_tec_fcc_universal_service ;_ylt=AgSGtpiLKKQbXooR3LKvT.cPLBIF;_ylu=X3oDMTMzNGcwMmcyBGFzc2V0Ay9hcC8yMDEw MDMwNS9hcF9vbl9oaV90ZS91c190ZWNfZmNjX3VuaXZlcnNhbF9zZXJ2aWNlBHBvcwM3BHNlYwN5 bl90b21ic3RvbmUEc2xrA2ZjY3RvcHJvcG9zZQ-- -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036
Re: [WISPA] Do yourself a favor
By the time the oil light, also called one of the idiot lights of the dashboard come on, or even the oil gauge, if so equipped shows danger, it may already be to late. Having been in the auto service sector before our Internet days, we saw this all too often. Well gee, the light just came on! Frank Muto - Original Message - From: Blair Davis To: WISPA General List Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Do yourself a favor I am surprised that your oil pressure gauge or oil light did not come on before that happened... Forbes Mercy wrote: I just want to share this with you, right now when you finish reading this put down the keyboard, walk outside and check the oil levels in all of your fleet. I kept threatening to get a truck serviced and kept procrastinating, today it ran out of oil and froze up. Perfectly good truck - gone. So you've read enough, now go do it, you'll thank yourself later. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT - Email Delivery Problems Killing ME - SOS lol
IMO, DKIM is not worth the time or is it as widely used as SPF/Sender ID. SPF configuration can/may get you blocked, but not necessarily increase spam folder receipts. Don't count on the receiving server to have their SPF setup properly. Depending on how you create the SPF records, can defer the message for additional filtering. Keep the SPF as short as possible, helping the large and very busy mail providers from spending to much time pinging DNS. Is your DNS service in good working order? Do all your end users always use your SMTP, or can they use other mail servers to send mail in behalf of the domain, e.g, Blackberry BIS? Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc. Google Postini Security Services Google Apps Premier Archiving www.SecureEmailPlus.com 800-246-7740 - Toll Free 630-258-7422 - Direct - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 10:15 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT - Email Delivery Problems Killing ME - SOS lol First thing I would do is ask the recipient admin for a reason why it was labeled as spam. Fix that problem and move on with the next. I'd be willing to bet with just a few site removals a lot of services get restores - few big ones out there I can't remember what they're called. Have you watched the outgoing SMTP to make sure something isn't hijacked? Send me a message with a new domain, IP, etc and see if it gets marked as spam. On 2/11/10, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: Ok, Many of our clients we do mail for are having issues and loosing patience with their email experiences with us. The usual everything used to work fine now they can't send to lots of people. I'm getting roasted. We use Smartermail enterprise, have the latest version and most of the extras you can get with it like comtouch, activesync etc... We have taken the following steps and still customers email gets delivered into spam folders of their customers which is causing headaches. Each has dedicated IP for their email domain Checked said IPs in MXtoolbox, amd many rbl blacklist checkers etc... All Green/negative Have SPF, DKIM, Domain Keys, reverse DNS etc set for them properly Basically, everything I know how to do. Still no luck, its hit or miss even on the same sites like gmail. One email works, one 30 minutes later in spam folder, next one toss a coin... Anyone who has any ideas, suggestions or can point me in the right direction would be extremely appreciated. Thanks. Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulation of net-neutrality
YES Jack Unger wrote: I trust that government will be able to keep up just fine. Do you support the alternative of making government so small that you can drown it in a bathtub? Glenn Kelley wrote: Title II of the Communications Act—the section that regulates telecommunications common carriers is now being considered by the FCC to oversee broadband. FCC Commissioner Robert M. McDowell during a talk he gave to the Free State Foundation asked: (see First Do No Harm: A broadband plan for Amercia) “Exactly what kind of companies might get tangled up into this regulatory Rubik’s Cube?…Any Internet company that offers a voice application?” … “With this newfound authority, why stop at voice apps? Isn’t voice just another type of data app? As the distinction between network operators and application providers continues to blur at an eye-popping rate, how will the government be able to keep up?” Much more on the blog: www.HostMedic.com -- _ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] About Hulu and Netflix and youtube... increaseddata delivery is here to stay.
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/105483 sa...@michianawireless.com wrote: Hmm great comcast plans on launching there own on demand service now... http://www.cedmagazine.com/News-Comcast-On-Demand-Online-live-next-month-111309.aspx; John Buwa Michiana Wireless WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] About Hulu and Netflix and youtube... increaseddata delivery is here to stay.
I want a piece of the 5 cent a Gig bandwidth, if I don't have to carry it in a bucket. Josh Luthman wrote: Ok where's my stupid stick. Some of these people need to be knocked out. I like this post: ...and so begins the war... between companies like netflix and ISPs. Both making contrary claims on the cost of bandwidth. Who knows the price of bandwidth (to the last mile) more - ISPs or Netflix? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Frank Crawford mogoo...@gmx.com wrote: http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/105483 sa...@michianawireless.com wrote: Hmm great comcast plans on launching there own on demand service now... http://www.cedmagazine.com/News-Comcast-On-Demand-Online-live-next-month-111309.aspx John Buwa Michiana Wireless WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nanostation Loco2
I was curious Bob did she say you were right or was that you talking out loud. :-P Robert West wrote: Portability is one thing to consider. He wants to use it as a client from his truck to open networks. I tried using the NS2 for the same reason but it was a pain in the butt due to the size and the plastic pipe mount stand offs on the rear of the NS2. I suppose if you could make up a magnetic mount with a short mast to put the thing on it would be better. My wife. Went to Mallorca Spain this past August to visit her mother. Wanted to take a NS2 with her so that she could pick up open networks while there. (Mom is over 80 and has no want for internet) I say, take a Loco instead, why ya want to lug a bulky NS2 all the way to Spain? But no, female... She takes a NS2. She conceded when she returned that the Loco was the better option. Too bulky for taking from place to place. (Airport security was curious about that thing, by the way) The bonus is that she never removed the Cat5 patch cable between uses, just wound it up and put it away. After a couple of days it no longer worked, she somehow caused an open in the Cat5 where it enters the plastic cover on the NS2 from bending it at too sharp of an angle. As a result, she spent a month paying for internet time at cafes. I was right for once. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 7:33 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nanostation Loco2 Have you compared them to the NS2? I'd be afraid to lose 6dbm and 2dbi...that's nearly 3 times the power! On 11/5/09, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: We have a huge network deployed using these (actually, the Nano Loco 2). They work awesome. We regularly get 18-23Mbps through them. On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Nick Olsen n...@brevardwireless.com wrote: I was thinking about getting one of these to have for using open wireless when I can't find any. Like keep it in the truck and have it if I can't find any wireless networks with just my laptop. So I'm curious as to how good they work. And what kind of power they are putting out. I Understand that receive sensitivity will be more of a factor in this case. I like that they are cheap, And can be used as a client. But Haven't found much on them in terms of specs. Nick Olsen Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x106 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] New Video and Research Shows that Libraries Play a Key Role in Connecting the Disconnected
This is a better link to what is really going on. http://www.google.com/search?q=libraries+closingie=utf-8oe=utf-8aq=trls=org.mozilla:en-US:officialclient=firefox-a RickG wrote: Received this in my email today. -RickG *** November 2, 2009 New Video and Research Shows that Libraries Play a Key Role in Connecting the Disconnected Connected Nation launches New Video and Policy Brief, “Connecting America Through Broadband at the Library” Link to Blog http://connectednation.com/in_the_news/the_blog/2009/10/new-video-and-research-shows-that.php Link to Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iz_NdjVxc1Y Link to FCC Filing http://connectednation.com/_documents/FCCLibraryAccessFiling102009FINAL.pdf Link to Graphs http://connectednation.com/_documents/LibraryApps_102809_FINAL.ppt In recent research and activities, Connected Nation has found that libraries, across the country, are playing a critical role in connecting America’s disconnected. And, Americans are already speaking out about how libraries are transforming their families’ lives through broadband. Connected Nation has captured some of these stories in a video called “Connecting America Through Broadband at the Library.” In addition, Connected Nation’s survey research--which was recently filed in a policy brief with the Federal Communications Commission—further validates the important role libraries play as a community technology hub. Below are some of these testimonies. Watch Video “Connecting America Through Broadband at the Library.” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iz_NdjVxc1Y Along with this anecdotal evidence, Connected Nation conducted surveys across the states of Tennessee and Ohio to better understand the role of libraries in the broadband age. The report has been filed with the FCC, encouraging the commission to consider the important role community anchor institutions—specifically libraries—play in the national broadband plan. Key findings of this survey research include: • Significant percentages of those who normally don't subscribe to broadband – specifically single parents, minorities and low-income residents – are relying on the local library as their sole or primary Internet resource: 25 percent of single parents, 25 percent of minorities, 18 percent of low income residents, and 11 percent of people with disabilities depend on libraries for Internet connections. • More than one-half of library Internet users (51 percent) have children at home, suggesting that a significant portion of library Internet users are children. Of this group, 42 percent do not have a broadband connected computer at home. • Library Internet users are significantly more likely than other Internet users (those who connect at home or elsewhere) to use a number of online applications related to workforce development and education, civic engagement and healthcare. • Nearly half of library Internet users (46 percent) search for jobs online, compared to 29 percent of other Internet users. • Library Internet users are significantly more likely than other Internet users to communicate online with local government officials (25 percent compared to 14 percent.) • 28 percent of library Internet users communicate online with healthcare professionals, compared to 16 percent of other Internet users. To view the filing, click here http://connectednation.com/_documents/FCCLibraryAccessFiling102009FINAL.pdf . To view more data from this survey, click here to view graphs. http://connectednation.com/_documents/LibraryApps_102809_FINAL.ppt These voices and research are already helping Connected Nation work with the Bill Melinda Gates Foundation in a pilot program called Opportunity Online. http://www.opportunityonline.org/ This initiative partners the Bill Melinda Gates Foundation, Connected Nation and the American Library Association to host broadband summits for librarians, public and private leaders and other influencers in six different states. These summits help communities across each state devise a plan for greater library connectivity, especially for libraries that cannot offer broadband connected computers. Following the summits, the libraries are offered the opportunity to apply for grants to help fund their connectivity plans. To learn more about the Opportunity Online summits, click here. http://www.opportunityonline.org/ For more information, contact Jessica Ditto at jdi...@connectednation.org or (202) 251-4749. Related Links: FCC Filing: Connecting America through Broadband at the Library: A Connected Nation® Policy Brief Watch Video: Connecting America Through Broadband at the Library In The News: Connected Nation: Libraries key to rural broadband access (The Hill, October 30, 2009) Jessica Ditto Communications Director Connected Nation 877.846.7710 - Office 202.251.4749 - Mobile jdi...@connectednation.org www.connectednation.org
Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have
They do. http://www.telephoneparts.com/index.cgi?pcode=PLT-100020-010placement=1 Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Yeah, those are awesome. I wish they had shielded connectors as well. marlon - Original Message - From: Mike m...@aweiowa.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 7:01 AM Subject: [WISPA] Gotta Have I have learned a lot from this list. I think there is some real talent lurking here. We all have discovered certain things which just make life as a WISP easier. I think it would be beneficial to list participants in general if there was a thread which contained a description and use of something you find invaluable -- hardware, software etc ... you would like to share with the group. I'll start: what: EZRJ-45 connector system where: www.ezrj45.com why: As my eyes get older, and especially in low light situations, I find it very difficult to get all those individual conductors on a CAT5 run in the right order while crimping an end. This is a quite ingenious system. The plugs have holes all the way through. You can verify the color code easily BEFORE crimping and cutting the tags. It takes a special crimp tool which has a pair of blades that cut the tags as it crimps the connector in place. Maybe not a time saver in my case, but definitely a GRIEF saver. I've not miswired an Ethernet plug since I started using this system. Mike WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] customer information
Whats your plan if they raise the tower lease to an unacceptable level. Once you have a workable plan tell them no. Frank jp wrote: We've got a municipal lease for one of our towers in a town (We have several towers/sites in the town) and it's up for renewal. The municipal leaders wants a map of all users in town and where they get their service from. They want a listing of all users intown and out of town, who use the tower on the site we lease from the town. They want a listing of revenues attributed to the site since the lease began. I don't mind giving out maps of our service area, but I think this is going a bit far, and isn't likely to be helpful. I wouldn't want such information to fall into other companies hands with an FOI request or careless distribution either. Is any of this illegal to provide? I know CPNI would prevent me from disclosing VOIP records. Any other legal impediments to sharing this? I don't make any security/privacy promises in our AUP. Showing them enough information might be helpful with my case to contribute enough information to show we aren't getting rich off the site and wish for more coverage or expansion. Showing a town coverage information is good for spreading word of mouth about where we can serve in case people didn't think we served that area. But showing all of it would be good for competitors and customers might distrust us a bit for being too free or think we are promoting identity theft. I know darn sure some celebrity customers don't want their name on a local list of clients. Any suggestions on gracefully handling such a request? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Verizon Wireless = Joke
If you keep wireless in perspective, 13.10.660 (e) (10) exempts you from 13.10.660 through 13.10.668, inclusive, and the 30 page app. As far as Tom's county, they have the same type of requirements except it only applies to licensed freq's not unlicensed. Frank Tim Sylvester wrote: In Santa Cruz County California, it can cost $25K to go through the permitting process to install an antenna. The County charges $6,000 for a use permit to install a Wireless Communication Facility. That includes towers or just adding an antenna to an existing tower or rooftop. Then they charge you another $750 to $1,000 for the building permit to install the antenna. To be on the safe side you also need to hire a land-use planner for $15K to $20K to handle the permit process on your behalf. After the antenna is installed, you have to hire an engineering firm to measure the RF emissions to make sure that the new antenna operates within the FCC RF radiation exposure standards. This doesn't include any outside engineers the county might have to hire to review your application and it does not include any fees for leasing the tower or rooftop. The county code for Wireless Communications Facilities is 30 pages long with a 30 page application. Check them out at: http://www.codepublishing.com/CA/SantaCruzCounty/html/SantaCruzCounty13/Sant aCruzCounty1310.html#13.10.659 Tim -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 10:47 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon Wireless = Joke Try T-Mobile at $4500 here. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Kilton Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 11:33 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Verizon Wireless = Joke I was interested in a Verizon Wireless tower, than they tell me there is a non-refundable $2500 application fee. WOW, what a rip off. I attached there application if nobody else has one to laugh at. -Cameron --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Verizon Wireless = Joke
Most of the ordnances that I have researched go out of there way to provide definitions for the terms that someone has deemed appropriate, with that said, there are no definitions for small scale, low powered, or short-range, compared to other wireless like cellular I'm inclined to include WIMAX, especially if it was my setup and my money. I think the operative term in the ordinance was visually inconspicuous. Frank Tim Sylvester wrote: Section 13.10.660 (3) (10) talks about: Small scale, low powered, short-range wireless internet transmitter/receivers (e.g., Wi-Fi hotspots). Would that include WiMAX? Tim -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Frank Crawford Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 5:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon Wireless = Joke If you keep wireless in perspective, 13.10.660 (e) (10) exempts you from 13.10.660 through 13.10.668, inclusive, and the 30 page app. As far as Tom's county, they have the same type of requirements except it only applies to licensed freq's not unlicensed. Frank Tim Sylvester wrote: In Santa Cruz County California, it can cost $25K to go through the permitting process to install an antenna. The County charges $6,000 for a use permit to install a Wireless Communication Facility. That includes towers or just adding an antenna to an existing tower or rooftop. Then they charge you another $750 to $1,000 for the building permit to install the antenna. To be on the safe side you also need to hire a land-use planner for $15K to $20K to handle the permit process on your behalf. After the antenna is installed, you have to hire an engineering firm to measure the RF emissions to make sure that the new antenna operates within the FCC RF radiation exposure standards. This doesn't include any outside engineers the county might have to hire to review your application and it does not include any fees for leasing the tower or rooftop. The county code for Wireless Communications Facilities is 30 pages long with a 30 page application. Check them out at: http://www.codepublishing.com/CA/SantaCruzCounty/html/SantaCruzCounty13 /Sant aCruzCounty1310.html#13.10.659 Tim -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 10:47 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon Wireless = Joke Try T-Mobile at $4500 here. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Kilton Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 11:33 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Verizon Wireless = Joke I was interested in a Verizon Wireless tower, than they tell me there is a non-refundable $2500 application fee. WOW, what a rip off. I attached there application if nobody else has one to laugh at. -Cameron --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Death Valley CA WISP
I found these WISP's outside of Death Valley: http://www.air-internet.com http://www.ezznet.com http://www.mojavedevelopment.com/Isp.htm The Panamint Springs Resort, just outside Death Valley has a Wifi network in the campground and Motel fed by a Satellite connection. With just a few exceptions, all of the Death Valley surrounding mountains are within the Park Service. A friend of a friend is the owner of some of this property that may have clear line of sight in and out of the valley. I camp and explore in and around the Death Valley area several times a year and I'm fairly familiar with the topography. Frank Keeney -Original Message- From: 3-dB Networks Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 10:09 AM Anyone know of any WISP's near Death Valley? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill
The telegraph was the Victorian Internet. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victorian_Internet Frank -Original Message- From: Robert West Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 10:07 AM Nicola Tesla had the idea back in the late 1800's but it included the telegraph Strange but true. But he was from the future, after all. :) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill
Exactly! One of the best reasons to have the Internet is to hack (with free speech) the government. Frank -Original Message- From: Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 9:02 PM Wasn't the internet made for the exact opposite of what this bill is trying to give him power to due? Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] BBS'n
I ran a BBS on a 286. Then upgraded to a 386 and four nodes using Desqview. Started with RBBS, then Wildcat with Binkleyterm on Fidonet. It was called Infomania and mostly had the Fidonet equivalent of newsgroups. Eventually it had Internet newsgroups via UUCP. The equipment is in a box in my attic from when I turned it off in 1995. Frank WlanParts.com On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Travis Johnsont...@ida.net wrote: I ran GBBS on my Apple ][+ (that I still have)... and also Proving Grounds (DD based) on that system as well. Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Content Filter Suggestion for School
http://www.opendns.com/solutions/k12/filtering/ Frank Muto Secure Email Plus www.secureemailplus.com - Original Message - From: Israel Lopez-LISTS ilopezli...@sandboxitsolutions.com To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 3:46 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Content Filter Suggestion for School OpenDNS works in a pinch. However filters for all of DNS requests originating from one public IP (Students Admins)... you could go Hardware Based Filtering... barracuda and or cymphonix boxes as well. -Israel Scott Carullo wrote: I need a web content filter for K-12 school. Paid Subscription ok. Please let me know what good products there are for this requirement. Need asap. Thanks... Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] email black lists
I couldn't agree more with Eje. DNSStuff is a must if you are serious about your mail services. Frank Muto President Secure Email Plus Google Postini Services Distributor www.SecureEmailPlus.com WISPA Vendor Member 800-246-7740 - Toll Free 630-258-7422 - Direct a href=http://www.dnsstuff.com/amember/go.php?r=509i=b11;img src=http://graphics.dnsstuff.com/images/aff-banners/ToolsBlue234x60.jpg; border=0 alt=Killer tools to troubleshoot DNS and Email width=234 height=6021-day Trial/a - Original Message - From: Eje Gustafsson e...@wisp-router.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] email black lists Any ISP running their own DNS and mail server needs to be subscribed to dnsstuff.com. Many many great DNS tools not only to test your DNS server entries on your own server but also to check how servers see lookups against your machine, to do spam db look ups and many other neat tools. Another feature they offer is RBL alerts if your mailserver gets RBL listed (gives you fast information so you can take care of a issue quickly before it goes way out of control). Plus you have their DNS alert feature so that it will automatically detect any issues without you having to run tests each time something is changed or in some cases with things break without you knowing it.. If you run your own DNS server and mail server then this will be your best spent $220 a year. I used their site for many years way back to when it was free service for the lookup tools. I tried to do without when they went pay but quickly signed up because it was invaluable to me. / Eje -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tim Kerns Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 12:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] email black lists Marlon, Also try this site http://whatismyipaddress.com/staticpages/index.php/is-my-ip-address-blacklis ted it looks on several list for you. - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:47 AM Subject: [WISPA] email black lists Hi All, We had a customer get a virus and it took us a couple of days to find out who it was. I'm off of all of the black lists that I can find, but I still can't send to a large number of companies. Hotmail, Key Bank, Frontier Net, Shaw etc. Is there a hidden black list out there somewhere? Is the a Barracuda thing or something? I'm going nuts trying to get email fixed! Here's an example of the bounce I get. All seem to be very similar, close enough that I think the same mechanism is being used by them all. idcmail.shaw.ca [24.71.223.11]: 554-idcmail.shaw.ca 554 Your connection from 64.146.146.8 has been rejected due to poor reputation. Any ideas? thanks, marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff
They switched over to a hosted service after first having Postini. Frank Muto www.SecureEmailPlus.com WISPA Vendor Member - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:12 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff We already use postini for email. Been doing that long before I even knew Franks name! He's a good guy and postini is amazingly good. He does your outbound too? - Original Message - From: Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:57 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff Marlon We use FRANK MUTO. Ever since we made the change, email has been a nice 5 letter word, instead of a repetitive prefixed 4 letter one :-). And our customers really like the change. Mostly for the full featured back end and their own spam control. Not to mention, 90% of that bandwidth usage never makes it to the gateway or our pocketbook, or latency. Since it is a paid service, I usually refer the 'extras' kids to Gmail. Have a good weekend fellow wisps, I'm outta here. Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC cprof...@cv-access.com Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:33 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff Hi All, What are you guys doing for email these days? I LOVE my setup for it's reliability, ease of use etc. Hacked customer accounts and virus's are killing me though. We don't catch things until 100,000s of messages go out and we get black listed. This has now happened 3 or 4 times in the last couple of years. My server admins aren't coming up with a solution to this other than to limit cc's to 25 per message. We did that once before and my phone rang off the hook because people can't send jokes to their friends. The other thing that makes it hard is that the log files that I get (up to 40 megs per day!) don't list the authenticated sender, only the reply address. So I see tens of thousands of messages from a user that's not even mine (faked info). sigh We use Courier MTA. My thought is to set the server to allow a max of 1000 messages per day per user. And to somehow make the log file ONLY send me the number of messages received per a user, and the number sent, user name and ip addy of all those sending. Twice now I've asked about that idea and gotten no response from the server admins. Suggestions? laters, marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FCC's Warrentless Household Searches Alarm Experts
I agree with Jack 100% and they can do it within bounds set forth in the US Constitution and Amendment IV The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. Its a bad day when the public believes gov agency's are above the law. Jack Unger wrote: FROM THE FCC WEBSITE: About the FCC The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) is an independent United States government agency. The FCC was established by the Communications Act of 1934 and is charged with regulating interstate and international communications by radio, television, wire, satellite and cable. The FCC's jurisdiction covers the 50 states, the District of Columbia, and U.S. possessions. _ In other words - The FCC has the power to shut down illegal transmitters. It's their job. It's that simple. For example, if someone is transmitting on a Fire Department frequency and jamming the Fire Department's radio system, FCC engineers respond, they locate the source of the jamming and take the jamming transmitter off the air. Same thing if someone is jamming an airport control tower frequency, or any other frequency. This principle applies to ANY transmitter including licensed transmitters, unlicensed transmitters and any transmitters, including those in wireless routers. Mike Hammett wrote: http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/05/fcc-raid/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Suggestions on Firewall
http://www.vyatta.com/ Patrick D.. Nix, Jr wrote: Maybe trying another approach... has anyone successfully implemented a firewall using Imagestream rebel with powercode? I have written some iptables rule and placed them in the post config script I can see where it is applying them but doesn't seem to be blocking properly. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bret Clark Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 11:32 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions on Firewall PFSense on a high end computer probably fit the bill...http://www.pfsense.com/ On Thu, 2009-06-18 at 10:45 -0500, Patrick D.. Nix, Jr wrote: Basically just wanting to protect our servers 8 servers total (3 email 2 DNS 1 Web 2 offsite backup) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Alan Long Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 10:34 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions on Firewall How may users behind it? How much throughput? Aerowire Alan Long Director of Network Operations alan.l...@aerowire.net 687 North Dean Road Auburn, AL 36830 tel: 3342759998 mobile: 336092 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Patrick D.. Nix, Jr Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 10:30 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Suggestions on Firewall Any suggestions on a good linux firewall distro. I'm looking at either implementing this or going with an older Cisco PIX 525. Which would be the best way to go? Something with a nice GUI would be good Thanks WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.76/2183 - Release Date: 06/18/09 05:53:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] What SIC code do you use?
As an ISP we used the following as SIC was converted to NAICS. 7375 SIC 514191 NAICS 518111 NAICS We currently use for our current services, 518210 Frank Muto www.SecureEmailPlus.com - Original Message - From: Lists li...@stlbroadband.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 12:34 PM Subject: [WISPA] What SIC code do you use? I read an article @ ISP-Planet that says: ISPs do not fit precisely into the SIC system. I use SIC code 7375, Information Retrieval Services to classify ISPs. MindSpring, on the other hand, uses code 7389, Business Services, Not Elsewhere Classified. Your best bet is to use SIC Code 7375, or visit OSHA's SIC Search for a complete list of SIC codes. Just curious what everyone else is using and why? Thanks, Victoria Proffer CEO StLouisBroadband.com ShowMeBroadband.com 314.974.5600 SBA Certified WOSB WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] FCC Adelstein to leave for RUS
Feed: News/local from www.rapidcityjournal.com Posted on: Monday, March 23, 2009 8:12 PM Author: News/local from www.rapidcityjournal.com Subject: FCC's Jonathan Adelstein asked to lead rural utility push FCC's Jonathan Adelstein asked to lead rural utility push By The Associated Press and Journal staff President Barack Obama wants FCC Commissioner Jonathan Adelstein to be the new head of the Rural Utilities Service. Adelstein is the son of Sen. Stan Adelstein, R-Rapid City. The Rural Utilities Service is part of the U.S. Department of Agriculture and was founded during the Great Depression to bring electricity to rural residents. It has just received nearly $4 billion in stimulus money to give rural America better access to high-speed Internet and clean water. In a news release, Rep. Stephanie Herseth Sandlin, D-S.D., praised Adelstein's experience. Jonathan's experience working on issues important to development in rural America will serve him well as the administrator for the USDA's Rural Utilities Service, Herseth Sandlin said in the release. His focus on improving rural telecommunications and broadband as a commissioner on the Federal Communications Commission will be particularly critical as we seek to enhance services available in rural communities in South Dakota and across the country. The president did not say who would replace Adelstein, a Democrat, at the FCC. The commission normally has five members but currently has three. Without Adelstein, it would not have a quorum, so his move to the Rural Utility Service is likely to be on hold until he is replaced. Adelstein has served on the FCC for six years. STATEMENT OF FCC ACTING CHAIRMAN MICHAEL J. COPPS ON THE NOMINATION OF COMMISSIONER ADELSTEIN TO BE ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE RURAL UTILITIES SERVICE. STMT. News Media Contact: David Fiske at (202) 418-0513 CMMR http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-289528A1.doc http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-289528A1.pdf http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-289528A1.txt STATEMENT OF FCC COMMISSIONER ROBERT MCDOWELL ON THE NOMINATION OF COMMISSIONER ADELSTEIN TO BE ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE RURAL UTILITIES SERVICE. STMT CMMR http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-289530A1.doc http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-289530A1.pdf http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-289530A1.txt Frank Muto WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ISP billing/management software.
What version of QB are you using now? Frank Muto - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Cc: memb...@wispa.org; Odessa Office 509-982-2181 off...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 10:51 AM Subject: [WISPA] ISP billing/management software. Hi All, I just got a notice that Quickbooks is going to REQUIRE an upgrade in order to continue to keep sending out bills via email. And we have all of 1 month or so to get it done I HATE Intuit and would like to replace them. Here's the work flow in our office. New customer calls in. Fill out signup sheet with all needed customer data. Assign static ip to customer. Enter customer billing info into Quickbooks. Enter all customer data into Access. Enter customer username and pass into RADIUS. Enter customer email account(s) data into email server. Enter customer data into Postini (if they purchase the filtering). Type customer signup sheet info into word doc and store in customer folder. Generate installation work order. Fill out check list showing what steps have been completed. This has worked nicely in the past and only takes about 30 minutes to accomplish. But now we're growing too fast and have gotten too big to maintain this. Between tech support calls etc. the office manager is having to bring in extra help. It's only a day per week and it's good for there to be two people there at least part of the time. No one should work alone all of the time. Plus, if she wants to take some time off she will have someone trained in the basics so we'll likely need to keep some extra help around no matter what. This mechanism also gives us a lot of double checks, redundant data points etc. With Access and Quickbooks we can run a very nice mix of reports etc. We do NOT have a customer trouble ticket mechanism other than the file on them. We don't track customers on a per call basis. That's not too bad because we're still small enough that we can normally remember problem customers. This would probably be a good time to change everything though. In my perfect world, I'd have a billing system (that handles all of the taxes for different communities etc.), trouble ticketing, auto server configuration AND deconfig. I'd want good reporting capabilities. I've looked at some of the commercial systems out there, but at $1 or more per month per sub for a full blown system I'd rather keep putting that money into the local labor pool. Freeside looks pretty good but I don't do programming or server admin work in-house. I don't mind hiring someone to set it all up etc. and to take care of the server. But it has to be an affordable solution too. What are people using? Do you like it? If you had it to do all over again, what would you do? Vendors please feel free to hit me up. marlon 509.988.0260 Or talk to Apryl in the office 509.982.2181, she'll know more about what she does day in and day out. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ISP billing/management software.
That may work for a smaller amount of customers, but when dealing with a significant amount of customers that can not be cost/time efficient thing to do. Frank - Original Message - From: Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] ISP billing/management software. Marlon, I got a notice like that from Quickbooks maybe 6 months ago. I irked me because I didn't want them to be able to force me to upgrade when my 2004 edition was doing just fine. I started using the following workaround. 1. Rather than emailing invoices directly from QB via their email gateway, I now save each completed invoice as a PDF in the subdirectory of the client that I'm invoicing. 2. From my email program, I then originate an email to the client and attach the PDF invoice. This process may take a few more seconds than the older, mail-from-QB process but it has worked out well otherwise and I feel that I am less of a victim of Intuit's marketing machine. Also, when I need to follow up with the client regarding payment status (which happens all too often these days) I can just go back to the original email that I sent them and forward it to the client along with a polite inquiry as to the payment status. jack Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Hi All, I just got a notice that Quickbooks is going to REQUIRE an upgrade in order to continue to keep sending out bills via email. And we have all of 1 month or so to get it done I HATE Intuit and would like to replace them. Here's the work flow in our office. New customer calls in. Fill out signup sheet with all needed customer data. Assign static ip to customer. Enter customer billing info into Quickbooks. Enter all customer data into Access. Enter customer username and pass into RADIUS. Enter customer email account(s) data into email server. Enter customer data into Postini (if they purchase the filtering). Type customer signup sheet info into word doc and store in customer folder. Generate installation work order. Fill out check list showing what steps have been completed. This has worked nicely in the past and only takes about 30 minutes to accomplish. But now we're growing too fast and have gotten too big to maintain this. Between tech support calls etc. the office manager is having to bring in extra help. It's only a day per week and it's good for there to be two people there at least part of the time. No one should work alone all of the time. Plus, if she wants to take some time off she will have someone trained in the basics so we'll likely need to keep some extra help around no matter what. This mechanism also gives us a lot of double checks, redundant data points etc. With Access and Quickbooks we can run a very nice mix of reports etc. We do NOT have a customer trouble ticket mechanism other than the file on them. We don't track customers on a per call basis. That's not too bad because we're still small enough that we can normally remember problem customers. This would probably be a good time to change everything though. In my perfect world, I'd have a billing system (that handles all of the taxes for different communities etc.), trouble ticketing, auto server configuration AND deconfig. I'd want good reporting capabilities. I've looked at some of the commercial systems out there, but at $1 or more per month per sub for a full blown system I'd rather keep putting that money into the local labor pool. Freeside looks pretty good but I don't do programming or server admin work in-house. I don't mind hiring someone to set it all up etc. and to take care of the server. But it has to be an affordable solution too. What are people using? Do you like it? If you had it to do all over again, what would you do? Vendors please feel free to hit me up. marlon 509.988.0260 Or talk to Apryl in the office 509.982.2181, she'll know more about what she does day in and day out. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 Cisco Press Author - Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs WISPs - Do you know where your customers are? For wireless coverage mapping see http://www.ask-wi.com/mapping FCC Lic. #PG-12-25133 LinkedIn Profile http://www.linkedin.com/in/jackunger Phone 818-227-4220 Email jun...@ask-wi.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Let's talk about that stimulus some more!
* Half of the original $7B is designated for rural communities (anyone know the precise definition of that term in this context?) Usually you need to refer to other bills for explanations and definitions. As you see in the general provisions, the Stimulus refers to the Bureau of Census, It may be easier to get the information directly from the Secretary of Agriculture, or someone who has already use such funds in the past realtive to the rural communities. American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 GENERAL PROVISIONS--THIS TITLE Sec. 101. Funds appropriated by this Act and made available to the United States Department of Agriculture for broadband direct loans and loan guarantees, as authorized under title VI of the Rural Electrification Act of 1936 (7 U.S.C. 950bb) and for grants, shall be available for broadband infrastructure in any area of the United States notwithstanding title VI of the Rural Electrification Act of 1936: Provided, That at least 75 percent of the area served by the projects receiving funds from such grants, loans, or loan guarantees is in a rural area without sufficient access to high speed broadband service to facilitate rural economic development, as determined by the Secretary: Provided further, That priority for awarding funds made available under this paragraph shall be given to projects that provide service to the highest proportion of rural residents that do not have sufficient access to broadband service: Provided further, That priority for awarding such funds shall be given to project applications that demonstrate that, if the application is approved, all project elements will be fully funded: Provided further, That priority for awarding such funds shall be given to activities that can commence promptly following approval: Provided further, That the Department shall submit a report on planned spending and actual obligations describing the use of these funds not later than 90 days after the date of enactment of this Act, and quarterly thereafter until all funds are obligated, to the Committees on Appropriations of the House of Representatives and the Senate. Rural Electrification Act of 1936 http://www.usda.gov/rus/regs/info/100-1/title_i.htm SEC. 13. DEFINITIONS.--As used in this Act the term rural area, except as provided in section 203(b), shall be deemed to mean any area of the United States not included within the boundaries of any urban area, as defined by the Bureau of the Census, and such term shall be deemed to include both the farm and nonfarm population thereof; the term farm shall be deemed to mean a farm as defined in the publications of the Bureau of the Census, the term person shall be deemed to mean any natural person, firm, corporation, or association; the term Territory shall be deemed to include any insular possession of the United States; and the term Secretary shall be deemed to mean the Secretary of Agriculture. [May 20,1936, ch. 432, Title I, §13, 49 Stat. 1367; Oct. 28,1949, ch. 776, §2, 63 Stat. 948; Nov. 1, 1993, Public Law 103-129, §2(c)(3), 107 Stat. 1363; Oct. 13, 1994, Public Law 103-354, Title II, Subtitle C, §235(a)(6), 108 Stat. 3221; 7 U.S.C.913.] SEC. 203. DEFINITION OF TELEPHONE SERVICE AND RURAL AREA.-(a) As used in this title, the term telephone service shall be deemed to mean any communication service for the transmission or reception of voice, data, sounds, signals, pictures, writing, or signs of all kinds by wire, fiber, radio, light, or other visual or electromagnetic means, and shall include all telephone lines, facilities, or systems used in the rendition of such service; but shall not be deemed to mean message telegram service or community antenna television system services or facilities other than those intended exclusively for educational purposes, or radio broadcasting services or facilities within the meaning of section 3(o) of the Communications Act of 1934, as amended. (b) As used in this title, the term rural area shall be deemed to mean any area of the United States not included within the boundaries of any incorporated or unincorporated city, village, or borough having a population in excess of 5000 inhabitants. [Oct. 28, 1949, ch. 776, §5, 63 Stat. 948; Oct. 23, 1962, Public Law 87-862, 76 Stat. 1140; Nov. 28, 1990, Public Law 101-624, Title XXIII, Subtitle F, ch. 2, §2354, 104 Stat. 4039; Nov. 1, 1993, Public Law 103-129, §2(c)(5), 107 Stat. 1364; 7 U.S.C. 924.] Frank Muto - Original Message - From: David E. Smith d...@mvn.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 11:23 AM Subject: [WISPA] Let's talk about that stimulus some more! I made a copy of the stimulus bill's complete text, just so you don't have to go searching through the Library of Congress database to find it (not that it's hard to do), here: http://images.bureau42.com/sa/stimulus.htm This is the version
Re: [WISPA] Don't forget to change the DEFAULT password...
Change the default password and secure physical access to the controls. The original article details how you can defeat the equipment even with a changed default password. http://www.i-hacked.com/content/view/274/1/ -Original Message- From: George Rogato Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 7:58 PM http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,484326,00.html WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Imail Server Upgrade Trouble
IMAIL 10 FAQ http://tinyurl.com/8ytj4b A) First make sure that your server meets the system requirements for the new version of IMail. For instance, it would be a good idea to make sure IIS is up and running with at least the default site. Also, make sure that IIS is configured to use .Net 2.0. B) Get a backup of the IMail registry keys as outlined in the following article: Backup/Restore the IMail Registry C) Install the latest version of IMail. D) If you use AV Premium, be sure to install the latest version(5.2). Note: Since we now use IIS, your web pages may be blocked if you used the old port 8383. You can change the IIS web port within IIS if you want to use port 8383 instead of port 80. Frank Muto www.SecureEmailPlus.com - Original Message - From: John Scrivner j...@scrivner.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 12:52 PM Subject: [WISPA] Imail Server Upgrade Trouble We upgraded our Imail server this morning from version 8.15 to the latest release of Imail version 10. In the process our web interface has decided to ignore our mailboxes. If anyone out there has some experience with troubleshooting mailbox rebuilding issues in Imail then please call me at 618-237-2387 as soon as you read this. Your help is appreciated. Thank you, John Scrivner WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs
As a ENET distributor, I'll agree with Mark. After testing various hosted services for 18 months, I decided on ENET back in 2006. For a hosted service I feel it is the best all around email service you can offer your customers. We use ENET mostly for backup continuity and for clients looking for a less expensive alternative to in-house Exchange, or hosted Exchange. We have the full compliment to offer, IMAP, POP3, Webmail and a customizable portal. Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc. Google Security Services Distributor- Powered by Postini www.SecureEmailPlus.com 800-246-7740 - Toll Free 630-258-7422 - Direct - Original Message - From: Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs If you only host your OWN domain, this looks like a good solution. If you host your CUSTOMER's domains, it is not, at least when I researched it before we went with Everyone.Net. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Patrick Nix Jr. pni...@cnetworksolutions.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 7:51 AM Subject: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs For those who may be using Google's branded services for ISPs can someone tell me where to go to find more information and how is it working for you. Currently we are running our email services on an out of production email server that is no longer supported and behind a Barracuda SF for spam protection. It is causing more problems than it's worth. If it were up to me I'd have everyone switch to gmail or something like that but of course people don't like to change their email addresses. Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT Mail help
You are running Barracuda, see this http://www.barracudanetworks.com/ns/downloads/barracuda_anti_spoofing_solution_white_paper.pdf Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc. Google Security Services Distributor www.SecureEmailPlus.com 800-246-7740 - Toll Free 630-258-7422 - Direct - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 2:47 PM Subject: [WISPA] OT Mail help anyone can decifer where this email is comming from? we have a Exchange server for our office, all users are receving this spam Microsoft Mail Internet Headers Version 2.0 Received: from aerosrv ([127.0.0.1]) by aeronetpr.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:19:00 -0400 Return-Path: sa...@aeronetpr.com Received: from barracuda.aeronetpr.com (barracuda.aeronetpr.com [207.15.198.4]) by mail.aeronetpr.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id mBGIoVnB031448 for sa...@aeronetpr.com; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:50:31 -0400 From: sa...@aeronetpr.com X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1229455112-480d000b-cgOvtu X-Barracuda-URL: http://207.15.198.4:8000/cgi-bin/mark.cgi Received: from host86-139-131-61.range86-139.btcentralplus.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by barracuda.aeronetpr.com (Spam Firewall) with SMTP id D80BACFE19 for sa...@aeronetpr.com; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:18:33 -0400 (AST) Received: from host86-139-131-61.range86-139.btcentralplus.com (host86-139-131-61.range86-139.btcentralplus.com [86.139.131.61]) by barracuda.aeronetpr.com with SMTP id cURjBU2C4Huq4230 for sa...@aeronetpr.com; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:18:33 -0400 (AST) X-ASG-Whitelist: Sender To: sa...@aeronetpr.com X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Re: Order status Subject: Re: Order status MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html X-Barracuda-Connect: host86-139-131-61.range86-139.btcentralplus.com[86.139.131.61] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1229455114 Message-Id: 20081216191833.d80bacf...@barracuda.aeronetpr.com Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:18:33 -0400 (AST) X-Barracuda-Virus-Scanned: by Barracuda Spam Firewall at aeronetpr.com X-IMAPbase: 1192216617 229052 Status: O X-UID: 229051 Content-Length: 681 X-Keywords: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Dec 2008 19:19:00.0739 (UTC) FILETIME=[268DED30:01C95FB3] Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT Mail help
Thanks Sam. One reason is that we have some of our clients that run both services in trials and also as secondary services. Gino, Here is a direct link to the information on Barracuda anti-spoofing, http://www.barracuda.com/kb?id=5016000GTh2 Frank - Original Message - From: Sam Tetherow tethe...@shwisp.net Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT Mail help Not very often you see that... For those that don't know Frank actually resells a competitive service (Postini). Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless (a very satisfied SecureEmailPlus customer) Frank Muto wrote: You are running Barracuda, see this http://www.barracudanetworks.com/ns/downloads/barracuda_anti_spoofing_solution_white_paper.pdf Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc. Google Security Services Distributor www.SecureEmailPlus.com 800-246-7740 - Toll Free 630-258-7422 - Direct - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 2:47 PM Subject: [WISPA] OT Mail help anyone can decifer where this email is comming from? we have a Exchange server for our office, all users are receving this spam Microsoft Mail Internet Headers Version 2.0 Received: from aerosrv ([127.0.0.1]) by aeronetpr.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:19:00 -0400 Return-Path: sa...@aeronetpr.com Received: from barracuda.aeronetpr.com (barracuda.aeronetpr.com [207.15.198.4]) by mail.aeronetpr.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id mBGIoVnB031448 for sa...@aeronetpr.com; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:50:31 -0400 From: sa...@aeronetpr.com X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1229455112-480d000b-cgOvtu X-Barracuda-URL: http://207.15.198.4:8000/cgi-bin/mark.cgi Received: from host86-139-131-61.range86-139.btcentralplus.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by barracuda.aeronetpr.com (Spam Firewall) with SMTP id D80BACFE19 for sa...@aeronetpr.com; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:18:33 -0400 (AST) Received: from host86-139-131-61.range86-139.btcentralplus.com (host86-139-131-61.range86-139.btcentralplus.com [86.139.131.61]) by barracuda.aeronetpr.com with SMTP id cURjBU2C4Huq4230 for sa...@aeronetpr.com; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:18:33 -0400 (AST) X-ASG-Whitelist: Sender To: sa...@aeronetpr.com X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Re: Order status Subject: Re: Order status MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html X-Barracuda-Connect: host86-139-131-61.range86-139.btcentralplus.com[86.139.131.61] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1229455114 Message-Id: 20081216191833.d80bacf...@barracuda.aeronetpr.com Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:18:33 -0400 (AST) X-Barracuda-Virus-Scanned: by Barracuda Spam Firewall at aeronetpr.com X-IMAPbase: 1192216617 229052 Status: O X-UID: 229051 Content-Length: 681 X-Keywords: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Dec 2008 19:19:00.0739 (UTC) FILETIME=[268DED30:01C95FB3] Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] cancelled customer email
Likewise. When we shut down our dial-up in 2002, we kept the mail service going with the domain our users had for almost 5 years, charging $60 annually, including Postini. We also do a good amount of backup email services all completely outsourced from multiple providers. Frank Muto www.SecureEmailPlus.com - Original Message - From: Scottie Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 12:52 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] cancelled customer email Easiest $5/mth I have ever made. We have dial-up customers that have switched to other companies DSL that can not get our wireless ad keep thier email with us for $60/year. I have one customer that has done it for over 3 years now. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 20:18:24 -0700 I think we keep it alive for $5/month. - Original Message - From: RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 8:12 PM Subject: [WISPA] cancelled customer email OK guys. I've never had this happen before so I'm not usre what to do. I've got a long time customer that has fallen for the ATT DSL giveaway package and is switching. He asked if he could pay a small monthly rate to keep his email addresses for a few months until he gets the word out. My first reaction is to tell him to take a flying leap. After some thought, I want to be reasonable. I've thought about telling him he can do so with a low end plan. We dont sell email accounts. How do you handle this? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DSL Tariffed
No and no. In case you missed it, the FCC Report and Order FCC 05-150 issued on 9/23/05 basically gave your business away to the RBOCS. Frank Muto www.SecureEmailPlus.com - Original Message - From: RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 10:11 PM Subject: [WISPA] DSL Tariffed I'm losing a business customer to DSL. They offered them a price much below what they advertise (6Mbps for $49). My question is: Is DSL a tariffed service and have to sell at their advertised rates? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Emergency FCC Information - Florida DIsasterArea
No. Here is the info from the FCC, http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-08-1958A1.pdf Frank - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 11:25 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: [WISP] Emergency FCC Information - Florida DIsasterArea Do you really think the FCC has specified P-15 to the be the official conduit for status reports? - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 9:19 PM Subject: [WISPA] Fw: [WISP] Emergency FCC Information - Florida DIsaster Area For anyone in Florida... marlon - Original Message - From: Bullit To: Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 10:42 AM Subject: [WISP] Emergency FCC Information - Florida DIsaster Area Disaster data collection has been activated for Tropical Storm Fay. The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) has developed the Disaster Information Reporting System (DIRS) to receive information on the status of your communications equipment in the disaster area. The area of interest for this activation is focused on those areas hardest hit by the storm and those on the projected path covering much of Central, Northeast, North Central, and Northwest Florida Counties including: Alachua, Bay, Bradford, Brevard, Calhoun, Columbia, Dixie, Escambia, Franklin, Gadsden, Gilchrist, Gulf, Hamilton, Hardee, Highlands, Holmes, Jackson, Jefferson, Lafayette, Lake, Leon, Levy, Liberty, Madison, Marion , Okaloosa, Orange , Osceola , Polk, Santa Rosa , Seminole, Sumter, Suwannee, Taylor, Union, Volusia, Wakulla, Walton, Washington. If you have communications equipment in the disaster area, the FCC requests that you provide daily reports on the status of your equipment by using PART-15.ORG. If anyone in Florida's current disaster area, please contact me off list ASAP. Michael WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Topic change - TradeAssociation Was:Report:FCCtoPunishComcast Over Web Blocking
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Forrest, let me get back to the very old conversation about why WISPA should organized at least 1500 filings to the FCC by every WISP they could get to act, to say This cannot be done. Before they even bothered to read half of them, the FCC would have been in the process of asking INDUSTRY how to do this, but no, WISPA folks had to play pussyfoot and now we're stuck with an enormous boondoggle, FOR NO BENEFIT TO ANYONE. In spite of people's best efforts at character asassination, I have never once objected to being required to help law enforcement do what it needs to do, so could we dispense with the silly nonsense already? Unless a party files a special petition pursuant to CALEA § 107(b), the Commission does not get formally involved with the compliance standards development process. CALEA also does not provide for Commission review of manufacturer-developed solutions. Entities subject to CALEA are responsible for reviewing the Commission's regulations and analyzing how this regulation applies per their specific network architecture. http://www.fcc.gov/calea/ Frank WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Topic change - Trade Association Was: Report: FCC to Punish Comcast Over Web Blocking
Tom, I'll answer your question and I need to change up the topic. In part I agree and I am not set against working this out, but Martin is setting up some bad and continuing precedence on how the FCC is working within their legal purview. He is already on the hot seat with Congress on some of his actions. Topic Change: I can guarantee you, I will be all over any actions that effect my current business, as I was unfortunately too late to make any difference saving our wireline business. Even when I co-founded the WBIA back in Oct 2004, I knew it was too late, but I have learned a great deal from it. My take away was how much the deck is stacked against when your peers don't give a hoot and unite under a common cause. But even when we showed the willingness to do something, we were able assembly a consult of people to help us guide our efforts. Peter R., Jim Garrett and a few others can attest to what my co-founder Cynthia de Lorenzi and myself were able to accomplish. Even though the RBOC's had tacit agreements underlying their competitive opportunities. XO had their say about this, http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2005_Oct_21/ai_n15728657 They are using even more group power between them against the CableCo's with a new service called, http://movearoo.com/. Essentially this is a new wrapper around a company called www.WhiteFence.com, and is powered by WhiteFence. That said, the Wi-Fi industry IMO is heading down the same path unless the alleged thousands of Wireless providers, big and small all get together under a common effort. This goes without saying that the vendor's themselves get with it as well. I'll assume there is enough purchasing power to make a difference, that could effect how companies view their relationships with the wireless industry. Prior to my ISP life, I came from the Independent automotive service industry, dealing in replacement parts and service spanning some 30 years. I can honestly tell you if were not for the trade associations in every state, you may not be able to purchase replacement parts or take your auto to a neighborhood service center. We fought for many years in keeping open trade in automotive service industry. Even when your car was going electronic and computerized, the automakers tried keeping us out of the game. But, our purchasing power with the tool companies and replacement parts industries, provided us with a significant amount of leverage in keeping the big automakers from locking us out within their own monopoly. Trade associations can make a world of difference, but only when everyone joins in. And there is NO excuse, NONE, ZIPPO, NADA for even a one-man shop or mom pop shops from joining WISPA. We had thousands of independent auto centers from one-man operations and up joining in on supporting our efforts to keep their livelihoods as safe as possible. I will got out here and say it. There is NO excuse not to support WISPA, NONE! So for all of you on this general list not supporting WISPA, you are losing out on an opportunity to make your livelihood last and support your families for years to come. $25 a month is a small price to pay for some representation in a industry that is supporting yourself and families. I am sure you can find that much on wasted expenses every month. It is also time for WISPA to come to grips with what they have accomplished over the past year and stop walking over eggs shells, thinking that you may hurt someone's feelings. STOP working for FREE! It is my opinion, that even though WISPA is a trade association, albeit a 503(c)6, it is still a business. A business that needs capital to operate for the benefit of the members. And a business that should be working for those members and be paid for their efforts. A business that continues to operate on a volunteer basis will most likely have a hard time taking it to the next level. I feel that the current WISPA membership and those to come, deserve a governing board that can eventually work fulltime in building this association like they are their own business. I see no issues with bringing on an Executive director with an extensive network or company, to kick start the momentum needed to drive WISPA to the next level, thus having the BOD be responsible for that management. This would allow even the current BOD to participate at a level within their own time capacities. In closing, as a vendor member, I take it very personally when in supporting WISPA I offer a fully-paid 1-year membership to WISPA and the recipient of that could care less. At the last ISPCON show in Chicago, I was glad to see the turn out at the WISPA exchange and was going to add a few more memberships, but I sank back into my seat after seeing the reception of the first free membership be that of so what. Let alone a thanks for it. Respectfully, Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc. www.SecureEmailPlus.com
Re: [WISPA] Topic change - Trade Association Was: Report: FCC toPunishComcast Over Web Blocking
You don't get it. CALEA was a good thing for WISPA and its members. You need to understand that you pick the battles you feel you can win. WISPA has gained a good amount of respect from the FCC, but this is only one of many battle fronts WISP's are up against. The FIGHT for US battle cry you comment on takes money, time and a good amount off leg work to make things work. You are dealing with a bureau that has many different levels of staffing, it can take weeks to know who to talk to, when and if they will talk to you, will it be ex-parte or not, etc, etc, etc. Understand that the RBOCs and other companies are clamoring for the eyes and ears of those a the FCC, as WISPs need to get to.The fight is not only on the federal level, but also at the state and local levels as well. Frank - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Topic change - Trade Association Was: Report: FCC toPunishComcast Over Web Blocking insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Frank Muto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 8:53 AM Subject: [WISPA] Topic change - Trade Association Was: Report: FCC to PunishComcast Over Web Blocking I will got out here and say it. There is NO excuse not to support WISPA, NONE! So for all of you on this general list not supporting WISPA, you are losing out on an opportunity to make your livelihood last and support your families for years to come. $25 a month is a small price to pay for some representation in a industry that is supporting yourself and families. I am sure you can find that much on wasted expenses every month. Yes, there is. Until the current leadership gets their head out of the sand and starts fighting FOR US, instead of playing the FCC's patsy, I will not give them another dollar. When the boys came back from DC and posting to the lists that CALEA and the reporting mandates were good things, I could no longer in good conscience give them another dollar to use to use AGAINST US. Whatever they did or said in DC on that topic, IN NO WAY REPRESENTED ME OR THE INTERESTS OF MY BUSINESS OR MY FUTURE. When I saw certain WISPA leadership glom onto the idea of a CALEA mandate being an opportunity to extract more money and blackmail more memberships, I was immediately convinced that they were in it FOR THEM, and not us.I even saw posting by someone who said that CALEA would be good for WISPA. Not good for the members = good for WISPA? Hell NO! I will not play that game. We got local, state and federal governemnt playing that game, why would I voluntarily add WISPA to it? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Streamlined DC Powered System
http://www.invictusnetworks.com/ - Original Message - From: Bryan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 9:07 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Streamlined DC Powered System That's where I've gotten my RMS boards most recently. Recently being 6-12 months ago... On Jul 9, 2008, at 9:36 AM, Steve wrote: Hi John, I don't know about invictusneteworks. -- John McDowell wrote: Steve, do you normally by from invictusnetworks? I'm having trouble getting to their site. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Users Still Cling to Dialup
A repost from yesterday. You can download the Pew Report here; http://www.pewinternet.org/pdfs/PIP_Broadband_2008.pdf Frank Muto www.SecureEmailPlus.com - Original Message - From: Stephen Patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 6:50 PM Subject: [WISPA] Users Still Cling to Dialup FYI Interesting, http://www.dailytech.com/Users+Still+Cling+to+Dialup/article12283.htm http://www.newser.com/article/D91M6BCO1.html Small quote from that The survey does illustrate a concern that some Americans want broadband but can't get it, denying them opportunities to work online or take classes online. Of the rural Americans on dialup, 24 percent said they would upgrade if it was available in their area, whereas only 11 percent of suburban users in areas of non-availability and 3 percent of urban users would upgrade. Regards Stephen Patrick == CABLEFREE CableFree Solutions Ltd, Holly House, St. Clare Business Park, 22 Holly Road, Hampton Hill, Middlesex, TW12 1QH, UK Tel: +44(0)20 8941 7975 Fax:+44(0)20 8941 2410 Web:www.cablefreesolutions.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] People just don't want broadband
You can download the Pew Report here; http://www.pewinternet.org/pdfs/PIP_Broadband_2008.pdf Frank Muto www.SecureEmailPlus.com - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 9:29 AM Subject: [WISPA] People just don't want broadband http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/ptech/07/02/broadband.study.ap/index.html -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda
That still puts pressure on the system resources. As a wireless provider you have enough on your plate to deal with. Options include, outsourcing email with integrated spam/virus (AS/AV) with IMAP/POP3/Webmail options, or outsource the AS/AV and take the load off of your systems. Your current mail system is there for backup should you ever need it, if you outsource email. We have some clients that split between the two by e.g., keeping their appliance, in this case Barracuda and outsourcing additional AS/AV and email. Barracuda needs to upgrade their 300/400 units with Gigabit Ethernet, IMO. Instead of selling higher priced models or additional units to cover the amount of load even for the under 500 user systems. Frank Muto www.SecureEmailPlus.com - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 8:16 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda UPDATE I just got done messing with that Untangled garbage. It has absolutely no way to configure anything. It is basically setup so all you have to do is plug it in line as a bridge and hope that it does what you want cause you can't configure it for crap. So back to the cuda. I tell you that I have turned off the use of the Barracuda black list and only use the zen.spamhaus.org BL and it is taking care of about 95% of the spam. If anyone is looking to do some basic spam filtering on the el-cheapo I would highly recommend some kind of box that all it does is checks the zen.spamhaus.org blacklist. Wish I Would have figured that out before I gave my money to the cuda. Thing is with a cuda you gotta keep feeding it (money) or it will become un-loyal and run away from you. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rogelio Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 2:18 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Has anyone used this spam firewall? http://www.untangle.com http://www.untangle.com/ it is free to install on any server. I have a Barracuda SF200 and this thing is making me angry. It is so slow I don't even bother trying to log into it. It times out constantly and is so un-responsive. When it does work it takes a min of 30 seconds to change pages and that's when it is working properly. Its not overloaded I only got 200 email addresses and its rated for 500. I would seriously stay away from untangle as an ISP-level solution. Sure, it's cool if you're a small shop with no budget, but this is not something that you want to mess with. I'm guessing (because you're asking this question on this list) that are looking for something easy. If so, seriously consider doing the Postini thing like others have suggested. I would recommend several other managed Barracuda solutions I've tried, but honestly, I've never had with them the seamless experience I've had with Postini. Or...build your own solution! Like I said in an earlier email, Qmailtoaster is solid http://www.qmailtoaster.org/ You can easily have it forward to other boxes, and it's an excellent (IMO) first defense solution for those who are budget conscious and willing to put in some (but not too much) elbow grease to fix their problem. Their listserv is good, in my opinion. The people I've talked to there have been quite helpful. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda
I look at it this way, usage is up and there is more junk coming in now than pre-2003 and even more so from 2005. Broadband speeds and increased PC horse power, are allowing faster access for the customer, but also for the spammer/hacker. IMO, for anyone using Wi-Fi and also VOIP, taking the noise off the line enhances both services significantly. If offering mail filtering, compliance archiving and related services are not on your menu to business clients, it should be. There are a number of good providers out there that can be outsourced as a reseller. Email continuity (backup hot mailboxes), message filtering for your local businesses with Exchange servers, data disaster services, are a hot market for you. There is plenty of business right in your own back yard, just waiting for your expertise. Frank Muto www.SecureEmailPlus.com - Original Message - From: Faisal Imtiaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda This is an age old argumentkeep it inhouse or outsource ? Outsource works very well as long as you have the right kind of (good match) outsource partner, and in-house works well is you are looking for full control and have extra available manpower to spare. Keep in mind that out-source does not have to be an end-all type of solution. There are a few other great outsource Anti-Spam/Anti-Virus provider. We used Postini for a long time, however a few years back they forced us to change to a different provider, when they had decided to change their business model and 'shove' a ridiculus contract down our throat. It turns out, it was the best thing that happed to us. We ended up using Katharion, which has been more accurate then Postini's service and the folks there have been excellent in providing assitance, and best of all the cost is a fraction of Postini. Another new but mature provider in the market space is TuCows, I personally do not have experience with their service but have heard good things about them. In our case, we ended up looking at the total cost of outsource vs the cost of inhouse solutions + manhours required to optimize and maintain...we came up with a figure of $6000-$7000/yes (approx $500/month), as long as the total cost of the outsource was less than this, the it was not worth bringing it inhouse. Additionally we are also able to re-coup some of this expense by being able to sell the filtering as a service to corporate customers. Regards. Faisal Imtiaz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank Muto Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 9:00 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda That still puts pressure on the system resources. As a wireless provider you have enough on your plate to deal with. Options include, outsourcing email with integrated spam/virus (AS/AV) with IMAP/POP3/Webmail options, or outsource the AS/AV and take the load off of your systems. Your current mail system is there for backup should you ever need it, if you outsource email. We have some clients that split between the two by e.g., keeping their appliance, in this case Barracuda and outsourcing additional AS/AV and email. Barracuda needs to upgrade their 300/400 units with Gigabit Ethernet, IMO. Instead of selling higher priced models or additional units to cover the amount of load even for the under 500 user systems. Frank Muto www.SecureEmailPlus.com - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 8:16 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda UPDATE I just got done messing with that Untangled garbage. It has absolutely no way to configure anything. It is basically setup so all you have to do is plug it in line as a bridge and hope that it does what you want cause you can't configure it for crap. So back to the cuda. I tell you that I have turned off the use of the Barracuda black list and only use the zen.spamhaus.org BL and it is taking care of about 95% of the spam. If anyone is looking to do some basic spam filtering on the el-cheapo I would highly recommend some kind of box that all it does is checks the zen.spamhaus.org blacklist. Wish I Would have figured that out before I gave my money to the cuda. Thing is with a cuda you gotta keep feeding it (money) or it will become un-loyal and run away from you. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rogelio Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 2:18 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Has anyone used this spam firewall? http
Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda
Outbound is not as much trouble, unless of course a customer has a virus, than inbound. Just how would the Cuda box do any checks without receiving a message? You still have all those connections coming in, so the problem still exists. Frank - Original Message - From: Scottie Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda The barracuda should do all the checks it can before the bandwidth is every used. If its not, ditch it and go with the setup I mentioned earlier. There are many checks that can be done to verify a legit email before it ever leaves the sending email server to consume any bandwidth. Scott -- Original Message -- From: Frank Muto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:33:01 -0400 I look at it this way, usage is up and there is more junk coming in now than pre-2003 and even more so from 2005. Broadband speeds and increased PC horse power, are allowing faster access for the customer, but also for the spammer/hacker. IMO, for anyone using Wi-Fi and also VOIP, taking the noise off the line enhances both services significantly. If offering mail filtering, compliance archiving and related services are not on your menu to business clients, it should be. There are a number of good providers out there that can be outsourced as a reseller. Email continuity (backup hot mailboxes), message filtering for your local businesses with Exchange servers, data disaster services, are a hot market for you. There is plenty of business right in your own back yard, just waiting for your expertise. Frank Muto www.SecureEmailPlus.com - Original Message - From: Faisal Imtiaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda This is an age old argumentkeep it inhouse or outsource ? Outsource works very well as long as you have the right kind of (good match) outsource partner, and in-house works well is you are looking for full control and have extra available manpower to spare. Keep in mind that out-source does not have to be an end-all type of solution. There are a few other great outsource Anti-Spam/Anti-Virus provider. We used Postini for a long time, however a few years back they forced us to change to a different provider, when they had decided to change their business model and 'shove' a ridiculus contract down our throat. It turns out, it was the best thing that happed to us. We ended up using Katharion, which has been more accurate then Postini's service and the folks there have been excellent in providing assitance, and best of all the cost is a fraction of Postini. Another new but mature provider in the market space is TuCows, I personally do not have experience with their service but have heard good things about them. In our case, we ended up looking at the total cost of outsource vs the cost of inhouse solutions + manhours required to optimize and maintain...we came up with a figure of $6000-$7000/yes (approx $500/month), as long as the total cost of the outsource was less than this, the it was not worth bringing it inhouse. Additionally we are also able to re-coup some of this expense by being able to sell the filtering as a service to corporate customers. Regards. Faisal Imtiaz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank Muto Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 9:00 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda That still puts pressure on the system resources. As a wireless provider you have enough on your plate to deal with. Options include, outsourcing email with integrated spam/virus (AS/AV) with IMAP/POP3/Webmail options, or outsource the AS/AV and take the load off of your systems. Your current mail system is there for backup should you ever need it, if you outsource email. We have some clients that split between the two by e.g., keeping their appliance, in this case Barracuda and outsourcing additional AS/AV and email. Barracuda needs to upgrade their 300/400 units with Gigabit Ethernet, IMO. Instead of selling higher priced models or additional units to cover the amount of load even for the under 500 user systems. Frank Muto www.SecureEmailPlus.com - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 8:16 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda UPDATE I just got done messing with that Untangled garbage. It has absolutely no way to configure anything. It is basically setup so all you have to do is plug it in line as a bridge and hope that it does what you want cause you
Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda
- Original Message - From: Scott Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 08:59:38AM -0400, Frank Muto wrote: That still puts pressure on the system resources. As a wireless provider you have enough on your plate to deal with. Options include, outsourcing email with integrated spam/virus (AS/AV) with IMAP/POP3/Webmail options, or outsource the AS/AV and take the load off of your systems. I outsource my spam scanning. I will *not* outsource my e-mail hosting. I outsourced anti-spam/anti-virus onto a barracuda model 400 because it was the model which would : A) Save me 20 hours per week of analyzing and creating rules for my SpamAssassin boxes. B) Still let me follow every message, every step of the way through the systems. C) Only need one BSF 400 to handle the load that required 2 SpamAssassin boxes. D) Allow me to rebrand the interface. E) Provide a web GUI for users to tweak their individual settings to a level which worked for them, with a quarantine holding area other than their inbox for the borderline stuff. False positives suck less if you can pull them out of the quarantine. Things like Postini provide some of the same benefits. But I really, really worry about B. I could buy a new BSF model 600 every two years for the prices I was quoted by the Postini sales guy (not you). Don't get me wrong, Barracuda makes a fine appliance and comparing them to a hosted solution with far greater processing power, 7 global data centers and 14 redundant systems, now with the strength of Google's cash and server farms, is two different things. As for B, unfortunately that is a weakness that some IT people can not give up. 45% of the IT departments in Fortune 1000 companies in the US do not have too much of that same problem. A year or two later, I bought a second model 400 to help deal with the scanning load. Spam volume had more than doubled. Currently, we see more than 700,000 message send attempts to the two boxes per day. The RBLs take out approximately 600,000 of those attempts. Your current mail system is there for backup should you ever need it, if you outsource email. We have some clients that split between the two by e.g., keeping their appliance, in this case Barracuda and outsourcing additional AS/AV and email. Barracuda needs to upgrade their 300/400 units with Gigabit Ethernet, IMO. Instead of selling higher priced models or additional units to cover the amount of load even for the under 500 user systems. I'm curious why you think the model 300/400 barracudas are desperately in need of gigabit ethernet. In my experience with e-mail handling, the network interface has never been the bottleneck. An anti-spam/anti-virus box needs lots of RAM, CPU and HD IO bandwidth. This is what we are seeing with our cross-over sales from Cuda boxes coming over to Postini and some putting Postini in front of the Cuda box. Again the two services offer like services, but are still different. Postini is an easy product to offer as a reseller and our IT resellers who swap out 300/400 units for Postini tell us the box is a bottle neck. Just in our own office network, we have some fairly high-end computers and run different NAS units for continuous backups and failover mirrored directories. When we went from a 10/100 to a Gigabit network, it was a significant boost to productivity. I feel the same could be done for the Cuda box, because selling a box based on active users, IMO no longer fits their modeling. We have Postini clients with 200-300 users out gunning clients with 3 to 4 times the amount of users. With Postini, big or small, it does not matter. I wouldn't want to have to do much more non-RBL based scanning of mail with my two model 400s but that's not due to their choice of NIC. While I do have a few reservations about Barracuda Networks, it seems really weird to be slamming them for only having 100Mbps ethernet on their low end models. The CPU and RAM in the BSF model 400 and below could never deal with a full 100Mbps of traffic. E-mail traffic is less than 4% of our total network traffic. I would like to try a MailFoundry box because they seem to compare favorably to the BSFs at a slightly lower cost. But, users *hate* change and if the MailFoundry didn't work, there would be two changes. Users switch to other providers at the slightest hint that there might be a change coming. Users are strange. Also, I don't have enough issues with the BSFs to be that interested in spending time converting to another system. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http
Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda
Just a thought, unless you have a 600 or better unit, you are running 1x10/100 Ethernet on 100-400 units vs. 2xGigabit on to 600-1000 units, IMO creating a bottleneck even with low to moderate user accounts. This is where most of our cross-over sales are from, in the lower model units. With the amount of junk email flying around out there, even active user accounts under 250 are pulling in substantial amounts of junk and direct harvest attacks. Frank Muto www.secureemailplus.com - Original Message - From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 5:13 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda Kurt, What firmware are you running? How many emails are you filtering? Have you done a hard reboot on it lately? How many Spam emails are you killing per hour? Per day? (There is a Daily Traffic graph/email that tell you this) I know mine too (Cuda) is sluggish, but it's the amount of incoming spam that is bogging us down. We are getting hammered (and have been for months) by spam in excess of 500,000 per 24 hours. I will agree - Cuda is a PITA and we will begin testing with Jeremy Davis this week. He hosts the backend (web hosting, email, radius, Freeside...etc) for a bunch of other WISPs including SPAM filtering - My fingers are crossed and if you will holler at me off list later this week I will give you a report on how things are going. Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 11:00 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda Has anyone used this spam firewall? http://www.untangle.com http://www.untangle.com/ it is free to install on any server. I have a Barracuda SF200 and this thing is making me angry. It is so slow I don't even bother trying to log into it. It times out constantly and is so un-responsive. When it does work it takes a min of 30 seconds to change pages and that's when it is working properly. Its not overloaded I only got 200 email addresses and its rated for 500. I'm looking for anything this Barracuda junk is not worth the $500 year subscription when you can't even log into it. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.101 / Virus Database: 270.4.2/1523 - Release Date: 6/28/2008 7:00 AM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda
Since when does Postini require a 3-year commitment? IMO there is more to the Frontbridge saga and even Barracuda can not fix the hiccups of MS Exchange. Frank Muto Postini - Google Apps Distributor www.SecureEmailPlus.com - Original Message - From: John Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 12:10 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda Travis, because there is an element of control that you lose when you outsource. I have a client that got really upset when an email that was addressed to 3 companies only made it to one employee. Long story short, Frontbridge saw that the email came into their servers, but only one copy went out to 1 of the companies employees. This took *several* hours and 3 different Frontbridge employees to find out. If this client had been using a Barracuda, then there wouldn't have been a problem. Before you start to flame me, I know that you aren't supposed to use email in this manner, i.e. mission critical, time sensitive Purchase orders from Asia to the US, but this client did, and they were furious. Another reason I have a problem is that both Frontbridge and Postini *require* a 3 year commitment, and you may not have to pay up front, but once you sign on, they have you for 3 years. I have a BIG problem with any business that operates like that. In this instance, the cleint is now stuck with Frontbridge for 2 1/2 years, and their attitude when asked about a refund was tough, you agreed to a 3 year term, and we have your money. John Thomas Travis Johnson wrote: And on another thought... with that much junk mail, why not use a service that blocks the spam BEFORE it uses your bandwidth and resources? Like Postini... or others. Travis Microserv Frank Muto wrote: Just a thought, unless you have a 600 or better unit, you are running 1x10/100 Ethernet on 100-400 units vs. 2xGigabit on to 600-1000 units, IMO creating a bottleneck even with low to moderate user accounts. This is where most of our cross-over sales are from, in the lower model units. With the amount of junk email flying around out there, even active user accounts under 250 are pulling in substantial amounts of junk and direct harvest attacks. Frank Muto www.secureemailplus.com - Original Message - From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 5:13 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda Kurt, What firmware are you running? How many emails are you filtering? Have you done a hard reboot on it lately? How many Spam emails are you killing per hour? Per day? (There is a Daily Traffic graph/email that tell you this) I know mine too (Cuda) is sluggish, but it's the amount of incoming spam that is bogging us down. We are getting hammered (and have been for months) by spam in excess of 500,000 per 24 hours. I will agree - Cuda is a PITA and we will begin testing with Jeremy Davis this week. He hosts the backend (web hosting, email, radius, Freeside...etc) for a bunch of other WISPs including SPAM filtering - My fingers are crossed and if you will holler at me off list later this week I will give you a report on how things are going. Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 11:00 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda Has anyone used this spam firewall? http://www.untangle.com http://www.untangle.com/ it is free to install on any server. I have a Barracuda SF200 and this thing is making me angry. It is so slow I don't even bother trying to log into it. It times out constantly and is so un-responsive. When it does work it takes a min of 30 seconds to change pages and that's when it is working properly. Its not overloaded I only got 200 email addresses and its rated for 500. I'm looking for anything this Barracuda junk is not worth the $500 year subscription when you can't even log into it. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.101 / Virus Database: 270.4.2/1523 - Release Date: 6/28/2008 7:00 AM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda
Then you should be working with a reseller/distributor like us. Some of the services do require an annual fee, but none that require a minimum 3-year commitment. At 60k emails, plus using Exchange; you are at a whole different level of resources even with Barracuda, compared to the average service provider. Frank Muto Postini - Google Apps Distributor www.SecureEmailPlus.com - Original Message - From: John Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 12:54 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda Unless you know something I don't, all the quotes we have received from Postini require a 3 year commitment, with a minimum of 1 years payment up front. For my client that has 60,000 + emails coming into his Barracuda, his Exchange 2003 server is happily running along. John Thomas Frank Muto wrote: Since when does Postini require a 3-year commitment? IMO there is more to the Frontbridge saga and even Barracuda can not fix the hiccups of MS Exchange. Frank Muto Postini - Google Apps Distributor www.SecureEmailPlus.com - Original Message - From: John Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 12:10 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda Travis, because there is an element of control that you lose when you outsource. I have a client that got really upset when an email that was addressed to 3 companies only made it to one employee. Long story short, Frontbridge saw that the email came into their servers, but only one copy went out to 1 of the companies employees. This took *several* hours and 3 different Frontbridge employees to find out. If this client had been using a Barracuda, then there wouldn't have been a problem. Before you start to flame me, I know that you aren't supposed to use email in this manner, i.e. mission critical, time sensitive Purchase orders from Asia to the US, but this client did, and they were furious. Another reason I have a problem is that both Frontbridge and Postini *require* a 3 year commitment, and you may not have to pay up front, but once you sign on, they have you for 3 years. I have a BIG problem with any business that operates like that. In this instance, the cleint is now stuck with Frontbridge for 2 1/2 years, and their attitude when asked about a refund was tough, you agreed to a 3 year term, and we have your money. John Thomas Travis Johnson wrote: And on another thought... with that much junk mail, why not use a service that blocks the spam BEFORE it uses your bandwidth and resources? Like Postini... or others. Travis Microserv Frank Muto wrote: Just a thought, unless you have a 600 or better unit, you are running 1x10/100 Ethernet on 100-400 units vs. 2xGigabit on to 600-1000 units, IMO creating a bottleneck even with low to moderate user accounts. This is where most of our cross-over sales are from, in the lower model units. With the amount of junk email flying around out there, even active user accounts under 250 are pulling in substantial amounts of junk and direct harvest attacks. Frank Muto www.secureemailplus.com - Original Message - From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 5:13 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda Kurt, What firmware are you running? How many emails are you filtering? Have you done a hard reboot on it lately? How many Spam emails are you killing per hour? Per day? (There is a Daily Traffic graph/email that tell you this) I know mine too (Cuda) is sluggish, but it's the amount of incoming spam that is bogging us down. We are getting hammered (and have been for months) by spam in excess of 500,000 per 24 hours. I will agree - Cuda is a PITA and we will begin testing with Jeremy Davis this week. He hosts the backend (web hosting, email, radius, Freeside...etc) for a bunch of other WISPs including SPAM filtering - My fingers are crossed and if you will holler at me off list later this week I will give you a report on how things are going. Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 11:00 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda Has anyone used this spam firewall? http://www.untangle.com http://www.untangle.com/ it is free to install on any server. I have a Barracuda SF200 and this thing is making me angry. It is so slow I don't even bother trying to log into it. It times out constantly and is so un-responsive. When it does work it takes a min of 30 seconds to change pages and that's when it is working properly. Its not overloaded I only got 200 email addresses and its rated for 500. I'm looking for anything this Barracuda junk is not worth
Re: [WISPA] easy voip
Yes they do, and we all know how well that has worked for the industry. Secondly, they have limited coverage applying mostly to the metro areas. A sister company I work with offers the service, but has greater sales with ATA based providers offering expanded coverage. Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc. www.SecureEmailPlus.com - Original Message - From: Wes James [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 5:25 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] easy voip If you look at the TOS, it is ad-supported. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 2 Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 5:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] easy voip They seem to work fine. Not sure what the business plan is or how they can do this, but they are working. - Original Message - From: Patrick Shoemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] easy voip There are at least two VoIP providers here that are WISPA vendor members. I am using one for my customers and would be happy to relate my experiences offlist. I'd encourage you to stay away from any software or PC based VoIP solutions and stick with ATAs. Patrick Shoemaker President, Vector Data Systems LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] office: (301) 358-1690 x36 mobile: (410) 991-5791 http://www.vectordatasystems.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] easy voip
I didn't say no rural, but for the most part, sales leads coming in have a higher percentage that do not have coverage. Frank - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:25 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] easy voip I dunno, we are rural and they have numbers out here... - Original Message - From: Frank Muto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] easy voip Yes they do, and we all know how well that has worked for the industry. Secondly, they have limited coverage applying mostly to the metro areas. A sister company I work with offers the service, but has greater sales with ATA based providers offering expanded coverage. Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc. www.SecureEmailPlus.com - Original Message - From: Wes James [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 5:25 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] easy voip If you look at the TOS, it is ad-supported. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 2 Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 5:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] easy voip They seem to work fine. Not sure what the business plan is or how they can do this, but they are working. - Original Message - From: Patrick Shoemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] easy voip There are at least two VoIP providers here that are WISPA vendor members. I am using one for my customers and would be happy to relate my experiences offlist. I'd encourage you to stay away from any software or PC based VoIP solutions and stick with ATAs. Patrick Shoemaker President, Vector Data Systems LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] office: (301) 358-1690 x36 mobile: (410) 991-5791 http://www.vectordatasystems.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik User Manager- Help needed
Post your question here and I think you will get and answer. http://www.wisp-forums.com/ Frank - Original Message - From: ralph [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 11:43 AM Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik User Manager- Help needed I'm very frustrated with this application. Having trouble getting SSL activated on the authentication server. I have posted numerous times on MT's forum and received not even one answer. I have not received any support from my support ticket either. Who is the best MT consultant to use to help me figure out what is wrong? Thanks Ralph Brightlan.net Atlanta WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FCC changes
Travis, Put a different name on it like Equipment removal fee and drive on. Frank - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 8:51 PM Subject: [WISPA] FCC changes This could turn in to something it shouldn't really fast... http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/30/AR2008053002776.html We charge 100% of the remaining contract because we are eating the cost on the equipment and rolling a truck (for both installation and pickup). Now they want to regulate how much we can charge for early termination. :( Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Email
Email does not have to be a money pit. Ever since our dialup days (97-02) we charged for email after the first account. Since 2003 email with spam filtering, Postini of course was an add-on charge. When the first major storms hit in mid-2005, all of our hosted accounts were put on AS/AV filtering and we charged for it. All of our web hosting with email are on Postini and we charge for it, or they bring their own. There is more to email now that there ever was and not just for junk mail filtering and viruses, with the latter not as much. Backup email services for continuity, compliance and retention services are now a must have instead of a nice have. Compliance and backup email services can be completely outsourced and can tie in nicely with your current services. I have IT shops that add message security services to their menu and are doing very well. Your local market is full of businesses needing these services, especially any business in the health and financial services, businesses in need of business continuity and others with just archiving needs or spam problems. Our largest clientele are those with Exchange servers, in-house or hosted. Our IT shops like I said before, tie in these additional email services and have less customer churn while increasing their average revenue per customer. Frank Muto Secure Email Plus Google Apps - Postini Distributor www.secureemailplus.com - Original Message - From: Doug Ratcliffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email We charge $60/month for a domain with 10 or less addresses. We use Hmailserver with the built in antispam and it works very good, and is open source and free, runs on Windows. I do get some spam but the false negatives are so infrequent I don't check my spambox anymore. - Original Message - From: Ross Cornett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 11:54 AM Subject: [WISPA] Email Anyone charging for email sevices? We are spending lots on email servers and Postini Services... Anyone out there charging for email and if so how is it going? Thanks Ross WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FCC approves new method for tracking broadband's reach
When ya'll get done jawjacking about crap that isn't going to get to a solution I could use some guidence about this. (There are no plans to create Block level boundary files.) http://www.census.gov/geo/www/cob/bdy_files.html With this info we can put together a self indexing program that only needs the information you allready have. It's not that big of deal provided we don't have to pay for the census data. Frank - Original Message - From: CHUCK M [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC approves new method for tracking broadband's reach Then The JURY members were uneducated boobs... a little reading and it is very evident he should not be in jail.part of the scare tactic the IRS uses every yearsad but true If one wanted to read more http://www.originalintent.org/ Chuck Moses -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: May 19, 2008 10:45 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC approves new method for tracking broadband's reach Your wrong, Wesley Snipes is going to jail for 3 years because a JURY felt he should. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Victoria Proffer Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 10:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC approves new method for tracking broadband's reach I don't know if you are aware of this but there is no law requiring you to pay income tax, have you ever read any of the U.S. code? Why do you think they want to pass a federal sales tax so bad, cause all this is coming out on the internet and people are starting to stop paying the income tax. Just type income tax on Youtube. That is why Wesley Snipes is going to jail for 3 years... On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 12:27 AM, Kurt Fankhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or perhaps you are one of those that doesn't believe the govt has the right to impose an imcome tax... I don't know if you are aware of this but there is no law requiring you to pay income tax, have you ever read any of the U.S. code? Why do you think they want to pass a federal sales tax so bad, cause all this is coming out on the internet and people are starting to stop paying the income tax. Just type income tax on Youtube. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 2 Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 12:53 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA]FCC approves new method for tracking broadband's reach While at it, bill the IRS for your time in filling out their data requests which they will use against you. Ditto the census bureau, you must be really steamed when they roll around... Or perhaps you are one of those that doesn't believe the govt has the right to impose an imcome tax... I feel godwins law about to be invoked. Tinfoil hats anyone... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Victoria Proffer CEO St. Louis Broadband Visit us @ www.StLBroadband.com 314-974-5600 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ __ NOD32 3110 (20080519) Information
Re: [WISPA] OT: Plesk
Travis, You can still buy Plesk, it's $1399.00 for unlimited :-) http://www.parallels.com/en/buyonline/plesk/linux/ Frank - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 2:07 PM Subject: [WISPA] OT: Plesk Hi, We have been running a few plesk hosting servers for the last 3-4 years. About three weeks ago they changed their pricing model from a one-time, up front purchase of their software to a monthly lease. We need to add another server, but are not interested in a lifetime monthly lease option. What is everyone else running for domain hosting boxes that allow the customers full-control of only their domain? thanks, Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Fwd: Qwest's DSL plans will make ISP's obsolete]
I can almost guarantee you that the contract had a regulatory clause killing it, and all it would have done was give the REP a 5 year commission. Typical Qwest tactic. Been there, done that. Frank - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 9:33 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Fwd: Qwest's DSL plans will make ISP's obsolete] Hi, This is really bad news. However, I have been telling my partners thiswas going to happen for almost 4 years now. Qwest used us little ISP'sto build up their network, and then they will just take it all away...and really there is nothing we can do. (My Qwest rep urged us to sign a 5 year deal on the Megahost serviceabout a year ago because he had heard there were things going on andthat the service may not be available in the next few years) I'm not sure how contacting Qwest people is going to do anything... myguess would be they will just laugh when they hang up the phone. Theyare about to own 100% of all the DSL customers that we have all builtfor them. :( TravisMicroserv George Rogato wrote: I received this email for assistance from Nick Voth, owner of Easy Street today. I'm sure there are many wisps who also offer DSL and may be affected and interested in what the future holds for you. So I'm passing this along for your benefit and I've included Nick Voth's email address for your convenience if you want to contact him directly. Original Message Subject: Qwest's DSL plans will make ISP's obsolete Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:43:20 -0600 From: Nick Voth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Nick Voth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello folks, I'm an owner of an Internet Service Provider in Denver, Colorado. If you haven't heard about the new Qwest Fiber to the Node product, you need to pay attention to this message and pass it along to others inside your company. Qwest is currently rolling out a new network that will become their primary way of delivering DSL to end users. It is a pure Ethernet based product and there is no mechanism yet to allow third party ISP's, (other than MSN), to provide service. We are already losing customers to it in Denver and there's no end in sight. It's a stated goal to make this product eventually replace the ATM based systems that we all know and enjoy. If nothing changes to allow other Internet providers to utilize the network, we will all be out of the DSL business or be forced to resell Qwest.net service. Here are the main problems we see as a third party ISP with losing control over the customer's data: - No control over IP space at all - No IP routing control - No Quality of Service for services like VPN or VoIP - No ability to monitor usage for bandwidth abuse, etc. - No ability to monitor traffic for viruses, attacks, etc. - No troubleshooting capabilities for network issues - No troubleshooting of connection troubles (authentication, etc.) - No control over rDNS (Reverse DNS for IP addresses) - No customer choice! (This will definitely drive customers to Comcast) - No margins for ISP's after circuit and Qwest.net fees (in reseller model) - Qwest.net not invisible even in wholesale environment because of IP's In short, this product will be a catastrophe to all third party ISP's because it will eventually put us out of business. I urge you to contact your Qwest representatives as soon as possible and make it clear to them how important this is. Here is a list of the most important players, (as far as I can tell): Larry Canavan (not in a position to help, but a really nice guy) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Molly Clemen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-4501 Office 612-807-7645 - Cell Matt Rotter [EMAIL PROTECTED] I understand these are the current product managers: Travis Leo 303-308-5284 Frank Simonson 303-308-5040 Also, make sure to participate in any conference call to ISP's that may be coming up. If we don't make our voices heard, Qwest will make their decisions without us. Sincerely, -Nick Voth - Nick Voth President E Street Communications http://www.estreet.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] 303-584-0640 x 1001 - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe
Re: [WISPA] The best Firewall - for the money
How else are they managing there compliance with HIPPA for the office and remote location? Not that you need to be the expert, but for those of us managing some of our clients communications, there may be a time to brush up on this topic. Frank Muto www.SecureEmailPlus.com - Original Message - From: Ron Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 9:00 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] The best Firewall - for the money Yes, you are right David, it was not specific. They need to protect their Medicial Billing Records, Patient info as well as critical info about their own business from Hackers who might discover thier business, damage some of the billing and medical data, or cause a failure in their system. Worst case would be to publish patient medical Records data, this has happened before and HHS and the Attorneys freak out, and so therefore do the Docs. Outside Access requirement is only for the Doc's wife to access the Billing System (SW) to enable work from home. I appreciate anything you are willing to share. And your pointing out the vagueness of the request was insightful, thanks very much. Ron Wallace Hahnron, Inc. 220 S. Jackson Dt. Addison, MI 49220 Phone: (517)547-8410 Mobile: (517)605-4542 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: David E. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 06:48 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] The best Firewall - for the money I have a small Medical practice that has requested a firewall for their LAN. Which would you all recommend? Price rane below $1000, Doc woule prefer $500. That's incredibly vague. What do they need to protect, from whom, and what if any outside access should be permitted? This could be as simple as a $50 Linksys router, or as complicated as a mid-range Cisco PIX (last I looked those still were in the $700-ish range). Answering the question properly will require quite a bit more information. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bumblebee???? R52H WOES
I see all these complaints on the list. I'll look into this. We won't send any more until this is sorted out. Frank Keeney Pasadena Networks, LLC -Original Message- From: Mac Dearman I just got these twenty in this morning - 2nd day air from Pasadena networks too!! CRAP! J Mac WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Microsoft offers to buy Yahoo
History is repeating itself from 2000-'01, except we have the housing subprime financial issue instead of an Enron, MCI et al implosion. Frank Muto FSM Marketing Group, Inc. Postini Gold Partner www.SecureEmailPlus.com - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 7:01 AM Subject: [WISPA] Microsoft offers to buy Yahoo http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2008/feb08/02-01CorpNewsPR.mspx http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2008/feb08/02-01CorpNewsMA.mspx Microsoft Proposes Acquisition of Yahoo! for $31 per Share Transaction valued at approximately $44.6 billion in cash and stock; provides 62 percent premium to current trading price for Yahoo! shareholders; combined entity to create a more competitive company, providing superior value to shareholders, better choice and innovation for customers and partners REDMOND, Wash. - Feb. 1, 2008 - Microsoft Corp. (NASDAQ:MSFT) today announced that it has made a proposal to the Yahoo! Inc. (NASDAQ:YHOO) Board of Directors to acquire all the outstanding shares of Yahoo! common stock for per share consideration of $31 representing a total equity value of approximately $44.6 billion. Microsoft's proposal would allow the Yahoo! shareholders to elect to receive cash or a fixed number of shares of Microsoft common stock, with the total consideration payable to Yahoo! shareholders consisting of one-half cash and one-half Microsoft common stock. The offer represents a 62 percent premium above the closing price of Yahoo! common stock on Jan. 31, 2008. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] FCC Puts Rural Broadband On The Front Burner
Earlier today, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) announced two new joint initiatives to push the continued buildout of U.S. rural broadband networks. First, the two are launching an online resource for those in rural America looking to bring the benefits of broadband services to their communities. As such, the Broadband Opportunities for Rural America Web site (http://wireless.fcc.gov/outreach/ruralbroadband) offers the expertise and resources of the FCC and USDA in a single, easily-accessible location and user-friendly format. The new site also provides information on the different technology platforms that can be used to provide broadband service, how to access spectrum necessary for delivery of wireless broadband services, government funding for broadband services, relevant FCC and USDA proceedings and initiatives, and data on broadband deployment. In addition, there are instructions on how to locate companies already licensed to provide wireless services in or near specific rural communities as well as links to other government and private resources related to encouraging broadband opportunities in rural America. In addition, the FCC and the USDA plan to conduct four educational workshops focused on rural broadband during the course of this year. In these forums, communities and organizations in rural America will be able to learn about the resources, programs, and policies of the FCC and USDA regarding broadband technology. Topics will include: The different technology platforms used to provide broadband services, USDA funding for broadband deployment, the FCC's Rural Health Care Pilot program, and wireless spectrum access. Participating communities and organizations also will be encouraged to share their experiences about broadband deployment in rural and hard-to-reach areas. The workshops, held in each of the four regions of the country - Northeast/Mid-Atlantic, South/Midwest, Central, and West - are set for the following places and dates: Blacksburg, Va. (April 30); Saginaw, Mich. (June 19); Austin, Texas (Sept. 18); and Phoenix (Nov. 20). Those interested in attending must register with the FCC no later than Feb. 25. Source: http://www.telecomweb.com/tnd/259766.html Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc. Postini Gold Partner www.SecureEmailPlus.com 800-246-7740 - Toll Free 630-258-7422 - Direct WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
