I'm looking for scripts (perl, python, etc) that turn Netstumber (or
equiv) data into the KML files necessary for Google Earth.
So far, I've only found the following googling.
http://code.google.com/p/ns2kml/
Has anyone found any others that work well?
I'm planning PtP and PtMP shots across some water (these are for
redundancy, not the primary links). The longest shot is about 4 mi.
Is there anything I have to worry about (other than a ship messing up my
LOS) with 5.8 GHz going over water?
Does anyone have any contacts in the Seattle area that would be willing
to a spectrum analysis for a big wireless project for about a dozen
locations?
(The following is the only info I have, but I would be willing to
forward on your contact info to the main decision makers, if you'd like.)
In
I see that Netstumber gives a constant -100 for the noise floor (which
I'm assuming is some arbitrary default).
Anyone have any free tools (Windows/Linux/OSX) that gives instantaneous
values?
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Charles Wyble wrote:
I like to use wavemon on Linux for my coverage survey needs.
I've got that installed on my Ubuntu machine, but haven't tested it yet
to see if it gives me instantaneous values.
One of the guys from my LUG (socallinux.org) also recommended it to me.
I will check it out and
Today I talked with a company that is investigating wi-fi infrastructure
that supplements their traffic solutions.
What I found most interesting was that these wi-fi solutions pay for
themselves extremely quickly if they do things like save fuel, increase
ridership, etc.
My question to the
D. Ryan Spott wrote:
Nagios/Cacti together.
A little more work than Solar Winds but so much less money!
Ryan and I talked about that a little bit the other day, actually. The
two go together quite well, actually.
You can have Nagios poll the devices and then create rrd databases that
Cacti
Charles Wyble wrote:
Yes. Cacti is a nice solution, although it had a bit of a learning curve
and setup time.
MRTG was easier and quicker for me.
(cfgmaker and indexmaker and you are done).
Nagios is also nice as well. See something like
http://www.groundworkopensource.com/
Ditto on
Carl Shivers wrote:
Looks like you have to be a Unix guru to install and develop graphs.
In defense of Cacti, it's not a UNIX guru that you have to be (Cacti
installs on Windows), but you have to make sure your web and database
stack are working properly (e.g. Apache / MySQL) to get it
Gino Villarini wrote:
How do you guys compensate NON sales Staff on referrals and sales?
While I don't make compensation decisions, I've seen non-sales staff get
bonuses that around about 30% of their base income.
Case is that we have a very industry connected IT Manager and he has
lately
Charles Wu wrote:
Ultimately, the issue is one of size and uncertainty...say I'm a product
manufacturer for xyz radio infrastructure company, and I have some chunk of
$$$ to put into designing a product for a specific market...from a
bang-for-buck perspective, it's a lot easier to build a
John McDowell wrote:
Anyone heard of them? used them?
I haven't, but I would like to look into them. Doesn't look like
anything you couldn't roll yourself, just a more integrated package:
* Subscriber Registration Billing via Online Credit Card Processing
* Subscriber Authentication
Charles et al,
Below is a 14 MB file detailing some of the steps needed in order to
secure a 3.65 GHz license.
http://www.alvarion.com/upload/images/stepbystep_wp.pdf
(Others may already know this, but this was new for me)
Adam Kennedy wrote:
If you feel like doing a little custom PHP/ASP work, you can have Nagios
spit check results etc into an SQL database. Then just have an app that
pulls the appropriate data when your user browses to their status
page.
On some distros, I believe it's all integrated into one
I have several PtP shots that I'd like to do with 802.11a 5.8 GHz Wi-Fi,
but I would like to make sure that I have the necessary fade margins.
For the longer links in which I want to be safe, I was thinking about
putting two 802.11a PtP links and then connecting the two radios on each
side to
Eric Rogers wrote:
Any ideas? I have recommended software that is a keylogger and
recorder, but they want something that is totally transparent, i.e.
sniffer.
keylogger? not sure where you're going with that.
check out ntop
that, i'm guessing, solves about 90% of your current needs.
Anyone know of a good car version of the Ruckus Metroflex 2225?
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For what it's worth, here are three strategies one might use on the
BelAir BA100/BA200 hardware that helps deal with with the crap broadcast
traffic that might otherwise kill your network.
(1) secure port mode
/interface/wifi-n-1/setssidssid_index secure-port enabled
once enabled, prevents
For what it's worth, some integrators I work with recently told me about
IP3
http://www.ip3.com/
While I haven't used them, it looks like they have some good features
for VBN (visitor based networks). One guy I talked to said that for $3K
he got an incredible turnkey solution that did just
Butch Evans wrote:
I can get you exactly the same thing and for MUCH less than $3k. That
much money must be a really NICE bit of hardware. I set these things up
all the time in hotels for less than $900 TOTAL (I charge them more than
that). I can't image what kind of gear would require
I've got tons of various Bridgewave devices that I will need to connect
to some BelAir BA200s for a large muni rollout, but since this is
outdoors in a harsh environment, I'm guessing I'll need some sort of
hardened outdoor-friendly switch.
I suppose I could look at various NEMA enclosures to
Butch Evans wrote:
About 50% of it is here: http://www.mikrotik.com/ :-)
I'm working with an ISP in Omaha, NE and was looking at their Mikrotik
setup. I'm impressed with what they pack for a low cost.
The other half would depend on specific needs, but a combination of
radius and php gets
://www.moxa.com/product/Managed_Redundant_Switches.htm
Garrettcom Magnum - http://www.garrettcom.com/mp62.htm
to name a few
-Eric
Rogelio wrote:
I've got tons of various Bridgewave devices that I will need to
connect to some BelAir BA200s for a large muni rollout, but since this
is outdoors
Is it just me, or do African wireless opportunities rarely materialize?
I've been involved in tons and tons of big ($10+M, in theory) projects
where all sorts of big numbers are thrown out, but for whatever reason,
someone never ultimately pulls the trigger.
(Not sure what I'm missing, but
Dennis Burgess wrote:
Depends if you are used to doing that. However, I do know they are
investing quite a bit of money in the Nigerian infrustructure. I know
what Routers they are using. lol
Joking aside, there is big money in building telcos in Nigeria.
Some Los Angeles based VCs I
Doug Ratcliffe wrote:
I mean, seriously, in the IT business, would you even believe someone if
they contacted you with a $10 million dollar deal?
They don't always say it like that.
Often they give the areas that they need coverage and the bandwidth that
they'd like for those areas to have
Tom Sharples wrote:
Exactly the same experience here. Lots of talk, long-winded network design,
layout, and bidding process with numerous tweaks and revisions, and
ultimately nothing. Complete waste of time for us, but I don't see what
they get out of it either (?)
My guess is that
I'm planning out a very large wifi rollout for a cable company, and I'm
looking to use L2TP tunnels in order to flatten the entire network so
that there is mobility options with some mission critical stuff that
runs on one SSID.
Anyone else have any advice when doing this? I've got Cisco
Butch Evans wrote:
perhaps I'm missing something, but what does the tunnel have to do with
the single SSID? Maybe that's not what you meant, but I'm stuck with
trying to figure out how they're related. :-(
What is the this that you are looking for advice on?
So, I have about 50 access
Jerry Richardson wrote:
It's easy if your AP's support multiple SSID and VLAN tagging per SSID.
We have 10 VLAN/SSID combinations for various agencies such as Fire,
Sherrif, local PD, nearby city PD, city inspectors, etc. These VLAN's
run over our Canopy network to our headend and show up
Butch Evans wrote:
I understand now. What kind of AP is it?
BelAir BA100s (dual radios) and BA200s (quad radios), some of which are
meshed together. Many of the BA200 units will have ethernet or fiber
egress.
Do the end users do the L2TP tunnel or are you wanting the AP/router
to do
Butch Evans wrote:
I understand now. What kind of AP is it?
BelAir BA100s (dual radios) and BA200s (quad radios), some of which are
meshed together. Many of the BA200 units will have ethernet or fiber
egress.
Do the end users do the L2TP tunnel or are you wanting the AP/router
to do
Butch Evans wrote:
In the deployments I've done with similar designs, most are running
fine, still. There is one instance where the original design needs to
be redone because the parameters I was given were WAY under what they
ended up with. I was given a total number of hosts to be 50
Butch Evans wrote:
In many ways, Mikrotik can do some of the same thing. It's a matter of
proper design in both wireless configuration and firewall (even on the
bridge). Much of this functionality can be configured using various
tunneling technologies in MT as well. Most of the real work
Butch Evans wrote:
What about standards compliance? Are they compatible with 802.11x?
Neither 802.1x or 802.11 compliance is a problem on BelAir gear (not
completely sure which one you meant)
http://www.belairnetworks.com/resources/
I've got access to manuals (that aren't available
I have a situation where police cars will be driving and moving out of a
2.4/4.9 GHz network, and I would like to use something like
Netmotion/Inmotion to seamlessly switch them to the cellular network.
Does anyone have any caching solutions? When a cop car goes from wi-fi
to cellular, they
So, I'm interested in learning more about why 5MHz channels go farther
than 20MHz channels on the public safety 4.9 GHz band.
I have no real numbers or theory, just some anectotal evidence by other
RF guys saying that's been the case in their experience.
Supposedly, RSSI is better at these
I found this URL while googling for more info on Brian Webster's
response to my 4.9 question (on why smaller channels were more efficient).
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk722/tk809/technologies_tech_note09186a00800e90fe.shtml
I was wondering if 9db was the amount of wattage others here found
Up til recently, for channel planning, I've simply been picking the
channels with the lowest RSSI.
This isn't a great method, as beacon channels at high RSSI may have way
less collision than other channels.
What tools do others here use to analyze this sort of thing? (F/OSS ones
are
Jack Unger wrote:
Top computer makers, mobile operators and technology providers announced
on Tuesday that upcoming laptop computers would feature mobile broadband
making them ready to surf right out of the box...
Mobility is huge right now, particularly with people needing to work
remotely
Can anyone recommend to me any good Firetide resellers who I could talk
to about a Hotpoint 6000 and 4000 to create a wireless mesh that gets
2.4/5 GHz access.
I'm looking to get a general idea of price per unit (one of each),
brackets per pole, software controller pricing, etc.
The other day, I was talking to some people about wireless solutions in
cop cars, and they said something about the power being provided to the
wireless equipment in the trunk not being filtered
What does this mean? (Sorry, but I have limited knowledge about
power-related issues)
http://www.airwave.com/airwave-demo/
Just found this online Airwave Demo and am curious if anyone else here
uses or has used it.
I see lots of cool graphs, but is it really enough to help you make
troubleshooting and capacity planning decisions with?
Is there something small that I could take with me that I could adjust
to various frequences and EIRP and point towards something (e.g. a glass
Windows) so that I could take an RSSI reading on the other side?
(I'm tired of lugging a radio around to test very simple things)
Brian Webster wrote:
Also make sure you put fuses in BOTH leads and make sure they are of low
enough amperage that they will easily blow should the normal ground system
become ineffective. There have been cases where the starter found the best
ground through the negative radio lead and drew so
Mike Hammett wrote:
Does anyone have any recommendations for rackmounted PoE injectors? I was
looking at a Panduit PoE injecting 24 port patch panel, but I imagine that'll
cost an arm and a leg. I'm not sure how many I'll need, but I'm guessing
around 30.
Good question. I'm looking for
I'm looking for info on differences between layer 2 and layer 3 mesh
networks. From what I can tell, it's something like the following:
layer 2: manageable via IP address, but you really only control the
PHY/DATA link layer stuff (channels, 802.1Q VLAN tagging, 802.11e, etc)
layer 3: some
How do you import longitude and latitude data into google earth?
(I'm googling on how to do it, but don't see an easy answer)
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I heard a rumor from someone who used to work at Cisco that they will
discontinue their outdoor mesh line, but I have yet to confirm this.
Someone I know who is considering buying quite a bit of their outdoor
mesh stuff asked them if this was the case or not, and they said that
the Cisco rep
Dylan Oliver wrote:
It's really not THAT hard - I read the planet3 book cover to cover in a day
and passed it the next.
Then you just answered the original poster's question -- experience
was his class.
In all seriousness, it looks fairly simple, and if you'd had any
wireless experience, you
I'm looking for wireless wi-fi mesh (preferably multiradio) solutions
that will support multicasting.
I was looking for something along the lines of BelAir, but I'm told that
they have limited multicasting support. Now I have to find out whether
or not other radios I might want to use
Randy Cosby wrote:
Last story is best.
http://lifehacker.com/5070774/best-ways-to-get-online-in-the-boondocks
That's great.
(for those who don't wanna click on the link)
We had customers complaining of bad reception, some because the
contractors would install with line of sight through a
RickG wrote:
Yes, I scan the channels with the NS5 and saw it checking for 64 aka
5320 (for example). So, I changed my AP to 5320. Still nothing.
Perhaps I am too far from the APas I was doign this from home which is
1 mile. I'll try it closer.
1 mile? Have you done a link budget?
What is
Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
I am seeing more problems when the leaves fall off of trees versus when the
leaves are on them. My theory is that the leaves are soaking up the
miltipath of the signals and when they fall off they are getting through a
lot more and causing havoc on the AP. I have seemed
Can anyone recommend a wireless mesh vendor (and associated brackets and
antennas) that would undergo extreme weather conditions?
A really good friend from university works in a hurricane research group
and is looking wireless communication devices that they can put on top
of these 30m ad hoc
When you have a noise floor of -30 dBm to -50dBm on a 2.4/5.8 11a/b GHz
Wi-Fi band, is there anything configuration related that you can do to
alleviate the problem other than switch channels, use narrower beam
antennas, etc.
(I've got a situation where I have to make chicken salad out of
Mike Hammett wrote:
To quote Ron White...
It's not THAT the wind blows, it's WHAT the wind blows. It doesn't
matter how many push ups you did that morning if the wind throws a Volvo
at you.
That's actually a good point.
So, if you're going to protect gear in a hurricane, it becomes
Leon Zetekoff wrote:
Is is just one channel or the entire band(s). What if you use 5 or 10
mhz channels?
That's what I'm going to go for. I was just hoping for something else
to do in the interim, like tweaking RTS/CTS values or something.
My apologies if this is not the best place to do this, but a very cool
associate and former coworker of mine lives in Richmond, Virginia and is
looking for work.
He's a CCIE, is with wireless technologies (wi-fi, 3G, GSM, 4.9/5.9,
WiMax), and has great account handling skills, particularly on
A friend in my Linux user group is in charge of setting up the IT in a
building that's about about a mile or so away, and he wants to bridge
them via wireless rather than pay a monthly dedicated circuit between
them. The number of end users there will be about 50 or so.
He asked me what I
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3-dB Networks
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Rogelio
Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 2:16 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] affordable solution for bridging two buildings
A friend in my Linux
Josh Luthman wrote:
If all else fails you can use a pair of BelAir links and use
RouterOS/OSPF to concatinate them :)
For long links, someone people I know claim to do something similar with
RSTP: put two panels up (one on each polarization) and then plug both
radios on each side into a layer
Do you have any suggestions for budget friendly set top boxes?
e.g.
TV - set top box - wireless CPE -- wireless stuff outside
(mpeg-2 is most likely what they're looking for, not mpeg-4, as it's in
South America and they're looking for something very low cost)
Any suggestions would be
I'm hoping someone on this list might recommend me some power
management options for cell sites.
Ideally, I would like something that does the following:
--auto-reboots a device when an IP address does not ping
--is ruggedized for outdoor environments (or is easy to stuff in a NEMA 4X box)
Within the last few weeks, I have gotten several inquiries about setting
up 802.11 wireless access services for thousands (1000-5000) of people
in a conference sort of area (assuming 100% subscription rate, which I
think is sort of unreasonable, but that's another story), and I have
told them
I have heard very polarized reviews of Xirrus in handling high density
networks well or being total garbage.
(Online reviews are awesome, people I know with a lot of 802.11
experience tell me they're garbage, but I'm not sure if it's garbage all
around, or just garbage for what they wanted to
What is the 802.11 equivalent of, say, a SmartBit?
When I had to test throughputs of firewalls, I'd just hook that up and
blast a tons of traffic through them.
With 802.11, what is the equivalent? That is, say I want to test # of
MAC addresses that can associate, # of users who can
For a campus wireless network (~30K people), I'm researching the
possibly of creating a seamless roaming solution using using Redback to
be the endpoint for approximately 500-1000 L2TP tunnels using BCP
(bridge control protocol) encapsulation
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2661.txt (L2TPv2, not
I've got a situation where I have a lot of POE access points that need
Hyperlink injectors because the devices draw more power than regular
802.3af compliant devices.
e.g. this doodad
Hyperlink PS4820-POE (48...@20w)
http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=20900
I don't want to buy a ton of these
Does anyone have any Cacti templates for Bridgewave's product line that
they could share?
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Has anyone used this line of hardened outdoor switches?
http://www.ifs.com/products.asp
specifically, this one
http://www.ifs.com/products_details.asp?item=88
I've got a camera security application that needs an outdoor switch.
Several cameras will need to be plugged into a switch, along with
Anyone have a recommendation for a shark fin style 4.9 GHz PCMCIA
Ubiquiti card?
(I need some that will work on the north slope of Alaska in the oil fields)
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Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
OK, this may sound stupid, but how are the oil fields public safety?
marlon
They've got some emergency preparedness meshes that they're building up
there. I don't know all the details, just some of the action items that
are on my to do list.
Ideally, I'd like to find
David E. Smith wrote:
Blair Davis wrote:
On a Cacti bandwidth usage graph, what does the 95th percentile mean?
If the original poster could link to the Cacti template that's being
used (if they got it off the web), then maybe we can help.
Otherwise, I'm guessing that it means that you don't
I'm curious if anyone else here uses CA Cert (www.cacert.org)
Several of us in the wireless space started using it for strong
encryption for the following reasons:
--it's free
--it's easy (just import the private cert in your web browser, client
(Thunderbird, Outlook, etc), ftp client, etc.
Mike Hammett wrote:
I've started to get setup with it.
If anyone from the group is in the Southern OC, CA area, I'd be willing
to assure them, if they are interested.
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Not really related to WISPs here in the US, but still interesting to
those who are following 4G and post 4G wireless technologies
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/03/090308121655.htm
***
I'm looking to bring wireless access into several hotel environments and
am hoping to leverage the existing phone lines for transport, rather
than having to run new ethernet lines.
I have heard of others using ADSL equipment, particularly Zhone, to do
so. They say that they just cross connect
I have a quad radio node that is 110V AC only, and I'm getting together
what's needed in order to power it on a solar panel.
Obviously, I'll need an inverter to take from 110V to 48V DC.
Does anyone have any suggestions for batteries? Someone suggested some
high capacity 6V ones (like they
I'm looking into setting up wi-fi for rural county (using stimulus
dollars) and am now looking for CPE devices to put on each rooftop.
A past coworker told me that he's heard good things about Tranzeo, and I
was wondering what others here on the list thought about them as a vendor.
Thanks, Steve. Your advice is helpful.
(I actually already have all of the other vendor pieces. I am now just
looking for CPE devices to put on the roofs of the houses that subscribe.)
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A friend is considering getting his tower certification, and it's
something I've been considering also.
I googled tower certification, but couldn't find the cert(s) that one
would need to get to safely/legally do so.
Any pointers?
Are there 802.11n CPE devices? (I haven't seen any)
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tonyl...@demarctech.com wrote:
Rogelio
We will have one ready very soon, are you looking for 2.4Ghz or 5Ghz?
Very cool.
Most likely 5 GHz 802.11a.
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Mike Hammett wrote:
A or N? :-p
I'd like 11n (both 2.4/5), but if I had to pick one or the other, 11a is
probably what we'll go with.
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I've just recently started becoming familiar with the various microwave
e band PtP solutions (Bridgewave, Dragonwave, Gigabeam, Loea, Trango,
Proxim, etc). Before this, I knew nothing about things like rain fade or
the various characteristics of bands in that range.
Does anyone know of any
I found this URL on the economics of backhaul while surfing for
microwave resources.
http://www.exaltcom.com/landing.aspx?id=422
Nothing earth shattering, but a good read for those getting their feet
wet (like me)
Charles Wu wrote:
What specifically are you looking for? The only difference from
micro/milli-meter wave (e.g., 10+ GHz) and standard unlicensed wireless is
rain fade
Do you want an explanation on that?
Thanks, Charles. I'm fairly up-to-speed on that. Once I knew a little
bit about it,
Charles Wu wrote:
Attached is an article that gives Licensed Backhaul 101 Overview that was
written several years ago in Broadband Wireless Magazine -- obviously,
pricing for licensed links have fallen dramatically...but the concepts are
still the same
Thanks, this is helpful also.
I like
Travis Johnson wrote:
Ya... I'm not sure an X86 based system is going to handle 10 GigE x
4 you are probably looking at Cisco, etc. where the switching can
happen in dedicated hardware rather than software.
I'd take a serious look at Juniper.
e.g.
Gino Villarini wrote:
Someone should be using this example in a way to push wireless as a
2nd option for bup and redundancy
If I remember right, they had redundant fiber there already. I also
remember something about the person doing it knowing that and cutting
both sides of the ring.
On a somewhat related note, does anyone here use open source packet
shaping solutions?
I've only used Packeteer in production (enterprise environment), but I'm
always on the lookout for good other solutions.
Right now, I'm using BSD-based pfSense at home, and that seems to be
working great.
Jon Auer wrote:
http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog
Also join Cisco-NSP if you are interested in Cisco gear:
http://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
And the Outages list occasionally informative:
https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages
Ditto on both lists.
Gino Villarini wrote:p
Easy, the current Wimax MAC (802.16d and e) was designed for licensed
frequencies, noise is not well handled by the protocol
I'll have to admit believing some of the WiMAX hype until I heard this
fact several months ago.
The only people I see taking WiMAX seriously are
Has anyone here implemented the 5.9 GHz band for ITS (Intelligent
Transportation Services)?
I'm looking at some projects that might be a good fit and have recently
started researching vendors that do it, as well as some of the
regulatory characteristics of the band.
Using a dual 5.8 GHz radio solution, could I conceivably give myself
some sort of redundancy by doing the following:
--two 23 dBi panels, one on each radio
--on panel for horizontal orientation; the other, for vertical
--put a switch on both sides that supports spanning tree
I have LOS between
A coworker is looking at this solution to possibly be a billing system
at a fair
http://www.allcity-wireless.com/
Has anyone played with it? Or can they recommend something with these
types of features?
Simple Plug Play Network Deployment
Built in network services: RADIUS, DNS, DHCP,
Have any of you guys used those wall plates that are both a switch and
an access point?
I heard that Colubrius (now HP) makes a good line, although I haven't
used them. I've seen the 3comm ones, but haven't implemented them yet.
A resort I'm working with would like to cut down on walkie talkies and
use wifi instead.
Does anyone have any recommendations? I've seen Vocera, but I think
that's a bit more than what they need.
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I've got a situation where I need some lower end affordable 2.4 GHz
repeaters, and the itch can't really be scratched with a customer CPE
device (such as a Ruckus or Tranzeo).
Anyone have any 2.4 GHz repeaters that they can recommend? There won't
be many people connecting in that area, so I'm
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