Re: [WISPA] What is this?
A 16 Port KVM with IP access :) You shuld be able to hook 16 servers up, and use a web page, or other IP connection to connect to it :) --- Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of Learn RouterOS -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: December 16, 2010 12:16 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] What is this? DELL POWEREDGE 2161DS 16-PORT KVM IP SWITCH 2161-DS I just found one of these literally laying here. Can anyone tell a technology impaired person what it is? Is it still something of value? Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Free Radius Servers
User Manager ;) * --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member* *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training/* http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp The information transmitted (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is intended only for the person(s) or entity/entities to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited, If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. David E. Smith wrote: On Thu, April 30, 2009 4:31 pm, 3-dB Networks wrote: Anyone have any recommendations for a free Radius server? Specifically interested in credit card processing for a hotspot application. In a clever twist on words, FreeRADIUS is probably the answer you're looking for. freeradius.org David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test
YOu getting good prices on that? * --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member* *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training/* http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp The information transmitted (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is intended only for the person(s) or entity/entities to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited, If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Kurt Fankhauser wrote: I don't hang radio's on towers for lightning reasons. I have installed Andrews 5/8 Heliax and put all my radios at the bottom. This has worked out very well for me and upgrades are a breeze because there is no climbing involved :) Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 10:48 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test Another quick note... if you have individual units why even mount them like this inside a larger box? Why not put individual RB411s in their own small box (say DCE 7x6x2) and put the box outside right under the antenna? Then you would have even more seperation and distribute you eggs a bit more too... Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message From: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 10:36 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test About a week ago there was some discussion about 5ghz radio's being installed in the same board and causing self-interference on adjacent channels and possible even on the entire band thus decreasing throughput on backhauls. Because even if you were operating on frequency's 5745 and 5825 the two radio's would have side lobe harmonics that if installed in the same enclosure they would still hear each other at that short of separation. I decided to combat this problem and find a solution and share my experience with the list. I installed a single XR5 card into 3 different RB433's with indoor enclosures. I also installed foil tape which I obtained from the local True Value store for $2.49 on all the vent holes and unused bulkhead connector holes. This was done in order to prevent RF side lobe leaks from the three radio's that would escape from the indoor enclosures themselves. Having only 1 card inside each enclosures I should not have a heat problem as the outdoor box will not be in direct sunlight. I then stacked all 3 enclosures on top of each other with dummy loads on each of the N-bulkhead connectors and did some testing. This is what I found: I set the bottom board as AP and the middle board as Client on frequency 5825. Even with this close of separation the two XR5's could only see each other at -83 on the same channel. With the top board connecting to the bottom board they could only see each other at -90. Keep in mind this is on the same frequency so adjacent channels should be much less than that possibly even in the -100 ranges. Wish I had a spectrum analyzer. With two boards separating the AP and Client there was no link at all. The two boards could not even see each other in an AP scan. Just as a comparison with the same radio's installed all on a RB600 not on top of each other but in the adjacent mpci slots the radio's were all seeing each other at -30's. So I gained roughly -55 db of separation by doing it this way. So all I would have to do now is make sure that the antennas on the tower have at least 10 foot of vertical separation and the self-interference problem should be gone and I should be enjoying much more throughput! Thoughts anyone? Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g booster
RouterOS. We can ship it configured to connect to your AP and rebroadcast :) This is the simplest way. We can do this with MESH setups, routed or bridged :) * --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member* *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training/* http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp The information transmitted (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is intended only for the person(s) or entity/entities to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited, If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Aaron D. Osgood wrote: We're looking for a low cost device that our customers can (preferably) self install in their locations to boost or repeat their WiFi (802.11 A, B, and G) Suggestions? Aaron D. Osgood Streamline Solutions L.L.C P.O. Box 6115 Falmouth, ME 04105 TEL: 207-781-5561 FAX: 207-781-8067 MOBILE: 207-831-5829 PAGE: 2078315...@vtext.com AOLIM: OzCom1 ICQ: 206889374 aosg...@streamline-solutions.net Blog: http://streamlinesolutionsllc.blogspot.com/ http://www.streamline-solutions.net http://www.WMDaWARe.com Introducing Efficiency to Business since 1986. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question
Why you take a RouterOS class :) But regardless, if you ahve a MT client, it will set the TX and RX speeds for the clients by default. YOu can set that by MAC as well, so you can control the bandwidth from the AP to the CPE. * --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member* *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training/* http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp The information transmitted (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is intended only for the person(s) or entity/entities to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited, If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Cameron Kilton wrote: I was playing around on one of our wireless interfaces and couldn't help but notice the options in the wireless tab for: Default AP Tx Rate: And Default Client TX Rate: Any insight on what this does? I couldn't seem to find much info on it. Thanks, Cameron WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question
AP TX rate works on any client, but you have to have MT for the client TX rate .. :) * --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member* *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training/* http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp The information transmitted (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is intended only for the person(s) or entity/entities to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited, If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Jayson Baker wrote: Rate-limiting. But only works with MT clients. (i.e. not other WiFi clients) On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Cameron Kilton c...@midcoast.com wrote: I was playing around on one of our wireless interfaces and couldn't help but notice the options in the wireless tab for: Default AP Tx Rate: And Default Client TX Rate: Any insight on what this does? I couldn't seem to find much info on it. Thanks, Cameron WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] router to load balance 2 wan connections
even simpler.. * --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member* *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training/* http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp The information transmitted (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is intended only for the person(s) or entity/entities to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited, If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Alan Long wrote: The 2 circuits will be ethernet feeds, one is a wireless backhaul to my main pop, and the other will be a fiber handoff from another provider. Both in the 10-20mb/s range for spped of circuit. The fiber will be the primary feed. As for laod balancing, it will ne nat. I think now after looking at our layout we willprobably go with an active-standby setup where we have the fiber connection be the main link out and in case of failure of that link roll to the wireless bacjhaullink. Thanks so much for the feedback. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 4:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] router to load balance 2 wan connections On Wed, 2009-04-22 at 16:20 -0500, Alan Long wrote: I am looking for a router to load balance 2 wan connections and support 450 users behind the router. I will be bringing in 2 external circuits from different providers and want to be able to use both. Any have any experience with gear to handle this? Alan, I have done this type of thing with everything from Mikrotik to ImageStream to Cisco (YUK). 1. What type of circuits are the 2 wan connections? 2. How much overall bandwidth do you need to route (could be answered by #1) 3. By load balance, do you mean NAT or a BGP type load balance? Depending on the answers to the above question I can provide you with a better answer as to which equipment is best. There are, of course, low grade consumer devices that can do this, but I doubt that's what you were looking for. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question
They do have all of the radar patterns in it. However, I don't think they have went down the path to get certified. * --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member* *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training/* http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp The information transmitted (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is intended only for the person(s) or entity/entities to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited, If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Scott Carullo wrote: In an attempt to hear what MT had to say on the matter we have been discussing I asked them to clarify the statement that their system could / would ever be certified for DFS2... I didn't get as much info as I would have like to of received but this is what support had to say fyi... === If you use radar-detect mode it will always look for the radar patters, not only on startup but also during the operation of AP mode, if it will find a radar activity it will mark it as used by radar and search for a new freqeuncy and look if it is used by radar or not. If you use radar-detect mode and you enable the wireless,debug logs you will see that the AP found the radar in that channel and started to search for the new free channel. Regards, Uldis === Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question
very possible. * --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member* *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training/* http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp The information transmitted (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is intended only for the person(s) or entity/entities to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited, If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Josh Luthman wrote: In other words the functionality is there but the paper that says it can does not exist? On 4/22/09, Dennis Burgess - LTI dmburg...@linktechs.net wrote: They do have all of the radar patterns in it. However, I don't think they have went down the path to get certified. * --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member* *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training/* http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp The information transmitted (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is intended only for the person(s) or entity/entities to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited, If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Scott Carullo wrote: In an attempt to hear what MT had to say on the matter we have been discussing I asked them to clarify the statement that their system could / would ever be certified for DFS2... I didn't get as much info as I would have like to of received but this is what support had to say fyi... === If you use radar-detect mode it will always look for the radar patters, not only on startup but also during the operation of AP mode, if it will find a radar activity it will mark it as used by radar and search for a new freqeuncy and look if it is used by radar or not. If you use radar-detect mode and you enable the wireless,debug logs you will see that the AP found the radar in that channel and started to search for the new free channel. Regards, Uldis === Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] using multiple 5.3 cards in a Mikrotik
loss then a UFL so a MMCX vs ufl is plus minus zero in cable loss/connector loss. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 10:40 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] using multiple 5.3 cards in a Mikrotik I have read numerous discussions on problems regarding self interference between two mPCI cards inserted in the same SBC, on same Freqs. Some reporting need for 40Mhz of center channel seperation. These are the factors... U.FL vs MMCX connectors One vs two Antenna Ports on a single mpci card (for example will second unused antenna port on card without pigtail hear noise. Does the second port need to be terminated?) Proximity of mPCI slots to each other. (ADI/Lucaya side by side versus MT 433 Stacked) High power embedded amped vs low power cards. Software thresholds vs not (min and max receive threshold and adapative noise immunity) Bleed over at card versus bleed over at antenna. (polarity won't help at card's port) Interference from Antenna port RF vs internal electronics generated RF noise (used to see this in PCs if HDD were to close to MB) One manufacturer's card vs another's. Receiver overload vs interference Unsubstantiated guestimates about this topic won;t really help because there are a LOT of variables contributing to the problem. MT433 or equivellent will most like work excellent if each card has a different freq such as 2.4, 5.8, and 900. Unless the problem is Receiver Overload. Where in that case maybe 2 CM9s could work better even if both on adjacent channel 5.3? If interference is based on Antenna placement, well thats easilly controllable by a field tech at time of installation. But what I'm concerned about is knowing that the radio system itself is made to be non-ninterfering internally. From a remote management perspective, its going to be painful tracking which radio systems have to be how far apart in channels to not interfere troubleshooting on-the-fly, without some baseline stats defined a head of time. So this brings me to three questions of higher relevence. 1) What do we need to do to guarantee that two cards can co-exist and be used on adjacenet channels without interference at the radio card hardware level (not including antenna placement factors that could allow intference) 2) Has anyone actually used a Spectrum Analyzer or Noise meter to actually measure the RF bleed between to mounted cards? With accurate results of what the interference levels are? 3) Would WISP members be interested in contributing to a small fund to pay someone to actually accurately measure the results for us? I'd like to specifically know for the 433 board. If using the higher quality MMCX w/ single antenna port cards (MT brand card), will 10Mhz of channel seperation be enough, to get two 5.3Ghz channels operating correctly? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Eje Gustafsson e...@wisp-router.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded? And 5.2 is not allowed for outdoor usage. So Franks unit is an indoor unit I would suspect he is suffering from multipath reflections. Besides on the radar stuff.. The way DFS is designed in MT it will never be able to get certified. First of it must continuously look for and detect radar not just when it first enable the interface. Secondly it at least did a horrible job in actually detecting radar signatures. Besides 5.2 is not part of the band you can use even with a certified radar detecting device. / Eje -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess - LTI Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 3:32 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded? Part of the 5.2 band. All of the radar patters are in MT, just not certified. * --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member* *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training/* http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp The information transmitted (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is intended only for the person(s) or entity/entities to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than
Re: [WISPA] router to load balance 2 wan connections
RouterOS RB1000 will handle that, maybe even a 493AH :) * --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member* *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training/* http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp The information transmitted (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is intended only for the person(s) or entity/entities to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited, If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Alan Long wrote: No bgp. Link will be 20-30mb/s circuits. We currently run about 450 users across a 20mb wireless think. Aerowire Alan Long Director of Network Operations alan.l...@aerowire.net 687 North Dean Road Auburn, AL 36830 tel: 3342759998 mobile: 336092 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 4:23 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] router to load balance 2 wan connections Hi Alan, Do you anticipate needing BGP now, or in the future? What are the link speeds? How much overall throughput will the router need to handle? What pricepoint are you looking for? Jeff ImageStream -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Alan Long Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 5:20 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] router to load balance 2 wan connections I am looking for a router to load balance 2 wan connections and support 450 users behind the router. I will be bringing in 2 external circuits from different providers and want to be able to use both. Any have any experience with gear to handle this? http://www.aerowire.net Alan Long Director of Network Operations Aerowire http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?Pyt=Tmapaddr=687+North+Dean+Roadcsz=Aubu rn%2C+AL+36830country=us 687 North Dean Road Auburn, AL 36830 mailto:alan.l...@aerowire.net alan.l...@aerowire.net tel: mobile: http://www.plaxo.com/click_to_call?lang=ensrc=jj_signatureTo=3342759998E mail=along5...@yahoo.com 3342759998 http://www.plaxo.com/click_to_call?lang=ensrc=jj_signatureTo=336092E mail=along5...@yahoo.com 336092 https://www.plaxo.com/add_me?u=30065206883src=client_sig_212_1_card_joini nvite=1=en Always have my latest info http://www.plaxo.com/signature?src=client_sig_212_1_card_sig=en Want a signature like this? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.2/2074 - Release Date: 04/22/09 08:49:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] router to load balance 2 wan connections
Been doing it wrong. I did a university with 24 DSL connections :( Took a while, works great. * --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member* *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training/* http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp The information transmitted (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is intended only for the person(s) or entity/entities to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited, If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Josh Luthman wrote: Unless someone knows a secret script I would avoid using MT for this - I've seen minimal success with multiple WANs on MT. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Alan Long alan.l...@aerowire.net wrote: No bgp. Link will be 20-30mb/s circuits. We currently run about 450 users across a 20mb wireless think. Aerowire Alan Long Director of Network Operations alan.l...@aerowire.net 687 North Dean Road Auburn, AL 36830 tel: 3342759998 mobile: 336092 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 4:23 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] router to load balance 2 wan connections Hi Alan, Do you anticipate needing BGP now, or in the future? What are the link speeds? How much overall throughput will the router need to handle? What pricepoint are you looking for? Jeff ImageStream -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Alan Long Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 5:20 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] router to load balance 2 wan connections I am looking for a router to load balance 2 wan connections and support 450 users behind the router. I will be bringing in 2 external circuits from different providers and want to be able to use both. Any have any experience with gear to handle this? http://www.aerowire.net Alan Long Director of Network Operations Aerowire http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?Pyt=Tmapaddr=687+North+Dean+Roadcsz=Aubu rn%2C+AL+36830country=ushttp://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?Pyt=Tmapaddr=687+North+Dean+Roadcsz=Aubu%0Arn%2C+AL+36830country=us 687 North Dean Road Auburn, AL 36830 mailto:alan.l...@aerowire.net alan.l...@aerowire.net tel: mobile: http://www.plaxo.com/click_to_call?lang=ensrc=jj_signatureTo=3342759998E mail=along5...@yahoo.comhttp://www.plaxo.com/click_to_call?lang=ensrc=jj_signatureTo=3342759998e%0amail=along5...@yahoo.com 3342759998 http://www.plaxo.com/click_to_call?lang=ensrc=jj_signatureTo=336092E mail=along5...@yahoo.comhttp://www.plaxo.com/click_to_call?lang=ensrc=jj_signatureTo=336092e%0amail=along5...@yahoo.com 336092 https://www.plaxo.com/add_me?u=30065206883src=client_sig_212_1_card_joini nvite=1https://www.plaxo.com/add_me?u=30065206883src=client_sig_212_1_card_joini%0Anvite=1=en Always have my latest info http://www.plaxo.com/signature?src=client_sig_212_1_card_sig=en Want a signature like this? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.2/2074 - Release Date: 04/22/09 08:49:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?
unltil it his 100% and stays there, its not overloaded hahahaha . * --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member* *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training/* http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp The information transmitted (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is intended only for the person(s) or entity/entities to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited, If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Kurt Fankhauser wrote: I have a RB600 here that I've taken a screenshot of. No interfaces are bridged, everything is routed and I'm noticing some lag in the traffic that passes though this device during peak use. I suspect that the 41 RIP routes might have something to do with it as actual throughput isn't that much sometimes topping out around 8Mbps. Just want to hear from others and if there is any suggestions on how I might speed this up let me know. CPU usage on it is around 40-50%. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?
Part of the 5.2 band. All of the radar patters are in MT, just not certified. * --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member* *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training/* http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp The information transmitted (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is intended only for the person(s) or entity/entities to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited, If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Gino Villarini wrote: 5180.hmmm!!! Not to bust anyones head but you are using an uncertified device on an illegal channel Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Apr 20, 2009, at 3:20 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Gino - Top right corner. Did the CPU just jump or has it casually been like that? I've never had 5 radios in any board, I don't know if that would cause a lot of usage or not. Most any MT box I've seen is 5% CPU. A lot of NAT as was mentioned would be the first place I'd look. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Kevin Neal ke...@safelink.net wrote: Is this doing any NAT? Is connection tracking enabled? Do you have all unneeded packages disabled? We have a few RB600's out there and they do fine for the most part, we don't do any wireless on the 600's and all of them have the 564 daughterboard in them. -Kevin Neal -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 12:50 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] is this router overloaded? I have a RB600 here that I've taken a screenshot of. No interfaces are bridged, everything is routed and I'm noticing some lag in the traffic that passes though this device during peak use. I suspect that the 41 RIP routes might have something to do with it as actual throughput isn't that much sometimes topping out around 8Mbps. Just want to hear from others and if there is any suggestions on how I might speed this up let me know. CPU usage on it is around 40-50%. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question
You could also use http://www.linktechs.net/speca.asp. This you can plug into a PC and log without issues as well. There is also some recording in the hand held too. Advantage of this is that it does 10mhz to 6GHz . At least its less than 3k! * --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member* *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training/* http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp The information transmitted (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is intended only for the person(s) or entity/entities to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited, If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Charles Wyble wrote: The WiSPY picks up radar signals? Eje Gustafsson wrote: The Wi-SPY devices are fairly affordable. And they support remote monitoring both with Windows and Linux. So you could set one up in a small linux box that you leave on site and just let it log and you can view the data remotely from your Windows machine over the network or go and pickup the unit and view the log data that way. So will do just what you want. Also the frequency resolution the Wi-Spy devices offer is better then what I normally set my real SA on when I check out radio cards or check out signals. Very capable devices IMO there is no reason why a WISP shouldn't have at least one of these in their toolbox. I can understand why many do not want to buy a expensive spectrum analyzer for $3k+ for the simpler ones but in all reality be able to track down signal sources and interference as a WISP is a must. I know some people are using like Canopy SM's to do this but they interface is slow and clunky and don't log any data. / Eje Gustafsson WISP-Router, Inc. http://store.wisp-router.com/items.asp?Cc=WiFiToolsBc= -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Adam Goodman Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 3:51 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question I had some trouble with radar (think it was radar) last year. Interferences could be from many sources. It sa problem because you can't just go sit there for a couple of weeks with a spectrum analyzer listening for noise. It would be nice if there was a reasonably priced logger. Or with Internet connectivity. All this is probably a pipe dream as I have never seen anything with such functionality. On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: Anyone know of a radio that can just listen passively and scan through channels and report back on radar signals heard on what frequencies? That would be a great tool to have to scope out certain areas of interest to know ahead of time what radar DFS issues might be present... Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message From: Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 4:30 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gell Cell? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?
This woudl be better, as you have a metal indoor case around it. * --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member* *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training/* http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp The information transmitted (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is intended only for the person(s) or entity/entities to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited, If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Do you think that having each card on a RB433 while being installed into an indoor enclosure with only 1 card per routerboard with foil around the indoor enclosure will solve the self-interference? Assuming that the RB433's are still stacked onto each other. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 4:55 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded? Plus that many radios that close together is a almost a guaranteed to create self interference especially if they are high power radio cards. Those are according to MAC Compex radios they do have some highpower but most are not so might not really be a problem. I seen people that put XR5 or SR5 radios for example in the MT's on a single board in a metal enclosure that create self interference between the radios from what it seems either just to strong side lobes or a internal clock frequency leakage between the radios. Putting alu foil between the radios helped out but wasn't until one radio was moved to it's own box the problem completely was resolved in once instance. Depending on the powers of the card and it's side lobes you might need 60+MHz separation between the center channels in non turbo mode. In this case here one radio card is on 5745 and the other is on 5785 which means 40Mhz between center channels or total of 20MHz between the channels. Not very much for the side lobes. If anyone looks at a 802.11a or g signal on a SA you will quickly understand why 20MHz might not be enough and why you might need at least 40MHz between the edges of the signal. And on top of this both of these cards are very busy from the look of it (one backhaul for the entire system and the other just a very busy AP). / Eje _ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 3:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded? IMHO, too many radios for the cpu speed. I don't go more than 3 radio for a cpu 1GHz Kurt Fankhauser wrote: I have a RB600 here that I've taken a screenshot of. No interfaces are bridged, everything is routed and I'm noticing some lag in the traffic that passes though this device during peak use. I suspect that the 41 RIP routes might have something to do with it as actual throughput isn't that much sometimes topping out around 8Mbps. Just want to hear from others and if there is any suggestions on how I might speed this up let me know. CPU usage on it is around 40-50%. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com _ _ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!
Re: [WISPA] Test - Ignore please
so ignored. * --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member* *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training/* http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp The information transmitted (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is intended only for the person(s) or entity/entities to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited, If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. John Scrivner wrote: WISPA list server check WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Promotion
Think he is saying that the tower does not have wireless service to it. He is looking to have a page that he can get calls on, then, when there is enough interest he will worry about getting net to it ;) * --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member* *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training/* http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp The information transmitted (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is intended only for the person(s) or entity/entities to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited, If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. John Scrivner wrote: Why not go ahead and sell them the service over this? Just have it take them to the signup page and process their credit card, add to radius, activate service? Scriv On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com wrote: I got towers. Lots of them. Many don't have any kind of wireless service anywhere close, some don't have any kind of high speed service of any kind. I would like to put up on some of them, for a fairly short period of time, something like a hotspot, say a cheap router that people can connect to, they see a splash page that says If you are intersted in HIGH SPEED WIRELESS service, please call 800-467-2346 Then we could log the calls, take their information, and if enough calls were recieved we could start talking to WISPS in adjoining areas to see if someone might be interested in providing service there. A market study if you will. Who makes a cheap box that I could hook to an OMNI with such a thing? Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
