Re: [WISPA] Mesh Equipment
Tom and Brian: So very eloquantly said! Do Motorola - and companies like them - a favour: please forward these comments to them. They need to hear this, and will be a better company if they hear and heed it. Linda Linda Pond President Customer Connects Bridging Technology Relationships www.customerconnects.com 613-253-0240 (w) 613-291-2884 (c) BLOG: http://lindaleepond.blogspot.com/ - Original Message - From: Brian Webster [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 2:56 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Mesh Equipment Quoting Tom: What often happens, is technical people make these beautiful products from a technical point of view, but they are worthless because they don't solve the problems that need to be solved for its applications, which were the reasons for originally developing the technology. Man have you hot the nail on the head! Motorola is a company that gets caught in this all the time. I can't tell you how many times over the years I went to product introduction seminars as a 2 way radio dealer and the lead engineer would be touting all the cool wiz bang features of the new radio. It would always happen where a dealer would stand up and ask does the radio still do XYZ? They would get a glassy eyed stare and say no, that is old technology and we did not include it in this model The follow up statement from the dealer would be do you realize that 80% of our customer base still uses this technology, what do we tell them? and the engineer would say They will need to upgrade to the new technology. My take on this was that they spent so much time patting themselves on the back in the lab with their new toys that they never researched what the customer wanted and needed to solve their communication problem. Typical Motorola attitude, they will tell the customer what they need or what they will be getting...They still have not learned this lesson...which is too bad because they do have the ability to make great products and great radios. Brian -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wispcon?
Thanks, Marlon. That does help. Looking forward to reconnecting soon. Linda Linda PondPresidentCustomer Connects"Bridging Technology Relationships"www.customerconnects.com613-253-0240 (w)613-291-2884 (c)BLOG: http://lindaleepond.blogspot.com/ - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 To: Linda Pond ; WISPA General List Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 7:37 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wispcon? Hiya Toots! That last joke you sent me want funny! I'd have beaten the biker dude! LOL Anyhow, which show you should go to really depends on what you want to do. If I had my way I'd go to ALL of them. They ALL have something to offer if you're willing to listen and learn. I just got back from the annual www.ec-expo.com. That's a free show with lots of product specific stuff. There's a GREAT group that goes to this one and lots of help is available. Charles, Matt, I, Damien (Tranzeo), and a few others (forgive me) had a very good very high level chat about a number of things. I picked up quite a few new bits from here and there. AND I ran into David Huges. I hope I am half as with it at 78 as he is! (Yeah yeah, I'm already half as good. Har har grin) WISPCON has always been about nothing but wisps. WCA is more carrier based. ISPCon is a GREAT show. The wireless track is light as there's usually only one track. But there's a lot to running a wisp than just wireless stuff. I think about the best mix would be to go to one or two different ones each year. That help? Marlon(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales(408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services42846865 (icq) And I run my own wisp!64.146.146.12 (net meeting)www.odessaoffice.com/wirelesswww.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Linda Pond To: WISPA General List Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wispcon? Excellent post, Tom. I have been an attendee and a presenter at WISPCON I and II. Once with anOptical Wireless company, Plaintree Systems and once with Marlon's startupof 2002, WNOC. Both were outstanding experiences. I personally got alot of value from the WISPCON shows, especially meeting the people behind the posts on this (and other) lists. Those WISPCON days were more about the relationships. This list has some close roots,and the shows then were about connecting, wirelessly and spiritually, so-to-speak. I met Marlon and Bullet and Steve Stroh (hiya Steve!) for the first time in Chicago, and it was a hoot!Learning and having fun are two things that do it for me, especially if I can do them at the same time. I have been away from the directWISP loop since 2002,running my own kind of Networking business.However, I still enjoy the WISP listconversations, and have stayed in touch. And am glad I did stay in touch, for I have just signed an agreement to work with a company called Arryba Communications - whose mission is to provide high speed Internet to Rural Eastern Ontario (that's me!).Besides being obvious self-interest, Arryba has a very interesting business model, and their timing and leadership are spot on. I would like to attend a spring show, and would beinterested in knowing where the best shows are now, for its time for me to reconnect with the WISP world. Marlon? Steve? Victoria? Where do you guys hang? Linda Linda PondPresidentCustomer Connects"Bridging Technology Relationships"www.customerconnects.com613-253-0240 (w)613-291-2884 (c)BLOG: http://lindaleepond.blogspot.com/ - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi To: WISPA General List Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 8:57 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wispcon? Ido not necessarilly think that the quality of WISPCON has degraded that much. Its more thatthe attendee WISP basehas matured, and looking for new attractions, and new shows have popped up to attract them. Once a WISP has went to WISPCON 3-4 times in a row, they start trying shows that offer something different. WiNog offering, more techncial exchange discussion between experienced operators, which has shown to be extremely valueable to the WISPs that have been there done that. ISPCON, for WISPs looking for more than just wireless technology knowledge. As WISPs mature they start to learn that business strategy is more important, and all operations of the busines such as services, is as important as the wireless technolegy. This is one of the reasons I got involved with ISPCON, and think its the best overall show. Its one of the rea
Re: [WISPA] Wispcon?
Excellent post, Tom. I have been an attendee and a presenter at WISPCON I and II. Once with anOptical Wireless company, Plaintree Systems and once with Marlon's startupof 2002, WNOC. Both were outstanding experiences. I personally got alot of value from the WISPCON shows, especially meeting the people behind the posts on this (and other) lists. Those WISPCON days were more about the relationships. This list has some close roots,and the shows then were about connecting, wirelessly and spiritually, so-to-speak. I met Marlon and Bullet and Steve Stroh (hiya Steve!) for the first time in Chicago, and it was a hoot!Learning and having fun are two things that do it for me, especially if I can do them at the same time. I have been away from the directWISP loop since 2002,running my own kind of Networking business.However, I still enjoy the WISP listconversations, and have stayed in touch. And am glad I did stay in touch, for I have just signed an agreement to work with a company called Arryba Communications - whose mission is to provide high speed Internet to Rural Eastern Ontario (that's me!).Besides being obvious self-interest, Arryba has a very interesting business model, and their timing and leadership are spot on. I would like to attend a spring show, and would beinterested in knowing where the best shows are now, for its time for me to reconnect with the WISP world. Marlon? Steve? Victoria? Where do you guys hang? Linda Linda PondPresidentCustomer Connects"Bridging Technology Relationships"www.customerconnects.com613-253-0240 (w)613-291-2884 (c)BLOG: http://lindaleepond.blogspot.com/ - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi To: WISPA General List Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 8:57 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wispcon? Ido not necessarilly think that the quality of WISPCON has degraded that much. Its more thatthe attendee WISP basehas matured, and looking for new attractions, and new shows have popped up to attract them. Once a WISP has went to WISPCON 3-4 times in a row, they start trying shows that offer something different. WiNog offering, more techncial exchange discussion between experienced operators, which has shown to be extremely valueable to the WISPs that have been there done that. ISPCON, for WISPs looking for more than just wireless technology knowledge. As WISPs mature they start to learn that business strategy is more important, and all operations of the busines such as services, is as important as the wireless technolegy. This is one of the reasons I got involved with ISPCON, and think its the best overall show. Its one of the reasons the show is filled by executives as well as staff from the large ISPs. However, each show has its unique benefits. WISPCON has a tremendous amount to offer a newbie WISP, who has one primary goal, to learn what Wireless is about. I'd argue that WISPCON is probably the best show for a new technican to learn more about wireless. ISPCON has been fantastic for people deciding whether they should get into wireless. WiNog, for advanced WISPs. However, this is a very generalized summary. You can find a little bit about everything from all the shows. My personal opinion is, that if someone had to chose just one show to attend, it would be ISPCON. Because it offers a little about everything, because it has the funding and experience management to be nothing but top professional.Its also has a VERY strong advisory board of experts that help direct its direction.However, that opinion is not meant to take anything away from the other shows. Look carefully at the show agendas, and then pick the one that caters best to the needs you are looking for. If you want an ALL wireless show, thats not whats ISPCON is all about. Wireless is just one tool in the shed. Tom DeReggiRapidDSL Wireless, IncIntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wispcon? wispcons have historically been very good shows. We'll see if Mike can get that back. ispcon should be a pretty good one. wca is mostly carriers and muni these days near as I can tell. that help? marlon - Original Message - From: chris cooper To: 'WISPA General List' Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 4:59 AM Subject: [WISPA] Wispcon? SO what do most folks here do about shows like wispcon? I attended the one in DC last year and it appeared to be sparsely attended both on the wisp and vendor sides. I always thought the shows were a good chance to get together and share ideas
Re: [WISPA] Fw: smartBridges News- American Road Shows
Title: smartBridges American Road Shows Thanks, Marlon. Somebody should tellsmartBridges to put Ottawa, Silicon Valley NORTH, and the hub of anything wireless, on their travel list. Heck, I will even help them coordinate it! Linda Linda PondPresidentCustomer Connects"Bridging Technology Relationships"www.customerconnects.com613-253-0240 (w)613-291-2884 (c) - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 11:31 AM Subject: [WISPA] Fw: smartBridges News- American Road Shows Here's a chance for some training if anyone wants to go. laters, Marlon(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales(408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services42846865 (icq) And I run my own wisp!64.146.146.12 (net meeting)www.odessaoffice.com/wirelesswww.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: simplyFi - a smartBridges Newsletter To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 4:24 AM Subject: smartBridges News- American Road Shows Press Release: smartBridges American Road Shows October 5 - November 9, 2005 Be the first to learn about smartBridges' latest line of products - the Intelligent Nexus and Nexus PRO backhauls, access points and client devices. smartBridges will be conducting an extensive series of trainings and seminars with its North American partners throughout October to November. The road shows will span the entire continent and cover 10 cities in the US and Canada. Get training in deploying high performance Wi-Fi networks for multiple applications such as VoIP, video and security surveillance. Meet our technical experts who will be at hand to answer all your questions and mingle with other wireless networking professionals, system integrators and distributors. Highlights of the shows include: Understanding the broadband wireless market Introduction to the Intelligent Nexus Platform Real-world Customer Success Stories Hands-on product demonstrations including live configuration by participants Dont miss the exclusive promotions offered only to attendees and the chance to personally experience the cutting edge features of the Nexus Platform! American Road shows Itinerary Date Location Partner October 5 Denver, CO Electro-Comm October 6 Des Moines, IA Electro-Comm October 12 Montreal, Canada Binary-Solutions October 13 Toronto, Canada Binary-Solutions October 26 New York City, NY Electro-Comm October 27 Baltimore, MD Electro-Comm November 2 Kansas City, KS Electro-Comm November 3 Dallas, TX Electro-Comm November 8 Chicago, IL WAV November 9 San Diego, CA Electro-Comm Attendance is free and lunch will be provided. Registration is required and there will be a charge of USD 50 for nonattendance. To register, please click here. For more information on
Re: [WISPA] Restoring the Gulf Coast
Dear John, What a magnificent human being you are. I can't even begin to imagine what you went through, and the toll it has taken on your senses. Please don't suffer alone. Find someone to talk to - get it out of your system before it starts to fester. Linda Pond - Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: undisclosed-recipients: Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 7:48 PM Subject: [WISPA] Restoring the Gulf Coast I just got back last night from the gulf affected areas after helping crews establish Internet and phone service for use by evacuees and assistance staff. It looks like a thermo-nuclear device detonated on the gulf coast. Bay of St. Louis (across from Gulf port) is nothing but a landfill with bull-dozed paths through the debris to clear roadways. I cried, everyone cried, it was life altering. On television it is awful but you can go to the other room when you are watching on television. When you are there you cannot get away from it. I thought I was going to have an anxiety attack when I first got to Bay of St. Louis. You cannot smell or feel the sense of what it is like there unless you are actually there. I took pictures but wondered why. It was almost a sick feeling to photograph such devastation. I came home last night and I still feel a little shell shocked. I am not right. I am definitely more right in the head than those who lived through the experience and those who have been there since day one. I don't know how people who are helping can last as long as they are. There are people there who have been helping non-stop for 2 weeks. I cannot imagine it. I spent four days helping and thought I was going to fall apart mentally and physically. I am not as strong as I thought I was. At least I did some good there. I am glad I went even though I will never be completely the same person ever again. Scriv -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Gas Prices
Living in the Ottawa, Canada region, we just hit $1.10 per LITRE. For our friends in the U.S. - there are about 4 litres in one gallon. Linda Linda Pond President Customer Connects Bridging Technology Relationships www.customerconnects.com 613-253-0240 (w) 613-291-2884 (c) - Original Message - From: Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 7:11 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gas Prices We hit 2.60/gal this week. I heard some places are over 3.00/gal. This is insane. Just 3 more years of it, anyone think they can make it at 5/gal? Time for a air powered car. http://www.theaircar.com/ or maybe just a bicycle Jeromie Brian Rohrbacher wrote: Is anyone bumping up their install or monthly fees to offset high gas prices? Gas went up over 60 cents this week. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
