Re: [WISPA] Prevailing Wage

2013-03-18 Thread Forbes Mercy
I lived under that act when I was a Fire Chief. Anything I built was a public 
works project. Royal pain and ridiculous to inflate the cost of a project just 
because it's government quite the scam.

Sent via my over priced cell phone! 

 Original message 
From: Nathan Stooke nstooke...@wisperisp.com 
Date:  
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org 
Subject: [WISPA] Prevailing Wage 
 
Hello,

We are working on several wireless and security camera proposals for 
municipalities in our area, Illinois.  The question has been raised about 
Prevailing Wage and if we have to pay it.  When looking into it, it looks like 
we do.  All $44/hour to any one that works on the project.

I do not want to get people all up in arms about the Prevailing Wage act.  That 
is a discussion we can have at a WISPA show after hours.  :)

Has anyone had to deal with this?  Did you get a for sure answers yes or no?   
Where you audited and survived?

Thanks   
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Re: [WISPA] Fiber Transport in Washington State

2013-03-12 Thread Forbes Mercy
NOAANet does that among others.

Forbes Mercy
Washington Broadband

On 3/12/2013 10:49 AM, Jeromie Reeves wrote:
 I am looking for some transport from Seattle (Westin) to Walla Walla.
 Anyone know who might be able to provide this?

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Re: [WISPA] Data-Alliance.net Horror story w/ Air Fiber

2012-12-17 Thread Forbes Mercy
I have a pair if you want them.
Forbes Mercy
Washington Broadband


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 17, 2012, at 6:04 PM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote:

 So... I really needed an Air Fiber for an important project that was time 
 sensitive...
 
 Go to the UBNT tool and see who has stock, I very specifically put HAS TO BE 
 US VERSION in the notes.
 
 George Hardesty from there emails me that his company Data-Alliance.net has 
 them in stock.
 
 I send an email directly back to his, asking specifically, you have the US 
 version in stock?  He emails back, yes he has verified that he has US version 
 in stock.
 
 I buy it.  I wait a week.  It shows up and low and behold its the 
 international version.  Woohoo, just wasted my time and money and project is 
 not happening when I promised customer.  That should not have happened when I 
 specifically asked twice for him to verify what I was buying before hand.
 
 It gets better.  Of course I had AMEX open chargeback on the purchase because 
 I already lost time, money and possibly new customer on this inexcusable 
 botched shipment.  I called George and let him know this and that I expected 
 them to pay for shipping back as well because it was 100% his fault.  He then 
 informs me he has the US version and can ship it out to fix my problem and 
 will also include shipping label for the wrong air fiber return.  Great, 
 seems reasonable - at least there is light at the end of the one week delay.  
  I get with AMEX and have them drop the dispute.   I get shipping label and 
 return product to him after waiting in line at UPS (bad time of year to ship 
 stuff).  George send me tracking info for new US air fiber (I had him double 
 check again, before shipping the second time as you might imagine). Ok, I am 
 assured everything is good and the correct part is now on its way.  Supposed 
 to arrive today  I check tracking this evening because package never 
 arrived, but hey, its baout xmas maybe they are working late?  Nope - Mr 
 Hardesty called UPS and had the package returned to sender.  LOL  - seriously?
 
 Now I'm late on the project twice and customer thinks this is some sort of 
 new hobby for me.  I'm not happy.  And I sure as heck won't make the mistake 
 of ordering something from Data-Alliance.net again since they are obviously 
 lacking integrity and competence in several departments.  I just can't 
 believe after having discussed all this with him several times, and us both 
 potentially having everything work out acceptably that he pulled this and 
 didn't even bother to communicate with me so I could have at the very least 
 saved another lost day.  Now I start over, third time...
 
 /End rant
 
 
 
 Scott Carullo
 Technical Operations
 855-FLSPEED x102
 
 
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[WISPA] Have you got your shopping list ready?

2012-10-19 Thread Forbes Mercy
Hello Members,

I have a shopping list started for WISPPALOOZA, I will be interviewing 
companies to buy a new billing system (mine is 18 years old), I am 
interested in expanding into surveillance monitoring and in-home 
management systems for our installers to add to our services. Also I 
want to look at cloud services for remote back-up and of course check 
out the new radio gear from my favorite manufacturers.

This isn't an invitation for vendors to contact me off-list because I 
will see you when I roam the exhibitor floor next week so please don't 
load up my inbox.  I'm just saying to all WISP's think of the services 
you can add to your business and join us to provide the support our 
vendors deserve for being members of WISPA.  See you next week in Vegas!

Forbes Mercy
WISPA VP/Legislative Chair

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Re: [WISPA] Oh Great take from the poor and give to the rich!

2012-08-30 Thread Forbes Mercy

  
  
Chris,

Let me reason this out with you and Jack. I've always felt WISPA is
too conservative in simply making filings and a rare visit. I've
felt that education of our Congressional members has helped them
remember us when staff reviews new laws. What we haven't done is
bear any pressure or seek to make our issues into the public
consciousness. 

This is an election year, a rare moment when small issues become
campaign promises (whether kept or not). I will only touch on
politics for a moment, keep in mind a Democrat FCC Chairman is proud
that he converted USF to CAF and seeks to expand it's revenue by
adding broadband. The Republicans are screaming for 'no new tax'
issues, just last night Ryan called out Corporate Welfare. Here we
are with this huge outdated tax and the FCC wants to make it bigger
by taxing a whole new industry. The main points we can make are:

1) Congress said no tax on the Internet and now the FCC wants to go
around them and tax the Internet anyway
2) 100% of the new tax would go to corporate welfare not directly
helping a single tax payer, it's socialized Internet
3) The Telco industry isn't even a Broadband company, they are a
telephone company no more than cable is an Internet company. At
least cable got investors to build their networks, telco wants the
government to pay for all of their expansion.
4) The cost of Wireless to expand to areas is a fraction of the cost
of wireline but is being completely left out.

I think a properly briefed politician could get excited about
helping to push our agenda, make it public and dramatically raise
the profile of our discussion. Imagine a politician who took a
pledge of no new taxes having to take on the burden of having
approved a new tax in CAF. There is nothing radical about taking
advantage of opportunities and the election cycle seems primed for
our issues. Politics is always a radical and risky proposition but
no one here has yet to say how this will hurt us other to say it's
risky. I'm all ears.

Forbes 

On 8/29/2012 11:37 AM, chris cooper wrote:

  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
I wouldnt do that in
  the pre
  election climate. It
  seems like it could
  be taken a couple of different ways, any one of which
  might alienate 50% of
  your customers.

cc

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  Of Forbes Mercy
  Sent:
  Wednesday, August 29, 2012
  2:25 PM
  To:
  wireless@wispa.org;
  fcccommit...@wispa.org
  Subject: Re:
  [WISPA] Oh Great take
  from the poor and give to the rich!

I wonder if it would benefit us
  to
  send a "New Tax Coming to a Constituent Near You" release
  where in
  this era of taxes being waged to pay off debt, a new tax
  is being proposed by
  the FCC to the broadband industry which will only serve to
  subsidize the
  telephone industry with broadband deriving zero benefit?
  Instead of
  defensive it's a pro-active move where politicians running
  under a no new taxes
  platform will have to roll it in.
  
  I know the FCC wouldn't be thrilled with us but we've felt
  all along the USF to
  CAF conversion was just the FCC helping the Telco industry
  to do a hostile
  takeover of our broadband industry with government aid and
  we shouldn't be
  afraid to say it.
  
  Forbes
  
  On 8/28/2012 2:28 PM, Jack Unger wrote: 
Throw
  out that word
  "tax" and everyone gets all excited but this is really old
  news and
  not really any news at all. Just the transition of the USF
  program (subsidies
  to extend phone service to rural areas) into the CAF
  program where the
  subsidies will now go to extend broadband service to the
  boonies. WISPA has
  made a ton of FCC filings on this already. Most of them
  are defensive in nature
  (preventing WISPs from being overbuilt) but a few are
  offensive - trying to
  open up the possibilities for WISPs that want subsidies
  (most don't) to get
  them. 
 

Re: [WISPA] Oh Great take from the poor and give to the rich!

2012-08-29 Thread Forbes Mercy

  
  
I wonder if it would benefit us to send a "New Tax Coming to a
Constituent Near You" release where in this era of taxes being waged
to pay off debt, a new tax is being proposed by the FCC to the
broadband industry which will only serve to subsidize the telephone
industry with broadband deriving zero benefit? Instead of defensive
it's a pro-active move where politicians running under a no new
taxes platform will have to roll it in.

I know the FCC wouldn't be thrilled with us but we've felt all along
the USF to CAF conversion was just the FCC helping the Telco
industry to do a hostile takeover of our broadband industry with
government aid and we shouldn't be afraid to say it.

Forbes

On 8/28/2012 2:28 PM, Jack Unger wrote:

  
  Throw out that word "tax" and
  everyone gets all excited but this is really old news and not
  really any news at all. Just the transition of the USF program
  (subsidies to extend phone service to rural areas) into the
  CAF program where the subsidies will now go to extend
  broadband service to the boonies. WISPA has made a ton of FCC
  filings on this already. Most of them are defensive in nature
  (preventing WISPs from being overbuilt) but a few are
  offensive - trying to open up the possibilities for WISPs that
  want subsidies (most don't) to get them. 
  
  jack
  
  

  On 8/28/2012 1:20 PM, Jim Patient
wrote:
  
  





  http://www.ijreview.com/2012/08/13896-fcc-may-soon-tax-internet-service/
  
  Jim Patient
  Link Technologies, Inc.
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  http://towercoverage.com
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity ... Stock Price .. News ...

2012-08-10 Thread Forbes Mercy

It's down to $8.88!

On 8/10/2012 7:04 AM, James Howard wrote:


The lower the price, the more shares they can buy back with the $100M 
repurchase.  That will also flush out some of the whiny investors who 
don't really have any faith in the company.


*From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
*On Behalf Of *Brad Belton

*Sent:* Friday, August 10, 2012 8:11 AM
*To:* 'WISPA General List'
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity ... Stock Price .. News ...

It will be interesting to watch today and Monday...that's for sure!  
They beat their earnings, warn about the effects of counterfeited 
product and announce they intend to take this opportunity to buy back 
$100M worth of shares.


Brad

*From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
mailto:[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Matt Hoppes

*Sent:* Friday, August 10, 2012 3:54 AM
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Eh. I plan to reinvest heavily. The CEO is planning to purchase a ton 
of stock. Why wouldn't he want it to go low?



On Aug 10, 2012, at 0:19, George Rogato wi...@oregonfast.net 
mailto:wi...@oregonfast.net wrote:


After hours had a low of $6.90

http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/ubnt/after-hours

There was a lot of transactions.



On 8/9/2012 7:05 PM, Brad Belton wrote:

Agreed. I almost hit that $9ish range a week or so ago, but my
order was just a bit too late.  My stake in UBNT is very
small, but have been averaging down and it's been entertaining
at the very least to watch.  Hoping to acquire a few more
shares tomorrow if the price is right!

Vegas or the stock market...almost the same entertainment
rush...lol

Brad

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mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Sam Tetherow
*Sent:* Thursday, August 09, 2012 5:58 PM
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*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity ... Stock Price .. News ...

If you still have faith in the company, now is a good time to
buy down your cost basis.

On 08/09/2012 05:44 PM, Doug Clark wrote:

Have you ever had 100,000 barrels of oil that you purchased at
110.00 per barrel that you are sitting on and then overnight

the price per barrel drops to 75.00 per barrel?  ON SALE
HUH??  ATT1

/---Original Message---/

*/From:/*Zach Mann mailto:zma...@gmail.com

*/Date:/*8/9/2012 4:45:42 PM

*/To:/*WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org

*/Subject:/*Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity ... Stock Price .. News ...

Sweet! It's on sale...

On Aug 9, 2012 5:40 PM, Doug Clark d...@txox.com
mailto:d...@txox.com wrote:

I just suddenly got very illATT2

/---Original Message---/

*/From:/*Faisal Imtiaz mailto:fai...@snappydsl.net

*/Date:/*8/9/2012 4:31:54 PM

*/To:/*WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org

*/Subject:/*[WISPA] Ubiquity ... Stock Price .. News ...

OUCH !

Anyone following this stuff...

http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/ubnt

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Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 tel:305%20663%205518%20x%20232

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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity ... Stock Price .. News ...

2012-08-09 Thread Forbes Mercy

  
  
Another possibility is that there is
  always a date when those who got to buy early in the IPO and
  management who were gifted or had a chance to buy early stock get
  to start cashing out. That day could have been reached.
  
  Forbes
  
  On 8/9/2012 4:25 PM, Jack Unger wrote:


  
  Could be multiple reasons for
  such a sharp, instant and unnatural drop. 
  
  1. The reason the trade press gives often is not the real
  reason but a cover story intended for the masses. 
  
  2. Manipulating the price of anything these days (stocks,
  gold, etc.) can and is done by any entity through leveraged,
  computer-programmed buying and selling. 
  
  A drop as steep and as sudden as UBNT says that either 
  
  a) A huge number of holders of the stock all decided to unload
  it at the very same exact instant (the chances of this are
  little to none), or 
  
  b) The price was manipulated downward intentionally. I have no
  idea who would want to do this, right? UBNT (and the WISP
  industry) have absolutely no enemies, right?
  
  jack
  
  

  On 8/9/2012 4:04 PM, Doug Clark
wrote:
  
  




  

  

  

  http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ubiquiti-plunges-as-counterfeits-hurt-outlook-2012-08-09

  
  


  


  
  
  
---Original
Message---


  From:
Zach Mann
  Date:
8/9/2012 5:02:32 PM
  To:
WISPA General
  List
  Subject:
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity ... Stock Price .. News ...


What news or report caused the sell off ?
On Aug 9, 2012 5:57 PM,
  "Sam Tetherow" tethe...@shwisp.net

  wrote:
  
If you
  still have faith in the company, now is a good
  time to buy down your cost basis.
  
  On 08/09/2012 05:44 PM, Doug Clark wrote:
  

  

  

  
Have you ever had 100,000
  barrels of oil that you
  purchased at 110.00 per
  barrelthat you are sitting on
  and then overnight
the price per barrel drops
  to75.00 per barrel? ON SALE
  HUH??


  


  
  
  
---Original
Message---


  From:
Zach Mann
  Date:
8/9/2012 4:45:42 PM
  To:
WISPA
  General List
  Subject:
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity ...
Stock Price .. News ...


Sweet! It's on sale... 
On Aug
  9, 2012 5:40 PM, "Doug Clark"
  d...@txox.com

  wrote:
 

Re: [WISPA] Wispa Press Release

2012-07-11 Thread Forbes Mercy
I think the comments on the story yesterday is what compelled them to do 
this story so nice job!

Forbes

On 7/11/2012 2:04 PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote:
 http://www.telecompetitor.com/wisps-target-centurylink-connect-america-fund/

 It would be a good idea to continue to engage with comments.  Please be
 nice!

 Kudos to Matt Larson for the interview!

 Regards,

 Jeff
 Sales Manager, Blue Technology
 574-935-8484 x106 (US/Can)
 574-220-7826 (Cell)
 +1 574-935-8484 (Int'l)

 -Original Message-
 From: members-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
 Of Jeff Broadwick - Lists
 Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 9:22 AM
 To: memb...@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA Members] (no subject)

 http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/-1678478.htm

 WISPA's press release about CenturyLink's attempt to use federal money to
 overbuild existing WISPs.


 Regards,

 Jeff


 Jeff Broadwick
 Sales Manager, Blue Technology
 574-935-8484 x106 (US/Can)
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Re: [WISPA] 4g?

2012-05-23 Thread Forbes Mercy
Since the true standard for 4G is 100MBps it makes perfect that Sprint 
has 5G coming soon, a vapor standard.  The techies have lost out to the 
marketing people once again, next they will find a way to show false 
speed tests like old AOL days when your port showed 115200 instead of 
the actual speed you were getting on modem connections so they could say 
they were faster than you 56K reading.  If deceptive advertising were an 
art the Cellco's are Picasso in all his abstract glory.


Forbes

On 5/23/2012 3:28 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
ATT 4G is what we call FauxG.  It's fake 4G.  On the iPhones they are 
now calling HSDPA+ 4G, when a few months ago it was still considered 
3G.  Now on their coverage map, 4G LTE is listed separately.  There is 
limited LTE ATT 4G in the US at this time, only in the big major 
cities.  Not even available anywhere in KY for example.


Regards,
Chuck


On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Victoria Proffer 
victo...@stlbroadband.com mailto:victo...@stlbroadband.com wrote:


I am seeing some of ATT 4G in my area, which is very heavy tree
canopy, and we are seeing 200 ms latency ...

I don't see how that can work very well.

Victoria Proffer

STLWiMAX, LLC http://www.stlwimax.com/

314-720-1000 tel:314-720-1000

*From:*Jason Bailey [mailto:j284...@yahoo.com
mailto:j284...@yahoo.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, May 23, 2012 5:11 PM
*To:* victo...@stlbroadband.com
mailto:victo...@stlbroadband.com; WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] 4g?

700/800 MHz  with an outdoor antenna?

--- On *Wed, 5/23/12, Victoria Proffer /victo...@stlbroadband.com
mailto:victo...@stlbroadband.com/* wrote:


From: Victoria Proffer victo...@stlbroadband.com
mailto:victo...@stlbroadband.com
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 4g?
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
mailto:wireless@wispa.org
Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2012, 6:09 PM

How does this fair in heavy tree canopy?

Victoria Proffer

STLWiMAX, LLC http://www.stlwimax.com/

314-720-1000 tel:314-720-1000

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mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Jason Bailey
*Sent:* Wednesday, May 23, 2012 5:06 PM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] 4g?

Anyone remember when sprint did this? The support headache killed
it quickly

--- On *Wed, 5/23/12, Gino Villarini /g...@aeronetpr.com
http://mc/compose?to=g...@aeronetpr.com/* wrote:


From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com
http://mc/compose?to=g...@aeronetpr.com
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 4g?
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
http://mc/compose?to=wireless@wispa.org
Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2012, 6:04 PM

Old

News

Sent from my Motorola Startac...


On May 23, 2012, at 5:42 PM, Jason Bailey j284...@yahoo.com
mailto:j284...@yahoo.com wrote:


http://www.mlive.com/business/index.ssf/2012/05/new_rural_internet_option_veri.html


Nice

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Re: [WISPA] Help coming up with company name....

2012-05-10 Thread Forbes Mercy

I came up with Wireless Guardians but Victoria's is really catchy!

Forbes

On 5/10/2012 10:04 AM, Victoria Proffer wrote:


Wi-Eye ... =))

Victoria Proffer

STLWiMAX, LLC http://www.stlwimax.com/

314-720-1000

*From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
*On Behalf Of *Zach Mann

*Sent:* Thursday, May 10, 2012 11:20 AM
*To:* wireless@wispa.org
*Subject:* [WISPA] Help coming up with company name

Brainstorm time,

Do any of you have suggestions for a company name, obviously involving 
wireless, networks, surveillance etc ?  Trying to come up with a good 
name.  Open to any suggestions.


Thanks in advance

-Zach



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Re: [WISPA] CTIA keynote Genachosky 3.5 ghz for small cells

2012-05-08 Thread Forbes Mercy
If anyone has first hand knowledge of this announcement please let us 
know, the FCC Committee Meeting is in progress right now and we'd sure 
like to have an accurate basis for discussion on if the 3550 is going 
away from us.


Thanks,
Forbes

On 5/8/2012 8:46 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:

Not much details offered. I assume theyll auction it

Sent from my Motorola Startac...


On May 8, 2012, at 10:44 AM, Doug Clark d...@txox.com 
mailto:d...@txox.com wrote:


elaborate please.  That freq was slated to #1 to be auctioned off or 
the FCC 2nd choice was to include it in the licensed lite band..

/---Original Message---/
/*From:*/ Gino Villarini mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com
/*Date:*/ 5/8/2012 9:34:02 AM
/*To:*/ WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org; a...@afmug.com 
mailto:a...@afmug.com

/*Subject:*/ [WISPA] CTIA keynote Genachosky 3.5 ghz for small cells
WTF...
Just announced that 100+ MHz on 3.5 ghz will be for Small Cells
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Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirFiber Radio Pics

2012-03-23 Thread Forbes Mercy

I read that it was for a pair, is that incorrect?

On 3/23/2012 10:14 AM, Doug Clark wrote:

2999.00 per link!
/---Original Message---/
/*From:*/ Zach Mann mailto:zma...@gmail.com
/*Date:*/ 3/23/2012 11:13:51 AM
/*To:*/ WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org
/*Subject:*/ Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirFiber Radio Pics

Price range ?  :)

On Mar 23, 2012 12:06 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com 
mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:


700 mbps fdx, 1.4 Gig Agg

24Ghz

Gino A. Villarini

g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com

Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

787.273.4143 tel:787.273.4143

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[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Zach Mann

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*Cc:* a...@afmug.com mailto:a...@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirFiber Radio Pics

Nice.  Gig speeds ?

On Mar 23, 2012 12:01 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com 
mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:


Gino A. Villarini

g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com

Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

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Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.

2012-03-16 Thread Forbes Mercy
I'm just curious what is keeping MT or UBNT out of the licensed low cost 
radio business?  Is it FCC Certification because it surely can't be 
quality of equipment reasons?


Happy Friday and St. Patty's Day,

Forbes

On 3/16/2012 7:11 AM, Travis Johnson wrote:

Hi,

Licensed 11ghz with 2ft to 4ft dishes. $15,000 per hop.

Travis


On 3/16/2012 7:52 AM, Ryan Ghering wrote:
I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their 
offerings
for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of 100Mbps 
to 1Gbps.


I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops.

Hop 1: 2 miles
Hop 2: 2.8 miles
Hop 3: 5.6 miles
Hop 4: 2.6 miles
Hop 5: 2.6 miles

Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8

Please call my Cell listed below.

--
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Re: [WISPA] FS

2012-03-02 Thread Forbes Mercy

How much?

Forbes

On 3/2/2012 8:47 AM, brandon jolley wrote:

Hello

I have a Rocket M365 and M900 New in the box for sale.
thanks
Brandon


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Re: [WISPA] FS

2012-03-02 Thread Forbes Mercy
While I appreciate that you don't want to lose money I can buy those for 
that price from my local dealer, I don't need them immediately so I'll pass.


Thanks,
Forbes

On 3/2/2012 9:03 AM, brandon jolley wrote:

Hi
365-$170
900-$160



On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Forbes Mercy 
forbes.me...@wabroadband.com mailto:forbes.me...@wabroadband.com 
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How much?

Forbes


On 3/2/2012 8:47 AM, brandon jolley wrote:

Hello

I have a Rocket M365 and M900 New in the box for sale.
thanks
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[WISPA] Be In The KNOW - Come See How We're Saving Your Business at ISP America

2012-03-02 Thread Forbes Mercy
TO OUR MEMBERS AND THOSE WHO SHOULD BE,

As I pack my bags for another trip to Washington DC from far away 
Washington State I wanted to remind members of what WISPA does for you.  
I will be meeting with the offices of two Senators, a Congressman, the 
NTIA Chief of Staff, FCC's Mapping Chief, the author of the 50 Billion 
Unlicensed Study and more next week.  Based on the results we've had in 
the past with making sure Unlicensed stays a part of the National debate 
in the Spectrum Legislation just passed, and inclusion in everything 
from USF to helping fellow WISP's during disasters there is no 
organization representing your future better than WISPA.

Attending our Trade Shows gives us the financial ability to have a 
constant and powerful voice in Washington D.C.. Politicians, regulators, 
and the big Corporate bullies would like nothing better than to 
micro-manage and restrict your ability to make money and have fair rules 
to work with.  Additionally the trade shows is where we can let you 
know, and have direct contact with those who are setting the direction 
of this industry on your behalf.  We always need that feedback to make 
sure we truly represent and gain your ideas of how we can make the life 
of WISP's and our Vendors easier to do business.

The time to get reasonable air fares is getting tight so I ask that you 
sign up for ISP America at http://www.wispa.org/ispamerica-2012 and make 
your flight or other reservations today.  Don't forget to attend my 
Regulatory Creep session and the many other great sessions in every 
aspect of Wireless.

The value you will get from our show will educate both you and us as how 
we can be a force to continue our mission of introducing progressive 
technology to the American public, plus make a damn fine living at it!  
I hope to see you in Florida, have a great weekend!

Thank you,
Forbes Mercy
WISPA VP/Legislative Chair
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Re: [WISPA] If radios act weird today...

2012-01-24 Thread Forbes Mercy
Maybe some of those solar particles could penetrate this continual day 
to day snow we're having and recharge my solar sites! :)

Forbes

On 1/24/2012 6:57 AM, ~V~ wrote:
 Check out the incoming particles this bad boy is bringing.
 http://youtu.be/01SEGNfK_58

 ~V~

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 8:38 AM
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 Subject: Re: [WISPA] If radios act weird today...

 Same. It could eventually happen, but I haven't seen any consequence of it.

 -
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 Intelligent Computing Solutions
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 On 1/24/2012 8:08 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
 YAWN.  I have yet to see a solar flare cause issues  not saying it
 won't... just saying the news media blows this stuff up every time.


 Matt Hoppes
 Director of Information Technology
 Indigo Wireless
 +1 (570) 723-7312

 On 1/24/12 8:53 AM, Bret Clark wrote:
 Solar flare blasts radiation storm toward Earth


 http://news.cnet.com/8301-11386_3-57364089-76/solar-flare-blasts-radiation-s
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Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality, in this case USF

2011-11-01 Thread Forbes Mercy
Nice job!  You said most of our talking points on this, I only wish all 
Congress would remember where they come from and give their WISP a call, 
maybe more members could do what you did and initiate the call to get 
the dialogue started.  While USF is outside of Congress the FCC sure 
listens to them so it never hurts to educate Legislators to what the 
lobbyists for our competition fails to do, Fixed Wireless is a major player.

Thanks,
Forbes

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 Monday morning I got a phone call from a 202 number and answered it.   The
 name sounded vaguely familiar, but he finally identified himself as the
 assistant to my congressman.   Ahh, now I know why I recognize the name.
 Been in politics around here for many years.   State and federal.

 Thursday or Friday, I stumbled across a news story of my US Rep praising the
 FCC's changes to USF, which, from descriptions, look bad for me and most
 of us, as it involves subsidizing rural wireless (insert cellular for
 wireless and you get the gist) I was ticked as you can imagine, because
 he's literally from a small town where WISP's play a signficant role in
 broadband availablity.

 Well, I guess I must have used the right combination of words, because he
 (the assistant to my US Rep)  wanted to know what it was I thought.  Well,
 we had 20 minute conversation, where I explained that we as an industry are
 often the only viable operators for small niche areas where it simply is
 impossible to string wires or bury cables or whatever, in a cost effective
 manner (and he knows precisely what I mean, he drives the same roads and
 knows the same places I do), and now, someone's going to apply to get USF
 money to come and build right out over us, with subsidized funding.

 He didn't disagree with that assessment, btw, and asked what I thought
 should be done.   Abolish, of course.   In his view, the term of life for
 continual subsidy of rural telecom via USF has been abruptly shortened, and,
 they're at least talking about ending any continuous subsidy for anyone.  Of
 course, they can't end USF, because Congress made it law, but ending it is
 certainly an option in House, he implied.

 Further, we've reached the point where much of rural broadband is hampered
 by beaurocratic obstruction as much as anything else.  the need to use
 public land, or telephone pole access, or power pole access,  federal land
 use, and numerous other expensive and complicated matters.   I explained
 that it has traditionally been that people with great skill for beaurocracy
 get the money, but rarely seem to have great skill at getting customers
 happy and resourceful at accomplishing the technical challenges.  That
 subsidy causes business models to be built on it, rather than sustainable
 competitive operations.

 That we need the markets open to being able to enter the phone, tv, and
 internet business with whatever the appropriate technology, without endless
 hurdles in our way.   No idea if it did any good, but at least one person,
 who is at the top of the issues that matter to us in the house, got some
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Re: [WISPA] Who is staying the night of the 12th?

2011-09-15 Thread Forbes Mercy
Well Martha you know if anything techy happens you have about 600 
people here that will jump in a heartbeat for you!  I'll park Alex next 
to your house. :)


Forbes

On 9/15/2011 5:47 AM, Martha Huizenga wrote:
I'm going home on the last flight on the 12th (3:40 or something like 
that). Matt is staying for the UBNT seminar on the 13th and leaving on 
the afternoon flight on the 13th.


I hear ya on the operational issues. It's just us, so hopefully 
nothing too technically challenging happens on the 13th, while I'm 
here on my own. :-)



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On 9/15/2011 12:22 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
I can't recall any of the information, what dates are they?  I 
remember they follow but I don't want to stay for two whole weeks.  
Is everyone else staying for the following events?


Also remember I don't have anyone to help me here, it's all me 
operationally.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 12:15 AM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com 
mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:


You're not staying for Moto/UBNT/MUM?

Regards,

Chuck


On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:57 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

I'm not sure if 'm going to fly home after 3-4PM (show ends
then) on the 12th or stay another night and fly home on the 13th.

What is everyone else doing?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
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Re: [WISPA] Who is staying the night of the 12th?

2011-09-15 Thread Forbes Mercy
Guess I could have answered Josh's question in my last email.  I'll 
arrive Saturday afternoon, go home following Friday.  I'll be ready for 
my own bed since I'm going on vacation Sept 24th to Oct. 3, home three 
days then off to this.


Forbes

On 9/14/2011 8:57 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
I'm not sure if 'm going to fly home after 3-4PM (show ends then) on 
the 12th or stay another night and fly home on the 13th.


What is everyone else doing?

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Re: [WISPA] Seasickness guaranteed (no password)

2011-08-01 Thread Forbes Mercy
That's funny, we had a security camera torn off it's mount and stolen, 
we were all ready to have the very clear pic of the thief walking up to 
the camera and grabbing it.  Turns out our DVR wasn't recording THAT 
channel at THAT time, figures.  Well at least all he took was the camera 
and gave us the chance to fix the channel recording feature before they 
got something really valuable.


On 8/1/2011 6:15 PM, Jeremy Parr wrote:

Oh s%t! Someone is stealing the rig!

http://i.imgur.com/gDTkE.jpg

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mailto:tsharp...@qorvus.com wrote:


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Re: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire

2011-07-16 Thread Forbes Mercy
 Committee as we will be posting most of the
 Legislative work in that venue.  Thank you for your time and we
 appreciate you realizing the huge task we have ahead of us.

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[WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire

2011-07-15 Thread Forbes Mercy
TO WISP's

I'm not much of an alarmist and I would never claim the sky is falling 
unless I had positive proof.  Right now WISPA is faced with what I 
perceive as the most serious threat to our industry to date.  Some of 
you may complain that the FCC is an overreaching intruder into our 
business.  While Federal Government oversight and regulations into our 
rapidly growing industry may seem intrusive WISPA has always had their 
ear and we feel they listen and include us into much of their decision 
making process.  There is no doubt they truly want nation-wide service 
and recognize the lack of enthusiastic expansion by major players 
(legacy carriers) into the rural area which is our strongest argument.

Starting with Net Neutrality we noticed that Congress was starting to 
politicize the work of the FCC.  Some of you thought that was a good 
thing since you felt the FCC was slow in releasing frequencies.  The 
micro-management of the FCC on that first issue has rapidly grown to 
full fledged taking over of the FCC's mission.  Once the legacy 
characters found that they could go around the FCC to Congress, where 
they already give millions in donations, they knew they had one big 
leg up on small budget organizations like WISPA.  They are now flexing 
their full lobbying muscle by getting some 'friends' in Congress to 
introduce bills that would freeze any future expansion of the WISP 
market locking us out of the lower frequencies that we need to penetrate 
vegetation and terrain.  Much like teaching the Internet to your parents 
other legislators look at the new laws with dazed amazement and just say 
OK not realizing the ramifications and listening to the lobbyist spin.

WISPA is not sitting back on this one, last year our board was not 
afraid to go far out of budget to get our feet firmly in the door on 
issues such as TV White Spaces (TV White Spaces) and the Universal 
Service Fund change to Connect America Fund (CAF).  It appears all that 
work is now under scrutiny by Congress and their answer seems to be one 
of 'lets just put all frequencies up for bid, licensed and unlicensed'.  
None of us WISP's could afford to bid against the likes of ATT and 
Verizon and it has the potential of locking all small business out of 
any future frequencies.

Yesterday the Legislative, FCC, and Promotions Committee of WISPA got 
together and released a letter to all Congressional Members of several 
committees relevant to this battle, in addition we paid to have a formal 
press release sent to the media objecting to this path that both the 
Senate and House seem to be pursuing.  We are now interviewing potential 
Lobbyists (something we've never needed before) and, other firms that 
can help us with this new front we have to fight on.

Where WISPA will have to go to get the ear of Congress to stop this 
insane path is all new to us but we are up to the challange.  We have 
great legal counsel, members that can attend and testify hearings, 
allies in other groups such as New America feel the pain like us on this 
issue.  We will be making alliances, learning how to do social 
networking to reach our members, our members subscribers and, anyone who 
will side with us to form grass roots efforts to get the attention of 
Congress.  At this point we are not asking for a special assessment or 
other means to aggressively answer this call, we are within budget so 
far but it's hard to say how far this will go.  We simply are asking you 
to watch closely what we inform membership, prepare to be involved 
because unless you are content with the current frequencies and rules we 
are under you will directly be affected by this Congressional action.

If we give in to these irrational rules don't think Congress or the 
legacy characters will stop there, if they sell the revenue model 
successfully they could go after existing frequencies too.  WISPA will 
be releasing talking points next week so that you can help us by making 
appointments with your Congressperson while they are in district during 
the month of August.  We really need to educate them that this path is 
bad for America and their constituents.  If you need constant updates 
please join the Legislative Committee as we will be posting most of the 
Legislative work in that venue.  Thank you for your time and we 
appreciate you realizing the huge task we have ahead of us.

Forbes Mercy
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Cleared the Gmail account

2011-07-13 Thread Forbes Mercy

  
  
Email pack rat :)

On 7/13/2011 8:36 AM, Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181) wrote:

  
  
  
  Just another reason to use a real
  email account!
  
  I can store as much as my hard
  drive will allow :-)
  
  I forget what it's up to. I used
  to be able to burn a DVD as a backup, but that's not enough
  anymore.
  marlon
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: Josh Luthman 
To: WISPA General List 
Cc: motor...@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011
  10:30 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT:
  Cleared the Gmail account


I'm at 16GB of 25. I'm sure I would lose more then 3GB if I
deleted it all. How far back did you go? I'm afraid when I get
close to 25 I will need to start deleting messages, something I
loathe doing =(

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Jerry
  Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com
  wrote:
  

  
FYI, deleted all of my @afmug and
  @wispa messages and got back 3GB of storage.

Jerry Richardson 
925-260-4119 x2
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Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW

2011-04-02 Thread Forbes Mercy
I used a new Thunderbolt in Orlando during the CTIA show where Verizon 
turned up their 4G.  Speedtest.net gave a 9MB download and 38MB upload 
but when I went to run Pandora, it warned me it couldn't play the higher 
quality stream so basically it was an impressive 32byte ping but fell on 
it's face once you used it.  Unimpressed, that's why I refer to cell 
phone Internet as Play Internet


Forbes

On 4/2/2011 8:53 AM, Jeremie Chism wrote:
I'm sure its not loaded like the 3G system is here. Was fast the first 
day. Now not much.


Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 2, 2011, at 6:22 AM, Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com 
mailto:bcl...@spectraaccess.com wrote:


Do a real test and report back, like FTP. Ookla  Speedtest.net 
http://Speedtest.net test are bogus 99.9% percent of the time 
because it's based on screwy test algorithms.


On 04/01/2011 11:05 PM, Charles Wu wrote:


Just got my HTC Thunderbolt, and Ookla tested 20 Mb down, 24 Mb up 
at Speedtest.Net http://Speedtest.Net to my handset


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Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW

2011-04-02 Thread Forbes Mercy

I call it play because it can't be taken as serious Internet.

On 4/2/2011 11:55 AM, St. Louis Broadband wrote:


ØUnimpressed, that's why I refer to cell phone Internet as Play Internet

Forbes, don’t you mean “PAY Internet” … ;-)

*Victoria Proffer - President/CEO*

www.ShowMeBroadband.com

www.StLouisBroadband.com

www.FarmingtonForum.com http://farmingtonforum.com/

314-974-5600

*From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
*On Behalf Of *Forbes Mercy

*Sent:* Saturday, April 02, 2011 1:17 PM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW

I used a new Thunderbolt in Orlando during the CTIA show where Verizon 
turned up their 4G.  Speedtest.net gave a 9MB download and 38MB upload 
but when I went to run Pandora, it warned me it couldn't play the 
higher quality stream so basically it was an impressive 32byte ping 
but fell on it's face once you used it.  Unimpressed, that's why I 
refer to cell phone Internet as Play Internet


Forbes

On 4/2/2011 8:53 AM, Jeremie Chism wrote:

I'm sure its not loaded like the 3G system is here. Was fast the first 
day. Now not much.



Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 2, 2011, at 6:22 AM, Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com 
mailto:bcl...@spectraaccess.com wrote:


Do a real test and report back, like FTP. Ookla  Speedtest.net
http://Speedtest.net test are bogus 99.9% percent of the time
because it's based on screwy test algorithms.

On 04/01/2011 11:05 PM, Charles Wu wrote:

Just got my HTC Thunderbolt, and Ookla tested 20 Mb down, 24 Mb up
at Speedtest.Net http://Speedtest.Net to my handset

-Charles

  

  

  





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Re: [WISPA] Slow list?

2011-03-03 Thread Forbes Mercy
Well this is the only list that's been slow, the members list has been 
hopping with well over a hundred a day.  A quick reminder the General 
list is best used for help issues where people want to reach those who 
are AND are not members of WISPA, the hope is non-members will join and 
then they get the benefit of membership.  I find that when the members 
list gets hot the general one dies down, it's really a case of where the 
thread starts that's popular and takes off.  Has your post worked yet?


Forbes

On 3/2/2011 10:05 PM, Scottie Arnett wrote:
I got a total of list posts of 12 on 3/1 and a  total of 15 on 3/2? 
WTF? I know I placed a post and never received it on 3/1.

What is up with the lists?
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Re: [WISPA] Windows Upgrades

2011-03-03 Thread Forbes Mercy
Odd that they didn't mention that 7 wipes out most of XP programs like 
Photoshop.


On 3/3/2011 1:09 PM, Cliff Leboeuf wrote:

Early Friday fun…

Guy installed every version upgrade of windows from V1.0 (on MS-Dos 5) 
to Windows 7.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=vPnehDhGa14 
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[WISPA] NAB Asks Congress to Probe Dish, Time Warner for Spectrum Hoarding

2011-03-01 Thread Forbes Mercy


   NAB Asks Congress to Probe Dish, Time Warner for Spectrum Hoarding

By Maisie Ramsay Tuesday, March 1, 2011

The National Association of Broadcasters (NAB) is asking Congress to 
investigate Dish Network and Time Warner Cable over alleged spectrum 
hoarding.


The letter, sent to the ranking members of the House Energy and Commerce 
Committee and the Senate Commerce Committee, accuses Dish Network and 
Time Warner Cable of warehousing their spectrum licenses so they can 
sell them off at a huge profit to bandwidth-starved operators.


The NAB wants the lawmakers to investigate Dish Network, Time Warner 
Cable and other government agencies for potential cases of spectrum 
hoarding and financial speculation before allowing the FCC to move ahead 
with its proposed incentive auctions of television broadcast spectrum.


The pattern of spectrum speculation from Time Warner Cable and Dish 
Network is especially troubling given that the FCC's National Broadband 
Plan proclaimed a year ago that there is a 'looming spectrum crisis,' 
wrote NAB President and CEO Gordon Smith. If America is truly facing a 
spectrum shortage, then it is imperative that policymakers receive an 
unbiased and thorough report on how private companies like Dish, Time 
Warner Cable and government agencies are using or warehousing this 
precious resource.


Gordon's letter was prompted by comments from Dish Network CEO Charlie 
Ergen in the company's earnings call last week that suggested the 
company had no concrete plans for the spectrum, instead planning to let 
it sit idle and increase in value so it could be sold off at a profit.


Dish is working to buy bankrupt satellite company DBSD, which holds 
satellite spectrum licenses. When asked what Dish would do with the 
spectrum it could acquire through the DBSD deal, Ergen said the company 
believed that spectrum has value but there's not a grand strategy at 
this point.


Time Warner Cable has said it doesn't have any plans to sell or use its 
spectrum holdings, implying it plans to let the spectrum grow in value 
so it can be sold at a profit.


The latest missive from the NAB is part of the group's ongoing efforts 
to undermine the FCC's plan to use airwaves currently used for 
television broadcast to alleviate the spectrum crunch. Last month, the 
NAB accused the wireless industry and cable operators like Time Warner 
of fabricating the spectrum crunch by hoarding their spectrum to create 
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[WISPA] Solar acting backwards

2011-02-01 Thread Forbes Mercy
A week ago we received a low battery page on a solar site.  We got there 
to find the Positive wire was oxidized and not making connection, 
stripped it back and it worked fine.  Then we had no sun for three days, 
worked perfectly.  When the sun came out it stopped working again, isn't 
that kind of backwards?  On my way out again to change batteries, we use 
a bank of two 6v industrial batteries.

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Re: [WISPA] Solar acting backwards

2011-02-01 Thread Forbes Mercy
Chuck,

It was more simple than I thought, I got up there and the negative wire 
was arcing from not being completely connected, fixed that and 
everything is fine.

Thanks,
Forbes

On 2/1/2011 10:59 AM, Chuck Profito wrote:
 Forbes,
 I know this sounds stupid, but I have always found it to be true, in any
 battery configuration, you are only as strong as your weakest cell.  It
 determines the output/input load. Take a hydrometer, a shorted cell will
 show discharge while charging.
 Chuck

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Forbes Mercy
 Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 10:43 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Solar acting backwards

 A week ago we received a low battery page on a solar site.  We got there
 to find the Positive wire was oxidized and not making connection,
 stripped it back and it worked fine.  Then we had no sun for three days,
 worked perfectly.  When the sun came out it stopped working again, isn't
 that kind of backwards?  On my way out again to change batteries, we use
 a bank of two 6v industrial batteries.

 Forbes


 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Smith: Companies must save private data to combatchild porn

2011-01-26 Thread Forbes Mercy
I want that NCIS computer where every search takes a while but comes 
back with a BEEP BEEP so everyone knows in the room that they had 
results. Oh and the searches they do on cell is instantaneous plus they 
get in to every ISP without even a second thought. TV is just that 
entertainment, it would be cool for congress if life was like TV and 
personal rights of privacy didn't exist, that stupid inconvenient 
constitution keeps getting in the way of everything! My fav is when they 
justify breaking the law to enforce the law, what would be the point of 
the 'rule of law' if everyone adopted the 'ends justify the means' 
philosophy? I'll stop there before I get political, see restraint DOES 
come with age.

Forbes

On 1/26/2011 7:29 AM, Jeromie Reeves wrote:
 I would love to see the proof where someone got away for not having
 the ip/user information (but really, isps should haveat least  that)
 and that every case that had ip/user information did result in a
 conviction of the correct offender. Personally, I think some
 politicians have been watching to much SVU and CSI.

 On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 6:21 AM, St. Louis Broadband
 li...@stlbroadband.com  wrote:
 Yep, I hear you Stuart.

 So how do you battle ... stupid, we know you can't fix stupid …

 Victoria Proffer - President/CEO

 www.ShowMeBroadband.com

 www.StLouisBroadband.com

 www.FarmingtonForum.com

 314-974-5600

 -Original Message-
 From: Stuart Pierce [mailto:spie...@avolve.net]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 7:30 AM
 To: li...@stlbroadband.com; WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Smith: Companies must save private data to combatchild
 porn

 Well it would seem they don't want us around, afterall, the less players
 there are, the more control there is. The world is crazy and this is just
 one more reactionary move by inept people in charge. Closer to the root of
 the problems needs to be addressed, but using the word of the day, they are
 disconnected ( probably have fiber in their palaces ).

 -- Original Message --

 From: St. Louis Broadbandli...@stlbroadband.com

 Reply-To: li...@stlbroadband.com, WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org

 Date:  Tue, 25 Jan 2011 20:22:28 -0600

 Same thing here from CNET:
 http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20029393-281.html#ixzz1C6HMbtXG
 http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20029393-281.html
 Except they are saying it has to be saved for two years!  All browsing data
 and email.
 Nice if you're a big ILEC and have endless funds .
 The more I look at the state of the broadband market today, I wonder if
 WISPs will exist in the next few years.
 Victoria Proffer - President/CEO
 www.ShowMeBroadband.com
 www.StLouisBroadband.com
 www.FarmingtonForum.comhttp://farmingtonforum.com/
 314-974-5600
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves
 Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 8:12 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Smith: Companies must save private data to combat
 child
 porn
 Why do they not just make everyone apply for v6 space. At least that
 way was designed for tacking IP space to people.
 On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Jack Ungerjun...@ask-wi.com  wrote:
 The following information is offered for your personal use only. It
 contains no
 added starch, sugar or editorial content. It was not processed on any
 machinery
 that also processes eggs or nuts.
 
 
 *
 House Judiciary Chairman Lamar Smith says new laws are needed that would
 force
 companies to save private data in order to help law enforcement combat
 child
 pornography.
 Smith said at a hearing on Tuesday that Internet access providers should
 be
 forced to save personal details linked to users' IP addresses as a way to
 help
 combat child pornography. In the last Congress, he introduced a bill
 requiring
 they do so for two years...
 LINK:
 http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/139945-smith-companies-
 must-save-more-data-to-combat-child-porn
 
 
 ***
 --
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 Author (2003) - Deploying License-Free Wireless Wide-Area Networks
 Serving the WISP, Networking and Telecom Communities since 1993
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Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES -

2011-01-26 Thread Forbes Mercy

Hey me too I was 17 in 1975 :)

On 1/26/2011 7:15 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:


Hey we're the same age!  I was 17 in 2005!

On Jan 26, 2011 9:59 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net 
mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:

 18? Damn, he beat me then. I was only 22. :-p

 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 On 1/26/2011 8:24 AM, Rick Harnish wrote:

 Kurt was one of our first members signing up at WISPNOG in Chicago in
 2005. He was 18 at the time I think. He took a few years off and
 came back last summer joining at the Summer Regional Meeting. It is
 good to have you back! You have been an impressive young entrepreneur
 to watch. I think you won a pretty nice door prize at the St. Louis
 Meeting didn't you?

 Rick

 *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]

 *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
 *Sent:* Wednesday, January 26, 2011 9:16 AM
 *To:* 'WISPA General List'
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)

 Rick, I look forward to paying my WISPA dues this summer, it is one
 investment I know that will have a much higher ROI than anything else.

 Kurt Fankhauser

 Wavelinc Communications

 P.O. Box 126

 Bucyrus, OH 44820

 http://www.wavelinc.com

 419-562-6405

 Sent from Microsoft Outlook

 



 *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]

 *On Behalf Of *Rick Harnish
 *Sent:* Wednesday, January 26, 2011 9:09 AM
 *To:* 'WISPA General List'
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)

 Kurt,

 You are exactly right. Working inside the Beltway is very expensive.
 Office Rent, Malpractice insurance, hotels, food and just about
 everything else is twice what it is in the common world. However, to
 be clued in and in touch with the daily events that happen at the FCC
 and Congress, it is almost essential that we maintain a presence there
 through our attorney. Many associations have their corporate offices
 in the DC Metro Area. We are a long ways from doing that and we
 maintain our virtual offices across the country at Board Member
 offices and my little rented office in Indiana. We are appreciative
 of all the supplies, electricity, insurance and other expenses
 incurred by those that serve on the Board, so that we can maintain low
 overhead and dedicate the major portion of our revenue to go to
 lobbying type efforts.

 For those of you that are wondering. Our legal expenses last year
 were almost $100,000.

 I appreciate your kind words and we will continue to work for the
 industry. Hopefully others will join the members in supporting our
 efforts.

 Respectfully,

 *Rick Harnish*

 Executive Director

 WISPA

 260-307-4000 cell

 866-317-2851 WISPA Office

 Skype: rick.harnish.

 rharn...@wispa.org mailto:rharn...@wispa.org

 *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]

 *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
 *Sent:* Wednesday, January 26, 2011 8:11 AM
 *To:* 'WISPA General List'
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)

 Rick,

 I just seen the total expenses sheet, and all I have to say is WOW. I
 had no idea that there was as much legal fees associated with running
 WISPA. Lets face it, these annual member fees are CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP
 compared to the overall cost of running WISPA. And right now pretty
 much everyone that is a WISP (paying member of WISPA or not) is
 getting benefit from this organization from the lobbying efforts and
 FCC agenda. I encourage anyone that is not a current member to sign
 up. I know that there are a TON of wisps out there that are not
 members. I would estimate that possibly only 25-50% of all total WISPS
 are members.

 The WISPS that are not current members should be ashamed of themselves
 because of all that they are benefitting from at the expense of the
 rest of us

 Kurt Fankhauser

 Wavelinc Communications

 P.O. Box 126

 Bucyrus, OH 44820

 http://www.wavelinc.com

 419-562-6405

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 Kurt,

 We will take this to the members list. I have a couple hours of work
 to get the PL ready.

 Rick

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Re: [WISPA] [Ubnt_users] NS5 issues?

2011-01-18 Thread Forbes Mercy
If you haven't seen Ubiquiti has released the non-beta 5.3 firmware 7782 
for it's M series equipment.

http://www.ubnt.com/support/downloads

Forbes



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Re: [WISPA] Figuring it out

2010-12-31 Thread Forbes Mercy
Yes I'm on AirMax and using 5.2.1 in all my Rockets.

On 12/31/2010 5:49 AM, Stuart Pierce wrote:
 Are you utilizing AirMax ? If you are not using firmware 5.2.1, upgrade to 
 that and the beta5 seems to be working as well.

 -- Original Message --
 From: Forbes Mercyforbes.me...@wabroadband.com
 Reply-To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
 Date:  Thu, 30 Dec 2010 17:54:00 -0800

 Our network has a Ubiquiti 3.65 backhaul through an Adtran smart switch
 then to four rocket M5's plus some 2.4GHz radios plus a backhaul to
 another town.

 Earlier this week we started getting calls from the Rocket customers who
 said their speeds were slow, primarily two of them pointing nearly the
 same direction, both have about 20 on them.  We worked on the settings
 for the backhaul... fixed.  Then today it started again.  Speedtest on
 three MB customers are 365K down and 1.5MB up.  The backhaul is pulling
 40MB and the pings to those complaining are perfect.  Another 5MB
 customer, 600K down and 800K up.

 We don't know where to look, the switch is fairly new could that be it
 or could it be the radios pointing roughly the same direction are
 interfering but not affecting pings which is the normal symptom for
 that? vertical separation is 30 feet between the two rockets, one a 120
 the other a 90.  Any ideas?

 Thanks,
 Forbes Mercy
 Washington Broadband, Inc.


 
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[WISPA] Figuring it out

2010-12-30 Thread Forbes Mercy
Our network has a Ubiquiti 3.65 backhaul through an Adtran smart switch 
then to four rocket M5's plus some 2.4GHz radios plus a backhaul to 
another town.

Earlier this week we started getting calls from the Rocket customers who 
said their speeds were slow, primarily two of them pointing nearly the 
same direction, both have about 20 on them.  We worked on the settings 
for the backhaul... fixed.  Then today it started again.  Speedtest on 
three MB customers are 365K down and 1.5MB up.  The backhaul is pulling 
40MB and the pings to those complaining are perfect.  Another 5MB 
customer, 600K down and 800K up.

We don't know where to look, the switch is fairly new could that be it 
or could it be the radios pointing roughly the same direction are 
interfering but not affecting pings which is the normal symptom for 
that? vertical separation is 30 feet between the two rockets, one a 120 
the other a 90.  Any ideas?

Thanks,
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Re: [WISPA] Wow- and how stimulus works

2010-12-24 Thread Forbes Mercy
I thought the hooker was the stimulus package, she costs you way more 
than it should, it's not ongoing pleasure, and you end up dumping even 
more into it before you walk away saying I could have used the money 
for something much greater in the scheme of things.  Merry Christmas 
everyone, the things we talk about on Christmas eve. :)

Forbes Mercy
President - Washington Broadband, Inc.

On 12/24/2010 9:42 AM, Chuck Profito wrote:
 MDK- just for you.  :-}

 -Or

 It is a slow day in the small Minnesota town of Marshall, and the streets
 are deserted.  Times are tough, everybody is in debt, and everybody is
 living on credit.

 A rich tourist visiting the area drives through town, stops at the motel,
 lays a $100 bill on the desk and says he wants to inspect the rooms upstairs
 before selecting one for the night.

 1. As soon as he walks upstairs, the motel owner grabs the bill and runs
 next door to pay his debt to the butcher.

 2. The butcher takes the $100 and runs down the street to retire his debt to
 the pig farmer.

 3. The pig farmer takes the $100 and heads off to pay his bill to his
 supplier, the Farmer's Co-op.

 4. The guy at the Farmer's Co-op takes the $100 and runs to pay his debt to
 the local prostitute, who has also been facing hard times and has had to
 offer her services on credit.

 5. The hooker rushes to the hotel and pays off her room bill with the hotel
 owner.

 6. The hotel proprietor then places the $100 back on the counter so the rich
 traveler will not suspect anything.

 At that moment the traveler comes down the stairs, states that the rooms are
 not satisfactory, picks up the $100 bill and leaves town.

 No one produced anything. No one earned anything. However, the whole town is
 now out of debt and looks to the future with a lot more optimism.

 And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how Stimulus works.



 
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Re: [WISPA] Copyright Infringement --- TOO FUNNY!!!

2010-12-16 Thread Forbes Mercy
Great Steve, Now I have the scent of Pig Barn scrapings in my sensory as 
I try to decide what to have for lunch, thanks buddy! LOL

Forbes

On 12/16/2010 11:17 AM, Steve Barnes wrote:
 That sounds an awful lot like a conversation I would have had with my dad 
 years ago and a letter he would have stood over me to make sure was said with 
 proper apologetic  attitude.  Soon after I would be out in the pig barn 
 scraping the walls with a putty knife since it appeared I had way too much 
 time on my hand and needed time to think how to be more productive with my 
 life.  (Whao flash back )

 Steve Barnes
 General Manager
 PCS-WIN
 RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Mark Nash
 Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 1:59 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Copyright Infringement --- TOO FUNNY!!!

 When we forward copyright notices from the entertainment industry lawyers to 
 our customers who download illegally-obtained movies, we get a variety of 
 responses from our customers, ranging from none at all, shocked, angry, 
 understanding, etc.

 This takes the cake...DEFINITELY my favorite...gettin a little wrist-slap 
 from dad...

 (names have been changed to protect the guilty)...

 ***
 Hello this is Taylor Wisdom, Bill Wisdom's son. My father just informed me of 
 an email he received from UnwiredWest via Mark Nash regarding the downloading 
 of a film which violated copy infringement laws. The was labeled Takers. I 
 did download the film Takers from a bit torrent website and have since then 
 deleted the film and any programs affiliated with them. This sort of 
 copyright infringement will not happen again. I do apologize for the 
 inconvenience.

 Sincerely,
 Taylor Wisdom
 ***

 Muhahahahaha...



 
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Re: [WISPA] Copyright Infringement --- TOO FUNNY!!!

2010-12-16 Thread Forbes Mercy
I have my first 28.8 modem from the beginning of dial-up.

On 12/16/2010 4:23 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote:
 I keep one of my USR 56k modems on the wall =)

 On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Rick Harnishrharn...@wispa.org  wrote:
 Our first employee was a 14 year old kid that hacked into our server shortly
 after we started a dialup business in 1995.  His payment for the next couple
 years was hardware.  Dang, he must be nearly 30 now.  I can promise you he
 was successful!

 I went into the office one day and my partner said We've been hacked.  I
 looked at him dumbfounded, not knowing with hacked meant.  He said I'm
 going to catch him next time.  The next day he said I caught him, you will
 never believe who it is, He is 14 years old and he starts work tomorrow.

 Ah the good ole days!  56K Frame Relay backbone and (16) 19,200 baud US
 Robotics modems. :)

 Rick


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Scott Lambert
 Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 5:45 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Copyright Infringement --- TOO FUNNY!!!

 On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 10:59:23AM -0800, Mark Nash wrote:
 When we forward copyright notices from the entertainment industry
 lawyers to our customers who download illegally-obtained movies, we
 get
 a variety of responses from our customers, ranging from none at all,
 shocked, angry, understanding, etc.

 This takes the cake...DEFINITELY my favorite...gettin a little
 wrist-slap from dad...

 (names have been changed to protect the guilty)...

 ***
 Hello this is Taylor Wisdom, Bill Wisdom's son. My father just
 informed
 me of an email he received from UnwiredWest via Mark Nash regarding
 the
 downloading of a film which violated copy infringement laws. The was
 labeled Takers. I did download the film Takers from a bit torrent
 website and have since then deleted the film and any programs
 affiliated
 with them. This sort of copyright infringement will not happen again.
 I
 do apologize for the inconvenience.

 Sincerely,
 Taylor Wisdom
 ***
 Sounds like most of the conversations we used to have with the 13
 year old script-kiddy-wannabes in the late 90's.  The parents had
 no clue what the kids were up to, but got very serious with the
 kids when we called them at 2am to report their mis-behaviour.

 One kid's father scared hime enough that when one of his IRC friends
 from another state said he was going to use a password he found for
 one of our customer's on our shell server, the kid told Dad and Dad
 dialed the phone and handed it back to the kid.  He ended up talking
 to me.  I watched the other kid log in and run a few commands.  The
 shells were all patched to log every command run to a central log
 file we could tail -f.  He gave me the location and name of the
 other kid. We called that kids's phone number:

 Us: Get off my server.

 Kid: I don't know what you're talking about dude.

 Us: You are logged in as user blah from IP address blither.  The
   last command you ran was blah blah blah.

 Kid: I'm off.

 The change from cocky to oh sh** was fun for us.

 Us: Go get your Dad.

 I think that one ended up in Juvie.  It wasn't his first offence
 and his dad had promised to send him up the river the next time he
 did any hacking.  We were the next time he got caught.  Dad said
 he had been caught messing with NASA before.

 --
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 SysAdmin
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Re: [WISPA] Copyright Infringement --- TOO FUNNY!!!

2010-12-16 Thread Forbes Mercy
Oh sure you want to start that, huh?  The 28.8 was for my dial-up ISP, I 
had a Datec 1200 baud modem for my BBS and my Kaypro 10 laptop used a 
whopping 300 baud.  I used to test my lines by warble whistling into the 
phone.  As for computers starters the TI-99 and commodore 64, I wish I 
was a youngster but this is my 17th year in this business and before 
that about three more years using only alta-vista and SIP BBS 
connections to this new Internet thingie.  I had $50K to start my ISP at 
the same time my stock broker was encouraging me to buy this IPO called 
Netscape, sigh.

On 12/16/2010 6:33 PM, Scott Reed wrote:
 Youngster.  I don't know that I have it, but my first high-speed modem
 was 9600.  What a boost from 1200 which I used to do my first online class.

 On 12/16/2010 9:24 PM, Forbes Mercy wrote:
 I have my first 28.8 modem from the beginning of dial-up.

 On 12/16/2010 4:23 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote:
 I keep one of my USR 56k modems on the wall =)

 On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Rick Harnishrharn...@wispa.orgwrote:
 Our first employee was a 14 year old kid that hacked into our server 
 shortly
 after we started a dialup business in 1995.  His payment for the next 
 couple
 years was hardware.  Dang, he must be nearly 30 now.  I can promise you he
 was successful!

 I went into the office one day and my partner said We've been hacked.  I
 looked at him dumbfounded, not knowing with hacked meant.  He said I'm
 going to catch him next time.  The next day he said I caught him, you will
 never believe who it is, He is 14 years old and he starts work tomorrow.

 Ah the good ole days!  56K Frame Relay backbone and (16) 19,200 baud US
 Robotics modems. :)

 Rick


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Scott Lambert
 Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 5:45 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Copyright Infringement --- TOO FUNNY!!!

 On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 10:59:23AM -0800, Mark Nash wrote:
 When we forward copyright notices from the entertainment industry
 lawyers to our customers who download illegally-obtained movies, we
 get
 a variety of responses from our customers, ranging from none at all,
 shocked, angry, understanding, etc.

 This takes the cake...DEFINITELY my favorite...gettin a little
 wrist-slap from dad...

 (names have been changed to protect the guilty)...

 ***
 Hello this is Taylor Wisdom, Bill Wisdom's son. My father just
 informed
 me of an email he received from UnwiredWest via Mark Nash regarding
 the
 downloading of a film which violated copy infringement laws. The was
 labeled Takers. I did download the film Takers from a bit torrent
 website and have since then deleted the film and any programs
 affiliated
 with them. This sort of copyright infringement will not happen again.
 I
 do apologize for the inconvenience.

 Sincerely,
 Taylor Wisdom
 ***
 Sounds like most of the conversations we used to have with the 13
 year old script-kiddy-wannabes in the late 90's.  The parents had
 no clue what the kids were up to, but got very serious with the
 kids when we called them at 2am to report their mis-behaviour.

 One kid's father scared hime enough that when one of his IRC friends
 from another state said he was going to use a password he found for
 one of our customer's on our shell server, the kid told Dad and Dad
 dialed the phone and handed it back to the kid.  He ended up talking
 to me.  I watched the other kid log in and run a few commands.  The
 shells were all patched to log every command run to a central log
 file we could tail -f.  He gave me the location and name of the
 other kid. We called that kids's phone number:

 Us: Get off my server.

 Kid: I don't know what you're talking about dude.

 Us: You are logged in as user blah from IP address blither.  The
 last command you ran was blah blah blah.

 Kid: I'm off.

 The change from cocky to oh sh** was fun for us.

 Us: Go get your Dad.

 I think that one ended up in Juvie.  It wasn't his first offence
 and his dad had promised to send him up the river the next time he
 did any hacking.  We were the next time he got caught.  Dad said
 he had been caught messing with NASA before.

 --
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 SysAdmin
 lamb...@lambertfam.org



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[WISPA] The guy's name from airSync

2010-12-13 Thread Forbes Mercy
Spent time searching for the guy's name who put the airSync information 
together,  'sing' something?  A little help here?

Thanks,
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Re: [WISPA] Question about beacon lights rules on a tower

2010-12-03 Thread Forbes Mercy
I have a 100 foot guyed tower on top of a hill, it was previously an FM 
Radio station, they moved their site,  sold us the site, but continue to 
use this site for STL's.  Since then I've added the Fire Department and 
a low power radio station plus my own equipment.  The tower was never 
lighted but was red and white paint.  When the FM moved off it they 
painted it white.  Can you tell me the purpose of why they painted it 
and how, especially being 10 miles from an approach why we don't have 
to light it?


Thanks,
Forbes

On 12/3/2010 4:42 PM, Christopher Hair wrote:


Thanks for all the input.   I found this document on the FAA website 
about Obstruction Marking and Lighting if anyone is interested for 
future reference . Its dated 2007.


*53. POLES, TOWERS, AND SIMILAR SKELETAL*

*STRUCTURES*

The following standards apply to radio and television

towers, supporting structures for overhead

transmission lines, and similar structures.

*a*/. *Top Mounted Obstruction Light.*/

*1/. Structures 150 Feet (46m) AGL or Less/*/. /Two

or more steady burning (L-810) lights should be

installed in a manner to ensure an unobstructed view of

one or more lights by a pilot.

*2*/. *Structures Exceeding 150 Feet (46m) AGL*./

At least one red flashing (L-864) beacon should be

installed in a manner to ensure an unobstructed view of

one or more lights by a pilot.

*3*/. *Appurtenances 40 Feet (12m) or Less*. /If a

rod, antenna, or other appurtenance 40 feet (12m) or

less in height is incapable of supporting a red flashing

beacon, then it may be placed at the base of the

appurtenance. If the mounting location does not allow

unobstructed viewing of the beacon by a pilot, then

additional beacons should be added.

*4*/. *Appurtenances Exceeding 40 Feet (12m*). /If a

rod, antenna, or other appurtenance exceeding 40 feet

(12m) in height is incapable of supporting a red

flashing beacon, a supporting mast with one or more

beacons should be installed adjacent to the

appurtenance. Adjacent installations should not

exceed the height of the appurtenance and be within 40

feet (12m) of the tip to allow the pilot an unobstructed

view of at least one beacon.

*From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
*On Behalf Of *Brian Webster

*Sent:* Friday, December 03, 2010 12:43 PM
*To:* 'WISPA General List'
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Question about beacon lights rules on a tower

Helicopters fly at night and in the worst visibility conditions. They 
fly slow and hover. If there is a particular vector or direction that 
an antenna blocks the visibility of the beacon light it can cause 
these types of accidents. A helicopter would linger in a blind spot of 
the obstructed tower light much longer than a plane would and 
depending on their direction of flight could be in the blind spot for 
their whole flight.


I too was a lighting compliance expert for a tower company. I filed 
hundreds of these applications and had the software to do advanced 
studies near airports that had precision instrument approaches.  Many 
people do not realize that when they construct a 190 or so  tower that 
the crane will be taller than 200ft during construction. You are 
required to file for a clearance for that crane to exceed the 200ft 
height even if it is temporary. While they can't do anything to you if 
you don't file, your insurance carrier will not touch any payout on a 
claim if it is discovered you did not do the proper paperwork. For 
liability reasons people want to see that letter from the FAA saying 
that it is not a hazard to navigation.


Another big topic that most people do not realize is that you are also 
required to run your towers through your state DOT office (They all 
have an airspace group). They also have the authority to require you 
to light a tower. Normally the FAA will notify the proper state when 
you file for a site, but that does not absolve you of your requirement 
to make sure it has been done. I had a tower in the state of 
Washington where the FAA said no problem but the state DOT required us 
to light it. It was in a mountain pass along I-90. Their reasoning was 
that planes will fly below the cloud cover and follow the valley often 
with low clearances. They felt the tower should be lit for those 
circumstances. We had no choice but to light it.


It does not cost much time or money to have a tower studied and then 
file with the FAA. To eliminate the risk of making a mistake and not 
meeting the proper criteria I think it's foolish not to go through the 
process for every new structure you build just to cover your butt. 
Relying solely on the TOWAIR tool on the FCC web site and/or the tool 
on the FAA web site makes me nervous, many times I found them to be 
wrong in situations where you are close to a public airfield or in the 
path of an instrument procedure. Instrument approaches can have an 
effect up to 10 nautical miles from the end of a runway. 
www.airspaceusa.com 

[WISPA] Weird Sunday Issue

2010-11-21 Thread Forbes Mercy
My bandwidth manager an x86 RouterOS Mikrotik has been running 
flawlessly for a month now.  Today I've gotten What's up pages for three 
outages of this device lasting no more than 2-5 minutes.  Normally when 
it goes down so does all my customers but none went down and the device 
came back up on it's own.  I was able to access the log and got this, 
anyone have an idea why it's suddenly doing this?

store debug - adding system drive: primary-master (/dev/hda)
store debug - web-proxy1: disk setup finished successfully

Thanks for your ideas,
Forbes



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Re: [WISPA] Weird Sunday Issue

2010-11-21 Thread Forbes Mercy
What's up paged me with all services down but no other devices went 
down, it didn't reboot or there would have been a log entry and I 
couldn't log into it during this period.

On 11/21/2010 6:23 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 What went down, the RouterOS box?  Did it reboot?  Did it fail to pass
 traffic for a couple of minutes?

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
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 Suite 1337
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 On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Jeromie Reevesjree...@18-30chat.net  wrote:
 Your hard drive, or possibly the controller, reset. This can be for
 many many reasons.

 On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Forbes Mercy
 forbes.me...@wabroadband.com  wrote:
 My bandwidth manager an x86 RouterOS Mikrotik has been running
 flawlessly for a month now.  Today I've gotten What's up pages for three
 outages of this device lasting no more than 2-5 minutes.  Normally when
 it goes down so does all my customers but none went down and the device
 came back up on it's own.  I was able to access the log and got this,
 anyone have an idea why it's suddenly doing this?

 store debug - adding system drive: primary-master (/dev/hda)
 store debug - web-proxy1: disk setup finished successfully

 Thanks for your ideas,
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Re: [WISPA] Weird Sunday Issue

2010-11-21 Thread Forbes Mercy
Same switch, next to each other.

n 11/21/2010 7:32 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 Network issue between Whats up and your RouterOS box, not really
 relevant to the bandwidth manager then.

 What's the network look like between the two?

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
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 Suite 1337
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 On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 10:28 PM, Forbes Mercy
 forbes.me...@wabroadband.com  wrote:
 What's up paged me with all services down but no other devices went
 down, it didn't reboot or there would have been a log entry and I
 couldn't log into it during this period.

 On 11/21/2010 6:23 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 What went down, the RouterOS box?  Did it reboot?  Did it fail to pass
 traffic for a couple of minutes?

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
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 On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Jeromie Reevesjree...@18-30chat.net
 wrote:
 Your hard drive, or possibly the controller, reset. This can be for
 many many reasons.

 On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Forbes Mercy
 forbes.me...@wabroadband.comwrote:
 My bandwidth manager an x86 RouterOS Mikrotik has been running
 flawlessly for a month now.  Today I've gotten What's up pages for three
 outages of this device lasting no more than 2-5 minutes.  Normally when
 it goes down so does all my customers but none went down and the device
 came back up on it's own.  I was able to access the log and got this,
 anyone have an idea why it's suddenly doing this?

 store debug - adding system drive: primary-master (/dev/hda)
 store debug - web-proxy1: disk setup finished successfully

 Thanks for your ideas,
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Re: [WISPA] best cam bang for buck?

2010-11-17 Thread Forbes Mercy
SO assuming there is not a Ubiquiti camera in design lets imagine the 
features:  pan/zoom/tilt 1 lux in an outdoor case with a back cover that 
pivots and serves as its own backhaul with a Rocket inside.  Of course 
web based, IP assignable and all for $89 with a USB chain in case you 
want to piggyback a small LAN of cameras, wouldn't that be cool?


Forbes


On 11/17/2010 7:51 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote:

Wait for the Ubiquiti Camera... lol.
Regards,

Chuck


On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 1:53 AM, Jim Patient sa...@jeffcosoho.com 
mailto:sa...@jeffcosoho.com wrote:


  I want a couple of cams to put on my towers to watch critters (deer,
coons, possums, ect) at night.  I have fiber to the towers so no
issues
with pipe (I'll give open access to cams).  I want to PTZ with high
resolution, and just like any other WISP, I need it for about $29.95.
Just kidding but what is the best bang for my buck (pun intended)?

--
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Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel

2010-11-11 Thread Forbes Mercy
My first LAPtop was a Kaypro 10, thank goodness I didn't have to pay 
baggage on it since it was as large as my travel bag... monochrome green 
screen with a huge 10MB hard drive and ran hot enough to fry an egg.


On 11/11/2010 8:09 AM, Mark Nash wrote:
Haha... You young people don't remember the term WYSIWYG (what you see 
is what you get)... A term for applications that made it so that 
documents actually LOOKED on your screen like they were going to print 
(anyone remember Kaypro  WordStar?).
I had a revolutionary idea technological in the early 90's... I called 
it WYGIWYM... What you get is what you MEAN.  I'da been a 
qua-jillionaire but I didn't execute.  Oh well.


- Original Message -
*From:* Scott Carullo mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com
*To:* WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 10, 2010 5:35 PM
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel

I'd pay a little more when they come out with the auto-install
feature...

Maybe one day - Auto-Everything.   Just take it out of the box and
plug it in.  It figures out what to do where...

They can call it AIRverywhere

Scott Carullo
Technical Operations
855-FLSPEED x102




*From*: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
mailto:robert.w...@just-micro.com
*Sent*: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:31 PM
*To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
*Subject*: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel

FYI

I'm hesitant to jump into UBNT Beta firmware for large scale
deployment, lesson learned the hard way.  But the latest
includes channel hopping and Auto channel.  I've had ongoing
issues with random interference and every couple of weeks or so
have had to change my frequencies on pretty much all my UBNT
radios.  But I took the plunge with this new beta and it's been
SOLID for me for a week now.  I tried the channel hopping but it
was too busy for me.  My noise floor was all over the place. 
SUCKED and way too random for me BUT just doing a simple AUTO

channel.  Smooth as silk!  My interference is now
GONE.  My throughput has increased and my noise floor went from an
average -85 to a -95 to -100 average.  Running 5GHz on all
links  I call this one a WIN!

As I said, FYI.  Nothing but good on this UBNT Beta.  It's about
time! J

Just sharing.

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Re: [WISPA] Verizon LTE

2010-11-06 Thread Forbes Mercy

In Washington State they already do that with United States Cellular.

On 11/6/2010 10:13 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
It appears they're looking for rural cellular companies (outside of 
the Verizon 3G coverage area) to lease the spectrum from Verizon.  
Then that company is to build the entire network with their own funds 
and then institute roaming to\from Verizon's LTE.

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


On 10/21/2010 7:22 AM, Steve Barnes wrote:


Just got this from Verizon as a link on a advertisement:

Verizon's 4G network will be available in 38 markets and major 
airports, covering approximately 100+ million people by the end of 
the year. We plan to double that in 2012 and cover our entire 
existing 3G footprint with 4G LTE by the end of 2013.


Verizon Wireless is aggressively building the nation’s first 4G LTE 
network across the same footprint that is currently covered by its 
nationwide 3G network, which covers more than 90% of the U.S. 
population. *In order to provide access to this 4G LTE network to 
more of the U.S. population living in rural areas, Verizon Wireless 
plans to work with rural companies to collaboratively build and 
operate a 4G network in those areas using the tower and backhaul 
assets of the rural company and Verizon Wireless’ core LTE equipment 
and 700MHz spectrum.***


Verizon Wireless provides a unique opportunity for selected 
participants to leverage the company’s technical and spectrum 
resources. We are seeking companies that can assist in bringing the 
benefits of 4G LTE service to rural areas that currently lack Verizon 
Wireless coverage. Verizon Wireless may work with rural companies 
that have towers and backhaul capabilities, even if those companies 
are not currently wireless operators. Together, we will plan and 
coordinate a local LTE deployment schedule that makes sense for both 
Verizon Wireless and the rural company that we are collaborating with.


http://aboutus.vzw.com/rural/Overview.html

Steve Barnes

General Manager

PCS-WIN

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Re: [WISPA] [Board] Broadband Expo

2010-11-02 Thread Forbes Mercy




Victoria,

I'm finally getting a minute to respond, WISPA has been very busy at
this show and I'm manning the booth right now. Its been pretty
constant and I brought my laptop, already signed up a new vendor member
and a principal member. This is a different show than the Regional
meeting with other WISP groups here and vendors that we normally would
not see at a WISP show such as fiber, WiMax and a huge display with
DISH featuring 3D. I'm glad they aren't running 3D videos of Marlon
climbing a tower :) They are likely losing money because they did
everything first class from registration to the meals. Great speakers:
Charlie the CEO of DISH was engaging, Johnathan Adelesten (sp?) of RUS
took all the heated questions with grace.

>From my standpoint DISH donated their legal counsel to help me put
together a summit that I will announce soon after we work it out in
committee. I guess the point I'm making is while it is 85% WISP's here
we're meeting lots of very influential people that open up a lot of new
opportunities for our members. The other groups and vendors are well
aware of WISPA's primary role here and Oxford has put Rick in front of
everyone as much as possible, I feel badly more didn't come because I'm
getting almost as much from this as I did the Regional Show in a
different way, we all know the members or have seen them on the list,
this is like new territory.. had to take a time out from writing
this signed up two more members, sweet! OH, Matt just showed up to
relieve me.. off to the mapping seminar... this is a great show!

Forbes Mercy
Washington Broadband, Inc.

There's your update, we're having fun its  


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  The Expo
must be wonderful since
we havent had an update ;-)
  
  Packed?
Informative? Lots of
networking?
  
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[WISPA] gee too bad about Weather

2010-10-28 Thread Forbes Mercy
With all the crazy weather across the country, including our rainy high 
of 49 today I just checked the weather for the Broadband Expo next 
week.  70's!  Lets drag that Summer along for three more days before 
returning to my city already surrounded by snow in the foothills (3 feet 
this week alone).  For those of you coming, see you there!

Forbes



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Re: [WISPA] Webcam

2010-10-26 Thread Forbes Mercy
I'm interested in putting one to two cameras at each tower then having 
them stream into a single DVR at our head-end.  How do we accomplish that?

On 10/26/2010 8:01 AM, Jason Hensley wrote:
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[WISPA] Can't get my 100MB

2010-10-25 Thread Forbes Mercy
I just took delivery on a 100MB Fiber connection from Charter, we're 
perplexed at the variable speed tests we are getting.  Charter's varies 
from 25 to 50MB down, speedtest.net goes to about 20-25MB down and 30 
up, speakeasy doesn't go above 20MB.  Charter says the cap is off on our 
100MB so it should be showing that.

The anatomy of our network is fiber to our head-end, goes to a Charter 
switch then to our Cisco 2811, then to a gig netgear switch.  We're 
doing our speed tests on a standard browser (Firefox) in a Windows 2003 
box that has a 10/100 ethernet (about 8 feet) to the gig switch.  I'm 
debating if the 2811 is hefty enough to handle the 100MB, any ideas?

Thanks,
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[WISPA] WISP surplussing Moto units

2010-10-25 Thread Forbes Mercy
I'm going to list some Motorola radios for sale on eBay but I'll give 
first shot to my fellow WISP's, they are all used early edition and 
recently taken out of service:

4 5700 SM
4 5700 BH-10
2 5700 BH-20
1 5700 AP
1 5400 AP
1 5200 AP
1 5200 SM

14 reflectors

Let me know if you want any before I put them on eBay.

Thanks,
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Re: [WISPA] WISP surplussing Moto units

2010-10-25 Thread Forbes Mercy
Motorola brand reflectors.  As for pricing I haven't really looked at 
their value yet, I'll look at a few sources tomorrow so I can get an idea.


Forbes

On 10/25/2010 6:39 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:


What kind of reflectors?

On Oct 25, 2010 9:38 PM, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com 
mailto:forbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote:

 I'm going to list some Motorola radios for sale on eBay but I'll give
 first shot to my fellow WISP's, they are all used early edition and
 recently taken out of service:

 4 5700 SM
 4 5700 BH-10
 2 5700 BH-20
 1 5700 AP
 1 5400 AP
 1 5200 AP
 1 5200 SM

 14 reflectors

 Let me know if you want any before I put them on eBay.

 Thanks,
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[WISPA] Certainly no idle hands over at the FCC

2010-10-22 Thread Forbes Mercy
http://www.wirelessweek.com/News/2010/10/Policy-and-Industry-FCC-Propose-Incentive-Auctions-Legal/



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Re: [WISPA] Got a Dallas room reservation you don't need?

2010-10-22 Thread Forbes Mercy
Same boat you're in.

Forbes

On 10/22/2010 1:33 PM, Jack Unger wrote:
Has anybody reserved a room at the Broadband Expo hotel (Gaylord Texan) for
 November 2 that they don't need?

 When I reserved a few weeks ago, they had no rooms available for that night 
 and
 they wait-listed me. They say there still are no rooms available for the 
 2nd.

 If you have a room reservation for that night that you aren't going to need,
 maybe we could get them to change it over to my name.

 Just asking

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Re: [WISPA] Got a Dallas room reservation you don't need?

2010-10-22 Thread Forbes Mercy


  
  

Here ya go Jack,
  


   
 SpringHill Suites
Dallas DFW Airport North/Grapevine- more info 

   
   
  
 
   

2240
W. Grapevine Mills Circle, Grapevine, TX  (972) 724-5500  ()   1.1 mi NE
  
  $159 for the night.
  
On 10/22/2010 2:36 PM, Jack Unger wrote:

That's handy. Do you know if they've got rooms and at what rate?

On 10/22/2010 2:19 PM, Leroy wrote:

  
The springhill suites is offering free shuttle service every 30 mins to the
conference center.

Leroy


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Forbes Mercy
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 5:07 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Got a Dallas room reservation you don't need?

Same boat you're in.

Forbes

On 10/22/2010 1:33 PM, Jack Unger wrote:


  Has anybody reserved a room at the Broadband Expo hotel (Gaylord Texan)


for


  November 2 that they don't need?

When I reserved a few weeks ago, they had no rooms available for that


night and


  they "wait-listed" me. They say there still are no rooms available for the


2nd.


  If you have a room reservation for that night that you aren't going to


need,


  maybe we could get them to change it over to my name.

Just asking

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Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors)

2010-10-21 Thread Forbes Mercy
I order once to twice a week from Pasadena Networks and I've never had 
one problem with them.  Frank is easy to reach when I need an answer and 
their online inventory works unlike numerous other ordering places who 
tout what they don't have.  His auto notification of when stock comes in 
works flawlessly and he's competitive on pricing.  I'm not interested in 
starting a 'my place is better' war here so I'll just say I like these 
guys a  lot so that's my recommendation.

Forbes

On 10/21/2010 6:52 AM, Jason Hensley wrote:
 Wow, I've ordered several things from there in the past 6 months and I have
 never experienced anything even remotely close to this issue.



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 Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
 Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:43 AM
 To: fai...@snappydsl.net; 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors)

 I would NOT recommend anyone ever buy from WLANparts.com.

 I used to purchase things there every six months. My last order I placed an
 order for a RB600 and an HPOL 5.8ghz omni. Total order was for like $350 or
 so. Got an email from them saying the omni was on backorder. Got the RB600
 and waited for a month, didn't hear anything on the omni so I tried sending
 an email. They don't have any email address listed on their site, was just
 an online form. Tried that twice and never got a response, so I tried
 calling the phone number, never got through to anyone, left a couple
 messages and never got a return call.

 If I placed the order with a credit card I would have done a merchant charge
 back but my order was on my bank debit card so I couldn't. I've never placed
 an order with them again... that was over 6 months ago.

 Kurt Fankhauser
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 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
 Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:50 PM
 To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] POE Injectors / Passive / Shielded ports

 Suggested alternates :-


 http://www.wlanparts.com/product/POE-INJ-S/Shielded-POE-Inserter-power-to-a-
 CAT5.html


 http://store.netgate.com/-P264.aspx
 http://www.mini-box.com/s.nl/it.A/id.309/.f

 http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=24449

 Regards


 Faisal Imtiaz
 Snappy Internet  Telecom


 On 10/20/2010 11:29 PM, Scott Carullo wrote:
 POE Injectors

 I'm looking for some poe injectors, 2.1mm power feed, a power light
 would be preferred but not absolutely necessary, surge protection a bonus

 I do require shielded ethernet ports that are both connected (the
 shields) to each other or to power ground as well.

 I have used the little white triangle looking ones with the green lights
 but everybody shows them out of stock.

 Anyone have any idea who has them or a product you recommend. They are
 going into a box I am making to feed a bunch or radios 24v

 Thanks

 Scott Carullo
 Technical Operations
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Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment

2010-10-19 Thread Forbes Mercy
 1) Put the side up that's in town first and guestimate to the best of 
your ability (if new frequency), align to another radio on tower if 
already have similar freq.

2) Install remote and align to first radio
3) Back in town do final alignment of first radio.

Famous phone conversation with office:  Left left left, ok back right 
--- there lock it down, now vertical up, up, up, ok down, down, up, 
perfect lock it in. Then don't bump it while tightening or you'll get 
back to the office and check it again and go DOH!


Forbes


On 10/19/2010 8:16 AM, Mark Nash wrote:
Question:  What tools do you use to blindly put up the first end of a 
ptp without having a visual on the other side?

Details:
When deploying ptp dishes... One team doing both ends at different times.
The first dish must be aligned without a connecting radio at the other 
end.

We know how to get uptilt/downtilt/azimuth from Radio Mobile.
Uptilt/downtilt is easy to do with a simple gauge.  Azimuth is a 
different story.  If you can see the site that you're aiming for, no 
big deal, but what if you can't?
We have a number of backhaul upgrades to do in the next few months, 
and we have alot of fog here in the mornings this time of year.






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Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment

2010-10-19 Thread Forbes Mercy
 On a couple of towers we put strobes on them and put them on the 
remote reboot unit.  Fire em up from our smart phones when we can't find 
the tower for installs and such.


On 10/19/2010 11:54 AM, Robert West wrote:


What about the lawn chair and b-b gun?  Safety equipment is always 
important.


*From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
*On Behalf Of *~NGL~

*Sent:* Tuesday, October 19, 2010 12:13 PM
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*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment

I run up a 3 foot helium balloon and use a pair of binoculars.

Works every time.

NGL

*From:* Data Technology mailto:w...@dtisp.com

*Sent:* Tuesday, October 19, 2010 9:06 AM

*To:* WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org

*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment

I just did a ptp install of 5g 2ft rocket dishs at 6.47 miles and
could not see either tower.

Now I already had a ptp link to another tower from tower 1 so this
helped.
I used Google Earth to map out the points and then used the ruler
to connect each ptp link.
I took the map with me on tower 1 and mounted and aligned the
dish.  I just eyeballed the direction of the dish in relation to
the existing dish using the Google map.  I got everything powered
up and then went to tower 2.

At tower 2 I had a landmark that I thought was close to the right
direction. Mounted dish and pointed at landmark and had a signal. 
I then aligned dish while guy on ground gave signal reports.


I have not gone back up on tower 1 yet to tweak dish.  I actually
have a 67 signal when lingowave said it should be 57 so I do need
to align dish on tower 1.

I did not want to believe Google maps at first but when I actually
got up on tower I could tell it was about right.

I have tried using a compass but on a tower the compass will not
work correctly.  Guess the metal structure throws the magnetic
field off.


On 10/19/2010 10:16 AM, Mark Nash wrote:

Question:  What tools do you use to blindly put up the first end
of a ptp without having a visual on the other side?

Details:

When deploying ptp dishes... One team doing both ends at different
times.

The first dish must be aligned without a connecting radio at the
other end.

We know how to get uptilt/downtilt/azimuth from Radio Mobile.

Uptilt/downtilt is easy to do with a simple gauge.  Azimuth is a
different story.  If you can see the site that you're aiming for,
no big deal, but what if you can't?

We have a number of backhaul upgrades to do in the next few
months, and we have alot of fog here in the mornings this time of
year.


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Re: [WISPA] Looking for Bandwidth Manager

2010-10-15 Thread Forbes Mercy
  The response to my request has been overwhelming, this morning it was 
amazing, response after great response.  Because of the strong 
insistence that Mikrotik is so great we are trying to make it work.  
Dennis helped a lot by setting up remote sys log using software we 
already have.  We are setting up Network Monitoring, as we speak and we 
are already catching some culprits that have been causing a little 
havoc.  With our upgrade to 100MB next week we wanted hardware that can 
handle it, this is a learning process and we're so happy to have had the 
help in better understanding networks.

We won't overreact and just dump Mikrotik but now with the ability to 
maybe catch what's causing the problem we can rest a little easier 
knowing that when it happens, and it will, we can read the log file and 
hope it's something so simple we'll just kick ourselves, as Dennis 
said, we hope so.  The offers for help included three members committing 
to fly up there this weekend if we need them, Wow what a great group 
of people here!

Thanks to everyone for their help, it's the best of WISPA when everyone 
pitches in to help a WISP in trouble.

Forbes Mercy
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[WISPA] Looking for Bandwidth Manager

2010-10-14 Thread Forbes Mercy
  In my mission to rid our network of Mikrotik I need to shop for a new 
bandwidth manager since mine likes to randomly drop one of the ports or 
bridge, and reset the route gateway (twice already this week).  I'm 
looking for a more friendly windows type based unit, any suggestions.

Thanks,
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for Bandwidth Manager

2010-10-14 Thread Forbes Mercy
 Really Josh, you want me to rehash this?  To be simple I'm not a true 
geek, I barely speak linux and Router OS not at all.  Our network of 700 
over 12 towers is bridged, a big no-no but I can't keep radios up long 
enough to make us routed along with the growth sprut we've had this year 
(we 're averaging 3 installs a day with one installer/field tech).  
We've found that if you get over 50 on Mikrotik you start getting 
latency issues, four of our towers have over that.  When I was all 
Mikrotik (well 90% that 10% Moto) it worked great for about a year and a 
half, then the packet storms started, then radios started doing weird 
intermittent things like turning off.  Sure we did the obvious, change 
passwords, isolate the radios from the rest of the network but it just 
started to get worse, probably traffic driven from our ongoing growth 
that the greater demand for more bandwidth (we are 90% residential so 
Netflix type stuff).


To solve this we started replacing backhauls with Ubiquiti radios.  
Ubiquiti allows more traffic so the added pressure really started to 
take down the Mikrotik AP's, ports and bridges now drop with 
undiagnoisable (new word) regularity.  Then the bandwidth manager 
failed, Butch rebuilt it but for some reason the upgrade to 4.11 made 
failures happen more often that were like the AP's, dropped ports and 
bridges.  We compensated by making a path on the Ethernet side and 
in-network side so we could maybe ... (fix the disabled port/bridge) 
from either end.  We are spending all of our time building redundant 
this and redundant that until we realized one thing, on every outage 
Mikrotik's had cascading failures shutting down ports or turning off 
radios (disabling)  meanwhile Ubiquiti never went down, ever.  So we 
started pulling all Mikrotik backhauls, now we only lose AP's and the 
bandwidth manager.  Since the bandwidth manager takes the entire network 
down we want replace it.  Now you're up to speed on where we are, I call 
Mikrotik my 'backwards momentum' mover, we have to stop our forward 
motion on building and installing so we can restore service, it takes 
the fun out of this business thats for sure.


Forbes

On 10/14/2010 3:17 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:


Hrm why doesn't Mikrotik work?

On Oct 14, 2010 6:15 PM, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com 
mailto:forbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote:

 In my mission to rid our network of Mikrotik I need to shop for a new
 bandwidth manager since mine likes to randomly drop one of the ports or
 bridge, and reset the route gateway (twice already this week). I'm
 looking for a more friendly windows type based unit, any suggestions.

 Thanks,
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for Bandwidth Manager

2010-10-14 Thread Forbes Mercy
 Ask Butch, we have a kick-ass Bandwidth manager machine, it's no good 
when it disables it's ports or bridge randomly.  NO traffic over the 
Internet should have the ability to shut down the OS, Mikrotik does, 
Ubiquiti doesn't, simple as that.


On 10/14/2010 3:44 PM, Ryan Ghering wrote:

You want to base your network traffic on a windows based machine??
I wouldn't put the life of my network dependent on a windows box for 
ANY REASON... EVER..


Thats just suicide..

Why not just build a more stable x86 mikrotik router??
Our main mikrotik bridge for bandwidth management is a quad zeon 16 
gig ram and (4) 4 port mikrotik gigabit eth cards.
I've yet to have to reboot it in the year and 3 months its been 
online, its got all the horsepower it needs. (BTW the server is a 
rackable systems box if ya care) And its doing queuing for our entire 
/20 of which I've got about 3500 address's used.


Ryan

On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Forbes Mercy 
forbes.me...@wabroadband.com mailto:forbes.me...@wabroadband.com 
wrote:


 In my mission to rid our network of Mikrotik I need to shop for a new
bandwidth manager since mine likes to randomly drop one of the
ports or
bridge, and reset the route gateway (twice already this week).  I'm
looking for a more friendly windows type based unit, any suggestions.

Thanks,
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for Bandwidth Manager

2010-10-14 Thread Forbes Mercy
  Ya know I'd be a lot more patient for the smart a$$ comments if I 
didn't have to live through this, I've hired the best guys on this list 
to solve it and the only answer I get in the end is that shouldn't 
happen.  I can be non-geek enough to know if I can't hire the fix it 
ain't gonna work.  All the loyalists to a certain brand be it Mikrotik 
or Mac users can either say 'if he can't make that work here's our 
suggestion' or come sit in my chair for a while and wait for the 
hundreds of calls when a piece of gear just drops for no reason.  I've 
avoided Windows like the plague and run a 100% linux back end, every ISP 
I bought I converted to my format, you don't have to tell me horror 
stories I've been in this business since the beginning. I'm inferring to 
a more GUI type interface, hell it could be redhat for all I know, I'm 
looking for solutions not preferences.

On 10/14/2010 4:27 PM, Jeremy Parr wrote:
 Splendid idea there guy, replace Mikrotik with a Windows box. Gotta
 wonder I'd the problem is between the keyboard and the chair here.

 On 10/14/10, Forbes Mercyforbes.me...@wabroadband.com  wrote:
In my mission to rid our network of Mikrotik I need to shop for a new
 bandwidth manager since mine likes to randomly drop one of the ports or
 bridge, and reset the route gateway (twice already this week).  I'm
 looking for a more friendly windows type based unit, any suggestions.

 Thanks,
 Forbes


 
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for Bandwidth Manager

2010-10-14 Thread Forbes Mercy
 I also haven't been in my core router in ages, my template IS by Butch 
as I stated before, I HAVE had Dennis look at the outages, everyone is 
stumped, if I can't depend on it I don't want it.  THEN I'll have time 
to route the network.  I've used Mikrotik for years and until the load 
got to high things ran fine, I wish I could make it work but its down 
just too much.


On 10/14/2010 4:18 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

I agree with Travis.

Also the thread is about a bandwidth manager, which just like Travis, 
you would do at the edge between you and your upstream.  Your APs, 
backhauls and other radios can be Ubnt/Canopy/Linksys/etc


I would suggest spending the minimal amount of money for the MT 
router, Butch's template and forget about it.  If you do have an issue 
(IMO it will be something a person did to the network if no one logs 
into it making changes all the time) you have Butch, Dennis, the list, 
etc.


I can't remember the last time I logged into the core router.  When I 
did, it was to copy some rules to share on a list or ##mikrotik.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net 
mailto:t...@ida.net wrote:


Hi,

You need to fix your network, not the hardware/software you are
running. I have over 60 Mikrotik backhaul links, with over 1,000
Mikrotik customer radios (plus thousands more Trango and Canopy)
and have NONE of the issues you describe.

Our main edge router is a Mikrotik box (x86 with Quad core) and it
has thousands of rules and NAT translations, moving 450Mbps x
150Mbps on a daily basis, and has been up for over 6 months right
now (due only to firmware upgrades).

Having your network bridged is the problem. Take time out and fix
that, or you will continue to have more and more problems...

Travis
Microserv



On 10/14/2010 4:45 PM, Forbes Mercy wrote:

Really Josh, you want me to rehash this?  To be simple I'm not a
true geek, I barely speak linux and Router OS not at all.  Our
network of 700 over 12 towers is bridged, a big no-no but I can't
keep radios up long enough to make us routed along with the
growth sprut we've had this year (we 're averaging 3 installs a
day with one installer/field tech).  We've found that if you get
over 50 on Mikrotik you start getting latency issues, four of our
towers have over that.  When I was all Mikrotik (well 90% that
10% Moto) it worked great for about a year and a half, then the
packet storms started, then radios started doing weird
intermittent things like turning off.  Sure we did the obvious,
change passwords, isolate the radios from the rest of the network
but it just started to get worse, probably traffic driven from
our ongoing growth that the greater demand for more bandwidth (we
are 90% residential so Netflix type stuff).

To solve this we started replacing backhauls with Ubiquiti
radios.  Ubiquiti allows more traffic so the added pressure
really started to take down the Mikrotik AP's, ports and bridges
now drop with undiagnoisable (new word) regularity.  Then the
bandwidth manager failed, Butch rebuilt it but for some reason
the upgrade to 4.11 made failures happen more often that were
like the AP's, dropped ports and bridges.  We compensated by
making a path on the Ethernet side and in-network side so we
could maybe ... (fix the disabled port/bridge) from either end. 
We are spending all of our time building redundant this and

redundant that until we realized one thing, on every outage
Mikrotik's had cascading failures shutting down ports or turning
off radios (disabling)  meanwhile Ubiquiti never went down,
ever.  So we started pulling all Mikrotik backhauls, now we only
lose AP's and the bandwidth manager.  Since the bandwidth manager
takes the entire network down we want replace it.  Now you're up
to speed on where we are, I call Mikrotik my 'backwards momentum'
mover, we have to stop our forward motion on building and
installing so we can restore service, it takes the fun out of
this business thats for sure.

Forbes

On 10/14/2010 3:17 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:


Hrm why doesn't Mikrotik work?

On Oct 14, 2010 6:15 PM, Forbes Mercy
forbes.me...@wabroadband.com
mailto:forbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote:
 In my mission to rid our network of Mikrotik I need to shop
for a new
 bandwidth manager since mine likes to randomly drop one of the
ports or
 bridge, and reset the route gateway (twice already this week).
I'm
 looking for a more friendly windows type based unit, any
suggestions.

 Thanks,
 Forbes





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Re: [WISPA] Looking for Bandwidth Manager

2010-10-14 Thread Forbes Mercy
  Again not a true statement, $3000 for a visit by a network 
administrator to route us (already got the quote), $600 for a packeteer 
on eBay.  Then we can route it ourselves because the network won't drop 
every day when a piece of crap router drops the ethernet port every time 
it sees traffic it doesn't like, who designs something like that 
anyway!?  ZERO drops from UBNT gear and it's handling the exact same 
gear as the Mikrotik did, EXACT same packets. OK ok sorry I'm getting 
pissed now, going to walk away for the night... I just asked for 
alternatives, that's all.  Didn't mean to walk into the MAC users group 
and say Windows was better.

On 10/14/2010 5:01 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote:
 Sounds like you need to have someone come visit the network in person.
 There has to be a reasonable explination for what is going on your
 network, and i posit that no device you find is going to work right
 till that root cause is found.

 On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Forbes Mercy
 forbes.me...@wabroadband.com  wrote:
 I also haven't been in my core router in ages, my template IS by Butch as I
 stated before, I HAVE had Dennis look at the outages, everyone is stumped,
 if I can't depend on it I don't want it.  THEN I'll have time to route the
 network.  I've used Mikrotik for years and until the load got to high things
 ran fine, I wish I could make it work but its down just too much.

 On 10/14/2010 4:18 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 I agree with Travis.

 Also the thread is about a bandwidth manager, which just like Travis, you
 would do at the edge between you and your upstream.  Your APs, backhauls and
 other radios can be Ubnt/Canopy/Linksys/etc

 I would suggest spending the minimal amount of money for the MT router,
 Butch's template and forget about it.  If you do have an issue (IMO it will
 be something a person did to the network if no one logs into it making
 changes all the time) you have Butch, Dennis, the list, etc.

 I can't remember the last time I logged into the core router.  When I did,
 it was to copy some rules to share on a list or ##mikrotik.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373


 On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Travis Johnsont...@ida.net  wrote:
 Hi,

 You need to fix your network, not the hardware/software you are running. I
 have over 60 Mikrotik backhaul links, with over 1,000 Mikrotik customer
 radios (plus thousands more Trango and Canopy) and have NONE of the issues
 you describe.

 Our main edge router is a Mikrotik box (x86 with Quad core) and it has
 thousands of rules and NAT translations, moving 450Mbps x 150Mbps on a daily
 basis, and has been up for over 6 months right now (due only to firmware
 upgrades).

 Having your network bridged is the problem. Take time out and fix that, or
 you will continue to have more and more problems...

 Travis
 Microserv


 On 10/14/2010 4:45 PM, Forbes Mercy wrote:

 Really Josh, you want me to rehash this?  To be simple I'm not a true
 geek, I barely speak linux and Router OS not at all.  Our network of 700
 over 12 towers is bridged, a big no-no but I can't keep radios up long
 enough to make us routed along with the growth sprut we've had this year (we
 're averaging 3 installs a day with one installer/field tech).  We've found
 that if you get over 50 on Mikrotik you start getting latency issues, four
 of our towers have over that.  When I was all Mikrotik (well 90% that 10%
 Moto) it worked great for about a year and a half, then the packet storms
 started, then radios started doing weird intermittent things like turning
 off.  Sure we did the obvious, change passwords, isolate the radios from the
 rest of the network but it just started to get worse, probably traffic
 driven from our ongoing growth that the greater demand for more bandwidth
 (we are 90% residential so Netflix type stuff).

 To solve this we started replacing backhauls with Ubiquiti radios.
 Ubiquiti allows more traffic so the added pressure really started to take
 down the Mikrotik AP's, ports and bridges now drop with undiagnoisable (new
 word) regularity.  Then the bandwidth manager failed, Butch rebuilt it but
 for some reason the upgrade to 4.11 made failures happen more often that
 were like the AP's, dropped ports and bridges.  We compensated by making a
 path on the Ethernet side and in-network side so we could maybe ... (fix the
 disabled port/bridge) from either end.  We are spending all of our time
 building redundant this and redundant that until we realized one thing, on
 every outage Mikrotik's had cascading failures shutting down ports or
 turning off radios (disabling)  meanwhile Ubiquiti never went down, ever.
 So we started pulling all Mikrotik backhauls, now we only lose AP's and the
 bandwidth manager.  Since the bandwidth manager takes the entire network
 down we want replace it.  Now you're up to speed on where we are, I call
 Mikrotik my 'backwards momentum' mover, we have to stop our

Re: [WISPA] Looking for Bandwidth Manager

2010-10-14 Thread Forbes Mercy

 Thanks Josh I'll try that

Forbes

On 10/14/2010 5:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:


Run smokeping and Dude.  You need to find the issues or you may spend 
money needlessly.


On Oct 14, 2010 7:57 PM, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com 
mailto:forbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote:

 I also haven't been in my core router in ages, my template IS by Butch
 as I stated before, I HAVE had Dennis look at the outages, everyone is
 stumped, if I can't depend on it I don't want it. THEN I'll have time
 to route the network. I've used Mikrotik for years and until the load
 got to high things ran fine, I wish I could make it work but its down
 just too much.

 On 10/14/2010 4:18 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 I agree with Travis.

 Also the thread is about a bandwidth manager, which just like Travis,
 you would do at the edge between you and your upstream. Your APs,
 backhauls and other radios can be Ubnt/Canopy/Linksys/etc

 I would suggest spending the minimal amount of money for the MT
 router, Butch's template and forget about it. If you do have an issue
 (IMO it will be something a person did to the network if no one logs
 into it making changes all the time) you have Butch, Dennis, the list,
 etc.

 I can't remember the last time I logged into the core router. When I
 did, it was to copy some rules to share on a list or ##mikrotik.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373


 On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net 
mailto:t...@ida.net

 mailto:t...@ida.net mailto:t...@ida.net wrote:

 Hi,

 You need to fix your network, not the hardware/software you are
 running. I have over 60 Mikrotik backhaul links, with over 1,000
 Mikrotik customer radios (plus thousands more Trango and Canopy)
 and have NONE of the issues you describe.

 Our main edge router is a Mikrotik box (x86 with Quad core) and it
 has thousands of rules and NAT translations, moving 450Mbps x
 150Mbps on a daily basis, and has been up for over 6 months right
 now (due only to firmware upgrades).

 Having your network bridged is the problem. Take time out and fix
 that, or you will continue to have more and more problems...

 Travis
 Microserv



 On 10/14/2010 4:45 PM, Forbes Mercy wrote:
 Really Josh, you want me to rehash this? To be simple I'm not a
 true geek, I barely speak linux and Router OS not at all. Our
 network of 700 over 12 towers is bridged, a big no-no but I can't
 keep radios up long enough to make us routed along with the
 growth sprut we've had this year (we 're averaging 3 installs a
 day with one installer/field tech). We've found that if you get
 over 50 on Mikrotik you start getting latency issues, four of our
 towers have over that. When I was all Mikrotik (well 90% that
 10% Moto) it worked great for about a year and a half, then the
 packet storms started, then radios started doing weird
 intermittent things like turning off. Sure we did the obvious,
 change passwords, isolate the radios from the rest of the network
 but it just started to get worse, probably traffic driven from
 our ongoing growth that the greater demand for more bandwidth (we
 are 90% residential so Netflix type stuff).

 To solve this we started replacing backhauls with Ubiquiti
 radios. Ubiquiti allows more traffic so the added pressure
 really started to take down the Mikrotik AP's, ports and bridges
 now drop with undiagnoisable (new word) regularity. Then the
 bandwidth manager failed, Butch rebuilt it but for some reason
 the upgrade to 4.11 made failures happen more often that were
 like the AP's, dropped ports and bridges. We compensated by
 making a path on the Ethernet side and in-network side so we
 could maybe ... (fix the disabled port/bridge) from either end.
 We are spending all of our time building redundant this and
 redundant that until we realized one thing, on every outage
 Mikrotik's had cascading failures shutting down ports or turning
 off radios (disabling) meanwhile Ubiquiti never went down,
 ever. So we started pulling all Mikrotik backhauls, now we only
 lose AP's and the bandwidth manager. Since the bandwidth manager
 takes the entire network down we want replace it. Now you're up
 to speed on where we are, I call Mikrotik my 'backwards momentum'
 mover, we have to stop our forward motion on building and
 installing so we can restore service, it takes the fun out of
 this business thats for sure.

 Forbes

 On 10/14/2010 3:17 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 Hrm why doesn't Mikrotik work?

 On Oct 14, 2010 6:15 PM, Forbes Mercy
 forbes.me...@wabroadband.com mailto:forbes.me...@wabroadband.com
 mailto:forbes.me...@wabroadband.com 
mailto:forbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote:

  In my mission to rid our network of Mikrotik I need to shop
 for a new
  bandwidth manager since mine likes to randomly drop one of the
 ports or
  bridge, and reset the route gateway (twice already this week).
 I'm
  looking for a more friendly windows type based unit, any
 suggestions

Re: [WISPA] Solar Flare Problems

2010-10-13 Thread Forbes Mercy
  I recently replaced a Mikrotik board that blew up thus I couldn't 
get the MAC addresses off of it, after watching the Access List for two 
days we thought we had it pretty much copied over but we are still 
getting calls saying their down.  Is there a simple way to copy and 
paste the MAC addresses into some program then turn access list on and 
copy that list to find unique MAC addresses so we can make a complete 
list without waiting for angry customers to call?

Thanks,
Forbes



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[WISPA] Mikrotik Access List

2010-10-13 Thread Forbes Mercy
  Sorry Jim, perhaps I didn't say it right, we had default authenticate 
on so everyone could associate, then transferred it over to the access 
list as you said but we still appeared to have 10 or so radios not 
associating at the time we did the cntl-A.  Now I want to open default 
again but I don't want to copy the list to some place I can compare the 
missing MAC addresses.

On 10/13/2010 9:40 AM, Jim Patient wrote:
Just turn on default authenticate,  let them all connect and then
 ctr=a to select all in the registration table and copy to access list.

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 On 10/13/2010 11:37 AM, Forbes Mercy wrote:
 I recently replaced a Mikrotik board that blew up thus I couldn't
 get the MAC addresses off of it, after watching the Access List for two
 days we thought we had it pretty much copied over but we are still
 getting calls saying their down.  Is there a simple way to copy and
 paste the MAC addresses into some program then turn access list on and
 copy that list to find unique MAC addresses so we can make a complete
 list without waiting for angry customers to call?

 Thanks,
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Re: [WISPA] Workers Trapped in Hollywood Water Tower Tank

2010-10-08 Thread Forbes Mercy
  Fire Departments should have an Access Point and recording device on 
the rescue vehicle and a camera with audio with wireless on their rig so 
they can lower it down to the victims when they first get there to 
better size up the condition of the payment and have instant 
communication.  No more (Hey are you OK down there?)  Hell they could 
put telemetry on it too.

Forbes

On 10/8/2010 10:23 AM, Cameron Kilton wrote:
 There real question is where is the safety equipment? fall arrest
 laynards etc. This is why we have all this equipment. If they fell and
 were clipped in, it just would have been more uncomfortable rather than
 potentially deadly.


 -Cameron


 On 10/8/2010 1:34 PM, St. Louis Broadband wrote:
 My pelican clip froze and I had replaced my wd40 with a red bull,
 unfortunately it did not give me wings…

 ~V~

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 *Sent:* Friday, October 08, 2010 12:22 PM
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 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Workers Trapped in Hollywood Water Tower Tank

 I've got both water tanks and communication towers. I'll take the water
 tanks hands down as long as they're in good shape. They're much easier
 to work on without hangin around :)

 On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 1:06 PM, St. Louis Broadband
 li...@stlbroadband.commailto:li...@stlbroadband.com  wrote:

 Nasty. Poor guys, I am saying a prayer for them.

 I know water towers are part of our industry, but frankly, they scare me.

 Got stuck on one about 80’ up in the tube and have never felt right
 about them since.

 *Victoria Proffer - President/CEO*

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Re: [WISPA] Shopping for bandwidth

2010-10-04 Thread Forbes Mercy
 I can't disclose because of NDA agreements what we pay but you should 
pay $15-$25 a meg.


On 10/4/2010 2:16 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

I recently got a $2900 100 meg quote from an ATT reseller.

In today's world (depending on your target audience), a Level 3 or 
Cogent would be better than MCI or ATT.

-
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Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


On 10/4/2010 3:30 PM, Nick Olsen wrote:
To answer the OP, No, Don't tell them what you pay, And if you do. 
Tell them something much lower then what you really pay.


rambling
Cogent is cheap (watch for there half price sales...) I've seen 
100Mb/s from them as low as like $300


Everyone else hates cogent. I had a Verizon rep quote me something 
like $2900 for 100Mb/s (on-net). I laughed at the guy. And he pulled 
the famous line (Level 3 loves this one too), Well, you get access 
to the proven $provider network, Cogent's Network can't compete with 
ours.


ATT takes the cake however. A real quote from ATT came back for 
$5465.04 for 50Mb/s and $9210.78 for 100Mb/s. No, I'm not kidding. 
You can get way better prices though a 3rd party ATT rep. Not sure 
what they really call them (solutions providers?).

/rambling

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Network Operations
(877) 804-3001  x106




*From*: Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.net
*Sent*: Monday, October 04, 2010 3:56 PM
*To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
*Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Shopping for bandwidth

I can get Cogent for $600 per month for 100/100 meg! Just have to BH 
it 44 miles..


On 10/04/2010 12:55 PM, support wrote:

   Tell them you pay $200 per month for A 50/50 meg link can you beat
that? :)

On 10/4/2010 2:46 PM, Cameron Kilton wrote:
   

I just laugh at them and say, wouldn't you like to know


Thanks,
Cameron Kilton


On 10/4/2010 3:31 PM, Roger Howard wrote:
 

What do you do when you ask for a quote for bandwidth, and the person
asks what you are paying right now. Do you tell them, and if you do,
won't they just undercut it by a  little just to get your business?
Seems like a strange way of doing business to ask what you're paying
for something before giving you a quote.

Thanks,
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Re: [WISPA] MUM USA

2010-09-29 Thread Forbes Mercy
Just checked in at Phoenix, already seeing some familiar faces.  Met two 
Canadian WISP's in the shuttle bus, going to set up the table now, 
pretty warm here but my room (125) is right outside of the pool, sweet!  
Unlike St. Louis I didn't buy booze for a room party because I knew 
Marlon wasn't coming, see you all at the WISPA table, tell anyone you 
meet this is the place to sign up, we'll have a computer at the table 
and they can do it right then if they want!

Forbes Mercy
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 I'll be there at 4:30.

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 On Sep 29, 2010, at 7:24 AM, Steve Barnesst...@pcswin.com  wrote:


  
 Leaving in a couple of hours for MUM in Phoenix.  Who else will be there?  
 Where are we getting together at Thursday or Friday night?

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Re: [WISPA] MUM USA

2010-09-29 Thread forbes . mercy
At 6PM Mikrotik is sponsoring early registration drinks and food in the
hallway of the conference center, see you all there!

 Leaving in a couple of hours for MUM in Phoenix.  Who else will be there?
 Where are we getting together at Thursday or Friday night?

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Re: [WISPA] TV whitespaces - Whats the next step

2010-09-27 Thread Forbes Mercy
  OK so in my area there is a three channel space of 26,27 and, 28 
available.  I guess my goal is to camp out on 27, knowing this how to I 
stake the claim and start working toward deployment?  I know it's 
oversimplified but that's where I have to start.

Forbes

On 9/25/2010 8:37 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
According to that page, only 2, 5, and 6 are available for me.
 Assuming their data is correct, TVWS are almost not even worth my time.
 6 channels are reserved for wireless mics.

 -
 Mike Hammett
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 On 9/25/2010 12:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 8 Channels around here for me...

 http://www.spectrumbridge.com/products-services/whitespaces/showmywhitespace/single-location-search.aspx

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 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
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 On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Jeromie Reevesjree...@18-30chat.net   
 wrote:
 That was where my question was going. 12mhz could let you use a 10mhz
 channel. Yes we are used to half duplex because that is what most
 people make. I would love full duplex and with all the mimo gear it
 just my be possible to do it at a end user acceptable rate.

 Most of the area I am interested in have 1 block of 4 channels. One
 has 2, and a 3rd has 10!  I am very interested in find the exact
 contours for that one and what kind of bonding might be possible. Even
 just 40mhz Rockets would make me happy for a while.

 On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Mike Hammettwispawirel...@ics-il.net   
 wrote:
That's another thing to remember...  to have any usable throughput
 you're going to have to find several channels together.

 With UBNT gear, 6 MHz only yields 15 megabits.  MT's N might double that.

 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 On 9/25/2010 4:25 AM, Jeromie Reeves wrote:
 Ah much better. Now, if a town has say 4 channels open (in a row) like
 2 3 4 5, can you use 3 and 4, keeping 2 and 5 as the guard channels?
 or will you need to pick 3 or 4?

 On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 2:05 AM, Blair Davisthe...@wmwisp.net wrote:
 It is broke.  Use http://www.spectrumbridge.com instead.



 Josh Luthman wrote:

 I go to it and it seems there are no available channels anywhere I
 search.  Maybe they're working on it?  Maybe I'm doing something
 wrong?

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 4:46 AM, Jeromie Reevesjree...@18-30chat.net
 wrote:


 Am I the only one its not working for? I get script errors like
 'Server Error in '/WSWebGUI' Application.' (and more info snipped).
 Scripts are turned on in FireFox on Linux and Windows, and IE does not
 have any changes from default (it is never used). Clicking on channels
 jumps it to the default view. Clicking 'Show nearby incumbents' always
 results in a error. Using addresses in the search works, displays the
 bing map of the location, and all buttons (except show nearby) jump
 back to the default. Any ideas?

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 char...@knownelement.com wrote:


 http://whitespaces.msresearch.us/

 Kind of cool I think...


 
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Re: [WISPA] MUM

2010-09-26 Thread Forbes Mercy

 Best way to get to the conference center from the airport?

On 9/26/2010 5:00 PM, Dennis Burgess wrote:


If anyone is interested, hitting up the Hotel Bar/Grill for some food 
and drinks!


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Re: [WISPA] Today is a Momentous Day for our Industry - Sept. 23rd, 2010

2010-09-26 Thread Forbes Mercy

 I have 12 towers surrounding Yakima with my head-end in Moxee.

On 9/26/2010 10:28 AM, MDK wrote:
It appears that you have, even if VHF-Lo turns out to be not workable, 
several UHF channels.
Of course, if you have real estate on the hills to the north, east, 
and south, you're not too bad off, either.
( wife's mother lives in Yakima, son's going to be going to YVCC 
sometime soon, I think, I know the place somewhat.)
I ran the center of town type of scenario,  putting the spot somewhere 
a little west of the railroad tracks and just south of the downtown 
corridor.   I suspect it may change if you move out toward Moxee or  
through the gap out toward Wapato, or up north toward Naches.
The spectrumbridge tool works pretty decently, but it lacks 
explanation of some of the features.

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*From:* Forbes Mercy mailto:forbes.me...@wabroadband.com
*Sent:* Saturday, September 25, 2010 8:29 PM
*To:* WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Today is a Momentous Day for our Industry - 
Sept. 23rd, 2010


Well since I'm Yakima you now have my attention!

Forbes Mercy
President - Washington Broadband, Inc.

On 9/25/2010 5:00 PM, MDK wrote:
Your sarcasm would be, well, effective, if I weren't correct about 
there being no way to use it.   No other WISP is going to be able to 
do what I can't do, either, Jack.
In my town, there is ONE UHF channel.   6 mhz.   That's it.  In the 
mountains, where we need it due to forest, it can't be done.Get 
yourself a copy of Radio Mobile and check your HAAT, RM uses the 
FCC's requirement as its defaults.
There's ONE VHF-HI channel.Two VHF-LO channels.   And, as 
mentioned, the VHF low is so susceptible to noise I doubt anyone will 
even try to make anything work there.   One flourescent light on and 
your internet goes dead...
So, while this is fantastic in theory,  in reality, this spectrum 
will not be useable to signficant level, by many WISP's.  If you use 
the tools you have and start inspecting your sites, you'll find that 
there's a lot more use of TV space than you knew.And, some places 
are amazingly open.
However, some of the rural guys will find lots of space.   I hope, 
anyway.

Gresham, OR,  - 2 channels
Portland, OR,  - 2 channels
Spokane, WA,  12 channels - but a good chunk won't work due to HAAT 
limitations.

Libby, MT, 37 channels
Moro, or, 36 channels ( population, 400?)
Tacoma, WA, 12 channels
yakima, WA , 14
Lawrence, KS.  12
The majority of examples above include at least half the channels in 
VHF.   As I noted before, there ARE obstacles to overcome in using 
VHF, especially VHF-lo.   Even VHF-hi could prove to be seriously 
susceptible to interference.Also,  the VHF and and sometimes even 
UHF frequencies are subject to interference by skip, which will 
cause cyclical interference issues, by broadcasters far, far away.   
We'll find out when either makers trials leak results,  or when 
people start trying.
These are some of the technical issues that will become part of our 
vocabulary as we try to move into this.   Has anyone here seen any 
trials done in the VHF frequencies?
I did some propagation examples in my town, using RM and UHF, and it 
appears we're going to be limited to around 1.5 miles max distance, 
unless you can get your antenna near max height, both AP and client 
due the fact the fresnel zone is HUGE!
I didn't dry the VHF bands, as I couldn't find quickly find any 
antenna specs published for the frequencies.

++
Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy
541-969-8200  509-386-4589
++

*From:* Jack Unger mailto:jun...@ask-wi.com
*Sent:* Saturday, September 25, 2010 3:53 PM
*To:* WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Today is a Momentous Day for our Industry - 
Sept. 23rd, 2010


Hello Mark,

Thank-you for your comments and thanks in advance for agreeing not to 
use the available TV White Space channels in your area. That will 
leave those open for another WISP to use.


Thank you again and best regards,

jack






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Re: [WISPA] Today is a Momentous Day for our Industry - Sept. 23rd, 2010

2010-09-25 Thread Forbes Mercy

 Well since I'm Yakima you now have my attention!

Forbes Mercy
President - Washington Broadband, Inc.

On 9/25/2010 5:00 PM, MDK wrote:
Your sarcasm would be, well, effective, if I weren't correct about 
there being no way to use it.   No other WISP is going to be able to 
do what I can't do, either, Jack.
In my town, there is ONE UHF channel.   6 mhz.   That's it.  In the 
mountains, where we need it due to forest, it can't be done.Get 
yourself a copy of Radio Mobile and check your HAAT, RM uses the FCC's 
requirement as its defaults.
There's ONE VHF-HI channel.Two VHF-LO channels.   And, as 
mentioned, the VHF low is so susceptible to noise I doubt anyone will 
even try to make anything work there.   One flourescent light on and 
your internet goes dead...
So, while this is fantastic in theory,  in reality, this spectrum will 
not be useable to signficant level, by many WISP's.  If you use the 
tools you have and start inspecting your sites, you'll find that 
there's a lot more use of TV space than you knew.And, some places 
are amazingly open.
However, some of the rural guys will find lots of space.   I hope, 
anyway.

Gresham, OR,  - 2 channels
Portland, OR,  - 2 channels
Spokane, WA,  12 channels - but a good chunk won't work due to HAAT 
limitations.

Libby, MT, 37 channels
Moro, or, 36 channels ( population, 400?)
Tacoma, WA, 12 channels
yakima, WA , 14
Lawrence, KS.  12
The majority of examples above include at least half the channels in 
VHF.   As I noted before, there ARE obstacles to overcome in using 
VHF, especially VHF-lo.   Even VHF-hi could prove to be seriously 
susceptible to interference.Also,  the VHF and and sometimes even 
UHF frequencies are subject to interference by skip, which will 
cause cyclical interference issues, by broadcasters far, far away.   
We'll find out when either makers trials leak results,  or when people 
start trying.
These are some of the technical issues that will become part of our 
vocabulary as we try to move into this.   Has anyone here seen any 
trials done in the VHF frequencies?
I did some propagation examples in my town, using RM and UHF, and it 
appears we're going to be limited to around 1.5 miles max distance, 
unless you can get your antenna near max height, both AP and client 
due the fact the fresnel zone is HUGE!
I didn't dry the VHF bands, as I couldn't find quickly find any 
antenna specs published for the frequencies.

++
Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy
541-969-8200  509-386-4589
++

*From:* Jack Unger mailto:jun...@ask-wi.com
*Sent:* Saturday, September 25, 2010 3:53 PM
*To:* WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Today is a Momentous Day for our Industry - 
Sept. 23rd, 2010


Hello Mark,

Thank-you for your comments and thanks in advance for agreeing not to 
use the available TV White Space channels in your area. That will 
leave those open for another WISP to use.


Thank you again and best regards,

jack






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Re: [WISPA] I'm pulling Mikrotik

2010-09-18 Thread Forbes Mercy

Steve,

What a nice email, thanks. Yes I'm at the hotel bar at LA and you're 
right, this was a recipe to fix the chest pain my system was giving my 
young heart. :)  This is a very supportive list of some very good people 
and I'm sorry when I just lash out but Thursday's 16 hour work day and 8 
outages was about all I could take.  I fully understand those saying 
route your network but last week when I put in a gig switch with layer 
3 switching to start the routing chain, just installing it caused 4 
outages before I even put it on the network.  Some day I think the 'gods 
against progress' just wait for me to start improvements then slam me 
with outages to keep me from finishing. I almost feel dramatic in my 
response but I hate drama and people who whine but I've called these 
experts and they all disagree use WDS, turn on STP, no don't use 
STP, its all so confusing when not a true geek in the literal sense.  
Im trying to grasp the technicalities but I'm more a marketing guy who 
has a pretty kick ass system and a lot of really really loyal customers, 
I just want to do good by them.  Have a great weekend and I look forward 
to seeing you at MUM.  Well off to bed, I'm going to go ride roller 
coasters tomorrow, dammit I'm not too old even at 52!


Forbes


On 9/17/2010 5:52 AM, Steve Barnes wrote:


Forbes, I understand your feelings and I hope your vacation is better 
than you expect.  My recommendation is you have good people they can 
do it.  Have someone hide your laptop and leave your cellphone in your 
room and go enjoy your vacation.  Take an hour at the end of the day 
and check up on where things are to ease your mind.  We will learn 
ways at MUM to help you out.  Maybe you ought to pay a MTik Guru to 
look over your network layout and help you out.  I will have such a 
guru riding shotgun with me at MUM.  He may want to charge you for 
real support if you get two deep but he will give you some time I am 
sure on evening.


But till then relax if nothing else for the weekend.

*Steve Barnes*

RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service http://www.rcwifi.com/

*From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
*On Behalf Of *Ryan Ghering

*Sent:* Friday, September 17, 2010 8:41 AM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] I'm pulling Mikrotik

You know its funny I read these experiences with different types of 
gear, mind you we have never used Mikrotik for SM's to the customers 
but we do use them exclusively for other things.
However we have similar problems with ANY of the gear we have 
purchased over the years. Most the most problems we experience are 
nearly 90% customer related.


LIke.. Well yea I unplugged it all and replugged it in and it still 
don't work I.E  the customer plugged the gear in WRONG again..


Or I'm getting all sorts of packet-loss.. I.E the customer had roof 
work done and never told us so the antenna is out of alignment and or 
cable was cut and soldered back together.

( We get a lot of that one btw.)

And EVEN with a 65.00 trip fee they continue to do stupid crap, its 
the nature of our business I think..


However my FAVORITE problem of all time and we have had about 9 of 
these is from customers on Canopy 900 units.


It goes..

YOU BLEW UP MY ETHERNET AND OR MOTHERBOARD WITH YOUR GEAR!!!

yes somehow we blew up the customers gear even though the SM is setup 
properly using a Canopy Surge Suppressor and a router between the SM 
and PC..


We actually had 2 customers try to Sue us over this.. And even though 
we won, they STILL don't believe that it wasn't us.. Stranger is that 
they still want to be customers..


BTW all 9 of those ended up with a bad AC line in the house or broken 
ground and or neutral..


My main point here is that even we the ISP's need to remember that we 
are dealing with mass produced electronics. Products that are made as 
cheaply and quickly as possible to feed
our customers needs. While some of us may get years of good service 
from one brand others may only get months or days. To many factors go 
into why that is..


But in the most basic form, I'll tell you what my instructor told all 
of us in my DC electronics class nearly 20 years ago.. If its got a 
circuit board it will break in some manner.. Its only a matter of when.


BTW I do know that most config issues where the config is lost and or 
reset is due to large amounts of static electricity hitting the gear.. 
Doesn't matter what gear it is.. When a large (static burst)

hits the NVRAM on a board it will often erase the config.

But thanks for reading.. Just my 2 cents..

Ryan

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 6:18 AM, Jeremy Parr jeremyp...@gmail.com 
mailto:jeremyp...@gmail.com wrote:


On 17 September 2010 04:27, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com 
mailto:forbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote:


How my day ended, I really don't mean to slight Mikrotik or it's
dealers.  People who route their networks will have a fraction of
the problems I have

Re: [WISPA] I'm pulling Mikrotik

2010-09-18 Thread Forbes Mercy
Some 411's some 433's all running 4.11, the 133's are running 
3.something, all current with firmware upgrades as well, no change to 
speak of.



On 9/17/2010 5:18 AM, Jeremy Parr wrote:
On 17 September 2010 04:27, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com 
mailto:forbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote:


How my day ended, I really don't mean to slight Mikrotik or it's
dealers.  People who route their networks will have a fraction of
the problems I have but I have to admit the excuse of must be
your employees or  that never happens got old about 20 outages
ago.  Today I had 8 major outages, 4 of them we found a bridge or
ports erased and the IP displaying 0.0.0.0.  This was an easy fix,
log in and add the bridge and ports then click on the IP and it
came back legitimate again.  Shame we had to make the trip to the
towers to do that.  The other 4 not so easy, they showed the IP
correctly but not in Winbox and they had the MAC address as
00.00.00.00.00, well 12 times, you get it.  Those we had to pull
the backhaul and reset it then reprogram it.  A hellish day but we
didn't miss the fact that the UBNT units never crashed no matter
what this crazy bridging issue was.  It was just a real bad day to
be in this business but I appreciate the help that I got from
Mikrotik dealers who really care to help resolve this but are as
equally frustrated as I was, while aging about 3 years in one
day.  Like watching a baby sleep the night is uneventful after a
15 hour work day and my with my added worry about taking 4
vacation days this weekend.  I wish I could trust the equipment
from overreacting to every damn bit of unfriendly traffic by
shutting down the LAN port or resetting the radio but I can't,
it's my employees problem now but it will certainly take away from
the joy of my time off since I know their attitude is more like,
'let them wait' then my feeling of 'people down is lost income',
employees


What hardware do you run MT on, and what versions of the software are 
you using?






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Re: [WISPA] I'm pulling Mikrotik

2010-09-17 Thread Forbes Mercy
 How my day ended, I really don't mean to slight Mikrotik or it's 
dealers.  People who route their networks will have a fraction of the 
problems I have but I have to admit the excuse of must be your 
employees or  that never happens got old about 20 outages ago.  Today 
I had 8 major outages, 4 of them we found a bridge or ports erased and 
the IP displaying 0.0.0.0.  This was an easy fix, log in and add the 
bridge and ports then click on the IP and it came back legitimate 
again.  Shame we had to make the trip to the towers to do that.  The 
other 4 not so easy, they showed the IP correctly but not in Winbox and 
they had the MAC address as 00.00.00.00.00, well 12 times, you get it.  
Those we had to pull the backhaul and reset it then reprogram it.  A 
hellish day but we didn't miss the fact that the UBNT units never 
crashed no matter what this crazy bridging issue was.  It was just a 
real bad day to be in this business but I appreciate the help that I got 
from Mikrotik dealers who really care to help resolve this but are as 
equally frustrated as I was, while aging about 3 years in one day.  Like 
watching a baby sleep the night is uneventful after a 15 hour work day 
and my with my added worry about taking 4 vacation days this weekend.  I 
wish I could trust the equipment from overreacting to every damn bit of 
unfriendly traffic by shutting down the LAN port or resetting the radio 
but I can't, it's my employees problem now but it will certainly take 
away from the joy of my time off since I know their attitude is more 
like, 'let them wait' then my feeling of 'people down is lost income', 
employees


Forbes

On 9/16/2010 7:44 PM, RickG wrote:
For me, the StarOS/WRAP combo performed very well since 2004. The only 
issues I had were coax related. Otherwise, I agree, I dont like 
equipment you have to put together. I save my tinkering around for 
personal stuff but much rather have a fully designed radio for 
commercial purposes.


On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Mark Nash - Lists markl...@uwol.net 
mailto:markl...@uwol.net wrote:


There's something to be said for losing faith in a technology.
 For me,
it's the build-it-yourself radios.  All of them.  Mikrotik 
StarOS.  For
me, I see such a high service call rate for repairs, the need to
put in
redundant backhauls sooner than later because we can almost guarantee
something's going to malfunction.

Ubiquiti has brought to us good enough pricing to have us make the
leap of
faith and hopefully their product is more stable over time,
keeping much of
the success or failure of a unit out of the hands of the installer.

- Original Message -
From: Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com
mailto:forbes.me...@wabroadband.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
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Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 11:04 AM
Subject: [WISPA] I'm pulling Mikrotik


  I have about 30 seconds to leave this, I'm going to pull every
 Mikrotik I have, that's about 30 radios and replace them with UBNIT.
 I'm sick and tired of spending all last night because two radios
just
 dropped their IP setting to 0.0.0.0 and the other MAC to
0.0.0.0, today
 another system storm crash, what stayed up, my two Ubiquiti
towers.  You
 can say what you want but I have daily outages, we never find
the cause
 and I'm sick of it... flame away I don't care I'm just sick of
Mikrotik.







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[WISPA] I'm pulling Mikrotik

2010-09-16 Thread Forbes Mercy
  I have about 30 seconds to leave this, I'm going to pull every 
Mikrotik I have, that's about 30 radios and replace them with UBNIT.  
I'm sick and tired of spending all last night because two radios just 
dropped their IP setting to 0.0.0.0 and the other MAC to 0.0.0.0, today 
another system storm crash, what stayed up, my two Ubiquiti towers.  You 
can say what you want but I have daily outages, we never find the cause 
and I'm sick of it... flame away I don't care I'm just sick of Mikrotik.





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Re: [WISPA] Tower Climb video

2010-09-15 Thread Forbes Mercy

 Very few videos make me nauseous, that one did.

On 9/15/2010 9:19 AM, DJ Anderson wrote:


You and me both Steve and I am not afraid of heights.

-DJ Anderson

Shelby Broadband

*From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Steve Barnes

*Sent:* Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:17 PM
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*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Tower Climb video

Makes my colon pucker just watching.

*Steve Barnes*

General Manager

PCS-WIN http://www.pcswin.com/

RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service http://www.rcwifi.com/

*From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Jerry Richardson

*Sent:* Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:37 AM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Tower Climb video

Makes my palms sweat just watching it

WTF isn't he tied off? What an idiot

- Jerry

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mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Justin Wilson

*Sent:* Wednesday, September 15, 2010 8:28 AM
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*Subject:* [WISPA] Tower Climb video

Mikrotik posted this on their Facebook post.  I don’t see the guy 
clipping off or a safety climb so don’t do as he does (unless I missed 
the safety portion).


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Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-13 Thread Forbes Mercy
From personal experience I can tell you that you will be very happy 
when you make the switch.  I just replaced three Mikrotik BH/AP units, 
pings went from their rather wild 30-120ms swings to a steady 15ms no 
matter what time.  Just be ready for three things, you can't put 
usernames in the ACL like Mikrotik, there is less routing because UBNT 
expects filtering to be done in your router before their equipment, and 
it will never go down because it's just a transparent bridge so traffic 
that would have overwhelmed Mikrotik equipment and crashed the LAN port 
won't happen on Ubiquity.  Oh and you're right, I've found that if you 
use dual-polarity you can't mix that with non-dual and connections with 
non-, its far better to have all Airmax running rather than a mix, this 
means replacing CPE so that all customers on that tower are the same 
equipment, spendy (relative to UBNT's low cost) but worth it.


Forbes Mercy
Washington Broadband

On 9/13/2010 10:31 AM, Steve Barnes wrote:


All my APs are Mikrotik. My CPE’s are a mix of Tranzeo and UBNT.   I 
have a AP with 58 Clients on it and starting to get complaints about 
slowdowns.  They are all setup 10 MHz channel 802.11g.  This is a 
tower that due to contractual issues I cannot add anymore equipment.  
So I am considering taking down the Mikrotik and 120 degree sector and 
putting up a UBNT Rocket and Airmax 120 sector.  It will take time to 
physically switch all my clients to new UBNT Airmax equipment but 
would like to get it done before the snow flies.


Has anyone down this?  Success?  I know I cannot turn on Airmax till 
everyone is on the UBNT with that capability but does it work fine 
till you get it on?


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Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

2010-09-13 Thread Forbes Mercy

Steve,

All of our 2.4 are Mikrotik and we're pretty happy with that but as you 
say past 50 it starts to get pretty ugly.  We added an M2 and put some 
dual polarity CPE out there, they worked great with it.  We turned 
Airmax off because we had a non-M2 UBNT radio that we wanted to connect, 
it took some work but by mounting it vertically but selecting horizontal 
it worked, on vertical it would connect but not pass traffic.  We 
haven't tried non-ubnt equipment like Engeinus yet but our assumption is 
we would actually mount the antenna horizontal and have the same result.


The optimal answer is to mount it right above your Mikrotik, pick a good 
separation frequency then move all your M2/M5 stuff over to it first for 
Airmax then make all your new installs with Airmax to it.  We've done 
this in transitioning towers over, now our UBNT M5 has more people on it 
than the original Mikrotik which has a comfortable 35 non-M 
subscribers.  Again, remember to turn on Firewall rules, consider 
bandwidth shaping and put in rules for icmp and block 255.255.255.255 
then it will give much of the same protections that you are used to on 
Mikrotik.


Forbes Mercy
Washington Broadband, Inc.

On 9/13/2010 11:30 AM, Steve Barnes wrote:


Forbes, so are you saying: if I change and go to a Rocket with Airmax 
dual pol antenna and I have a client with a UBNT Bullet M2 HP 
Connected to a Laird 24Dbi Grid Vertical only dish, that even though 
the Bullet has Airmax as part of it, it wont connect.  Or are you 
saying that all your clients need to be new with Airmax ability?


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General Manager

PCS-WIN http://www.pcswin.com/

RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service http://www.rcwifi.com/

*From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
*On Behalf Of *Forbes Mercy

*Sent:* Monday, September 13, 2010 2:11 PM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

From personal experience I can tell you that you will be very happy 
when you make the switch.  I just replaced three Mikrotik BH/AP units, 
pings went from their rather wild 30-120ms swings to a steady 15ms no 
matter what time.  Just be ready for three things, you can't put 
usernames in the ACL like Mikrotik, there is less routing because UBNT 
expects filtering to be done in your router before their equipment, 
and it will never go down because it's just a transparent bridge so 
traffic that would have overwhelmed Mikrotik equipment and crashed the 
LAN port won't happen on Ubiquity.  Oh and you're right, I've found 
that if you use dual-polarity you can't mix that with non-dual and 
connections with non-, its far better to have all Airmax running 
rather than a mix, this means replacing CPE so that all customers on 
that tower are the same equipment, spendy (relative to UBNT's low 
cost) but worth it.


Forbes Mercy
Washington Broadband

On 9/13/2010 10:31 AM, Steve Barnes wrote:

All my APs are Mikrotik. My CPE’s are a mix of Tranzeo and UBNT.   I 
have a AP with 58 Clients on it and starting to get complaints about 
slowdowns.  They are all setup 10 MHz channel 802.11g.  This is a 
tower that due to contractual issues I cannot add anymore equipment.  
So I am considering taking down the Mikrotik and 120 degree sector and 
putting up a UBNT Rocket and Airmax 120 sector.  It will take time to 
physically switch all my clients to new UBNT Airmax equipment but 
would like to get it done before the snow flies.


Has anyone down this?  Success?  I know I cannot turn on Airmax till 
everyone is on the UBNT with that capability but does it work fine 
till you get it on?


*Steve Barnes*

RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service http://www.rcwifi.com/

  
  
  
  


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[WISPA] Taking Mikrotik down

2010-09-13 Thread Forbes Mercy
Brett, I'm impressed with your knowledge of Mikrotik programming so I 
wanted to ask you this.  Last week and further back about four times a 
week we had a cascading crash of our bridged network whereas the LAN 
side of the Mikrotik Backhauls would crash presumably from traffic.  
Wireshark showed some anomalies such as IPv6 traffic, some ICMP sneaking 
through the filters, a random STP Cisco and some TCP flooding but really 
nothing that should take down so many radios, a simple reboot fixed the 
problem and it didn't happen again for a day to several days later.

Friday we changed out three Mikrotik backhauls and AP's with Ubiquity 
gear and upgraded our Bandwidth manager enhancing its rules as well.  
Today we're having the same attack as before but now it's not taking 
down the system, Our bandwidth monitor is pegged on incoming traffic and 
outgoing traffic at 176% of normal (we normally peak at 99% download 30% 
up) but no radio's are going down, our system latency at the affected 
tower is 300ms and we're getting intermittent down alarms.  Its great 
because we have the first chance to go customer by customer trying to 
find the source but I guess I'm asking if you have any ideas how to find 
or filter this problem?  We think the source is comin

Thanks,
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Re: [WISPA] direct bury pole?

2010-09-10 Thread Forbes Mercy
 I like wooden power poles a lot, their exactly my bucket truck height 
and are under $1000 buried, they don't need to be guy wired and they mix 
in with surroundings.  I go to Electrical companies to have them put 
in.  If you have a relationship with the power company they can help too.


Forbes

On 9/10/2010 7:37 AM, Kevin Owen wrote:


Other than a wooden utility pole, does anyone have a source for a 
direct bury steel pole, such as those you would see used for street 
lights, etc?  I have a need for a client to be up ~30' for a single 1' 
dish.  That will be the only thing ever on the pole, so it won't be 
loaded.  It can't be guyed, and they would prefer not Rohn or other 
lattice structure for aesthetics.  We have been asked to use something 
like a streetlight pole.  We have never used such a pole. Has anyone 
used one and do you have a source for the pole?


Kevin

First Step Internet, LLC





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Re: [WISPA] Moto BH Reset to Default

2010-09-09 Thread Forbes Mercy
  Patrick,

This unit has run seamlessly for over 5 years then dumped to default 
twice in a day.  I changed passwords again the second time and it hasn't 
happened yet, but that was just yesterday.  We had other network issues 
at the same time that may have contributed.  When we've had other issues 
we lost the two other Moto backhauls as well, the hazard of bridged 
networking.

Thanks,
Forbes

On 9/9/2010 7:15 AM, Patrick Shoemaker wrote:
 I don't see much of anything useful in there. Is there anything in
 common with the ones that have lost their config? Same site, same power
 supply, same manufacturing batch, etc?


 Patrick Shoemaker
 Vector Data Systems LLC
 shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com
 office: (301) 358-1690 x36
 http://www.vectordatasystems.com

 On 9/8/2010 10:22 PM, Forbes Mercy wrote:
 Patrick this is today's event log, no there's no sync, does this help?:

 
 00:00:00 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 874 **System Startup**
 00:00:01 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 879 Software Version :
 CANOPY4.2.1 Apr 16 2004 15:23:05 BH-DES
 00:00:01 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 883 Software Boot Version :
 CANOPYBOOT 1.0
 00:00:01 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 887 FPGA Version : 06240318
 00:00:01 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 891 FPGA Features : DES
 03:30:18 UT : 09/08/10 : File
 C:/ISIPPC/pssppc.250/bsps/devices/whisp/syslog.c : Line 1055 Time set
 17:47:59 UT : 09/08/10 : File httptask.c : Line 616 Reboot from Webpage.
 17:47:59 UT : 09/08/10 : File
 C:/ISIPPC/pssppc.250/bsps/devices/whisp/syslog.c : Line 1055 Time set
 17:47:59 UT : 09/08/10 : File
 C:/ISIPPC/pssppc.250/bsps/devices/whisp/syslog.c : Line 914 System Reset
 Exception -- External Hard Reset WatchDog Cur ExtInt 99 Max ExtInt 717
 Cur DecInt 68 Max DecInt 180 Cur Sync 0 Max Sync 47 Cur LED 0 Max LED 1
 Cur EthXcvr 0 Max EthXcvr 1 Cur FEC 6 Max FEC 328 Cur FPGA 93 Max FPGA
 488 Cur FrmLoc 0 Max FrmLoc 0 AAState 0
 17:47:59 UT : 09/08/10 : File root.c : Line 874 **System Startup**
 17:48:00 UT : 09/08/10 : File root.c : Line 879 Software Version :
 CANOPY4.2.1 Apr 16 2004 15:23:05 BH-DES
 17:48:00 UT : 09/08/10 : File root.c : Line 883 Software Boot Version :
 CANOPYBOOT 1.0
 17:48:00 UT : 09/08/10 : File root.c : Line 887 FPGA Version : 06240318
 17:48:00 UT : 09/08/10 : File root.c : Line 891 FPGA Features : DES
 00:00:00 UT : 01/01/00 : File
 C:/ISIPPC/pssppc.250/bsps/devices/whisp/syslog.c : Line 1055 Time set
 00:00:00 UT : 01/01/00 : File
 C:/ISIPPC/pssppc.250/bsps/devices/whisp/syslog.c : Line 914 System Reset
 Exception -- External Hard Reset
 00:00:00 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 874 **System Startup**
 00:00:01 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 879 Software Version :
 CANOPY4.2.1 Apr 16 2004 15:23:05 BH-DES
 00:00:01 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 883 Software Boot Version :
 CANOPYBOOT 1.0
 00:00:01 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 887 FPGA Version : 06240318
 00:00:01 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 891 FPGA Features : DES
 00:13:50 UT : 01/01/00 : File httptask.c : Line 616 Reboot from Webpage.
 00:10:34 UT : 01/01/00 : File
 C:/ISIPPC/pssppc.250/bsps/devices/whisp/syslog.c : Line 1055 Time set
 00:10:34 UT : 01/01/00 : File
 C:/ISIPPC/pssppc.250/bsps/devices/whisp/syslog.c : Line 914 System Reset
 Exception -- External Hard Reset WatchDog Cur ExtInt 0 Max ExtInt 66 Cur
 DecInt 60 Max DecInt 178 Cur Sync 0 Max Sync 65 Cur LED 0 Max LED 1 Cur
 EthXcvr 0 Max EthXcvr 1 Cur FEC 0 Max FEC 60 Cur FPGA 0 Max FPGA 61 Cur
 FrmLoc 0 Max FrmLoc 0 AAState 0
 00:10:34 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 874 **System Startup**
 00:10:35 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 879 Software Version :
 CANOPY4.2.1 Apr 16 2004 15:23:05 BH-DES
 00:10:35 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 883 Software Boot Version :
 CANOPYBOOT 1.0
 00:10:35 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 887 FPGA Version : 06240318
 00:10:35 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 891 FPGA Features : DES
 18:45:04 UT : 09/08/10 : File
 C:/ISIPPC/pssppc.250/bsps/devices/whisp/syslog.c : Line 1055 Time set
 18:56:43 UT : 09/08/10 : File httptask.c : Line 616 Reboot from Webpage.
 18:56:40 UT : 09/08/10 : File
 C:/ISIPPC/pssppc.250/bsps/devices/whisp/syslog.c : Line 1055 Time set
 18:56:40 UT : 09/08/10 : File
 C:/ISIPPC/pssppc.250/bsps/devices/whisp/syslog.c : Line 914 System Reset
 Exception -- External Hard Reset WatchDog Cur ExtInt 27 Max ExtInt 601
 Cur DecInt 52 Max DecInt 176 Cur Sync 0 Max Sync 34 Cur LED 0 Max LED 1
 Cur EthXcvr 0 Max EthXcvr 1 Cur FEC 4 Max FEC 267 Cur FPGA 23 Max FPGA
 405 Cur FrmLoc 0 Max FrmLoc 0 AAState 0
 18:56:40 UT : 09/08/10 : File root.c : Line 874 **System Startup**
 18:56:41 UT : 09/08/10 : File root.c : Line 879 Software Version :
 CANOPY4.2.1 Apr 16 2004 15:23:05 BH-DES
 18:56:41 UT : 09/08/10 : File root.c : Line 883 Software Boot Version

Re: [WISPA] Powerbridge M5 versus Nanobridge M5 ?

2010-09-09 Thread Forbes Mercy
  .. and duct tape

On 9/9/2010 9:41 AM, Chuck Profito wrote:
 Tupperware

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves
 Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 9:05 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Powerbridge M5 versus Nanobridge M5 ?

 Does anyone make a radome for the NB? I am thinking I have a unit or
 two that could use one due to back tilt or facing the predominate
 winter storm path. While I bet nothing would build up for long, it
 might be long enough to be a issue.

 On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Chuck Hoggch...@shelbybb.com  wrote:
 Sorry, wrong issue...
 Regards,

 Chuck


 On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Mike Hammettwispawirel...@ics-il.net
 wrote:
 Eje and Mike Ford both posted the differences between the two units and
 where to use them.

 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com


 On 9/9/2010 9:05 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote:

 I did not see a resolution, did I miss it?
 Regards,

 Chuck


 On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Mike Hammettwispawirel...@ics-il.net
 wrote:
   Just had this discussion on the UBNT list a day or two ago, complete
 with UBNT input.

 http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/ubnt_users/2010-September/thread.html


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 On 9/8/2010 10:52 PM, Francois Menard wrote:
 I fear winter coming, and I have a location where a nanobridge M5 was
 used ?

 Any experience with ice build-up on a nanobridge without a radome ?

 I suppose this is the main reason for choosing a power bridge M5 and
 paying the additional 200+$ per end.

 Opinion ?

 F.





 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Moto BH Reset to Default

2010-09-09 Thread Forbes Mercy
  Many thanks, I'll do that.

Forbes

On 9/9/2010 9:49 AM, Patrick Shoemaker wrote:
 I would make sure that the SNMP community string is set to something
 other than default, and disable write access if you're not using that
 functionality. I forget if it's enabled by default, but I think it is
 for Prizm.

 Also, might want to upgrade that software?

 Patrick Shoemaker
 Vector Data Systems LLC
 shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com
 office: (301) 358-1690 x36
 http://www.vectordatasystems.com

 On 9/9/2010 11:31 AM, Forbes Mercy wrote:
 Patrick,

 This unit has run seamlessly for over 5 years then dumped to default
 twice in a day.  I changed passwords again the second time and it hasn't
 happened yet, but that was just yesterday.  We had other network issues
 at the same time that may have contributed.  When we've had other issues
 we lost the two other Moto backhauls as well, the hazard of bridged
 networking.

 Thanks,
 Forbes

 On 9/9/2010 7:15 AM, Patrick Shoemaker wrote:
 I don't see much of anything useful in there. Is there anything in
 common with the ones that have lost their config? Same site, same power
 supply, same manufacturing batch, etc?


 Patrick Shoemaker
 Vector Data Systems LLC
 shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com
 office: (301) 358-1690 x36
 http://www.vectordatasystems.com

 On 9/8/2010 10:22 PM, Forbes Mercy wrote:
 Patrick this is today's event log, no there's no sync, does this help?:

 
 00:00:00 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 874 **System Startup**
 00:00:01 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 879 Software Version :
 CANOPY4.2.1 Apr 16 2004 15:23:05 BH-DES
 00:00:01 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 883 Software Boot Version :
 CANOPYBOOT 1.0
 00:00:01 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 887 FPGA Version : 06240318
 00:00:01 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 891 FPGA Features : DES
 03:30:18 UT : 09/08/10 : File
 C:/ISIPPC/pssppc.250/bsps/devices/whisp/syslog.c : Line 1055 Time set
 17:47:59 UT : 09/08/10 : File httptask.c : Line 616 Reboot from Webpage.
 17:47:59 UT : 09/08/10 : File
 C:/ISIPPC/pssppc.250/bsps/devices/whisp/syslog.c : Line 1055 Time set
 17:47:59 UT : 09/08/10 : File
 C:/ISIPPC/pssppc.250/bsps/devices/whisp/syslog.c : Line 914 System Reset
 Exception -- External Hard Reset WatchDog Cur ExtInt 99 Max ExtInt 717
 Cur DecInt 68 Max DecInt 180 Cur Sync 0 Max Sync 47 Cur LED 0 Max LED 1
 Cur EthXcvr 0 Max EthXcvr 1 Cur FEC 6 Max FEC 328 Cur FPGA 93 Max FPGA
 488 Cur FrmLoc 0 Max FrmLoc 0 AAState 0
 17:47:59 UT : 09/08/10 : File root.c : Line 874 **System Startup**
 17:48:00 UT : 09/08/10 : File root.c : Line 879 Software Version :
 CANOPY4.2.1 Apr 16 2004 15:23:05 BH-DES
 17:48:00 UT : 09/08/10 : File root.c : Line 883 Software Boot Version :
 CANOPYBOOT 1.0
 17:48:00 UT : 09/08/10 : File root.c : Line 887 FPGA Version : 06240318
 17:48:00 UT : 09/08/10 : File root.c : Line 891 FPGA Features : DES
 00:00:00 UT : 01/01/00 : File
 C:/ISIPPC/pssppc.250/bsps/devices/whisp/syslog.c : Line 1055 Time set
 00:00:00 UT : 01/01/00 : File
 C:/ISIPPC/pssppc.250/bsps/devices/whisp/syslog.c : Line 914 System Reset
 Exception -- External Hard Reset
 00:00:00 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 874 **System Startup**
 00:00:01 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 879 Software Version :
 CANOPY4.2.1 Apr 16 2004 15:23:05 BH-DES
 00:00:01 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 883 Software Boot Version :
 CANOPYBOOT 1.0
 00:00:01 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 887 FPGA Version : 06240318
 00:00:01 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 891 FPGA Features : DES
 00:13:50 UT : 01/01/00 : File httptask.c : Line 616 Reboot from Webpage.
 00:10:34 UT : 01/01/00 : File
 C:/ISIPPC/pssppc.250/bsps/devices/whisp/syslog.c : Line 1055 Time set
 00:10:34 UT : 01/01/00 : File
 C:/ISIPPC/pssppc.250/bsps/devices/whisp/syslog.c : Line 914 System Reset
 Exception -- External Hard Reset WatchDog Cur ExtInt 0 Max ExtInt 66 Cur
 DecInt 60 Max DecInt 178 Cur Sync 0 Max Sync 65 Cur LED 0 Max LED 1 Cur
 EthXcvr 0 Max EthXcvr 1 Cur FEC 0 Max FEC 60 Cur FPGA 0 Max FPGA 61 Cur
 FrmLoc 0 Max FrmLoc 0 AAState 0
 00:10:34 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 874 **System Startup**
 00:10:35 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 879 Software Version :
 CANOPY4.2.1 Apr 16 2004 15:23:05 BH-DES
 00:10:35 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 883 Software Boot Version :
 CANOPYBOOT 1.0
 00:10:35 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 887 FPGA Version : 06240318
 00:10:35 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 891 FPGA Features : DES
 18:45:04 UT : 09/08/10 : File
 C:/ISIPPC/pssppc.250/bsps/devices/whisp/syslog.c : Line 1055 Time set
 18:56:43 UT : 09/08/10 : File httptask.c : Line 616 Reboot from Webpage.
 18:56:40 UT : 09/08/10 : File
 C:/ISIPPC/pssppc.250/bsps/devices/whisp/syslog.c : Line 1055 Time set
 18:56:40 UT : 09/08/10 : File
 C:/ISIPPC/pssppc.250/bsps/devices/whisp

[WISPA] Moto BH Reset to Default

2010-09-08 Thread Forbes Mercy
This is the third Motorola backhaul where the remote end reset it's 
settings to default.  I've changed passwords and it did it again within 
an hour of leaving.  Any ideas?

Thanks,
Forbes Mercy
Washington Broadband, Inc.
forbes.me...@wabroadband.com



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Re: [WISPA] Moto BH Reset to Default

2010-09-08 Thread Forbes Mercy
 2004 15:23:05 BH-DES
20:55:43 UT : 09/08/10 : File root.c : Line 883 Software Boot Version : 
CANOPYBOOT 1.0
20:55:43 UT : 09/08/10 : File root.c : Line 887 FPGA Version : 06240318
20:55:43 UT : 09/08/10 : File root.c : Line 891 FPGA Features : DES
20:59:40 UT : 09/08/10 : File 
C:/ISIPPC/pssppc.250/bsps/devices/whisp/syslog.c : Line 1055 Time set
21:01:12 UT : 09/08/10 : File httptask.c : Line 616 Reboot from Webpage.
21:01:08 UT : 09/08/10 : File 
C:/ISIPPC/pssppc.250/bsps/devices/whisp/syslog.c : Line 1055 Time set
21:01:08 UT : 09/08/10 : File 
C:/ISIPPC/pssppc.250/bsps/devices/whisp/syslog.c : Line 914 System Reset 
Exception -- External Hard Reset WatchDog Cur ExtInt 33 Max ExtInt 264 
Cur DecInt 51 Max DecInt 290 Cur Sync 0 Max Sync 41 Cur LED 0 Max LED 1 
Cur EthXcvr 0 Max EthXcvr 1 Cur FEC 7 Max FEC 74 Cur FPGA 26 Max FPGA 
198 Cur FrmLoc 0 Max FrmLoc 0 AAState 0
21:01:08 UT : 09/08/10 : File root.c : Line 874 **System Startup**
21:01:09 UT : 09/08/10 : File root.c : Line 879 Software Version : 
CANOPY4.2.1 Apr 16 2004 15:23:05 BH-DES
21:01:09 UT : 09/08/10 : File root.c : Line 883 Software Boot Version : 
CANOPYBOOT 1.0
21:01:09 UT : 09/08/10 : File root.c : Line 887 FPGA Version : 06240318
21:01:09 UT : 09/08/10 : File root.c : Line 891 FPGA Features : DES
21:01:58 UT : 09/08/10 : File 
C:/ISIPPC/pssppc.250/bsps/devices/whisp/syslog.c : Line 1055 Time set
00:00:00 UT : 01/01/00 : File 
C:/ISIPPC/pssppc.250/bsps/devices/whisp/syslog.c : Line 1055 Time set
00:00:00 UT : 01/01/00 : File 
C:/ISIPPC/pssppc.250/bsps/devices/whisp/syslog.c : Line 914 System Reset 
Exception -- External Hard Reset
00:00:00 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 874 **System Startup**
00:00:01 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 879 Software Version : 
CANOPY4.2.1 Apr 16 2004 15:23:05 BH-DES
00:00:01 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 883 Software Boot Version : 
CANOPYBOOT 1.0
00:00:01 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 887 FPGA Version : 06240318
00:00:01 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 891 FPGA Features : DES
00:43:33 UT : 09/09/10 : File 
C:/ISIPPC/pssppc.250/bsps/devices/whisp/syslog.c : Line 1055 Time set

On 9/8/2010 5:56 PM, Patrick Shoemaker wrote:
Okay, if it is the PTP100/200 series, is the event log being preserved
 after the reset to defaults? Did you change just the user passwords or
 did you change the SNMP community string as well? Do you have anything
 plugged in to the timing port? What is the setting for the default plug
 action set to- reset to defaults or just bypass user login?

 If PTP400/500/600 series, the reset signal is sent over the power
 conductors feeding the ODU. It's feasible that a cable or PIDU problem
 could cause erroneous resets. But the same cable or PIDU problem on
 three separate radios would be unlikely.

 Patrick Shoemaker
 Vector Data Systems LLC
 shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com
 office: (301) 358-1690 x36
 http://www.vectordatasystems.com


 On 9/8/2010 8:44 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 The subject says BH as in BH10 or BH20...

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 Direct: 937-552-2343
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 On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Patrick Shoemaker
 shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com   wrote:
  
 PTP400/500/800 is a completely different platform than PTP100/200.

 Patrick Shoemaker
 Vector Data Systems LLC
 shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com
 office: (301) 358-1690 x36
 http://www.vectordatasystems.com

 On 9/8/2010 8:06 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 It's all the same hardware isn't it?

 On Sep 8, 2010 7:53 PM, Patrick Shoemaker
 shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com   wrote:

First it would help to know what model BH you have.

 Patrick Shoemaker
 Vector Data Systems LLC
 shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com
 office: (301) 358-1690 x36
 http://www.vectordatasystems.com


 On 9/8/2010 6:08 PM, Forbes Mercy wrote:

 This is the third Motorola backhaul where the remote en...
  
 
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[WISPA] My fun (kidding) weekend on call

2010-09-05 Thread Forbes Mercy




Thanks for the comments Butch, this has been a busy on-call weekend
with the bandwidth manager dropping twice (It actually shut the power
off on the server) and several Mikrotik towers refusing to come back up
until rebooted. To try to battle this I went to the WIKI for Mikrotik
and entered this string:

/ ip firewall filter
add chain=input connection-state=established comment="Accept
established connections"
add chain=input connection-state=related comment="Accept related
connections"
add chain=input connection-state=invalid action="" comment="Drop
invalid connections" 
add chain=input protocol=udp action="" comment="UDP" disabled=no 
add chain=input protocol=icmp limit=50/5s,2 comment="Allow limited
pings" 
add chain=input protocol=icmp action="" comment="Drop excess pings" 
add chain=input protocol=tcp dst-port=22 comment="SSH for secure shell"
add chain=input protocol=tcp dst-port=8291 comment="winbox" 
# End of Edit #
add chain=input action="" log-prefix="DROP INPUT" comment="Log
everything else"
add chain=input action="" comment="Drop everything else"

Immediately after implementing this WhatsUp indicated:

bandwdith manager 

HTTP(Down at least 5 min) 

So how can I protect my bandwidth manager and still monitor it at the
same time? I guess I could disable HTTP monitor and do pings on the
monitor software. 

Three more quick questions:
1) I didn't put in these lines because I wasn't sure what IP's to use,
same problem when I installed PRTG I'm not sure what IP's I need to
monitor within the system to watch:

# Edit these rules to reflect your actual IP addresses! # 
add chain=input src-address=159.148.172.192/28 comment="From Mikrotikls network" 
add chain=input src-address=10.0.0.0/8 comment="From our private LAN"
2) The "add chain=input action="" log-prefix="DROP
INPUT" comment="Log everything else"" command indicates there is a log
that I can watch foul traffic, where do I find that log?

3) Is there more sets of examples for firewalls for my Mikrotik routers
somewhere, I'm searching WIKI's right now.

Thanks for the help, hope your weekend is going well, I already have
logged 100 miles just chasing outages down in the last 12 hours.

Forbes

On 9/5/2010 10:39 AM, Butch Evans wrote:

  On Fri, 2010-09-03 at 14:15 -0700, Forbes Mercy wrote: 
  
  
I keep adding filters as traffic presents itself but help and 
training is very expensive and extraordinarily technical 

  
  
While I would disagree that training is "very expensive", I would have
to agree that it is very technical in nature.  My training sessions are
normally under $300/day for students (not counting
hotels/flights/etc.). 

  
  
On my backhauls 
when one Mikrotik goes down its not unusual for the foul traffic to 
permeate throughout (yes I'm bridged) the network and take down other 
Mikrotik's and often requires a drive to reboot then they work fine 
again, irritating, yes but still great equipment.

  
  
Training would be especially good if you could learn something that
would keep you from having to roll a truck even once every 2 weeks.  It
wouldn't take long to pay for that.

  
  
Ubiquiti is a monster for power and throughput, it's menus are basic 
but filters entry options are slim and limited to IP rather than by 
protocol so some things sneak through that wouldn't with Mikrotik.

  
  
This, unfortunately, is one "cost" of less expensive gear.  FWIW, you
have most of the same functionality available in both platforms, but
it's just not in the GUI for UBNT.

  
  
I promised an analogy so here goes, I feel from experience that Mikrotik 
is the Linux of equipment, you better know what you're doing when you 
buy it.  

  
  
UBNT is linux, too.  :-)

  
  
Ubiquiti is like Windows, pretty GUI driven, and simplified at a 
reasonable cost.

  
  
You have access to iptables and more in the ssh/telnet interface with
Ubiquiti.

  







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Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-03 Thread Forbes Mercy
I'll weigh in here, I have almost an equal mix of Ubiquiti and Mikrotik 
I'll detail each plus put a summary analogy for these and Motorola at 
the end of my email.  One of the things that jumps out on me is how raw 
Mikrotik is, if you want to be able to write every filter, detail every 
part of the packets, and throughput, it is a very robust piece of 
equipment.  I use it as my primary backhauls and about 70% of my AP's 
other than a few that shouldn't happen problems they perform 
admirably. I keep adding filters as traffic presents itself but help and 
training is very expensive and extraordinarily technical On my backhauls 
when one Mikrotik goes down its not unusual for the foul traffic to 
permeate throughout (yes I'm bridged) the network and take down other 
Mikrotik's and often requires a drive to reboot then they work fine 
again, irritating, yes but still great equipment.  I was 90% Mikrotik 
until Ubiquiti came along.

  Ubiquiti is a monster for power and throughput, it's menus are basic 
but filters entry options are slim and limited to IP rather than by 
protocol so some things sneak through that wouldn't with Mikrotik.  As a 
backhaul they do seem to ignore foul traffic so I'm assuming Ubiquiti 
entered a bunch of filters by default because these units just don't go 
down, ever.  Their user table as an AP is not very friendly, limited to 
MAC without a description line so we have to look everyone up by MAC 
now.  I have integrated Ubiquiti for all of my 5 Gig customer AP's and 
kept Mikrotik for 2.4 just because its not necessary to replace working 
radios.  The M format is amazing and has moved us up a notch in 
delivery capability, oh and it's cheap as hell so I can afford to deploy 
twice as fast as before.

I promised an analogy so here goes, I feel from experience that Mikrotik 
is the Linux of equipment, you better know what you're doing when you 
buy it.  Motorola is the Apple of equipment, do what they say and pay a 
ton and you'll get a near-flawless product that you have almost no 
control over, you just won't be able to deploy very fast due to the 
cost.  Ubiquiti is like Windows, pretty GUI driven, and simplified at a 
reasonable cost.

Forbes Mercy
President - Washington Broadband, Inc.
forbes.me...@wabroadband.com

On 9/3/2010 1:50 PM, Data Technology wrote:
I think that several of you are using Ubiquiti AirMax Rocket now
 instead of Mikrotik.

 I would like to know how they compare:
   1. As a point to point link.
   2. As an access point.

 Right now I only use Mikrotik for links and AP's and I use Ubiquiti for cpe.

 I am ready to install equipment on a new tower and was thinking about
 Using AirMax Rocket for AP to take avantage of MIMO.  I know Rocket will
 be cheaper but I don't know how they compare to a MT411AH as far as the
 amount of bandwidth and packets they can process.

 I am leaning towards  MT on the links and Rocket for AP.
 I am concerned about the plastic cases.  I really like having the boards
 in a metal enclosure so it can be grounded and shielded well.  I know I
 have had problems with lightening popping the ethernet port on the
 Ubiquiti units even when they are grounded.  With MT I can put ethernet
 surge protection in the enclosure.

 What are you guys seeing in the real world as the performance and
 reliability of Rockets?

 Any do and don'ts would be greatly appreciated here.

 Thanks and have a great Labor Day.

 LaRoy McCann
 Data Technology


 
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Re: [WISPA] Netbook/Mini for the field?

2010-09-02 Thread Forbes Mercy
I've been using Netbooks for half a year now, they are so much more 
handy to carry than a full-sized unit.  I have all the diagnostic tools 
I need on it, the screen is bright in the sun and it lasts the whole 
day, easily, on one charge.  My installer lost one and it was $300 to 
replace, not $5-800 like a full-sized one.  Since all they are is for 
diagnostics I don't need the power of a full-size laptop.  The Costco 
brands are not bad, I have a Samsung and it runs great.

Forbes Mercy
Washington Broadband, Inc.

On 9/2/2010 8:54 AM, Steven McGehee wrote:
Hey guys,

 We are looking to get a pair of new Laptop/Netbook computers for use in
 the field. These would be in for installs, dispatching, troubleshooting,
 speed testing, all of that general use stuff.

 We aren't looking for a lot -- just a GigE NIC, 10.1 or bigger screen
 (one that works well in the sun is a plus), Windows 7, 3-6 hour battery
 is fine, and 80GB or so of HDD is plenty. Right now we use Dell Latitude
 D-630s, but they're heavier and larger than we really need. We're
 thinking about a Dell 2100 or 2110 right now (which I need to verify has
 GigE).

 If you have a certain portable you like to use, I would be interested in
 hearing your recommendations.

 Thank you in advance!

 -Steven



 
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Re: [WISPA] Broadband work with Indian Reservation

2010-08-13 Thread Forbes Mercy

Travis,

I totally understand since 2003 I have tried to get on tribal hills and 
unless I piggyback on an existing tower all I can get is we want to do 
Internet ourselves, I check back in every two to three years, same 
thing.  I should feel lucky they haven't tried to ban us.


Forbes

On 8/13/2010 1:55 PM, Travis Johnson wrote:
The reservation in our area put an actual ordinance in effect that 
bans all outdoor antennas on any structure (including their homes, 
sheds, garages, barns, etc.). We still do installs there (along with 2 
or 3 other providers), but technically they could enforce it.


The reason? Because they are going to do their own internet, TV and 
VoIP solution... they have only been talking about it for almost 6+ 
years and have not installed a single piece of equipment. They have 
two nice water towers, and a nice tower up on a 500ft tall butte right 
in the middle of their area... but they won't allow ANYONE on any of 
it because they are going to do it.


This is the EXACT reason the tribes are SO FAR behind, and can't 
compete in the real world. They won't allow us to bring them 
technology that would help all their people. Instead they just built a 
huge new Tribal headquarters and are trying to get money to build a 
huge gambling casino.


Travis
Microserv

MDK wrote:
I tried to, but it fell through.They chose to spend a HUGE amount 
of money for Fiber to the curb and try to administer it themselves, 
rather than about 15% of the cost for me to bring in broadband and 
maintain it.   As far as I know, it has been a disaster, but they're 
now so invested in it they won't change.This is a very small 
reservation, and they only wanted to get broadband to the most 
densely populated part of it.   I may still end up putting in 
wireless to the remote parts, since lots of non-indians live out 
there.

++
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541-969-8200  509-386-4589
++

*From:* Rick Harnish mailto:rharn...@wispa.org
*Sent:* Friday, August 13, 2010 12:28 PM
*To:* memb...@wispa.org mailto:memb...@wispa.org ; 'WISPA General 
List' mailto:wireless@wispa.org ; motor...@afmug.com 
mailto:motor...@afmug.com

*Cc:* 'A Goldman' mailto:agold.wispal...@gmail.com
*Subject:* [WISPA] Broadband work with Indian Reservation

I will be attending a Strategy Meeting in New York later this month 
which is hosted by NABA (Native American Broadband Association and 
Intersections International).  Alex Goldman will be covering these 
meetings as well.  Between now and then, I would like to hear from 
WISPs across the country that may have worked with Indian tribes in 
the past or are presently working with them.  Part of Alex's articles 
will focus on how private ISPs are successfully working with the 
Indian Nation, however I would also like to hear the downside of 
anyone's experiences.  NABA has reached out to WISPA to develop 
alliances and collaboration, both on the lobbying front and the 
development of public/private partnerships so that many of the grants 
awarded to the Indian tribes will have a good local ISP partner to 
assist in the implementation of the projects.


If your ISP business is near a reservation, I would like to hear from 
you in the next week.


Respectfully,

*Rick Harnish*

Executive Director

WISPA

260-307-4000 cell

866-317-2851 WISPA Office

Skype: rick.harnish.

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Re: [WISPA] Broadband work with Indian Reservation

2010-08-13 Thread Forbes Mercy
Oh I don't blame them per se we all have a level of protectionism for 
what is ours, it's human nature.  They have an advantage and they use 
it, I know few CEO's that wouldn't.


On 8/13/2010 3:18 PM, Jack Unger wrote:
Gosh, I just do not understand how some native American peoples could 
feel so territorial. What's up with that???


Forbes Mercy wrote:

Travis,

I totally understand since 2003 I have tried to get on tribal hills 
and unless I piggyback on an existing tower all I can get is we want 
to do Internet ourselves, I check back in every two to three years, 
same thing.  I should feel lucky they haven't tried to ban us.


Forbes

On 8/13/2010 1:55 PM, Travis Johnson wrote:
The reservation in our area put an actual ordinance in effect that 
bans all outdoor antennas on any structure (including their homes, 
sheds, garages, barns, etc.). We still do installs there (along with 
2 or 3 other providers), but technically they could enforce it.


The reason? Because they are going to do their own internet, TV 
and VoIP solution... they have only been talking about it for almost 
6+ years and have not installed a single piece of equipment. They 
have two nice water towers, and a nice tower up on a 500ft tall 
butte right in the middle of their area... but they won't allow 
ANYONE on any of it because they are going to do it.


This is the EXACT reason the tribes are SO FAR behind, and can't 
compete in the real world. They won't allow us to bring them 
technology that would help all their people. Instead they just built 
a huge new Tribal headquarters and are trying to get money to build 
a huge gambling casino.


Travis
Microserv

MDK wrote:
I tried to, but it fell through.They chose to spend a HUGE 
amount of money for Fiber to the curb and try to administer it 
themselves, rather than about 15% of the cost for me to bring in 
broadband and maintain it.   As far as I know, it has been a 
disaster, but they're now so invested in it they won't change.
This is a very small reservation, and they only wanted to get 
broadband to the most densely populated part of it.   I may still 
end up putting in wireless to the remote parts, since lots of 
non-indians live out there.

++
Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy
541-969-8200  509-386-4589
++

*From:* Rick Harnish mailto:rharn...@wispa.org
*Sent:* Friday, August 13, 2010 12:28 PM
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mailto:motor...@afmug.com

*Cc:* 'A Goldman' mailto:agold.wispal...@gmail.com
*Subject:* [WISPA] Broadband work with Indian Reservation

I will be attending a Strategy Meeting in New York later this month 
which is hosted by NABA (Native American Broadband Association and 
Intersections International).  Alex Goldman will be covering these 
meetings as well.  Between now and then, I would like to hear from 
WISPs across the country that may have worked with Indian tribes in 
the past or are presently working with them.  Part of Alex's 
articles will focus on how private ISPs are successfully working 
with the Indian Nation, however I would also like to hear the 
downside of anyone's experiences.  NABA has reached out to WISPA to 
develop alliances and collaboration, both on the lobbying front and 
the development of public/private partnerships so that many of the 
grants awarded to the Indian tribes will have a good local ISP 
partner to assist in the implementation of the projects.


If your ISP business is near a reservation, I would like to hear 
from you in the next week.


Respectfully,

*Rick Harnish*

Executive Director

WISPA

260-307-4000 cell

866-317-2851 WISPA Office

Skype: rick.harnish.

rharn...@wispa.org





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[WISPA] MT question

2010-08-10 Thread Forbes Mercy
You're basic 433 with an SR2, Winbox sees both but the R isn't by the 
SR2.  We checked bridge then port and they're all set up right, there is 
the hash mark next to the SR2 but they won't bridge traffic, no one 
registers and field tests don't detect the radio.  So is it the board or 
the SR2?

Thanks,
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Re: [WISPA] MT question

2010-08-10 Thread Forbes Mercy
AP and no WDS

On 8/10/2010 11:25 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 Is it a station or AP?

 Do you have WDS enabled?

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 forbes.me...@wabroadband.com  wrote:

 You're basic 433 with an SR2, Winbox sees both but the R isn't by the
 SR2.  We checked bridge then port and they're all set up right, there is
 the hash mark next to the SR2 but they won't bridge traffic, no one
 registers and field tests don't detect the radio.  So is it the board or
 the SR2?

 Thanks,
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