Re: [WISPA] Baicells - who's deployed it?

2016-06-27 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Specifics?

ryan

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> On Jun 24, 2016, at 09:35, Judd Dare <judd.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Azure is far from reliable.
> 
>> On Jun 19, 2016 11:03 AM, "Adair Winter" <ada...@amarillowireless.net> wrote:
>> No, just authentication. Or at least that's the way it should be.
>> They are hosting in azure and are supposed to have some good redundancy .
>> 
>>> On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 12:01 PM, <mike.l...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> So if their hosted core takes a sh*t, all your users are down?
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 19, 2016, at 09:57, Adair Winter <ada...@amarillowireless.net> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> probably possible but since it makes some sort of ipsec connection to 
>>>> their hosted core, it would be more difficult.
>>>> 
>>>> The other way around works great though.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 11:53 AM, Matt Hoppes 
>>>>> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>>>>> Since LTE is a standard  I wonder if you could hook a Telrad eNB to 
>>>>> the baicells EPC??
>>>>> 
>>>>> *gear spinning*
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jun 19, 2016, at 12:20, Adair Winter <ada...@amarillowireless.net> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Baicells is going to have cheaper hardware but there will be some trade 
>>>>>> offs to other vendors.
>>>>>> for example, no 4x4, do dual carrier, etc.
>>>>>> Also you'll pay per user per month to use their core unless you already 
>>>>>> have one. so look at the long term when pricing.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Josh Luthman 
>>>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Baicells referred me to a distributor for pricing.  I asked last week.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jun 19, 2016 12:18 PM, "Matt Hoppes" 
>>>>>>>> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I've said too much. I haven't said enough. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Ask Patrick for more details on pricing. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Jun 19, 2016, at 11:59, CBB - Jay Fuller 
>>>>>>>>> <par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> He said "real" good ;)
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>>>>>> From: Matt Hoppes
>>>>>>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 7:18 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Baicells - who's deployed it?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> As opposed to bad? :P. 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 18, 2016, at 08:03, Josh Luthman 
>>>>>>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> "Good"?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 18, 2016 8:02 AM, "Matt Hoppes" 
>>>>>>>>>>> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> True. It's good though. Real good. 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 18, 2016, at 02:24, Chris Ruschmann <ch...@scsalaska.net> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>

Re: [WISPA] Small NEMA Enclosures

2014-04-30 Thread D. Ryan Spott
This works great for the side of a house: $32.50
http://www.lowes.com/pd_126702-74985-57095_0__?productId=1128857

Details here:
http://www.orbitonline.com/products/sprinkler-systems/accessories/timer-accessories/timer-box/weather-resistant-sprinkler-timer-cabinet

I put an extension cord into the GFCI outlet and then plug that into the 
wall: $7.00
http://www.lowes.com/pd_242043-66906-UT880608_0+2zc58__?productId=3190805

The box locks and it looks like a sprinkler timer.

ryan

On 4/30/14, 12:06 PM, Sam wrote:
 What do you guy use for small NEMA waterproof enclosures? These would be
 the size to hold three UBNT PoE and a small (four-port) switch and
 corresponding AC adapter, and an electrical block with four receptacles
 for plugging in the aforementioned items.

 Thanks,
 Sam
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Re: [WISPA] OT Email Receipt

2014-04-02 Thread D. Ryan Spott

Make your emails html based and place a graphic in them with a GUID

When the end user opens the mail and wants to view the contents they 
will download the graphic from your server.


People can still opt out of downloading the graphic but if it is a 
critical part of the mail then they really have no choice.


ryan


On 4/2/14 7:04 AM, wi...@mncomm.com wrote:
My owners asked this. Is there a way or a protocol that will allow you 
to be notified that an email recipient received or viewed your email, 
even if they refuse to acknowledge notification receipt? I don't think 
there is but they seem to think they read something a while back

thanks
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Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth/Performance Test

2014-03-20 Thread D. Ryan Spott
I liked the speedtests that are based off of fancy speedtest but I did 
not like the fact that I could not see historical speedtest data. I 
edited it to collect data on any customer running the speedtest.


I have a few customers that will call and freak out over slow speedtests 
until I looked and saw they were running the test over and over and over 
again with good results and then they would get a bad one, stop testing, 
and call me! After I told them I had a record of all of the tests 
suddenly the monthly race to get a bad test (and ask for a credit!) 
would stop!


http://www.irongoat.net/tranzeofaq/speedtest2.zip

This test shows your customer the last 5 speedtests and allows you, the 
admin to see ALL of the speedtests performed.


You will need to muck around a bit to setup the mysql username/passwords.

ryan

On 3/15/14 4:49 PM, David Williamson wrote:


Yeah, I'd like that script, too.

David

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Care to share to script?

On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 8:25 AM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net 
mailto:the...@wmwisp.net wrote:


There is a very basic one on my web site that sounds like what you
describe...

www.wmwisp.net/speedtest/speedtest.php 
http://www.wmwisp.net/speedtest/speedtest.php


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On 3/6/2014 9:30 AM, Sam wrote:
 Good Morning Folks!

 Years ago, I remember installing a bandwidth tester on one of the Linux
 boxes I had running at the WISP my wife and I owned. For the life of me
 I cannot remember the name of it.

 Do any of you have one you like enough to recommend? Basically I'd like
 for it to sit in the base of a tower so the users consuming bandwidth
 from that tower can measure their speed without touching my upstream
 provider - they can measure how fast and at what capacity my equipment
 is providing them with service from this server at the base of the tower
 to their equipment at their home or business.

 Hopefully this makes sense

 Thanks,
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Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?

2014-02-10 Thread D. Ryan Spott

I would be happy to drive out there to give you a hand Arthur.

ryan


On 2/10/14 9:19 AM, Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181) wrote:

I'm with Forrest here.
Back in the back ol' days of everyone running amps (we had to back 
then in many cases) some vendors loved to sell more power.  More power 
means faster service at longer ranges right?
WRONG.  Carrier to interference level is where your speed and distance 
comes from.
The high power systems, as Forrest says, cause the radios to produce 
much more *detectable* power outside their main band.  That power 
outside the main band causes the interference.
It was always a struggle, but when I used to do interference I 
convinced many WISPs that LOWER powers would actually improve the 
performance of their networks.  It was nearly 100% true.  In the rare 
cases when lower power levels didn't work it was because people were 
trying to use higher powers to over-ride physics and go through trees, 
buildings etc.
One very important note here.  If you do try lower power levels you'll 
have to lower ALL of the devices back down to reasonable levels (RSSI 
should be between --65 and --75 for most modern radios to perform 
their best, --55 will work but see the above notes about self 
inflicted interference).
A quick check is to shut down all of your AP's in an area and see what 
the noise goes to.
Oh yeah, very few radios really report accurate interference 
information.  If you are checking those levels via anything other than 
a real spectrum analyzer you'll likely find out that there are also 
other things happening in your area.

Call if you'd like and we can talk this out a bit more.
509.988.0260
laters,
marlon
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*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 
frequencies?


I'm going to agree with others...

Running outside legal limits doesn't look good to the FCC, and it 
sounds like you are definitely running outside the limits since you 
are whining about the ability to run your radios in a mode which seems 
to have no use than to exceed the limits.


I will also add that if you're running all your radios hotter than 
they should be that your nose floor problem is most likely self 
inflicted.   My experience over the years is that radios are designed 
to run at a specific tx power and if you're exceeding it you get a lot 
of out of channel bleed over.  Even if the radios don't do this you 
are introducing far more rf than is likely needed causing an overall 
rising of the noise floor.


Please don't interpret everyone's ire incorrectly.   We've just all 
either dealt with an operator like you are now or have been an 
operator like you are now.  And right now we're trying to gain 
credibility with the FCC which is hard to do when some operators are 
flagrantly breaking the rules.  Which makes us a bit grumpy.


I'm sure some of your neighbors out there would love to help you 
better understand what you are doing to yourself and help you improve 
your operations which will in turn improve your quality of service.   
Heck, I'd drive over there for a weekend if my schedule wasn't so packed.


In any case please ask for help in appropriate spots and let us help 
you reap the rewards of a correctly and legally operating network.


On Feb 8, 2014 4:49 PM, Art Stephens asteph...@ptera.com 
mailto:asteph...@ptera.com wrote:


Recent events make me wonder if the FCC is trying to muscle wisps
out of these frequencies.
Since we are primarily Ubiquiti equipment I can only speak from
that platform.
First the latest firmware update removes compliance test which for
about 40% of our equipment deployed would render them unusable
since 5735 - 5840 runs at - 50dBm or higher noise levels in our area,
Second is new product released only supports 5735 - 5840.
Seems like DFS is such a pain that manufacturers do not want to
mess with it.
Case in point the new NanoBeam M series only support 5725-5850 for
USA.
Worldwide version which we are not allowed to buy or deploy
supports 5170-5875.
Seems the only alternative is to go with licensed P2MP which makes
more money for the FCC and drives the cost of wireless internet up
for both wisps and consumers.
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Re: [WISPA] WAN Optimization products for Medical Imaging / Radiology ?

2014-01-24 Thread D. Ryan Spott

Take a look at Riverbed steelhead and their software/appliances.

They are very open to loaning you equipment for weeks on end for 
testing. The setup is so simple it is not even funny.


http://www.riverbed.com/products-solutions/products/wan-optimization-steelhead/

ryan

On 1/24/14 2:46 PM, Brad Belton wrote:


We're very familiar with PACS.  Not sure what if anything you need to 
do unless the network is congested.  Typically the remote user will 
either have a pptp or ipsec tunnel back to the server/network.  The 
bandwidth the remote user has available to them (at home, hotel etc.) 
will obviously vary depending on what they are using.  The images will 
simply move faster with higher bandwidth connections and slower with 
lower bandwidth connections.


Brad

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*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] WAN Optimization products for Medical Imaging / 
Radiology ?


Looking for a way for remote Radiology Dr can use low BW Internet 
connections (5-10 Mbps) for remote PACS reading,


Gino A. Villarini

g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com

Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

787.273.4143

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Radiology ?


Gino,

Can you be more specific?  I came from a regional hospital chain, and 
they did everything from their downtown Data Center, and all hospitals 
had gig connectivity.  Even the bar-code readers had serial to 
Ethernet extenders, so even the serial scanners were IP to the servers.


Eric Rogers

Precision Data Solutions, LLC

(317) 831-3000 x200

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Anyone has any experiece with products for this application?



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Re: [WISPA] remote employees

2014-01-23 Thread D. Ryan Spott
+1 to this. I was party to a case where the employer was giving out 
stock options for overtime submitted during on-call time and other 
time.  Labor law goes for triple damages. [(amount not paid + interest + 
fines) * 3]


The lawyer summed up FLSA and overtime like this:

You can pay 1 chicken per hour if you wish. No US dollars needed. As 
long as your employee and you agree on this exchange.


If your employee works ANY overtime then you must pay normal overtime 
wages (1.5X normal pay). You MUST use US DOLLARS! If you were paying in 
chickens then the US Dollar equivalent would be a standard cost of a 
chicken in USD * 1.5.


ryan

 On 1/23/14 8:30 AM, Hass, Douglas A. wrote:


On-call programs are one of the three most common areas (after 
independent contractor/employee misclassifications and salary/overtime 
issues) that tech companies, including WISPs, get tripped up on 
regularly.  It is possible, but certainly not guaranteed, that you can 
pay someone a lower on call rate or some flat rate for being on 
call. */_Remember that it does not matter AT ALL if you and your 
employee/contractor have agreed on how to handle 
pay/on-call/overtime_/*.  If your pay plan violates state and federal 
law, you are still liable (BOTH personally AND as a business---no 
hiding behind the corporate veil here) and state and federal agencies 
can still audit and fine you, even if your employee doesn't care!


Speaking generally, under the federal Fair Labor Standards Act, they 
key issue in determining whether an employee is working while on 
call is whether the employee is engaged to wait or waiting to be 
engaged. Generally speaking, if an employee is required to somewhere 
specific during certain hours and is not free to leave, then even if 
the employee spends the time sleeping or reading a magazine the time 
is considered work time. (There is an exception to this rule for 
employees with shifts of at least 24 hours - in that case, an employer 
can, by agreement with the employee, deduct no more than 8 hours for 
sleeping time.)


On the other hand, if an employee merely has to be available to 
respond to a call by cell phone, or to report to a worksite within a 
/reasonable/ period of time, but is otherwise _legitimately_ free to 
go about his or her personal activities, then the time will not be 
considered work time. Of course, any time spent actually responding to 
calls that do come in would be considered work time and would have to 
be compensated as such.


Exactly where this line is drawn can be fuzzy. For example, if an 
employee is expected to report to work within 15 minutes of receiving 
an emergency call, that short response time may severely limit the 
employee's ability to go about his or her personal activities, and may 
result in the on-call time being considered work time. Exactly how 
long the response time would need to be, however, will depend upon 
various factors such as location and commuting distances.


Please make sure that you've had someone review your on-call program, 
along with any contractor relationships or salary pay plans you 
have.  If you don't have a written legal opinion, please get one.  
Even small errors here can add up quickly and result in massive 
liability for your WISP.


Doug


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Re: [WISPA] remote employees

2014-01-22 Thread D. Ryan Spott

It is more a management issue than a remote employee issue.

Get some sort of IM system that shows availability. (Skype, AIM etc) 
This allows everyone to know where everyone is all the time. If it 
supports video and screen sharing then even better.


Be flexible on hours and focus on him more like a salaried employee. 
Have him work within your daily core hours but allow for late arrival or 
taking time off in the middle of the day to do something for his kid or 
working late or whatever as long as things average out to around 40 
hours a week... They will normally average around 45-50 if you are generous.


Arrange for quarterly or half yearly trips back to the farm so everyone 
can see everyone else get beers etc.


If you do this well and your employee gets used to working from home 
with all of the freedoms it give him then you will not have to give this 
guy a raise for a long time as other jobs will not be able to compete.


ryan


On 1/22/14 5:27 PM, heith petersen wrote:
I have a tech who does real light field work, who mostly works at a 
desk in my office. He usually handles the customer BS, like phone tech 
support above what we let our held desk handle, as well as radio 
configuration and updates and support to my field techs. Due to recent 
personal issues he is moving 4 hours away. We figure, since he doesn't 
have a job yet and can get good high speed service, we might try to do 
a gig with us remotely. I would tunnel him into the net, access to 
billing, and a VoIP phone to our system, basically use him just like I 
do now, just no physical presence.
Anyone else doing this or have past experience with this? If so, was 
it positive or total nightmare? We are trying to figure out how to 
base compensation. Right now he is hourly, I can see time tracking 
could be a pain. In reality he could just sit there and play solitaire 
all day if I don't have any calls for him or any network upgrades.
Anyways I appreciate your thoughts. I lean on him pretty hard to take 
care of BS that I shouldn't have to deal with. Without him I see some 
pretty long days ahead. And I cant afford to keep a field tech in the 
office, though I have a guy that would rather sit on ass and talk to 
customers as opposed to doing field work.

thanks
heith


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[WISPA] HAM colo costs

2014-01-13 Thread D. Ryan Spott
For those of you that own towers or just know... What do HAM operators 
usually get charged for colocation?



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Re: [WISPA] Ethernet over power lines (not the failed power company BPL trials)

2013-12-29 Thread D. Ryan Spott
In trailer parks and RV parks we use them to move bandwidth out to the 
far edges of the park.  This helps us get past the big metal signal 
blocking RVs.


They DO NOT work past or through a transformer.

ryan

 On 12/28/13 6:49 AM, ralph wrote:


I am writing this because I just read an old thread from around 
9/20/13 on AFMUG in which BPL was being discussed.


I'm no longer on that list due to the amount of traffic, but I'd like 
to discuss it more here.


A. The failed power company BPL trials were a unique technology.  
However the frequencies used were not compatible with both Amateur 
Radio and with International broadcasters. They were shut down due to 
much lobbying from both groups as well as several technical and 
economic challenges.   It also still required WiFi of some type to get 
the signal from the pole/transformer to the end user. Good riddance to 
them and their noisy interference!


B. But the technology that has proven to be useful is more localized: 
Home Power Line Networking. Check out https://www.homeplug.org/home/


There is a lot of potential for us in these devices.

They originally began as Home Plug which carried data at up to at 14 
Mbps back in 2001.


They have a newer, more robust standard called Homeplug AV and 
supposedly is good for 200 Mbps. We have tested them for a year and 
have been (or plan to be) experimenting with several applications:


1. We do a lot of Marinas. We already have our WiFi APs plugged in to 
AC at each dock. We will use HPAV to deliver hardwired connectivity 
to those who don't want to use WiFi.


2. We do Muni WiFi. Since we are already on the poles and have access 
to the power company secondary, we may plug in a unit along with our 
other devices in the box on the pole.  This will allow us to deliver 
hardwire connectivity to at least half the houses on that 
transformer.  So in a lot of cases it will be useful.


3. We do MDUs. Same rationale as #2, but equipment closets instead of 
poles.


Yes we know all about the transformer issue. It will eliminate some 
potential users, but we are on a lot of poles and in a lot of closets. 
In some cases we can access both legs of the single phase line anyway.


We can send the customer to many places both local and online to get 
their home unit.


Here is the only rub:

All the units I have tried require the two units to be married You 
can have many units on a network but their security requires the 
users to press a button to synch the with the master one. This is 
actually setting an AES security key And you have to press a button on 
the master each time you add a remote. I am calling them master and 
remote here, but the units are identical. I'm using the term to 
differentiate between the home unit and the one on the pole. Someone 
did tell me of a set they tried that just worked


In most of my applications, the AES security does not matter- remember 
the core system is an open WiFi network anyway.  I would rather users 
be able to use a simple, easy to obtain unit. With the newer paired 
units having that preset, it may knock out some flexibility. These may 
be what the person referenced above may have had.


What I really want to see a manufacturer come out with is a manageable 
unit we can put as the base.  Similar to  a WiFi AP, we could do 
authorizing (similar to MAC authentication or like DOCSIS cable modems 
are remotely activated with the CMTS) of remote devices on the same 
line.  Customer plugs in, calls up, gives address of  his unit and we 
authorize it. If they don't pay, they get shut off.


Of course we could stock and ship units that were preset with our AES 
code, but it would be a nightmare keeping all that straight as well as 
an investment in equipment we wouldn't want to make.


As I said, there is lots of potential in Home Plug AV  right now, and 
even more if the equipment becomes a little more flexible.  I'm just 
putting the ideas out there.


Anyone else using them or planning to use them in novel ways.



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Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators

2013-11-26 Thread D. Ryan Spott
*Someone* lives in Florida and does not need a Snowcat or Snowmachine to 
get to his sites...


Sometimes paying a little extra for always on and always working is a 
good thing. The maintenance on the TEG I have running is:

light
let run for 1-5 years
clean jets
relight
repeat.

No moving parts and always working is a bonus. :)

ryan

On 11/26/13 9:25 AM, Scott Carullo wrote:

Remember, I can buy 4 7Kw gensets instead of the one tiny TEG :)

Scott Carullo
Technical Operations
855-FLSPEED x102




*From*: D. Ryan Spott rsp...@irongoat.net
*Sent*: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 12:15 AM
*To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
*Subject*: Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators

Who was this from?

Remember there is ZERO maintenance on a TEG.

ryan

On 11/25/13 9:04 PM, Mike Lyon wrote:
 So i heard back on pricing today for the 100 watt propane TEG. $7960
 plus a $300 mount.


 It's a cool idea but a Generac 7kw propane genset for $1900 with free
 Amazon Prime shipping seems to be a better deal...

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Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators

2013-11-26 Thread D. Ryan Spott

On 11/26/13 10:37 AM, Mike Lyon wrote:

Which TEG do you have?
I have 2 active and 2 in the shop Telan 50 series. They are no longer 
made but if you find them used snag them! :)



Global is pretty much the only game in town unless you to with an RTG... 
but they are really only in the tundra of AK:

http://ota-cdn.fas.org/reports/9423.pdf
or somewhere way past Pluto:
http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/spacecraft/instruments_rtg.html

:)

ryan




On Nov 26, 2013, at 10:26, D. Ryan Spott rsp...@irongoat.net 
mailto:rsp...@irongoat.net wrote:


*Someone* lives in Florida and does not need a Snowcat or Snowmachine 
to get to his sites...


Sometimes paying a little extra for always on and always working is a 
good thing. The maintenance on the TEG I have running is:

light
let run for 1-5 years
clean jets
relight
repeat.

No moving parts and always working is a bonus. :)

ryan

On 11/26/13 9:25 AM, Scott Carullo wrote:

Remember, I can buy 4 7Kw gensets instead of the one tiny TEG :)

Scott Carullo
Technical Operations
855-FLSPEED x102




*From*: D. Ryan Spott rsp...@irongoat.net
*Sent*: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 12:15 AM
*To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
*Subject*: Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators

Who was this from?

Remember there is ZERO maintenance on a TEG.

ryan

On 11/25/13 9:04 PM, Mike Lyon wrote:
 So i heard back on pricing today for the 100 watt propane TEG. $7960
 plus a $300 mount.


 It's a cool idea but a Generac 7kw propane genset for $1900 with free
 Amazon Prime shipping seems to be a better deal...

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Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators

2013-11-26 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Even north of fairbanks Propane does not have much of an issue. Insulate 
and enclose for success.


I use a 1500 gal tank so I can get the 1000+ gal discount. They even 
apply this discount to my home propane purchases for the rest of the year!


ryan

On 11/26/13 12:48 PM, Terry Hickey wrote:
In my case, the propane was in various sized tanks from 100 gal Pig 
tanks to 1000 gal tanks depending on access. The most remote ones we 
used 100 gal pigs (14 per site ) and used helicopters to fly the 
propane. Made for more trips but the cost of the helicopter to fly big 
tanks was horrendous.
Tanks were out in the weather but the lines and regulators were either 
in the shack with the TEGS or covered and insulated. Average winter 
temp without wind was about --10 F dipping to about --45 F. Not sure 
what the wind chill was.
The people that bought the system augmented it with solar and wind 
(varying success with the wind as they could not keep impellers in the 
generators). It has been a couple of years so I am not sure of their 
present configuration or success.

*From:* Mike Hammett mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net
*Sent:* Tuesday, November 26, 2013 1:33 PM
*To:* WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators
No, it's in tanks that are the size of a medium sized car...  outside.



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*From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
*To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
*Sent: *Tuesday, November 26, 2013 2:27:26 PM
*Subject: *Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators

Is the propane in a heated environment?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Mike Hammett 
wispawirel...@ics-il.net mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:


I guess all of those homes that use propane to heat their homes
with its 20 below zero don't exist.



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*From: *Christopher Erickson christopher.k.erick...@gmail.com
mailto:christopher.k.erick...@gmail.com

*To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
mailto:wireless@wispa.org
*Sent: *Tuesday, November 26, 2013 12:20:24 PM

*Subject: *Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators

Yes, it DOES matter how cold it is.

Propane won't create gas pressure below -43.6F and many propane
gas pressure
regulators will ice up and stop working below about +20F.

This isn't a problem for many locations but it is still important
to know
what the limits are.

Christopher Erickson
Consulting Engineer
Summit Kinetics
Waikoloa, HI 96738
www.summitkinetics.com http://www.summitkinetics.com



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mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Terry Hickey
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 8:06 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators

I had 5120 TEGS powering 7 mountaintop sites for about 8 years
before I sold

the system. As long as there is propane, they work. No moving
parts, very
little maintenance. It doesn't matter how cold or hot it is, they
just work
. Simple power that provides heat for the radio shack as well.

Terry

-Original Message-
From: D. Ryan Spott
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 10:15 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators

Who was this from?

Remember there is ZERO maintenance on a TEG.

ryan

On 11/25/13 9:04 PM, Mike Lyon wrote:
 So i heard back on pricing today for the 100 watt propane TEG. $7960
 plus a $300 mount.


 It's a cool idea but a Generac 7kw propane genset for $1900 with
free
 Amazon Prime shipping seems to be a better deal...

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Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators

2013-11-25 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Who was this from?

Remember there is ZERO maintenance on a TEG.

ryan

On 11/25/13 9:04 PM, Mike Lyon wrote:
 So i heard back on pricing today for the 100 watt propane TEG. $7960
 plus a $300 mount.


 It's a cool idea but a Generac 7kw propane genset for $1900 with free
 Amazon Prime shipping seems to be a better deal...

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Re: [WISPA] question for the group

2013-09-19 Thread D. Ryan Spott
I have never seen this enforced in my limited experience. Most 
manufacturers have classes you can attend to become a 'professional'.




ryan


On 9/19/13 7:53 PM, Chris Stradtman wrote:

Hi all,

Most of my work is done inside so I don't really deal with most of the 
WISP issues.


However I'm being asked by a client to do an outside install.  This is 
likely to be in the 5Ghz range.


I've found a reference to

Devices must be professionally installed when operating in the 5470 
-- 5725 MHz band



I'm aware of avoidance of TDWR systems and the allowed and disallowed 
frequencies in that band.


However, I can't find reference to what is meant by a Professional 
Installer.


Is there a licensing program that I can't seem to find by googling??

Thanks in advance,

Chris Stradtman


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Re: [WISPA] DISH Network Dropping Us

2012-12-27 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Would it be possible for WISPA to become a master reseller ala NRTC?

ryan

On 12/27/2012 1:07 PM, Paul Diem wrote:
 We signed up as a DISH Network reseller back in 2010 when they were
 approaching WISP's. We've averaged around 3+ new DISH installs per
 month. Last month we received notice that we have not met their minimum
 requirements and our reseller account will be terminated on 12/31.

 Our install volume is not huge because we mainly sell to our new and
 existing and customers We have used their co-op marketing program as
 well. Our old account manager would tell us our sales were great. Our
 new account manager has been nothing but a pain. I can't imagine they
 have much expense by maintaining us as a reseller.

 I know other WISP's became DISH resellers around that time. Has anyone
 else been dropped as a reseller by DISH?
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Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Contractor Needed

2012-12-13 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Try this: http://cabletv.org/mailman/listinfo/cabletv-list
or this: cabl.com

ryan


On 12/13/2012 12:41 PM, Jay DeBoer wrote:
 We are looking for a contractor to handle 3 Cable TV system in Southern
 Indiana.  Responsibilities would range from Installs to line work to
 Head-Ends.

 If Interested please Contact:

 Patty Coleman
 GM of Operations
 Summit Digital

 pcole...@summitdigital.us
 231-908-0032


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Re: [WISPA] tranzeo management

2012-10-13 Thread D. Ryan Spott
You mean upload from the radio?

yeah, you can use curl to do this.

Take a look at tranzeofaq.com the autoconfig.txt file: 
http://tranzeofaq.com/autoconfig.txt

You could shape things like this:
http://username:password@192.168.1.100/set_config.cgi?net.router.qos.enabled=Yesnet.router.qos.uplink_speed=4096admin.cmd=storeadmin.cmd=reboot

Let me know if I can help in some other way.

ryan

On 10/13/2012 12:55 PM, Jay DeBoer wrote:
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Re: [WISPA] What is everybody using for alarms?

2011-09-25 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Nagios does this quite well. 

ryan



On Sep 24, 2011, at 4:35 AM, Paolo Di Francesco paolo.difrance...@level7.it 
wrote:

 Hi Ed
 
 I was looking also for something that sends one report email in case 
 of failure when multiple nodes are down. If 50 nodes are down and part 
 of the network is cut out, I will receive 50 emails. I would prefer one 
 email that summarize what went down and what when up, i.e. the state 
 change when occurs.
 
 anybody has found something with this approach?
 
 Thank you
 
 Have been using the Dude as my production monitor for over 3 years,
 works great. Monitoring DS3 and wireless backhauls, Metro-E, wireless
 and DSL subs. Also Routers, switches and server services.
 
 Ed Spoon
 Manager of Internet Services
 triparish.net http://triparish.net / cajun.net http://cajun.net
 Member: FISPA / WISPA
 Ph: 985-879-3219 / Fax: 985-876-6789
 Computer Sales  Services, Inc.
 
 
 
 
 On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Paolo Di Francesco
 paolo.difrance...@level7.it mailto:paolo.difrance...@level7.it wrote:
 
hum.. I don't know... I tested the dude a couple of years ago and it had
the bad habit to reset the configuration, but maybe it was the
unstability of the version
 
Do you have it in production without any issue?
 
Thank you
 
 Dude. It e-mails, creates sounds, and even tells you where the
problem is!
 
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[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
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 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] What is everybody using for alarms?
 
 We use PRTG, The latest one.
 
 We watch the web client for down devices, And the important stuff
alerts
 us via email and text message.
 
 Nick Olsen
 Network Operations
 
 (855) FLSPEED x106
 
 

 
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 *Sent*: Monday, September 19, 2011 10:46 AM
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 *Subject*: [WISPA] What is everybody using for alarms?
 
 Hi all
 
 I am curious to know what kind of alarm system you have
implemented to
 see when a link/router is no more reachable on the net.
 
 Nagios or similar?
 
 any hint would be appreciated :)
 
 thank you
 
 
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ANYONE know of ANY in stock?

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Re: [WISPA] Redboot help

2011-02-04 Thread D. Ryan Spott
The NS2s can be odd.. You have to pretty much keep booting them while
running the open-mesh-flash.exe app from a windoze machine.

I sometimes have to reboot the NS2 3 or 4 times to get it happy.

ryan


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Anyone here successfully modified redboot configuration? On a nanostation2?
Turns out they don't have telnet on by default. I executed

fconfig -w -d /dev/mtd6 -n bootp_my_ip -x 192.168.1.1

and now I get

Config verification failed

anytime I try to perform an operation on the red boot configuration.

Help!

I've got all 4 of my nanostations flashed with OpenWRT. Now I want to flash
them with the ROBIN mesh firmware. Or does anyone know how to get a mesh
operational on stock OpenWRT? I've tried for a few days and can't get it
working. ROBIN mesh seems like the way to go.

And of course I can't flash firmware from the OpenWRT web interface cause it
only accepts the .trx files.

Can anyone help?

Thanks!

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Re: [WISPA] Redboot help

2011-02-04 Thread D. Ryan Spott
It should not matter. IIRC when the device boots it is pre-insert firmware
here.

ryan

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You did this from stock ubnt firmware? Or post openwrt flash? Or...



On 02/04/2011 02:09 PM, D. Ryan Spott wrote:
 The NS2s can be odd.. You have to pretty much keep booting them while 
 running the open-mesh-flash.exe app from a windoze machine.
 
 I sometimes have to reboot the NS2 3 or 4 times to get it happy.
 
 ryan
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
 On Behalf Of Charles N Wyble
 Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 2:02 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Redboot help
 
 Anyone here successfully modified redboot configuration? On a
nanostation2?
 Turns out they don't have telnet on by default. I executed
 
 fconfig -w -d /dev/mtd6 -n bootp_my_ip -x 192.168.1.1
 
 and now I get
 
 Config verification failed
 
 anytime I try to perform an operation on the red boot configuration.
 
 Help!
 
 I've got all 4 of my nanostations flashed with OpenWRT. Now I want to 
 flash them with the ROBIN mesh firmware. Or does anyone know how to 
 get a mesh operational on stock OpenWRT? I've tried for a few days and 
 can't get it working. ROBIN mesh seems like the way to go.
 
 And of course I can't flash firmware from the OpenWRT web interface 
 cause it only accepts the .trx files.
 
 Can anyone help?
 
 Thanks!
 

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Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo and Ubnt

2011-01-30 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Ugh... I had 900 stuck in my head... I meant an SL-2! :)

ryan


On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:59 AM, Phil Curnutt wrote:

 CPQ-19= AirGrid 2G20 HP
 SL9=NanoStation Loco
 
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Re: [WISPA] Dropping Clients

2010-11-21 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Do you have any sort of trending for this site?  Mrtg? Cacti?

Tranzeo has snmp OIDs for signal and noise. 

ryan



On Nov 21, 2010, at 4:53 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote:

 Spoke to soon, starting to drop clients.
 From: ~NGL~
 Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 4:28 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dropping Clients
 
 Been up 23 hours since I changed channels, no dropped clients or other 
 problems.
 Keeping my fingers crossed.
 NGL
 From: RickG
 Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 8:35 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dropping Clients
 
 I understand that. I hope the frequency change helps. Let us know.
 
 On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 8:15 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote:
 Your partially right Tower is only 65 foot, but difficult to get to in good 
 weather using a quad, and it has been raining all day. No one want to climb a 
 tower in the rain. I have changed channel and it seems to be stable. I hope!
 NGL
 Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 4:43 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dropping Clients
 
 I take it the tower is fairly high so you're resisting climbing to swap it 
 out?
 
 On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 12:28 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote:
 Noise was the same as it always is 91 - 94 range, and is the same this 
 morning.
  
 We had some light rain yesterday started about noon, and rained on and off, 
 the same thing this morning.
 We had some very hard rain and strong winds the end of October, and 
 encountered no problems.
 I am going to try switching channels with another AP on that tower .
 NGL
 From: Bret Clark
 Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 9:14 AM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dropping Clients
 
 Did it rain recently? We had a similar problem where the antenna was not 
 sealed tight and everytime it rained hard clients would drop off, but after a 
 few hours of sun shining on the system they'd be fine until the next heavy 
 rain storm. The thing that threw us off was that light or normal rain that 
 didn't last long didn't seem to affect the antenna, only heavy rain with 
 maybe some wind thrown in the mix. 
 
 Then on a different note, we've recently been battling an issue where on one 
 of our 5GH systems clients were all dropping off at very random times...Turn 
 out damn BAE systems down the road was testing frequency hopping radar crap 
 and every time it hopped into the frequency we were using, the clients 
 dropped off. 
 
 
 On 11/20/2010 12:02 PM, ~NGL~ wrote:
 
 All the clients came back on line about 10 pm last night. and are still on 
 line this morning.
 I don’t get it!
 The AP is a TR-902 11f which has an internal antenna.
 The clients that were were dropped were a mix of nearest and furthest from 
 the AP.
 Thanx
 NGL
 From: Phil Curnutt
 Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 6:51 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dropping Clients
 
 Put a power meter between the AP radio and the antenna and make sure the 
 radio is putting out the power it should.  Also check the SWR, should be 
 about 1.3/5.  I would guess that the clients being dropped are the ones 
 furthest away, if the AP is losing power or the antenna is wet or damaged 
 and losing signal.
 
 Phil
 
 On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 10:41 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes. Since you said  it has now dropped 15 of 20 that are connected to that 
 AP. I would suspect there is an issue with that AP. I'd swap it out with a 
 known good AP and see if that helps. Otherwise, you may be having some 
 interference issues on that sector which would mean you'll need a cavity 
 filter. On that note, can you run a spectrum scan to see?
 
 
 On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 12:32 AM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote:
 Do you mean the AP? It still works with 7 clients now.
 NGL
 From: RickG
 Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 8:12 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dropping Clients
 
 swap the suspect unit out with a known working unit.
 
 On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 9:29 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote:
 I have 4 TR-902 AP's on a tower 3 are working fine, 1 has been dropping 
 clients at the rate of 1 every 5 minuets it has now dropped 15 of 20 that 
 are connected to that AP. I have rebooted the AP and some of the clients, 
 with no success. I have no idea what is wrong. Now I see that 2 have come 
 back.. Any suggestions?
 Thanx
 NGL 
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Re: [WISPA] Monitoring batteries

2010-10-27 Thread D. Ryan Spott
I use a superRMS 2 from these guys:
http://www.remotemonitoringsystems.ca/

The software they put on these things is just a little more polished than the 
packetflux stuff. I use both and love the cost of the packetflux equipment. 

Http://www.irongoat.net/sites/mtsultan is a private link that let's some of my 
partners see what is going on with the site. 

The wiring diagrams might be of use to you. 

ryan

On Oct 26, 2010, at 3:42 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote:

 What is available to monitor a solar site via the net. We have 2 remote tower 
 powered by solar and would like to monitor them via the web.
 Thanx
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Re: [WISPA] P2P/copyright notifications for RLC students

2010-10-22 Thread D. Ryan Spott


Did you bill PeerMedia Technologies for your time to deliver this to 
the end user?ryan




On Friday, October 22, 2010 at 7:21 AM, David E. Smith wrote:

I just received three notices of claimed copyright infringement for 
students at RLC. I've attached them (and named the files after the account IDs 
responsible). I've reduced these students' accounts to 128kbps for now. Please 
contact these students and discipline them according to your TOS.
The student IDs in question are downingel (yes, I got two emails about him) 
and gordonta.David SmithMVN.net-- 
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Re: [WISPA] Digital Loggers script

2010-07-14 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Gimme an ip/username and password and I'll make your life more exciting!  ;)

ryan



On Jul 14, 2010, at 6:37 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote:

 Ryan:
 
  
 
 I will check into if that works for me.  Unfortunately, if I had a day to 
 spare I’d wash my Jeep, Roundup the lane, and get a massage.  I may have to 
 wait a bit of have a sleepless night soon.  Thanks!
 
  
 
 Friendly Regards,
 
  
 
 Mike
 
  
 
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Ryan Spott
 Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 10:40 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Digital Loggers script
 
  
 
 Or, use the perl script they seem to pimp in their FAQ:
 
 http://www.digital-loggers.com/files/uu4.zip
 
  
 
 Something along the lines of:
 
  
 
 Usage: UserUtil Host[:port] login:password [n]{on|off|pulse|status}
 
  
 
 Examples: 
 
 192.168.0.100:80 admin:1234 5on
 
 192.168.0.100:80 admin:1234 status
 
 192.168.0.100:80 admin:1234 *off
 
  
 
 Does that work?
 
  
 
 ryan
 
  
 
 On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 3:05 AM, Philip Dorr wirel...@judgementgaming.com 
 wrote:
 
 If it is a HTTP interface then you might be able to use curl to talk
 to the device.
 
 
 On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:44 AM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote:
  Well yeah, I know that.  What I would like to do is  if this and this or
  this then do that.  I can write Awk code or something to do that, but I have
  never talked to a digital logger with its native language.  Have you?
 
  Friendly Regards,
 
  Mike
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  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
  Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 10:37 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Digital Loggers script
 
  It's built in.  Just have it ping the device (or a device on the far side of
 
  a link) and set the auto ping to cycle that outlet.
  marlon
 
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  To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 4:59 PM
  Subject: [WISPA] Digital Loggers script
 
 
  Does anyone have a way to control a Digital Loggers Ethernet switch they
  would share?  I want to be able to say create a batch file or small
  executable to power cycle certain ports.
 
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Re: [WISPA] Burying Cable

2010-06-10 Thread D. Ryan Spott
This is easy...

Explain to your customer that you do not trench and you have to run cable
across the yard.

Lay the cable out and tell them to bury it.

I tell my customers to bury the cable buy placing a shovel in the sod and
just cutting down far enough to get under the sod.

Then stuff in the wire.

This technique does not apply if the customer:
Runs horses as lawn mowers.
Uses one of those 'aerating' machines.
discs the yard (yes, this has happened)
Have 'digging' dogs... or Black labs (black labs LOVE outdoor cable)

I allow for one splice for free for the above. Additional trips cost money.

ryan


On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 8:13 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:

 Other than renting or buying a small trenching machine (That I'm sure I'd
 use to slice every cable and natural gas/water/sewage line within 20 feet
 of
 me the first time I use it)  I'm interested in seeing if there is a tool
 that will let a person (Or corporation)  push low voltage cable down below
 the sod.  I have a design in mind but if there is already something out
 there I'd like to see it.  Yeah, to buy it or maybe rip them off and make
 my
 own from how theirs look...  It's a thing..  Anyhow, I normally take a
 shovel and make a slit in the sod and stuff the cable down in it but doing
 a
 100+ foot run can make your day less fun than it already was.



 Anyone using any human powered tool (Other than a shovel or paying some kid
 20 bucks to do it for you) to bury cable?



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Re: [WISPA] Customer ID-10-T problems

2010-06-09 Thread D. Ryan Spott
I used to work for a colo firm and we had a customer come in with sabers
rattling and lawsuit threats flying that we had allowed his colocated server
to be hacked He proved it by sending us the source code of the web-page
served by his server...

We were a bit puzzled until we viewed the rendered source on a
web-browser... and we discovered that it was the this page cannot be
found... web-page from IE!

ryan

On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.comwrote:

 So we get an angry call from a customer demanding that we come out to
 fix their computer, because their Internet hasn't worked for a couple of
 months.

 Check the system logs, and yes - her link has been down for 13 days.
 Since we have an automated system that calls every two days when a
 customer is down for 48hours or longer, and then we have office staff
 call nearly every day after that period until we get an answer.   At
 fourteen days, she had received no less than eight phone calls, none of
 which had been answered.   We are very proactive about customer outages.
Customer also had a long history of not responding to phone calls
 and had twice not been at home when our tech made the 50 mile round trip
 to her house.   There was a bit of a history there.

 Now that we had her on the phone, we dropped everything and sent the
 nearest available tech to look at the problem.   She has no idea how
 much of an effort that is right now because we have had THREE major
 hailstorms and multiple tornadoes come through our area in the last two
 weeks and all of our service staff and contractors are booked solid for
 two weeks to deal with radios damaged by the storms, ripped off of
 roofs, or re-aimed by the strong winds.

 It all boiled down to two simple things, one that is very common and one
 that we had never come across before.

 1)  Her POE was plugged in backwards.

 2)  After plugging in the POE, she was still getting a page could not
 be displayed page in Internet Explorer.   Tech sat down and started
 doing some testing to see what was going on.  Pings were fine, email
 seemed to work fine, technician's laptop got on and was able to do
 everything normal on her connection.   Plugged it back into her computer
 and got the same error.   Tech puts in our home page and it comes right
 up.   Checks browser settings and find out that she had set her HOME
 PAGE to the dnserror.htm file (IE - the file that comes up when DNS
 isn't working)  - which was putting up an error everytime she started
 her browser.

 #...@#$%@#...@#$%@#!

 Her next bill will have a $35 service call attached to it.   I'd like to
 deliver it wrapped around a large rock through a window, but we will
 probably just put it in the mail.

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Re: [WISPA] You knew it was coming...

2010-06-03 Thread D. Ryan Spott
App Store - Search ATT - download app.

ryan

On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote:

 I believe Android systems will.  I'll know for sure Friday when I get
 the Evo 4G.

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   All of this would be not as big of a deal if ATT gave you a meter
 kind
  of like what Comcast does.  I have seen the stats for my phone and I
 don¹t
  use anywhere near 2 Gig.  I have a fairly active e-mail account that
 checks
  every 30 minutes, do a fair amount of web searches, use trapster when I
 go
  on trips, facebook, etc.  I don¹t do much streaming like Pandora or
 videos
  so I am not worried.
 
   The iphone is neat in the fact that WIFI takes precedence over the
  Cellular net.  So when I walk into my house it automatically switches to
  wifi for the apps.  I assume the droid will do this as well.
 
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Re: [WISPA] ROS on x86 - Backup Everything (system, config, license)?

2010-06-03 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Then use 2 coconuts to produce a oh never mind!

Is Ginger there? Cause if she is, I need to visit.

ryan

On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:

 Because I'm in the Amazon jungle. No UPS, FedEx, USPS etc. It's like
 Gilligan's Island but we have satellite internet and a generator.

 Greg

 On Jun 3, 2010, at 10:26 AM, Steve Barnes wrote:

  Instead why not buy a $40 Hard drive.  Leave the one in there with the MT
 ROS and if you ever have an issue pop the case, switch the cable and your
 ready to go.
 
  Steve Barnes
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  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Greg Ihnen
  Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 10:46 AM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] ROS on x86 - Backup Everything (system, config,
 license)?
 
  Thanks! That's what I thought  - anything that would do a byte for byte
 copy/image of the hard drive would work.
 
  Worst case scenario is I lose the license and have to buy another.
 
  Greg
 
  On Jun 3, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Philip Dorr wrote:
 
  If downtime is a option the you can boot the system of a live Linux
  distro and make a DD backup of the HDD.
 
  On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:
  I've googled and searched and can't find an answer to this. I posted to
 the MT forum, but I thought I'd try here too. Thanks!
 
  I would like to know if it's possible to back up the entire RouterOS
  install including the license on an x86 installation. I have a
  computer on which I was using for RouterOS but have swapped it out
  for an RB750. I want to use the computer for other things (perhaps
  Astaro or Untangle) but I don't want to lose the RouterOS license,
  and I would also like to have the computer ready to go back in
  service with RouterOS should the RB750 fail (I lost one to lightning
  before adding lightning protection). Understand I am not trying to
  pirate RouterOS or do anything which is contrary to the terms of the
  license. I just want to use the machine for something else, with the
  possibility of reverting back to RouterOS if the RB750 which replaced
  it should fail. If I didn't live in the jungle of South America I'd
  run down to Best Buy and pick up another SATA hard drive and use that
  for the other OS. But I only have one drive so I'm looking at imaging
  the drive with RouterOS on it and keep
  tha
  t image safe so I can use the hard drive for something else. Should
 this work? Any advice would be appreciated.
 
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Re: [WISPA] ROS on x86 - Backup Everything (system, config, license)?

2010-06-03 Thread D. Ryan Spott
YEEESSS.. lat and long please... :)

ryan

On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 8:27 AM, Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.comwrote:

 just where are you?

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Greg Ihnen
 Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 8:08 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] ROS on x86 - Backup Everything (system, config,
 license)?

 No Ginger, but if topless brown-skinned beauties floats your boat then
 you're in luck!


 On Jun 3, 2010, at 10:35 AM, D. Ryan Spott wrote:

  Then use 2 coconuts to produce a oh never mind!
 
  Is Ginger there? Cause if she is, I need to visit.
 
  ryan
 
  On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Because I'm in the Amazon jungle. No UPS, FedEx, USPS etc. It's like
  Gilligan's Island but we have satellite internet and a generator.
 
  Greg
 
  On Jun 3, 2010, at 10:26 AM, Steve Barnes wrote:
 
  Instead why not buy a $40 Hard drive.  Leave the one in there with the
 MT
  ROS and if you ever have an issue pop the case, switch the cable and
 your
  ready to go.
 
  Steve Barnes
  RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
  Behalf Of Greg Ihnen
  Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 10:46 AM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] ROS on x86 - Backup Everything (system, config,
  license)?
 
  Thanks! That's what I thought  - anything that would do a byte for byte
  copy/image of the hard drive would work.
 
  Worst case scenario is I lose the license and have to buy another.
 
  Greg
 
  On Jun 3, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Philip Dorr wrote:
 
  If downtime is a option the you can boot the system of a live Linux
  distro and make a DD backup of the HDD.
 
  On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I've googled and searched and can't find an answer to this. I posted
 to
  the MT forum, but I thought I'd try here too. Thanks!
 
  I would like to know if it's possible to back up the entire RouterOS
  install including the license on an x86 installation. I have a
  computer on which I was using for RouterOS but have swapped it out
  for an RB750. I want to use the computer for other things (perhaps
  Astaro or Untangle) but I don't want to lose the RouterOS license,
  and I would also like to have the computer ready to go back in
  service with RouterOS should the RB750 fail (I lost one to lightning
  before adding lightning protection). Understand I am not trying to
  pirate RouterOS or do anything which is contrary to the terms of the
  license. I just want to use the machine for something else, with the
  possibility of reverting back to RouterOS if the RB750 which replaced
  it should fail. If I didn't live in the jungle of South America I'd
  run down to Best Buy and pick up another SATA hard drive and use that
  for the other OS. But I only have one drive so I'm looking at imaging
  the drive with RouterOS on it and keep
  tha
  t image safe so I can use the hard drive for something else. Should
  this work? Any advice would be appreciated.
 
  Greg
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Availability Monitoring

2010-06-03 Thread D. Ryan Spott
I do this for my network and my competitors. :)

Nice to compare apples to rotten apples.

ryan



On Jun 3, 2010, at 3:10 PM, Nick Huanca n...@greataukwireless.com  
wrote:

 Hi all,

 I wanted to see if anyone has any ideas on Availability Monitoring  
 of core
 devices and APs. Is anyone out there performing availability reports  
 using
 Nagios or anything similar? For example, if something is down for 1  
 hour,
 depending on it's placement in the network, it would bring the  
 availability
 of that section of the network down to around 99.990% for the year  
 (99.990%
 = 52.6 minutes per year). The issue is that Nagios dilutes the  
 results of
 overall network availability by including all the 100% figures that  
 were not
 included in the outage.

 Is anyone organizing their reports in a different fashion that more
 accurately portray availability of a network? I understand this is  
 quite a
 loaded question not knowing the topology or any of the  
 configurations of our
 Nagios implementation.


 Thanks in advance!

 -- 
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Re: [WISPA] Google Pac Man Survey Results

2010-05-25 Thread D. Ryan Spott
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/25/google-pacman-doodle-devo_n_588605.html

4.8 MILLION hours of time! :)

ryan

On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote:

 Isn't that funny.  Galaga is my favorite too!

 My wife loves Pacman.

 So near as I can tell men love Galaga.  Girls and environmentalists love
 Pacman.

 grin
 marlon

 - Original Message -
 From: Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 12:51 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google Pac Man Survey Results


  So I took a survey and 39 of you responded with your answers.  The first
  choice was Galaga and the Second Centepede.  I appreciate your help, we
  will be integrating them into the Regional Meeting happening July
  21/22.  Thanks for your help in guiding our decisions.
 
  1st ChoiceGame2nd Choice
 
  2  Pacman   3
  11Galaga 1
  2  Gorf0
  2 Donkey Kong   1
  2 Centepede5
  1 Asteroids  3
  2 Asteroids Deluxe  0
  1 Dig Dug1
  0 Space Invaders 1
  0 Lunar Lander0
  2 Missle Command  2
  1 Zork 0
  2 Ms. Pacman 0
  3 Frogger2
  2 Donkey Kong  2
  1 19423
  1 Defender  1
  2 Zaxxon 0
  1 Tron 1
 
  Other notes:  Zork was never a stand up game (oops), Galaxian (pre
  Galaga), Tempest (I remember that one, the flapping wings right?)
 
  Anyway, thanks for your help and filling out the survey, made for an
  interesting Friday.
 
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Re: [WISPA] Good reliable b/g/n inside AP

2010-05-24 Thread D. Ryan Spott
What is a Ruckus box running now-a-days?

ryan

On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Jeff Ehman jeh...@cticonnect.com wrote:

 Ruckus Wireless.  Hands down.  Their smart antenna array, price point and
 simple configuration/maintenance are unmatched.  Plus, this pertains to
 larger projects but if their controller goes down all the APs still
 broadcast!  The only functionality that goes away is support/maintenance but
 at least everyone can still get on the internet.

 -Jeff
 Convergence Technologies
 There is a difference


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Jason Hensley
 Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 10:46 AM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: [WISPA] Good reliable b/g/n inside AP

 So many different things out on the market right now.  What would you guys
 recommend for a reliable AP for use inside a conference room for a business
 requiring rock solid access?  B/G would be OK, but would prefer to go ahead
 and have N as well.

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Re: [WISPA] Google Pac Man

2010-05-21 Thread D. Ryan Spott
I used to spend 12-15 hours a day playing this. I think I wore out several
Atari 2600 joysticks.

I am not a gamer as my fast twitch muscles were not fast enough for games
faster than Pacman. My wife was not aware of this past history and foolishly
challenged me to a Mrs Pacman table-top game at a bar one night. She played
her turn... and then I played mine for ~2.5 hours. I had a crowd around
me.

Her jaw was on the floor, she just muttered what she thinks is an insult: I
married such a nerd.

:)

ryan



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  But dd...

 Robert West wrote:

 Stop playing Google Pac Man and get back to work!







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Re: [WISPA] Google Pac Man

2010-05-21 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Go get some nerdy glasses and see if your wife likes role playing, lol,
happy Friday!

GREAT! *Insomnia City*

Now every time I close my eyes I will have Forbes in nerd glasses 'role
playing'

:P

happy dreams everyone!

ryan

On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 9:05 AM, Forbes Mercy
forbes.me...@wabroadband.comwrote:

 According to Maxim, which us single guys still get to read :) women like
 nerds more, good women anyway.  Its no insult at all, I spent the same
 amount of time on those games in my youth and Matt's Galaga is my fav,
 maybe we can have the St. Louis WISP dig one up for the hotel at our
 upcoming Regional Meeting. Oddly once I owned an ISP I didn't seem to
 want to play games anymore, the sad off-shoot of being on the computer
 too much but have no fear the closet gamer is in all of us or it's
 doubtful we'd love this business so much.  Go get some nerdy glasses and
 see if your wife likes role playing, lol, happy Friday!

 Forbes

 On 5/21/2010 8:58 AM, Robert West wrote:
  That's a moment that any man can be proud of.
 
  LOL!
 
  Bob-
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott
  Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 11:39 AM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google Pac Man
 
  I used to spend 12-15 hours a day playing this. I think I wore out
 several
  Atari 2600 joysticks.
 
  I am not a gamer as my fast twitch muscles were not fast enough for games
  faster than Pacman. My wife was not aware of this past history and
 foolishly
  challenged me to a Mrs Pacman table-top game at a bar one night. She
 played
  her turn... and then I played mine for ~2.5 hours. I had a crowd
 around
  me.
 
  Her jaw was on the floor, she just muttered what she thinks is an insult:
 I
  married such a nerd.
 
  :)
 
  ryan
 
 
 
  On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Jack Ungerjun...@ask-wi.com  wrote:
 
 
But dd...
 
  Robert West wrote:
 
  Stop playing Google Pac Man and get back to work!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth

2010-05-20 Thread D. Ryan Spott
What do your trends show you?

Take your yearly graph and draw a line along the averages. Extend this
line what does it do?

ryan

On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 6:54 AM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:

 When you peak at 65-75 percent its probably time to add more. It
 depends on how fast your filling it up and how long it takes to
 implement the new capacity.
 -RickG

 On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 9:09 AM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote:
  At what percentage of your backbone usage do you look at adding more
  capacity. At peak times I run at 65-70 percent of capacity.  Just
  looking for suggestions.
 
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[WISPA] Times Microwave tools for LMR 400...

2010-05-17 Thread D. Ryan Spott
I am looking for the following:
EZ-400-NMH-D Connector
CCT-01 Tool (cutter)
ST-400EZ tool (cable Prep tool)
DBT-U (deburr tool)
HX4 Tool (crimp tool)

Separately or in a kit...

Does anyone have a favorite Vendor? I saw one vendor selling a kit for
LMR400/600 with all of the above parts. They wanted over $1000 for it!

The 'EZ-Crimp connectors look like the way to go, but other advice is
appreciated.

ryan



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Re: [WISPA] Hamvention

2010-05-16 Thread D. Ryan Spott
It wasn't a she... and it was all night baby :)

ryan

On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 9:38 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:

 What?  Then who was it I spent the day with???!!!

 She said her name was Rickesha.


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 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 7:08 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hamvention


 I'm sorry Bob! I was slacking all night on a water tank after it took
 a direct hit. Picture of omni attached. Even with LP in place, it
 melted the cabling down to the enclosure and burned up everything in
 it! I got it back up  running by dropping temporary cables down the
 side of the tower. A dozen man hours later - it's all new. Maybe next
 year!

 On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 11:55 PM, Robert West
 robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
  Rick, was good to hang with you today. Very cool. I never imagined you as
  a short black woman... But it's all good.
 
  Go figure, Rick being short for Rickesha.
 
  Anyhow, good meetin' ya.
 
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Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

2010-05-13 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Take a look at http://www.brandonchecketts.com/open-source-speedtest

I modified mine to save speedtests that my clients run so I can review them
at a later date. This helps me spot trends. I let my customers see the last
5 or so speedtests.

Some advice:
1. Make sure you save ALL of the speedtests your clients run. Then you can
look at the history of speedtests when the customer emails you to whine
about slow speeds and sends you a screenshot of the speedtest... the
one they cherry picked to show slow speeds... This generally happens around
billing time.
2. Make sure that it is only available on your network. I had to put mine
behind a php ACL to prevent dialup users from telling me that my wireless
was no faster than their dialup according to my speedtest that they ran
from their dialup connection!! *head-desk*.
3. (this makes #2 even more important.. I cannot tell you how many customers
would call complaining about 'slow speeds'... and after investigating I
found they were using an AOL proxy or a proxy running some filtering
software... or performing the speedtest through their corp VPN connection!

ryan

On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Carl Shivers cshiv...@aristotle.netwrote:

 From time to time I get customer complaints when they use various offsite
 speed tests. Does anyone know of good speed test software that I can set up
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Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

2010-05-11 Thread D. Ryan Spott
$1 For everything or just half the features?

ryan

On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:

 Something like $1/active account.

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  How much does powercode cost?
 
 
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  I use Powercode.
 
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  I'm looking for software to tract customer calls, trouble tickets,
  appointments, and customer information.  Can anyone suggest a good
  software
  that can do this.  Id like to have web access.  I've looked at a few but
  have never heard of most of them so I'm looking for suggestions of what
  others have used and like.  Thanks for any input.
 
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Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

2010-05-11 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Yeah, I was gonna say. I looked at, and even entered my subs into powercode
at one point last summer... happily thinking this system is gonna rock!
and then I found out that I only get 1/2 of the features that were
advertised. :(

I ended up not going with them.

ryan

On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Mark Nash - Lists markl...@uwol.netwrote:

 I personally think it's more like $1.35/sub or $1.65/sub for everything.
 Our normal bill is about $1200/mo I think for 850 subs.

 - Original Message -
 From: D. Ryan Spott rsp...@irongoat.net
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 12:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software


 $1 For everything or just half the features?

 ryan

 On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Josh Luthman
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:

  Something like $1/active account.
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
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  Suite 1337
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  continue that counts.”
  --- Winston Churchill
 
 
 
  On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Sara Gray li...@jcwifi.com wrote:
   How much does powercode cost?
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
   Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
   Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:39 PM
   To: WISPA General List
   Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software
  
   I use Powercode.
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Sara Gray li...@jcwifi.com
   To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
   Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:35 AM
   Subject: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software
  
  
   I'm looking for software to tract customer calls, trouble tickets,
   appointments, and customer information.  Can anyone suggest a good
   software
   that can do this.  Id like to have web access.  I've looked at a few
   but
   have never heard of most of them so I'm looking for suggestions of
 what
   others have used and like.  Thanks for any input.
  
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Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Cap Implementation

2010-05-07 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Hey Matt,

Can you give us your customers' reaction to this change after a few weeks?

ryan

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 11:11 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.comwrote:

 Since there has been a lot of discussion about bandwidth caps on this
 list recently, I thought that I would share the one that we recently
 implemented, along with some details on how we are enforcing it and how
 we established the caps.

 Going back to day 1, we have had a 3gig cap on broadband customers with
 a $25/gig surcharge for anyone exceeding that amount. When we were using
 all StarOS V2, the radius accounting information was keeping fairly
 close track of the bandwidth per customer. Fast forward six years, and
 that cap was so low as to be a joke -- and we had not been enforcing it.
 It was also very difficult to collect accurate accounting data - StarOS
 evolved and the radius accounting became useless in version 3, so some
 access points were tracking it and others were not. We also have a few
 Tranzeo and Mikrotik access points in the system and no good way to
 collect the individual subscriber download information from them either.

 After looking at several different options for collecting the bandwidth
 traffic information, we decided to use open source tools to develop our
 own solution. We installed a switch between our core and edge routers --
 behind the NAT so that it could see all customer's IP addresses -- and
 mirrored a port to our new collection server. The collection server is a
 Linux box running CentOS 5.2. The linux box is using softflowd-0.98 to
 collect the netflows, and flow-tools-v-0.68.5 to look at the data. Daily
 reports are mailed out to our techs list to show the customer who are
 nearing or over their caps. A customer page was created that shows the
 customers how much bandwidth they have used, how much they have left
 before charges and what their overage charges are (if any). The customer
 page also shows their historical usage trend for the last 12 months --
 starting with April 2010 when we started collecting the information.
 Starting on June 1, we will bill overages as a separate charge to the
 customers on the 1^st of the month, regardless of their billing
 anniversary.

 The process of implementing this was quite interesting. Out of 2000+
 customers, 80 used more than 10 gigs for the month. One customer - a 1
 meg subscriber at the far eastern edge of our network, behind seven
 wireless hops and on an 802.11b AP -- downloaded 140gig. Another one, on
 the far western side of our network, downloaded 110gig. We called them
 and found out that they were watching a ton of online video. We
 discovered a county government connection that was around 100gig --
 mostly because someone in the sheriff's department was pounding for
 BitTorrent files from 1am to 7am in the morning, and sometimes crashing
 their firewall machine because of the traffic. We also discovered that
 there was 80-100meg of stateless udp type traffic traversing our routed
 network and getting to our core router. Revised firewall rules on the
 APs fixed this problem. The majority of the rest of the subs on the list
 were either online video watchers, people with virus problems or who had
 left filesharing programs running on their computers.

 After reviewing the usage records, we decided on the following cap sizes
 for our plans:

 Package Monthly Download Cap

 384k 10 gigabytes

 640k 10 gigabytes

 1 meg 20 gigabytes

 2 meg 40 gigabytes

 3 meg 50 gigabytes

 4 meg 60 gigabytes

 8 meg 80 gigabytes

 Additional capacity over cap $1 per gigabyte over the cap

 I feel that these caps are more than generous, and should have a minimal
 effect on the majority of our customers. With our backbone consumption
 per customer increasing, implementing caps of some kind became a
 necessity. I am not looking at the caps as a new profit center -- they
 are a deterrent as much as anything. It will provide an incentive for
 customers to upgrade to a faster plan with a higher cap, or take their
 download habits to a competitor and chew up someone else's bandwidth.

 This has been an educational experience, and probably one that we should
 have gone through a couple of years ago. I would like to thank the
 people on the WISPA and Butch Evans' Mikrotik lists for their input
 while we were developing this system.

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Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo - Again.....

2010-05-05 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Tranzeo APs (not the EL models) are great for small 15 sub sites. After
that, they tank.

ryan

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote:

 I have yet to find a Tranzeo AP that works.

 Pull it out and put nearly anything else in it's place.

 I use MT for ap's and have not looked back.  How many Tranzeo ap's would
 you
 like?  I've got stacks of them on the shelf (I use them for REALLY small
 repeater sites).
 marlon

 - Original Message -
 From: Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 1:49 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo - Again.


  Hey all,
 
  I've got what appears to me to be a dumb question, but I'm all out of
 good
  answers right now.
 
  We've got mostly all Alvarion stuff on our WISP Network - All bridged,
  including the backhauls. The entire network is addressed @ 10.0.100.x for
  management / monitoring purposes, and has been running fine. (Our Public
  IP
  address space is 98.100.x.x)
 
  We recently added a Tranzeo AP, and (1) client at a new POP - Addressed
  them
  into our 10.0.100.x Network and set the client up. Signal is great, but
  we've had nothing but problems at this location. It will run for a short
  while, then drop off, then come back, etc. (And on, and on..) While
  testing we discovered we can ping the 10.0.100.x address, and / or stay
  logged onto the radio consistently, but the Router on the Public IP drops
  off. We've swapped Radios / Routers / Switches / Etc. - The only constant
  is
  the Tranzeo link. (The Client at the POP that we're broadcasting from
 work
  flawlessly - It's a Ubiquity Bridge Link.) There's the scenario, here's
  the
  question.
 
  Is there a problem with me addressing the Tranzeo Radios in the
  10.0.100.x? Arp Table problems?
 
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Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo - Again.....

2010-05-05 Thread D. Ryan Spott
I think you are going to see more discussion on the 
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/tranzeo_wimax_users with the recent
purchase of Aperto they might be THE way to get into wimax for a reasonable
price.

ryan

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote:

 Tranzeo needs to step up their game, I mean, look how many manufacturers
 have Mimo-N radio's out now. Look how long it took Tranzeo to add 802.11G
 to
 the CPQ line. Then 10mhz channels on top of that.

 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
 Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 11:40 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo - Again.

 I have yet to find a Tranzeo AP that works.

 Pull it out and put nearly anything else in it's place.

 I use MT for ap's and have not looked back.  How many Tranzeo ap's would
 you

 like?  I've got stacks of them on the shelf (I use them for REALLY small
 repeater sites).
 marlon

 - Original Message -
 From: Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 1:49 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo - Again.


  Hey all,
 
  I've got what appears to me to be a dumb question, but I'm all out of
 good
  answers right now.
 
  We've got mostly all Alvarion stuff on our WISP Network - All bridged,
  including the backhauls. The entire network is addressed @ 10.0.100.x for
  management / monitoring purposes, and has been running fine. (Our Public
  IP
  address space is 98.100.x.x)
 
  We recently added a Tranzeo AP, and (1) client at a new POP - Addressed
  them
  into our 10.0.100.x Network and set the client up. Signal is great, but
  we've had nothing but problems at this location. It will run for a short
  while, then drop off, then come back, etc. (And on, and on..) While
  testing we discovered we can ping the 10.0.100.x address, and / or stay
  logged onto the radio consistently, but the Router on the Public IP drops
  off. We've swapped Radios / Routers / Switches / Etc. - The only constant
  is
  the Tranzeo link. (The Client at the POP that we're broadcasting from
 work
  flawlessly - It's a Ubiquity Bridge Link.) There's the scenario, here's
  the
  question.
 
  Is there a problem with me addressing the Tranzeo Radios in the
  10.0.100.x? Arp Table problems?
 
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Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5

2010-04-26 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Is that a 'ptp' link or a 'ptmp' link?

The sector hints at this being the latter. Also, what sort of pps are  
you seeing on this link?

ryan



On Apr 26, 2010, at 1:13 PM, Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com wrote:

 Oops, actually that's wrong. I've got a rocket m5/rocketdish 30 on one
 side, and a rocket m5/rocket 120/19 db sector on the other.

 Regards
 Michael Baird
 I've got a 10 mile link with two Ubiquiti 2ft dishes -60 or so on  
 both
 sides, I can get 77 megs one way and 58 the other, one side has some
 noise issues hurting throughput. This was mcs15 130/117.

 Regards
 Michael Baird

 What kind of realistic throughput are people getting out of these?
 10, 20 and 40meg channels?  Where I want to try one I doubt I can
 spare 40meg of 5.8.  Was thinking of a 3 foot dual polarity dish and
 big backhaul.

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Re: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC

2010-04-05 Thread D. Ryan Spott
L-R

Ryan, John, Alex, Jack and Stephen.

ryan



On Apr 5, 2010, at 5:41 AM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote:

 This is a great report good job guys and thank you.

 Next question.  I don't know any of the team personally just from  
 your posts.  The picture in the report, can you give us a who's who  
 left to right.

 Steve Barnes
 RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]  
 On Behalf Of Jack Unger
 Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 7:17 PM
 To: memb...@wispa.org; WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC

 Last Wednesday, March 31, the WISPA FCC Committee assisted by the  
 WISPA Promotions Committee met with top managers of the FCC Office  
 of Engineering and Technology (OET) at FCC Headquarters in  
 Washington D.C.
 to discuss the status of WISPA's TV Whitespaces filings.

 The following Members represented WISPA. Ryan Spott, Alex Phillips,  
 John Scriver, and Jack Unger. The WISPA Team was assisted by Steve  
 Coran of Rini/Coran LLC in Washington.

 All Team Members made valuable contributions to the effort and we  
 all feel that the meeting went well. Our goal was to ask the FCC  
 take favorable action soon on WISPA's Petitions to adjust the TV  
 Whitespace rules by making corrections to several problem areas,  
 thereby making WISP use of the Whitespaces more practical and more  
 successful.

 I'm attaching a more detailed report (.doc file) and also the  
 official written filing (PDF) that WISPA is required to make after  
 every meeting with the FCC. A copy of our FCC PowerPoint  
 presentation is also required to be part of our written filing. To  
 easily view our presentation, please rotate the attached PDF  
 clockwise 90 degrees in your Adobe Reader viewer.

 Your questions and constructive suggestions are always welcome.

 Respectfully Submitted,

 Jack Unger
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Sector Tilt angle

2010-03-30 Thread D. Ryan Spott
really good TV reception

It tells them something so they get less interested and leave you alone.

ryan



On Mar 29, 2010, at 8:25 PM, Mike Mattox wi...@mcmsys.com wrote:

 SSSH,  aliens


 Signal is great
 where we can see it, just needed a good fix for not having to do  
 the 2 man
 show all over the county.  (With everyone in a pickup truck  
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Re: [WISPA] Building Heights?

2010-03-30 Thread D. Ryan Spott
12 feet per floor is how we do it in the fire service.

10 feet per floor for residential.

But RF is diffrent than fire behaivior... Well I guess both can burn  
you. ;)

ryan



On Mar 30, 2010, at 10:38 AM, Marlon K. Schafer  
o...@odessaoffice.com wrote:

 Clyde M. taught me a cool trick.

 Use a ruler, move back from a door till the door fills a 1/4 (or  
 similar)
 mark.  Then count the marks to the top of the building.  Multiply  
 that by 7'
 for the average door height and you'll know how tall the building  
 is.  Very
 slick trick.
 marlon

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 Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 11:49 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Building Heights?


 Tax assessing data

 45 degree square and a tape measure on flat ground.

 45 degree square, laser rangefinder, scientific calculator.



 On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 02:07:36PM -0400, Charles Hooper wrote:
 Hello,

 Does anyone know a reliable source/method of getting building  
 heights?
 Something like a topographical map that included buildings would be
 excellent, but I haven't been able to find anything like this.

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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 legal ptp radios

2010-03-11 Thread D. Ryan Spott
The TR5a does have DFS. I think Damian Wallace's rant goes like this:
We give the radio to a testing lab, and they do FCC testing.
Then they tell us to listen for some sort of signal... and they give  
us like eleventy-billion signatures to listen for.
Then they take our radio to a secret room and they make sure that  
they shut down when the signatures are presented.
It is a pain in the backside...

Older models of insert brand here that were created before DFS was  
required, did not have DFS.  I have some older radios from insert up  
to 3 vendors here that do not have DFS.. However, newer models do,  
and some manufacturers turn DFS on with a firmware update.

ryan


On Mar 11, 2010, at 10:06 AM, Nathan Stooke wrote:

 Hello,

   As far as I know the Tranzeo TR-5A is not approved in the US.  While
 the radio can do it physically it does not have DFS and has not been
 approved for use in the US.

   I hope I am wrong. Any have the FCC doc to show it is OK to use in
 the US?  I have not searched the FCC site for them.

   Thanks


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]  
 On
 Behalf Of Randy Cosby
 Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 10:14 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 legal ptp radios

 I'm trying to compile a list of options for FCC certified 5.4 ptp  
 radios
 for short backhaul links.  Off the top of my head, I can remember:

 Tranzeo TR-5A
 Trango TrangoLINK-45
 Radwin 2000 (has mimo as well)
 Motorola PTP 100, 200, 300, 500, 600

 Any others I'm not aware of?  Sure would be nice to see more mimo/N
 radios certified in 5.4.  Anyone working through the approval process
 (ligowave?).


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 Vice President
 InfoWest, Inc

 435-674-0165 x 2010

 http://www.infowest.com/

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Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app

2010-03-11 Thread D. Ryan Spott
I use touchterm. It does the needfull. :)

ryan



On Mar 11, 2010, at 1:54 PM, Data Technology w...@dtisp.com wrote:

 I know in the last couple of weeks there was a discussion about an ssh
 app for the iPhone.
 I did not save the emails because I thought I would never need  
 something
 like because I don't have an iPhone.

 But, I bought an iPhone last night and now I am looking for an ssh  
 app.

 I have found iSSH and the reviews are good about it.  I know that  
 $7.99
 for an app is a lot of money but if this is the one to have then I  
 don't
 mind spending the money.  This also appears to have a vnc client as  
 well.

 Any input as far as SSH utilities or any other iPhone apps for WISP
 operations would be appreciated.

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 Data Technology


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Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app

2010-03-11 Thread D. Ryan Spott

Ima gonna tell stevie jobs on you! :)

ryan


On Mar 11, 2010, at 1:57 PM, Sales sa...@michianawireless.com wrote:

 Hmm I just goto my iPhones command line via shell and type ssh
 ipaddress works like a charm.

 John Buwa
 Michiana Wireless,Inc
 574-233-7170
 Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 11, 2010, at 4:54 PM, Data Technology w...@dtisp.com wrote:

 I know in the last couple of weeks there was a discussion about an  
 ssh
 app for the iPhone.
 I did not save the emails because I thought I would never need
 something
 like because I don't have an iPhone.

 But, I bought an iPhone last night and now I am looking for an ssh
 app.

 I have found iSSH and the reviews are good about it.  I know that
 $7.99
 for an app is a lot of money but if this is the one to have then I
 don't
 mind spending the money.  This also appears to have a vnc client as
 well.

 Any input as far as SSH utilities or any other iPhone apps for WISP
 operations would be appreciated.

 LaRoy McCann
 Data Technology


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Re: [WISPA] Moisture Abatement Techniques

2010-03-02 Thread D. Ryan Spott
The rule is to never stretch the last 2 winds of the tape as you put  
it on... and ALWAYS *CUT* the tape, never rip it. Ripping implies  
stretching till failure.

I can always tell who rips and who cuts on towers by the number of  
vinyl flags flapping when I climb by other antennas on the tower.

ryan


On Mar 2, 2010, at 4:54 AM, Mike wrote:

 The trick to that is to NOT stretch the last couple wraps on the 33  
 or 88.
 Of course all bets are off if it's really cold.  I keep a roll in my  
 pants
 pocket for cold weather wraps.

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]  
 On
 Behalf Of Greg Ihnen
 Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 6:36 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Moisture Abatement Techniques

 Does't the glue on the Super-33 start to fail with time and you end  
 up with
 the end of the tape coming loose and flapping in the wind? That's  
 why I like
 to finish with the rubber tape.

 Greg

 On Mar 2, 2010, at 12:22 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:

 YES!!! This is how I seal connections, has never failed yet!

 1. Tape a layer of Super-33 from the bottom up. Just one layer.
 2. Put on a layer of the rubber tape from the bottom up. Just one  
 layer.
 3. Tape another layer up with the Super-33 again. From the bottom  
 up as
 well. Just one layer.

 This system has worked great for 5 years and all my connections have
 always
 been bone dry when taken apart with a utility knife.

 One thing I can tell you is it better be bone dry when you put this
 together
 cause if its not then you just trapped the water in cause nothing is
 getting
 in or out.

 I get the rubber tape at True Value hardware stores. Its less then  
 $4 and
 does not leave a sticky mess when removed. It has a blue layer  
 between
 itself on the role so the rubber does not stick together. Its  
 always in
 the
 same area as the electrical tape and electrical supplies. I guess  
 its used
 widely by electricians.

 I showed a Two Way Radio technician that has 30+ years experience  
 in RF my
 method and he was very impressed.

 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- 
 boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Greg Ihnen
 Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 7:01 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Moisture Abatement Techniques

 Does anyone like the pure rubber self vulcanizing tape over the vinyl
 tape?
 I like how that doesn't come loose over time.

 Greg

 On Mar 1, 2010, at 1:29 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote:

 NS2's and other outdoor radios can take care of themselves. I add a
 little
 seal around the cable exit on the bottom of the cover. The bullets  
 make me
 a
 little nervous - I don't trust the grommet that comes with them - a  
 little
 sealer on the back at the cable exit is a good idea.

 This is how I was taught for RF connectors

 3 layer process:
 Layer 1 - 3M Super33 or Super88 electrical tape over the entire
 connection
 extending 2 past the shrink wrap at both ends
 Layer 2 - 3M Mastic 2229 over the electrical tape - squeeze  
 repeatedly to
 conform all of the seams to one contiguous seal
 Layer 3 - 3M Super33 or Super88 over the Mastic - this is to keep  
 the
 mastic in place and for UV protection

 http://picasaweb.google.com/aircloud.com/AntennaCoaxSeal#



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 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- 
 boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Israel Lopez-LISTS
 Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 9:46 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Moisture Abatement Techniques

 Hey All,

 So how do you guys avoid getting water/moisture in your gear?

 I'm going to be standing up a 9 end-point network, with some  
 Ubiquiti
 (Bullet2, Nanostation) gear, Directional  H-Pol Omni antennas,
 Polyphasers, Ethernet Lightning Arrestors, etc,.  I'm not going to  
 be
 able to travel to the site again in at least a year; its a rainy  
 part of
 the world, so I'd like to prevent any damage to the gear as much as
 possible.

 Anything I should do to prevent moisture from getting into the  
 gear? Or
 other protective measures... Teflon on the coax connectors,  
 Electrical
 Tape on the Edges of the gear?  If there was a place I could see  
 some
 pictures of the implementations that would be good too.

 -Israel




 
 
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Re: [WISPA] bit torrents

2010-02-14 Thread D. Ryan Spott
I allow it at 4kbps... For the entire network. muhahahahahahah *cough*

But seriously. I have a play nice policy. If someone is affecting  
other users, we call them and ask them to slow down thier up/downloads  
so they don't piss off thier neighbors.

My wife called one of our customers to ask that they stop bittorenting  
so much. The dad said that no-one was torrenting in the house...  
Further investigation showed it was the 13year old son downloading  
movies etc.

He was grounded for the rest of his life... Turns out dad was the  
group program manager for Microsoft's DRM group!  (whoops! We sure  
felt bad)

ryan

On Feb 13, 2010, at 9:54 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:

 Even though our AUP  TOS does not allow it, I have a customer
 demanding to run bit torrents. I want to be fair in all matters. Am I
 being over
 zealous on not allowing torrents? Who here allows or disallows them?
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Re: [WISPA] Packet flux shunt

2010-02-08 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Backwoodssolar.com

Look under meters.

ryan



On Feb 8, 2010, at 12:42 PM, Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com wrote:

 I am looking for a shunt to monitor a wind turbine.  that would work  
 with the packet flux product

 Turbine is 400w at 12 V so I think I should get a 50Amp one. to 100  
 Millivolt

 Can anyone recommend where to buy it


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Re: [WISPA] Insurance

2010-02-03 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Certificate of insurance.

ryan


On Feb 3, 2010, at 7:38 PM, Robert West wrote:

 I think the technical insurance term for that is coveringyourass.

 Bob-


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]  
 On
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 9:46 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance

 You can have your subcontractors put you on the list of people to  
 update
 with any insurance changes.  This will tell you if their insurance  
 is halted
 because of payment, or whatever.

 Can't remember what the word is.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to  
 continue
 that counts.
 --- Winston Churchill


 On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 9:38 PM, Robert West
 robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:

 Depends on if you are using sub contractors, in house or doing it  
 all just
 by yourself.

 We use a few subs but require that they have insurance of their own  
 and
 have
 to see actually proof AND call the agent to verify.  (Don't ever  
 take a
 subs
 word for insurance coverage because 99.9% of the time, LIE!)  I  
 actually
 had
 to pay for a minor fender bender caused by a sub contractor who had  
 no
 insurance even on his truck  Doesn't matter about any signed
 agreement, the small claims judge still treated it as an employee/ 
 employer
 relationship.

 So make sure it will cover any sub contractor messes.

 We use a local guy, no big insurance company.  He handles it all  
 for us
 through his agency.  Our number one thing was the coverage limit.  1
 million
 bucks is cheap enough but if you step back, 1 million bucks pays  
 how much
 of
 some apartment building and contents that burned down because one  
 of your
 guys drilled a hole through a gas line or electrical line and was  
 either
 too
 stupid to notice or too scared to tell anyone?

 Bob-



 -Original Message-
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 boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Jeremie Chism
 Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 9:27 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Insurance

 Outside of general liability insurance what insurance are some of you
 using. Also any recommendations on companies?

 Sent from my iPhone




 
 
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Re: [WISPA] EBS Licensing

2010-01-21 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Or the cash equivlent?

I can't wait to see what happens in...oh...6 years or so when these  
school boards renegotiate the 10 year subleases of this spectrum.

Could be an interesting and lucrative time for those districts that  
are getting peanuts for rent of thier spectrum.

ryan


On Jan 21, 2010, at 2:17 PM, Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com 
  wrote:

 For digital couldn't they just figure out the capacity of the system,
 provide 5% of that to any and all educational institutions by giving  
 them
 guaranteed capacity that adds up to the 5%?



 Thank You,
 Brian Webster


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on
 Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen
 Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 5:03 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] EBS Licensing


 I need some information as to how Clear (Clearwire) is fulfilling  
 their
 subleasing requirements in the EBS band.

 The rules state the following:

 1. There must be a minimum of 20 hours per 6 MHz channel per week of
 educational use of EBS spectrum.
 2. For analog facilities, EBS licensees must retain a right to  
 recapture
 an additional amount of 20 more hours per channel per week capacity  
 for
 educational purposes.
 3. For digital facilities, the EBS licensee must reserve at least 5%  
 of
 its transmission capacity for educational purposes.

 Can anyone tell me how Clear is fulfilling these rules?

 -Eric


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Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt

2010-01-09 Thread D. Ryan Spott
I leave the head on invade I need to have a light.

Best part is I always have a battery for my drill if I run out of  
juice while driving lags!!

ryan



On Jan 9, 2010, at 4:24 AM, Eric Rogers ecrog...@precisionds.com  
wrote:

 We did something similar with the pivot Dewalt flashlight.  Since we  
 use the 18v drills, it worked perfectly.  Took the flashlight part  
 off, and left the handle with the switch.  Connected a cat5 keystone  
 jack...whittled out the hole where the flashlight head used to be.   
 Now we have a handle with a keystone sticking out the top.  If we  
 want to power a Motorola, we use a straight through cable.  If we  
 power Mikrotik, we use a short 2 jumper with a keystone at one end  
 (reverse the power blue/brown pairs) so it is a Male Female  
 extension.  I don't have pictures, but with Moto, just power the  
 unit with headphones for a site-survey...Takes like 10 minutes if  
 that.  Not lugging computers around.  AMAZING!!!

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]  
 On Behalf Of Ryan Spott
 Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 6:04 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt

 http://tranzeofaq.com/images/site_survey/images/

 ryan

 On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Eje Gustafsson e...@wisp-router.com  
 wrote:
 Look it got my Name on it even... =) Love it...

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- 
 boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 4:34 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt

 Look at the picture better.  It says patent pending.

 Zoomed in:
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/60247/IMG00079-20100108-1502-zoom.jpg

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources.
 --- Albert Einstein


 On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Eje Gustafsson e...@wisp- 
 router.com wrote:

 Ryobi one plus have a battery tester that would be simple to  
 modify for
 this
 very thing. I think they are less than $15 at HD.

 It's a cool idea now why didn't I think of that I love my Ryobi One 
 + tools
 ;) I better run and file the patent before Josh does for this cool  
 new
 Ryobi
 One+ accessory as well preventing Milwakiu and Dewalt users from  
 making a
 similar for their batteries ;)

 / Eje

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- 
 boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
 Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 3:10 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt

 Josh,

 Really cool. What a great idea to get a radio aligned and tested,  
 BEFORE
 the

 indoor CAT5 is finished.  How did you make the connector that the  
 Battery
 fit into? Or did you sabatage an old charger/drill?

 Truthfully though for reoccuring maintenance, I'd rather use the  
 Power
 supply that is already in the customers home, with a passive temp  
 junction
 box the majority of the time. Then I dont have to guess, check, or  
 keep
 track whether the MT SBC that is inside the enclosure is  
 configured for 
 20v, 24V, or 48V.  Its qwicker to just plug in, then to verify  
 config and
 then plug-in.  Sure if someone is back in the office, its a quick  
 call to
 find out, but taht is not always the case.

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message -
 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 3:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt


 Tom,

 Problem solved:
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/60247/IMG00079-20100108-1502.jpg
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/60247/IMG00081-20100108-1503.jpg

 That's a 24v power supply.  Works with Trango/Canopy ptmp stuff  
 (RP) and
 Mikrotik/Nanostations (the other way on the switch)

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources.
 --- Albert Einstein


 On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Tom DeReggi
 wirelessn...@rapiddsl.netwrote:

 What we'd really like to see if a 411 style board with a second
 Ethernet
 port.

 There is good reason for that.
 1) 433 boards dont fit in most Rootenna style or very low cost  
 cases
 2) There is a big cost different between 433Ah and basic 411, if
 serving
 residential.

 3) The second Etherenet port is needed for Maintenance.
a) When residential home owner is not home, to access the CPE.
 Provider's tech works days, Customer home at night :-(.
Its so much quicker to plug in tech laptop plug  
 directly to
 second ethernet port, than to run extention cords, new AC power  
 source,
 and
 no need to risk damaging a working POE Ethernet port 1 all  
 sealed up
 and
 functioning.
b) When initial install and alignment is done, it can be done
 easilly
 with Laptop 

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth limitation enforcement

2009-12-30 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Uh.. Dell GX150 i think? It has a celeron slow as heck processor. I  
found it near a dumpster at some point.

The license cost me $45.

Originally I used it to find the bandwidth hogs, now I control them  
with it.

Wonderful stuff I tell you!

ryan

On Dec 30, 2009, at 2:40 PM, Ugo Bellavance wrote:

 On 2009-12-30 16:38, Ryan Spott wrote:
 http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/TransparentTrafficShaper  will get  
 you
 started for pennies. Then you can grow from there.

 Thanks,

 Our firewall is a Pfsense and I think it can do something similar...

 What is the hardware required for the above setup?

 Regards,



 
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Re: [WISPA] Wimax gear

2009-12-30 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Hi RALPH!

ryan
On Dec 30, 2009, at 5:14 PM, Ralph wrote:

 Go ahead and live the dream then, but please don't homebuild your own
 gear and deploy it in any of my markets. We prefer certified products.

 On Dec 30, 2009, at 8:10 PM, e...@wisp-router.com wrote:

 You can use MikroTik and be legal.

 Anyone say any different either don't understand the rules or
 checked the approved certs or is just spreading FUD.

 /Eje
 Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

 -Original Message-
 From: Ralph ralphli...@bsrg.org
 Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:05:50
 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
 Cc: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wimax gear

 We have successfuly used ubiquiti nano and power stations as  
 injection
 radios for numerous tripod and cisco mesh systems. No problems.  Of
 course I have used canopy for it too- no real difference in the end
 performance.

 Would not use Mikrotik for any RF due to our desire to stay legal.

 On Dec 30, 2009, at 7:05 PM, Charles Wu c...@cticonnect.com wrote:

 I find these comparisons of products like Ubiquiti / Mikrotik vs.
 Motorola / WiMAX products to be somewhat unrealistic -- it seems to
 me that it's like comparing something that's hypothetical and looks
 good on paper and hoping that it will actually work

 Here's my question; sure, on paper, the new Ubiquiti WHATEVER will
 give me a Gazillion Mbps with Beamforming and everything for $10 --
 but has anyone actually made this stuff work and scaled it into a
 profitable business?

 Many of the WISPs that I've talked to who gone down this path have
 had to upgrade / replace / retool their networks due to the fact
 that these systems don't scale

 The one WISP that I know using Ubiquiti / Mikrotik with several
 thousand customers is only using them as endpoints on a Bel-Air
 Network Mesh infrastructure that they spent almost $1 million
 building out

 It reminds me of the Asterisk vs. Broadsoft / Metaswitch VoIP
 debates from a couple of years back -- sure, Asterisk was free
 while a Broadsoft platform had an entry cost of $250k, but I know of
 tons of Broadsoft providers who support tens of thousands of
 customers for hosted PBX, and the only guy I know doing it on
 Asterisk ended up spending over $500k hiring a custom programming
 team in Russia to rebuild the system for him from scratch (he was
 joking to me that in hindsight, it would've been cheaper and a lot
 easier to just buy a Broadsoft)

 I would like to be proven wrong here...so shoot =)

 -Charles



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Re: [WISPA] Being Rude to Customers

2009-12-22 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Alcoholism is the leading cause of rude customers. Quite a few  
customers on our network have a do not call after 8:3, 9:30, 10:20AM  
note because they are totally out of it.

Perfectly polite people before that time.. but after... WOW!

ryan


On Dec 22, 2009, at 12:27 PM, Robert West wrote:

 That's funny because I ended up having a conversation pretty much  
 like that
 with the wife.  Get a notebook and a pencil, write it down.  I took  
 it upon
 myself, after call number 5, to try to login to FaceBook with his  
 username
 and password, password was wrong, reset it, retrieved his email,  
 changed his
 password...  yada, yada, yada...  (I hate yada, yada, yada, by the  
 way)
 Wife tells me that she thinks he changed it last night when he was  
 drunk so
 that she couldn't get on his account.  But after all of that I hear...
 See, I told you it was their fault because he fixed it.  *sigh*  I  
 have to
 add that they are in their late 60's.


 Bob-


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]  
 On
 Behalf Of Scottie Arnett
 Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 3:11 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Being Rude to Customers

 Send him a gift wrapped notebook and pencil with Merry Chrismyassmas  
 written
 on it from just-micro.com. Include a note saying, With this, you  
 should
 never have a problem with remembering your passwords, if you just  
 use it.

 Scottie

 -- Original Message --
 From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
 Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Date:  Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:33:43 -0500

 Is it okay to say Merry Chrismyassmas to a customer who calls you  
 yelling
 because it's your fault he can't remember his Facebook password?   
 (Somehow
 I'm blocking his FaceBook password)



 Just wondering what my options are



 Robert West

 Just Micro Digital Services Inc.

 740-335-7020





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Re: [WISPA] Being Rude to Customers

2009-12-22 Thread D. Ryan Spott
HA! I have one better.. I get a VERY timid call from a non-customer in  
my small town

Her: hi, can you help me? Promise you won't laugh?
Me: sure, what do you need?
Her: Can you come by and fix my keyboard on my laptop? It got very wet  
and won't work now...
Me: Did you spill something on it?
Her: Promise not to laugh I have narcolepsy and I passed out on  
the keyboard and filled it with drool...
Me: I promised, but my tongue is bleeding now as I biting it to keep  
from laughing.

Turns out that saliva has some pretty good amounts of salt and sugar  
in it, had to buy a new keyboard from HP and install it for her.

She ended up passing out while driving a few months later.. I had to  
get her desktop background off her machine to print for her husband...  
Nice lady, ran the community.

ryan

On Dec 22, 2009, at 12:55 PM, Robert West wrote:

 I have one customer who burns up laptops.  Not from overheating or  
 whatever,
 but from cigarettes.  She sits in front of the laptop drinking and  
 smoking
 and passes out with the cigarette landing on the keyboard or against  
 the
 screen.  Has killed three in the past 2 years that way.  Sure, we  
 replace
 keyboards and lcd panels but eventually it dies from repeated  
 abuse.  Or
 beer being spilled on it.  Works for awhile until it gets fuzzy  
 inside.
 Yuck!

 Bob-



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]  
 On
 Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott
 Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 3:34 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Being Rude to Customers

 Alcoholism is the leading cause of rude customers. Quite a few
 customers on our network have a do not call after 8:3, 9:30, 10:20AM
 note because they are totally out of it.

 Perfectly polite people before that time.. but after... WOW!

 ryan


 On Dec 22, 2009, at 12:27 PM, Robert West wrote:

 That's funny because I ended up having a conversation pretty much
 like that
 with the wife.  Get a notebook and a pencil, write it down.  I took
 it upon
 myself, after call number 5, to try to login to FaceBook with his
 username
 and password, password was wrong, reset it, retrieved his email,
 changed his
 password...  yada, yada, yada...  (I hate yada, yada, yada, by the
 way)
 Wife tells me that she thinks he changed it last night when he was
 drunk so
 that she couldn't get on his account.  But after all of that I  
 hear...
 See, I told you it was their fault because he fixed it.  *sigh*  I
 have to
 add that they are in their late 60's.


 Bob-


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
 Behalf Of Scottie Arnett
 Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 3:11 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Being Rude to Customers

 Send him a gift wrapped notebook and pencil with Merry Chrismyassmas
 written
 on it from just-micro.com. Include a note saying, With this, you
 should
 never have a problem with remembering your passwords, if you just
 use it.

 Scottie

 -- Original Message --
 From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
 Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Date:  Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:33:43 -0500

 Is it okay to say Merry Chrismyassmas to a customer who calls you
 yelling
 because it's your fault he can't remember his Facebook password?
 (Somehow
 I'm blocking his FaceBook password)



 Just wondering what my options are



 Robert West

 Just Micro Digital Services Inc.

 740-335-7020






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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Nanostation NSM5

2009-12-16 Thread D. Ryan Spott
You will have 1 container less to count if the shipment comes in at  
the right time! :)

ryan


On Dec 16, 2009, at 5:58 PM, Eje Gustafsson wrote:

 Yepp that is the shipment with the antennas. I thought the antennas  
 was on
 the shipment we were to receive last week but it's on the shipment  
 that is
 still on its way hopefully should be in no later than next week  
 because we
 want to ship as many out we can before we close for inventory between
 Christmas and new years. Hopefully we will just be closed for no  
 more than 2
 days there but could be longer depending how the count will go.

 / Eje
 WISP-Router, Inc.
 Follow us on twitter.com/wisprouter

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]  
 On
 Behalf Of Scott Piehn
 Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 7:51 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Nanostation NSM5

 Any idea if you have antennas on that shipment, the 16-120s in  
 particular

 
 Scott Piehn
 - Original Message -
 From: Eje Gustafsson e...@wisp-router.com
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 7:27 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Nanostation NSM5


 Last weeks shipment is all gone of the NSM5's but another container  
 is
 following closely behind hopefully should have it in next week.

 / Eje
 WISP-Router, Inc.
 Follow us on twitter.com/wisprouter

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- 
 boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Robert West
 Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 5:57 PM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Nanostation NSM5

 You can check with CTI, I talked to them Monday and they had a few  
 but had
 to buy 4 or 5 to get them.



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- 
 boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Matt
 Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 6:48 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Nanostation NSM5

 Anyone have the Ubiquiti Nanostation NSM5 in stock?

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Re: [WISPA] Telephones such. Was:Not About Health Insurance

2009-12-09 Thread D. Ryan Spott
On some smart-phones you can set them so only the people in your  
address book get CID. Everyone else is blocked.

ryan


On Dec 9, 2009, at 9:59 PM, RickG wrote:

 Yes on VZW. Now that may be the way to go. I tried blocking CID but  
 hated
 that my wife  son didnt know it was me calling. Thanks!

 On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 11:17 PM, Patrick Shoemaker 
 shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com wrote:

 If you are using a VZW cell phone, you can disable outgoing CID for  
 all
 calls. It can be re-enabled on a per-call basis using *82.

 Patrick Shoemaker
 Vector Data Systems LLC
 shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com
 office: (301) 358-1690 x36
 http://www.vectordatasystems.com

 Josh Luthman wrote:
 I won't help you spoof CID but I can help you with the user thing.

 On 12/9/09, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
 Or spoof your caller ID to something outrageous like the seafood
 department
 at Kroger.

 Just a thought.



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- 
 boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:30 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Telephones  such. Was:Not About Health Insurance

 Well, either one of those are good ideas but I'm more in the 11th
 commandment Thou shalt not hassle. Call me lazy but I make way  
 too
 many
 calls to add even more digits. I'll go for your second suggestion  
 when I
 get
 the time. Thanks!

 On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Josh Luthman
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:

 Simply *67 if you call from your cell phone.

 Or if you're like me use the remote phone feature.  You use your  
 phone
 to
 call your work phone, then issue commands to have the work phone  
 call
 someone.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources.
 --- Albert Einstein


 On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 1:31 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com  
 wrote:

 Ya, I put a stop to that quick.

 The only number I've ever given is my office number. The bad  
 thing
 about
 caller ID is they collect your cell number when you call them.  
 To fix
 that,
 I got a second line and have no voicemail on it.

 LOL, you can always send them to rejectionhotline.com!

 -RickG


 On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 wrote:
 To your house?  Now that's just creepy.

 What I've always done is given them this number - 9375522343.   
 It's a
 DID
 on
 L3 and routes to our switch.

 The switch and such makes it ring to my user, Josh Luthman.   
 My
 user
 is
 built on a Cisco 79xx phone.  If my phone is OOS it goes  
 straight to
 my
 cell.  If I don't answer it and I am not on the phone, it auto
 forwards
 to
 my cell.  If I have it on DND straight to VM.

 I tell customers that one number is the only number you need  
 is the
 main
 number, but if you need me specifically then call 2343 and  
 I'll help
 you
 as
 soon as I can.

 On those special nights just tap the DND button and I'm
 disconnected.
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources.
 --- Albert Einstein


 On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 12:59 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com  
 wrote:

 Every customer had my cell number but it became way too much  
 burden.
 Nothing
 like being interupted while enjoying a movie because theire  
 laptop
 wont
 connect to their wireless router. Oh ya, I even got the  
 proverbial
 my
 mouse wont work last week! My greeting even said, please  
 call the
 office
 but everyone thinks they are special. So, after 5 years, I  
 finally
 changed
 my cell number and force them to call into the office. Ah,  
 life is
 sooo
 much
 better! Now, all I have to do is move so they stop coming to my
 house!
 -RickG

 On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Robert West 
 robert.w...@just-micro.com
 wrote:
 I stated my own business because I wanted a flexible schedule.

 Hmm..  180+ hours a week, 6 days officially in the  
 office
 yet
 doing
 installs and such, on Sunday, well.  Hanging sectors,  
 running
 cable,
 walking around Home Depot looking for ideas on how to build  
 the
 impossible,
 welding, drilling...  And answering the cell phone!

 Vacation?  I'm with ya.  No vacation for ME for over 3 years  
 yet
 the
 wife
 went to on one for almost a month last summer.  And I  
 continued
 having
 my
 flexible schedule.

 I hate the cell phone.  HATE IT!

 Bob-




 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:
 wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
 Behalf Of MDK
 Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:28 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Not About Health Insurance

 Yahh... Me too.   It's a small one.   My customers have my  
 cell
 phone
 number.

 We have lost more customers to home sales than any other  
 factor (
 we
 picked
 up some of the buyers, though, 

Re: [WISPA] Fixing buried cable

2009-12-08 Thread D. Ryan Spott
If you are running more than 6-7mbits then use some other splice or  
replace the whole cable.

If you are running less than this, then most any splice will work. :)

ryan



On Dec 8, 2009, at 2:45 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com  
wrote:

 I think anything you do, as long as the conductors are connected and
 protected from the weather will be fine.  Just keep as many twists  
 in the
 wire as you can.  I've made some pretty nasty splices in the past  
 and they
 all worked perfectly.  I just have a thing about looking  
 professional and
 not like duct tape and twine.  But that stuff works too!



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]  
 On
 Behalf Of Scott Reed
 Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 5:40 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fixing buried cable

 Ugly isn't an issue as the cable is so short I want dig up a foot of  
 it,
 re-splice it and bury the splice.

 Robert West wrote:
 I've used those 3-m or scotch crimp button connectors before, got a  
 box of
 them still in the van.  It's really ugly though and you have to  
 make sure
 you keep as many twists in the wire as you can.  But then you still  
 have
 to
 seal it all and RTV would be my choice.  If I had to, and if I had  
 any
 slack, stick the splice down a short tube of maybe PVC and pump it  
 full of
 silicone.  Still an ugly way to go.

 Bob-



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- 
 boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Scott Reed
 Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 5:19 PM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: [WISPA] Fixing buried cable

 I have a customer that cut the cat 5 right at the ground in  
 September.
 I put a jack at the ground and a plug on the remaining cable and  
 wrapped
 it up as well as I could, knowing I would be back. Sure enough,  
 today I
 went back to re-fix it in the sleet.  What fun.  I think it is better
 because I used a cat5 splice device and filled it  with RTV.
 Anyone have a way to fix a cable that is underground?  I would rather
 not run a new cable and make her bury another one if there is  
 another way.



 -- 
 Scott Reed
 Sr. Systems Engineer
 GAB Midwest
 1-800-363-1544 x4000
 Cell: 260-273-7239



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Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo TR-902 Firmware

2009-12-01 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Can you be more specific?

ryan



On Dec 1, 2009, at 3:00 PM, NGL n...@ngl.net wrote:

 Has anyone had problems with the new Firmware  TR6-5.0.2Rt?
 If so what and what is the fix?


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Re: [WISPA] Cat3 instead of Cat5

2009-11-18 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Rick,

Do you provide 100mbps service to consumer level connections via  
wireless links?

If I can get 4-12mbits down a cat3 or telco wire for a home user then  
then I'll probably go for it. ;)

Ryan



On Nov 18, 2009, at 9:06 AM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:

 Those old phone line units could only do 1Mbps.
 My question was: Can anyone show me reliable equipment that will do  
 100Mbps+
 on cat 3? Not according to this:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_3_cable or my experience. If  
 such an
 animal exists, I could use it, which is why I asked.
 We may be in game of semantics here. Can you get 100Mbps? I suppose  
 a short
 cable on the bench might do it but not in the field reliably. In my
 experience, in order to get a reliable connection over cat 3, I had  
 to lock
 down the switch ports to 10Mbps. I would never claim to know it all  
 but I've
 been around the block a time or two. The windings are to cancel out  
 EMF
 which can cause errors that affect speed due to transmission  
 retries. The
 speed capability of a cable is due to the quality of its wire rating -
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_5_cable and
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_6_cable
 Obviously, by utilizing more that 2 pair, you can do some interesting
 things.
 -RickG


 On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:58 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com 
 wrote:

 Phone line is twisted pair and normally 2 pair.  Transmit and  
 receive.  Can
 easily do 100mbps.  You could even get it to do gigabit with not much
 effort.  No PoE though, no pair for that. HOWEVER, the problems  
 come from
 the nasty connections everyone including the phone company has  
 made.  Most
 phone line isn't clean like a network cable you would run.  Who  
 knows
 where the hell the splices and rodent chewed ends are at and if  
 they stick
 with a common wiring scheme throughout the structure.  If it was  
 the best
 option, you could at least test and give up quickly if it fell on  
 its face.

 There used to be some home networking nics that used the phone  
 lines in the
 home and you could also use the phones with the things connected.   
 That was
 in the late 1990's, early 2000.  Some Gateway desktops came with  
 them.  I
 never saw them used though.

 Bob-




 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- 
 boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 12:02 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cat3 instead of Cat5

 That would be great! But, I cant find anything on the net except  
 references
 to the standard being 10Mbps:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_3_cable
 Any examples?

 On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 9:38 PM, Kevin Neal ke...@safelink.net  
 wrote:

 With the right equipment I've heard of gigabit over rusted old  
 barbwire!

 -Kevin


 On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 7:32 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
 100Mbps on cat 3? Really?

 On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Forbes Mercy
 forbes.me...@wabroadband.comwrote:

 We currently run a Cat5 into the wall then put a jack into the  
 house.
 My question is since you can get 100MB through a Cat3 which is the
 same
 as a phone line why can't we run the connection into their phone  
 line?
 Most of our customers have cell phone only and their internal  
 wiring
 is
 virtually unused.

 Thanks,
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Re: [WISPA] Nano Sation 2

2009-11-12 Thread D. Ryan Spott
I have been hearing 'bout that '1-2 week period' for about 10 weeks now.

Ryan



On Nov 12, 2009, at 3:13 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just- 
micro.com wrote:

 Wlanparts has it.  I also got an email from Ben over at Ubiquiti who  
 says
 ...the big volumes haven't landed yet...There are some that have  
 hit over
 the past couple of days, but the big volumes will be hitting in that  
 1-2
 week period.

 Bob-


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]  
 On
 Behalf Of Nick Olsen
 Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 5:18 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nano Sation 2

 Where from?
 Or was this a case of Nick not being able to detect internet sarcasm.

 Nick Olsen
 Brevard Wireless
 (321) 205-1100 x106


 

 From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
 Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 4:10 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nano Sation 2

 The boat has arrived..!  Shesh  I was able to order so
 much
 that now I have to find a way to hide it from the wife.

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]  
 On
 Behalf Of Data Technology
 Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:38 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nano Sation 2

 I think they need a bigger boat!!

 Robert West wrote:
 Yeah, but I call them by a different name,
 Microtik411RS2CardPacGridOutdoorEnclosure.   It's gotten to the point
 that
 my substitute for the NS2 has actually become in use more than  
 what it
 has
 been substituted for.  *sigh*

 Word has it they're on the boat.  Always on the boat.

 Bob-


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- 
 boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Steve Barnes
 Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 9:25 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Nano Sation 2

 Need NS2's anyone have them?



 Steve Barnes
 Manager
 PCS-WINhttp://www.pcswin.com/
 RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Servicehttp://www.rcwifi.com/

 Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through  
 experience
 of
 trial and suffering can the soul be strengthened, vision cleared,
 ambition
 inspired, and success achieved.
 - Helen Keller


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 Behalf Of Lists
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 WISP
 sort of attracts the vets.  It is the business of going where no  
 one has
 gone before, making it work and storming the path.

 I want to say, Thank you for your Service and it was an honor to  
 serve!
 To all you USMC vets, Semper Fi!

 God bless,
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Re: [WISPA] Metered Billing

2009-11-09 Thread D. Ryan Spott
When I setup metering for the colo I used to work for we bought in  
$15k in overages a month. It was great!

Ryan



On Nov 7, 2009, at 10:59 AM, Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.net  
wrote:

 With the proper setup the network complexity does not change.  Why  
 would
 I want to give up additional revenue?

 Travis Johnson wrote:
 10% of your customers will use 90% of your resources. Direct that 10%
 customer base to cable or DSL and stop worrying about adding  
 complexity
 to your network.

 Travis
 Microserv

 Chuck Profito wrote:

 Marlon does this and smiles every time he signs a Bandwidth Hog!

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- 
 boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Eric Rogers
 Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 4:56 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Metered Billing

 We are on the verge of changing to a metered or tiered billing  
 structure
 with Caps that once they exceed the cap; it doesn't shut off, but  
 they
 get charged the overage.  Netflix is getting out of control and I  
 don't
 want to punish the customers that only use it occasionally.  I think
 they are very innovative solutions and don't want to hinder new
 applications.  I just want people that download 160 GB in a month,  
 when
 the average is nearly 10 GB a month, to pay their share for  
 expanding
 the network.



 Who has dabbled in the metered/tiered services and what were your
 customers responses?

 What are your tiers?

 Have attitudes changed toward your company as being greedy?



 We already have everything in place to do it, just need to send  
 out the
 letter saying we are doing it and why.



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 Precision Data Solutions, LLC

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Re: [WISPA] Buffering video.

2009-10-15 Thread D. Ryan Spott
On Youtube, right click and change the buffer to infinity.

You have to do this for each website. *.youtube.com, *.youporn.com  
etc...

ryan


On Oct 15, 2009, at 8:22 PM, Mike wrote:

 How come the Windows video codecs don't buffer before playing?  If
 youtube videos stutter, I hear about it.  Is there a video buffering
 software you use and recommend?  The algorithm to figure out
 buffering would be trivial. I have speedbit installed but am less  
 than pleased.

 Mike




 
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Re: [WISPA] Competitor at -40

2009-10-13 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Ha!

I have a pic of a competitor pointing a 13db 900 MHz panel at my  
gear.  30 feet away at the same colo site!

ryan



On Oct 13, 2009, at 11:41 AM, Jeremy Parr jeremyp...@gmail.com wrote:

 Gotta love it. Picking up another wisps overamped Omni at -40 with a
 16dbi panel, pointed *away* from them. I thought this was supposed to
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Re: [WISPA] To G or not to G :-)

2009-10-04 Thread D. Ryan Spott
(below is from http://en.allexperts.com/e/i/ie/ieee_802.11e.htm)

HCCA: The HCCA works a lot like the PCF: the interval between two  
beacon frames is divided into two periods, the CFP and the CP. During  
the CFP, the Hybrid Coordinator (HC) controls the access to the  
medium. During the CP, all stations function in EDCA. The main  
difference with the PCF is that Traffic Classes (TC) are defined.  
Also, the HC can coordinate the traffic in any fashion it chooses (not  
just round-robin). Moreover, the stations give info about the lengths  
of their queues for each Traffic Class (TC). The HC can use this info  
to give priority to one station over another. Another difference is  
that stations are given a TXOP: they may send multiple packets in a  
row, for a given time period selected by the HC. During the CP, the HC  
allows stations to send data by sending CF-Poll frames.

---

PCF: The original 802.11 MAC defines another coordination function  
called the Point Coordination Function (PCF): this is available only  
in infrastructure mode, where stations are connected to the network  
through an Access Point (AP). This mode is optional, and only very few  
APs or Wi-Fi adapters actually implement it. APs send beacon frames  
at regular intervals (usually every 0.1 second). Between these beacon  
frames, PCF defines two periods: the Contention Free Period (CFP) and  
the Contention Period (CP). In CP, the DCF is simply used. In CFP, the  
AP sends Contention Free-Poll (CF-Poll) packets to each station, one  
at a time, to give them the right to send a packet. The AP is the  
coordinator. This allows for a better management of the QoS.  
Unfortunately, the PCF has limited support and a number of limitations  
(for example, it does not define classes of traffic).

HCCA is generally considered the most advanced (and complex)  
coordination function. With the HCCA, QoS can be configured with great  
precision. QoS-enabled stations have the ability to request specific  
transmission parameters (data rate, jitter, etc.) which should allow  
advanced applications like VoIP and video streaming to work more  
effectively on a Wi-Fi network.

HCCA support is not mandatory for 802.11e APs. In fact, few (if any)  
APs currently available are enabled for HCCA. The Wi-Fi Alliance has a  
forthcoming certification (WMM Scheduled Access) that will allow  
network integrators to easily distinguish APs that allow HCCA.

---
(below is just from my limited knowlege)

PA: Power Amplifier

---
(below is from 
http://www.wirelessdictionary.com/wireless_dictionary_UMTS_LTE_PAPR_Definition.html
 
 )

PAPR: Peak to Average Power Ratio; Peak to average power ratio is a  
comparison of the peak power detected over a period of sample time to  
the average power level that occurs over the same time period. SC-FDMA  
has a lower PAPR as compared to other radio channel structures such as  
OFDMA.

---
(below is from http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1069514 and 
http://www.gigascale.org/pubs/1333.html 
 )

EVM: In digital radio applications, error-vector-magnitude (EVM) is  
the primary specification which quantifies the performance of digital  
modulation implemented in silicon.

In production testing of wireless systems, measurement of EVM (a  
critical spec that is directly related to bit error rate) incurs  
significant test time due to the large numbers of symbols that need to  
be transmitted for reasons of accuracy. In our approach, EVM is  
modeled as a function of the system static non-idealities (IQ  
mismatch, gain, IIP3 parameters) and dynamic non-idealities (system  
noise, VCO phase noise). Using a selected subset of the OFDM tones,  
the static parameters are calculated first. These are then used to  
facilitate noise estimation using a back-end constellation  
compensation and noise amplification procedure.

---


NOW! with that out of the way, let's all put our guns, arrows,  
cannons, swords, phallic members and the great and powerful REPLY-ALL  
keys (http://www.kirikiri.com/that/reply.gif) away and THANK the non- 
member/non-usual poster for his time and information!

Lawrence, thanks so much for this posting. A little homework on my/our  
part using http://lmgtfy.com/?q=802.11+specs really clued me in on  
some things I have to take into account when doing installs and  
growing my customer base.

And the rest of you! It is Sunday morning, you should all still be in  
your underwear drinking coffee taking a day off! :) Just think of me  
at 4000 feet building a repeater shed as the snow starts to fall  
and have a great day!

ryan


On Oct 4, 2009, at 

Re: [WISPA] OT - Text Messages

2009-09-29 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Nah, she is not screwed up.

My 6 year old has already told me she wants to 'play antenna' like  
daddy when she grows up.

She also wants to drive the bucket truck as her car when she learns to  
drive!

ryan



On Sep 29, 2009, at 8:14 AM, St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.com 
  wrote:

 And the below message proves that my txt skills are off...(however I
 corrected it;)

 What really blows my mind is that she does not want book learning  
 she
 wants to be an entrepreneur, or a tower climber...I am not sure that  
 she
 know the meaning of either.
 I tell her that is an entrepreneur is job that does not pay too well.

 And tower climbing is a cool job but, by State law, cannot text.

 Gawd, I screwed her up...lol.

 V

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]  
 On
 Behalf Of St. Louis Broadband
 Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 10:03 AM
 To: 'Robert West'; 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT - Text Messages

 Her head start that we figured was going to let her take the lead of  
 the
 pack, came to a slamming halt.
 I am not sure really what it was, but that is when I noticed the txt  
 msg
 addiction.
 And I truly believe it is an addiction, she sleeps with the damn  
 phone next
 to her...

 Teenage girls are amazing.
 It really ticks me that she is actually more computer literate than  
 I in
 some applications.
 When I am trying to figure it out, she looks at me like omg...mom is  
 so
 slow.
 She can key over 100wpm and is accurate.

 V


 -Original Message-
 From: Robert West [mailto:robert.w...@just-micro.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:44 AM
 To: li...@stlbroadband.com; 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT - Text Messages

 Oh hell, sounds like my daughter.  Sailed right through school, top  
 of the
 class.  Top 3% in the SATs and now, starting 3rd year in college, she
 finally discovered boys.  The talk with her has moved from school to  
 having
 boyfriend injected in every conversation.  And I still have no met  
 him.
 Scary.



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]  
 On
 Behalf Of St. Louis Broadband
 Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 12:27 AM
 To: n...@brevardwireless.com; 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT - Text Messages

 LOL, u assume wrong.  She started junior college when she was 16 and  
 made
 the deans list her first semester J

 But now she is 18 and has discovered or been discovered by boys.



 V



 From: Nick Olsen [mailto:n...@brevardwireless.com]
 Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 11:20 PM
 To: li...@stlbroadband.com; WISPA General List
 Subject: re: [WISPA] OT - Text Messages



 Talk about Getting your moneys worth in the unlimited text package.
 Without a package its 25 a message, Which would have made your bill  
 your
 standard monthly charge plus $7,625. .25x30500

 I think the bigger question is. How much time is your daughter wasting
 texting while in school?
 /me assumes shes in highschool at 18 (senior I figure).

 Nick Olsen
 Brevard Wireless
 (321) 205-1100 x106



  _

 From: St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.com
 Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 12:09 AM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] OT - Text Messages

 I am reviewing my ATT wireless bill. I have myself, my mother and my
 daughter on a family plan.

 My mother received 8 text messages, which I am sure she does not  
 know that
 she has.
 I received 297 text messages. Some of those were forwards from another
 email account.

 However, my 18 year old daughter received 30,500 text messages!

 How can this be? How can they type on a qwerty board, or actual phone
 keypad faster than I on a laptop/computer?

 She has a facebook account, a twitter, and many other accounts/tech  
 that I
 am not familiar with.
 Is this a sign of the times or of my age?

 I started in the Internet industry in 1993. I remember my first AOL  
 annual
 bill totaling over $5k and this was for 28.8 kbps.
 That is when I figured that this industry was going to be  
 profitable...darn
 me for daring to going into fixed wireless.

 Just had to rant...30,500 txt msgs...omg!

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[WISPA] Mountaintop Propane...

2009-09-02 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Hello,

While this is not necessarily a WISP issue, I would like to lean on the 
experience of the WISPs and wireless operators on these lists.

I am building a new repeater site on the top of a 4K foot peak. I have 
my solar worked out and I am augmenting it with a TEG. The TEG burns 
propane and I have an excellent lead and cost for both the fuel and the 
storage vessel.

However, I have to pipe the propane 200 feet up from the nearest 
location that a tank can be sited to the location of energy use. The 
slope is all baby-head sized rock and is 30-35*. My local plumber is 
taking a look at the situation now but I am interested in what all of 
you have seen in your travels.

My plumber is concerned about:
*The pipe shearing off as it is above ground and there is significant 
snow in the winter.
 We plan to run it through some onsite trees along the ridgeline so 
we have some support against shifting snow.
 I plan on pouring footings for supports with rollers for expansion, 
contraction and rubbing against rocks.
*Vandalism and leakage.
 This site is 1000 feet from the nearest 'decent' road. I find that 
vandals, when required to walk... don't.
 If the pipe 'springs a leak' is there some sort of valve I can 
purchase that says: If flow X, then shut down!
My plumber is a Lt in my Fire Dept. so Adapt and Overcome is our common 
mantra.


If any of you have experience with this sort of setup, please, drop me a 
line... pictures are worth thousands of words as well.

Thanks so much,

ryan



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Re: [WISPA] Changing cards in Mikrotik - now Safety First

2009-08-25 Thread D. Ryan Spott
I think IIFSTA and the NFPA (while gathering lots of $$) helped quite a 
bit more than OSHA. :)

ryan

Forbes Mercy wrote:
 I have to agree here, I've done more tower climbs alone than I should.
 Every time I do I'm filled with the feeling that if I fall no one will
 know until someone comes looking at my remote tower site the next day or
 so.

 We all look at OSHA sometimes and think of them as more revenue officers
 than safety officers.  Coming from the Fire Service I think of the
 countless lives of Firefighters that were saved once OSHA found us.
 Sure they seem overly picky and arbitrary but when I hang from my bucket
 truck without a harness or climb a tower alone I can't help but think
 they were written after so many people lost their lives.  This job isn't
 worth my life.

 Forbes

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of jp
 Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 10:24 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Changing cards in Mikrotik

 You should have someone with you on site when you climb towers. 

 Even if you are self employed and not subject to OSHA rules, it's still 
 a good idea. Most of the tower deaths or falls I read about very likely 
 could have been prevented or lessened with even very modest safety 
 guidelines. Futhermore, if you become some statistic used to calculate 
 insurance rates as a result of unsafe climbing, it will tend make all of

 our workers comp insurance costs increase collectively.

 That person on the ground should have a laptop to do the
 configuring/testing.
 They can also keep others away from the tower to protect them from 
 falling tools, read off signals while aligning antennas, answer your 
 phone calls, destroy wasp nests, and all the other things you don't want

 to do.

 On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 11:42:35AM -0500, Data Technology wrote:
   
 Yes I know it is easy to just sit down and configure the card but,
 I do the tower climbing myself and with even a small 40-60 ft tower,
 
 by 
   
 the time you get down, get the gear off and get to a computer the 
 adrenalin is flowing and you may tend to make a mistake.  And after a 
 160 ft tower you (me) are more tired and you can overlook something
 
 that 
   
 you would normally catch in an instance.

 I guess there are pros and cons to both ways.

 LaRoy


 Scott Carullo wrote:
 
 It takes less than one minute to configure an interface?

 Just because you put a like card in there doesn't mean ROS should
   
 assume 
   
 its the same freq, same power output etc.  I think its actually
   
 better it 
   
 lets you set it up instead of assuming a like replacement.  My 2
   
 cents
   
 Scott Carullo
 Brevard Wireless
 321-205-1100 x102

  Original Message 
   
   
 From: Data Technology w...@dtisp.com
 Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 12:19 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Changing cards in Mikrotik

 As much as I Love Mikrotik, I HATE the fact that you have to
 
 reconfigure 
   
 
 
   
   
 when you change out a card.
 I don't see why Mikrotik did not design it to work like StarOS.

 I have 1 StarOS AP still running and I had to change out a CM9 that
 
 went 
   
 
 
   
   
 out.
 This AP has not been touched in probably 4 years.
 I just took out the old card, put in the new one and the users were
 

   
 passing traffic before I could close the lid.
 This was one of the few good things I liked about StarOS.

 Ok, just feels good to rant and rave every now and then.

 LaRoy McCann
 Data Technology
 www.dtisp.com



 
 
 
 
   
 
   
   
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[WISPA] Mountain Top Grounding

2009-08-23 Thread D. Ryan Spott
I have a site I am putting in on a mountain-top consisting of stacked  
rocks.  Well, they were stacked by glaciers, Techtonic movements,  
Paul Bunyan etc... Mostly 6-30 across with bedrock downthere  
somewhere.


Do any of you have a site like this? How did you or the site owner  
ground the site? I don't see grounding rods working really well.

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Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?

2009-08-21 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Most of the GPS capability on cell phones is quasi GPS using cell  
tower locations to give location data.

When there is only 1 cell tower in the area, it is sorta hard to do  
triangulation!

ryan

On Aug 21, 2009, at 5:45 AM, Scott Reed wrote:

 Because 1/2 the cell phones on the planet don't have GPS
 Because not everyone carries a cell phone.
 Because sometimes it may be necessary to have the cell phone to talk  
 on
 while looking at the GPS.


 Curtis Maurand wrote:
 Good God, half the cell phones on the planet have GPS built into  
 them.
 I used a Motorola Razr as a GPS on my last trip to Virginia a  
 couple of
 years ago.  iPhones and Blackberry's and Palm Pre's have them and the
 ability to link them to Google Maps.  Job's done.

 Why carry a separate GPS?  I don't get it.

 --Curtis

 Robert West wrote:

 I'm finally getting rid of my Delorme Earthmate GPS unit.  It has  
 served me
 well these past 10 years.  I will certainly miss  
 having to
 boot up my laptop, plug the thing into the serial port of my OLD  
 laptop
 because the newer ones do not have the serial port and to use that  
 USB to
 serial adapter is more fun that I could handle  Then hope and  
 pray that
 the batteries in the Earthmate are still good for I always forget  
 to check
 before I go out  But with that said, I need a  
 replacement.

 I've been looking at some small Garmin all weather units but they  
 seem to
 stress geo-caching and hiking.  If I had time for that, it may get  
 my
 attention, but I own a small business that I started because I  
 needed to be
 more flexible with my time.  Working 80 hours+ a week is about as  
 flexible
 as it gets so no, I do not have time for that sort of crazy, high  
 on life
 sort of living.

 I simply need a GPS that I won't break (or be too badly damaged)  
 when I drop
 it off a 70 foot AP (it will happen, trust me), that will not be  
 ruined when
 I forget it on the top of the same AP and go home and it just  
 happens to
 rain overnight, can be recharged in the van and will give me the  
 two pieces
 of information I really desire.  My location coordinates  
 and how
 high I am.  Someone else can mess with all those other functions,  
 I'd have
 to give it to my 4 year old to figure that stuff out anyhow, I  
 just need to
 know where and how high.

 Anyone have a good recommendation on a handheld GPS unit?  (I  
 guess I could
 have just said one line but it's not as fun)

 Thanks in advance.

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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Redirect

2009-08-12 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Someone on the list had a story about causing a panic when a screen  
with you didn't pay your bill was flashed to an early morning  
employee.

I guess they thought the company was shutting down.

Now the page just says: Please contact us.

ryan


On Aug 12, 2009, at 1:08 PM, Jason Wallace wrote:

 Could someone sue for this?

 In a pizza shop in a town I used to live by, there was a wall of  
 shame where they posted all
 bounced checks for everyone to see with a little sign at the top  
 that if your check bounced it
 would be posted there until you paid up.  I would never do it, but  
 it was a great incentive!

 Jason

 Jonathan Schmidt wrote:

 Yes, Mike, it isn't the same as sending a letter...even if the  
 color of
 the envelope is indicative of some situation.  Nevertheless, the  
 legal
 rules are very strict...nobody but the addressee can open it.

 When you put something on every screen on every PC using a  
 subscriber's
 account and reveal any financial matter, especially an embarrassing  
 one, a
 hot head may, when enraged, do all sorts of things...especially  
 if the
 mistake isn't theirs (which is a small but possible event).

 If you can get the account holder to sign into a Web site with their
 assigned USERNAME and PASSWORD...that's OK and you can exchange
 confidential information.  If you can get them to call, that's OK  
 (...can
 I have your name and last 4 digits of your SS#?).

 Creating a gated garden which allows an immediate click-to- 
 restore but
 states that a situation exists that requires the account holder to  
 call a
 phone number is OK since it doesn't slander the account holder (maybe
 mistakenly), can verify the account holder, and, if the message  
 screen is
 only on port 80 and doesn't stop the VoIP phone from accessing 911,  
 etc.,
 there is no jeopardy.  And, that screen can come more and more
 frequently...maybe every 5 minutes until they call.

 ...just a further thought.

 . . . j o n a t h a n
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- 
 boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 11:27 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Redirect

 You're correct with the liability thing...  it sucks that people  
 sue over
 such petty things.


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: Jonathan Schmidt jeschm...@jeschmidt.com
 Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 6:38 PM
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Redirect


 There is some potential liability in this.

 You don't know if friends are visiting and using the  
 computer...or, the
 subscriber has an Wi-Fi w/o WAP/WEP and others are (potentially
 accidentally) using it.  In any case, you could be slandering the
 subscriber by calling them deadbeats to other people.

 It seems more polite to hit them over and over or persistantly  
 with a
 demand that they contact a phone number to address a problem with  
 their
 subscription.  It also may stop a law suit...a typical response  
 from a
 real deadbeat.

 Cutting off the service is an option but it may enrage the person to
 never do business with that company again.  What you need to do is

 talk

 with them without slandering them.

 ...just a thought...

 . . . J o n a t h a n


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- 
 boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of sa...@michianawireless.com
 Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 6:03 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Redirect

 Well. We kinda do this now. When a customer get to far out. We  
 manually
 add a rule to the router at the tower site he is connected to that
 redirects all his port 80 traffic to a webpage that says  
 basically, You
 didn't pay you bill for a long time and you need to contact us and  
 make

 a

 payment to before your web surfing will be available again. Email  
 still
 works, etc...

 We will still do that. But what I am trying to accomplish is to  
 have my
 billing system log into the client as soon as is hits 31+ in the  
 billing
 system and set a rule on the router board that will now occasionally
 interrupt the clients web browsing by redirecting them to a page  
 letting
 them know they are now 31+ past due and offer them the chance to pay

 now.

 If they chose to not pay now, they can just continue with what  
 they were
 doing. This way they are always in the know that they are behind  
 and

 are

 presented with a way to cure that immediately. Again since the  
 client is
 not way behind I just want the surfing to be redirect occasionally.

 Next step would be after this is gone on and they hit 40 days the  
 next
 script would be ran where it redirects all there web traffic

 indefinitely

 to the pay your bill page until paid.

 I hope that explains it better.

 Thanks,
 John

 - Original Message 

Re: [WISPA] work order software

2009-08-10 Thread D. Ryan Spott
zendesk.com

Wonderful. :) Free or really cheap.

ryan


On Aug 10, 2009, at 7:08 PM, RickG wrote:

 Any idea of price? -RickG

 On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Curtis Maurandcmaur...@xyonet.com  
 wrote:

 I kind of like this one.

 http://www.accord5.com/trellis



 Jason Hensley wrote:
 We use Wombat that is built in to Platypus.  Inexpensive is a  
 relative term
 :-)  For us, it's well worth the $99/mth that we pay for it. For  
 others,
 that may not be worth it at all.



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 To: fai...@snappydsl.net; WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] work order software

 I'm looking for an inexpensive work order management solution. - 
 RickG


 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo 900 Latency

2009-08-08 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Remember that you can do these changes from the command line with Curl!

Use Curl to do something like this:
curl -m 10 -u username:password 
http://1.2.3.4/set_config.cgi?wireless.beacon_period=1000admin.cmd=store
curl -m 10 -u username:password http://1.2.3.4/set_config.cgi?admin.cmd=reboot

No Curl? Do it by hand? (excel is your friend here to gen up a big  
list of URLs to click.
http://username:passw...@1.2.3.4/set_config.cgi?wireless.beacon_period=1000admin.cmd=store
http://username:passw...@1.2.3.4/set_config.cgi?admin.cmd=reboot

Wanna verify that everything is cool a few minutes later Run these 3  
lines and then check out test1.txt for the ones you missed.
curl -m 10 -u username:password http://1.2.3.4/download_config.cgi |  
grep device_name  test1.txt
curl -m 10 -u username:password http://1.2.3.4/download_config.cgi |  
grep net.ip_address  test1.txt
curl -m 10 -u username:password http://1.2.3.4/download_config.cgi |  
grep wireless.beacon_period  test1.txt

ryan


On Aug 7, 2009, at 6:45 AM, John Scrivner wrote:

 Thanks for all these good tips. The items below are the things we  
 have tried
 so far with no success. We are using smaller channels, H-pol.  
 Filters have
 not helped the problem, noise floor is actually pretty good, C/I of  
 about 20
 on most CPE.. We are going to try the two setting changes that  
 Daniel and
 Tom advised in other posts relating to beacon and RTS on clients. I  
 will
 report our results.
 Thanks to all!
 Scriv


 On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 9:33 AM, 3-dB Networks wi...@3-db.net wrote:

 What does your noise floor look like? C/I?
 Have you tried moving from H-pol to V-pol and vice versa?
 Could it be self interference (which I think might be the biggest  
 problem
 with 900MHz, at least the possibility of it)?
 What type of antennas are you using... can you sectorize further or  
 put
 higher gain antennas at the clients?
 Can you add filters possibly to help with the noise?
 How large are your channels?  Can you use a smaller channel?

 Assuming your sectors are not overloaded... I would assume  
 interference
 too.

 Now I would pitch Canopy... but I'm sure you don't want to hear  
 that :-D

 Daniel White
 3-dB Networks
 http://www.3dbnetworks.com


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 boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of John Scrivner
 Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 7:10 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo 900 Latency

 We have a couple of sectors of 900 MHz Tranzeo which were running  
 fine
 previously but seem to experience enormous latency at times now. I  
 am
 talking about upwards of 5000 milliseconds (5 full seconds) for a  
 return
 on
 a ping. It is intermittent. I am guessing interference but was  
 wondering
 if
 anyone had seen anything else cause this. We have had limited  
 success in
 dealing with interference in 900 MHz previously so we are hoping  
 there
 is
 something else we can try before completely bailing on the band in  
 those
 locations. Any ideas are appreciated.
 John Scrivner


 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo 900 Latency

2009-08-06 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Hey Marlon,

Are you totally bridged or are you routed to each Tower?

ryan

Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
 Most of my tranzeo AP's have had to be replaced due to similar things.  They 
 started out good, but as people have done more things with the internet they 
 are dying.  We're changing them ALL.  The tr6000 and 6600 anyway.  These 
 days they can't seem to handle more than 4 or 5 subs on them.  Sometimes 
 even less.

 The new firmware fixed the lockups (mostly) but created what you're seeing 
 here.  Intermittent REALLY slow performance.  Junk.

 BTW, this happens in places where there is a lot of interference or nearly 
 none.  No rhyme or reason that I can figure.  Other than the amount of 
 traffic or maybe threads going through them.

 Good luck,
 marlon

 - Original Message - 
 From: John Scrivner j...@scrivner.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 7:09 AM
 Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo 900 Latency


   
 We have a couple of sectors of 900 MHz Tranzeo which were running fine
 previously but seem to experience enormous latency at times now. I am
 talking about upwards of 5000 milliseconds (5 full seconds) for a return 
 on
 a ping. It is intermittent. I am guessing interference but was wondering 
 if
 anyone had seen anything else cause this. We have had limited success in
 dealing with interference in 900 MHz previously so we are hoping there is
 something else we can try before completely bailing on the band in those
 locations. Any ideas are appreciated.
 John Scrivner


 
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Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo 900 Latency

2009-08-06 Thread D. Ryan Spott
They aren't off-list... Are people not seeing me ramble?


ryan

-Original Message-
From: Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 3:23 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo 900 Latency

Hey buddy Its comical to see you replying to Ryan's off-list emails (X3)
to you on-list.  It's like listening to one side of stereo, like a half
duplex conversation, like talking to yourself. :)


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 3:16 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo 900 Latency

Bridged.

Kinda.  We have small sites that are fed via dsl so I guess you'd call
those 
bridged.  Same issues there as on segments that have a few hundred
users.

The funny thing is that the MT gear that goes in usually doubles the
speeds 
and has NO problems with lockups etc.
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo 900 Latency


 Hey Marlon,

 Are you totally bridged or are you routed to each Tower?

 ryan

 Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
 Most of my tranzeo AP's have had to be replaced due to similar
things. 
 They
 started out good, but as people have done more things with the
internet 
 they
 are dying.  We're changing them ALL.  The tr6000 and 6600 anyway.
These
 days they can't seem to handle more than 4 or 5 subs on them.
Sometimes
 even less.

 The new firmware fixed the lockups (mostly) but created what you're 
 seeing
 here.  Intermittent REALLY slow performance.  Junk.

 BTW, this happens in places where there is a lot of interference or 
 nearly
 none.  No rhyme or reason that I can figure.  Other than the amount
of
 traffic or maybe threads going through them.

 Good luck,
 marlon

 - Original Message - 
 From: John Scrivner j...@scrivner.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 7:09 AM
 Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo 900 Latency



 We have a couple of sectors of 900 MHz Tranzeo which were running
fine
 previously but seem to experience enormous latency at times now. I
am
 talking about upwards of 5000 milliseconds (5 full seconds) for a
return
 on
 a ping. It is intermittent. I am guessing interference but was
wondering
 if
 anyone had seen anything else cause this. We have had limited
success in
 dealing with interference in 900 MHz previously so we are hoping
there 
 is
 something else we can try before completely bailing on the band in
those
 locations. Any ideas are appreciated.
 John Scrivner





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Re: [WISPA] Tower Locations

2009-07-23 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Hrm... Wifi for tugboat operators...

ryan

-Original Message-
From: Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 8:28 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower Locations

I have nothing to do with these towers - I have been offered them a couple 
of times, but they are not cellular capable so
they don't really fit into a tower companies plans.  They are all Rohn 45 
and 55 with the exception of the NOLA tower.

They were put up for a two way radio system covering those navigable 
waterways for tugboat communications.

Just over a million and you could own all of them.


  FL Pensacola Santa Rosa 30 34' 08.5 87 06' 10.5 295'
  IA Bryant Jackson 42 02' 03.5 90 20' 18.5 295'
  IA Lansing Allamakee 43 14' 32 91 10' 18 295'
  IA Sherrill Dubuque 42 37' 04.5 90 46' 37 295'
  IL Adrian Hancock 40 32' 40 91 07' 11 295'
  IL Bald Knob Union 37 33' 38.7 89 21' 15.5 180'
  IL Beardstown Morgan 39 50' 21 90 28' 14 295'
  IL Midway Massac 37 14' 36 88 36' 04.5 290'
  IL Ottawa LaSalle 41 10' 33 89 02' 18 350'
  IL Peoria Peoria 40 40' 55 89 49' 05 295'
  IL Reynolds Rock Island 41 19' 45 90 39' 37 295'
  IL Waterloo Monroe 38 16' 13 90 14' 41 295'
  KY Bedford Trimble 38 36' 23 85 20' 02 295'
  KY Fords Ferry Crittenden 37 26' 57 88 05' 37 190'
  KY Letitia Greenup 38 36' 10 83 03' 41 180'
  KY Nicholson Kenton 38 55' 47 84 33' 25 295'
  KY Union Star Breckinridge 38 01' 26 86 29' 01 190'
  LA Bayou Goula Iberville Parish 30 12' 33 91 08' 44 295'
  LA Lake Charles Cameron Parish 30 00' 54 93 14' 30 295'
  LA Laurel Hill West Feliciana Parish 30 55' 54 91 20' 22
  LA Morgan City Assumption Parish 29 41' 56 91 03' 18 295'
  LA New Orleans Jefferson Parish 29 56' 42 90 10' 30.2 295'
  MN Ridgeway Winona 43 57' 10 91 36' 04 350'
  MO Hannibal Ralls 39 36' 26 91 18' 01 295'
  MS Bay St. Louis Harrison 30 26' 44 89 18' 08 350'
  MS Commerce Desoto 34 51' 38.8 90 10' 52.3 295'
  MS Greenville Washington 33 18' 33 91 01' 59.9 295'
  MS Natchez Adams 31 40' 26 91 19' 48.5 295'
  MS Oak Ridge Warren 32 28' 47 90 42' 44.7 295'
  MS Sherard Coahoma 34 09' 45.9 90 46' 03.9 295'
  OH Arabia Lawrence 38 38' 27 82 24' 37 295'
  OH Bashan Meigs 39 03' 21 81 49' 53 295'
  OH Neel Adams 38 46' 23 83 38' 55 295'
  OH New Metamoras Monroe 39 34' 45 81 05' 03.5 295'
  OH Shadyside Belmont 39 58' 49 80 49' 05.5 295'
  TN Fulton Lauderdale 35 37' 32.1 89 51' 23.6 190'
  TN Hickman Obion 36 29' 35 89 16' 18 295'
  TX Port O'Conner Calhoun 28 33' 08.5 96 36' 31 295'
  TX Sargent Matacorda 28 52' 39 95 39' 35 350'



For individual tower details and pricing call Rick Frizalone direct
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- Original Message - 
From: Joe Miller joe.mil...@dslbyair.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower Locations



 Anyone willing to share this information with the group?



 - Original Message 
 From: Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 3:03:55 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower Locations

 Those Rohn 45 and 55 towers are also for sale.


 Don't take your organs to heaven,
 heaven knows we need them down here!
 Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 2:28 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] Tower Locations


I have come across a network of 40 towers available for rent in the
Illinois, Mississippi, and Ohio River valleys as well as the Gulf.





 
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Re: [WISPA] NCIC, FIPS, and wireless

2009-07-22 Thread D. Ryan Spott
I provide some service to the local PD. You provide transport, and transport 
only. The PD and their IT guys should do all of the encryption... You REALLY 
don't want to be responsible for the security of their data. 

Does the telco provide encryption? No way.. Easy and cheap to do, but the risk!

If you are the contracted IT guy then do it as a separate part of the 
contract.. Then have a third party certify your system. The higher up LEO will 
probably do this for you. (sheriff or state patrol)

Hope this helps,

ryan

ryan

-Original Message-
From: Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 9:51 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NCIC, FIPS, and wireless

In our area the police use EVDO broadband cards over the open internet.
Access to their network is over a IPSEC VPN.
Not sure if that is technically in compliance or not but they have
been running like that for over a year.

On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Rogelioscubac...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm planning out a wireless network, and the police want a piece of the
 action.

 I'm also guessing that FIPS compliancy addresses NCIC concerns, and I
 was wondering if anyone could comment on that being sufficient.

 I'm also wondering if a dual form of authentication adequately addresses
 the security issues. From what I can tell, if the police do any of the
 following things (listed in the URL below), then they have to follow NCIC

 http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cjisd/ncic.htm

 A contact of mine who works for the police tells me the following
 interesting things about NCIC, which I'd love feedback on...

 --if you use PtP links (e.g. T1 lines) between sites, requirements are
 very lax
 --if you don't use PtP links, then you'll likely need two form
 authentication (not necessarily two on separate bands)
 --everyone assumes that a police network *will* be in compliance
 --people often build police networks with compliance, as someone will
 inevitably put secure stuff on top of it later
 --the penalty for not being compliant is getting shut down until
 everything is reviewed
 --only police departments can ask the DOJ for clarification on what is
 and isn't compliant (vendors can't ask directly)


 
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Re: [WISPA] 802.11 CPE's

2009-07-21 Thread D. Ryan Spott
As a WISPA member I suggest a WISPA vendor: http://www.linktechs.net/ 
  that sells FCC Cert-ed systems.

I think WISPA members get a discount... But I am not sure.

ryan


On Jul 20, 2009, at 3:09 PM, Mike wrote:

 Looking for a good MT vendor.  The fellow I've been trying to work
 with has gone AWOL.  I need to get a link going for a community
 project pretty quickly.

 Regards,

 Mike




 
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Re: [WISPA] FW: Introducing Bullet M: 100+Mbps Real TCP/IP Throughput

2009-07-21 Thread D. Ryan Spott
A vendor local to me lamented that he had JUST bought several cases of  
ns2 and right when he recieved the often delayed for manufacturing  
shipment... They released the pico bullet etc line so all of his  
inbound sales calls were 'hey! Do you have any poco bullets etc in  
stock?'

Why doesn't ubnt distribute into the channel secretly first THEN  
announce the product so you can... You know Buy the product.

ryan


On Jul 21, 2009, at 3:14 PM, Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com wrote:

 Ubiquiti does release product with zero stock. They take orders from
 their resellers after the announcement, and fill them in batches.  
 Right
 now Bullet2HP's and Loco's are hard to find for example. They
 essentially don't manufacture product until it's sold.

 Regards
 Michael Baird
 I was looking at it myself.  Everyone is negative stock-wise.  At  
 least
 that's what I see.  Just like Ubiquiti to release a product with  
 zero stock.

 Darn good products but I swear, they must have got their marketing  
 ideas
 from the Nintendo, PlayStation and McRib sandwich.  Create a demand  
 by
 having your products available sporadically.





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 Behalf Of Cameron Kilton
 Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 5:34 PM
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 Subject: [WISPA] FW: Introducing Bullet M: 100+Mbps Real TCP/IP  
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 Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 4:06 PM
 To: c...@midcoast.com
 Subject: Introducing Bullet M: 100+Mbps Real TCP/IP Throughput





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 let.gif

 100+Mbps Real TCP/IP Throughput over multi-km links

 AirView
 http://www.ubnt.com/company/newsletter/0113/images/0113_bm.jpg

 Introducing the revolutionary 802.11n based Bullet M. Available in
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 With up to 600mW of power and enhanced receiver design, the Bullet  
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 ideal for long-distance links.


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Re: [WISPA] 802.11 CPE's

2009-07-20 Thread D. Ryan Spott
OH. Yeah.. the APs based on the CPEs are NOT to be used for more than  
15-20 clients. I have NO experience with their linux based APs.

ryan


On Jul 20, 2009, at 5:23 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:

 Thry make great CPE's, I have about 350 in the air, don't like their  
 AP's at
 all though, am using Star or MT for AP's and they are solid.

 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]  
 On
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 1:57 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 802.11 CPE's

 One thing is for sure..Tranzeo is pretty solid once you get them in  
 place.

 On 7/19/09, D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com wrote:
 Tranzeo CPQ19?

 They are not bad... really! I have several hundred in the air.


 ryan


 On Jul 18, 2009, at 3:20 PM, Jason Wallace wrote:

 Everyone,

   Any recommendations on an FCC CERTIFIED 802.11 cpe that has a
 higher
 gain than Deliberant''s 15dbi?  I really liked Deliberant's 19 dbi's
 but
 they are gone...

 Jason
 Integrity Internet



 
 
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Re: [WISPA] OT Hotmail email black hole

2009-07-10 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Can you give more detail as to what requirements were placed on you?

With more details I might be able to help you. I was tier-4 at 
MSN/Hotmail/Passport for a bit. (these services are now called Live, or 
Bing, or whatever they call them this week!)

ryan

Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
 Hi All,

 Hotmail has put us on some kind of black list.  Messages from my servers to 
 anyone with a hotmail (or affiliate) address is being sent into oblivion.

 Contacting Hotmail has been nearly useless.  They've simply told me to go 
 join a special program that they have and that'll get my system ok'd again.

 Sorry, but I'm NOT giving them customer information or money in order to fix 
 this.

 Does anyone know anyone that doesn't have his head up his wazzoo at that 
 org?  Anyone else been successful at getting off of the black list there?

 Thanks,
 marlon



 
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Re: [WISPA] residential repeater site contract

2009-06-25 Thread D. Ryan Spott
My repeater contact is simple.

If un-served-behind-the-big-rock-customer (USBTBR) wants service, they 
need to talk to their neighbor about it.  If they establish some sort 
dialog, then the house-with-service-customer (HWSC) calls me to tell me 
it is OK. I find that this makes it a community/neighbor issue and 
really cuts down on you have been on my roof for a year with 3 
customers, I want $5K a month rent now sorts of calls).

I give a $5 per month discount to the HWSC for the first USBTBRr they 
repeat to. After the second USBTBR is using the repeater, the 
house-with-service customer is no longer billed. We usually don't even 
tell them we stopped billing them. They call us after a month or 4 and 
ask us why there have been no debits. Then we tell them. :)

Because there is:
a financial incentive (free or reduced cost service and See's Chocolate 
delivered by my daughter during the holidays),
a broadband incentive (I usually put these people on my 5.8Ghz backbone),
and a good neighbor incentive (some USBTBR have mowed the 
house-with-service-customer's lawns, baked pies etc)
We often get house-with-service-customers giving us access to their 
backup generators, rebooting our equipment for us etc.

Some things I have learned:
1. NEVER tell the USBTBR that the house-with-service-customer is getting 
free or reduced cost service.
2. If you PoE is inside the HWSC home, install some sort of 
female-female coupler in a weather resistant box at ground level so you 
can come onto the property for reboots without entering the house or 
climbing on the roof.
3. Never tell the USBTBR that this reboot device exists, but let the 
HWSC know it is there and let them tell the others if they wish. This 
reduces all of the neighbors coming across the lawn to reboot what they 
think is a bad repeater. The HWSC will generally let one or 2 trusted 
neighbors know the reboot thing is there.
4. Keep the roof traffic down to a minimum. Asphalt shingles begin to 
wear out after a while causing concern with residential owners.
5. Keep the truck traffic down to daylight hours and tell the HWSC that 
you won't even knock on their door and disturb them if you are just 
coming for a reboot or quick service call. Of course, a few of my HWSC 
DO want me to tell them I am there, and I do.
6. Establish with your USBTBRs FIRST OFF that they are behind a repeater 
that is there due to the good graces of the HWSC. Therefore, if service 
drops in the middle of the nigh, you are not going to wake someone up to 
do a reboot, nor are you going to risk getting shot running to that 
person's house to reboot the repeater.


ryan

Josh Luthman wrote:
 Thank you for sharing, Rick!

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

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 On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 9:22 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:

   
 Attached...RickG

 On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 5:39 PM, sa...@jeffcosoho.com
 sa...@jeffcosoho.comwrote:

 
 Anyone have a contract they could share for this?

 Thanx
 Jim





   
 
 
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[WISPA] Looking for service on Tonganoxie Rd, Leavenworth, KS 66048

2009-06-23 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Looking for service in this area:

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=2560+tonganoxie+rd+leavenworth,+ksie=UTF8split=0gl=usei=uvVASqz9JI_KsQOnrPyMCQll=39.236292,-94.978931spn=0.012199,0.019312t=hz=16iwloc=A

Does anyone service this area outside of Leavenworth/Lansing?

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Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ???

2009-06-09 Thread D. Ryan Spott
http://www.tranzeofaq.com/oct102008.html

ryan

Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
 Well I thought that it happened this way, I may be wrong,

 - Tranzeo didn't want to look at the problem and somebody on the list did
 some packet sniffing and the Tranzeo's were randomly sending a bunch of
 0o0o0o0o0's and the Mikrotik didn't know how to interpret that so it
 dropped all the clients and started over. The random 0's was not supposed
 to be in the 802.11 spec and I think that Mikrotik did a work around that
 ignored them. 




 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com
  
  

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 1:10 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ???

 Wasn't Tranzeo that diagnosed the disconnect problem?

 On 6/9/09, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote:
   
 Marlon,

 I would stongly advise against doing any firmware upgrades to 4.0.2 for
 
 the
   
 sake of your customers. We almost lost ours last year with the Tranzeo
 re-asocciation issues last time around

 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
 Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 10:30 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ???

 H, I've not upgraded many of the CPQ's to 4.0.2.  I've not noticed
 
 what
   
 you're talking about.  I tend to only update firmware when something's not
 working though, so I may not have noticed for a while.

 laters,
 marlon

 - Original Message -
 From: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 9:43 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ???


 
 I thought I mentioned that all AP's are Mikrotik v3.15. I gave up on the
 Tranzeo AP's a LONG time ago Best decision I ever made.

 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
 Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 12:38 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Cc: Brent Thrift
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ???

 Kurt, do yourself a favor and just drop the Tranzeo ap's.  The 6000 and
 6600

 units that I use absolutely suck.  The 4.0.2 firmware helped quite a bit
 with the lock up issues, but now the speeds suck.

 I've gotten rid of almost all of them in favor of MT APs.  Life is
   
 soo
   
 good now!

 It wouldn't be so bad if the factory didn't try to dodge these problems.
 If

 they can't duplicate the issue send someone out to those of us that can!
 This run around crap is costing far more money than anyone seems to
 believe.

 There's no way I'm gonna even try a Tranzeo 3650 product or anything else
 that requires that I rely on them.

 Good luck.
 marlon

 - Original Message -
 From: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 9:27 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ???


   
 All was running fine on our CPE's running version 3.6.7 and did the
 upgrade
 to version 4.0.2. Now every CPE that is running in router mode doing NAT
 will randomly not pass new traffic. Example: running a constant ping to
 the
 AP all of the sudden will start dropping pings. But the funny thing is
 that
 if you are doing a download the download will not be interrupted at all.
 Try
 to check email or bring up a new page and nothing. After a while the
 pings
 will start replying and then normal surfing will resume.



 This problem took forever to diagnose and finally narrowed it down to
 
 the
   
 new 4.0.2 Tranzeo firmware running on CPQ's and SL2's only while doing
 NAT.
 The temporary fix for clients that have noticed the problem is to set
 
 the
   
 Tranzeo back up into bridge mode. Once in bridge mode all problems go
 away.
 All access points are Mikrotik based running 3.15 firmware. This problem
 does not happen on a Mikrotik based CPE doing NAT.



 Been emailing Tranzeo tech support for over a week and they are again
 playing the blame game and pointing the finger at Mikrotik telling me
 that
 Mikrotik doesn't do double NAT even though double NAT has been working
 fine
 for the past 5 years until now. Running NAT on the CPE side and then on
 the
 core router.



 Can anyone else verify this as Tranzeo claims that they can not
 
 reproduce
   
 in
 the lab.



 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com










 
 

Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ???

2009-06-09 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Kevin Lamothe wrote:
 We've had other issues with the latest firmware, we mostly use Cisco 
 APs, after a fw 4.0.2 radio associates, it will take anywhere from 2-10 
 minutes before the radio can pass any traffic, this issue wasn't present 
 in 3.6.7.

 Their new management VLAN tagging feature only works with Tranzeo APs, 
 it will ignore any tagged VLANS packets from Cisco or StarOS APs

 I never got anywhere with tech support and they ended up just closing 
 the ticket.
   
Do you have a ticket number?

ryan


 Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
   
 I thought I mentioned that all AP's are Mikrotik v3.15. I gave up on the
 Tranzeo AP's a LONG time ago Best decision I ever made.

 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com
  
  
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
 Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 12:38 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Cc: Brent Thrift
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ???

 Kurt, do yourself a favor and just drop the Tranzeo ap's.  The 6000 and 6600

 units that I use absolutely suck.  The 4.0.2 firmware helped quite a bit 
 with the lock up issues, but now the speeds suck.

 I've gotten rid of almost all of them in favor of MT APs.  Life is soo 
 good now!

 It wouldn't be so bad if the factory didn't try to dodge these problems.  If

 they can't duplicate the issue send someone out to those of us that can! 
 This run around crap is costing far more money than anyone seems to believe.

 There's no way I'm gonna even try a Tranzeo 3650 product or anything else 
 that requires that I rely on them.

 Good luck.
 marlon

 - Original Message - 
 From: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 9:27 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ???


   
 
 All was running fine on our CPE's running version 3.6.7 and did the 
 upgrade
 to version 4.0.2. Now every CPE that is running in router mode doing NAT
 will randomly not pass new traffic. Example: running a constant ping to 
 the
 AP all of the sudden will start dropping pings. But the funny thing is 
 that
 if you are doing a download the download will not be interrupted at all. 
 Try
 to check email or bring up a new page and nothing. After a while the pings
 will start replying and then normal surfing will resume.



 This problem took forever to diagnose and finally narrowed it down to the
 new 4.0.2 Tranzeo firmware running on CPQ's and SL2's only while doing 
 NAT.
 The temporary fix for clients that have noticed the problem is to set the
 Tranzeo back up into bridge mode. Once in bridge mode all problems go 
 away.
 All access points are Mikrotik based running 3.15 firmware. This problem
 does not happen on a Mikrotik based CPE doing NAT.



 Been emailing Tranzeo tech support for over a week and they are again
 playing the blame game and pointing the finger at Mikrotik telling me that
 Mikrotik doesn't do double NAT even though double NAT has been working 
 fine
 for the past 5 years until now. Running NAT on the CPE side and then on 
 the
 core router.



 Can anyone else verify this as Tranzeo claims that they can not reproduce 
 in
 the lab.



 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com

   
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Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ???

2009-06-09 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
 Tranzeo informed me yesterday that they will not support Mikrotik related
 problems.
   
Dude, I have this network problem, on my network, and because you are on 
this list, I want you to fix it for me... at your cost. OH! and it 
requires replacing a tower, please pay for the Time, materials and labor 
to do this. OH! and I am your direct competitor. THEN, after you fix MY 
problem on YOUR dime/time, I'll put out a press release that says that 
you were not doing things right in the first place and it was your fault.

Really, do you expect Tranzeo to set aside some engineering types to 
this issue, then send Mtik the solution so they can fix the problem and 
then they slap them in the face with What's new in 3.15: added 
workaround for non-standards compliant CPE with timestamp issue


 HA! This is funny because back in the Tranzeo/MT disconnect days of last
 summer wasn't the problem traced to Tranzeo firmware not following 802.11
 spec? And tranzeo still wouldn't fix it so Mikrotik jumped in and saved us
 all from Tranzeo's problem
   
Not so fast! :)

 We (Tranzeo and I, mostly Damian) opened a ticket with Mtik
 (Ticket#2008091666000531):

 Tranzeo laid out a packet sniff from Network Instruments
 Wireless Observer along with my wireshark packet sniff
 showing in brief that the Mtik AP was throwing out random
 zeros in it's beacon frame timestamp. They stated that
 when a zero is recieved, the CPE are to assume that there
 is a change in the settings of the wireless AP and they
 should disconnect and reaquire. (think of this as an
 INSTANT change from 802.11b to 802.11b/g and all your
 clients disconnect and reconnect, because, well, there is
 a change in the AP's capabilities. This is reasonable
 reaction to a notification of a change of settings.

 Mtik replied with IEEE Std 802.11-2007 section 11.1.1.1
 (located here if you have trouble sleeping:
 (http://standards.ieee.org/getieee802/download/802.11-2007.pdf 
 *YAWN*
 let me tell you, this explains why wireless engineers are
 who they are.. whoa!) Mtik continued and said that the
 wording of this standard allowed for a timestamp of zero
 sent from the AP and basically the CPE should deal with it
 and play through.

 Damian learned some Latvian so he could swear in a
 diffrent language than Canadian. Honestly, he likes to be
 legal in APs etc and just cannot see why us ULS users
 would flaunt the FCC _and_ put up with these Mtik bugs. I
 mentioned something under my breath regarding CPQs and
 firware updates about 3 years ago... 

 The nice gentleman engineer at Tranzeo placed some virtual
 CPE on a bench facing a Mtik AP and was able to reproduce
 the issue. He then released to me some very alpha firmware
 that would email him with a warning whenever a CPQ saw a
 zero frame. This alpha software would also IGNORE this
 frame and keep on trucking. This alpha firmware was given
 with the stern warning that if I changed ANYTHING on the
 AP I would have to really recycle it to make all the CPE
 realize there was a change. This poor engineer was
 probably overwhelmed when I installed this firmware on 110
 CPQs in about an hour. I watched the log file generated by
 these emails and the events had to be happening in the
 hundreds per hour.

 Mtik was silent so I poked Uldis a bit with a comment
 about silence from Latvia and no National holidays I could
 see along with: 

 While there is no specific _requirement_ to treat Zero
 as a reset, _most_ wireless CPE (including yours!)
 consider this to be a flag to reset.  If you don't
 then when the card is reset, the client will ignore
 all of the changes until the time stamp  the last one.
 This is the same as driving on the right side of the
 road. There is no _LAW_ saying you should do so, but
 you do because everyone else does! Perhaps there is a
 reason to drive on the left but not in this case! :)

 I even showed Mtik support that even THIER Mtik brand
 CPE were disconnecting in some instances!

 Mtik replied with a bit of beta software that seems to
 have helped. It is posted to the forum and only need be
 installed on APs. (remember CPE don't give out timestamps)
 This is the second or third iteration of this software.


 After this is all said and done who 

Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ???

2009-06-09 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Why you would route AT the AP boggles my mind... Routing Before the AP 
is the way to go.

Why add additional load on an AP when it should be working on sending 
and receiving wireless data.

ryan

Rick Kunze wrote:
 I've got about 50 or 60 CPQ's and SL2's out there, as well as a dozen or 
 so 6000's, some for up to 4 or 5 years.

 I've never had a single problem with any of them failing to pass traffic 
 as mentioned in the thread.  I just upgraded one small town to 4.0.2, a 
 couple 6000's and a couple dozen CPE's in router/NAT mode.  No calls 
 from any customers . . . everything seems normal.

 IMO, the Tranzeo stuff has been fine.  All AP's however are bridged in 
 my case.

 Rk


 
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Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ???

2009-06-09 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Right! At every location is GREAT! but if you have 3 APs at the top of a 
tower, you don't route on each AP, you route at the bottom of the tower 
right?

ryan

Mike Hammett wrote:
 I route at every device.  ;-)  Well, at least at every location.


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 --
 From: D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 1:38 PM
 To: rku...@colusanet.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ???

   
 Why you would route AT the AP boggles my mind... Routing Before the AP
 is the way to go.

 Why add additional load on an AP when it should be working on sending
 and receiving wireless data.

 ryan

 Rick Kunze wrote:
 
 I've got about 50 or 60 CPQ's and SL2's out there, as well as a dozen or
 so 6000's, some for up to 4 or 5 years.

 I've never had a single problem with any of them failing to pass traffic
 as mentioned in the thread.  I just upgraded one small town to 4.0.2, a
 couple 6000's and a couple dozen CPE's in router/NAT mode.  No calls
 from any customers . . . everything seems normal.

 IMO, the Tranzeo stuff has been fine.  All AP's however are bridged in
 my case.

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Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ???

2009-06-09 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Do you have any ethreal data you can share?

ryan

Steve Smith wrote:
 In our case we are using staros APs.  We like to have the CPE set to 
 router mode so we don't have to deal with any of the client equipment 
 on their side of our unit at their place.  That way we don't care if 
 they change out a piece of equipment. 

 We are having no problem with any Tranzeo equipment that is set to 
 bridge mode.  We love the Tranzeo CPQs.  Our problems are when the 
 CPQs are in router mode.  There is a definite problem that we can 
 replicate 100% of the time.

 We have eliminated all of the causes of the problem with the exception 
 of the Tranzeo CPQ. 

 All units have 4.0.2 and we do not believe the problem is with an 
 upgrade in the firmware because we can replicate the problem in 
 version 3.6.7 as well.

 I just moved one client today that was in router mode back to bridge 
 mode because they couldn't do their UPS shipping until we did.  
 Apparently, we may need to move all of them to bridge mode but with 
 hundreds of units out there I really don't like that idea.

 steve



 D. Ryan Spott wrote:
 Why you would route AT the AP boggles my mind... Routing Before the AP 
 is the way to go.

 Why add additional load on an AP when it should be working on sending 
 and receiving wireless data.

 ryan

 Rick Kunze wrote:
   
 I've got about 50 or 60 CPQ's and SL2's out there, as well as a dozen or 
 so 6000's, some for up to 4 or 5 years.

 I've never had a single problem with any of them failing to pass traffic 
 as mentioned in the thread.  I just upgraded one small town to 4.0.2, a 
 couple 6000's and a couple dozen CPE's in router/NAT mode.  No calls 
 from any customers . . . everything seems normal.

 IMO, the Tranzeo stuff has been fine.  All AP's however are bridged in 
 my case.

 Rk


 
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Re: [WISPA] Electronic Signatures

2009-06-08 Thread D. Ryan Spott
I think in most states paying the bill obligates you to the terms of 
service/contract.

ryan

Charles Wyble wrote:
 Ah. Gotcha.

 Thanks for clarifying.

 RickG wrote:
   
 Having an AUP is fine but it doesnt spell out the terms of a specific
 obligation between you  the end user. The big carriers obligate you
 to two year contracts when you agree online so I'm assuming we can do
 the same.
 -RickG


 On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 11:22 PM, Charles Wyblechar...@thewybles.com wrote:
 
 The big carriers don't require a signature on a contract. They also
 don't do (free/near free) installs either. I don't know if there is a
 signed contract if you pay for an install.

 Yes I realize this is a very important differentiator that we can
 provide, however I don't feel a signed contract is necessary. An AUP is
 an excellent idea as a general rule, however if they are transiting bits
 on your network, you have the right and obligation to defend that
 network. If you don't, you risk other operators dropping traffic from
 your IP rnage /AS.


 Your free to enforce your AUP with impunity. Failure to do so is the
 sole reason that bits of evil reach our border routers. A few simple
 route filters, and spam/botnets would be stopped. Subscribe to the Don't
 Route Or Peer List from Spamhaus
 (http://www.spamhaus.org/drop/index.lasso), and monitor outbound traffic.


 *sighs*



 Martha Huizenga wrote:
   
 Exactly, we send the contract with the install and then get it back when
 the install is done. Works fine.

 Jason Hensley wrote:
 
 Wow.  Seems like a waste of time and resources.  If I mailed contracts 
 like
 that here I'd lose half my install opportunities because they would never
 send the contract back.  Send a contract with the installer, get them to
 sign it before they install, give one copy to customer, bring one back, 
 done
 deal.  If nothing else, get an electronic as an initial confirmation, then
 get an actual signature at install.



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Scott Reed
 Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 6:42 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Electronic Signatures

 We currently use a two-year contract for customers.  Right now we gather
 the information, generate a contract, USMail it to the customer and wait
 for them to USMail it back after they sign it before we schedule an
 installation.  We would like to reduce the time from initial contact to
 installation.  One option we are looking at is electronic signature on
 the contract. We have done some research into doing this, but thought it
 would be good to get some other input.
 If you do electronic signatures, how do you do it?
 If you use a third party to certify the signatures, who do you use?
 What is good about them?  What is not so good?


   
 
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Re: [WISPA] [WISP] 900 PtP

2009-06-05 Thread D. Ryan Spott
David Hulsebus wrote:
 Ryan, How do you like the Moonblink antennas?
Eh, they are OK. Getting timely shipping and shipping information out of 
Moonblink makes ordering from them a head-ache for my ordering person.
The antennas are sleek aluminum but they are fragile so you can't handle 
them much past one installation.
 I've been using Cushcraft 
 for some time, they've worked very well. I've used the M2inc. but found 
 rain to be an issue with the open round beam holding water.

 If I have line of sight I can get 8-10 miles out of a link, but never 
 through many trees. I have two small 120 vertical sectors using Tranzeo 
 and I wish we could get links that are as stable as the WaveRiders we 
 have in place. I do use a 908.4 filter on the Tranzeos and reduced my 
 noise floor from -75 to -95. They  were designed for WaveRiders but work 
 well for a 5MHz channel at 908 on the Tranzeos. I even tried the 
 Mikrotik 900 and had even poorer luck with them.
   
Ditch the Verticle sectors. They are noise vacuums. I am using a simple 
TR902-11 panel for my AP. When I use the sectors my noise floor gets so 
loud as to make the AP unusable.
 I won't say the WaveRiders were my best decision, but having tested 
 Trango, Canopy first, it was the best for my environment at the time. 
 I've still got 400 EUM3000-3005's in place across 15 sectors. We can get 
 1.2MB down and 800K up for about 30-35 clients. We added their new 
 CCU8000 and a dozen clients so far on a new build out this year and 
 expect to max out at 30-40 subs per AP and if they are like the 
 CCU3000's will still give everyone 6 MB down and 4 MB up. We pay 
 extremely high prices for the WaveRider EUM's which really hurts the ROI.
   
Yeah, the waveriders. I think the only reason you have the CCU3000s is 
because of the competitive pressure of Tranzeo/UBNT handing out 
802.11b/g type speeds over 900mhz.

ryan
 Dave

 D. Ryan Spott wrote:
   
 http://www.tranzeofaq.com/images/lewis.jpg
 This is a 900Mhz Client running at 5Mhz on TR902 radios. The AP is a 
 TR902-13 and the client is a TR902-N with a 15DB yagi from Moonblink 
 wireless. /images/lewis.jpg

 ryan



 




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Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Wimax

2009-06-05 Thread D. Ryan Spott
I agree. When you see wifi vendors with sub-$1000 APs in the 2.4 space and they 
suddenly want to sell yo basically the same tech (at a different freq range) 
for $1 there is a problem.

Someone is cashing in on hype becase the RD CANNOT be that expensive when you 
take volume of CPE/AP sales into account.

Seriously, FCC testing is around $6K for a complete radio, and the 
ASIC/opensource platform that makes up the signalling is close to free.

MTIK/UBNT will place lots of pressure on the $$$ guys will use sales savvy 
(Alverion) to stay afloat or lower their price.


ryan

-Original Message-
From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 8:17 PM
To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Wimax

The WiMax guys aren't interested in the WISP market... they are after the cell 
guys and big operators looking to place 5,000 and 10,000 CPE orders.

Travis
Microserv

Scottie Arnett wrote: 
I will invite any 3.65 Mfg to let me test their gear in my environment. I have 
found nothing to work past 2 miles in the hills and trees of TN, except 900 Mhz 
Canopy.

Scottie 

-- Original Message --
From: Mike Cowan mi...@wirelessconnections.net
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Fri, 5 Jun 2009 07:24:53 -0400

  
It is true that a 802.11 based 3.650 product is not going to be any better
than 2.4.  A wimax based 3.650 product is going to gve field performance
much like 2.4.  A diversity based 3.650 system is going to provide coverage
much like, and oftentimes exceeding that of 900Mhz.  These observations are
based on real field deployments in diverse terrain across the US.

Mike





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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 1:33 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Wimax

Hi,

We have two small 3.65 repeaters (serving only other small WiPOPs). The 
3.65 does work, but our experience was that it did not do any better in 
NLOS than 2.4ghz would already do (when comparing the same type of radio 
systems). There are several other radio features and tricks that the 
higher-end WiMax companies are doing to get better NLOS, but it is still 
not comparable to 900mhz.

In our area, there is a provider using 2.5ghz licensed WiMax and they 
still have NLOS issues where our 900mhz Trango system will work just 
fine. YMMV.

Travis
Microserv

Jeremie Chism wrote:

Several months ago I paid the small fee for the 365 license but have not
used it. We are looking to deploy something that has a little less
interference since there is quite a bit of 900mhz and 5.8ghz equipment
deployed where we are.   Has anyone tested any of this equipment and how
  
has

it worked.  Also does it possess any NLOS capabilities (I know all the
manufacturers claim they do).
Thanks

Jeremie Chism
Triton Communications



  



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