Re: [WISPA] Internet Coverage in Charlotte, MI
What is the address? May be able to help. Jason On Friday, August 12, 2016 7:23 PM, "Troy Gibson, Byhalia.net"wrote: I am looking for a WISP in Charlottle, MI area. This is a city south of Lansing, MI. Have a person searching for service. Thank you, Troy Byhalia.net, LLC Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] 2dbi vs 3dbi vs 5 dbi vs 100mw vs 400mw
Higher gain,lower power works best,in almost any situation. On Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:15 PM, Colton Conor colton.co...@gmail.com wrote: We are comparing multiple SOHO routers and modems that have the same Broadcom chipsets. All of them have 802.11N 2x2 configuration. The only differences between them are if they have internal or external antennas and the gain of the antennas (either 2, 3, or 5dbi ratings). In addition, some sell a high powered wifi radio (400mw) while others have the basic (100mw). How much a difference does each of these hardware features make in overall wifi performance? ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Mimosa Networks New product released
I still can't find it either? Anyone else find the pricing? On Tuesday, August 5, 2014 1:23 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: where is price on this? cant find it on website Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Aug 5, 2014, at 9:10 AM, Jaime Fink ja...@mimosa.co wrote: Joe Adair Pricing details will be officially released in our press release at 8am PST, on our website www.mimosa.co, and products on display at the Streakwave Building Bridges event in San Francisco starting tomorrow. 2 more hours guys! Cheers! Jaime Fink • Mimosa • Chief Product Officer 300 Orchard City Dr Ste 100 • Campbell • CA 95008 • www.mimosa.co This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review, use, distribution or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive for the recipient), please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message. On Aug 5, 2014, at 5:59 AM, Adair Winter ada...@amarillowireless.net wrote: What's something like this going to cost? Or is that still a highly guarded secret? :) On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 7:49 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: http://www.mimosa.co/home/b5-page.html Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Adair Winter VP of Network Operations / Owner Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 C: 806.231.7180 http://www.amarillowireless.net ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Google luring Business Market with Wifi gear?
I've had 2 lines with Republic since the early beta. Upgraded them to Moto-X's and couldn't be happier! On Friday, May 23, 2014 7:16 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: They've been doing this for a couple years now. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: TJ Trout t...@pcguys.us To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 12:58:49 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google luring Business Market with Wifi gear? I've been wonding when this would happen, hopefully this will go main stream, I don't know why it hasn't already. All networks are suffering and wifi offload seems like an answer. I want to be able to make calls like I'm on network but when I only have wifi coverage. On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 7:57 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: https://republicwireless.com/ Sprint MVNO with WiFi - cellular handoffs. Also tried to resell\white-label and they weren't ready for that either. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 6:24:06 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google luring Business Market with Wifi gear? What bandwidth.com do? I don’t seem to grasp the whole deal… Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, May 22, 2014 at 6:46 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google luring Business Market with Wifi gear? *nods* I reached out to the guys that Bandwidth.com started up, but they said they were too early in the business to worry about stuff like that. Hotspot 2.0 (according to the hype) could be nice for us - doing last mile to the WiFi networks. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 12:17:30 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google luring Business Market with Wifi gear? I think this is something Wispa could/should manage as part of WISPA strategic/business development area Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, May 22, 2014 at 12:29 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google luring Business Market with Wifi gear? The future is going to be interesting for sure. A few questions come to mind. Is there a business model where WISP’s can partner with a Google or Microsoft to help advance our offerings or would you be just selling your soul to Satan. How do you compete against that level of investment if they start putting up hotspots to offload from the LTE networks in your area since that will most likely destroy 2.4 and 5.7-8 bands. Steve Barnes General Manager PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. From:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 12:19 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Google luring Business Market with Wifi gear? http://gigaom.com/2014/05/21/google-reportedly-plans-to-target-businesses-with-wi-fi/? Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] pay per use billing
We have many seasonals. We decided to give them two options. Annual payment,providing a one month discount. The most popular is our seasonal plan. We bill from the day they return and call for service to be restored till November 15. We send an invoice for the total.Keeps it simple for us. We wait till about Dec.1st and shut all seasonals off. No maintenance fees.No complaints. On Wednesday, May 7, 2014 12:00 AM, wi...@mncomm.com wi...@mncomm.com wrote: Possibly. We just recently got into hot spot last year at some state camp grounds. I might be a little grey in that area. We just set up a tower at a resort site where people have their fishing trailers, but they are willing to pay our full monthly and auto suspend when the weather gets cold From: ralph Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2014 4:28 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] pay per use billing ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] FS: RocketDish + Rocket M2s
Blair,I think Chris is in Hemlock. On Sunday, April 6, 2014 2:41 PM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote: I'm wondering where the seller is... If in the mid-west, I'm interested... -- On 4/6/2014 2:22 PM, ~NGL~ wrote: My mistake I thought I was answering the seller NGL From: Blair Davis Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 11:09 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FS: RocketDish + Rocket M2s Where are you/they? -- On 4/4/2014 9:36 AM, Chris Fabien wrote: I have a surplus of Ubiquiti RD-2G24 2ft dishes with Rocket M2s attached. Used working pulls. $150ea or quantity discount, plus shipping. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- West Michigan Wireless ISP Allegan, Michigan 49010 269-686-8648 A Division of: Camp Communication Services, INC ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- West Michigan Wireless ISP Allegan, Michigan 49010 269-686-8648 A Division of: Camp Communication Services, INC ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Light Duty self-support
Chris,check out Universal,they build them here in Michigan. We have a few of them. Great solution and price! http://www.universaltowers.com/products.html On Thursday, March 27, 2014 10:49 AM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: We have a few Tycon towers like that. They are great if you have a bucket truck. I feel like I'm climbing on tinfoil once I get near the top. Pretty sketchy... On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 8:35 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Rohn does a self supporter right around 100 feet. Customer did it himself a while back. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 27, 2014 9:32 AM, Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com wrote: Who is your first call for an economical self support tower for a customer to clear trees? We typically build guyed Rohn 25 towers but this customer doesn't want guy wires. Needs to be 100ft and enough wind load to hold a small repeater site, maybe 10 sqft. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Level 3
Are we the only ones getting beaten up right now? We can only get random pings through. We peer in at Chicago. Seems the buck stops there..Support seems overwhelmed. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Level 3
We are re-routed onto our Sprint fiber path and things are good. Level 3 seems to be the target as we have been seeing lately. Thank the good lord for bgp. On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 12:41 AM, Jason Bailey j284...@yahoo.com wrote: Are we the only ones getting beaten up right now? We can only get random pings through. We peer in at Chicago. Seems the buck stops there..Support seems overwhelmed. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Net Hatchet ethernet interface appliance
Good find. I have never used these,but I am going to order one and give it a try. On Monday, February 10, 2014 1:28 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: Anyone used one of these to monitor a solar battery setup? Any comments? Thanx NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher.And if it's in English Thank A Soldier!___Wireless mailing listWireless@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?
Chuck has it right. See below. 33. Antenna Gain. Under Section 15.247, the assumed antenna gain is 6 dBi, with a 1 dB reduction in power required for every 1 dB that the antenna gain exceeds 6 dBi. For fixed point-to-point systems, no power reduction is required. Section 15.407 assumes the same antenna gain of 6 dBi, with 1 dB reduction in power required for every 1 dB that gain exceeds 6 dBi. For fixed point-to-point systems, a 1 dB reduction in power is required for every 1 dB that gain exceeds 23 dBi. The only difference between the two rule parts is the maximum antenna gain that can be deployed without a penalty in transmitter power. We propose to apply the more stringent 23 dBi maximum antenna gain that is currently required under Section 15.407. We believe that using the more stringent antenna gain requirement will ensure that there is no increase in the potential for interference from unlicensed devices operating under the new combined rule parts. On Saturday, February 8, 2014 7:32 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: Revision of Part 15 of the Commission’s Rules to Permit Unlicensed National Information Infrastructure (U-NII) Devices in the 5 GHz band, ET Docket No. 13-49. Regards, Chuck On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 7:11 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: Yeah, I'd let someone official provide something. I wouldn't want to try to discern public information from internal information. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2014 6:03:50 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies? Chuck, Do you have a link or any information to what the FCC is specifically discussing? Sent from my iPad On Feb 8, 2014, at 18:48, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: People running on those TDWR frequencies like that without proper configuration are ruining the Unlimited Gain Antenna rule in the 5.8GHz band. It is before the FCC right now and WISPA just held a manufacturer's webinar about it. Every dish 2'+ would be affected, and would not be allowed any longer. No more 20-30 Mile 5GHz links. I truly hope you are not running your equipment inappropriately. Ubiquiti already has DFS certified gear, they are VERY familiar with the process, and they typically produce DFS options on their 5GHz platform. Regards, Chuck On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com wrote: The new NanoBeams will support DFS, they are just pending approval. Compliance Test - do you really want to go down that road? So what you just said, in a public forum, is that 40% of your radios are running illegally on frequencies they are not authorized to be on. Please pack up and go home. Sent from my iPad On Jan 31, 2014, at 11:29, Art Stephens asteph...@ptera.com wrote: Recent events make me wonder if the FCC is trying to muscle wisps out of these frequencies. Since we are primarily Ubiquiti equipment I can only speak from that platform. First the latest firmware update removes compliance test which for about 40% of our equipment deployed would render them unusable since 5735 - 5840 runs at - 50dBm or higher noise levels in our area, Second is new product released only supports 5735 - 5840. Seems like DFS is such a pain that manufacturers do not want to mess with it. Case in point the new NanoBeam M series only support 5725-5850 for USA. Worldwide version which we are not allowed to buy or deploy supports 5170-5875. Seems the only alternative is to go with licensed P2MP which makes more money for the FCC and drives the cost of wireless internet up for both wisps and consumers. -- Arthur Stephens Senior Networking Technician Ptera Inc. PO Box 135 24001 E Mission Suite 50 Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-927-7837 ptera.com facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera - This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not intended to represent those of the company. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Solution to Regulate Video Streaming?
We use Cisco/Meraki mx series routers. They have all the toys and give you a good view of your users and usage patterns. https://meraki.cisco.com/products/appliances On Thursday, January 2, 2014 2:44 PM, timothy steele timothy.pct...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone still using NETEQ these days? — Sent from Mailbox for iPhone On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net wrote: yep, normally we just look at large connections and limit overall bandwidth, the best way is still to bill per bit once over.. All of that would require intergration into a billing system, or a billing system that does it already :) Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Author of Learn RouterOS- Second Edition Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net - Skype: linktechs -- Create Wireless Coverage's with www.towercoverage.com - 900Mhz - LTE - 3G - 3.65 - TV Whitespace -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Jenkins Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 1:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Solution to Regulate Video Streaming? And keep up with it on a daily basis as each video streaming company makes changes. On 01/02/2014 11:15 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: or a lot of time developing regexs and other things needed for Mikrotik or various other routing\firewall engines. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- -- *From: *Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.net *To: *joey craig joey.cr...@firenet1.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Sent: *Thursday, January 2, 2014 1:00:49 PM *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Solution to Regulate Video Streaming? To regulate a specific application (Video Streaming) you will need a product like Procera. On 12/31/2013 10:55 AM, Joey Craig wrote: My employer is looking for a solution to monitor, regulate and bill for video streaming to the customer if he/she goes over a predetermined amount per month. Whether this is done by an add-on appliance, software on a server or an added feature in a radius server, etc. Does anyone know of such a solution? Joey Craig Firenet1.Com Phone: (662) 510-0764 Mobile: (662) 404-1118 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Cambium ePMP1000 question about sync
The base-station radios each have a built in gps rec. with an included gps antenna. No extra hardware. Yes,you can do abab frequencies. On Saturday, November 9, 2013 12:05 AM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: I'm not familiar with cambiums new product or how their sync works so I have a question. If I purchase 4 APs with sectors that supports GPS sync... Do I have everything I need to utilize the sync feature between APs or is there additional hardware or accessories that I'd have to purchase to use the sync? What are the sync options? N S AP on freq 5780 and E W AP on 5830 for instance? Or will it support all APs even on one freq? Basic questions but I have not been able to find the answers on their online info. Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti radios failing?
Do a little searching on the UBNT forums. There were a few batches of the AirGrid HP's that had this issue. I installed about ten of them. I then replaced 10 of them with grid/bullets and scrapped them. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 1:55 PM, Paolo Di Francesco paolo.difrance...@level7.it wrote: dear all lately we are having some strange issues with some airgrids. We see that: 1) the signal on some radios is droppiing around 10dbi 2) it works in one direction but not the other (eg. tx=ok but rx not working) Is that happening to you too? Regards -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo C.F. e P.IVA 05940050825 Fax : +39-091-8772072 assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432 web: http://www.level7.it ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Strange problem with Canopy 9000APC
Antenna has a dead short. Just a guess. --- On Thu, 6/13/13, David Hannum d.han...@newerabroadband.com wrote: From: David Hannum d.han...@newerabroadband.com Subject: [WISPA] Strange problem with Canopy 9000APC To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, June 13, 2013, 7:43 AM We're having an issue with a 9000APC that is very strange. Here is the situation. We have a remote water tank (stand pipe 75' high) that has a few homes around it. So, we have a 9000APC and a connectorized 2450AP on the tower, both on Omni's. The antennas are on a stand almost exactly 4' apart. There are six subs on the 900MHz radio. About a month ago, I had an issue where (after about 9 months) the signal to all of the customers just faded out, to the point that only two subs were still good. I swapped the antenna and that did not help. I swapped the radio, and that fixed the problem. Trouble is, it only lasted about three weeks, and the same thing happened again. I swapped the radio again yesterday, and today, I'm back in the same boat. The radio in the AP keeps going out. I had the climbers check the grounding, and we actually ran a dedicated ground yesterday off the water tank. My knee jerk feeling today is that maybe the radios are too close together, and the 2450 is burning up the 900. Could this be the case? Any ideas? Here is an example of what happens. Customers that run signals -47 to -57 become -70 to -75 and those who's signals were -70 and up fall clear off. Swap the radio, and everything goes back to normal. This is now three radios that have gone, each lasting a much shorter time than the previous. (this one did not make it 24 hours). I can't completely rule out lightning - the tower is in a very wooded area. But usually you burn up the NIC in that case - not weaken the radio. Thoughts? Dave HannumNew Era Broadband -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Strange problem with Canopy 9000APC
That's why I said antenna. It happened frequently after changing the antenna. --- On Thu, 6/13/13, David Hannum oujas...@gmail.com wrote: From: David Hannum oujas...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Strange problem with Canopy 9000APC To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, June 13, 2013, 10:01 AM Moisture is not an issue. Good drip loops on both the antenna cable and CAT-5 Cables. We actually sealed the entry of the radio with mastic to be sure. The first radio lasted about 10 months. When it went, we first swapped antennas, thinking maybe a lightning strike damaged it (we've had the same effect on signal from bad antenna). That did nothing to help, so we next swapped the radio. Signal back. That lasted about four weeks. Swapped radio again, and signal back. Lasted about 12 hours this time. No visible damage to any of the radios. No moisture found inside. We don't have capability to test in-house. Will send to SWG or Wireless Units to have them take a look. Dave Hannum New Era Broadband On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com wrote: On 6/13/2013 7:43 AM, David Hannum wrote: We're having an issue with a 9000APC that is very strange. Here is the situation. We have a remote water tank (stand pipe 75' high) that has a few homes around it. So, we have a 9000APC and a connectorized 2450AP on the tower, both on Omni's. The antennas are on a stand almost exactly 4' apart. There are six subs on the 900MHz radio. About a month ago, I had an issue where (after about 9 months) the signal to all of the customers just faded out, to the point that only two subs were still good. I swapped the antenna and that did not help. I swapped the radio, and that fixed the problem. Trouble is, it only lasted about three weeks, and the same thing happened again. I swapped the radio again yesterday, and today, I'm back in the same boat. The radio in the AP keeps going out. I had the climbers check the grounding, and we actually ran a dedicated ground yesterday off the water tank. My knee jerk feeling today is that maybe the radios are too close together, and the 2450 is burning up the 900. Could this be the case? Any ideas? Here is an example of what happens. Customers that run signals -47 to -57 become -70 to -75 and those who's signals were -70 and up fall clear off. Swap the radio, and everything goes back to normal. This is now three radios that have gone, each lasting a much shorter time than the previous. (this one did not make it 24 hours). I can't completely rule out lightning - the tower is in a very wooded area. But usually you burn up the NIC in that case - not weaken the radio. Thoughts? Interesting mystery! Clearly you don't want to blow more radios this way. Any more clues about what may have happened right before the failures? I'm wondering about weather events. Did it fail after a rain storm? Water coming in to the radio or corroding the antenna connectors might result. And if the antenna's connector is flaky, re-attaching it to a new radio might be a temporary fix, but reattaching it to an old radio might fix it too (temporariy). Have you examined the broken radios in the shop? -- Fred R. Goldstein fred at interisle.net Interisle Consulting Group +1 617 795 2701 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] As if the spectrum wasn't trashed already.
http://gigaom.com/2013/03/27/santa-clara-launches-free-outdoor-wi-fi-on-backs-of-smart-meters/___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Challenge to PMP manufacturers!
If they worked,- the 900 and adding 3.65 I would buy a whole bunch of them! --- On Sat, 2/9/13, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net Subject: Re: [WISPA] Challenge to PMP manufacturers! To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Saturday, February 9, 2013, 6:53 PM What's the status of this antenna? Any plans for 3.65 GHz support? What are the azimuth\elevation beamwidths? Any consideration for noise between radios in the same antenna enclosure (ie: Ubiquiti 3.65 hearing a 5 GHz radio too loudly? Any consideration for noise between radios in other antenna enclosures? Does anyone else make antennas like this? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Pedro Ramirez wi...@itelite.net To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2012 2:06:51 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Challenge to PMP manufacturers! Hi Gino, I wonder if our new 3 in 1 Sector Antenna design will be useful in this application that you mention here. We are designing this to save space and lower tower costs and we can fit different frequencies, gains polarization. We will also be able to mix Sector and Panel antennas in the same enclosure. Our first standard model will be 3 Sectors: 900Mhz 11dBi Dual, 2.4GHz 15dBi Dual 5GHz 18dBi Dual. We would really like some input on what combinations of antennas would be more useful for different markets. Pedro Ramirez Itelite Antennas, Inc On 01-Nov-12 11:14 AM, Gino Villarini wrote: I would like to see a Multiband Mimo PMP System similar to what is being developed in the LTE-Advanced RF protocol, where a BaseStation can use various spectrum bands to talk to CPEs… Imaging having an AP with multiple RF Sections using 2.4,3.x,5.x and aggregate all bands in a single Layer 1 medium to the CPE…also could split the downlink/uplink in various bands…youll need sync, plus some special sauce to organize Spectrum availability and Identify external interference.. but all that could be achieve out of the AP in a Cloud controller… So whos the taker? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] DirecTv On-Demand
Is it just me,or is everyone being bombarded with constant traffic from the new Genie system they are heavily pushing? I'm seeing a ton of traffic from these things on port 80.___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Revised - Bullet in Station WDS
Yes,both ubnt devices need to be in wds mode for the bridge to be layer 2 transparent.--- On Thu, 1/3/13, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote:From: ~NGL~ n...@ngl.netSubject: [WISPA] Revised - Bullet in Station WDSTo: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.orgDate: Thursday, January 3, 2013, 11:43 AM Do both tht Access Point and the Station have to be WDS node to have the station in level 2. I need this station to communicate with a Tranzeo 902 Access Point when hard wired togeather. In Station Mode only the 802 does not have a DHCP source. Thanx NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher.And if it's in English Thank A Soldier! ___ -Inline Attachment Follows-___Wireless mailing listWireless@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Has Anyone seen this on 3.65
Do you have 5gig stuff co-located at the site? --- On Fri, 10/5/12, Eric Muehleisen ericm...@gmail.com wrote: From: Eric Muehleisen ericm...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Has Anyone seen this on 3.65 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Friday, October 5, 2012, 5:28 PM That sounds about right. Noise at -55 is awfully loud. They'd need to be right on top of you. -Eric On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Michael Geary mge...@greataukwireless.com wrote: Good Evening Christian, This had happened on some our APs. We had to replace them because of manufacturers defect that our AP cards were bleeding There is a pretty lengthy post on Ubiquiti's forums as well http://forum.ubnt.com/showthread.php?t=33880 -- Michael Geary GAW High-Speed Internet 72 Shaker Rd. Enfield, CT 06082 www.GAW.com Office: 877.543.8429 Direct: 413.203.4911Cell: 413.218.1446 Fax: 877.816.7068 net...@gaw.com -- “The information contained in this email message may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient any use, distribution, disclosure or copying of this information is prohibited. If you receive this email in error, please tell us by return email and destroy this communication and any attachments from your system. On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Christian Palecek christ...@cybernet1.com wrote: We started having some issues with one of our ubiquiti 3.65 AP’s. Everything has been working great for a while but recently it runs horrible. Lot’s of packet loss and plenty of speed complaints. I ran a spectrum analysis from the AP itself and another we have on another tower about 10 miles WNW. We use serveral different types of 3.65 equipment, but this is the first time we have had issues with any of them. Everything is registered. Everything looked clean on the spectrum views before but now, not so much. Spectrum views attached. FromCor.png is the affected access point. -Christian Palecek Network AdministratorCybernet1, Inc. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Speed test volunteers anyone?
Looks good here in Michigan. I tested against 3 others locally and results look comparable. --- On Thu, 8/30/12, Ralph ralphli...@bsrg.org wrote: From: Ralph ralphli...@bsrg.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speed test volunteers anyone? To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, August 30, 2012, 7:07 PM Oops again. Sorry, I changed the text of the link but not the link. http://brightlan.net/page26.html From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ralph Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 7:04 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speed test volunteers anyone? Duh. Sorry.http://brightlan.net/page26.html From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ralph Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 6:56 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Speed test volunteers anyone? I have just finished installing Speedtest Mini in our data center and I would like some help testing it.If you have a “big pipe”, it would be especially helpful to have your feedback. Thanks very much RalphBrightlan.net -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] What's this 900mhz Interference look like?
Chris,I am a ham and wisp down in Jackson. I know all to well what this is. ATV amateur television. I see it on mine as well. A friend operates an amateur tv repeater on 910.250 near Lansing and the band is OPEN lately. I was just changing frequencies to get around it this morning. Hit me off-list and I can give you more info if you like. Jason --- On Sat, 8/25/12, Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com wrote: From: Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com Subject: [WISPA] What's this 900mhz Interference look like? To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Saturday, August 25, 2012, 10:16 AM I've got an interference problem affecting two of my 900mhz towers. Attached is a Airview scan of what I'm seeing, the 910mhz signal is the concern. It is intermittent, usually occurring in the early to mid morning for a few minutes or up to hours. My first thought is baby monitor/cordless phone but I'm seeing it on the south facing sector of two towers, separated by 3 miles north-south distance. The south tower sees it at around a -60 and the north tower around a -70. These are 100-120ft towers in a heavily wooded area, I would not expect ground-level interference to be visible from both, right?. So, any suggestions as to possible sources? Driving around with an antenna is my next step, but hard to do on an intermittent signal. -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] FCC broadband deployment report
My coverage update for the 2nd to last round is not there,but the rest is. The map is for 3Meg svc. and up also. --- On Thu, 8/23/12, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote: From: Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us Subject: [WISPA] FCC broadband deployment report To: wireless@wispa.org, a...@afmug.com, us...@wug.cc, color...@wispa.org Date: Thursday, August 23, 2012, 5:28 PM Hi all, Sorry for all the cross posts on multiple lists but this seems troubling to me. We submitted our coverage data to the state of Colorado and they submitted our data for the national map. However, this FCC broadband deployment report includes this map which doesn't show our coverage. Report: http://www.fcc.gov/reports/eighth-broadband-progress-report Map: http://www.fcc.gov/maps/section-706-fixed-broadband-deployment-map What gives??? WISPA??? Is anyone else noticing their coverage area is not included? Best regards, Sean Heskett ZIRKEL Wireless High-speed Internet www.zirkelwireless.com 970-871-8500 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] FCC broadband deployment report
Thanks Rick! --- On Thu, 8/23/12, Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org wrote: From: Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC broadband deployment report To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org, a...@afmug.com, us...@wug.cc, color...@wispa.org Date: Thursday, August 23, 2012, 6:18 PM Andrew, (Andrew MacRae from the NTIA is BCC’d) There seems to be some discrepancy in the Colorado and Michigan Data. Can you assist as to why Wisp coverage is not represented? Please read the email below my signature line. Also, here are some other comments from other providers. · Merrill, MI: Our coverage area is not displayed on that map. Is it only including wireline providers? · Jackson, MI: My coverage update for the 2nd to last round is not there, but the rest is. The map is for 3Meg svc. and up also. · Steamboat Springs: If you hover over a county a popup chart on the right shows up and displays the demographics for that county and % of broadband that is Fiber, Cable, DSL, or fixed wireless. both the counties we serve show 0% fixed wireless. · Yuma: wow, they have my area as covered as NON-Rural DSL and Cable no wireless links at all..I think someone fixed the books on this info. As its completely BS.. 1. everything out here in our area is Rural..2. No wireless listed at ALL ( there are 2 providers ourselves and the telco to the south of us) 3. The local cable company has only a handful of customers 4. says that over 3500 folks in my county have NO internet.. Complete and total BS.. This is farm country and I'd PAY to find more than 50 homes that don't have internet. Again.. the books have been cooked, thanks to either bad info or competition. Where there is a Wisp, there is a way! Respectfully, Rick HarnishExecutive DirectorWISPA260-307-4000 cell866-317-2851 Option 2 WISPA OfficeSkype: rick.harnish.rharnish@wispa.orgadm...@wispa.org (Trina and Rick) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 5:29 PM To: wireless@wispa.org; a...@afmug.com; us...@wug.cc; color...@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] FCC broadband deployment report Hi all, Sorry for all the cross posts on multiple lists but this seems troubling to me. We submitted our coverage data to the state of Colorado and they submitted our data for the national map. However, this FCC broadband deployment report includes this map which doesn't show our coverage. Report: http://www.fcc.gov/reports/eighth-broadband-progress-report Map: http://www.fcc.gov/maps/section-706-fixed-broadband-deployment-map What gives??? WISPA??? Is anyone else noticing their coverage area is not included? Best regards, Sean Heskett ZIRKEL Wireless High-speed Internet www.zirkelwireless.com 970-871-8500 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Picostation 2HP Question
What was the previous ap? --- On Tue, 8/7/12, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: From: Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Picostation 2HP Question To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tuesday, August 7, 2012, 6:58 PM OK Quick question Have a unit new out of the box will not connect to any subs. Set up as an AP, 20 Mhz channel, 2.4 Ghz channel 1. What am I missing??? Any input is appreciated. -B- ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Digital Loggers
Never thought I could laugh so hard at 7 am on Saturday! --- On Fri, 8/3/12, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net Subject: [WISPA] Digital Loggers To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Friday, August 3, 2012, 10:38 PM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xgyQy7TG_Yfeature=youtube_gdata_player - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] 4g?
http://www.mlive.com/business/index.ssf/2012/05/new_rural_internet_option_veri.html Nice___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] 4g?
Actually: $60 a month for 10 gigabytes. • $90 a month for 20 gigabytes. • $120 a month for 30 gigabytes. --- On Wed, 5/23/12, Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net wrote: From: Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net Subject: Re: [WISPA] 4g? To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2012, 5:50 PM Data plans: $50 for 5 GB, $80 for 10 GB. $10 extra per 1 GB over. That’s why it doesn't worry me one bit. From: Jason Bailey j284...@yahoo.comReply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgDate: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 5:41 PMTo: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgSubject: Re: [WISPA] 4g? http://www.mlive.com/business/index.ssf/2012/05/new_rural_internet_option_veri.html Nice___Wireless mailing listWireless@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] 4g?
Anyone remember when sprint did this? The support headache killed it quickly --- On Wed, 5/23/12, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] 4g? To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2012, 6:04 PM Old News Sent from my Motorola Startac... On May 23, 2012, at 5:42 PM, Jason Bailey j284...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.mlive.com/business/index.ssf/2012/05/new_rural_internet_option_veri.html Nice ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] 4g?
700/800 MHz with an outdoor antenna? --- On Wed, 5/23/12, Victoria Proffer victo...@stlbroadband.com wrote: From: Victoria Proffer victo...@stlbroadband.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] 4g? To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2012, 6:09 PM How does this fair in heavy tree canopy? Victoria ProfferSTLWiMAX, LLC314-720-1000 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Bailey Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 5:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 4g? Anyone remember when sprint did this? The support headache killed it quickly --- On Wed, 5/23/12, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] 4g? To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2012, 6:04 PMOldNews Sent from my Motorola Startac... On May 23, 2012, at 5:42 PM, Jason Bailey j284...@yahoo.com wrote:http://www.mlive.com/business/index.ssf/2012/05/new_rural_internet_option_veri.html Nice___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -Inline Attachment Follows-___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Brian's coverage map broken?
Way out-dated..but it's good here too. --- On Fri, 5/11/12, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: From: Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brian's coverage map broken? To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Friday, May 11, 2012, 10:02 PM Works for me Regards, Chuck On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 7:24 PM, Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org wrote: Worked for me -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Sam Tetherow Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 6:55 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brian's coverage map broken? Yes. On 05/11/2012 05:51 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Does this fail to load at all or completely for anyone else? http://www.wirelessmapping.com/Google%20Maps3.htm Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Customer Routers
Looks to be powered by the stock cpe's poe. We need one that does both. --- On Mon, 4/30/12, Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181) o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: From: Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181) o...@odessaoffice.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Routers To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Monday, April 30, 2012, 5:00 PM Hmmm, anyone using them? Who stocks them? What do you do, plug your own power brick into it? That would kind of defete the purpose wouldn't it? That's not really much different than a standard install. thanks, marlon - Original Message - From: Ryan McKenzie To: WISPA General List Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Routers Marlon, In response to your statement: Some days I just wish the POE had a wifi router built into it so we could include wifi like the telco does these days. ARC makes one. It's the iFlex indoor AP. You could use any brand of POE (including Moto) from 9-24VDC to power the device and then passthrough power to a client device on the roof. Thanks, Ryan McKenzie On 4/30/12 11:05 AM, Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181) wrote: We use mainly Linksys units. They are a bit more expensive but we don't deal with warranty issues etc. I'll install them at hookup if the customer wants one. We've been trying the ones from Readylink but so far the jury is out on them. Sometimes they work nicely, other customers have nothing but trouble with them. Half the cost of the Linksys and better antennas. Some days I just wish the POE had a wifi router built into it so we could include wifi like the telco does these days. marlon - Original Message - From: Darin Steffl To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 11:31 AM Subject: [WISPA] Customer Routers Hey guys, What are some of you providing for customer wireless routers if you include them in the install as I do? I currently have a batch of 10 Ubiquiti Air Routers and the first two I pulled out are giving me some problems. Could be a bad batch. I am also looking at TP-Link as they are about $30 on Amazon with external antennas and pretty good reviews. TP-Link TL-WR841N What are you guys using? -- Darin Steffl ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] More spectrum?
That is exactly what I was thinking. We sure could use it! --- On Mon, 4/2/12, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: From: Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net Subject: Re: [WISPA] More spectrum? To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Monday, April 2, 2012, 9:22 AM Right. This is the next part of the puzzle. John Scrivner wrong to the list a email titled [WISPA] Future of Wifi Offloading WAS: Ericsson is buying BelAir, betting on Wi-Fi. This auction sums up my post in that thread. The cellco's are getting smarter about what the users want and about how to deliver it to them. Look at the partnerships that cellco's are making with cable co's. The cable companies already have large high speed footprints. Its trivial to throw a cable modem with a AP in it onto a pole. Suddenly you have a very large roamable footprint, if only that wifi chipset had a little more cellular sauce in it. Atheros chips very well could do it with some good firmware, look at Ubnt. They are pretty close with their GPS, for a small in house project. Look at what Ubnt did with just a highly experienced RF team? AirFiber. Now do the same with more money and in a cellular project aimed at very small and very fast cells. Sky is not falling, yet. Jeromie On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 6:54 AM, wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: I see that going to the cellular guys. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Jason Bailey j284...@yahoo.com To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 8:57:16 PM Subject: [WISPA] More spectrum? http://www.tvtechnology.com/article/fcc-carves-out-another--mhz-forms-spectrum-auction-task-force/212502 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] More spectrum?
No,I'm not. I was just saying we sure could use it!!! --- On Mon, 4/2/12, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: From: Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net Subject: Re: [WISPA] More spectrum? To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Monday, April 2, 2012, 9:32 AM Are you a cell co? I do not see anyone with out deep pockets getting the RF. Not unless the FCC does this auction in very small chunks. On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 6:26 AM, Jason Bailey j284...@yahoo.com wrote: That is exactly what I was thinking. We sure could use it! --- On Mon, 4/2/12, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: From: Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net Subject: Re: [WISPA] More spectrum? To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Monday, April 2, 2012, 9:22 AM Right. This is the next part of the puzzle. John Scrivner wrong to the list a email titled [WISPA] Future of Wifi Offloading WAS: Ericsson is buying BelAir, betting on Wi-Fi. This auction sums up my post in that thread. The cellco's are getting smarter about what the users want and about how to deliver it to them. Look at the partnerships that cellco's are making with cable co's. The cable companies already have large high speed footprints. Its trivial to throw a cable modem with a AP in it onto a pole. Suddenly you have a very large roamable footprint, if only that wifi chipset had a little more cellular sauce in it. Atheros chips very well could do it with some good firmware, look at Ubnt. They are pretty close with their GPS, for a small in house project. Look at what Ubnt did with just a highly experienced RF team? AirFiber. Now do the same with more money and in a cellular project aimed at very small and very fast cells. Sky is not falling, yet. Jeromie On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 6:54 AM, wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: I see that going to the cellular guys. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Jason Bailey j284...@yahoo.com To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 8:57:16 PM Subject: [WISPA] More spectrum? http://www.tvtechnology.com/article/fcc-carves-out-another--mhz-forms-spectrum-auction-task-force/212502 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] More spectrum?
http://www.tvtechnology.com/article/fcc-carves-out-another--mhz-forms-spectrum-auction-task-force/212502 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Omni antenna for a rocket M900
What I did was connect the omni to one port,connected a h-pol 9db panel and pointed it toward the majority of customers. --- On Tue, 3/13/12, Eduardo edua...@webjogger.net wrote: From: Eduardo edua...@webjogger.net Subject: [WISPA] Omni antenna for a rocket M900 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2012, 5:26 PM _filtered #yiv338743505 { font-family:Cambria Math;} _filtered #yiv338743505 { font-family:Calibri;} _filtered #yiv338743505 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;} #yiv338743505 P.yiv338743505MsoNormal { MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;FONT-FAMILY:sans-serif;FONT-SIZE:11pt;} #yiv338743505 LI.yiv338743505MsoNormal { MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;FONT-FAMILY:sans-serif;FONT-SIZE:11pt;} #yiv338743505 DIV.yiv338743505MsoNormal { MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;FONT-FAMILY:sans-serif;FONT-SIZE:11pt;} #yiv338743505 A:link { COLOR:blue;TEXT-DECORATION:underline;} #yiv338743505 SPAN.yiv338743505MsoHyperlink { COLOR:blue;TEXT-DECORATION:underline;} #yiv338743505 A:visited { COLOR:purple;TEXT-DECORATION:underline;} #yiv338743505 SPAN.yiv338743505MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR:purple;TEXT-DECORATION:underline;} #yiv338743505 SPAN.yiv338743505EmailStyle17 { FONT-FAMILY:sans-serif;COLOR:windowtext;} #yiv338743505 .yiv338743505MsoChpDefault { } #yiv338743505 DIV.yiv338743505WordSection1 { } I have some customers inside a 1 mile radius of a POP. We want to use a rocket M900 with an omni antenna and put a dummy load on the other RPSMA lead, since we couldn't find any MIMO 900MHz omni available. Does anyone have any experience doing this? Thanks, Eduardo Webjogger Internet Services www.webjogger.net -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Providing Data to rescue/rebuilding teams during recovery/disaster sites
I'm in. You need to get with Rick Harnish to organize this. --- On Wed, 2/22/12, Zach Mann zma...@gmail.com wrote: From: Zach Mann zma...@gmail.com Subject: [WISPA] Providing Data to rescue/rebuilding teams during recovery/disaster sites To: wireless@wispa.org Date: Wednesday, February 22, 2012, 5:27 PM Hello All, Being that this list covers all 50 states, I wanted to throw out the idea of getting folks on-board and assembled to help a company that has a sole focus of providing relief/disaster response. These WISP's/Individuals would basically be on stand-by and would be able to assist if needed. If a tornado event like Joplin took place, this company could call on the nearest WISP on the list to help bring up communications asap. Is this possible? Zach Mann913.710.7220 -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Providing Data to rescue/rebuilding teams during recovery/disaster sites
Seems like maintaining an annually update list that has what each wisp could offer,if needed. Climbers,I.T. guru's with what level of networking skill,bucket trucks etc.. --- On Wed, 2/22/12, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Providing Data to rescue/rebuilding teams during recovery/disaster sites To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wednesday, February 22, 2012, 5:29 PM Couldn't they just reach the WISPA members list? http://www.wispa.org/member-directory Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 5:27 PM, Zach Mann zma...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, Being that this list covers all 50 states, I wanted to throw out the idea of getting folks on-board and assembled to help a company that has a sole focus of providing relief/disaster response. These WISP's/Individuals would basically be on stand-by and would be able to assist if needed. If a tornado event like Joplin took place, this company could call on the nearest WISP on the list to help bring up communications asap. Is this possible? Zach Mann 913.710.7220 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Ubnt RocketM2 stock
http://www.ubnt.com/stock --- On Thu, 2/9/12, Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com wrote: From: Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com Subject: [WISPA] Ubnt RocketM2 stock To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, February 9, 2012, 9:21 AM Does anyone have any in stock they would be willing to part with. Looking to purchase 15 Scott Piehn JCWIFI Division Manager Computer Dynamics 451 W. South St Freeport, IL 61032 V. 815-233-2641 -Inline Attachment Follows- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Problem with Access to Canopy network
If you are bridging radios,whats to stop a client from plugging a router in backwards,or any other ip device? Route at the cpe,192.x or 10.x either way you should be good. --- On Fri, 11/11/11, rwall...@tigernet.us rwall...@tigernet.us wrote: From: rwall...@tigernet.us rwall...@tigernet.us Subject: Re: [WISPA] Problem with Access to Canopy network To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org, Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com Date: Friday, November 11, 2011, 6:31 PM Yes, I am bridging the radios, and using static addr's for each customer. Original Message Subject: Re: [WISPA] Problem with Access to Canopy network From: Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com Date: Fri, November 11, 2011 5:54 pm To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org So are you bridging the radios? It still sounds like a networking problem instead of the radio. If you are not bridging and using DHCP on the radio, try it in bridge mode and see if that changes anything. Scottie Arnett President Info-Ed, Inc. Electronics and More 931-243-2101 sarn...@info-ed.com - Original Message - From: rwall...@tigernet.us To: WISPA General List Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 4:21 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Problem with Access to Canopy network Thanks Scottie, Actually what is happening is as follows, all users having this problem are using MS Vista or MS7. We use Static IP's, 192.168.0.nnn or .10.nnn, .15.nnn, .20.nnn - when the assigned IP, mask, gateway and DSN's are entered at the user loc. local area Connection properties dialog and saved a yellow triangle w/ a ! appears over the Local Area Connection Icon, lower right, in the Quick Launch toolbar. When the mouse pointer is rested over the icon the message Unidentified Network, No Network Access appears. It seems Internet Explorer reads the addressing data as a security risk and will not allow access. Notwithstanding, microsoft's long and arduous efforts to provide us with secure communications, I feel they have overstepped my customers and my own needs for Microsoft Security where internet access is concerned. My question is How Do I over come their enthusiasm with security where our internet access is concerned. Ron Wallace Tigernet Internet trying to claw our way past Microsoft onto the Inet Original Message Subject: Re: [WISPA] Problem with Access to Canopy network From: Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com Date: Thu, November 10, 2011 8:52 am To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Are you doing DHCP with the client radios? If so, I remember some having problems if they used the 169.254.x.x private IP structure. Changing to another private structure solved the problem. Scottie Arnett President Info-Ed, Inc. Electronics and More 931-243-2101 sarn...@info-ed.com - Original Message - From: rwall...@tigernet.us To: WISPA General List Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 7:07 AM Subject: [WISPA] Problem with Access to Canopy network To All, I have a problem with about 15 users not able to access the net. Their PC's network icon, lower right on quick launch toolbar - MS, has a yellow triangle w/!. indicating that their ethernet interface has no access. Each user has MS7. This is specific to one tower location and three of the four sectors, 2 Canopy 900's w/180* sectors, 2 Canopy 2.4's w/ 180* sectors. At first we thought it was specific to MS7 Users, that is still the case. However, not all MS7 users. The setup of all CPE AP devices is the same. We have reset one 900 to factory default and reconfig'd that device with no affect on the ability to access the net. Any suggestions, advice, questions or direction would be greatly appreciated. Ron Wallace Hahnron, Inc. (Tigernet Internet) rwall...@tigernet.us Phone:517-547-8410 Cel:517-740-0941 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
Re: [WISPA] Installation videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iR9z5mGmP0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdmOzGCG4XI --- On Thu, 11/3/11, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com wrote: From: Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Installation videos To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, November 3, 2011, 10:30 AM Does anyone remember the episodes of the provider that was doing youtube videos? It was pretty funny. Showed a couple episodes, cleaning out the van, installing an empty house…. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Andy Trimmell Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 10:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Installation videos There was one out there from a Texas provider but it wasn’t educational more for WISP entertainment. I forget the name though. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Patrick D. Nix, Jr Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 10:08 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Installation videos We are thinking of video documenting some customer installations and tower maintenance to post on youtube for the entertainment and education of our customers. Is anyone doing this now and have some videos they would like to share for ideas? Thanks, Pat Csweb.net -Inline Attachment Follows- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service in Deland,Fl
Thanks guys! --- On Wed, 8/24/11, Dylan Bouterse dy...@corp.power1.com wrote: From: Dylan Bouterse dy...@corp.power1.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service in Deland,Fl To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Date: Wednesday, August 24, 2011, 8:05 AM They aren’t far from each other. :oP We can get to within a dozen miles of Deland, but not quite Deland. L Dylan From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Bailey Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 1:03 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service in Deland,Fl UPDATE! It's Deland! Sorry,my memory is failing!!! --- On Wed, 8/24/11, Jason Bailey j284...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Jason Bailey j284...@yahoo.com Subject: [WISPA] Service in Deltona,Fl To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wednesday, August 24, 2011, 12:57 AM Have an old friend that needs service. Hit me offlist. Thanks! Jason -Inline Attachment Follows- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -Inline Attachment Follows- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire
Mark,I think everyone knows you to be a very smart man.What do you suggest as a specific plan of action in the current situation.I think this is the best route to convey your message,with the impact you desire. Jason --- On Sat, 7/16/11, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Saturday, July 16, 2011, 12:59 AM A plan of action? If I said this is what WISPA should do and laid it out in detail, all you'd do is say who are you? Why should we hacve to do what you say? Frankly, I have no idea why you're having difficulty. You see, when you have proper business principles as your guiding mechanism, what you should do is crystal clear. Nobody needs to write out a plan of action, it becomes self evident - you always advocate FOR the proper and best thing. And, after being consistent, year after year, and when stuff like this comes up, which becomes so blatantly obviously a result of failure to follow true principle, again, nothing is obscure or difficult. Additionally, I said absolutely NOTHING partisan. Not even ideological. It's simple straightforward business principles. Principle Numero Uno is have the freedom to be in business, and there is nothing convoluted or difficult about that. You seem to be interested in mere expediency. That's what's gotten us to this crisis point, the idea of managing the favoritism, the cronyism, etc, to favor you, or at least not hurt you too much. That's what's BEEN going on. Had we (WISPA) been looking for and actively seeking allies who would with us, say with many voices, but one message - hands off, and be a steward of what's entrusted to you, I think the landscape would look different. The word steward is loaded. It means one entrusted to manage things for the benefit OF THE OWNER, that's us. The FCC and Congress are managing for the benefit of the federal treasury and the donations to campaigns - which is the polar opposite of managed for the good of the people. In the previous post, I wrote an analogy, one where the city effectively puts every service and business up for licensure at auction. It takes no imagination at all to see that the city coffers and the winning bidder are the beneficiaries and the people are the losers. Spectrum is a public or national resource held in trust by the federal government. Auctions to the highest bidder do not benefit anyone but the monopoly holder and the treasury, by creating monopolies or very limited competition. Again, we as consumers and businessmen are the losers. Imagine if there were enough spectrum delegated so that if us WISP's wanted to be mobile broadband providers we could, as well as cellular, or even video / audio broadcasters. Instead, such services have been delegated a minute slice of available spectrum, keeping up the price of the auctions - and the number of competitors down. Why? It is in the interest of politicians to separate us from our money. But their REAL job is to defend us keeping it. There are NOW myriad political allies to spread this message, to change the discussion from whom to screw out of lots of money to what is the best policy for the people and keep competition alive? And, that's the message that is NOT being advocated by WISPA, and it should be. You seem to think that the answer is to find the right pol to influence and the right committee members to lobby and the right allies to obstruct X or advance Y, but those are expediency, not principle. They should be TACTICS to a principled purpose, one that will attract others, on the basis of its soundness and validity. And lastly, about the FCC, the last administration's appointees were advocates for free markets and for competition and deregulation. Not particularly effective ones, but at least they were not our enemy. The current administration's people at the FCC are IN NO WAY our friend, for any way, manner, or purpose, and everything they want is bad for us and the country. STop talking political party talking points, and get some reality. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ -- From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 8:01 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire Errr... and your point is ? Ok, I am a nobody... I have seen / read your emails, not once can I say I have been able to pick out a proposed specific, action or a plan of action from you My friend you and I can agree or dis-agree on concepts all day long... but the point still remains ... I for myself still am not able to ascertain what exactly is it that you have been proposing ? ( I understand the anger at all of
Re: [WISPA] Cat5E
Blair,for your viewing pleasure. http://www.americantechsupply.com/outdoorcat5ewithmessenger.htm --- On Sun, 4/10/11, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote: From: Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net Subject: [WISPA] Cat5E To: memb...@wispa.org, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Sunday, April 10, 2011, 5:05 PM Looking for an aerial, shielded, Cat5E with steel messenger wire suitable for a 250ft span. Anybody got or seen such a thing? Price and availability? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch
Anyone have a good vendor for a rackmount poe switch for ubnt gear?Getting kinda messy with all the zip-ties and double-sided tape ;) Thanks! Jason WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch
Josh, I agree. I want to be able to solve my mess!Where is the solutionubnt?? --- On Fri, 2/25/11, can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net wrote: From: can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net Subject: Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Friday, February 25, 2011, 9:28 PM You could take a regular PoE switch and use Ubiquiti's Instant 802.3af converters. -Inline Attachment Follows- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rocket M 900 GPS?
you can select internal,external, or internal and external for mimo. --- On Tue, 1/11/11, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rocket M 900 GPS? To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Date: Tuesday, January 11, 2011, 4:17 PM The 900L lists “External SMA Connector” but being a MIMO, I guessed it would have 2. If just one, does the firmware allow you to choose 1 chain for the external for tx or rx? Or both…….? Just one? Sounds like an exploratory mission. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 4:14 PM To: j284...@yahoo.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rocket M 900 GPS? Locos have connectors? On Jan 11, 2011 1:44 PM, j284...@yahoo.com wrote: One Sent from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 15:43:01 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rocket M 900 GPS? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -Inline Attachment Follows- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Copyright Infringement --- TOO FUNNY!!!
Anyone remember the webramp?dial-up router? --- On Thu, 12/16/10, Scott Reed sr...@nwwnet.net wrote: From: Scott Reed sr...@nwwnet.net Subject: Re: [WISPA] Copyright Infringement --- TOO FUNNY!!! To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, December 16, 2010, 9:33 PM Youngster. I don't know that I have it, but my first high-speed modem was 9600. What a boost from 1200 which I used to do my first online class. On 12/16/2010 9:24 PM, Forbes Mercy wrote: I have my first 28.8 modem from the beginning of dial-up. On 12/16/2010 4:23 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: I keep one of my USR 56k modems on the wall =) On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Rick Harnishrharn...@wispa.org wrote: Our first employee was a 14 year old kid that hacked into our server shortly after we started a dialup business in 1995. His payment for the next couple years was hardware. Dang, he must be nearly 30 now. I can promise you he was successful! I went into the office one day and my partner said We've been hacked. I looked at him dumbfounded, not knowing with hacked meant. He said I'm going to catch him next time. The next day he said I caught him, you will never believe who it is, He is 14 years old and he starts work tomorrow. Ah the good ole days! 56K Frame Relay backbone and (16) 19,200 baud US Robotics modems. :) Rick -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Lambert Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 5:45 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Copyright Infringement --- TOO FUNNY!!! On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 10:59:23AM -0800, Mark Nash wrote: When we forward copyright notices from the entertainment industry lawyers to our customers who download illegally-obtained movies, we get a variety of responses from our customers, ranging from none at all, shocked, angry, understanding, etc. This takes the cake...DEFINITELY my favorite...gettin a little wrist-slap from dad... (names have been changed to protect the guilty)... *** Hello this is Taylor Wisdom, Bill Wisdom's son. My father just informed me of an email he received from UnwiredWest via Mark Nash regarding the downloading of a film which violated copy infringement laws. The was labeled Takers. I did download the film Takers from a bit torrent website and have since then deleted the film and any programs affiliated with them. This sort of copyright infringement will not happen again. I do apologize for the inconvenience. Sincerely, Taylor Wisdom *** Sounds like most of the conversations we used to have with the 13 year old script-kiddy-wannabes in the late 90's. The parents had no clue what the kids were up to, but got very serious with the kids when we called them at 2am to report their mis-behaviour. One kid's father scared hime enough that when one of his IRC friends from another state said he was going to use a password he found for one of our customer's on our shell server, the kid told Dad and Dad dialed the phone and handed it back to the kid. He ended up talking to me. I watched the other kid log in and run a few commands. The shells were all patched to log every command run to a central log file we could tail -f. He gave me the location and name of the other kid. We called that kids's phone number: Us: Get off my server. Kid: I don't know what you're talking about dude. Us: You are logged in as user blah from IP address blither. The last command you ran was blah blah blah. Kid: I'm off. The change from cocky to oh sh** was fun for us. Us: Go get your Dad. I think that one ended up in Juvie. It wasn't his first offence and his dad had promised to send him up the river the next time he did any hacking. We were the next time he got caught. Dad said he had been caught messing with NASA before. -- Scott Lambert KC5MLE Unix SysAdmin lamb...@lambertfam.org --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Copyright Infringement --- TOO FUNNY!!!
seems wierd that we have moved so far in such a short time...What will come in the next ten years?iptv for all homes...ouch --- On Thu, 12/16/10, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: From: Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Copyright Infringement --- TOO FUNNY!!! To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, December 16, 2010, 9:40 PM I remember using one only about 10 years ago. On Dec 16, 2010, at 10:05 PM, Jason Bailey wrote: Anyone remember the webramp?dial-up router? --- On Thu, 12/16/10, Scott Reed sr...@nwwnet.net wrote: From: Scott Reed sr...@nwwnet.net Subject: Re: [WISPA] Copyright Infringement --- TOO FUNNY!!! To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, December 16, 2010, 9:33 PM Youngster. I don't know that I have it, but my first high-speed modem was 9600. What a boost from 1200 which I used to do my first online class. On 12/16/2010 9:24 PM, Forbes Mercy wrote: I have my first 28.8 modem from the beginning of dial-up. On 12/16/2010 4:23 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: I keep one of my USR 56k modems on the wall =) On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Rick Harnishrharn...@wispa.org wrote: Our first employee was a 14 year old kid that hacked into our server shortly after we started a dialup business in 1995. His payment for the next couple years was hardware. Dang, he must be nearly 30 now. I can promise you he was successful! I went into the office one day and my partner said We've been hacked. I looked at him dumbfounded, not knowing with hacked meant. He said I'm going to catch him next time. The next day he said I caught him, you will never believe who it is, He is 14 years old and he starts work tomorrow. Ah the good ole days! 56K Frame Relay backbone and (16) 19,200 baud US Robotics modems. :) Rick -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Lambert Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 5:45 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Copyright Infringement --- TOO FUNNY!!! On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 10:59:23AM -0800, Mark Nash wrote: When we forward copyright notices from the entertainment industry lawyers to our customers who download illegally-obtained movies, we get a variety of responses from our customers, ranging from none at all, shocked, angry, understanding, etc. This takes the cake...DEFINITELY my favorite...gettin a little wrist-slap from dad... (names have been changed to protect the guilty)... *** Hello this is Taylor Wisdom, Bill Wisdom's son. My father just informed me of an email he received from UnwiredWest via Mark Nash regarding the downloading of a film which violated copy infringement laws. The was labeled Takers. I did download the film Takers from a bit torrent website and have since then deleted the film and any programs affiliated with them. This sort of copyright infringement will not happen again. I do apologize for the inconvenience. Sincerely, Taylor Wisdom *** Sounds like most of the conversations we used to have with the 13 year old script-kiddy-wannabes in the late 90's. The parents had no clue what the kids were up to, but got very serious with the kids when we called them at 2am to report their mis-behaviour. One kid's father scared hime enough that when one of his IRC friends from another state said he was going to use a password he found for one of our customer's on our shell server, the kid told Dad and Dad dialed the phone and handed it back to the kid. He ended up talking to me. I watched the other kid log in and run a few commands. The shells were all patched to log every command run to a central log file we could tail -f. He gave me the location and name of the other kid. We called that kids's phone number: Us: Get off my server. Kid: I don't know what you're talking about dude. Us: You are logged in as user blah from IP address blither. The last command you ran was blah blah blah. Kid: I'm off. The change from cocky to oh sh** was fun for us. Us: Go get your Dad. I think that one ended up in Juvie. It wasn't his first offence and his dad had promised to send him up the river the next time he did any hacking. We were the next time he got caught. Dad said he had been caught messing with NASA before. -- Scott Lambert KC5MLE Unix SysAdmin lamb...@lambertfam.org --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
Re: [WISPA] New Job Posting in WISPA Classifieds
Wow,sounds like what I do for free.;) --- On Wed, 11/17/10, Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org wrote: From: Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] New Job Posting in WISPA Classifieds To: memb...@wispa.org, wireless@wispa.org Date: Wednesday, November 17, 2010, 1:42 PM Field Technician Contact Information Contact Todd Bergstrom Phone: 303-376-3760 Location : Frederick, Colorado, USA Visit Website More Information Responsibilities: The field technician is responsible for all wireless networking integration services 3-dB Networks offers. Duties will include but not be limited to wireless site surveys, installation of wireless networking devices and maintenance of networks. Qualifications: • A minimum of three years of related work experience is required • Good working knowledge of switched/routed networks • Knowledge of broadband wireless systems, including licensed microwave, WiFi, WiMAX, and Motorola Canopy • Ability to safely work on rooftop utilizing ladders • Willingness to work from telecommunications towers at heights up to 200’ • Safe driving record and valid driver’s license • Willingness to work in a wide range of weather conditions Respectively, Rick Harnish Executive Director WISPA 260-307-4000 cell 866-317-2851 WISPA Office Skype: rick.harnish. rharn...@wispa.org -Inline Attachment Follows- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WISPA Ex Parte Filing from yesterday
In the days of two way radio,we had a great tx site,but low power handhelds(customer radios) couldnt be heard well by the reciever at that main tx site.We then installed remote reciever sites to be able to better hear the handhelds(customer radios)They uaually heard the main tx site fine. Jason --- On Thu, 10/14/10, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA Ex Parte Filing from yesterday To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, October 14, 2010, 8:26 PM Maybe explain what it means to WISPs? On Oct 14, 2010 8:17 PM, Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com wrote: Fred, If you don't know how to use this then don't use it. Simple. Thank-you for your opinion and have a good day. jack On 10/14/2010 5:13 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote: At 10/14/2010 06:35 PM, you wrote: Fred, Sites with TVWS receiving equipment instead of TVWS base stations that transmit. Yes, which is worth precisely zero to a WISP, since we need two-way transceivers. The only receive-only equipment is what goes with wireless mics; the mics themselves are transmit only. jack On 10/14/2010 3:22 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote: At 10/14/2010 06:12 PM, you wrote: Steve Coran (respresenting WISPA), Comsearch, Motorola and Spectrum Bridge met with Julius Knapp and others from the FCC OET office yesterday in regard to certain limiting factors in the TVWS Memorandum Report Order language. Below is the Ex parte Filing that was made today. Rick, when you guys said to remove the HAAT restriction for receive-only sites, did you really mean receive-only, or did you mean the PtP subscriber (slave) station that talks to the tower? I am glad to see action this soon on the 76-meter issue, since it not only impacts tower locations, but subscriber sites. -- Fred Goldstein k1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Author - Deploying License-Free Wireless Wide-Area Networks Serving the Broadband Wireless, Networking and Telecom Communities since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Fred Goldstein k1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Author - Deploying License-Free Wireless Wide-Area Networks Serving the Broadband Wireless, Networking and Telecom Communities since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -Inline Attachment Follows- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WISPA Ex Parte Filing from yesterday
Fred,many of those tvws channels are untouchable,unless you run your tx at 40mw.A full duplex system has the ap at full power on one channel,the s/u tx ing on a low power only channel in full duplex.Many more channels are then available and you may now see the reason for this...BTW,those low power channels are considered mobile and wouldnt have all the restrictions.Do you see my point?Jason --- On Thu, 10/14/10, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com wrote: From: Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA Ex Parte Filing from yesterday To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, October 14, 2010, 8:58 PM At 10/14/2010 08:35 PM, Jason Bailey wrote: In the days of two way radio,we had a great tx site,but low power handhelds(customer radios) couldnt be heard well by the reciever at that main tx site.We then installed remote reciever sites to be able to better hear the handhelds(customer radios)They uaually heard the main tx site fine. Jason That makes sense when power is highly asymmetrical, as with an HT. However, power limits on TVWS are all low -- 4 W ERP max for a fixed unit -- so there's little reason to do that. A wireless mic (personal/portable) system just might, if it has to cover a fairly large area, but that's not what WISPs need. And wireless mics (non-fixed devices) aren't subject to the HAAT limit; their receivers can be anywhere too. Channels up to 20 are only usable by Fixed devices. The term receive only is not defined in the recent TVWS Order. It was used in the old days for satellite receivers, back when you needed a license to legally pick up a satellite signal. They dropped TVRO licensing after a lot of rural people had put in unauthorized dishes (remember those), prior to the start of DBS services. ju the only snarky insults are the ones that you contributed. Oh, and Jack, I actually did read the whole new policy. Why do you think I joined the great silence greeting a certain other poster's partisan comments earlier today? I'm seriously asking about what you meant, and what position was expressed to the FCC. Really. You didn't answer me. Unless you think worth precisely zero was an insult, though I meant it quite literally. I work with an organization that is pulling a ton of middle-mile fiber which we hope will be attractive to WISPs, to serve currently unserved areas. I've even done some strawman designs in RadioMobile to test the feasibility. But those areas (hill towns) have houses, not to mention CAIs (on fiber) and thus obvious AP sites, higher than 75m HAAT. So the height rules are a real problem in both directions. I read your FCC posting and saw the term receive only. It also talked about moving towers below the 75m limit, and didn't directly address subscribers. But the Fixed rules apply to subscriber sites too. A WISP could often beam uphill, rather than downhill, if it were only the towers, but Fixed APs will more often talk to Fixed subscribers than to personal/portable ones. Especially when the available channels are below Ch. 21. So it's a real technical/regulatory issue I'm raising. Does anyone else here think I'm being insulting? Have I made the question clear? Or is Jack just being overly defensive? --- On Thu, 10/14/10, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA Ex Parte Filing from yesterday To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, October 14, 2010, 8:26 PM Maybe explain what it means to WISPs? On Oct 14, 2010 8:17 PM, Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com wrote: Fred, If you don't know how to use this then don't use it. Simple. Thank-you for your opinion and have a good day. jack On 10/14/2010 5:13 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote: At 10/14/2010 06:35 PM, you wrote: Fred, Sites with TVWS receiving equipment instead of TVWS base stations that transmit. Yes, which is worth precisely zero to a WISP, since we need two-way transceivers. The only receive-only equipment is what goes with wireless mics; the mics themselves are transmit only. jack On 10/14/2010 3:22 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote: At 10/14/2010 06:12 PM, you wrote: Steve Coran (respresenting WISPA), Comsearch, Motorola and Spectrum Bridge met with Julius Knapp and others from the FCC OET office yesterday in regard to certain limiting factors in the TVWS Memorandum Report Order language. Below is the Ex parte Filing that was made today. Rick, when you guys said to remove the HAAT restriction for receive-only sites, did you really mean receive-only, or did you mean the PtP subscriber (slave) station that talks to the tower? I am glad to see action this soon on the 76-meter issue, since it not only impacts tower locations, but subscriber sites. -- Fred Goldstein k1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http
[WISPA] tvws $$$$$$$$$$$
Just a few quick questions.Who will actually make the gear?What will it cost??? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless?
satellite internet sux! Try and argue!discussion has ended --- On Wed, 9/22/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless? To: fai...@snappydsl.net, 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Date: Wednesday, September 22, 2010, 10:51 PM Yep, just checked the log.. 6 lost packets. DAMN YOU FAISAL!! Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 10:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless? Ah. Feeling rather full after dinner.. Bob.. Count your pigeons to see if any of them are missing.. Oh Boy !... The Stuffed Pigeons we had for dinner were very delicious...! :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 9/22/2010 10:08 PM, Robert West wrote: That's about UK Pigeons. US pigeons are MUCH faster! My pigeons have a 13ms ping, verified by Speed Test .Net. I'm really getting tired of pigeon bashing by the media. It all depends on the flock. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John Thomas Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 6:43 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless? http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/it-8217s-official-carrier-pigeons -are-f aster-than-rural-internet/173?tag=nl.e539 -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless?
like --- On Wed, 9/22/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless? To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Date: Wednesday, September 22, 2010, 11:01 PM Boy, that’s for sure. How many non-penetrating roof mounts have I refused to take after replacing the BS dish with the good stuff………? Lots. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Bailey Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 10:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless? satellite internet sux! Try and argue!discussion has ended --- On Wed, 9/22/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless? To: fai...@snappydsl.net, 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Date: Wednesday, September 22, 2010, 10:51 PM Yep, just checked the log.. 6 lost packets. DAMN YOU FAISAL!! Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 10:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless? Ah. Feeling rather full after dinner.. Bob.. Count your pigeons to see if any of them are missing.. Oh Boy !... The Stuffed Pigeons we had for dinner were very delicious...! :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 9/22/2010 10:08 PM, Robert West wrote: That's about UK Pigeons. US pigeons are MUCH faster! My pigeons have a 13ms ping, verified by Speed Test .Net. I'm really getting tired of pigeon bashing by the media. It all depends on the flock. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John Thomas Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 6:43 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless? http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/it-8217s-official-carrier-pigeons -are-f aster-than-rural-internet/173?tag=nl.e539 -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -Inline Attachment Follows- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] speed test
turn on bursting?works awesome,they don't wanna tell you the results because they think they are getting way more than they should. --- On Sun, 9/12/10, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Subject: [WISPA] speed test To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Sunday, September 12, 2010, 7:29 PM OK for all your speed hungry customers that want to run speed tests to speedtest.net and dslreports.com - the question is: what do you do? I've never really had good results with off net speed tests even when removing the load and running directly t from my laptop to my fiber connection. But I get these people who think they're not getting what they pay for :( -RickG -Inline Attachment Follows- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] speed test
what type of wireless gear are you using? --- On Sun, 9/12/10, David Williamson dwilliam...@customcomputersva.com wrote: From: David Williamson dwilliam...@customcomputersva.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Sunday, September 12, 2010, 8:53 PM How do you turn on bursting because I get these same types of users complaining because of a stupid speed test result. David From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Bailey Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 8:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test turn on bursting?works awesome,they don't wanna tell you the results because they think they are getting way more than they should. --- On Sun, 9/12/10, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Subject: [WISPA] speed test To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Sunday, September 12, 2010, 7:29 PM OK for all your speed hungry customers that want to run speed tests to speedtest.net and dslreports.com - the question is: what do you do? I've never really had good results with off net speed tests even when removing the load and running directly t from my laptop to my fiber connection. But I get these people who think they're not getting what they pay for :( -RickG -Inline Attachment Follows- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -Inline Attachment Follows- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Commercial rooftop - Tripod
For commercial vsat we would build up with treated 4x4 and bolt standard non-pen to it. --- On Wed, 9/8/10, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Commercial rooftop - Tripod To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wednesday, September 8, 2010, 1:09 PM If you can get to the underside put angle iron or square tubing between the support beams and put your bolts through them. marlon - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 9:53 AM Subject: [WISPA] Commercial rooftop - Tripod I am looking to install a tripod on a commercial rooftop. It's the style with the metal framing (3' or larger spans) and just insulation and the roofing material between. What do you guys do when you have to setup a tripod on such a roof? Two legs could probably be secured to the metal framing, but what to do with the 3rd leg is what puzzles me. I have installed on this type of roof before, but it was with a DSS mount. I just sucked the 2 bolts holding the DSS down tight and used nuts and lock washers on the back side. I may have left the remaining holes unsecured. I seriously doubt I could do the same thing with a tripod. -- - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Providers
Eric,I have been trying for months to get someone at att to sell me fiber that is already in my building,they don't call back or dont know who to have me call!!Can you help?Thanks!Jason --- On Wed, 9/1/10, Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org wrote: From: Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Providers To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Date: Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 5:47 PM That is Henry Street in Indy. It is the main colo facility where all the carriers are. My company has had rack space at Henry Street since early 2008 in Lifeline Data Center. Lifeline has another new data center further east in Indy. Rick -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 5:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Providers I'll call shortly. It looks like there's a cluster there near 70 and the river I'd look into. http://www.datacentermap.com/usa/indiana/indianapolis/map.html - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/1/2010 3:50 PM, Eric Rogers wrote: We are only 8 miles from Indy, but there are no other CLECs in the central office for Mooresville. So, our options are ATT, or Comcast (because they have coax). Shoot me a call (317) 831-3000 x200 if you have ideas. Eric -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 3:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Providers I think we spoke once before. You're not too far out from Indianapolis, so you should be able to get IP there at a decent rate. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/1/2010 2:41 PM, Eric Rogers wrote: I am looking for multiple connections to the internet. We currently have ATT Fiber and IPs. We want to look at redundancy in terms of becoming a BGP peer, and purchasing our own IP addresses. The ONLY other provider in our area is Comcast. Has anyone worked with them to do any BGP peering? What really rocked my boat was that I am seeing new ISPs signing up with ATT Opt-E-Man with 100 MB circuits for $2600/mo. That is less than what I am paying for my 50 MB circuit. I called my sales rep and they stated that I could get a 100 MB circuit for $4200/mo and because I am under contract for another year, there is nothing they can do for price...so pretty much they are saying to me that they want new customers, and anyone under contract they can gouge as long as I am under contract... When can we get rid of these monopolies?!?!? Eric Rogers Precision Data Solutions, LLC (317) 831-3000 x200 - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's
My customers that run 1Mb down use it and have no trouble?Excessive bursting,then throttling will cause rebuffering after initial burst i have found. --- On Tue, 8/31/10, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 7:09 PM Under 3mb causes alot of complaints due to repeated buffeting. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 31, 2010, at 2:45 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: Why not bandwidth shape them down to something reasonable? I find 1.1~1.2mbit for netflix and it looks fine. they will each 5mbit if you let it. This keeps things pretty manageable here.b On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net wrote: OK, so should we be doing DNS redirecting. Redirect hulu.com to allowvideo.com for $9.95 Shopping Cart item. Alacart content? Its no different than Microsoft Windows XP, being allowed to bundle Iexplorer and MSN with WindowsOS, as long as they included signup links for downloading and subscribing to NetScape and one ro two other Big Internet Providers. As long as its not discriminatory Make sure to include an Allow Item for EVERY Video Provider you can think of Example Welcome to Allow Video.com Shopping Cart. 1. Enable Hulu $9.95 2. Enable NetFlix $9.95 3. Enable GoogleTV $9.95 4. Enable ESPN360 $9.95 (Note... would redirect to third party ISP partnering with your ISP able to deliver an ESPN360 compatible IP or cached data :-) 5. Enable MYISP TV (Note: charge for access to your own Video services that you self host/offer, so its availble accross other ISPs also from this site, and so non-discriminary) Disclaimer: This site/fee allows access to reach the above video provider sites. Access to enter and obtain the site's offered services and content is not covered by this fee. Additional subscription fees may be required directly by the Video content provider. View their sites for their fees, terms and conditions.. So. Comcast my video access provider charges consumers $9.95 for HBO and $9.95 more for Showtime alacart, why cant I as the Internet Access provider charge my subs the same? The problem is NOT charging for content. The problem is not allowing some to buy access to content. The problem is not allowing all to carry or resell the content. The facts are...Verizon and Comcasts wont charge for content, if we are allowed to carry content and we choose to not charge for it. If we charge more than the market will bear, consumers will leave us, and that keeps us honeset and fair. Its already established that Consumers have been willing to pay for content. If the video content providers complain, tell them you'll give them a revenue share if they send you a caching server for you to host::-) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's Is it even legal to block IP addresses??? I don't think there are any laws on it at this point. It's like ESPN's service - the default policy is to block but there is an accept policy for those that pay. If it is.. why dont you just block the whole domain alias??? Lots of overhead, lots of DNS queries. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor evdo.hs...@gmail.com wrote: WAIT... Is it even legal to block IP addresses??? If it is.. why dont you just block the whole domain alias??? On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Paul Gerstenberger pa...@hrec.coop wrote: Our TOS is written in such that we can regulate them if they are interfering with other customers. Our problem isn't upstream bandwidth, but the wireless network (in places). We need to use Trango 900s in places, hard to educate people that their using netflix ruins the internet for X number of other customers on that AP... when many other customers on the network can use netfix with no problems. We do not have an enforced overage policy, but with the increased accounting with our PPPoE changeover, we will be able to enforce soon. I'm not looking forward to those phone calls, but it must be done... -Paul On Aug 30, 2010, at 9:51 AM, David E. Smith wrote: On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:47, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: Whats your thoughts on blocking limelight IP’s just for the customers that are abusing the service. If you mean that they're abusing your service, you'll have to clarify what that means - the customer pays for bits to be delivered, and you're delivering them. If you sell an unlimited service,
Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.
14 mile link,bullet m5 w/pac 28db grids40+each way,for months. --- On Tue, 8/31/10, Mark Dueck m...@netking.bz wrote: From: Mark Dueck m...@netking.bz Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles. To: wireless@wispa.org Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 12:02 AM I can tell you not more than 14 miles because I did a 14mile link with these for 3 weeks. It was better than no link, but they were not stable. I was getting about 512k throughput. On 08/30/2010 09:24 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote: Distance? - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 8:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles. I have NSM5 that do 150 megs aggregate right now. On Aug 30, 2010 11:09 PM, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: I've already got UBNT stuff in production, and I know without a doubt it won't handle 100m full duplex - especially at 25 miles. Might be possible to do parallel links or something, but that would require some kind of load failover system at each end, since no way will it do 100 m one way, if there's any backward traffic. What Proxim stuff? ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 +... From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 4:22 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles. Proxim, Ubiquiti M... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne ... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -Inline Attachment Follows- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] shielded termination
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Re: [WISPA] Tower site thefts
$50 dollar fence charger? tsc,here we come! --- On Fri, 8/20/10, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: From: Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower site thefts To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Friday, August 20, 2010, 11:55 PM most of them have a a automatic FTP upload or other streaming feature. VLC on the backend works as do a few other options On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 8:49 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: In that case, what do you use for the DVR software? On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: There are good $75 ethernet cameras. Use a linux PC for the DVR/Face Rec/Alerts On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Ralph ralphli...@bsrg.org wrote: This is right next to one of our sites. Glad they caught them! Subject: [WISPA] Tower site thefts http://www.wirelessestimator.com/breaking_news.cfm#Generator WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] off topic -- sky show tonight
Not seeing it,where should I be looking??? --- On Thu, 8/12/10, St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.com wrote: From: St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] off topic -- sky show tonight To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 8:46 PM This is also known as the T-Square Convergence: PLANETS ALIGN FOR THE PERSEIDS: Mark your calendar- On Thursday, August 12th, an alignment of planets in the sunset sky will kick off the finest meteor shower of 2010, the Perseids. Solar wind speed has remained consistent over the last 8 days- perhaps an early indication that solar intensity is strengthening. Geomagnetic activity has subsided to low levels and the aurora show of August 3rd and 4th has come to an end but the Earth could face another potential geomagnetic storm as early as next week. Sunspots have erupted across the entire surface of the Sun, facing Earth. Sunspots 1092 and 1093 pose a threat for C-class solar flares. -Space Weather Victoria Proffer - President/CEO StLouisBroadband.com ShowMeBroadband.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 7:36 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] off topic -- sky show tonight The show begins at sundown when Venus, Saturn, Mars and the crescent Moon pop out of the western twilight in tight conjunction. All four heavenly objects will fit within a circle about 10 degrees in diameter, beaming together through the dusky colors of sunset. No telescope is required to enjoy this naked-eye event. Stay up late and the Perseid meteor shower will be peaking too. Friendly Regards, Mike Gilchrist Disruptive Technologist Advanced Wireless Express P.O. Box 255 Toledo, IA 52342 239.770.6203 m...@aweiowa.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3060 - Release Date: 08/12/10 13:34:00 -Inline Attachment Follows- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] off topic -- sky show tonight
been looking,no luck,I'll keep at it. Thanks --- On Thu, 8/12/10, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: From: Mike m...@aweiowa.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] off topic -- sky show tonight To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 10:19 PM To the west in the setting sun. The moon has set at my location but Venus is brightest with mars up and left, and Saturn up and right. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Bailey Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:07 PM To: li...@stlbroadband.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] off topic -- sky show tonight Not seeing it,where should I be looking??? --- On Thu, 8/12/10, St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.com wrote: From: St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] off topic -- sky show tonight To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 8:46 PM This is also known as the T-Square Convergence: PLANETS ALIGN FOR THE PERSEIDS: Mark your calendar- On Thursday, August 12th, an alignment of planets in the sunset sky will kick off the finest meteor shower of 2010, the Perseids. Solar wind speed has remained consistent over the last 8 days- perhaps an early indication that solar intensity is strengthening. Geomagnetic activity has subsided to low levels and the aurora show of August 3rd and 4th has come to an end but the Earth could face another potential geomagnetic storm as early as next week. Sunspots have erupted across the entire surface of the Sun, facing Earth. Sunspots 1092 and 1093 pose a threat for C-class solar flares. -Space Weather Victoria Proffer - President/CEO StLouisBroadband.com ShowMeBroadband.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 7:36 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] off topic -- sky show tonight The show begins at sundown when Venus, Saturn, Mars and the crescent Moon pop out of the western twilight in tight conjunction. All four heavenly objects will fit within a circle about 10 degrees in diameter, beaming together through the dusky colors of sunset. No telescope is required to enjoy this naked-eye event. Stay up late and the Perseid meteor shower will be peaking too. Friendly Regards, Mike Gilchrist Disruptive Technologist Advanced Wireless Express P.O. Box 255 Toledo, IA 52342 239.770.6203 m...@aweiowa.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3060 - Release Date: 08/12/10 13:34:00 -Inline Attachment Follows- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -Inline Attachment Follows- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] ATT fiber
A new fiber demarc was installed in the same building as we are.Anyone have contact info for Michigan rep? Thanks! Jason WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] I NEED HELP
If it's all layer 2 bridge,maybe a second dhcp server running? Are you running dhcp? --- On Sun, 8/1/10, Eric Rogers ecrog...@precisionds.com wrote: From: Eric Rogers ecrog...@precisionds.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] I NEED HELP To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Sunday, August 1, 2010, 9:16 AM Forbes, Can you give me a little more info on the setup of your network? Are you layer 2 throughout your backhauls and tower sites? I have seen OSPF flapping causing some weird issues on layer 3 networks. If you look at the routers in the tower site, do you see anything in the log as to what is going on? Experience says it is the first site that is having issues that is causing issues behind it. Eric Rogers Precision Data Solutions, LLC (317) 831-3000 x200 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 2:45 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] I NEED HELP This has been a very long day, after a lightning storm we started to have towers randomly drop for 2-10 minutes with no consistency as to where, how how long. The tower that was affected by last nights lightning restarted (locally) so that wasn't it. The outages were so extensive that at one time we had 17 devices down and five minutes later 65 devices down, 10 minutes later 33, so you see where this is coming from. I went to the head end and rebooted everything from the core router on out., changed passwords on the core in case it had been compromised but show run didn't reveal anything. Oh the other thing, every computer we have started to say IP address is in use on the network, no matter what we changed it to, even a subnet we don't yet use it said it was in use. I had to repair my connection often just to do work on the network and it would work for a while then again say duplicate IP. That's why I'm convinced it's traffic. I started turning Towers back on one at a time and for about 6 towers there were no drops, I drove to the next junction site to turn more on but by then the original 6 were dropping, I turned the rest of them on but by now it's 11PM so traffic was probably lower as it's Sat. Night. Honestly I don't know what to do, Our Backhauls are all Mikrotik to our 12 towers, WireShark isn't seeing anything unusual, I have icmp packet drop in the filters. My weekend is basically ruined, what's new in this business, but if anyone has ideas I've talked to two networking gurus in town and they both said geez I don't know you wireless guys have way bigger networks than we do. sigh. Thanks, Forbes WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting
model/any other spec on them? --- On Tue, 7/27/10, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tuesday, July 27, 2010, 2:40 PM If anyone is interested, I got 6 nighthawk units brand new willing to part with very easely….(cheap) Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 2:19 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting Worked for me two weeks ago. On Jul 27, 2010 2:06 PM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: nighthawk systems used to sell pager reboot devices. I still have a few, but they quit supporting the paging protocol used on my units...now they are paperweights. Cameron On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: What are you... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -Inline Attachment Follows- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DHCP Question
what is your dhcp lease time set to? --- On Thu, 7/22/10, Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.net wrote: From: Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.net Subject: [WISPA] DHCP Question To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, July 22, 2010, 8:38 PM I have a customer that has a RB411R as the CPE. It is running DHCP server on the ethernet interface. They have a Belkin 3129 SOHO router that gets its address from the RB. At least once per day the router will drop its address and get a new one. During this time the router and the customer's computers show the Internet is down (the router has a red/green light on the front.) I have replaced the radio and the POE-24i the powers it. I thought maybe the Cat5 was kinked at the CPE end so I replace the RJ45. What am I missing that would cause a device to request a DHCP address? -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x2241 1-260-827-2241 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Pole-mounted base stations
--- On Mon, 7/19/10, Phil Curnutt pcurn...@gmail.com wrote: From: Phil Curnutt pcurn...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pole-mounted base stations To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Monday, July 19, 2010, 11:19 PM The anchor kit is L-bolts into concrete filled holes. The 17.5' tower weights 60 pounds plus mast (20lbs for the alum) and antennas. Four three foot holes, six inches in diameter hold two 80 lb bags of concrete; that's 620 lbs holding it down. Of course three foot holes here in New Mexico are a chore, so a tractor with a 4 auger into a hole prepped with a power washer is a necessity, but you guys out there with that deep top soil shouldn't have to much of a problem. Phil On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I would love to see that around here... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote: wish I could find prices like that... A 50ft is $600 installed around here Mike wrote: No, but I have friends/customers with really big bucket trucks. They are tree guys. Also, the local electric utility usually sets my poles. I have customers there too. The company charged me $250.00 for a 65 footer a few months back. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 5:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pole-mounted base stations Must not have any lineman friends. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 7/19/2010 4:53 PM, Mike wrote: Fred: I have some poles on my network. They are hard to climb and service would be the only caveats I'd share. Consider windmills. The ones they sell to keep ponds aerated are aesthetically pleasing and not too expensive. Friendly Regards, Mike Mike Gilchrist Disruptive Technologist Advanced Wireless Express P.O. Box 255 Toledo, IA 52342 239.770.6203 m...@aweiowa.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Fred R. Goldstein Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 3:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Pole-mounted base stations A design I'm working on is in a hilly wooded rural/resort area, not farmland. It will need a fair number (perhaps a few dozen) sites to cover the planned turf. Each node will need both backhaul (mesh, in the loose sense) and access antennas. The obvious place to put these is atop utility poles. I think the local electric cooperative will cooperate and let us rent pole space. We may however need to put additional poles in some places. They seem cheaper than metal towers and are less likely to raise the locals' eyebrows. Does anyone out there have experience with this sort of arrangement? We're in the budgeting stage now. I have an idea what the radios cost but the installation might be the bigger deal. The big engineering firms are more used to fancy cellular and fiber installs, not WISP-style radios. So we may also want to bring in someone with this kind of WISP experience to do some consulting or setup with us too. Thanks. -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
Re: [WISPA] Problems with UBNT Rocket + Mikrotik combo
change to ap-wds and sta-wds ;) --- On Tue, 7/13/10, Justin Mann justinl...@unwiredwest.com wrote: From: Justin Mann justinl...@unwiredwest.com Subject: [WISPA] Problems with UBNT Rocket + Mikrotik combo To: wireless@wispa.org Date: Tuesday, July 13, 2010, 6:08 PM Hello, My name is Justin. I work for Mark Nash, whom I'm sure you have heard from before. I'm his company's engineer. This is my first time writing into or reading the WISPA list; Mark suggested that some people here might be able to help me with a particular issue we have been experiencing. If anyone here has suggestions as to what the issue would be, I would appreciate it. Here is my scenario. We have two sites; we will call them A and B. At site A we have a Mikrotik router, running RouterOS v4.5. At site B we have 3 StarOS access points. Each access point has a /30 on it's ethernet side, shared with the router, and uses RIP. We have a bridged StarOS backhaul between them. It works pleasantly; the router has never failed to pick up the remote networks on the access points before. Recently, we have wanted to replace our StarOS backhauls with UBNT Rocket backhauls. When we attempted to do this, we encountered a very strange bug with no workaround I could find. When we switch to the Rocket backhaul, we can no longer communicate with remote networks. Now, both the APs and the Router are still running RIP - and you can look at the RIP routing information and see that the router has indeed received the downstream routes. However, we can only communicate with the /30s. If we attempted to reach the remote networks, it returns as unreachable - and if we attempt to trace those networks, it seems that the Mikrotik router is attempting to route traffic to an internal-only address assigned to the Rocket backhaul devices. Example. Network 1.0.0.0/24 is on the far side of Access point A. With the StarOS bridged backhauls, the Mikrotik router successfully adds a route to its kernel routing table to route 1.0.0.0/24 through the /30 assigned to the access point. In our failure scenario with the Rockets, the same route is successfully received via RIP, and you can see that 1.0.0.0/24 is still pointing correctly to the /30. However, when the router actually attempts to forward a packet, it forwards the packet to an internal-only address assigned to the Rocket Backhauls, an address that does not appear ANYWHERE in the router's routing table. What makes it more difficult is that even static routes do not work. If RIP is disabled on the respective devices, and a static route is entered, it still fails to work - it even fails to work if you completely remove the internal network from the router, and leave only the /30s on the interface, with a static route. The router still cannot communicate with downstream networks - only the /30 directly connected to it. this only happens with the UBNT rocket AP is in place. Currently, the rockets are configured as bridges, in AP and Station mode, with AirMax enabled. If anyone has any advice I would appreciate it. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DD-WRT
yes,but programming a new linksys in 1 minute flat is nice!,Try that netgear!!!(even customers can do it!) --- On Mon, 7/12/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] DD-WRT To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 11:41 PM The M series firmware has a SOHO router option. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Kelley Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 10:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DD-WRT i have seen this as well on the linksys hardware - but then again what good is linksys hardware? doorstops maybe. Trendnet, Netgear and others seem to have them beat... I was hoping when Cisco made the purchase they would get better... alas - time to stop holding my breath. Bob - SOHO on what ubnt units? On Jul 12, 2010, at 10:17 PM, Robert West wrote: My problem with the latest DD-WRT is that the firmware seems to overheat or lockup. At least on the Linksys hardware. Not as good anymore. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 12:14 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DD-WRT got me. We simply use MT. Guess sometimes its cheaper to use a consumer grade hardware and put some other software on them, but sounds like more work than it needs to be. --- Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of Learn RouterOS -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 11:16 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] DD-WRT Ok I have heard from lots of threads on this list that DD-WRT is the only way to go on a SOHO routers. Why? What's the benefits? What's the down falls? Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DD-WRT
walked in the door mumbling to myself as i read my blackberry,said soho and smack! time for bed. --- On Mon, 7/12/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] DD-WRT To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 11:41 PM The M series firmware has a SOHO router option. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Kelley Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 10:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DD-WRT i have seen this as well on the linksys hardware - but then again what good is linksys hardware? doorstops maybe. Trendnet, Netgear and others seem to have them beat... I was hoping when Cisco made the purchase they would get better... alas - time to stop holding my breath. Bob - SOHO on what ubnt units? On Jul 12, 2010, at 10:17 PM, Robert West wrote: My problem with the latest DD-WRT is that the firmware seems to overheat or lockup. At least on the Linksys hardware. Not as good anymore. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 12:14 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DD-WRT got me. We simply use MT. Guess sometimes its cheaper to use a consumer grade hardware and put some other software on them, but sounds like more work than it needs to be. --- Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of Learn RouterOS -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 11:16 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] DD-WRT Ok I have heard from lots of threads on this list that DD-WRT is the only way to go on a SOHO routers. Why? What's the benefits? What's the down falls? Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DD-WRT
i noticed all of them at walmart say cisco and hide linksys now,and have an added pricetag? --- On Mon, 7/12/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] DD-WRT To: sarn...@info-ed.com, 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 11:53 PM Just stay away from those 35 dollar Linksys routers at Wal-Mart. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scottie Arnett Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 11:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DD-WRT Not a pro or con on DD-WRT, but it is a very functional piece of software. I have been running it on my Linksys WRT54GL for 3 or 4 years. It supports DDNS, VLANS, VLAN tagging, Bridging, Wireless( setting all parameters), MAC radius Client, Wireless Security(WEP, ALL WPA, Radius) MAC filters, WDS, ... hell much more than I care to comment on. Load it on a cheap router(http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Supported_Devices) and see what you think. For Free, it gives 'TIK a hell of a run for the money. Scottie On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 13:24, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: No disrespect intended here, but I have been through the DD-WRT thing with Linksys and Buffalo routers. The Buffalo worked better long term. I probably did it with 20 units total. Everyone has anecdotal evidence for/against their favorite hardware, so no problem. I've had good luck with WRT54GLs (the L is important, the WRT54G is now a different and much less useful device), others have had better luck with other gear, it's all good. :) Isn't DD-WRT used for commercial purposes a pay as you go deal? The developers do offer paid support, but the software itself is (AFAIK) all GPL'd. Sometimes when you flash the DD-WRT code, and for unknown reason, you end up bricking the unit. They even say so in their Wiki. There has to be a cheap, easy to use, reliable alternative that doesn't require re-flashing and fussing. Again, I've never run into that problem, and we've probably done this a couple hundred times over the years. David Smith MVN.net -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Autoreply: Wireless Digest, Vol 31, Issue 10
Tell me about it,I'm still getting calls at this time of night because i pulled a plug to install ups. --- On Sun, 7/11/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Autoreply: Wireless Digest, Vol 31, Issue 10 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Date: Sunday, July 11, 2010, 9:18 PM I hate you. Just so ya know. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of d...@ctg3.com Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 12:59 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Autoreply: Wireless Digest, Vol 31, Issue 10 Greetings. I will be out of the office (Salmon fishing) July 12th and back on Tuesday. If your matter is urgent: For quote requests, send email to quo...@ctg3.com Additional support contacts: Bethany Crowell - (206) 383-8938 - bcrow...@ctg3.com Marti Perkins - (360) 425-1212 - ma...@ctg3.com Amy Matthews - (206) 245-3735 - a...@ctg3.com Heather Adams - (971) 207-5758 - heat...@ctg3.com Margaret Johnson - (253) 639-9536 - marga...@ctg3.com Beth Nichols - (509)838-1404 - b...@ctg3.com Gene Cleary - 206-686-3750 - g...@ctg3.com Dave Laskowski CTG3 - Senior Partner 425-458-4070 Voice 425-696-1337 Fax d...@ctg3.com www.ctg3.com --- PS: Always send pricing requests to quo...@ctg3.com for the fastest response --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Autoreply: Wireless Digest, Vol 31, Issue 10
the new breed of linksys (cisco) seems to be better,Hope it ends the cycle(literally) Doubt it,keep on keepin on! --- On Sun, 7/11/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Autoreply: Wireless Digest, Vol 31, Issue 10 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Date: Sunday, July 11, 2010, 9:32 PM Nice. But that’s been how my day has gone. 5 calls with the fix being POWER CYCLE YOUR ROUTER! I turned off the cell. Bob- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Bailey Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 9:21 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Autoreply: Wireless Digest, Vol 31, Issue 10 Tell me about it,I'm still getting calls at this time of night because i pulled a plug to install ups. --- On Sun, 7/11/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Autoreply: Wireless Digest, Vol 31, Issue 10 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Date: Sunday, July 11, 2010, 9:18 PM I hate you. Just so ya know. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of d...@ctg3.com Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 12:59 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Autoreply: Wireless Digest, Vol 31, Issue 10 Greetings. I will be out of the office (Salmon fishing) July 12th and back on Tuesday. If your matter is urgent: For quote requests, send email to quo...@ctg3.com Additional support contacts: Bethany Crowell - (206) 383-8938 - bcrow...@ctg3.com Marti Perkins - (360) 425-1212 - ma...@ctg3.com Amy Matthews - (206) 245-3735 - a...@ctg3.com Heather Adams - (971) 207-5758 - heat...@ctg3.com Margaret Johnson - (253) 639-9536 - marga...@ctg3.com Beth Nichols - (509)838-1404 - b...@ctg3.com Gene Cleary - 206-686-3750 - g...@ctg3.com Dave Laskowski CTG3 - Senior Partner 425-458-4070 Voice 425-696-1337 Fax d...@ctg3.com www.ctg3.com --- PS: Always send pricing requests to quo...@ctg3.com for the fastest response --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -Inline Attachment Follows- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not healthcare, taxes or government related.........
THANKS for changing the subjectCheck out MTI...worth the extra --- On Thu, 4/29/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Subject: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not healthcare, taxes or government related. To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:02 PM I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs. I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's deserved. Thanks. Bob- The cheap SOB WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not healthcare, taxes or government related.........
Also look at ubnt,They are coming out with 900 and 3.65 in the second quarter of 2010...H,isn't this the second quarter??? :) --- On Thu, 4/29/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Subject: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not healthcare, taxes or government related. To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:02 PM I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs. I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's deserved. Thanks. Bob- The cheap SOB WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........
I have been waiting to see this discussionso I started it! I know the schedule and I'm anxious to see it.It will come,and when it does it will shake the market up!IMHO we need that!.Jason For now,MTI expensive..GET what you pay for. --- On Thu, 4/29/10, Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com wrote: From: Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:22 PM There are two more months in the 2nd quarter, they said in the last week they are still on target. Ubiquiti seems to come out with the products fine, they just don't get enough of it out into the pipeline to meet demand. Regards Michael Baird UBNT works on the Julian calendar. It's not their fault that you don't know how to convert. LOL! Thanks a bunch. I heard something aout them doing 900 sectors but nothing solid. Might be worth the wait. Like till 2013? Bob- - Original Message - From: Jason Baileyj284...@yahoo.com To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. Also look at ubnt,They are coming out with 900 and 3.65 in the second quarter of 2010...H,isn't this the second quarter??? :) --- On Thu, 4/29/10, Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: From: Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com Subject: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not healthcare, taxes or government related. To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:02 PM I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs. I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's deserved. Thanks. Bob- The cheap SOB WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........
http://www.ubnt.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19484 --- On Thu, 4/29/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:28 PM Are they also matching them up with a damn great super fantsitc, can't live without radio? Will they finally be taking that swing at Canopy we've been promised? Do tell! What's the scoop Bob- - Original Message - From: Jason Bailey j284...@yahoo.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:23 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. I have been waiting to see this discussionso I started it! I know the schedule and I'm anxious to see it.It will come,and when it does it will shake the market up!IMHO we need that!.Jason For now,MTI expensive..GET what you pay for. --- On Thu, 4/29/10, Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com wrote: From: Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:22 PM There are two more months in the 2nd quarter, they said in the last week they are still on target. Ubiquiti seems to come out with the products fine, they just don't get enough of it out into the pipeline to meet demand. Regards Michael Baird UBNT works on the Julian calendar. It's not their fault that you don't know how to convert. LOL! Thanks a bunch. I heard something aout them doing 900 sectors but nothing solid. Might be worth the wait. Like till 2013? Bob- - Original Message - From: Jason Baileyj284...@yahoo.com To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. Also look at ubnt,They are coming out with 900 and 3.65 in the second quarter of 2010...H,isn't this the second quarter??? :) --- On Thu, 4/29/10, Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: From: Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com Subject: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not healthcare, taxes or government related. To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:02 PM I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs. I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's deserved. Thanks. Bob- The cheap SOB WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)
like! --- On Thu, 4/29/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town) To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 10:42 PM I've never had law enforcement happy with me so that's nothing new. But ever since I've joined the Presidents Club at my local bail bondsman, it's all good. Every tenth bail is free. Bob- - Original Message - From: Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 10:22 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town) They may do that anyway. I have been dealing with different aspects of law enforcement for years and it seems like they are never happy. Then you have the officers that will not want the stuff in their cars to start with. Somehow that will be your fault to. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 29, 2010, at 9:09 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: I've got a town that currently uses Sprint cards but they suck due to poor coverage. They have water tanks and other resource for me to put AP's on but I want to use something robust enough that they dont tar feather for poor relaibility! On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Yep! Had one for over a year or so. Love it, never use it And here is why.. It's the older PCMCIA slot config. The new laptops are the express card. My everyday laptop is newer, no PCMCIA slot. Have to break out the old Toshiba to use the thing The antenna clips to the screen. Gets in the way. I did, however, use to use a magnetic mount on the roof and run a cable into the truck to a MMCX connector to snap into the card. worked darned well. lots of wires though. What I ended up doing was put a Mikrotik R52H card in the laptops to an SMA conector I installed in the laptop. Works much, much better and I can use either the SMA if I want to put a big antenna on it or it will use the internal laptop antenna. The bonus is that it's cheaper to go that route. So it sits in the toolbox. Bob- - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:37 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town) Has or does anyone use the Ubiquiti solution for this? http://ubnt.com/src -RickG On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: I have 100 police car deployment using alvarion that roams over multiple towers with static IP addresses. Expensive but it works day in and day out. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 29, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: We are working on a project for a small town in rural Oklahoma for mobile broadband in 7 police units. Would anyone that has successfully completed such a project mind giving us some advice to start. Thanks Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e- mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today!
Re: [WISPA] Satellite Internet Providers
Google Idirect,Good service. --- On Sat, 4/24/10, Dan Ferguson d...@kyes.com wrote: From: Dan Ferguson d...@kyes.com Subject: [WISPA] Satellite Internet Providers To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Saturday, April 24, 2010, 6:41 PM Hello, I am looking for suggestions for shared satellite Internet providers which can service Alaska. It's painfully expensive and we are looking for options to get more bandwidth. Thanks, - Dan WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Today I fied a customer and I liked it! WAS An Old Woman
I thought I was the only one who spent many hours on the phone to get them back on the sat connection after convincing them they have a wireless router of thier ownMade the mistake of offering service and now they think it's a scam! How many hours should one spend on the phone with a non-customer? --- On Thu, 4/22/10, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: From: Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Today I fied a customer and I liked it! WAS An Old Woman To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 11:14 PM Thats funny, but we can relate. I like the one where the people call and tell us we hijacked their computer and we can't do that and how they are going to call (whoever). The only page their computer can open is our hotspot page cause no matter where they go they get redirected to our friendly *pay here* page. We nicely explain that no that is not the case and obviously they are unable to operate their computer properly, but we can help. Its their next words that cause a sudden cease of communication or a walk through of how to disconnect from an access point... Their choice :) I've seen it go both ways more than once... Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 11:03 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Today I fied a customer and I liked it! WAS An Old Woman Regretfully no. I went the other route, was so overly nice and respectful (Almost to the edge of sarcasim) I'm sure they felt like total jerks, or at least normal folk would. A big smile on my face and a saws-all in my hand. But I was worked up, I can tell ya that. Bob- - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 10:59 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Today I fied a customer and I liked it! WAS An Old Woman Did you actually tell them YOUR FIRED ??? Congrats if you did, I know we've all wanted to do that at times to certain customers... Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 9:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Today I fied a customer and I liked it! WAS An Old Woman Ah... But it got better today. This customer was the ONLY one on a very NEW AP. Teenage grandson begged and begged to be installed. I never install a paying customer until I test and test and tweak with a volunteer and it's perfect and near bullet proof. But Josh begs and I bend the rules. Told my cousin, who was my volunteer, I'd be back after I get this kid all fixed up. So I go to boys house. Lives with grandparents. The place is like a postcard. Very unbelievably anal. Calculations put me 20 feet up for bottom of Fresnel. Grandpa says Nope, can't put it on the house. (2 story, tall place) No antenna tower... Well too bad then. But Josh, 15, makes the sad story to me so I bend again and spring for a 4 foot hole, 6 bags of cement, 40 foot mast, ect.. Way out back behind the shed. Tell them all it will take probably a week to get it all set to be perfect. Well here it is, been a week. Of course, grandma yells at me last night, has a big attitude. Today, boy calls, Internet not working Attitude again. (I'm monitoring all day, problem is obviously is with his PC) I remind him that old man said no house mount (has a very nice big chimney to clam on to) and I was monitoring the signal all day today, and I was. Has a -74 ALL DAY! He's 7 miles out with trees But still very good signal. So teen boy, Josh tells me Grandpa said that if you don't come out right now to fix it you need to come tomorrow and take everything out including the pole because it's UNRELIABLE Oppps! Said the wrong thing. I closed the store, went home and picked up my saws all, drove out... Pulled out the big cable cutters Josh boy comes over on his ATV What ya think is wrong? I say... I'm sorry, grandpa says we're unreliable so I'm just gonna help you all out and take it all down. Deer eyes in the headlights. Bluff called. Cut the cable, took down top section. Grandpa comes out. Sorry we weren't reliable sir, I told you it would take about a week but I don't want to cause you anymore pain. Uh, uh, uh... He says. Sawsall. Last section. Josh, can you go get me the power injector and power supply? Okay... In and out. YOU'RE FIRED! I'm working on a clause in our terms of service concerning Unreasonable Customers. From now on, I reserve the right to fire
Re: [WISPA] Broadband Fiasco Followup
Big Brother is listening...S! lol:) --- On Tue, 4/13/10, Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.com wrote: From: Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.com Subject: [WISPA] Broadband Fiasco Followup To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org, nnsq...@nnsquad.org, Telecom Regulation the Internet cyberteleco...@listserv.aol.com Date: Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 6:50 PM Apparently my tirade about broadband mapping reached a few ears in Washington, as the NE PSC called me this afternoon to let me know that the NTIA is willing to accept shape files and is willing to relax some of the data requirements in order to get fuller representation from WISPs. Making ourselves heard and showing a willingness to be part of the solution is the first step to getting better results. Here is a copy of the email that I sent to the Nebraska PSC today with my followup comments. Other commentary and discussion regarding this is available at Wireless Cowboys http://www.wirelesscowboys.com/ Matt Larsen vistabeam.com I am writing with further comments and concerns about the Nebraska Broadband Mapping Initiative. After participating in the conference call about the mapping program yesterday, I was left with several concerns. My first concern is about the accuracy of the data that will be collected. The number of providers that have not responded to the NDA request and/or the data request is very high, and that means that there will be substantial inaccuracies in the final dataset that will make the final results of the project flawed. A dataset that only includes 20-50% of the total data needed could lead to policy decisions that could have an adverse affect on the smaller providers that cover otherwise unserved areas by encouraging government supported overbuilds. This would be wasteful of taxpayer money and could put many of the smaller providers out of business, causing a net loss of jobs and the loss of broadband service to customers of those smaller providers. It is critical that most if not all of the broadband providers in the state be represented in this project. The attitude that the state contractor appears to have is that non respondents will simply not be included. I would hope that this attitude will change to be more inclusive of the smaller, non-wireline providers who do not have the ability to generate the requested data easily. My second concern is about the data that is being requested. The data request template is asking for a lot of data that I don't feel comfortable divulging to any outside entities, including customer addresses, GPS coordinates and frequencies used on our towers and the anchor institutions that we serve. Many of the other WISPs that I work with are also not comfortable turning this information over to an outside party, even with the NDA. After several discussions with other experts in the mapping and data collection field, I have come to the conclusion that the mapping requirements would be effectively served by delivering the GIS shape files of our coverage areas along with a summary of subscribers in each census block. I have already delivered the requested shape files showing our coverage, and am working toward the census block summaries. If the data requirements could be adjusted so that this information would be suitable, I believe that you would get more response from the smaller providers. My third concern is about the cost for smaller, non-wireline providers to collect the data. While most wireline providers already have shape files and geocoding information already collected and available, many wireless providers do not have this information readily available and do not have the tools or technical knowledge to get this information collected within the requested time frame. Committing man hours to do this in-house or bring in outside assistance places an undue financial burden on providers that are often self-funded and would prefer to invest that money into their networks. The grant was given to the PSC, not the providers, and yet we are being asked to spend our time and money to get this information together. Coming up with a way to help provide the manpower and financial assistance necessary to collect this information would provide a win-win situation for the providers and the PSC and increase the amount of data collected. Finally, I believe that more effective outreach could be established with the providers so that the comfort level is higher. Sending an email with a large data request and a short deadline for response is not going to be received well. A series of emails with detailed explanations of the program's purposes and benefits to providers, an intelligently designed website with progress reports and followup phone calls to the providers who have not returned the information would go over much better. WISPs have not been required to collect this information up to this point and there is no mandate
Re: [WISPA] Broadband Fiasco Followup
They have been monitoring wisp chatter for years!!:) --- On Tue, 4/13/10, Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com wrote: From: Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Broadband Fiasco Followup To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Date: Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 8:23 PM Big brother (my friend at the NTIA) should be subscribed to this list now :-) Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Bailey Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 7:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Broadband Fiasco Followup Big Brother is listening...S! lol:) --- On Tue, 4/13/10, Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.com wrote: From: Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.com Subject: [WISPA] Broadband Fiasco Followup To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org, nnsq...@nnsquad.org, Telecom Regulation the Internet cyberteleco...@listserv.aol.com Date: Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 6:50 PM Apparently my tirade about broadband mapping reached a few ears in Washington, as the NE PSC called me this afternoon to let me know that the NTIA is willing to accept shape files and is willing to relax some of the data requirements in order to get fuller representation from WISPs. Making ourselves heard and showing a willingness to be part of the solution is the first step to getting better results. Here is a copy of the email that I sent to the Nebraska PSC today with my followup comments. Other commentary and discussion regarding this is available at Wireless Cowboys http://www.wirelesscowboys.com/ Matt Larsen vistabeam.com I am writing with further comments and concerns about the Nebraska Broadband Mapping Initiative. After participating in the conference call about the mapping program yesterday, I was left with several concerns. My first concern is about the accuracy of the data that will be collected. The number of providers that have not responded to the NDA request and/or the data request is very high, and that means that there will be substantial inaccuracies in the final dataset that will make the final results of the project flawed. A dataset that only includes 20-50% of the total data needed could lead to policy decisions that could have an adverse affect on the smaller providers that cover otherwise unserved areas by encouraging government supported overbuilds. This would be wasteful of taxpayer money and could put many of the smaller providers out of business, causing a net loss of jobs and the loss of broadband service to customers of those smaller providers. It is critical that most if not all of the broadband providers in the state be represented in this project. The attitude that the state contractor appears to have is that non respondents will simply not be included. I would hope that this attitude will change to be more inclusive of the smaller, non-wireline providers who do not have the ability to generate the requested data easily. My second concern is about the data that is being requested. The data request template is asking for a lot of data that I don't feel comfortable divulging to any outside entities, including customer addresses, GPS coordinates and frequencies used on our towers and the anchor institutions that we serve. Many of the other WISPs that I work with are also not comfortable turning this information over to an outside party, even with the NDA. After several discussions with other experts in the mapping and data collection field, I have come to the conclusion that the mapping requirements would be effectively served by delivering the GIS shape files of our coverage areas along with a summary of subscribers in each census block. I have already delivered the requested shape files showing our coverage, and am working toward the census block summaries. If the data requirements could be adjusted so that this information would be suitable, I believe that you would get more response from the smaller providers. My third concern is about the cost for smaller, non-wireline providers to collect the data. While most wireline providers already have shape files and geocoding information already collected and available, many wireless providers do not have this information readily available and do not have the tools or technical knowledge to get this information collected within the requested time frame. Committing man hours to do this in-house or bring in outside assistance places an undue financial burden on providers that are often self-funded and would prefer to invest that money into their networks. The grant was given to the PSC, not the providers, and yet we are being asked to spend our time and money to get this information together. Coming up with a way to help provide the manpower and financial assistance necessary to collect this information would provide a win-win situation for the providers and the PSC
Re: [WISPA] Building Heights?
WOW!!! what pain this will save..What other things will they come up with before taking over the planet? --- On Tue, 3/30/10, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Building Heights? To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 2:58 PM Hopefully this does not disrupt the space-time continuum. http://tinyurl.com/5wf7s4 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: Hey, I like that. How did you do that? Mike -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 12:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Building Heights? LinkPlanner http://tinyurl.com/ygt43e4 Wispmon http://tinyurl.com/yl427nd Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.comwrote: Could I get the actual URL on LinkPlanner and WispMon On 3/30/2010 8:07 AM, jp wrote: Use the profiler on here: http://www.heywhatsthat.com/ The website author made it usable for wireless for us. He'll do custom sites that show only your tower locations too if you want. On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 04:42:27PM -0700, Forbes Mercy wrote: Wouldn't it be cool if when using Google Earth you could draw a straight line between two points and it would calculate the altitude of each origin point then mark in red any place where altitude is higher than the beginning and end points along the line? For long legs in mixed altitude areas that would really be nice. Forbes On 3/29/2010 1:12 PM, Jim Patient wrote: Well, it prolly isn't good every place but I just selected 3d buildings on google earth and drug my mouse from the street to top of Met Square in St Louis. It shows the elevation at street level and the top of the building. The difference is the elevation of the building height in this case. Jim On 3/29/2010 2:03 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: Not for free. This info is usually pretty expensive for good high res data. That being said, one interesting flaw in the SRTM data is that is contains building canopy within the data. The radar they used bounced off man made structures and make them appear to be part of the terrain. So, in big cities, or even small ones in core areas, if you are running propagation plots, you would not want to add additional building heights. If you want the most accurate results, I suggest 10m DEM's (where available) with a good set of building elevation data (the expensive stuff). If you are just looking to run propagation plots for your unlicensed network, The SRTM data is probably good enough. Cameron On 3/29/2010 12:07 PM, Charles Hooper wrote: Hello, Does anyone know a reliable source/method of getting building heights? Something like a topographical map that included buildings would be excellent, but I haven't been able to find anything like this. Thanks! Charles WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Make a profit with lower pricing? Was: how tocompete with $15 DSL
Bob,what a great tool!When grandma comes in and says..Facebook is running so slow???Well,for customers such as yourself,we offer this High-Speed option,let me tell you about it,and btwyou can set-up recurring payments to make your life easier!!!Were here to help you --- On Thu, 3/25/10, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Make a profit with lower pricing? Was: how tocompete with $15 DSL To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 9:36 PM Bob, Not putting you down but it depends on your circumstances. If you want walk-in traffic and to spend time on a $5.99/month account then great. For me, I'd rather work on high dollar accounts. What works for some, may not work for others. Thats what makes the world go round! On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Patrick Leary ple...@apertonet.com wrote: Love it. Good stuff and very savvy. Patrick Leary Aperto Networks 813.426.4230 mobile -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:20 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Make a profit with lower pricing? Was: how tocompete with $15 DSL We've been selling a loss leader dial up service for $5.99 for 10 years now. We don't lose anything and only make a couple of bucks per user but we get the payback on the backend. The 5.99 service, they have to come into our retail store to sign up for it and to pay the bill. No online or phone payments. Made a lot of customers that way who give us cash for other services since they have to see us anyway. We still have over 200 dial up customers and every month those 200 have to come in and see our smiling faces. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Make a profit with lower pricing? Was: how to compete with $15 DSL I'm sure they dont. For me, I dont pay attention to the cheap advertised prices. For others, I suspect that what they do is compare pricing and get a relative feeling for a benchmark. Of course, they also compare features benefits then choose the laptop that fits their needs and/or budget. With all due respect, I dont see much correlation between internet service (monthly service) and purchasing a laptop (one time purchase). I tried to offer a low, loss leader a while back as a test and the ones who took it never upgraded. I dont see any reason to offer it but then I'm fortunate not to have any competition. On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: A very well known example.. Dell. Dell advertises $400.00 systems and laptops. Anyone here ever end up with one at the advertised price? Probably not many. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:55 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Make a profit with lower pricing? Was: how to compete with $15 DSL We start at 29 bucks. The way I think, you always need the bait to bring them in, such as a low price. It's all sales after that. Bump up to a higher tier, equipment insurance, service call plan... etc. On the face of it, we look very inexpensive but the customer almost always elects to upgrade or add on something. My favorite is a customer who calls about the $29.00 plan but ends up asking Do you have anything faster? (Big Smile) Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:21 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Make a profit with lower pricing? Was: how to compete with $15 DSL But what is your ARPU? On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 12:02 AM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: Hi, I have packages starting at $29.95/month and I'm quite profitable... have been for over 12 years now... :) Travis Microserv RickG wrote: Bob, We do the same here. Day one ROI upon installation. Not having any problems getting customers, In fact, we're growing faster than we ever have. Of course, there is a lot more to the cost of operating than just ROI upon install. Our lowest plan is $49.99/month. Which is the reason I responded to Jayson's post: Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: $24.95/mo gets you 12Mbps/6Mbps. $49.95/mo gets you 20Mbps/6Mbps. We guarantee minimums--not just an up to speed I'm always game to learn something. Every business model I've ever done only shows profit at $50/month ARPU. I'm just wondering if where I'm going wrong. -RickG On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Using
Re: [WISPA] Ham Fest
As a ham,i will say Dayton rocks,There are all kinds of deals a ham or wisp can love!!!Just be sure you have cash and alot of time on your hands! --- On Thu, 3/25/10, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ham Fest To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 10:27 PM I've never been because it's so close. I may end up going this year. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:18 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I got invited from a good friend to go to Ham Fest in Dayton in May. Anyone else going? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Make a profit with lower pricing? Was: how tocompete with $15 DSL
Hmmm,good point,I guess it works both ways,I think it is that way everywhere.Not sure what market Bob is working,I guess it depends if he has competition.Either way,well put Rick..One must remember to look at both sides! --- On Thu, 3/25/10, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Make a profit with lower pricing? Was: how tocompete with $15 DSL To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 10:29 PM Around here they would call and say cancel my account, you're internet is slow and I switched to DSL or cable. And then I'd say but you can have faster if you buy our... click - lost connection. No second chances around here. Give them speed and reliability or they switch in a heartbeat. I just picked up a bunch of subs because Windstream DSL is slow and unreliaible. They need to replace the 100+ year old lines. Windstream even offered free months etc. Everyone that can get our service switched without hesitation even with a $200 install fee. On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Jason Bailey j284...@yahoo.com wrote: Bob,what a great tool!When grandma comes in and says..Facebook is running so slow???Well,for customers such as yourself,we offer this High-Speed option,let me tell you about it,and btwyou can set-up recurring payments to make your life easier!!!Were here to help you --- On Thu, 3/25/10, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Make a profit with lower pricing? Was: how tocompete with $15 DSL To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 9:36 PM Bob, Not putting you down but it depends on your circumstances. If you want walk-in traffic and to spend time on a $5.99/month account then great. For me, I'd rather work on high dollar accounts. What works for some, may not work for others. Thats what makes the world go round! On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Patrick Leary ple...@apertonet.com wrote: Love it. Good stuff and very savvy. Patrick Leary Aperto Networks 813.426.4230 mobile -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:20 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Make a profit with lower pricing? Was: how tocompete with $15 DSL We've been selling a loss leader dial up service for $5.99 for 10 years now. We don't lose anything and only make a couple of bucks per user but we get the payback on the backend. The 5.99 service, they have to come into our retail store to sign up for it and to pay the bill. No online or phone payments. Made a lot of customers that way who give us cash for other services since they have to see us anyway. We still have over 200 dial up customers and every month those 200 have to come in and see our smiling faces. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Make a profit with lower pricing? Was: how to compete with $15 DSL I'm sure they dont. For me, I dont pay attention to the cheap advertised prices. For others, I suspect that what they do is compare pricing and get a relative feeling for a benchmark. Of course, they also compare features benefits then choose the laptop that fits their needs and/or budget. With all due respect, I dont see much correlation between internet service (monthly service) and purchasing a laptop (one time purchase). I tried to offer a low, loss leader a while back as a test and the ones who took it never upgraded. I dont see any reason to offer it but then I'm fortunate not to have any competition. On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: A very well known example.. Dell. Dell advertises $400.00 systems and laptops. Anyone here ever end up with one at the advertised price? Probably not many. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:55 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Make a profit with lower pricing? Was: how to compete with $15 DSL We start at 29 bucks. The way I think, you always need the bait to bring them in, such as a low price. It's all sales after that. Bump up to a higher tier, equipment insurance, service call plan... etc. On the face of it, we look very inexpensive but the customer almost always elects to upgrade or add on something. My favorite is a customer who calls about the $29.00 plan but ends up asking Do you have anything faster? (Big Smile) Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent
Re: [WISPA] Tower Mounts
Save some money and go tessco,or a local fab shop?Been dealing with tessco for over 10 years and very happy! --- On Fri, 3/19/10, lakel...@gbcx.net lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: From: lakel...@gbcx.net lakel...@gbcx.net Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower Mounts To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Friday, March 19, 2010, 9:18 PM www.sitepro1.com Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:48:22 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Tower Mounts We are planning on opening up a few new towers and will have limited space vertically, I'm looking for a source for sidearms to mount my sector antennas on. The new towers are A-Frames, and I need to extend out from the tower probably at 2'-3' away. I'd like to hear what others use for this sort of thing and what vendors I can look to for products to fit our needs. Regards Michael Baird WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] NPR Story on FCC Broadband Plan and Internet Access in Trinity County California
As much as i hate to admit it...We still service/install hughesnet and idirect sat services.If I can help you i will,been at it almost 12 years. --- On Tue, 3/16/10, Tim Sylvester t...@avanzarnetworks.com wrote: From: Tim Sylvester t...@avanzarnetworks.com Subject: [WISPA] NPR Story on FCC Broadband Plan and Internet Access in Trinity County California To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Date: Tuesday, March 16, 2010, 6:52 PM On Monday, NPR aired a story on the FCC Broadband Plan and Internet access in Trinity County California. The story by Laura Sydell was in anticipation of the FCC Broadband Plan today and profiled Trinity County, a rural county in northern California. You can read/listen to the story at: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124703744 I have a few technical/business questions for the group. The story talks about Brunt Ranch Elementary School with 92 students that paid $50,000 for a satellite Internet connection. The school is not happy with the cost and the connection does not work reliably. The school doesn't have much money and only has 20 computers. Putting aside the questions about who should pay for the connection and why an elementary school needs Internet, here are my questions: 1. What type of satellite Internet connection costs $50,000? 2. Does anyone have experience deploying satellite Internet access? How much does it cost and how reliable is the service? 3. Does anyone have experience with Hughes Networks satellite Internet service? I exchanged e-mail with a Hughes rep and they offer 5Mbps business class Internet service for $399/month using a .98M dish. You can pay $28/month for 7x24 on-site service and $20/month for 5 static IP addresses. The story also talks about ATT fiber that runs through the county but ATT won't connect anyone in the county to the fiber. ATT claims that the fiber is not engineered for local feeds. A local ISP has requested to tap into the fiber to provide Internet access in the area. My questions are: 4. What does not engineered for local feeds mean? Is it possible that the fiber is for a long haul connection and it would be very expensive or impossible to connect Trinity County to the fiber? Is ATT telling the truth, outright lying or lazy? Finally, many people in the group have used microwave links for backhaul to rural areas. In a worst case scenario, Trinity County might be able to connect to fiber deployed CENIC. CENIC is a non-profit organization that connects educational and research institutions in California. CENIC has fiber in Corning which is 100 miles from Weaverville, the county seat for Trinity County. My questions are: 5. What would it cost to deploy a 100 mile microwave link between Corning and Weaverville with a minimum of 50Mbps of bandwidth but preferably 100Mbps or 1Gbps? Yes, there are many variables but assume worst case. In general, would this work and what is ballpark/order of magnitude pricing for this link? Are we talking about $500K, $1M, $5M, $10M or $50M?? What is the longest microwave link deployed by Clearwire for backhaul? Thanks, Tim -- Tim Sylvester Avanzar Networks (408) 826-8350 (o) (408) 334-1700 (m) t...@avanzarnetworks.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.4 legal ptp radios
list of frequencys per site.anyone? --- On Mon, 3/15/10, Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com wrote: From: Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 legal ptp radios To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Monday, March 15, 2010, 12:38 PM Ignore my question - I've been out of the office and didn't read the responses that already answered it. On 3/15/2010 10:27 AM, Randy Cosby wrote: Excellent news. Do you know if there is an easy way now to see where the TDWR radars are (for curiosity's sake)? Randy On 3/11/2010 3:56 PM, Jack Unger wrote: Randy, The 5 GHz equipment approval process is currently on hold at the request of the FAA and the NTIA. Airport Terminal Doppler Weather Radars (TDWR) operate in the 5.6 GHz range and have been experiencing interference from current 5475-5725 MHz equipment. Because of this interference, a new Dynamic Frequency Selection (DFS) algorithm is being developed to allow newly-certified equipment to detect and avoid nearby TDWR radar systems. Until the new algorithm is developed and the FCC certification process re-started, there will be no new outdoor 5.4 equipment certified. To allow recertifications to restart before the new algorithm is developed and implemented, the wireless industry has been meeting with the FCC, FAA and NTIA. The FAA and NTIA agreed to allow 5 GHz outdoor equipment certifications to be restarted if the industry would provide a database that allowed an operator to a) See if their outdoor base stations are within 35 km of one of the airport TDWR sites, and b) If within 35 km, voluntarily register their equipment type and contact information in the database. Each airport TDWR site uses one frequency. Operators are requested to maintain a minimum 30-MHz center-to-center frequency separation away from the single frequency used by the neighboring TDWR. If/when TDWR interference does occurs, the voluntary database should help the FCC to contact the operator of the equipment that may be causing the interference and request a frequency change or request that the one nearby TDWR frequency be excluded from the DFS channel search list. Once the new TDWR-aware algorithm is ready for incorporation into new 5 GHz equipment, this database is expected to slowly become obsolete as the older equipment is retired. WISPA's FCC Committee is working with the industry group (Motorola, Cisco, Atheros, Intel, etc.) as well as with the FCC, FAA and NTIA to help find a solution to this TDWR-interference problem. We'll provide more information when significant developments occur. Jack Unger WISPA FCC Committee Chair 818-227-4220 Randy Cosby wrote: I'm trying to compile a list of options for FCC certified 5.4 ptp radios for short backhaul links. Off the top of my head, I can remember: Tranzeo TR-5A Trango TrangoLINK-45 Radwin 2000 (has mimo as well) Motorola PTP 100, 200, 300, 500, 600 Any others I'm not aware of? Sure would be nice to see more mimo/N radios certified in 5.4. Anyone working through the approval process (ligowave?). -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 http://www.infowest.com/ Letting off steam always produces more heat than light. - Neal A. Maxwell WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Your experiences - RB750/RB750G Durability
As a ran out of job by nextel moto radio tech,the problems generated can be a simple harmonic,but ,neverthless!most departments operate vhf analog systems,and cannot justify digital systems...they suck!! and are very expensive!!and I as a wisp know that if i were causing harmful interference to my local vol/paid department,my customers would understand me shutting down the computer ...if it meant saving a life...and this is real world stuff!!!Just remember one thing,,a wisp needs networking pro's...i am not one..but i am a real world rf guy,and the most important thing in the world is that the two-tone dispatch reaches our crew in time to save my house...or my family..Please take seriously any possible rf concerns,as they may affect the life of someone you may/may not knowJason --- On Tue, 3/16/10, Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com wrote: From: Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Your experiences - RB750/RB750G Durability To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tuesday, March 16, 2010, 12:09 AM Having worked for a major metro EMS service, as well as a major metro Fire service, as well as presently being the Chief of a rural department, and president of our local Chiefs association, I can tell you - you are a dick. But I digress. Lots of volunteer fire departments out there are doing tremendous jobs, espically in the rural world where they cannot afford the money to have paid people. Saving property, saving lives. Judging from your comment about being on digital yet, I presume you think that is the thing. NFPA, as well as many other fire service groups are warning NOT to go digital yet, at least for fireground purposes at a minimum, due to the issues with digital vocoders. Have a nice day. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 10:24 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Your experiences - RB750/RB750G Durability Being an old EMS and Fire Chief I can tell you - chances are it could be their cruddy equipment. Its obvious they are not on digital yet... I could tell you some really big horror stories from my EMS days ... Volunteer Dept's are even more fun (done both sides of the fence) If you really want to pick his britches... next time your there pick up the phone and dial 390 ask for a volunteer carpenter ... then dial 829 and ask for a volunteer plumber... finally dial 911 and ask for a volunteer Fire Fighter... (ok bad joke) I love the volunteers - they are what made every department I was part of so great... without them - the departments imho are worthless... but it sure is fun to get that volly chief all up in a tiffy ! ;-) Now - if we could only get our equipment to push tones out - we could have some real fun.. and page them any time of the day.. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app
BIG surprise!!!notice near the bottom of the page..windows 7 sells 90 million copies already!!!get used to the extra clicks to get to things!!btw, I run a Blackberry,no use for iphone...just use logmein or your fav vpn and a laptop.Life is easy!! --- On Tue, 3/16/10, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tuesday, March 16, 2010, 1:09 AM http://www.quickpwn.com/ Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 1:04 AM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote: any recommendations on the best jailbreak program? I used Backra1n and it ran fine for a couple of weeks then crashed for no apparent reason. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 8:34 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app Jerry, Yes you need to jailbreak. Jailbreaking basically gives you access to the underlying OS rather then being tied to the pretty skined app on top of it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: how do you access the shell? do I need to jailbreak ? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 11, 2010, at 1:58 PM, Sales sa...@michianawireless.com wrote: Hmm I just goto my iPhones command line via shell and type ssh ipaddress works like a charm. John Buwa Michiana Wireless,Inc 574-233-7170 Sent from my iPhone On Mar 11, 2010, at 4:54 PM, Data Technology w...@dtisp.com wrote: I know in the last couple of weeks there was a discussion about an ssh app for the iPhone. I did not save the emails because I thought I would never need something like because I don't have an iPhone. But, I bought an iPhone last night and now I am looking for an ssh app. I have found iSSH and the reviews are good about it. I know that $7.99 for an app is a lot of money but if this is the one to have then I don't mind spending the money. This also appears to have a vnc client as well. Any input as far as SSH utilities or any other iPhone apps for WISP operations would be appreciated. LaRoy McCann Data Technology --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Your experiences - RB750/RB750G Durability
Good advice,Our ham radio community is very good at fox hunting(finding hidden transmitters)We jump quickly to find any form of interference to any of our public safety bands...I'm sure you have others in your area?Befriend them,they can be your best friend! --- On Tue, 3/16/10, char...@knownelement.com char...@knownelement.com wrote: From: char...@knownelement.com char...@knownelement.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Your experiences - RB750/RB750G Durability To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tuesday, March 16, 2010, 1:23 AM Interfering with emergency comm is a sure way to generate a very fast response from local law enforcement. Do it in a major metro area and the FBI shows up. Seize gear, ask questions later. Its very serious stuff and is taken quite seriously by law enforcement. Take the time to understand the regs and make sure you operate within them. That's it. I know many on this list strive to do so, and are anal about it. Keep it up. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Jason Bailey j284...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:20:02 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Your experiences - RB750/RB750G Durability As a ran out of job by nextel moto radio tech,the problems generated can be a simple harmonic,but ,neverthless!most departments operate vhf analog systems,and cannot justify digital systems...they suck!! and are very expensive!!and I as a wisp know that if i were causing harmful interference to my local vol/paid department,my customers would understand me shutting down the computer ...if it meant saving a life...and this is real world stuff!!!Just remember one thing,,a wisp needs networking pro's...i am not one..but i am a real world rf guy,and the most important thing in the world is that the two-tone dispatch reaches our crew in time to save my house...or my family..Please take seriously any possible rf concerns,as they may affect the life of someone you may/may not knowJason --- On Tue, 3/16/10, Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com wrote: From: Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Your experiences - RB750/RB750G Durability To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tuesday, March 16, 2010, 12:09 AM Having worked for a major metro EMS service, as well as a major metro Fire service, as well as presently being the Chief of a rural department, and president of our local Chiefs association, I can tell you - you are a dick. But I digress. Lots of volunteer fire departments out there are doing tremendous jobs, espically in the rural world where they cannot afford the money to have paid people. Saving property, saving lives. Judging from your comment about being on digital yet, I presume you think that is the thing. NFPA, as well as many other fire service groups are warning NOT to go digital yet, at least for fireground purposes at a minimum, due to the issues with digital vocoders. Have a nice day. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 10:24 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Your experiences - RB750/RB750G Durability Being an old EMS and Fire Chief I can tell you - chances are it could be their cruddy equipment. Its obvious they are not on digital yet... I could tell you some really big horror stories from my EMS days ... Volunteer Dept's are even more fun (done both sides of the fence) If you really want to pick his britches... next time your there pick up the phone and dial 390 ask for a volunteer carpenter ... then dial 829 and ask for a volunteer plumber... finally dial 911 and ask for a volunteer Fire Fighter... (ok bad joke) I love the volunteers - they are what made every department I was part of so great... without them - the departments imho are worthless... but it sure is fun to get that volly chief all up in a tiffy ! ;-) Now - if we could only get our equipment to push tones out - we could have some real fun.. and page them any time of the day.. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http
Re: [WISPA] Here comes the really BIG WAVE
Freedom...I'm feeding the trolls...hate to see anyone hungry?I never post this much,but i love watching this list and about to join $$$ with wispa.All keep it up...feeding the trolls! --- On Tue, 3/16/10, Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com wrote: From: Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Here comes the really BIG WAVE To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tuesday, March 16, 2010, 1:31 AM can you name me one thing that the government has given that it has not first taken? funny I keep asking - but never given an answer. Im with you MDK On Mar 16, 2010, at 1:20 AM, MDK wrote: The really big wave of mass stupidity. I can't imagine how ANYONE would want Congress's or the FCC's fingers on ANYTHING. There is only ONE way to ensure that things get more expensive, cost us terribly, and work worse... and that's to put the people who know absolutely NOTHING about real life in charge Washington DC. Please name for me anything that Washington DC has done for us, that is not a disaster of Biblical proportions. You can't. Absolutely everything they try to do for us is so horrible it's beyond insane. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ -- From: Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 9:26 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; memb...@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Here comes the really BIG WAVE http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/13/business/media/13fcc.html?hp=adxnnl=1adxnnlx=1268486085-Jt93CAOuKUSJEQR/ZmVkzg -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Network Design - Technical Training - Technical Writing Serving the Broadband Wireless, Networking and Telecom Communities since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] here it come$
sad,but it reminds me of the post bb days,and from a wisp standpoint..i can appreciate it! --- On Fri, 3/12/10, Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com wrote: From: Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] here it come$ To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Friday, March 12, 2010, 9:13 PM http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/1984/picture3vs8.png And that is all I have to say about that... ryan On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote: Oh, don't suggest that! Every time someone suggests WISPA do some collective bargaining, someone cries that isn't what WISPA does... but no valid reason why it can't. Yes, I cry every time that WISPA should. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Tim Sylvester t...@avanzarnetworks.com Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 7:24 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] here it come$ I'm confused by this message. Are you saying you just heard of ESPN360? It has been around since 2007. How much do you think big bad ESPN charges for ESPN360? I have seen estimates between $0.05/sub/month to $0.25/sub/month. As far as I can tell, any ISP can contact ESPN and sign-up to offer ESPN360 to their subscribers. Here's a link to the current list of ISPs offering ESPN360: http://espn.go.com/broadband/espn360/affList. The list of providers ranges from ATT and Verizon each with over 10M subs. Down to the Spencer Iowa Municipal Utilities and Spruce Knob Seneca Rocks Telephone, each with a few thousand subs. The list includes cable, DSL and FTTH ISPs. The only thing that might prevent a WISP from offering ESPN360 is bandwidth. ESPN360 is just an add-on service that an ISP can bundle with their service offerings to customers. Think of it like offering e-mail accounts or web sites. In the mid 90s, ISPs had to pay to provide a TCP/IP stack and a web browser to their customers. If the WISPA members think ESPN360 would be a useful to offer their customers, have someone contact ESPN to see if you can negotiate an ESPN360 contract for all WISPA members. Tim -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 10:57 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] here it come$ The television content providers are going to bill ISP's? Try using ESPN Live 360 and see what it tells you. -RickG --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] here it come$
aol,prodigy,blue light...anyone remember??? --- On Fri, 3/12/10, Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com wrote: From: Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] here it come$ To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Friday, March 12, 2010, 9:13 PM http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/1984/picture3vs8.png And that is all I have to say about that... ryan On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote: Oh, don't suggest that! Every time someone suggests WISPA do some collective bargaining, someone cries that isn't what WISPA does... but no valid reason why it can't. Yes, I cry every time that WISPA should. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Tim Sylvester t...@avanzarnetworks.com Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 7:24 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] here it come$ I'm confused by this message. Are you saying you just heard of ESPN360? It has been around since 2007. How much do you think big bad ESPN charges for ESPN360? I have seen estimates between $0.05/sub/month to $0.25/sub/month. As far as I can tell, any ISP can contact ESPN and sign-up to offer ESPN360 to their subscribers. Here's a link to the current list of ISPs offering ESPN360: http://espn.go.com/broadband/espn360/affList. The list of providers ranges from ATT and Verizon each with over 10M subs. Down to the Spencer Iowa Municipal Utilities and Spruce Knob Seneca Rocks Telephone, each with a few thousand subs. The list includes cable, DSL and FTTH ISPs. The only thing that might prevent a WISP from offering ESPN360 is bandwidth. ESPN360 is just an add-on service that an ISP can bundle with their service offerings to customers. Think of it like offering e-mail accounts or web sites. In the mid 90s, ISPs had to pay to provide a TCP/IP stack and a web browser to their customers. If the WISPA members think ESPN360 would be a useful to offer their customers, have someone contact ESPN to see if you can negotiate an ESPN360 contract for all WISPA members. Tim -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 10:57 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] here it come$ The television content providers are going to bill ISP's? Try using ESPN Live 360 and see what it tells you. -RickG --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz sectors
Rick,I have done alot of digging and cannot find anything either on the -x. You may have lucked out and got some usable andrew sectors.I wish I could run into a deal like that!I was referring to my experience with most sectors in that range being x-pol for cell use,but before those days we did deploy those on some beach-side towers for moto privacy plus in 900. --- On Mon, 3/8/10, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz sectors To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Monday, March 8, 2010, 11:59 AM Even though the datasheet says v-pol? On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Jason Bailey j284...@yahoo.com wrote: from my experience the x means x-pol or 45 degree pol ,likely designed for iden 900? --- On Sun, 3/7/10, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz sectors To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Sunday, March 7, 2010, 7:57 PM Only thing I would be worried about is picking up interference in the 800 MHz range. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 7, 2010, at 6:43 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Label says 870MHz - 960 MHz, 90 degree, V-Pol. Part#DB844H90E-X. Cant find documents for the -X but -XY is attached. So, will they work with XR-9's? -RickG On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 12:14 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: I'll check those model numbers. If they are 45 degree units, can they still be used? -RickG On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 9:05 AM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Rick You need to search the model numvers on line and verify polarity. A lot of cell antennas are 45 degree cross pol. So they are not vert or horiz but stock in between. Jumpers for these are easy to find on Ebay. You need DIN male to N male. If 3' jumpers work for you hit me off list. I have those comming out of my. But check the polarity Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 00:29:57 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] 900Mhz sectors A Cell company gave me some old 900Mhz sector antennas. They said nothing wrong with them, they're just not using those frequencies any more. The label is marked for 890-940Mhz. Any issues with using them? Also, they have Heliax (female) connectors. Where can I get pigtails that convert them to N-Female? -RickG --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ DB844H90E-XY.pdf --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA