Re: [WISPA] OT: Sageni web site is live

2008-08-01 Thread David Peterson
I keep hearing Monte Python in my head, which would make you the Sage that
says Ni.

David Peterson
WirelessGuys
(sorry had to let my geek flag fly)

On 8/1/08 10:17 AM, Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Actually,
 
 Sageni is a word creation combining Sage and Genie...most of all it was an
 open 6 letter domain name!
 
 On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 6:01 PM, John McDowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Nice... So Sageni = Sage Insider?
 
 On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 4:14 PM, Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 Just wanted to drop you folks a note to let you know www.sageni.com is
 live,
 achieving my goal of going live on August 1. Still lots of room to build
 on,
 but I hope you think it is a good start. Next up, for me to join WISPA
 under
 my new company name.
 
 Cheers all,
 
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 Sageni
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] 3650 FSS negotiations for protected areas...?

2008-07-28 Thread David Peterson
This site has the basic locations and shows their radius coverage.

http://zing.naviciti.com/

You can also contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] for the contact info on any of
those sites.

David

On 7/28/08 10:21 AM, Doug Radcliffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So how do we find the contact information on the international bureau's
 filings?
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 8:58 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650 FSS negotiations for protected areas...?
 
 
 You can't use ULS for earth stations. Earth stations are covered by
 the international bureau as opposed to the wireless bureau.
 
 -Matt
 
 On Jul 27, 2008, at 6:52 PM, Doug Ratcliffe wrote:
 
 I've read your blogs and have been keeping up with them.  What I
 can't seem
 to find is the ULS registrations for the actual earth satellite
 stations.
 It seems like most other ULS entires, they have a contact address
 and a
 person's name.
 
 I did a Geosearch of Orange County, FL (the Sprint Communications
 Orlando,
 FL  county) using Frequencies 3500 to 5000mhz (All Service Types),
 and found
 nothing but a cancelled point to point license for ATT.
 
 A quick search of the FCC site for Sprint's filing #
 (SESRWL2000101902129)
 finds nothing but the mention in the FCC 3650 FSS list.  If I were
 to call
 the FCC with that number would they be able to provide me contact
 information for that company that pertains to the FSS department?
 
 I wonder if creating a website that documented all the FSS contact
 info,
 combined with map distance, automatic EIRP / bearing calculations
 (i.e. the
 stuff the FCC talks about in their 3650 document), would be
 beneficial to
 the other WISPs who want to serve the 125 million people who live
 INSIDE of
 these zones.
 
 It seems silly, like a 5-10W transmitter pointing the opposite
 direction
 would even make a difference - you would think the FCC would have
 integrated
 distance AND antenna direction when it comes to base station
 registration...
 
 Florida is flat.  At 105km, I would need to have at least a 450 foot
 tower
 or higher on both ends to even send a signal that far.  45 miles
 ended up
 needing over 400ft on both ends.  It's not like I want to broadcast
 3650
 from the top of a 10,000 foot mountain peak.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 6:20 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650 FSS negotiations for protected areas...?
 
 
 Doug Ratcliffe wrote:
 Has anyone gotten any headway on company negotiations in protected
 zones?
 Almost all of the zones near me (105km is the closest to the SW,
 146.7km
 next closest to the South) and I have no desire to point coverage
 in that
 direction - mainly north and northwest.  But according to the FCC,
 I'd be
 dealing with Sprint, and Harris Corporation - these people don't
 even
 have
 phone numbers on their web sites for any departments that would
 look like
 they would even know what I was talking about.
 
 
 I have done several blog posts on this subject:
 
 http://charlesnw.blogspot.com/2008/07/satellite-related-brain-dump.html
 http://charlesnw.blogspot.com/2008/07/80211y-3650-mhz-in-southern-californi
 a.html
 
 http://charlesnw.blogspot.com/2008/07/3650mhz-southern-california-malibu.ht
 ml
 http://charlesnw.blogspot.com/2008/07/3650mhz-southern-california-malibu_05
 .html
 
 Hope that helps.
 And even if I found a human being, it seems unlikely I'd talk to
 anyone
 with
 the power to make a real decision.
 
 
 Indeed.
 Is this something best sent from a telecommunications attorney to
 their
 FCC
 attorney of record?  Is the consent more like a contract?  Would
 they be
 able to charge me for consent (like a spectrum lease)?  Is this like
 asking
 for keys to the space shuttle?
 
 
 Excellent questions. Hopefully someone here can help.
 
 
 -- 
 Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059
 http://charlesnw.blogspot.com
 CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] 3650 FSS negotiations for protected areas...?

2008-07-28 Thread David Peterson
I think it was just a matter of getting around to it.  I am ccing him if you
would like to collaborate with him on getting the info to the community.

David 
On 7/28/08 12:01 PM, Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 David Peterson wrote:
 This site has the basic locations and shows their radius coverage.
 
 http://zing.naviciti.com/
 
 You can also contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] for the contact info on any of
 those sites.
 
   
 
 If they have the info, why don't they put it on the map? Isn't that kind
 of the point of the mash up? :)
 
 I was quite frustrated with the lack of information on that map (I found
 it some time ago).
 
 I have also put up a mash up of the stations in SoCal.
 
 http://tinyurl.com/5hjky4
 
 What info I have (in my blog posts) is linked to from the map.
 
 If anyone has info on ground stations (both for ones I have and ones I
 don't) I'll happily expand my mash up, and link back to the page with
 info (and I'll host the info page if you like as well).
 
 
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[WISPA] Service Need

2008-07-11 Thread David Peterson
If anyone has service in:

22512 Glade Rd.
Brookfield, MO

Contact:  Jim at 660-963-2442




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Re: [WISPA] Update from the FCC on 3.65Ghz and CBP

2008-07-03 Thread David Peterson
There are cheaper options than 10k per sector but you are correct that's
about the going rate between 10 and 15k per sector.  However, this equipment
is not anywhere near the same as the tinker toys as Scriv puts it.  This
equipment will last you much longer than the commodity equipment.  It's
easily twice as spectrally efficient and allows for a much easier
deployment.  A number of WISPS are moving to this platform as they find that
the higher end equipment is worth more on a buyout.

Lets put it this way.  If you have a network to sell, how much more do you
think you will get if you have Cisco instead of Mikrotik?  Nothing against
them, but the quality of your infrastructure is heavily weighed during a
buyout.  If you don't agree, check the many spam's on this and other lists
from the guys buying networks.  Some won't even look at you if you don't
have Canopy or better equipment.

David Peterson
WirelessGuys Inc.
805-578-8590

On 7/2/08 5:33 PM, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 $10k for a single AP is why.  I can outfit two whole towers with MTI sector
 antennas for the price of 1 WiMAX radio.
 
 Gross throughput.  My Mikrotik can do 35 megs of throughput vs. 20 (albeit a
 larger channel).
 
 I want to use WiMAX as it is more spectrally efficient (most important
 advantage in my eyes), but will not do so until vendors go after the masses
 and not early adopters.
 
 
 --
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 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 3:36 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Update from the FCC on 3.65Ghz and CBP
 
 
 I hope all of you will read this post. I have spent a long time
 writing it and I think it is very important for us to all think about
 the issues involved.
 
 How about if we tie the 3.65 GHz band to one technology with our
 wallets instead of making Uncle Sam do it with regulation? We will see
 which platforms dominate over the next 5 years in wireless broadband.
 We are going to see some movement away from 802.11 based systems as a
 platform for delivery of outdoor broadband in all bands in my opinion.
 I think we will see a move toward licensed WiMax and LTE systems used
 predominantly for wireless broadband delivery as the next few years
 progress. I have little doubt that other platforms will be put to use
 but innovation will not occur from multiple platform distractions away
 from the goal of building efficient, cost effective and unified
 systems for outdoor wireless broadband.
 
 Do you think mixing several unrelated technologies into he same band
 is a good idea? I believe that we need to be using ONE platform in
 3.65 and we need to all support it. Fragmentation of support, vendors,
 operators, etc. does not help our collective efforts. We need to
 decide on a platform and all of us need to use it if we are ever going
 to make headway as a group. The rest of the world is building WiMax in
 3.4 thru 3.8 GHz. I just cannot see why we have to reinvent the wheel
 here. I assure you that if we all built on this platform that we could
 get the regulations changed to allow for WiMax use across the entire
 50 MHz of this band. With GPS sync and 6 non-overlapping channels we
 could certainly avoid interference and deliver quality wireless
 broadband in 3.65 GHz.
 
 How does our industry standardizing on a platform like WiMax in 3.65
 GHz stifle innovation? I think it does the opposite. I think it
 provides focus and clarity and economies of scale for a platform
 designed to provide outdoor wireless broadband. It is our best shot at
 building interconnected networks with scale and an exit strategy for
 operators, many having been running wireless broadband networks for
 over a decade. We are not getting any younger and someday we need to
 have something that someone will want to buy.
 
 I have given much thought to this. I am sure some will doubt what I am
 saying but I feel very strongly that we need to be setting a standard
 and supporting it as a group. If we cannot mass our buying power
 collectively toward a common platform VERY soon then we will not have
 to worry about it much longer because deeper pockets will do it for
 us.
 
 By most all accounts Telecoms with DSL and CableCos with DOCSIS have
 flourished by choosing industry standards for their broadband
 platforms and using it. They all support these same standards. I
 remember the early days of cable modems when there were 50 proprietary
 standards. Innovation came when the cable companies and their vendors
 banded together and built the DOCSIS standard and they all agreed to
 support it. That is innovation, focus, and efficiency. Why can't we do
 the same thing and learn from others who have succeeded? How can we
 achieve economies of scale with several different incompatible
 systems? I think we better wise up in 3.65 before we end up

Re: [WISPA] unlic wimax on 3.65

2008-07-01 Thread David Peterson
If you can call the current Light-licensed scheme put in place by the FCC,
then yes naturally you have to register your towers and equipment with the
FCC.  However, the procedure is not terribly difficult to navigate and the
cost is not prohibitive.  What I was referring to was the WiMax 3.65GHz
vendors not the UNLICENSED portion of the post.

David
On 7/1/08 2:06 AM, Jack Unger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 David,
 
 In your haste to sell equipment you may have failed to understand that
 the question was about availability of unlicensed equipmement. The
 correct answer is that there is NO UNLICENSED 3650 OPERATION. All 3650
 operation requires an FCC license.
 
 jack
 
 
 David Peterson wrote:
 Have them contact me offlist.  We carry the top WiMax manufacturers in
 3.65GHz.
 
 David Peterson
 WirelessGuys Inc.
 805-578-8590
 
 On 6/30/08 1:57 PM, Rogelio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   
 Someone I know is looking for unlicensed wimax on 3.65 GHz.
 
 I told him I didn't know if that was available (but hadn't looked).
 
 Does anyone else have any comments or experience on this?
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] unlic wimax on 3.65

2008-06-30 Thread David Peterson
Have them contact me offlist.  We carry the top WiMax manufacturers in
3.65GHz.

David Peterson
WirelessGuys Inc.
805-578-8590

On 6/30/08 1:57 PM, Rogelio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Someone I know is looking for unlicensed wimax on 3.65 GHz.
 
 I told him I didn't know if that was available (but hadn't looked).
 
 Does anyone else have any comments or experience on this?
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] pcb

2008-02-15 Thread David Peterson
You can get them in 100 packs from Microcom.

David

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 7:29 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] pcb

Let me know when you order.  They have a min order number.  I got some a

couple yrs ago and sold a bunch.  I think you had to order 500-1000.  
Now I am a little low.  I might take some off your hands if you don't 
want that many.

Brian

Travis Johnson wrote:
 Hi,

 Who sells the plastic 3M PCB with adhesive backing? Like for mounting 
 routerboards inside cases?

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Re: [WISPA] Small unmanaged switches

2008-02-15 Thread David Peterson
Garrettcom has a 4 port hardened switch designed for factory floors and
I believe they have larger ones.  They retail between $83 and $112 for
the 12v version.

Hit me offlist if you would like more information.

David
WirelessGuys Inc.

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Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 12:14 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Small unmanaged switches


I concur, the 5 port Netgear is a workhorse.  We use them exclusively at
all
our AP's, hops and customer locations. 

Joe
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of David E. Smith
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 1:07 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Small unmanaged switches

On Fri, February 15, 2008 11:56 am, Patrick Shoemaker wrote:
 I'm looking to purchase some small unmanaged switches (5 ports)

[ snip ]

You may want the Netgear ProSafe FS105.

http://www.netgear.com/Products/Switches/DesktopSwitches/FS105.aspx

The current crop are basically as small as physically possible (or at
least are the smallest five-port switches I've seen), and the metal case
just looks and feels sturdy, as compared to the cheap plastic ones.
(Here,
things get a little tricky, as Netgear uses the same model number on a
couple different switches; I don't have any experience with the
silver-plastic FS105 switches. They're probably the same, internally,
but
I've also never ripped one open to see.)

Netgear FS105s and the big brother FS108s run about 3/4 of our towers,
and
have for several years. I can't recall a single instance of a problem
with
a switch that was found to be a defect in the switch itself. Lightning
making a switch go foom, sure, but that's not the switch's fault. :)

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[WISPA] 900MHz Yagis

2008-02-15 Thread David Peterson
I have 50 13dB Yagi's in stock that I need to move for cost, free ground
shipping to the US.

 

Please hit me off list if you are interested.

 

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Re: [WISPA] 3.65 needs more lobbying (was Re: One Ring Networks ToRollout New WiMAX Service)

2008-01-27 Thread David Peterson
Ping me offlist for any pricing on Airspan.

David Peterson
WirelessGuys Inc.

'On 1/25/08 12:10 PM, Eric Muehleisen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm sorry guys. Price was not discussed. A quote will be delivered to me
 shortly. I will post cost as soon as I see it. I'm hoping early next week.
 
 I do have a sales order for one Redline RedMAX base station with outdoor
 CPE if anyone is interested...offlist.
 
 FYI...I'm not in any shape or form affiliated with Airspan or Redline.
 We are an Internet Service Provider serving the greater Midwestern Kansas.
 
 Eric Muehleisen
 Sr. Internet Technology Specialist
 Nex-Tech - Lightning Jack
 785.625.7070 office
 785.621.2980 voip
 
 George Rogato wrote:
 Only thing I want to know is the price range, offlist if you must. But
 I'm sure everyone is curious.
 
 Thanks
 
 George
 
 Eric Muehleisen wrote:
   
 We just completed a demo of Airspan's Hipermax in Emporia, Kansas
 yesterday. Stutler Technologies hosted us as they are one of the largest
 systems integrators for Airspan. I must say that I was very impressed
 with it's NLOS performance. We tested both the indoor self install and
 the outdoor ST Pro CPE. We achieve 6mb/s indoor at 2 miles NLOS. The
 base station was a 1 sector install using diversity at approximately.
 50ft up on tower using 120 degree sectors.
 
 Email me offlist if you'd like more info and whitepapers from our testing.
 
 -Eric
 
 jeffrey thomas wrote:
 
 All,
 
 
 Aperto actually has a really killer product launching next month in
 3.65.
 I would state its a lot more stable than Redline's product due to their
 secret sauce. Its the same platform that is winning carriers overseas.
 
 Airspan- yes absolutely can give you up to 10w EIRP legal- so your
 coverage
 area for fixed is literally insane- 15km NLOS @ bpsk is possible,
 according 
 to their calculator tool.  outdoor cpe is around 600 or so in single
 piece qty-
 talk to wireless guys to buy or other resellers.
 
 BTW, I believe they just joined Wispa as a vendor member, for those that
 sent me private mails asking them to join.
 
 
 -
 
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 On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 16:19:44 -0600, Mike Hammett
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
   
   
 So then Airspan can go further (more applicable to rural markets)?
 
 If Redline's 15 mbit throughput per 7.5 MHz is correct and is similar to
 other products in this band, a 10 MHz product would have 20 mbit
 throughput.
 
 I'm working on an Enterprise level service, so it seems like Redline's
 AN-80 
 is the only high quality product that actually has throughput
 capabilities.
 
 
 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 11:26 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 needs more lobbying (was Re: One Ring Networks
 ToRollout New WiMAX Service)
 
 
 
 
 IIRC,
 
 3.65 ghz rules allow 1 watt EIRP per each mhz of bandwidth, thus a 7.5
 Mhz Radio would be allowed 7.5 Watts of EIRP, 10 Mhz radio would be 10
 Watts EIRP ...
 
 
 Redline cert does not reflect this... don't know why
 
 Airspan certification does get really close to it
 
 Mind me but 10 Watts EIRP if allot (about 40 db)
 
 Vendors should seek maybe 15 or 20 mhz channels
 
 
 Gino A. Villarini
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Matt Liotta
 Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 1:12 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] 3.65 needs more lobbying (was Re: One Ring Networks To
 Rollout New WiMAX Service)
 
 As much as I like seeing One Ring's name over and over I figured I
 switch the subject line to match the tread.
 
 Mike's comments below are accurate with regard to Redline's equipment.
 However, it should be noted that Redline was not able to get their gear
 certified at the full power output allowable for 3.65. It is for this
 reason that Redline does not believe its gear will work in rural
 markets. Remember, 3.65 was originally supposed to be for the rural
 market, which means either Redline went wrong somewhere or the FCC did.
 Additionally, Redline has not sought to get its indoor CPE certified for
 
 3.65 because of the power issue. That means urban operators are not able
 
 to offer self-install options that would greater speed up the rollout
 process.
 
 I believe WISPA should be working with the 3.65 radio vendors and the
 FCC to get things fixed such that there will be a greater opportunity
 for operators to provide services using 3.65.
 
 -Matt
 
 Mike Hammett wrote:
   
   
 The guys at Redline said their equipment is power limited due to FCC
 limitations.
 
 My point of view is based on Redline's statement of what their gear
 

 can do
   
   
 coupled with the documents filed with the FCC

Re: [WISPA] Linux mail solution

2008-01-25 Thread David Peterson
If you are not a Linux guru, this script set is very easy to follow:

www.qmailrocks.org

It gets you Qmail, virtual email domains, squirrel mail, domain email
controls, spamassassin, clamav, etc, etc.

David

On 1/24/08 11:00 PM, Sam Tetherow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Postfix
 Cyrus IMAP or Courier IMAP
 amavisd with ClamAV and SpamAssassin
 The only webmail I have messed with is Squirrelmail and while it works
 the stable version is non-javascript by design so it is very plain Jane.
 
 Sam Tetherow
 Sandhills Wireless
 
 Mike Hammett wrote:
 I currently just use a domain on my InterWorx hosting controller for all of
 my email.  I'm looking to hire Jeremy Davis to setup Freeside for me and I'd
 like to setup a new mail system integrated with Freeside.  He'd integrate
 Freeside into it and I'm awaiting server recommendations from him, but I come
 here looking for recommendations for a mail system to include things like
 SMTP, IMAP, SSL, webmail, antivirus, antispam, etc.
 
 I currently use QMail and it would be nice if I could migrate old mail and
 mail accounts over.
 
 
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RE: [WISPA] Legal Charges used in Malicious Interference Situations

2007-09-13 Thread David Peterson
Hey Mac, 

You can disagree with disrespect, this is opinion. :

However, let me break this down for you and others on this thread.

If 1 guy moves in the area, follows the rules and raises the noise floor, 
should you be able to engage in anti-competitive practices by asking that he be 
shut down?  What if 15 move into your area and all compete?  

The only way that I could see having a leg to stand on is if he is deliberately 
attempting to interfere with your business instead of pursuing his normal 
course of business.

As one guy pointed out, I am not a lawyer.  

David
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 9:50 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Legal Charges used in Malicious Interference Situations

I disagree totally :) with all respect! 

I also think that Canopy ought to be illegal in the USA. They built
something that is totally spectrally unfriendly - on purpose! The commercial
that they use to air was the last man standing. I didn't say that Canopy
didn't build some pretty good gear - I said I hate their guts and wouldn't
hang it if it were given to me for free due to the noise they create. I
would love to see their gear recalled and outlawed. I can produce that
commercial/ad in court and if you think you would stand a chance in civil
court against an ad like that - - you are in for a surprise - - -unlicensed
spectrum or not!

  We (all the WISP's) have a pact in N. Louisiana - - no one buys Canopy! 


Mac



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of David Peterson
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:32 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: RE: [WISPA] Legal Charges used in Malicious Interference
 Situations
 
 I would have to disagree with most of this thread.  You have two things
 going against you in this.
 
 1.  A free market economy.
 2.  License Free spectrum.
 
 You can no more sue for someone putting up wireless in your area than
 you can if you owned a restaurant and McDonalds moved in next door.
 This is a critical component of American society, so I doubt that any
 judge would even allow the suit to ever get in front of a jury.  If you
 can prove they are doing something illegal, like shooting your antennas
 with a .22 you might have a chance.
 
 License free spectrum means that you are going to get interference.
 Period.  If interference were actionable, then Canopy would be out of
 business.  Let's face it guys, Canopy interferes with most of all other
 equipment in its spectrum.  By now, someone would have sued Canopy both
 on their equipment and on their marketing.  (Who has seen the Wireless
 Thug pic at the shows.  I know I have.)
 
 Your best bet is to prove that they are using unauthorized gear such as
 amps, etc. and cajole the FCC into investigating.
 
 David Peterson
 WirelesGuys Inc.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Mac Dearman
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 6:00 PM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: RE: [WISPA] Legal Charges used in Malicious Interference
 Situations
 
 Jack,
 
I don't think it would have to be anything illegal about the
 interference. If someone moves into an area established by you  - where
 you
 have an ongoing business and (for instance) someone hangs some Canopy
 and
 creates the inability to recover from the noise - - that is a law suit
 in
 the making. I am sure you would have to do all you could do and present
 the
 evidence of such, but the one who knocked you oout of business would be
 responsible for your lost income.
 
  My partner (20% owner) is a Corporate attorney and we have had this
 discussion on several occasions. I will ask him what his take on this
 is and
 what grounds he bases this line of thought.
 
 Mac
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On
  Behalf Of George Rogato
  Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 2:09 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Legal Charges used in Malicious Interference
  Situations
 
  Onlist for my reply.
  It's also a good onlist discusion.
 
  I have always believed that there is some way to combat someone who
  intentionally causes interference with an existing network to cause
  harm
  to the business or operation and or for financial gain.
 
  I'm not a lawyer, so I can't even give any advice that would be
 worthy
  of taking to court.
 
  But, to me, it's just unbelievable that criminal case can't be
 brought
  against the offending party. The same way the Ricco statutes were
 first
  used against the mob and in other racketeering cases.
 
 
  Statutory remedies for intentional acts. Many statutes provide
 remedies
  for intentional harms. Civil rights statutes provide remedies for
  intentional discrimination. Consumer fraud statutes provide remedies
  for
  unlawful trade practices. The federal

RE: [WISPA] Legal Charges used in Malicious Interference Situations

2007-09-12 Thread David Peterson
I would have to disagree with most of this thread.  You have two things going 
against you in this.  

1.  A free market economy.  
2.  License Free spectrum.

You can no more sue for someone putting up wireless in your area than you can 
if you owned a restaurant and McDonalds moved in next door.  This is a critical 
component of American society, so I doubt that any judge would even allow the 
suit to ever get in front of a jury.  If you can prove they are doing something 
illegal, like shooting your antennas with a .22 you might have a chance.

License free spectrum means that you are going to get interference.  Period.  
If interference were actionable, then Canopy would be out of business.  Let's 
face it guys, Canopy interferes with most of all other equipment in its 
spectrum.  By now, someone would have sued Canopy both on their equipment and 
on their marketing.  (Who has seen the Wireless Thug pic at the shows.  I know 
I have.)

Your best bet is to prove that they are using unauthorized gear such as amps, 
etc. and cajole the FCC into investigating.

David Peterson
WirelesGuys Inc.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 6:00 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Legal Charges used in Malicious Interference Situations

Jack,

   I don't think it would have to be anything illegal about the
interference. If someone moves into an area established by you  - where you
have an ongoing business and (for instance) someone hangs some Canopy and
creates the inability to recover from the noise - - that is a law suit in
the making. I am sure you would have to do all you could do and present the
evidence of such, but the one who knocked you oout of business would be
responsible for your lost income. 

 My partner (20% owner) is a Corporate attorney and we have had this
discussion on several occasions. I will ask him what his take on this is and
what grounds he bases this line of thought.

Mac



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of George Rogato
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 2:09 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Legal Charges used in Malicious Interference
 Situations
 
 Onlist for my reply.
 It's also a good onlist discusion.
 
 I have always believed that there is some way to combat someone who
 intentionally causes interference with an existing network to cause
 harm
 to the business or operation and or for financial gain.
 
 I'm not a lawyer, so I can't even give any advice that would be worthy
 of taking to court.
 
 But, to me, it's just unbelievable that criminal case can't be brought
 against the offending party. The same way the Ricco statutes were first
 used against the mob and in other racketeering cases.
 
 
 Statutory remedies for intentional acts. Many statutes provide remedies
 for intentional harms. Civil rights statutes provide remedies for
 intentional discrimination. Consumer fraud statutes provide remedies
 for
 unlawful trade practices. The federal RICCO statute provides remedies
 for victims of conspiratorial intentional conduct.
 
 http://www.rnoon.com/law_for_laymen/litigation/intent.html
 
 
 Jack Unger wrote:
  It's hard for me to accept that there are a few inconsiderate bullies
  out there who would intentionally and maliciously jam other WISPs in
  order to take over the customer base. I have recently seen probable
  evidence of just such behavior. Because the FCC has no law (that I
 know
  of) against this disgraceful behavior, legal recourse needs to be
 made
  in state court and state laws do vary from state to state.
 
  Would anyone who has fought against this type of unethical behavior
  please share with me (offlist please) what State law(s) they used?
 
  Thanks in advance,
 
  jack
 
 
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[WISPA] Looking for an engineer

2007-09-05 Thread David Peterson
I am looking to rent short term a competent engineer in the Andover, MA area.  
Hit me offlist.

David


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RE: BlackBerry Apps WAS Re: [WISPA] Managing your networkonthego-go-go!

2007-08-10 Thread David Peterson
This looks interesting...
http://3sp.com/showSslExplorerCommunity.do

Open source web based 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Felix A. Lopez
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 2:26 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: BlackBerry Apps WAS Re: [WISPA] Managing your networkonthego-go-go!

Paul - I recall a wireless operator wanted his field
technician to be able to VPN into their server (using
his handheld PDA) and download trouble tickets for
field repair jobs on CPE, check network status, etc. 
They wanted to do this over Verizon but also WiFi. And
they wanted session persistence so the field
technician did not have to relog-in (re-authenticate)
every-time he dropped the signal...or They wanted to
keep the trouble ticket 'hot' and I think you can do
this with the volatile memory on the PDA which then
refreshes when you gain the signal.

Can you talk about this, your experiences, and your
product?

Thanks
Felix Lopez
San Francisco, CA
Utilities and Wireless Practitioner 





--- Paul Dumais [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Our VNC product is called Mobile Desktop (also
 supports RDP and SSH
 tunneling) and it is $45.
 
 Paul Dumais
 Idokorro Mobile Inc.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mark Nash [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 1:50 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: BlackBerry Apps WAS Re: [WISPA]
 Managing your network
 onthego-go-go!
 
 That's better... What about the mobile VNC?
 
 Mark Nash
 UnwiredOnline
 350 Holly Street
 Junction City, OR 97448
 http://www.uwol.net
 541-998-
 541-998-5599 fax
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Paul Dumais [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 10:49 AM
 Subject: RE: BlackBerry Apps WAS Re: [WISPA]
 Managing your network on 
 thego-go-go!
 
 
 Mark, it sounds like you are referring to our Mobile
 Admin product which
 is directed to enterprises, pricing for Mobile Admin
 starts at
 $245/server.
 
 The Mobile SSH product that I suggested to David is
 much more affordable
 and targeted to individuals at $95, most of our
 customers agree that the
 ROI on the SSH product even for an individual or
 small company is very
 easy to justify.
 
 Paul Dumais
 Idokorro Mobile Inc.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mark Nash [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 1:31 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: BlackBerry Apps WAS Re: [WISPA] Managing
 your network on the
 go-go-go!
 
 Paul, I have considered your product line for our
 BlackBerries (we have
 2).
 It seems that your pricing was way out of line for a
 small provider to
 take
 on.  It seemed that it was more directed at
 enterprise-level tech
 support
 personnel managing a large network with Exchange
 servers  file servers
 
 such.  Our needs are often that great, but our
 budgets often aren't.
 
 Do you have a pricing solution for us?
 
 Mark Nash
 UnwiredOnline
 350 Holly Street
 Junction City, OR 97448
 http://www.uwol.net
 541-998-
 541-998-5599 fax
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Paul Dumais [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 9:03 AM
 Subject: RE: [WISPA] Managing your network on the
 go-go-go!
 
 
 David I just noticed your message asking for an SSH
 client for
 BlackBerry.  Our product Idokorro Mobile SSH
 supports sending keys with
 CTRL, for example you can press CTRL+C and any other
 combination.  As
 well with the BlackBerry devices QWERTY keyboard it
 makes SSH a snap.
 
 You also mentioned VNC, we also have a product that
 does that on a
 BlackBerry, it's called Mobile Desktop.
 
 If you have any other questions please contact me!
 
 Paul Dumais
 Idokorro Mobile
 http://www.idokorro.com
 
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 On
  Behalf Of David E. Smith
  Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 12:07 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: [WISPA] Managing your network on the
 go-go-go!
 
 
  I'm looking for a way to keep an eye on my
 network, and to fix some
  basic stuff, while hiking, or on vacation, or
 what-have-you. Ideally,
  something I could take to a baseball game with me,
 even.
 
  A laptop computer is far too big for what I've got
 in mind, as it's
  likely to double as a pass-around pager for
 whoever's on call this
  week. Thus, I'm probably limited to a Blackberry
 or maybe a Windows
  Mobile device like the Motorola Q, running on a
 cell phone network.
 
  Most of our towers are running Valemount's StarOS
 software, so we need
 
  something that has an SSH client, and that SSH
 client needs to support
 
  key chording (Control

RE: [WISPA] VOIP Providers with Virtual Office Type Setups - CALL ME NOW

2007-07-27 Thread David Peterson
Johnny,

http://www.junctionnetworks.com/hostedpbx/
http://www.iicinternet.com/hosted-trixbox.html

They are very good people.  Also you could rent a hosted Trixbox and connect it 
to a reputable wholesaler like Junction Networks among others.


David


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Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 9:17 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] VOIP Providers with Virtual Office Type Setups - CALL ME NOW
Importance: High

Need a very quick solution to a very aggrivating problem. BellSouth and Us 
have been arguing for months over excess charges on our bill from when we 
had T1 services through them. Apparently this morning, they have decided to 
shut off our phone lines into our office. *There way of making us 
pay for stuff we do not owe them for *

I am needing an almost overnite VoIP / Virtual Office type setup from 
someone who has reasonable pricing and a damn good service. If you are going 
to call and expect us to pay more then $100.00/mo for a 1-800 # type setup 
with 3 extensions. Don't bother...

If anyone has any solutions they would like us to take a look at , we will 
be making a decision today by noon.

Regards,

JohnnyO
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[WISPA] service

2007-07-19 Thread David Peterson
If anyone services Muskegon, MI (Cloverville area) please hit me offlist.

David


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RE: [WISPA] online doc sharing

2007-05-16 Thread David Peterson
Try google docs and spreadsheets.  Free and easy...

David

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. 
Schafer (509) 982-2181
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 4:29 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] online doc sharing

OK, what is that?

Sorry guys, but I'm swamped and ignorant  grin

I just need to know what to put on a server (or whatever) that'll do the 
trick for us.  And, naturally, I'm in a hurry for it.

Any and all help would be much appreciated.

Marlon
(509) 982-2181
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999!
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www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



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Subject: Re: [WISPA] online doc sharing


I would check into using a revision control system such as subversion. I 
believe it will handle word docs properly.


 Ryan

 Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
 Hi All,

 The calea committee needs a way to share word docs online.  We need to be 
 able to edit them etc. online so that our edits don't overlap or get left 
 off.

 We'd been using google docs but due to some new privacy requirements 
 we're unable to do that now.  We have to have the same functionality on 
 one of our servers.  Anyone know how to get one of the machines set up 
 this way?

 The doc needs to be stored on a secure password protected site.

 thanks!
 Marlon
 (509) 982-2181
 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
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RE: [WISPA] Try it out vs. Cingular

2007-05-10 Thread David Peterson
Not all alternatives are costly (Lawyer) or illegal.  Although the third link 
does broach on some moral grey areas.

http://www.celltradeusa.com/
http://www.chipchick.com/2006/05/how_to_get_out_.html
http://www.wikihow.com/Get-out-of-a-Cellular-Service-Contract

David

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 10:05 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Try it out vs. Cingular

Trying to help someone out of a contract is illegal (unless you are 
their legal counsel). Ask your attorney if you want confirmation of 
this. The better approach is to sell your service in addition to the 
existing service. Tell him this provides a backup service in case one or 
the other is down and it provides enough cost savings to pay for your 
service. If he wants to get out of his contract then let him do it himself.
Scriv


Mike Hammett wrote:

 oh, I'm most certainly under $1200, even for a whole year.  :-p

 Anyone have experience getting out of a bad Cingular deal?


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 Intelligent Computing Solutions
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 Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 7:48 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Try it out vs. Cingular


 Even if he can't get out of the Cingular contract, I would think 
 paying you your normal rates would cost less than $1200 to Cingular.  
 Suggest that your unlimited service is still less expensive than 
 overages.

 Mike Hammett wrote:

 I have a potential customer that wanted to try out my service.  
 He's got money, so I wasn't afraid he was looking to get something 
 for nothing.  He has Cingular now and can only get 125 - 175 kbit 
 out of it. I clearly can provide a faster less latent service for a 
 lower monthly cost (costs him $70/month).

 Apparently he wasn't on the unlimited rate plan and got hit with a 
 $1200 bill.  He doesn't think he can get out of his Cingular.  *argh*

 That said, can anyone think of a way to hookup a standalone fax 
 machine with the Cingular card?  I can't contemplate anything at all.


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[WISPA] CALEA Question

2007-05-02 Thread David Peterson
As I am finding myself back into sales, I have a question concerning CALEA.  I 
just read this blurb:

The “facilities-based” terminology was meant to include providers offering 
connectivity infrastructure between end users and the Internet. However, 
establishments that acquire broadband Internet access service from a 
facilities-based provider to enable their customers to access the Internet from 
their respective establishments are excluded. The FCC explicitly exempted 
retail providers such as those offering hot spot WiFi (News - Alert) service 
where the actual Internet connectivity is obtained from another provider

From this site:  http://www.rad-info.net/fcc/calea1.htm

This would indicate to me that if you are a retail provider, i.e. you buy your 
broadband from someone else and resell it to your customers, that you are 
exempt.  This would suggest that the onus is on your provider to monitor your 
T-1 or other connection to them in the event of a need for a tap.

Any clarity on this would be great.



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RE: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-02 Thread David Peterson
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_disobedience

I recommend Thoreau's treatise on the subject.

David

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J. Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 5:59 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

... I wish now that I had paid more attention in History classes

Which of the founding fathers said something to the effect that the
proper response of the citizenry
to an unjust law was to ignore/disobey it?

John Vogel

Butch Evans wrote:

 On Wed, 2 May 2007, Lonnie Nunweiler wrote:

 Changing the laws happens MUCH quicker if a mass of people openly
 oppose it.  Your country was founded on that very principle.

 Yes it does (sometimes).  Open opposition to a law and advocating
 criminal action are not the same thing.

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Re: [WISPA] clock

2007-03-16 Thread David Peterson
As most of you know, Congress in a misguided effort to save us energy money,
moved daylight savings time back 3 weeks from its original date.
Unfortunately for windoze, an update needs to be downloaded.  You can get it
at http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com.  The reason some people have the
download and some don't is that you have to turn on manually automatic
updates.  If you don't have that turned on, any updates, including security
ones, need to be manually downloaded from the windows update site.

David Peterson
Nexus Wireless USA

On 3/16/07 11:07 AM, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Mine has been right all along.  Never changed a thing either.
 
 I'm guessing there's an update that you guys don't have?
 
 Marlon
 (509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
 www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 4:44 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] clock
 
 
 Thats funny, didn't notice my clock off till just now.
 Is there something wrong with xp's clock?
 
 
 Tom DeReggi wrote:
 Yeah its really wierd, I changed my clock 4 times today to reflect the
 right time, and it keeps jumping back to the old time.
 I just unchecked the adjust for daylight savings button, to see if it
 helps.
 
 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
 
 
 - Original Message - From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 3:05 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] clock
 
 
 Tom,
 
 I think your PC or laptop clock is off.
 Did you ever reset or patch for Daylight Savings time this past Sunday
 AM?
 
 BTW, did anyone notice that recurring outlook appointments were messed
 up with the new DST?
 
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Re: [WISPA] clock

2007-03-14 Thread David Peterson
In case everyone missed it, Congress in it's mighty wisdom changed the dates
of Daylight savings time.  It was normally due two weeks from now.  Go to
http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com to update your old skool windoze boxes.
Most OS's just use NTP to keep up to date.  Check with your OS update
provider for further information.

David Peterson
Nexus Wireless USA

On 3/14/07 7:45 PM, Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yeah its really wierd, I changed my clock 4 times today to reflect the right
 time, and it keeps jumping back to the old time.
 I just unchecked the adjust for daylight savings button, to see if it
 helps.
 
 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 3:05 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] clock
 
 
 Tom,
 
 I think your PC or laptop clock is off.
 Did you ever reset or patch for Daylight Savings time this past Sunday AM?
 
 BTW, did anyone notice that recurring outlook appointments were messed up
 with the new DST?
 
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[WISPA] FYI

2007-02-22 Thread David Peterson
Just read a scary article that all WISP's and free networks alike should
read. 

RIAA Fights Back, Threatens Open Wi-Fi

If the judge rules that we're each legally responsible for all of the
traffic that comes through our ISP account, open, unprotected Wi-Fi hotspots
would become a serious legal liability, the hundreds of thousands
(millions?) of people who depend on their neighbors for Wi-Fi will be out of
luck, while altruistic (or ignorant) folks who leave their wireless networks
open could find themselves embroiled in an RIAA lawsuits even if they've
never shared a single song in their lives.

http://blog.wired.com/music/2007/02/riaa_contests_d.html


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Re: Updated : Re: [WISPA] Broadband Wireless Internet Access Vendors list : Now: WOW Way to put foot into mouth!

2007-02-16 Thread David Peterson
Sorry for the old reference, Ultramesh is no long with us.  I only consult
at this time.  I noticed some companies on your list that are not selling
certified gear, and as such should not be posted publicly as doing so by an
industry journalist.  This would cause some people to purchase products that
they themselves would not have done so without your assertion.

However, I will follow up my statement with additional research.

Aruba Networks
I would have to say I am likely wrong here, and if they are on this list
please forward your FCC ID if you like.  Their product page shows equipment
with the following Electromagnetic Compliance Although their url to
country certification list shows a 404 page.

# FCC Part 15 Class B
# FCC Part 15 Class C 15.207/15.247
# FCC Part 15 Class E 15.407
# ICES-003 Class A
# RSS 210 (CAN)
# VCCI Class A
# EN 61000-3, EN 61000-4-2, EN 61000-4-3, EN 61000-4-4
# EN 61000-4-5, EN 61000-4-6, EN 61000-4-8, EN 61000-4-11
# 73/23/EEC and 89/336/EEC
# EN 55022, EN55024 (89/336/EEC)
# ETS 300 328 (89/336/EEC), ETS 301 489 (89/336/EEC)
# ETS 301 893
# AS/NZS 3548 Class A
# RFS 29 (NZ)

Avantry

I find them at Wincomm, but not at the FCC site under Avantry or Witcom.
However, given the style and cost of their equipment, its unlikely that they
have spent the kind of RD money they appear to have spent without getting
certifed.  Again if anyone from Avantry/Witcom or even Wincomm wants to
forward the ID# to this list please feel free.

Cambridge Broadband
They appear to sell outside the US and operate in 3.5, 10.5 and 26 Ghz FDD
equipment.  As such they are unlikely FCC certified, but are likely
certified in many other countries. Looks pricey.

http://www.cambridgebroadband.com/contact.htm

CarrierComm

Appears to be an ASIC and OEM manufacturer for the cellular industry.  That
one is out of my knowledge field, but my first thought would be that they
are compliant with the regulations for SDR.

CoCo Communications
They seem to have added a protocol to existing linux based equipment.
Question for the industry: If you change the firmware on existing access
points and rebrand them to your company, are you required to recertify the
equipment?

Deliberant
Nothing further on them.

EION Wireless
Appears to have bought the Wi-Lan product line.  Their other equipment,
however doesn't show up under any FCC search.  If anyone from EION wants to
chime in, please do.

GIL Technology
Seems to be the Taiwanese manufacturer for the old Wi-Lan product line.
http://www.gil.com.tw/eng/product/wireless/libra5800.htm

Qorvus
Nothing further on them.  No FCC ID's for their WRAP board + linux offering
(based on LocustWorld) + CM9/Senao 2511MP based products.

David Peterson
No longer with the now defunct Ultramesh Inc.

On 2/16/07 7:35 AM, John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 David,
 I tried to search Ultramesh and received no results. The first one you
 listed below had several filings, Aruba Wireless Networks. This is in
 contradiction to your assertions below. Avantry and others produced no
 results but may have filed under a different name? David, do you have
 certified gear listed under a different name? People who live in glass
 houses should not throw stones. I used this URL for searching:
 https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/cf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm
 Scriv
 
 
 David Peterson wrote:
 
 I have lurked for some time now, but feel the need to address an alarming
 trend on this list.  There are Industry Leaders putting facts out there
 with out fully examining the truth.  Before you flame me, please read all
 that is below my signature as proof to my comments...
 
 Steve, dude... I figure these are advertisers to your blog/newsletter and as
 such should have come with a disclaimer.  Your claim of  Please note that
 I'm deliberately not listing vendors who only sell
 sub-systems such as antennas, radio cards, etc. - only full-blown
 radio systems suitable for outdoor use. An additional caveat is that
 I won't knowingly list systems that are not FCC certified. is patently
 untrue as you will notice below.  I have added my comments on the vendors I
 know personally.  You have placed yourself as an industry leader for some
 time now.  I would have expected that you would not adopt a don't ask,
 don't tell mentality to your claim of knowing something.  I only say this
 as it only took some personal knowledge of the industry and one hour of my
 time to discover the flaws in your claim.
 
 Patrick, as an Industry Leader, I would expect that you would not just
 accept anything as fact without researching the claim first.  There are a
 lot of people who accept what you say as fact.
 
 While this information is not 100% accurate as the FCC has a lot of work
 submitted to them every day. I am merely suggesting that the statements of
 the Industry Leaders should be viewed with the traditional skepticism that
 should accompany statements from a vendor/vendor-subsidized source.
 
 Don't forget to read below

Was: Re: [WISPA] Broadband Wireless Internet Access Vendors list : Now: WOW Way to put foot into mouth!

2007-02-15 Thread David Peterson
I have lurked for some time now, but feel the need to address an alarming
trend on this list.  There are Industry Leaders putting facts out there
with out fully examining the truth.  Before you flame me, please read all
that is below my signature as proof to my comments...

Steve, dude... I figure these are advertisers to your blog/newsletter and as
such should have come with a disclaimer.  Your claim of  Please note that
I'm deliberately not listing vendors who only sell
sub-systems such as antennas, radio cards, etc. - only full-blown
radio systems suitable for outdoor use. An additional caveat is that
I won't knowingly list systems that are not FCC certified. is patently
untrue as you will notice below.  I have added my comments on the vendors I
know personally.  You have placed yourself as an industry leader for some
time now.  I would have expected that you would not adopt a don't ask,
don't tell mentality to your claim of knowing something.  I only say this
as it only took some personal knowledge of the industry and one hour of my
time to discover the flaws in your claim.

Patrick, as an Industry Leader, I would expect that you would not just
accept anything as fact without researching the claim first.  There are a
lot of people who accept what you say as fact.

While this information is not 100% accurate as the FCC has a lot of work
submitted to them every day. I am merely suggesting that the statements of
the Industry Leaders should be viewed with the traditional skepticism that
should accompany statements from a vendor/vendor-subsidized source.

Don't forget to read below the __ line.  I have pasted my search results
from www.fcc.gov site.

David Peterson
Formerly of Ultramesh Inc.
(a repackaging manufacturer of LocustWorld mesh software + Senao + PCEngines
motherboards)

-
Read below : all information is freely available at www.fcc.gov in the OET
search page.
-

Aruba Networks

 There are no applications on file that match the search criteria specified:
Applicant Name: Aruba Networks

Avantry

 There are no applications on file that match the search criteria specified:
Applicant Name: Avantry

Cambridge Broadband

 There are no applications on file that match the search criteria specified:
Applicant Name: Cambridge Broadband

CarrierComm

 There are no applications on file that match the search criteria specified:
Applicant Name: CarrierComm

CoCo Communications (WISP cum manufacturer)

 There are no applications on file that match the search criteria specified:
Applicant Name: CoCo Communications

Deliberant

I only list them as they only have recently started to reclassify RTL-8186
wireless OEM modules.   They have sold many radios illegal as this list
has classified them. If you look at their recent certs you will find that
they do not manufacture radios but have re-certified them in order to please
forums such as this.   They have been a homebrewer turned
integrator/assembly house since they started.

See if their certs match their output power:

From fcc.gov
-
FCC IDENTIFIER:   UB8-DLB7000

Name of Grantee:  Deliberant LLC

Equipment Class: Part 15 Spread Spectrum Transmitter
Notes: DIGITAL TRANSMISSION SYSTEM
Grant Notes  FCC Rule Parts Frequency
Range (MHZ) Output
Watts Frequency
Tolerance Emission
Designator
20 28 36 15C 2412.0  -  2462.0 0.09441
20 28 36 15C 5745.0  -  5825.0 0.06109
---

From Deliberant

---
DLB7023 802.11a + g 23dBi Integrated Dual Radio
Sku: DLB7023
The DLB7023 802.11a + g 23dBi Dual Radio features an 802.11a interface with
23dBi antenna as well as an 802.11b/g interface that operate simultaneously.
 
This hardware configuration, along with extremely flexible software
configuration options, make the DLB7023 one of the most versatile platforms
on the market today. Each interface can be an AP, Client, or WDS bridge,
which results in the perfect outdoor radio for remote repeaters, apartment
communities, and dual-band APs and CPEs.
--
 
(Could be wrong, let me know if 0.06109 EIRP  = the above specs...)

EION Wireless 

 There are no applications on file that match the search criteria specified:
Applicant Name: EION Wireless

GIL Technology

 There are no applications on file that match the search criteria specified:
Applicant Name: GIL Technology

Qorvus (they only repackage LocustWorld based software with CM9/Ubiquiti and
200mW Senao cards)

 There are no applications on file that match the search criteria specified:
Applicant Name: Qorvus

---

On 2/15/07 10:17 PM, Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Steve, here are a few off my head that are not there...Freewave, MDS,
 Lightpointe is with an e on the end, Wave Wireless (formerly
 Waverider, etc.), ZTE (ZiMAX), Huwaie, Acton Wireless Broadband (AWB),
 is Cirronet still around?, Qualcomm (with their MediaFLO), Arraycom,
 Terabeam actually dba's as Proxim.
 
 P.S. - thanks

[WISPA] Mikrotik

2006-11-09 Thread David Peterson
Is there a Mikrotik guru who would be willing to assist me with a vlan
issue?

Please hit me offlist.

David


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Re: [WISPA] Asterisk / Cisco 7940G Phones * Need to hire some help ASAP*

2006-06-26 Thread David Peterson
Title: Re: [WISPA] Asterisk / Cisco 7940G Phones * Need to hire some help ASAP*



Check with http://www.junctionnetworks.com/index.php

I have used them in the past.

David
On 6/26/06 7:40 AM, JohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Bueller ? Bueller ? - Anyone ? :)
 

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Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 9:13 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Asterisk / Cisco 7940G Phones * Need to hire some help ASAP*
Importance: High

 

Need to hire someone 1st in the AM to help configure asterisk and 2 7940G phones. 


The box is already configured, on a public IP with passwords set, phones are sitting right next to the box connected to the network. This shouldn't take long and I have no problem paying.
 

Please respond offlist with contact information and pricing. 


Regards, 


JohnnyO 






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Re: [WISPA] Asterisk / Cisco 7940G Phones * Need to hire somehelp ASAP*

2006-06-26 Thread David Peterson
Title: Re: [WISPA] Asterisk / Cisco 7940G Phones * Need to hire somehelp ASAP*



Not sure. I havent used them in a while.

David
On 6/26/06 8:04 AM, JohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

David - thanks for the lead - I have a 4port FXO card and am terminating into the PTSN for local dialing and incoming. Will they help with only the configuration or do I have to purchase their services ?
 
JohnnyO
 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Peterson
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 7:56 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Asterisk / Cisco 7940G Phones * Need to hire somehelp ASAP*

Check with http://www.junctionnetworks.com/index.php

I have used them in the past.

David
On 6/26/06 7:40 AM, JohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Bueller ? Bueller ? - Anyone ? :)
 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JohnnyO
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 9:13 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] Asterisk / Cisco 7940G Phones * Need to hire some help ASAP*
Importance: High



Need to hire someone 1st in the AM to help configure asterisk and 2 7940G phones. 


The box is already configured, on a public IP with passwords set, phones are sitting right next to the box connected to the network. This shouldn't take long and I have no problem paying.


Please respond offlist with contact information and pricing. 


Regards, 


JohnnyO 


 







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Re: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes

2006-05-02 Thread David Peterson
We do have dual radio mesh with 400mW and 100mW output power.  You can find
more information at http://www.defactowireless.com/Brochures/NewMesh.pdf

I can have someone contact you offlist about the new products.

David Peterson
AirMatrix

On 5/2/06 5:30 PM, John Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 We kind of got sucked into this. We have been working with Cisco as a
 muni provider and were offered the Mesh training, which was good. A City
 IT manager found out about the mesh and wanted it-before it was even
 available-which wasn't so good. We could either install it and make some
 money or walk away and not make money. Based on the data sheets, I had
 high hopes, now that reality has set in, I am disappointed. I understand
 why Ciscos pricing is higher-they bought Airespace and need to get their
 investment back. That doesn't justify the fact the their gear is 3-4 x
 what the competitors is. We are dealing with cities, and most of them
 have a Catalyst 6500 in the back room. They tend to standardize on Cisco
 and are willing to pay the price.
 
 Dos airmatrix have a dual radio mesh box? I just looked and the mesh
 boxes seem to be single radio 2.4 only.
 
 John
 
 Jeffrey Thomas wrote:
 Yay branding.
 
 Actually my commpany is certified on cisco mesh. Which doesn't mean I would
 sell it or recommend it. I actually tell most customers to consider lower
 Cost options because there are so few real differentiators in mesh products.
 
 1. Its far too overpriced ( retail of 4k per unit makes a 50 unit mesh a
 240k project when compared to say, airmatrix which would run the operator
 Close to 50k. So is one product is 4x greater cost than the other, then
 There is something really screwy going on.
 
 
 -jb
 
  
 
 
 On 4/25/06 7:10 AM, John J. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   
 Cities don't want home brew, they generally want something that says Cisco
 on
 the side. Every city that we ahve recently talked to either has a Cisco
 Catalyst 6500 at teh core or has written a RFP to buy a switch that directly
 indicates a Catalyst 6500. Note, I am talking about cities with populationd
 of
 25,000 and larger, I can't speak for the smaller towns.
 
 John
 
 
 
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 Why not just buy the cards, boards, antennas and make a few yourself?
 
 c
 
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 Behalf Of Jeffrey Thomas
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 Then there are companies like airmatrix that charge less than 1k per
 node.
 The key with mesh is density, and many mesh startup's fail because they
 Underbuild their networks.
 
 -
 
 Jeff
 
 
 
 On 4/24/06 7:53 AM, John J. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   
 I don't know what equipment they are using, but Cisco AP1500's (mesh)
 
 are
   
 abnout $3700 each and Cisco recommends 18-20 per square mile. Thats
 
 $74,000
   
 for the boxes plus antennas, mounts, POE and install.
 
 John
 
 
 
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 $173K per mile build out cost?  Somebody just bought a new boat..
 
 c
 
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 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060424/ap_on_hi_te/muni_wi_fi_hiccups
 
 I am not a fan of muni wireless.
 
 George
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