Re: [WISPA] when does a startup WISP become a successful WISP?

2008-04-19 Thread George Rogato
When you are continuously profitable? Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Whats the magic client number? Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com

[WISPA] FCC might regulate if and how ISPs can throttle Internet traffic.

2008-04-19 Thread George Rogato
We need more volunteer ism from this group. A lot of us are here just reading the list getting good ideas and advice and not really doing much to contribute to wispa as an association or industry group. Here is a situation where the feds are going to add regulation to your business. You, me,

[WISPA] -- the ISPs were not around to listen.

2008-04-19 Thread George Rogato
A man who wanted to share old music with friends, a representative from the Christian Coalition of America, film and music industry representatives, and a group of angry grandmothers showed up for a hearing on network management practices, but those who manage the networks did not.

Re: [WISPA] when does a startup WISP become a successful WISP?

2008-04-19 Thread George Rogato
How many employees you got over there Kurt? Went through your web site, very nice indeed. I like your testimonials and history section. Keep up the good work, I think your a success. George Kurt Fankhauser wrote: What are you charging per month? We are at 300 customers per employee and MRC is

Re: [WISPA] when does a startup WISP become a successful WISP?

2008-04-19 Thread George Rogato
Marlon K. Schafer wrote: roflmao ONE person can't take care of 600 subs. Your right, it takes one guy, me, to answer the phone, and another guy, my employee to go take care of that sub. So it's 2 people minimum.

[WISPA] No takers for Earthlink NOLA WiFi. Couldn't give it away.

2008-04-26 Thread George Rogato
Wow, they couldn't give the network away? Joe Laura, whats the deal there. http://news.yahoo.com/s/cmp/20080426/tc_cmp/207402189;_ylt=AqS7YkbKYk4hm1iXQp1RDuojtBAF The Internet service provider had tried a three-pronged approach before it decided to terminate the network, said Chris Marshall,

Re: [WISPA] Metered Broadband

2008-04-30 Thread George Rogato
What ever you do decide to charge on a bit cap metered unit price plan, start the base fee off at the competitive market price and then work backwards to determine how much transfer is included. An example: if you like $2.00 per gig unit price, and the typical market price in your area is say

Re: [WISPA] FCC approves new method for tracking broadband's reach

2008-05-19 Thread George Rogato
There is two paths to take young kirk. Wise one is to avoid that path altogether. Confucius say better to consult your cpa than your lawyer {BONG} Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Or perhaps you are one of those that doesn't believe the govt has the right to impose an imcome tax... I don't know

Re: [WISPA] PacWireless\Laird

2008-05-28 Thread George Rogato
We placed an order yesterday. Usually we just buy from Pac directly. But for some reason, not sure they referred my wife, the buyer to Streakwave. Maybe that will be a better option in the future. Buying from the resllers and avoiding direct sales. George

Re: [WISPA] Calling JohnnyO...

2008-05-29 Thread George Rogato
Well it's good to know your ok JohhnyO JohnnyO wrote: This is FUNNY - Where is Rick Smith ? Kurt - do you remember shaking guy wires on a tower while Rick Smith was on it ? Kurt - do you remember asking a 40+yr old woman for sex ? Kurt - do you remember lying to me and Rick about

Re: [WISPA] FCC changes

2008-06-02 Thread George Rogato
Larry Yunker wrote: but I think that cellular service is where this all started. Changes in availability, reliability, packages, and competition in the cellular market has also lead to much of the push for early termination fee (ETF) reform. There was a point in time when T Mobile was

Re: [WISPA] Rapid Link Launches WiMax Service in Atlanta

2008-06-04 Thread George Rogato
Does this mean we can all do this now? Who is the wisp? George Mike Hammett wrote: On one of the wireless lists someone stated that the FCC approved a site registration with the XR3's FCC ID. They even corrected an error in his registration. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent

Re: [WISPA] Rapid Link Launches WiMax Service in Atlanta

2008-06-04 Thread George Rogato
Thanks for explaining that Travis. I asked Jack Unger to look into this recently. There was a post somewhere else recently about 3650 use and I forwarded it to Jack to find out from the FCC if in fact it is the way the post read. I'd like to hear Jack's opinion based on what he has found out

Re: [WISPA] Rapid Link Launches WiMax Service in Atlanta

2008-06-04 Thread George Rogato
Mike, I realize your just starting out and don't have a lot of money, but 260.00 for a card added to a multiport pord or system is next to nothing compared to the benefit of having one more clean channel to work with. George Mike Hammett wrote: Yeah, I think I'm going to be passing on 3650

Re: [WISPA] Rapid Link Launches WiMax Service in Atlanta

2008-06-04 Thread George Rogato
that going again. There was ideas hashed around between them and us. Leon D. Zetekoff, NCE wrote: George...you can not plug-n-play components as I said earlier. It has to be certified as a system that makes use of a contention based protocol. Leon * George Rogato wrote, On 6/4/2008 11:22 AM

Re: [WISPA] Employee Incentives

2008-06-06 Thread George Rogato
I told my new installer that I hired 4+ years ago that for each 100 new subs we turned on, I'd give him a $1.00 per hour raise. Cameron Kilton wrote: Does anybody out there practice this method of encouragement? If so, what are some of the ways you reward your staff? Examples: Installs per

[WISPA] FCC chief's free broadband plan delayed

2008-06-06 Thread George Rogato
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080606/ap_on_hi_te/free_broadband WASHINGTON - A plan by the nation's top telecommunications regulator to provide free wireless high-speed Internet service hit a snag this week over concerns about possible interference and a proposed censoring feature that upset

Re: [WISPA] Employee Incentives

2008-06-06 Thread George Rogato
Are you using a full time employee to do your installs? We don't hand out extra money, thats what our goal is, make extra money. So naturally after working hard to get that extra money, we keep it :) Around here, we call that extra money Profit :P George Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181

Re: [WISPA] Customer Service

2008-06-06 Thread George Rogato
Not to be long on the subject. I went to a training class many years ago. The theme for the entire weekend: Throwing money at a problem is not the answer. Patrick Nix Jr. wrote: I'm just curious to get some opinions, how far do you troubleshoot over the phone with a customer before truck

Re: [WISPA] star os config help- clarifying my message

2008-06-11 Thread George Rogato
Not really trying to defend star. The documentation issue has been around since Adam met Eve. The learning curve appears to be steep, but in fact, there is pretty good documentation. If you search the forums, you will pretty much find anything you need to know. Trick is first searching the

Re: [WISPA] star os config help- clarifying my message

2008-06-11 Thread George Rogato
Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 6:56 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] star os config help- clarifying my message Not really trying to defend star. The documentation issue has been around since Adam met Eve

Re: [WISPA] star os config help- clarifying my message

2008-06-11 Thread George Rogato
and am really hoping to find a poor man's mesh. I want to try some of the Ligo mesh too, but can't afford to buy it right now. Ralph -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 9:56 AM To: WISPA

Re: [WISPA] star os config help- clarifying my message

2008-06-11 Thread George Rogato
number to try for interference mitigation? And which settings would I tweak for which things? Who the heck has time to read yet another 150+++ page manual? Put the basics right in the software! sigh marlon - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Voip over Wireless

2008-06-11 Thread George Rogato
Steve What doesn't work with Vonage? Is it the quality of the call or the service itself? Maybe I can help abit. George Steve Barnes wrote: We are a small wisp and have been asked about VOIP and I am just starting to research it. Vonage has not worked on our network. What service is

Re: [WISPA] Voip over Wireless

2008-06-12 Thread George Rogato
I've been using voip across my network for years now. One of the things we did about four years ago was build our own voip server (*) and hand out pap2's to about 100 subs for testing. We gave them free outgoing telephone service. Thats when we really learned how good the quality of voip is

Re: [WISPA] XR9 separation from other 2.4 stuff

2008-06-13 Thread George Rogato
If your using an XR9 then you won't be using channel 11. it's gonna be channel 4 through 7 in 5MHz incriments. So you will want to not use anything that overlaps those channels very much. Channel 6 will not be good, channel 11 and channel 1 will be fine. I Kurt Fankhauser wrote: So what you

Re: [WISPA] OT - Patrick has left Alvarion

2008-06-17 Thread George Rogato
Wow Patrick, After thinking about how to congratulate you on a long successful and distinguished career and to offer you some thanks for being part of the last 10 years, which indeed has been a very exciting ride. Here's what came to my mind: (Think baritone and skip the mushy stuff) Memries,

Re: [WISPA] 2012 - The End of the Internet

2008-06-19 Thread George Rogato
I don't know what to tell you Mark. I stay away from the political stuff on these industry lists because politics or the mere hint of it, gets some people inflamed. And we don't need people to be chased off because of heated discussions that offend. I'm sure you have that expression don't

Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda

2008-06-30 Thread George Rogato
Frank Muto wrote: Don't get me wrong, Barracuda makes a fine appliance and comparing them to a hosted solution with far greater processing power, 7 global data centers and 14 redundant systems, now with the strength of Google's cash and server farms, is two different things. Frank

Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server

2008-07-10 Thread George Rogato
The people that we had the most problems with were web designers who's sites were cached and they couldn't easily see their changes. We always told then to add no cache to their sites. But still it's a phone call and a discussion. Kurt Fankhauser wrote: I call that 1% the high-maintenance

Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server

2008-07-10 Thread George Rogato
of when it normally would have. No trouble with them after that. marlon - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server The people

Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server

2008-07-11 Thread George Rogato
I've been watching the internet tv for the past 9 months. CNN, FOX, NBC, etc all have their news online. It would be great if those were cachable. Just like on tv a lot of the news bits are over and over again and why should we have to keep paying each view. The content providers like akamai,

Re: [WISPA] IPTV

2007-03-27 Thread George Rogato
there already that use only a tenth of this BW? Rich - Original Message - From: George Rogato To: WISPA General List Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] IPTV Nice easy reading here. http://www.comscore.com/press/release.asp?press=1264 Looks like

Re: [WISPA] IPTV

2007-03-27 Thread George Rogato
) is being confused with Network DVR. Instead of home DVR, it will be at the NOC. Maybe the way hotel on-demand is. That's what the content companies want. We'll see. Even DISH promises Caller ID on the TV screen, but that isn't IPTV. Just some thoughts this morning. Peter -- George Rogato

Re: [WISPA] CALEA compliance methods

2007-03-27 Thread George Rogato
://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

Re: [WISPA] CALEA compliance methods

2007-03-27 Thread George Rogato
Mountains 541-969-8200 -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

[WISPA] Wireless Credit Cards

2007-03-27 Thread George Rogato
Courtesy of ATT wireless. Just wave your cell phone at the cash register! What will they think of next? -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Re: [WISPA] Wireless Credit Cards

2007-03-27 Thread George Rogato
George Rogato wrote: Courtesy of ATT wireless. Just wave your cell phone at the cash register! What will they think of next? -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman

Re: [WISPA] Wireless Credit Cards

2007-03-27 Thread George Rogato
One of these days David David E. Smith wrote: George Rogato wrote: Imagine a hacker type that could just drive downtown Tokyo and charge everyones cell phone at the same time. As Dawn mentioned, this has been big in Japan for a while, and AFAIK nothing like this has happened yet

Re: [WISPA] CALEA compliance methods

2007-03-27 Thread George Rogato
Clint Ricker wrote: Just as a general rule, CALEA monitoring is not something that you need to--or want to--do at each individual CPE or router. Wouldn't it be cool, and cheap, if it was just that easy? Here's your encrypted access to xxx customers radio / port, it's yours to monitor...?

Re: [WISPA] CALEA compliance methods

2007-03-27 Thread George Rogato
sticker issue, and now the CALEA issue, I'm pretty sure that I disagree with the majority of the members on what stance should be taken on these issues. That being the case, why should I still join? -- Blair Davis West Michigan Wireless ISP 269-686-8648 -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA

Re: [WISPA] CALEA compliance methods

2007-03-27 Thread George Rogato
membership contingent on their position on these issues. But, I do recall a discussion, on this list, 'Dealing with bad players', starting on Feb 8, that basically proposed requiring the use of stickered equipment to be a member. Not sure what became of it. George Rogato wrote: Blair Davis wrote

Re: [WISPA] Intel Announces Tremendous Breakthrough

2007-03-27 Thread George Rogato
.html?forumID=1threadID=26098messageID=25 1455start=-1 -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

Re: [WISPA] CALEA compliance methods

2007-03-27 Thread George Rogato
is that we have to work with the leadership that exists as of right now. Mark Koskenmaki Neofast, Inc Broadband for the Walla Walla Valley and Blue Mountains 541-969-8200 -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http

Re: [WISPA] FCC requests .. Bob M. what about FSO

2007-03-27 Thread George Rogato
Hey Bob M. Seeing your on list and talking about short PtP sots. What do you think about FSO, Plaintree? Have you installed much and do you like? I'm thinking that I might have to go that way and figured you could advise. George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http

[WISPA] US 'no longer technology king'

2007-03-28 Thread George Rogato
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6502725.stm Nordic crown Denmark is now regarded as the world leader in technological innovation and application, with its Nordic neighbours Sweden, Finland and Norway claiming second, fourth and 10th place respectively. -- WISPA Wireless List:

Re: [WISPA] McCaw losing money?

2007-03-28 Thread George Rogato
://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless

[WISPA] Phone Cos Eye Largest US Government Telecom Contract Ever

2007-03-28 Thread George Rogato
to provide telecommunications and networking services such as voice, video and data to all federal agencies. -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [WISPA] Tropos

2007-03-28 Thread George Rogato
easily support public and private access over one platform; as well as possibly providing different levels of speeds and services via WiFi and WiMax. http://www.unstrung.com/document.asp?doc_id=120432 -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless

Re: [WISPA] McCaw losing money?

2007-03-29 Thread George Rogato
Travis Johnson wrote: I agree with almost everything you said... except the triple play revenue... Qwest is doing a triple play system (Qwest DSL, Qwest VoIP and DirecTV) for $99 per month with $0 install. Also, I don't have a problem with 30-50 year ROI for fiber... but ClearWire is

[WISPA] Phone deal goes to Qwest, ATT, Verizon

2007-03-29 Thread George Rogato
bet they get CALEA reimbursement. George Rogato wrote: http://www.cellular-news.com/story/22625.php Four major telephone companies are eagerly eyeing a long-term government contract worth as much as US$48 billion, making it the largest telecom contract ever. The GSA's Networx Universal

Re: [WISPA] Atlanta Police and One Ring Networks Team Up To Fight Crime the Hi-tech Way

2007-03-29 Thread George Rogato
infrastructure, integration and management, and network monitoring and management. For more information, go to www.oneringnetworks.com. ### -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http

Re: [WISPA] McCaw losing money?

2007-03-29 Thread George Rogato
they offer a cut to judas goats? They do the same thing around here. What speeds and price were you offering that they picked of most of your subs? -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http

Re: [WISPA] hotspot

2007-03-29 Thread George Rogato
forward. -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

Re: [WISPA] Why Customers leave

2007-03-30 Thread George Rogato
% perceived indifference by a representative of your firm Source: U.S. News and World Report What to do about it? http://www.rad-info.net/whyleave.htm -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe

Re: [WISPA] McCaw losing money?

2007-03-30 Thread George Rogato
Alan Cain wrote: What speeds and price were you offering that they picked of most of your subs? 40.00 per month, 3 Mbps (actual). And we do offer hand holding, antivirus filtering, spam filtering and usually free truck rolls for problems (we only charge for the most clearly definable not

Re: [WISPA] Wireless ISP's

2007-03-30 Thread George Rogato
Where did you hear this Matt? Matt wrote: I was just wandering. I have heard that wireless ISP's are on the decline and most of the ones that remain are selling out or just holding there own. Is that true? I heard there were not as many at the last wispcon due to that. Matt -- WISPA

Re: [WISPA] McCaw losing money?

2007-03-31 Thread George Rogato
Marlon K. Schafer wrote: They call EVERY number in that area Not just your customers. This simply shows the level of desperation that they have. I don't see it as desperation. I see it as aggressive marketing. -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http

[WISPA] Vongo

2007-03-31 Thread George Rogato
http://www.vongo.com./ Weren't we just talking about internet tv or iptv? Here's 10.00 per month, download movies and watch them on the go! Just seen a tv commercial for this. Must be getting mainstream. -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Wireless ISP's

2007-04-01 Thread George Rogato
know that was why I didn't go. I think there are more wisps today than yesterday. -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http

Re: [WISPA] one-third of U.S. households havenoInternet...and donotplan to get it

2007-04-02 Thread George Rogato
Jeff Broadwick wrote: Personally, I think there are certain people who should NOT be allowed to have internet access! People who Yeah, people who don't pay their bills! -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

[WISPA] Is your ISP worth more than 1.2x ?

2007-04-02 Thread George Rogato
of Best Buy. The company disclosed the purchase price of approximately $97 million, which represents approximately 1.2 times Speakeasy's calendar year 2006 revenue of $80 million. Best Buy currently expects the transaction to be neutral to fiscal 2008 earnings. -- George Rogato Welcome

Re: [WISPA] Our First WISP Consultant Vendor Member - Butch Evans

2007-04-03 Thread George Rogato
/532/whatever boards if they cost $1k vs $100 each? -Charles -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail

[WISPA] Uh-Oh more 900MHz interference on it's way.....

2007-04-03 Thread George Rogato
/204445;_ylt=Au07BVlpf1245VJnRa4CavuSxLEF -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

Re: [WISPA] Our First WISP Consultant Vendor Member - Butch Evans

2007-04-03 Thread George Rogato
... Mikrotik, StarOS, etc. are selling because of price. The extra features are just a bonus. :) ... -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA

2007-04-04 Thread George Rogato
We need more help on the fcc committee. Dawn DiPietro wrote: Marlon, I am not on the WISPA FCC Committee and this should have been done before it got posted to the list to begin with. Either this committee has the time to do the job right or not at all. If something is done half assed then

Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA

2007-04-04 Thread George Rogato
Dawn DiPietro wrote: George, Sign me up and I will help where I can. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Anyone who has interest in the fcc committee has to go through Marlon who chairs that committee. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage) 42846865 (icq) [EMAIL PROTECTED] George -- WISPA

Re: [WISPA] VZ tech Support $10 per month

2007-04-04 Thread George Rogato
I like this a lot. Peter R. wrote: Verizon Launches 'Premium' Tech Support - $10 monthly fee nets DSL customers unlimited phone support, Broadband Reports, 4/3/2007 Verizon has announced a new Premium technical support service for DSL customers. For a $9.99 monthly fee, Verizon customers

Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA

2007-04-04 Thread George Rogato
with Marlon and he'll talk to you about it. Dawn DiPietro wrote: Oh great...now you tell me. ;-) George Rogato wrote: Dawn DiPietro wrote: George, Sign me up and I will help where I can. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Anyone who has interest in the fcc committee has to go through Marlon who

Re: [WISPA] VZ tech Support $10 per month

2007-04-04 Thread George Rogato
to update Windows or Virus software? -- Peter George Rogato wrote: I like this a lot. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

[WISPA] ESSID : Free Public WiFi

2007-04-04 Thread George Rogato
Anyone see ESSID : Free Public WiFi popping up in your XP laptop in ad hoc mode? I was surprised today when I got three diferent ESSID : Free Public WiFi at the same time and one was on channel 56! It was out in the middle of nowhere. I've recently started seeing them around, but not in the

Re: [WISPA] ESSID : Free Public WiFi

2007-04-05 Thread George Rogato
. . . . j o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 8:33 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] ESSID : Free Public WiFi Anyone see ESSID : Free Public WiFi popping up in your XP laptop

Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA

2007-04-05 Thread George Rogato
Dawn DiPietro wrote: Scriv, The only document I saw was the word doc named wispa calea fbi q and a which was posted to the public list on March 31. If there has been work done on it since then the public list did not get a chance to see it. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Thats right Dawn, the

Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA

2007-04-05 Thread George Rogato
membership has it's privileges! :) :) :) George Rogato wrote: Dawn DiPietro wrote: Scriv, The only document I saw was the word doc named wispa calea fbi q and a which was posted to the public list on March 31. If there has been work done on it since then the public list did not get

[WISPA] NO new customers for VONAGE

2007-04-06 Thread George Rogato
Yipes! this is going to really hurt. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070406/ap_on_hi_te/vonage_verizon_suit I wonder what this means for the rest of the voip industry... -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:

Re: [WISPA] CALEA FAQ-rant

2007-04-08 Thread George Rogato
of this stuff, but your not alone Ron. -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

Re: [WISPA] How many of you actually use your own service?

2007-04-09 Thread George Rogato
said, I was wondering... how many of you use your own service? ryan -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] How many of you actually use your own service -- Part 2!

2007-04-10 Thread George Rogato
. -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

Re: [WISPA] How many of you actually use your own service -- Part 2!

2007-04-10 Thread George Rogato
Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: 2. If so, how do you charge them for using your services? mks: No, it's free to them. They have to buy their own radio but service is free to them. It's one of the bennies of working here. Other than working for me it's probably the only one :-)

Re: [WISPA] MuniFi: Build it and they stilldon't come?

2007-04-10 Thread George Rogato
Brad Belton wrote: Surely you don't see this as any kind of surprise? Like I've been saying all along, the Cellular guys will dominate the Mobile User market. Muni-Networks are, IMO, largely a get rich quick scheme for the few that are talented enough to sway overeager city counsels into

Re: [WISPA] Vonage wins temporary reprieve against signing up new customers

2007-04-13 Thread George Rogato
Peter R. wrote: Turns out that VZ may not be the patent holder. Tom Keating has some interesting insight. And there is this patent: http://sabreean.com/?p=1421#more-1421 Yikes, Vonage gets whacked around from Verizon and what happens if it turns out Verizon is not the patent holder? --

Re: [WISPA] Main Street USA

2007-04-20 Thread George Rogato
noise, self interference, and speeds? -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

Re: [WISPA] OT: Main Street USA

2007-04-20 Thread George Rogato
... I keep seeing the Main Street USA subject line and need to post... and it's Friday... :) Which state in the US has the longest main street and how long is it? Travis Microserv -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless

Re: [WISPA] Clearwire

2007-04-20 Thread George Rogato
to investors for more. That's a scary prospect for investors, so it's not surprising that the stock is already volatile, with a 10% drop on Friday and another 8% drop in Monday trading. For Foolish investors, it's probably a good bet to stay clear of Clearwire. -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA

Re: [WISPA] FCC Admits Mistakes In Measuring Broadband Competition

2007-04-20 Thread George Rogato
I believe that we are at a junction where if there is a need for broadband and those in need make it known, that the competitive private sector will gladly step up and offer service. Isn't that where most of us are at now? Looking for new markets? George Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181

Re: [WISPA] FCC Admits Mistakes In Measuring Broadband Competition

2007-04-20 Thread George Rogato
I can tell you that I have talked to wisps that want nothing to do with FCC, 477, CALEA or anyone that wants to know about their business. So there is quite a large percentage that will not show up on the radar. It would be hard to imagine that the supply chain to this industry would survive

[WISPA] Weekend Trivia

2007-04-21 Thread George Rogato
Anyone know who this mug belongs to? http://www.phoneplusmag.com/articlemanagerimages/Img-2007041716201065626.jpg? :) -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman

Re: [WISPA] Weekend Trivia

2007-04-21 Thread George Rogato
OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Founding Member of WISPA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 11:13 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Weekend Trivia Anyone know who

Re: [WISPA] 5GHz Amps

2007-04-23 Thread George Rogato
Wireless) 818-227-4220 www.ask-wi.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA

Re: [WISPA] FCC Admits Mistakes In Measuring Broadband Competition

2007-04-23 Thread George Rogato
stuff for free, And your correct, but this other part is incorrect: you don't give them stuff for free Yes we do. -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [WISPA] FCC Admits Mistakes In Measuring Broadband Competition

2007-04-23 Thread George Rogato
you don't give them stuff for free Yes we do. Care to quantify this statement? Sure, the government has never paid me to give them taxes. George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http

Re: [WISPA] Modifications of Part s 2 and 15 of the,Commission’s Rules for unlicensed devices and,equipment approval

2007-04-25 Thread George Rogato
Tim Kerns wrote: I find reading all these notices very difficult... I think they hire writers just to confuse us I thought it was lawyers... -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe

Re: [WISPA] Modifications of Parts 2 and 15 of the, Commission's Rules for unlicensed devices and, equipment approval

2007-04-25 Thread George Rogato
/ Gateworks, etc SBC's are nothing but PARTS of already certified systems. The CPU's and other parts are common parts. They'd probably qualify under plain old declaration of compliance rules. -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List

Re: [WISPA] CALEA Costs-Shifting Relief

2007-04-26 Thread George Rogato
On one of the documents that I've rad that maybe is not that public, they have taken into consideration that some isp's can not afford to impliment calea and they have a solution for that. Dawn DiPietro wrote: Peter, Thank you for posting this information. Since there is a $5000

Re: [WISPA] LEMMINGS?

2007-04-26 Thread George Rogato
Jeromie Reeves wrote: On 4/19/07, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: as Patrick Henry once said Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated. Who is Patrick Henry?? Didn't Patrick Henry say Give me liberty or give me death? -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:

Re: [WISPA] Lemmings - suggestions

2007-04-26 Thread George Rogato
Peter R. wrote: Mr. Hush, Excellent plan. What agenda item will you be working on first? SUGGESTIONS of what to do: we have decided to stage a cyclic disconnect from public Inet in protest. I'm confused... Is he saying to turn the internet off for his customers? Is this supposed to have

Re: [WISPA] LEMMINGS?

2007-04-26 Thread George Rogato
Being from Massachusetts and studying the American Revolution through out my youth, which is one exciting piece of history, Patrick Henry and Give me Liberty or give me Death has to be one of the cornerstone of my beliefs. Jeromie Reeves wrote: On 4/26/07, George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [WISPA] LEMMINGS?

2007-04-26 Thread George Rogato
Mark Koskenmaki wrote: No, it means I thumb my nose at them when they come along and tell me I have do something for them...for free. Well I for one don't want to have to pay higher taxes so that the government can pay industry to conform with their requirements. I kinda like user fees

Re: [WISPA] Lemmings - suggestions

2007-04-26 Thread George Rogato
Peter R. wrote: George Rogato wrote: Peter R. wrote: Mr. Hush, Excellent plan. What agenda item will you be working on first? SUGGESTIONS of what to do: we have decided to stage a cyclic disconnect from public Inet in protest. I'm confused... Is he saying to turn the internet off

Re: [WISPA] WISP Peering

2007-04-26 Thread George Rogato
Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Two of my competitors just sat down for lunch and worked out a network sharing agreement. It's a handshake deal at this point though. Basically we carved up a hilltop laying out coverage zones for each of us, and we set a price for using each other's

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