Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle

2009-02-10 Thread Travis Johnson
If it makes you feel better, today we only got 8mpg while pulling our sno-cat (with a Duramax even) at 80mph down the freeway. ;) Travis Microserv Mark Nash wrote: LOL I was just thinking about revitalizing this thread as I was speeding across our valley here because one of our techs

Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link

2009-02-10 Thread Travis Johnson
Isn't that the purpose of a public forum? :) Travis Microserv Jeff Ehman wrote: All, When comparing exactly apples to apples, there is about a 10-20% premium for a Dragonwave product. There are plenty of threads on this topic. I would be happy to grab a bunch for you so hit me off

Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle

2009-02-10 Thread Travis Johnson
Freeway speed limits in Idaho are 75mph. We usually drive 80mph. The Duramax will easily go that fast, even with 2,000 pounds in the bed and 9,800 pounds of sno-cat in tow. :) Travis Microserv RickG wrote: I believe the 8mpg but 80mph? -RickG On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Travis

Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link

2009-02-10 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, I have a better idea someone compile a simple side-by-side comparison of the Dragonwave vs. Trango 18ghz radios. List all the benefits of each radio, and then also list the current price for a "comparable" speed for each. I'm not familiar with the current Dragonwave product, so I

Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle

2009-02-10 Thread Travis Johnson
] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 11:17 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle I believe the 8mpg but 80mph? -RickG On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: If it makes you feel better, today we only got 8mpg while pulling

Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link

2009-02-11 Thread Travis Johnson
HUH? Someone at Trango held a gun to your head and made you purchase their gear? I don't get this message at all? Travis Microserv Josh Luthman wrote: So when you build a Trango backhaul network you hope they don't ruin you like they did for us trying to do use 700 dollar CPEs. I have

Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link

2009-02-12 Thread Travis Johnson
Another item that I would like to bring up... the US economy is in sad shape right now. So, if you are looking to buy a licensed radio set, are you better to send your money to Canada, or keep it here in the US? For all practical and "reasonable" items, DW and Trango both have a great ptp

[WISPA] 3.65 Hpol sector antenna

2009-02-12 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, Looking for a horizontally polarized 3.65ghz sector antenna. Something between 60 and 120 degrees. We have the Pac Wireless one installed now, but the performance seems to be lacking (maybe because it's only rated up to 3.60ghz?). We are off almost 10db from the path calcs. Any other

Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link

2009-02-12 Thread Travis Johnson
] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 3:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link On Feb 12, 2009, at 3:55 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: And, CTI has published their exact pricing for the Trango. Why is nobody else putting out the DW price? I

Re: [WISPA] It can mean everything

2009-02-15 Thread Travis Johnson
John, What you did for the community and the individuals in that area is very cool. Something you should be proud of for the rest of your life. However, let's play the other side of this Broadband Stimulus package. What if, because of all this "free" money, two new competitors come to this

Re: [WISPA] make sure you are filtering AS48438 right now

2009-02-16 Thread Travis Johnson
There is ALWAYS another choice _affordable_ choice is another question. :) We are backhauling an OC3 from Idaho Falls, Idaho to Seattle, WA right now... I'm sure that's farther than you are from Seattle... ;) Travis Microserv Marlon K. Schafer wrote: roflol Oh the arrogance of the

Re: [WISPA] Another online backup thread

2009-02-17 Thread Travis Johnson
Circuit City had many, many problems (at least at the store here). Lots and lots of "managers" walking around, while their pricing on computer hardware was really, really high. Even during their clearance last week, I went in and found an HP laptop they had marked down for the clearance

Re: [WISPA] radio mobile

2009-03-03 Thread Travis Johnson
Just for what it's worth, I have donated several hundred dollars to the Radio Mobile author over the past few years. Everyone else that uses it should donate as well... Travis Microserv Brian Webster wrote: Marlon, Roger Coude the software author (a personal friend of mine) is not a

Re: [WISPA] 100 meg full duplex backhaul

2009-03-03 Thread Travis Johnson
Licensed 18ghz links with 5.8ghz backup links for each hop. Figure $15,000 per link for everything. Travis Microserv Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Hi All, I'm looking for some gear that'll be rock solid at 15 to 20 miles. Some links may be less, but I'm not counting on that. I'll be hauling

Re: [WISPA] 100 meg full duplex backhaul

2009-03-04 Thread Travis Johnson
think we need the unlicensed for each hop if the entire network is build in a circle? marlon - Original Message - From: "Travis Johnson" t...@ida.net To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100 meg

Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed

2009-03-04 Thread Travis Johnson
The most cost effective solution is going to be licensed. At $11,000 for a complete link, that's probably the cheapest thing you are going to find for this kind of bandwidth. Travis Microserv Ryan Ghering wrote: I'm in need run a link 100 meg full duplex at 1 mile. Unlicensed gear is

Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed

2009-03-04 Thread Travis Johnson
going to be more expensive than the Dragonwave hop. Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:47 PM

Re: [WISPA] 3.65 ptp

2009-03-06 Thread Travis Johnson
The FCC ULS requires that you enter the FCC ID of the radio that is being used, along with it's characteristics. That is easily done with an XR3 card. No where during the registration process does it say the radio and antenna and everything else has to be certified as a "system". I can

Re: [WISPA] schools

2009-03-10 Thread Travis Johnson
Too bad this isn't really helping much. I am heading to a Public Hearing right now for our school district. Even with the stimulus money, they are still talking about getting rid of 20-30 teachers and counselors next school year. And the year after that there may be that many more. That's a

Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ?

2009-03-18 Thread Travis Johnson
We have a sector feeding 3 other towers that has been rock solid for 59 days now. Using a 10mhz channel, delivering 11Mbps at 18 miles. Travis Microserv Matt Liotta wrote: Yes, but the UBNT 3.65 radios are crap. Everyone we tried was worthless. On the other hand, every Redline 3.65

Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ?

2009-03-20 Thread Travis Johnson
. -Matt On Mar 18, 2009, at 6:33 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: We have a sector feeding 3 other towers that has been rock solid for 59 days now. Using a 10mhz channel, delivering 11Mbps at 18 miles. Travis Microserv Matt Liotta wrote: Yes, but the UBNT 3.65 radios are crap

Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ?

2009-03-20 Thread Travis Johnson
Because I can service where NONE of those other services exist... and I have for 10+ years. Residential users don't need more than 1-2Mbps. Our 512k package is FASTER than the 3Mbps CableOne service in our area (as tested by ZD Lab's benchmark program). Travis Microserv Mike Hammett wrote:

Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ?

2009-03-20 Thread Travis Johnson
I have a quote from Level3 for $12.50 per meg and it's 10x the bandwidth that Cogent is... ;) Travis Microserv George Rogato wrote: Kinda high If you are lucky and you have access to fiber consider this Cogent, if you buy a GigE port and commit to 200 megs, you can have it for

Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ?

2009-03-20 Thread Travis Johnson
nge, and I have no problem pay 12.00 for good bandwidth, I'm paying more now under my current contract. Guess what I would like to know is where to find the ratings of who is the best, I used to hear Sprint was quality, but that was just a few opinions. Travis Johnson wrote: I ha

Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ?

2009-03-21 Thread Travis Johnson
Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Travis Johnson Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 2:45 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ? Because I can service where NONE of those other services exist... and I have for 10+ years. Residential users don't need more

Re: [WISPA] Cost of bandwidth

2009-03-21 Thread Travis Johnson
Because it's 200+ miles away and crosses state lines. It would be at least 10 hops. Tower space is roughly $250/month around here so that's $2,500 per month just for the towers... then you have maintenance, equipment cost ($100k) and it would only save me about $1,000 per month. Travis

Re: [WISPA] Cost of bandwidth

2009-03-22 Thread Travis Johnson
uild your own fiber. It has a life cycle of up to 30 plus years so you should be able to stretch out the loan over many years. I am looking at this myself. I think that it makes sense on long runs like this to consider fiber. Pricing has come down considerably. Just my 2 cents worth. Scriv On Sat,

Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ?

2009-03-22 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, We have BridgeMaxx in our area. They are using 2.5ghz licensed with Alvarion WiMax equipment. This is the "top of the line", $50k per sector type stuff. Then I can also tell you that we are seeing a LOT of antennas that have to be mounted outdoors, on a tripod with a 10ft pole to get over

Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ?

2009-03-22 Thread Travis Johnson
. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender by reply transmission and delete this electronic mail. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 7:44 PM To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ?

2009-03-22 Thread Travis Johnson
them a lesson. Tell us how you did please. That would tell a far more compelling story than just trashing their model on the list. Scriv On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: Plus the cost of the 2.5ghz license in our area... which I heard they paid like $

Re: [WISPA] Colocation

2009-03-23 Thread Travis Johnson
We charge $75/month per 1u of rack space. Unlimited bandwidth, unlimited speed. Travis Microserv Mark McElvy wrote: I guess I should have finished with how do you price such a thing. I would like to offer a customer rackspace at my office. Two 2U servers with UPS provided by customer and

Re: [WISPA] Colocation

2009-03-23 Thread Travis Johnson
the sender by reply transmission and delete this electronic mail. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 5:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Colocation We charge $75/month per

Re: [WISPA] Fat Circuit to test Against?

2009-03-26 Thread Travis Johnson
Who is your connection through? That could make a huge difference on what kind of speeds you will actually get doing a single speed test. Travis Microserv Gino Villarini wrote: Hey List Anyone with a mikrotik connected to the nternet with some 200 mpbs to do a BW test against? I want

Re: [WISPA] Fat Circuit to test Against?

2009-03-26 Thread Travis Johnson
] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 3:19 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fat Circuit to test Against? Who is your connection through? That could make a huge difference on what kind of speeds you will actually get doing a single speed test. Travis Microserv

Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem

2009-04-03 Thread Travis Johnson
Gino, Looks to me like you are running a little hot. You want the MSE to be -32 or better I would try turning the power down on each side 1db at a time until you get the best MSE (on the remote side) while still having the best signal. We had to turn one of our links down to +12 to get

Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem

2009-04-05 Thread Travis Johnson
Brad, We put 3 Apex units up about 4 months ago. They are basically the same as the Giga, with only a few minor differences. The only frustrating part for us was having to run two CAT5 cables (one for transport, one for management). We had to do that because we don't use VLANs, and that's the

Re: [WISPA] Atom board form Router

2009-04-08 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, Says it's a standard Micro-ATX board. However, that price is really expensive for just a systemboard. You still need RAM, CPU and a DOM to boot up MT (or whatever OS) plus a case. You are getting real close to the price of an RB1000 and I'm not sure what benefit you would have? Travis

Re: [WISPA] whats your longest uptime?

2009-04-09 Thread Travis Johnson
We had a Trango 5830AP that had an uptime of over 578 days just a few days ago... but then we rebooted it. :( Travis Microserv David E. Smith wrote: Travis Johnson wrote: Tower mounted AP = 500+ days. Customer prem switch = 5+ years. Tower router = 321 days Sadly

Re: [WISPA] 10 GigE

2009-04-09 Thread Travis Johnson
Ya... I'm not sure an X86 based system is going to handle 10 GigE x 4 you are probably looking at Cisco, etc. where the switching can happen in dedicated hardware rather than software. Travis Microserv George Rogato wrote: Question that comes to mind, What size processor or machine

Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed

2009-04-10 Thread Travis Johnson
I agree... I would probably purchase a few of the PTP600 radio sets if they were priced more in-line with current offerings of the licensed products. :) Travis Microserv Tom DeReggi wrote: Which is why Moto/Ortho needs to look at lowering their price of PTP600, and making it back on

Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed - change of topic -- customers / AP

2009-04-10 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, I think that's maybe a little high... we have a Canopy AP right now with 100 users on it... about 10% business and 90% residential and it's probably bringing in about $3,500 / month. We will probably load it up to about 120 users total, at which point it will be around $4,000 / month.

Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Fiber cut in SF area

2009-04-11 Thread Travis Johnson
I would imagine trying to do any kind of wireless, even licensed, could be very difficult in the LA / SF / SJ areas Travis Gino Villarini wrote: Someone should be using this example in a way to push wireless as a 2nd option for bup and redundancy Gino Sent from my Motorola

Re: [WISPA] Off Topic // Looking for Vehicle Advertising Ideas

2009-04-11 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, Just take your company logo down to your local sign shop and tell them you want to put vinyl lettering on your vehicles. They can take digital pictures of the vehicle, then place the logo and whatever writing (website, phone, etc) on the vehicle and you can look at it, make changes, and

Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed - change oftopic -- customers / AP

2009-04-12 Thread Travis Johnson
ss-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 12:11 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed - change of topic -- customers / AP Hi, I think that's maybe a little high... we have a

Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed - changeoftopic -- customers / AP

2009-04-12 Thread Travis Johnson
Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On Apr 12, 2009, at 9:55 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: Tom, I think you are missing a BIG key that many ISP's (starting clear back in the dial-up days) have missed. The best mix, use of resources, and profitability comes from having high ARPU

Re: [WISPA] Question about BGP + Mikrotik

2009-04-18 Thread Travis Johnson
Make sure your MT router has at least 512MB of RAM (1GB preferred) and tell your upstreams to start sending full routes. That's it. Travis Microserv Gino Villarini wrote: List Im running 3.15 on our Core Router to our upstream, I have 3 circuits running BGP to the same provider. Im only

Re: [WISPA] Clearwire being sued for poor service, ETFs

2009-04-23 Thread Travis Johnson
Yup and the next one (not as big as Clearwire) is BridgeMaxx, also called Digital Bridge Communications. They blew through investor money like it was falling from the sky... spending almost $1,000,000 just on the infrastructure equipment (backhauls, AP's, routers, etc.) to cover a city of

Re: [WISPA] Clearwire being sued for poor service, ETFs

2009-04-23 Thread Travis Johnson
at 5:11 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: Yup and the next one (not as big as Clearwire) is BridgeMaxx, also called Digital Bridge Communications. They blew through investor money like it was falling from the sky... spending almost $1,000,000 just on the infrastructure equipment

Re: [WISPA] Clearwire being sued for poor service, ETFs

2009-04-23 Thread Travis Johnson
$100, it should be, how many of those 50,000 will their network and market competition allow them to serve? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson To: sc...@brevardwireless.com ; WISPA General

Re: [WISPA] Nifty Outdoor Switch..

2009-04-26 Thread Travis Johnson
Looks cool... except it won't work with Canopy devices because they aren't standard PoE... unless I missed something? Travis Microserv Gino Villarini wrote: Found this nice outdoor switch, multi power POE capable Nice for small pops anyone used it?

Re: [WISPA] Nifty Outdoor Switch..

2009-04-27 Thread Travis Johnson
And all this for only $19.95 if you call now Gino Villarini wrote: AC or DC option would be great, just add a rj45 port to inject GPS sync from a 3rd party device for Canopy POE sync Ohh nad make it modular, so you can add 6 dual port at a time , up to 24 POE devices Gino A.

Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded? SOLVED

2009-05-01 Thread Travis Johnson
We run Nstreme on all of our backhauls (over 60 of them) without a problem. I can easily move 30Mbps across RB532 boards using 20mhz channel size. Travis Microserv Kurt Fankhauser wrote: 3.15 - No wireless test Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405

Re: [WISPA] What do you charge for a wireless router setup?

2009-05-05 Thread Travis Johnson
We provide a wireless router for free as part of the install. We started doing that over 5 years ago. We also setup all their computers (either cable or wireless) for free (except the cost of the wireless USB adapters). That's what makes us different than the cableco or telco. :) Travis

Re: [WISPA] One connection bandwidth=x / 2 commections bandwidth=2x why?

2009-05-11 Thread Travis Johnson
Saw peaks up to 680KB/sec using Firefox. Travis Microserv Scott Carullo wrote: Yes lots of them, from different internet connections as well. Focusing on customers from BHN connecting to our TW Telecom fiber circuit. Have not been able to do enough testing outside our network though

Re: [WISPA] Quesiton on Funding / Financing / Capital Availability

2009-05-22 Thread Travis Johnson
We are still leasing, but also #3 applies as well... but we are putting the cash flow money into other things... like real estate, that is dirt cheap right now... ;) Travis Microserv Charles Wu wrote: Lease, lease, lease. Agreed that leasing is a great option, but in

Re: [WISPA] Quesiton on Funding / Financing / Capital Availability

2009-05-22 Thread Travis Johnson
The banks can sell a car with little effort. They already have relationships with dealers and auctions. And often, if the consumer's credit is questionable, the dealer will guarantee to take the car back if the loan defaults. Who is going to buy a $10,000 radio that has been repo'd? Even for

Re: [WISPA] Quesiton on Funding / Financing / Capital Availability

2009-05-23 Thread Travis Johnson
, the opposite of a car, non-liquidatable, does the lender really benefit by leasing it instead of lending for it? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson To: WISPA General List Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 6

Re: [WISPA] Quesiton on Funding / Financing / Capital Availability

2009-05-23 Thread Travis Johnson
sh flow positive. Granted, my WISP is a lot smaller than many that post here and our growth rate is small, but some of that is managing growth to stay cash-flow positive. I have seen several companies die because they became cash rich, but still could not cover the debt. Travis Johnson wrote

Re: [WISPA] Quesiton on Funding / Financing / Capital Availability

2009-05-25 Thread Travis Johnson
o stay cash-flow positive. I have seen several companies die because they became cash rich, but still could not cover the debt. Travis Johnson wrote: The banks can sell a car with little effort. They already have relationships with dealers and auctions. And often, if the c

Re: [WISPA] Quesiton on Funding / Financing / Capital Availability

2009-05-25 Thread Travis Johnson
Huh? We incorporated in 1997 and I think total cost was less than $500. How do you ever expect to get away from having to do personal guarantees if you don't operate like a "real" business? Travis Microserv Marlon K. Schafer wrote: One more thing. I don't agree with your definitions per

Re: [WISPA] Quesiton on Funding / Financing / Capital Availability

2009-05-26 Thread Travis Johnson
Because one of the questions on any financial application is "how long have you been incorporated?". If you wait until you decide you may need to be, then yes they are going to want personal guarantees when the answer to the question is "1 year" instead of "5 years". And I didn't say becoming

Re: [WISPA] Court: No exclusive cable rights in apartments

2009-05-26 Thread Travis Johnson
Wow this just opened up every single MTU in the nation as a potential customer for everyone on this list... and the building is already cabled with coax... just need to find some cheap head-end units to feed internet over the coax. :) Travis Microserv Scottie Arnett wrote:

Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Wimax

2009-05-31 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, We have two small 3.65 repeaters (serving only other small WiPOPs). The 3.65 does work, but our experience was that it did not do any better in NLOS than 2.4ghz would already do (when comparing the same type of radio systems). There are several other radio features and tricks that the

Re: [WISPA] OT: Printers

2009-06-01 Thread Travis Johnson
I can tell you right now that the HP5M/N was not $300 nine years ago... probably closer to $2,000 brand new. Travis Microserv jp wrote: That's close to my home volume for laser. I've had an hp5m/n laser for 9 years at home. It was probably $300 when I bought it. I put toner in it about

Re: [WISPA] equipment cooling?

2009-06-01 Thread Travis Johnson
I would think all of that equipment could sit in a closet in a normal office environment and be just fine (even the PC based firewall). You are really generating very little heat with only 3-4 devices. Travis Microserv RickG wrote: I finally have new fiber on order and getting rid of the T1's

Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Wimax

2009-06-01 Thread Travis Johnson
available. Travis Microserv RickG wrote: What kind of throughout are you getting on 3.65? -RickG On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 1:33 AM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: Hi, We have two small 3.65 repeaters (serving only other small WiPOPs). The 3.65 does work, but our experience was that it did

Re: [WISPA] Quesiton on Funding / Financing / Capital Availability

2009-06-02 Thread Travis Johnson
suit these days too. marlon - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson To: WISPA General List Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quesiton on Funding / Financing / Capital Availability Huh? We incorporated in 1997 and I think total cost was less

Re: [WISPA] Quesiton on Funding / Financing / Capital Availability

2009-06-04 Thread Travis Johnson
Yup... us too but now it's "I had to fold my online Poker hand because my connection went down... I lost $1,000." Travis Microserv Charles Wu wrote: Yep, me too. Right out of the starting gates over 10 years ago, straight with S-Corp. Too much stupid s**t too be sued over by

Re: [WISPA] OT: Cisco 7200 Gigabit Ethernet Cards?

2009-06-04 Thread Travis Johnson
I have about 80 Cisco 2900 and 3500 switches servicing our fiber ring. Most of them are 5+ years old and were purchased used on ebay for $400, and some are older. Some of these have "uptimes" of over 4 years right now. :) Cisco hardware just works. It's expensive, and the software can be

Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Wimax

2009-06-05 Thread Travis Johnson
eless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 1:33 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Wimax Hi, We have two small 3.65 repeaters (serving only other small WiPOPs). The 3.65 does work, but our experience was t

Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help

2009-06-12 Thread Travis Johnson
Replace the radio and see what it does. That's the easiest way to see what the problem is. Travis Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Hi All, Got a strange one here. I have a 5830 AP with 4 customers on it. 3 have no complaints, 1 gets 300 to 400k downloads and 1000 to 3000 uploads. All links

Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation

2009-06-15 Thread Travis Johnson
Is this just on a single AP you are seeing this problem? We have seen blown radio cards display a 20db difference on just one side of the link. Replacing the card has always fixed the problem. Travis Microserv Michael Baird wrote: Gino, 145', 15 degree VB, 7.7/7.8 puts my -3d at ~5

Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation

2009-06-15 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, I have to agree with Gino here... even at 7 degree downtilt, you are cutting it very close. You may want to try 5 degrees on just one sector and see if that helps. Travis Michael Baird wrote: Gino, wisp-router.com, would the downtilt affect the AP RSSI level? Antenna Height ft

Re: [WISPA] Opinions on LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23

2009-07-08 Thread Travis Johnson
That would be using two R52 cards on each side (so 80mhz of channel total). Using MT, the most I have seen using 40mhz channel size is 60Mbps. Travis Microserv Josh Luthman wrote: FWIW someone in the "School needs 100mbps" thread mentioned they use 433 and R52 to get 80-90 megs using

Re: [WISPA] Opinions on LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23

2009-07-08 Thread Travis Johnson
st be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: That would be using two R52 cards on each side (so 80mhz of channel total). Using MT, the most I have seen using 40mhz channel size is 60Mbps. Travis Microserv Josh Luthman

Re: [WISPA] 3.65ghz antennas

2009-07-08 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, I have about 10 of the ARC wireless 3.65ghz 18db panels installed. All of them are within the path calcs (and the last point to point link was actually 6db better than the path calc). What are the specs of the radio card, distance, etc.? Travis Microserv rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote:

Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 333 vs 433

2009-07-08 Thread Travis Johnson
The 333 boards are crap. We installed about 15 of them before we realized all the problems (overheating, flaky ethernet, etc.). We have over 1,000 of the RB411's installed and they work great. Travis Microserv Blair Davis wrote: anybody got any real world experience of the performance

Re: [WISPA] 3.65ghz antennas

2009-07-08 Thread Travis Johnson
, but if memory serves it is about 5 or 6 db, and I've been to both ends and aimed, reaimed, etc. All the stuff, including piggy's are new... insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: "Travis Johnson" t...@ida.net To: "WIS

Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 333 vs 433

2009-07-08 Thread Travis Johnson
If I call, the RB600 boots in about 6 seconds from the time the power is applied to the time you get the beeps. We had a link that one of the boards was bad, and was rebooting 4 or 5 times a day, but we never noticed it because it would reboot so fast... Travis Microserv Josh Luthman wrote:

Re: [WISPA] URGENT need contact for Mikrotik Parts near southwest Ohio

2009-07-12 Thread Travis Johnson
Josh, You may want to consider having "spares" of this equipment on hand for future problems. We keep enough spares to replace an entire tower (licensed backhaul, AP's, UPS, rebooters, etc.) in our tower truck, and we still have enough extra stuff at the office for more repairs if needed.

Re: [WISPA] URGENT need contact for Mikrotik Parts near southwest Ohio

2009-07-12 Thread Travis Johnson
I understand, and I've been there before... however, now when we buy anything (new router, core switch, backhaul, etc.) we always buy a "spare" as part of the purchase price. If we can't afford the spare, we don't buy the original part. Travis Microserv Josh Luthman wrote: In a perfect

Re: [WISPA] Re-evaluating our anti-spam solution

2009-07-13 Thread Travis Johnson
The difference with Postini compared to an in-house box is Postini stops the incoming SPAM before it uses any bandwidth on our backbone. Last time I checked (over a year ago), it was saving us 3-4Mbps of traffic (24x7). I would guess now it's closer to 7-10Mbps of incoming SPAM flow that never

Re: [WISPA] Question re: WISP for sale

2009-07-17 Thread Travis Johnson
3x gross annual was a very nice number... but not realistic any longer. 1.5x is the last number I heard for an actual sale that went through. Travis Josh Luthman wrote: One way I have heard it done: Take the annual gross revenue, times it by 3 (three years gross revenue) and that's the

Re: [WISPA] Dual Nstreme using XR3

2009-07-17 Thread Travis Johnson
There is only room for a single 20mhz channel using 3.65ghz. About 30Mbps is the max you are going to get. Travis Microserv my_em...@webjogger.net wrote: I was wondering if anyone has setup a Mikrotik Dual Nstreme link using the Ubiquiti XR3 (3.65GHz) cards? I have a PTP link setup

Re: [WISPA] Dual Nstreme using XR3

2009-07-17 Thread Travis Johnson
channel versus 2 10 MHz channels, TDD x FDD. My guess: TDD wil work better for short distances due to ACK timing, FDD for larger distance will perform better, but this is strongly traffic pattern dependent. Rubens On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 7:24 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote

Re: [WISPA] Dual Nstreme using XR3

2009-07-18 Thread Travis Johnson
will perform better, but this is strongly traffic pattern dependent. Rubens On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 7:24 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: There is only room for a single 20mhz channel using 3.65ghz. About 30Mbps is the max you are going to get. Travis Microserv my_em...@webjogger.net

Re: [WISPA] Dual Nstreme using XR3

2009-07-18 Thread Travis Johnson
Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 12:03 AM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: 6ft and 2ft RickG wrote: Travis, what type of antennas do you have on this link? -RickG On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:06 PM, Travis Johnsont...@ida.net t...@ida.net wrote: I have a 73 mile

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Bullet5-HP

2009-07-22 Thread Travis Johnson
Let us know how it goes... we have about 80 MT ptp links and love them (from 1/4 mile to 73 miles). We have never had a problem with ACK timing, small or large packet issues, etc. I would like to know throughput using only a 20mhz channel, too. Travis Microserv Robert West wrote: Has anyone

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Bullet5-HP

2009-07-25 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, I received a couple of test Bullet5-M radios on Friday. I played with them for about 15 minutes today, and here's the first bench test: 20mhz channel -60 signal 55Mbps of actual UDP throughput Very impressive. They are getting almost double what every other 802.11 based radio system is

Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance

2009-07-28 Thread Travis Johnson
But can't you still buy two RB1000's for the same price as the PowerRouter? Travis Microserv Josh Luthman wrote: Well coming from the rb1000 I would suggest Butch/PoweRouter's x86 box. 7 gigabit Intel NICs, each on their own PCIe bus, room for a CF card and I believe an ATA port. The

Re: [WISPA] Canopy Distance

2009-07-30 Thread Travis Johnson
30 miles is the maximum setting in any Canopy AP... they won't connect past 30 miles (assuming enough signal, etc.). Travis Jason Wallace wrote: Any chance it could do 30 to 40 miles from ap to cpe with that setup? Jason Gino Villarini wrote: Charles Actually now it's FCC

Re: [WISPA] 5.8 Distance

2009-07-31 Thread Travis Johnson
We have 29 mile ptmp links that will deliver 6Mbps x 3Mbps without a problem. Travis Microserv Marlon K. Schafer wrote: 17dB 120* sector? That's way too high of a gain. The vertical on that can't be much more than what, 4 or 5*? When the noise is low I can pull 2+ megs at 18

Re: [WISPA] Are customers increasingly clueless? Or is it gettingbetter?

2009-07-31 Thread Travis Johnson
Technically, yes, this was your fault. The customer is paying YOU for service... not qwest. If you can't provide the service (regardless of the reason), then it's your fault. In our regional area, the ABC affiliate stopped selling to DISH Network last year over the contract price. So if you

Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik

2009-08-03 Thread Travis Johnson
It does no good to run shielded cable if you aren't using shielded RJ-45 ends as well. ;) Travis Microserv Josh Luthman wrote: You lost me - drain wire? Soldered onto a plastic rj45? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When

Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik

2009-08-03 Thread Travis Johnson
Yes, but in most shielded cable we get, the drain wire is just a bare, silver wire inside the cover like that one. If you aren't grounding that, you aren't really doing anything but wasting money on cable... :( Travis Josh Luthman wrote: *Face plant* Never heard of those before... I'm

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Bullet 5M

2009-08-06 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, Unless they are doing something in hardware, they will NOT be able to duplicate Canopy polling in software. It just can't be done. Mikrotik has tried (and come very close), but there is only so much you can do in software. Travis Microserv Michael Baird wrote: Yes, they are being

Re: [WISPA] Badly need 2 Bullet5M's

2009-08-08 Thread Travis Johnson
You badly need two radios that aren't even on the market yet? What would you have done 30 days ago? Travis Microserv os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: I badly need two Bullet5M's. If anyone has two to sell or knows who has them to ship Monday please hit me off list. Thanks! Greg

Re: [WISPA] Badly need 2 Bullet5M's

2009-08-08 Thread Travis Johnson
: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 11:50 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Badly need 2 Bullet5M's I would have still badly needed them. : - ) Greg On Aug 8, 2009, at 11:15 AM, Travis Johnson

Re: [WISPA] Bullet M5 HP

2009-08-18 Thread Travis Johnson
So it's not even going to work as well as a Mikrotik system with "Disable CSMA" turned on... Travis Microserv Gino Villarini wrote: bit more info on the airmax protocol fro ubiquiti: Yes AirMax is the TDMA/Polling aspect of the software/hardware. This can be shut off. The backoff rules

Re: [WISPA] Bullet M5 HP

2009-08-18 Thread Travis Johnson
I'm going to call BS here... (1) You don't really have a "noisy" environment if you are able to run a basic Powerstation AP with 100 subs and have it work at all. We are on towers on hilltops that have over 120 antennas (dishes, sectors, omnis) within a 500ft radius from our tower. (2) You

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