Re: [WISPA] tvws $$$$$$$$$$$

2010-09-27 Thread Jeff Ehman
Plenty of manufacturers have TVWS gear in their pipeline.  We had this 
discussion last week but Motorola is very far along in their development as 
well as Alvarion and plenty of the other carrier grade names.  I know Airspan 
already made and deployed TVWS gear for a special project too.

No one has officially announced anything but it will be coming quickly.

-Jeff
Convergence Technologies
There is a difference

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 4:40 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] tvws $$$

Cost = x
Vendor = y

I will give you x and y in 6 months to 2 years.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Jason Bailey 
j284...@yahoo.commailto:j284...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Just a few quick questions.Who will actually make the gear?What will it 
cost???






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Re: [WISPA] Leasing Companies

2010-06-04 Thread Jeff Ehman
LCA for Canopy.  

-Jeff
Convergence Technologies 
There is a difference


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 1:09 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Leasing Companies

I would recommend Peer to Peer lending options.  (Google peer to peer 
lending). They will end up being personal loans, and likely lower credit 
lines, but there is a much higher chance of walking away with a loan, at a 
reasonable rate.

If you meet the financial profile for leasing, Lease Corp of America has 
some of the lowest rates. They do a lot of the Moto 1yr type leases. With 
LCA it wont be an issue that you are leasing wireless gear, because they 
do that all the time.

A couple tips on leasing

If you do less than 5 mil a year in revenue, or have less than 10 employee, 
chances are your lease will be qualified by personal credit rating.
Most Leasing companies are clueless, and are incapable of making an 
intelligent judgement on their own, and instead rely heavilly on standard 
Credit Reports.
If your personal Credit Score is less than 700, or personal revolving credit 
lines over 50% utilized, dont bother applying for a lease, you'll probably 
get denied.. Work to improve credit score first.
The price quote you get for equipment (for example whether 30% below or 
above market rate, whether a good or bad deal) will likely have very little 
to do with your approval.
Approval is more about documentation. On paper, whether you look like a 
low credit risk or not, using default common methods of valuing, without an 
expanation needed.
My personal opinion is WISPs are likely better off working with a local 
banks or private lenders, where they can meet underwriting decission makers 
in person. WISPs appear like far less of a risk, when their business is 
explained to the lender. That message will rarely get conveyed adequately to 
behind the scene decission makers in traditional large leasing companies. 
Avoid applying for a lease, unless you are confident that you will get 
accepted, because everytime an inquirey is made on your credit report by a 
lender, future lenders will question why you might have been turned down by 
them, which brings up concern, and that inquirey will be on your record for 
2 years, and nothing you can do about it. Even if you decided to turn down 
the loan because you were offered loan shark rates.  Leasers know who they 
loansharks are, and if they made an inquirey, but you dont have a loan from 
them, they now dont know whether you turned them down or they turned you 
down. IF a loan shark wont lend to you, why should they?  I've found 
applying for leases to be a very delicate and unforgiving process. No one 
has to convince me on value of leasing, I get it. Obviously, there are 
numerous WISP Members that are successful at obtaining Leases. But what I'm 
learning is that they are all more or less exactly the same, in regards to 
methods they use to qualify/approve applicants. Although they may vary 
drastically on how well they manage the loan/client experience or ethically 
handle the application process, or what lease terms they'll extend.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Leasing Companies


Any other suggestions?

mc


On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:28 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
 Travis,

 I surprised you didnt mention:

 Taycor Financial
 -An Inc 500 Company-
 6100 Center Drive, Suite 710
 Los Angeles, CA 90045
 Direct: (310) 895-7717, Fax: (310) 568-9922
 dolyn...@taycor.com, www.taycor.com


 On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 7:10 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote:
 Be prepared to sign over your company to them if you use them for
 anything. :(

 Travis


 Layne Sisk wrote:
 Here is a leasing guy. We don't lease from him but he provides leasing
 to several of the WISPs that we support. Not cheap but he has money to
 lend out.

 Bill MacNamara
 Vice President
 Agility Ventures
 101 E. Gurley, Ste. 202
 Prescott, AZ 86301
 928.541.0771 Office
 928.541.0773 Fax
 928.970.1340 Mobile
 www.agilityventures.com


 If you need more info let me know.

 -Layne

 Layne Sisk
 www.ServerPlus.com



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marco Coelho
 Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 1:26 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Leasing Companies

 Anyone working with some decent leasing companies? We're growing
 faster than our current leasing companies can support.

 Marco





 
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Re: [WISPA] HotSpots

2010-06-02 Thread Jeff Ehman
+1.  A lot more about the specific project is needed to give a reasonable 
recommendation.

-Jeff
Convergence Technologies 
There is a difference


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 12:52 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] HotSpots

What kind of venue is this?  I have free hotels and higher class
services for event.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

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On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote:
 Looking at adding some more pay as you go hotspots and wanted to know:

 What is other most subscribed to offering on a hotspot? Per hour, per day, 
 per week, per month?
 What limits do you set on speed?
 What limits do you set on MB/GB /subscription?
 What do you charge? (hour, day, week, month) Do you let it be used at other 
 hotspots you have in other areas.

 Steve Barnes
 RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Chuck Profito
 Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 12:35 PM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: [WISPA] You knew it was coming...

 ATT will be redoing the pricing plans for I Phone and I Pad   charging a
 fee plus overages.
   There's good news for existing iPad and iPhone users who feel that the new 
 plans will cost them more: ATT said existing ATT customers -- including the 
 50 million iPhone and iPad users in the United States -- have the option of 
 sticking with their old $30 unlimited plan.

 The Full story:  http://money.cnn.com/2010/06/02/technology/att_iphone_ipad



 
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Re: [WISPA] Good reliable b/g/n inside AP

2010-05-24 Thread Jeff Ehman
Ruckus Wireless.  Hands down.  Their smart antenna array, price point and 
simple configuration/maintenance are unmatched.  Plus, this pertains to larger 
projects but if their controller goes down all the APs still broadcast!  The 
only functionality that goes away is support/maintenance but at least everyone 
can still get on the internet.

-Jeff
Convergence Technologies 
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Of Jason Hensley
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 10:46 AM
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Subject: [WISPA] Good reliable b/g/n inside AP

So many different things out on the market right now.  What would you guys
recommend for a reliable AP for use inside a conference room for a business
requiring rock solid access?  B/G would be OK, but would prefer to go ahead
and have N as well. 

Thanks!




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Re: [WISPA] Good reliable b/g/n inside AP

2010-05-24 Thread Jeff Ehman
What do you mean by a Ruckus box?  Their APs go from a couple hundred up to 
nearly 1k depending on the model.  The controller starts just over 1k and goes 
up to over 20k.

They have a wide portfolio.

-Jeff
Convergence Technologies 
There is a difference


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of D. Ryan Spott
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 11:11 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good reliable b/g/n inside AP

What is a Ruckus box running now-a-days?

ryan

On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Jeff Ehman jeh...@cticonnect.com wrote:

 Ruckus Wireless.  Hands down.  Their smart antenna array, price point and
 simple configuration/maintenance are unmatched.  Plus, this pertains to
 larger projects but if their controller goes down all the APs still
 broadcast!  The only functionality that goes away is support/maintenance but
 at least everyone can still get on the internet.

 -Jeff
 Convergence Technologies
 There is a difference


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Jason Hensley
 Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 10:46 AM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: [WISPA] Good reliable b/g/n inside AP

 So many different things out on the market right now.  What would you guys
 recommend for a reliable AP for use inside a conference room for a business
 requiring rock solid access?  B/G would be OK, but would prefer to go ahead
 and have N as well.

 Thanks!




 
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Re: [WISPA] Good reliable b/g/n inside AP

2010-05-24 Thread Jeff Ehman
I would not compare Ruckus to Ubiquiti and Engenius.  That is like comparing a 
Bobcat to a full blown Cat bulldozer.  Sure they are considered mobile 
construction equipment to move large piles of heavy scraps but they serve 
completely different applications.  

It is better to compare Ruckus to Cisco, Meru, Aruba ect...  When looking at 
the commercial grade products, Ruckus blows the competition out of the water.  
You can put together a low cost solution together with Engenius and Ubiquiti 
but support can be a nightmare and you will need to install, maintain and 
configure FAR more access points per square foot.

Ruckus is a commercial grade product for commercial applications.  When you 
look at that price point, Ruckus uses less APs and comes in much lower than the 
others.  

-Jeff
Convergence Technologies 
There is a difference


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 11:27 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good reliable b/g/n inside AP

Ruckus is way more expensive then Engenius or Ubiquiti.  I think the
cheapest thing they have is ~$300.  Gets pretty steep.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue
that counts.
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On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Jeff Ehman jeh...@cticonnect.com wrote:

 What do you mean by a Ruckus box?  Their APs go from a couple hundred up to
 nearly 1k depending on the model.  The controller starts just over 1k and
 goes up to over 20k.

 They have a wide portfolio.

 -Jeff
 Convergence Technologies
 There is a difference


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott
 Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 11:11 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good reliable b/g/n inside AP

 What is a Ruckus box running now-a-days?

 ryan

 On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Jeff Ehman jeh...@cticonnect.com wrote:

  Ruckus Wireless.  Hands down.  Their smart antenna array, price point and
  simple configuration/maintenance are unmatched.  Plus, this pertains to
  larger projects but if their controller goes down all the APs still
  broadcast!  The only functionality that goes away is support/maintenance
 but
  at least everyone can still get on the internet.
 
  -Jeff
  Convergence Technologies
  There is a difference
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of Jason Hensley
  Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 10:46 AM
  To: 'WISPA General List'
  Subject: [WISPA] Good reliable b/g/n inside AP
 
  So many different things out on the market right now.  What would you
 guys
  recommend for a reliable AP for use inside a conference room for a
 business
  requiring rock solid access?  B/G would be OK, but would prefer to go
 ahead
  and have N as well.
 
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Re: [WISPA] Licensed PMP Gear

2010-05-13 Thread Jeff Ehman
Airspan has a great solution.  Their MicroMax or MacroMax base stations operate 
in 2.5GHz and utilize 802.16e.  You can do full mobility but as with any 
802.16e solution you would need an ASN Gateway.  For your application, I doubt 
this would be useful though.

Your best bet would be a MicroMaxe base station with ProST2 CPE.

-Jeff
Convergence Technologies 
There is a difference


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Marco Coelho
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 10:05 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Licensed PMP Gear

I'm looking to sub lease spectrum.

We have a 3.65 license, but After all the telcos got done changing the
FCC requirements, I don't see much advantage to that.

I would like to be able to push out 20-50 Meg symmetrical pipes to a
number of business customers.

Marco


On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net wrote:
 Isn't the real question, does anyone have licensed spectrum?
 If they can afford spectrum I bet they can afford to get Licensed PTMP made.

 Do you have spectrum, or are you looking for options to lease spectrum?

 I cant answer the question, just courious.

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message -
 From: Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 3:07 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] Licensed PMP Gear


 Is anyone out there making licensed Point to Multipoint gear?


 --
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 Argon Technologies Inc.
 POB 875
 Greenville, TX 75403-0875
 903-455-5036


 
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Re: [WISPA] Licensed PMP Gear

2010-05-13 Thread Jeff Ehman
My comment below was assuming you want/need to go with PtMP because of tower 
requirements ect...  I agree with Gino though that licensed PtP links are 
probably your best solution if you can justify it.

-Jeff
Convergence Technologies
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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Jeff Ehman
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 10:41 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Licensed PMP Gear

Airspan has a great solution.  Their MicroMax or MacroMax base stations operate 
in 2.5GHz and utilize 802.16e.  You can do full mobility but as with any 
802.16e solution you would need an ASN Gateway.  For your application, I doubt 
this would be useful though.

Your best bet would be a MicroMaxe base station with ProST2 CPE.

-Jeff
Convergence Technologies 
There is a difference


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Marco Coelho
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 10:05 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Licensed PMP Gear

I'm looking to sub lease spectrum.

We have a 3.65 license, but After all the telcos got done changing the
FCC requirements, I don't see much advantage to that.

I would like to be able to push out 20-50 Meg symmetrical pipes to a
number of business customers.

Marco


On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net wrote:
 Isn't the real question, does anyone have licensed spectrum?
 If they can afford spectrum I bet they can afford to get Licensed PTMP made.

 Do you have spectrum, or are you looking for options to lease spectrum?

 I cant answer the question, just courious.

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message -
 From: Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 3:07 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] Licensed PMP Gear


 Is anyone out there making licensed Point to Multipoint gear?


 --
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 Argon Technologies Inc.
 POB 875
 Greenville, TX 75403-0875
 903-455-5036


 
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Re: [WISPA] Licensed PMP Gear

2010-05-12 Thread Jeff Ehman
There are quite a few 2.5GHz manufacturers out there.  The hard part is 
acquiring the spectrum to use it.

-Jeff
Convergence Technologies 
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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Marco Coelho
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 2:07 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Licensed PMP Gear

Is anyone out there making licensed Point to Multipoint gear?


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[WISPA] Philly

2010-04-15 Thread Jeff Ehman
If anyone in or around Philly has some time this afternoon, we have a Canopy 
10mbps link for a customer that is down.  It was configured properly when it 
was sent out, something went wrong on their install.

Anyone want to get back for 3-4 hours service in Philly this afternoon?  If so, 
give me a call.

-Jeff

Jeffrey S. Ehman
General Manager
jeh...@cticonnect.commailto:mkr...@converge-tech.com
cell: 630-768-2042  *  office: 312-205-2509  *  fax 773 326-4641
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Re: [WISPA] Ubnt vs Moto vs ... your brand

2010-04-14 Thread Jeff Ehman
We have seen a lot of this actually.  For small trailer parks or neighborhood 
blocks that can't see a tower.  Basically, have a Moto SM go to a rooftop that 
can reach the AP and then put a NS2 behind it pointing in the direction of a 
group of houses that you normally can't see.  Put the NS2 in AP mode and reach 
an addition 5-10 customers.  The cost of a Moto AP may not justify adding a 
small 5-10 customers but the NS2 makes a little more sense.  

I personally wouldn't recommend this because network management can become a 
huge PITA but for smaller SPs every dollar increase matters. 

-Jeff
Convergence Technologies 
There is a difference

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Francois D. Menard
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 7:37 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubnt vs Moto vs ... your brand

Actually, both work together ... we extend our Canopy PPPoE bridged segments 
with Ubnt's for el-cheapo point-to-point extensions ...

Sort of a Moto Canopy P2MP-to-UBnt(P)-to-UBnt(P)

F.

On 2010-04-13, at 8:29 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 It's not so much what you're discussing there as much as the capabilities of
 the ptmp products.
 
 You simply can not offer the latency guarantees using Ubiquiti/802.11 that
 Canopy provides.
 
 Now if you've got 3 people to serve I think it's financially ridiculous to
 get a Canopy system involved...
 
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 
 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue
 that counts.
 --- Winston Churchill
 
 
 On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com wrote:
 
 In trying to make the right buying decision - some simple answers may
 help.
 
 
 
 1.  What is the meantime failure rate for your ubiquity equipment
 
 2.  What is the avg amount of truck rolls per week you run to fix an
 issue vs the # of customers you have?
 ie- if you have say 1500 clients and do 8 troubleshooting calls a week
 then it would be 1500/8 = .0053% )
 
 3.  how often does a tech call come in (w/o a truck roll) that is
 equipment related...  For some reason I think some of the ubiquity
 radios just need a power cycle and voila - they behave much better...
 so - what is the average # of calls per total clients that come in
 that are fixed w/ simple methods vs a truck roll for the ubiquity
 users ...
 
 
 
 Moto Users - do you have this info as well:
 
 Reason I ask is because I am wondering - if the cost of Moto is
 actually worth it...  as a smaller operator - this information would
 be most beneficial for sure.
 
 Buying a Moto radio - even if 2 or 3 times the $$ if - the service
 calls on the back side are much less - might be worth it.
 
 Perhaps the cost of Radio vs People (both in manpower as well as
 client satisfaction for uptime) make the buying decision much
 easier...  but having some numbers to go along with this would be great.
 
 
 Thanks
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity VLAN Capability

2010-04-13 Thread Jeff Ehman
I doubt Nano2s do layer 2 VLAN tagging but I don't have the experience to talk 
that in-depth about it.  There is probably a backdoor way (like Faisal talked 
about) but I would just suggest a layer2/3 device that does it by port behind 
the AP.  You can find them pretty inexpensively.

-Jeff
Convergence Technologies 
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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Jeromie Reeves
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 2:24 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity VLAN Capability

I was going to say the same, so I will add, I put MT's behind UBNT's
to handle the IP layer. I let the UBNT hardware
do the RF layer, which they do pretty well.

On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote:
 The Nano's run Openwrt under the hood. The only thing proprietary on
 them is the 'radio driver'.
 you can download the SDK kit and do mods, such as adding ospf or oslr or
 even quagga.

 There are a number of folks who have posted how to recipes on the UBNT
 forums on vlans and multiple ssid's etc. This is all via the command
 line interface (ssh or telnet).

 I am making the assumption that you want the NANO to be Vlan Aware on
 the radio. and not talking about just passing multiple VLAN's from a
 Switch and using the Nano as a pass thru bridge ?  (pass thru
 functionality is there in the standard unit as long as you are
 using the AP  CPE in the WDS mode).

 Faisal

 On 4/13/2010 2:42 PM, Tracy Tippett wrote:
 Has anyone had experience getting the Nano products to support multiple 
 VLANs I looked at the forum but wasn't able to decipher a clear answer.  
 Does it require a third party software patch?

 Tracy Tippett

 --Original Mail--
 From: Jeremy Parrjeremyp...@gmail.com
 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 14:26:15 -0400
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti AirOS Comparison

 On 13 April 2010 11:52, MDKrea...@muddyfrogwater.us  wrote:

 Did you do a throughput comparison?

 It was mostly a joke, but I'll bite. A throughput comparison is not
 fair, since they both just leverage someone else's chipset. My point
 was simply that if a low end wifi based product had these features 10+
 years ago, why the hell does UBNT see fit to release something today
 that is shiny and fast, but lacking core functionality. I guess the
 market demands cheap.


 
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Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL

2010-03-25 Thread Jeff Ehman
Have you run through the numbers to see if the $15.00 is a sustainable model?  
It seems like that is below cost or their break-even is years out.  If that is 
the case, they will run out of cash at some point or customers will get 
terrible service when problems come up because the DSL company can't afford to 
hire anyone.  It will hurt you for now but if you look at the numbers and see 
it isn't sustainable, I wouldn't worry too much.

Right now though, I would buckle down and run a campaign with all employees and 
any marketing mean you have to take care of customers!  If you take care of 
your customers, it will be very tough for the competition to pick them up for a 
cheaper price. Or, it will at least delay the process long enough for the DSL 
provider to realize they can't sustain those prices...

If you find out it is sustainable, then look at possibly upgrading your network 
or doing other revenue generating ideas that the DSL provider isn't.  Upgrading 
the network is a long process and very costly though.  I would make VERY sure 
that the DSL provider can keep that $15.00 forever before doing anything with 
infrastructure.

-Jeff
There is a difference


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Robert West
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:58 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL

And, interestingly enough, the digital cable boxes that they have been
deploying lately have an integrated Docsis 3 modem.  Inactive of
course.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Glenn Kelley
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:41 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL

Time Warner is a nightmare for a number of reasons...
They are still running docsis 2 for goodness sake.

While Docsis 2 was a great step forward over 1 - running @ 6.4MHz -
allowing for some pretty interesting speeds...
Docsis 3 is a huge step forward however - and would be a great deal
for Time Warner to put into place...

In short - Docsis 2 only allows support for 1 channel - thus a
throughput of 30.72Mbit/s  - where as Docsis 3 allows for multiple
channels - and thus allows for each channel to push roughly 38mbps  -
so - # of channels x 30Mbit/s is absolutely awesome

Not sure why they are not pushing this - ...

In short - with 4 downstream and 4 upstream channels - Docsis 3 gives
122.88 Mbit/s
with 8 channels down and 4 upstream - Docsis 3 gives 343Mbit/s down
and 122.88 up

Now if Comcast can do it - why cant Time Warner?


On Mar 24, 2010, at 11:29 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:

 Interesting that Time Warner bursts the residential accounts, their
 Turbo
 service started out pretty consistent about 6 months ago with always
 being
 20+mbps. Now its flakey at best. One minute you run a speed test
 and its
 22mbps, next test its 7mbps, all over the board now.

 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 11:25 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL

 They must. Not just wireless either. My Time Warner Tech says they
 burst all residential accounts.

 On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 11:20 PM, Kurt Fankhauser
 k...@wavelinc.com wrote:
 I think most of the WISPS that offer 6+ mbps services are
 bursting for
 like the first 30 seconds, then they fall back to something like
 1.5mbps.

 I asked myself the same question until I started to think about it,
 they
 are
 bursting, I'm sure of it...

 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-
 boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of MDK
 Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:31 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL

 Yes, they can, but only a few clients per access point.   You
 cannot do it
 with 30 clients on an 11A ap.  You can if only 2-4 clients are ever
 busy
 at
 the same time.   But I'm seeing sustained 2mbit transfers for HOURS
 to
 around 20% of my clients.

 ++
 Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy
 541-969-8200  509-386-4589
 ++

 --
 From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
 Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 11:39 AM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL

 Mikrotik, StarOS, or UBNT could all deliver those speeds.


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
 Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 8:19 PM
 To: WISPA General List 

Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL

2010-03-25 Thread Jeff Ehman
And keep in mind, if your business is smaller there is a lot less overhead so a 
larger one will need to raise that minimum comfortable level.

The one thing you need to look at though, is if they received funding to 
build-out DSL somehow.  There are a lot of government funded grants out there.

-Jeff
There is a difference


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of RickG
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:03 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL

Thats right and my point. I dont see $15/month anywhere near
sustainable for any company. My curiosity is, what number is? As I
mentioned, for me $49.99/month is comfortable. Any lower and things
get sacrificed. I run a tight ship and am frugal.

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Jeff Ehman jeh...@cticonnect.com wrote:
 Have you run through the numbers to see if the $15.00 is a sustainable model? 
  It seems like that is below cost or their break-even is years out.  If that 
 is the case, they will run out of cash at some point or customers will get 
 terrible service when problems come up because the DSL company can't afford 
 to hire anyone.  It will hurt you for now but if you look at the numbers and 
 see it isn't sustainable, I wouldn't worry too much.

 Right now though, I would buckle down and run a campaign with all employees 
 and any marketing mean you have to take care of customers!  If you take care 
 of your customers, it will be very tough for the competition to pick them up 
 for a cheaper price. Or, it will at least delay the process long enough for 
 the DSL provider to realize they can't sustain those prices...

 If you find out it is sustainable, then look at possibly upgrading your 
 network or doing other revenue generating ideas that the DSL provider isn't.  
 Upgrading the network is a long process and very costly though.  I would make 
 VERY sure that the DSL provider can keep that $15.00 forever before doing 
 anything with infrastructure.

 -Jeff
 There is a difference


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Robert West
 Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:58 AM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL

 And, interestingly enough, the digital cable boxes that they have been
 deploying lately have an integrated Docsis 3 modem.  Inactive of
 course.

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Glenn Kelley
 Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:41 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL

 Time Warner is a nightmare for a number of reasons...
 They are still running docsis 2 for goodness sake.

 While Docsis 2 was a great step forward over 1 - running @ 6.4MHz -
 allowing for some pretty interesting speeds...
 Docsis 3 is a huge step forward however - and would be a great deal
 for Time Warner to put into place...

 In short - Docsis 2 only allows support for 1 channel - thus a
 throughput of 30.72Mbit/s  - where as Docsis 3 allows for multiple
 channels - and thus allows for each channel to push roughly 38mbps  -
 so - # of channels x 30Mbit/s is absolutely awesome

 Not sure why they are not pushing this - ...

 In short - with 4 downstream and 4 upstream channels - Docsis 3 gives
 122.88 Mbit/s
 with 8 channels down and 4 upstream - Docsis 3 gives 343Mbit/s down
 and 122.88 up

 Now if Comcast can do it - why cant Time Warner?


 On Mar 24, 2010, at 11:29 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:

 Interesting that Time Warner bursts the residential accounts, their
 Turbo
 service started out pretty consistent about 6 months ago with always
 being
 20+mbps. Now its flakey at best. One minute you run a speed test
 and its
 22mbps, next test its 7mbps, all over the board now.

 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 11:25 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL

 They must. Not just wireless either. My Time Warner Tech says they
 burst all residential accounts.

 On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 11:20 PM, Kurt Fankhauser
 k...@wavelinc.com wrote:
 I think most of the WISPS that offer 6+ mbps services are
 bursting for
 like the first 30 seconds, then they fall back to something like
 1.5mbps.

 I asked myself the same question until I started to think about it,
 they
 are
 bursting, I'm sure of it...

 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-
 boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of MDK
 Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:31 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] how

Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL

2010-03-25 Thread Jeff Ehman
Yes, it is a race but whoever has the customers first has the upper-hand by a 
long-shot.  I was commenting on keeping existing business not grabbing new 
business.  New business will be tough to get besides word-of-mouth advertising.

-Jeff 
There is a difference

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of MDK
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 2:09 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL

Even if their model is not sustainable, and they're going to run out of 
cash...  If you run out before they do, the results are just as deadly.

I can't compete with $15 DSL.   Nobody can.Not even them.As you say, 
it's not sustainable, so look at where they really intend to compete, and 
at what rates.



++
Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy
541-969-8200  509-386-4589
++

--
From: Jeff Ehman jeh...@cticonnect.com
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 8:49 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL

 Have you run through the numbers to see if the $15.00 is a sustainable 
 model?  It seems like that is below cost or their break-even is years out. 
 If that is the case, they will run out of cash at some point or customers 
 will get terrible service when problems come up because the DSL company 
 can't afford to hire anyone.  It will hurt you for now but if you look at 
 the numbers and see it isn't sustainable, I wouldn't worry too much.
 




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Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Taking a New Direction, Searching for New Opportunities

2010-02-25 Thread Jeff Ehman
Good luck on your future endeavors and whatever you take on next.  You have 
done a wonderful job and we all appreciate the work/effort you have put into 
this industry over the past years.  These are tough times for many people in 
our country.

Thank you for everything Rick.  Our thoughts and prayers go out to you and your 
family.

-Jeff Ehman
General Manager
Phone: (312) 205-2509
There is a difference

From: motor...@afmug.com [mailto:motor...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 12:10 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'; memb...@wispa.org; 'Motorla List Beehive'; 
indi...@wispa.org; o...@wispa.org
Subject: [Motorola II] Taking a New Direction, Searching for New Opportunities

This is a short note to all of my Wireless Industry acquaintances and my former 
coworkers.

As of Tuesday afternoon, February 23rd, 2010, I have reached an agreement to 
terminate my employment contract with Great American Broadband.  Great American 
Broadband purchased my company in July, 2008.  Unfortunately, continued 
differences of opinions between corporate and myself have led to much 
dissatisfaction for both parties.

One of the reasons, I wanted to remove myself from my Employment Contract was 
that I see new opportunities abound with the Broadband Stimulus Package.  I 
felt the need to open myself up to these new opportunities instead of watching 
them pass me by.  I built a successful ISP/WISP since 1995 and have/had an 
excellent staff.  Their hard work allowed me to devote a lot of volunteer time 
in co-founding and participating on the WISPA Board.  I know I couldn't have 
helped make WISPA what it is today without the assistance of my staff in my 
business.

Sandi (my wife of 25 years) and I have both decided to leave employment with 
GAB.  While it is a scary time in our life, I believe a new opportunity or 
opportunities will arise rather quickly.  I believe that most of my 
acquaintances in the industry know that I operate with a high level of 
integrity and work ethic.  I'm excited to find out whether others recognize and 
value my abilities, reputation and commitment to the Broadband Industry.

I ask for your prayers as Sandi and I journey into this new uncharted 
territory.   I have never been unemployed and hopefully it won't last long.

One thought I have considered is making a proposal to the WISPA Board to become 
the Executive Director for WISPA.  I do many of those functions already and 
enjoy working with the industry members.

I am no longer a principal member of WISPA with my release from GAB, but I have 
joined WISPA as an Associate Member to finish out my term as President.  I will 
see what direction my new career leads me in the next few months before 
deciding to continue on the Board or not.

I'm excited as I know there are better opportunities for myself and my family 
than the circumstances I have been involved with the last couple years.  I have 
always been a self-employed entrepreneur until the GAB purchase.  I thrive on 
building and developing new business and opportunities and this has led to some 
of my unhappiness recently.  I say goodbye to my current staff with many 
regrets and much pride.

So this is an invitation of sorts.  I'm ready to travel, consult, investigate, 
write, develop and explore new opportunities.  I'm confident in my abilities, 
my knowledge and my relationships to be successful whatever unfolds.

Respectfully,

Rick Harnish
rharn...@wispa.orgmailto:rharn...@wispa.org
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Re: [WISPA] Want to try a Ruckus home AP

2010-02-18 Thread Jeff Ehman
We are the highest partner with Ruckus and have a services division that has 
deployed tons of their APs in schools around the area.  We can assist with 
configuration and getting anyone going with this product.  

-Jeff Ehman
General Manager
Phone: (312) 205-2509
There is a difference

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Greg Ihnen
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 8:07 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Want to try a Ruckus home AP

I'm thinking of trying a Ruckus home AP. I'm going to use a Mikrotik router and 
then the Ruckus as AP only. At the Ruckus website it seems like I'd use the 
MediaFlex 2835. When I Google shopping'ed this I don't get a single hit - Your 
search - MediaFlex 2835 - did not match any products.. Does one have to buy 
straight from Ruckus? There's a form to fill out for finding a big dog 
value-added reseller but why wouldn't they just put a list of their resellers 
on their site? So they can collect all my contact info and then have follow up 
contact? I don't like it when our relationship has to be on their terms. If I 
want follow-up presales communication I'll call them. It almost seems like they 
don't want to sell them. The more obstacles they put between me and the buy 
now button the less likely it is that I'm going to buy it.

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Re: [WISPA] Want to try a Ruckus home AP

2010-02-18 Thread Jeff Ehman
In general, the Ruckus product line is very inexpensive for access points.  
Plus, their beamforming technology allows their product to use about 1/2 the 
APs as their main competitors (Cisco...).  This is accomplished because they 
don't use the typical omni antenna that most do.  The beamforming searches out 
other Ruckus access points and creates a PtP link between them so the 
throughput and connection between APs is much greater and they can be further 
apart.  When an omni is used to create connections between access points, they 
have to be placed much closer together.  Not to mention the channel bonding 
they use for additional throughput.

-Jeff Ehman
General Manager
Phone: (312) 205-2509
There is a difference


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Jeff Ehman
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 8:25 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Want to try a Ruckus home AP

We are the highest partner with Ruckus and have a services division that has 
deployed tons of their APs in schools around the area.  We can assist with 
configuration and getting anyone going with this product.  

-Jeff Ehman
General Manager
Phone: (312) 205-2509
There is a difference

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Greg Ihnen
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 8:07 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Want to try a Ruckus home AP

I'm thinking of trying a Ruckus home AP. I'm going to use a Mikrotik router and 
then the Ruckus as AP only. At the Ruckus website it seems like I'd use the 
MediaFlex 2835. When I Google shopping'ed this I don't get a single hit - Your 
search - MediaFlex 2835 - did not match any products.. Does one have to buy 
straight from Ruckus? There's a form to fill out for finding a big dog 
value-added reseller but why wouldn't they just put a list of their resellers 
on their site? So they can collect all my contact info and then have follow up 
contact? I don't like it when our relationship has to be on their terms. If I 
want follow-up presales communication I'll call them. It almost seems like they 
don't want to sell them. The more obstacles they put between me and the buy 
now button the less likely it is that I'm going to buy it.

Greg



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Re: [WISPA] Want to try a Ruckus home AP

2010-02-18 Thread Jeff Ehman
You still need power to the AP but no need to run Cat5 through a building for 
new locations.  This takes some engineering and additional products but not 
hard at all.  

Any location under 4 APs though (should be most) you don't even need the 
ZoneDirector.  Just the 3 APs.  Cool part is, 3 APs can cover a ton of ground.  
We put one up and got good signal from over 3 buildings away in our business 
park.

Very cool and inexpensive stuff.  

-Jeff Ehman
General Manager
Phone: (312) 205-2509
There is a difference


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 9:15 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Want to try a Ruckus home AP

What about batteries? =)

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
continue that counts.
--- Winston Churchill



On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Paolo Di Francesco
paolo.difrance...@teleinform.com wrote:
 another interesting feature, should be the possibility to NOT use
 ethernet cables to build your network. In few words, there is no need to
  put cables to connect the AP to the switch, only power cable.

 This is interesting in places where ethernet cable cannot be used.

 Obviously, power cable is always needed.

 Paolo

 Yeah, beam forming seems like it's definitely the way to go.

 Greg

 On Feb 18, 2010, at 10:00 AM, Jeff Ehman wrote:

 In general, the Ruckus product line is very inexpensive for access points.  
 Plus, their beamforming technology allows their product to use about 1/2 
 the APs as their main competitors (Cisco...).  This is accomplished because 
 they don't use the typical omni antenna that most do.  The beamforming 
 searches out other Ruckus access points and creates a PtP link between them 
 so the throughput and connection between APs is much greater and they can 
 be further apart.  When an omni is used to create connections between 
 access points, they have to be placed much closer together.  Not to mention 
 the channel bonding they use for additional throughput.

 -Jeff Ehman
 General Manager
 Phone: (312) 205-2509
 There is a difference


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Jeff Ehman
 Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 8:25 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Want to try a Ruckus home AP

 We are the highest partner with Ruckus and have a services division that 
 has deployed tons of their APs in schools around the area.  We can assist 
 with configuration and getting anyone going with this product.

 -Jeff Ehman
 General Manager
 Phone: (312) 205-2509
 There is a difference

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Greg Ihnen
 Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 8:07 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Want to try a Ruckus home AP

 I'm thinking of trying a Ruckus home AP. I'm going to use a Mikrotik router 
 and then the Ruckus as AP only. At the Ruckus website it seems like I'd use 
 the MediaFlex 2835. When I Google shopping'ed this I don't get a single hit 
 - Your search - MediaFlex 2835 - did not match any products.. Does one 
 have to buy straight from Ruckus? There's a form to fill out for finding a 
 big dog value-added reseller but why wouldn't they just put a list of 
 their resellers on their site? So they can collect all my contact info and 
 then have follow up contact? I don't like it when our relationship has to 
 be on their terms. If I want follow-up presales communication I'll call 
 them. It almost seems like they don't want to sell them. The more obstacles 
 they put between me and the buy now button the less likely it is that I'm 
 going to buy it.

 Greg


 
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Re: [WISPA] Want to try a Ruckus home AP

2010-02-18 Thread Jeff Ehman
Also, we have a couple SPs that are using indoor wifi as an additional source 
of income to their existing business customers.  Sell the hardware and a get 
monthly maintenance contract signed for $15.00 a month.  Adds almost 10% profit 
for $200.00 T1 customers with no investment.

-Jeff Ehman
General Manager
Phone: (312) 205-2509
There is a difference


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Jeff Ehman
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 9:25 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Want to try a Ruckus home AP

You still need power to the AP but no need to run Cat5 through a building for 
new locations.  This takes some engineering and additional products but not 
hard at all.  

Any location under 4 APs though (should be most) you don't even need the 
ZoneDirector.  Just the 3 APs.  Cool part is, 3 APs can cover a ton of ground.  
We put one up and got good signal from over 3 buildings away in our business 
park.

Very cool and inexpensive stuff.  

-Jeff Ehman
General Manager
Phone: (312) 205-2509
There is a difference


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 9:15 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Want to try a Ruckus home AP

What about batteries? =)

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
continue that counts.
--- Winston Churchill



On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Paolo Di Francesco
paolo.difrance...@teleinform.com wrote:
 another interesting feature, should be the possibility to NOT use
 ethernet cables to build your network. In few words, there is no need to
  put cables to connect the AP to the switch, only power cable.

 This is interesting in places where ethernet cable cannot be used.

 Obviously, power cable is always needed.

 Paolo

 Yeah, beam forming seems like it's definitely the way to go.

 Greg

 On Feb 18, 2010, at 10:00 AM, Jeff Ehman wrote:

 In general, the Ruckus product line is very inexpensive for access points.  
 Plus, their beamforming technology allows their product to use about 1/2 
 the APs as their main competitors (Cisco...).  This is accomplished because 
 they don't use the typical omni antenna that most do.  The beamforming 
 searches out other Ruckus access points and creates a PtP link between them 
 so the throughput and connection between APs is much greater and they can 
 be further apart.  When an omni is used to create connections between 
 access points, they have to be placed much closer together.  Not to mention 
 the channel bonding they use for additional throughput.

 -Jeff Ehman
 General Manager
 Phone: (312) 205-2509
 There is a difference


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Jeff Ehman
 Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 8:25 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Want to try a Ruckus home AP

 We are the highest partner with Ruckus and have a services division that 
 has deployed tons of their APs in schools around the area.  We can assist 
 with configuration and getting anyone going with this product.

 -Jeff Ehman
 General Manager
 Phone: (312) 205-2509
 There is a difference

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Greg Ihnen
 Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 8:07 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Want to try a Ruckus home AP

 I'm thinking of trying a Ruckus home AP. I'm going to use a Mikrotik router 
 and then the Ruckus as AP only. At the Ruckus website it seems like I'd use 
 the MediaFlex 2835. When I Google shopping'ed this I don't get a single hit 
 - Your search - MediaFlex 2835 - did not match any products.. Does one 
 have to buy straight from Ruckus? There's a form to fill out for finding a 
 big dog value-added reseller but why wouldn't they just put a list of 
 their resellers on their site? So they can collect all my contact info and 
 then have follow up contact? I don't like it when our relationship has to 
 be on their terms. If I want follow-up presales communication I'll call 
 them. It almost seems like they don't want to sell them. The more obstacles 
 they put between me and the buy now button the less likely it is that I'm 
 going to buy it.

 Greg


 
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Re: [WISPA] Extra jacketed CAT5e

2010-02-04 Thread Jeff Ehman
Double jacket cable comes in both indoor and outdoor.  The difference between 
the two is the mixed into compound.  There are chemicals that make the PE UV 
rated.  They could both feel the exact same (durable and heavy) but one could 
be indoor and crumble in a couple years from sun and one could be outdoor and 
last for years.  You really have to find a reliable supplier that will provide 
information because many just think an aluminum foil shield makes it outdoor.  
THIS IS FAR FROM THE CASE.  

Just because it is heavy does not mean it will be good in the sun. 

-Jeff Ehman
General Manager
Phone: (312) 205-2509
There is a difference


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Scott Carullo
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 3:57 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Extra jacketed CAT5e

There is outdoor cable with two jackets I saw some about a month ago and if 
I find the info I'll send it over.  I saved it because it looked 
interesting.  I have a piece of it somewhere too..  put it in a safe place 
can't find now lol

Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
321-205-1100 x102



From: David Hulsebus cont...@portative.net
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 9:15 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Extra jacketed CAT5e

Kurt, We bought a box of Belkin outdoor a few years back and it turned 
out to be indoor cable with a second jacket. We put a 150 foot run on a 
tower and crossed a flat roof and down a wall with another drop. Both 
started to loose the outer jacket within a couple of years, it just 
split apart and exposed the indoor cable to the elements. We've since 
replaced both runs. I don't have a part  number but wanted you to know  
our experience.

Dave Hulsebus

Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
 I seen some cat5e once that had a second jacket around it, it was 
obviously
 made for outdoors and was very durable and it was running through a 
woods
 just laying on the ground. I think it was made by Belkin. Does anyone 
know
 what this is and if you have a link where I can get it that would be 
great.

  

 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com

  

  

  



 


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Re: [WISPA] Credit Card Processors

2009-12-15 Thread Jeff Ehman
Sorry for bringing up an old topic but I thought about it last night and it 
should be touched on.  We are all in extremely commoditized industries where 
margins are thin and streamlined operations are a key to success.  In these 
types of businesses, every little bit counts.  Finding a one size fits all 
solution that will take over a space doesn't happen overnight (if ever).  What 
makes a business truly stand out is doing a million little things better than 
the competition.  

So, $500.00 is not something that is going to make any of us rich, but if you 
can find $500 savings or improvements in places that your competition hasn't 
thought of, it really starts to add up.  

It is much harder to attack a million army ants than one huge elephant.

-Jeff Ehman
General Manager
Phone: (312) 205-2509
There is a difference


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 10:40 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Credit Card Processors

Wow you saved 500/mo?  That has to be like 25c per customer!  Glad you
get your money quicker though :)

On 12/12/09, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote:
 IPPay. Only saved us $500 per month and we get our money in 1-2 business
 days (instead of 4-5 with authorize). :) :)

 Travis
 Microserv

 Robert West wrote:
 Looking at credit card processors again.  Been nickled and dimed to death
 with 2 others.  Who are you happy with and do they work with
 authorize.net?



 Bob-







 Robert West

 Just Micro Digital Services Inc.

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Re: [WISPA] American Dollar. Was: Re: Barriers to WISP growth

2009-10-09 Thread Jeff Ehman
Imports cost us way more money.  That may not directly affect any individual 
consumer, but it does impact nearly every manufacturer.  Cost of production 
increases greatly.  The only way they can make money is to increase their 
prices to distributors who in turn have to raise the price to individual 
consumers.  It creates inflation.

-Jeff Ehman

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 8:26 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] American Dollar. Was: Re: Barriers to WISP growth

I've never understood this thinking... who cares if the dollar is worth less 
to the rest of the world? If it will still buy groceries, or pay my power bill, 
why does it matter?

Travis
Microserv

RickG wrote:

put some money in the bank

The question is: which currency?

With the dollar falling (or failing) what good is it going to do in the bank?

I guess I'll just keep pouring it back into the company because its

gonna be worthless soon.

Any other ideas guys?

-RickG



On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Marlon K. Schafer 
o...@odessaoffice.commailto:o...@odessaoffice.com wrote:



Yeah, what he said!



I'm gonna work REALLY hard to pay down debt and put some money in the bank

over the next 3 or 4 years.  I want to be ready to pick those companies up.

marlon



- Original Message -

From: Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.commailto:coelh...@gmail.com

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org

Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 8:20 AM

Subject: Re: [WISPA] Barriers to WISP growth







Patrick,



Not being one for gov money



We have excellent credit.  We have that because we only expand at a

rate the will allow funding (new business) to cover our costs.  So the

cycle goes:



1.  Build out X number of Towers.

2.  Market X number of Areas.

3.  Install Customers to X*Y until well funded.



Repeat.



I think a lot of the companies that take stimulus money are going to

go under in the long run.  They will go like the dot-coms.  Build

build Build Ah shit no revenue!



That being said, we are vertical, all workers work for the company.

That is the only way you can control quality.  Good employees are very

hard to find.  For every 100-200 applications/resumes, maybe 10 are

worth talking to seriously.  You're lucky to find 1 that is worth

hiring.



Always a ray of sunshine!



Marco Coelho

Argon Technologies Inc.





On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 7:25 PM, RickG 
rgunder...@gmail.commailto:rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:



Patrick,



#1- Labor: There is very little skilled resources here.

#2- Funding: Especially for labor. Normal financing channels are

available but I will not take on too much debt at one time.

#3- Time: There is little extra time to dedicate towards expansion

versus daily operations.



Notes-

Employees: Too small to enjoy such a luxury.

Stimulus: I don't believe in it and did not apply.

Technologies: Proprietary equipment are a bit too expensive unless you

buy CPE in 100 packs. Even then, the AP's are still expensive.



-RickG



On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Patrick Leary 
ple...@apertonet.commailto:ple...@apertonet.com

wrote:



Regardless of your tech choice -- Moto, 802.11-based, WiMAX or other, I

am interested to know what are the greatest barriers to growth and why?



Some possibilities:

Is it funding and if so, are your normal channels for money frozen or

otherwise gone?

Is it competition? If so, how specifically.

Are you constrained from hiring due to high cost of employee benefits

(e.g. health insurance)?

Are you stalled waiting for response from your stimulus application?

Are you stalled trying to defend against someone else's stimulus

application that would include your market?

Are the current technologies too expensive or technicall inadequate to

deliver what you need to compete?



Patrick Leary

Aperto Networks

813.426.4230 mobile







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Greenville, TX 75403-0875

903-455-5036

Re: [WISPA] American Dollar. Was: Re: Barriers to WISP growth

2009-10-09 Thread Jeff Ehman
Yes.  What he said

-Jeff Ehman

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Randy Cosby
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 8:37 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] American Dollar. Was: Re: Barriers to WISP growth

Foreign goods (such as chips in our radios) will go up in dollar price.  
Even food, natural gas, etc. can go up as those are priced on a global 
market basis.  If one Chinese yuan (or whatever they use) can buy two 
bushels of wheat where it used to buy one, they can bid the price up on 
wheat (maybe to 1.5 bushels for a yuan) and still come out ahead.  We 
Americans with our weak dollar then end up paying more (at the new 
global price) for wheat.  Likewise, if our coal can be shipped overseas 
for a better price than what the producers can get on the American 
market, the global price of coal then goes up, and we end up paying more 
for electricity.

Suddenly we become an exporter again, our trade deficit starts to move 
the opposite direction from what it has in recent years.  Some problems 
get better, others get worse.

The free market is an amazing thing.  If we quit messing with it 
artificially through stimulus and over-regulation, things normalize 
quite a bit quicker than we might expect.

Randy

On 10/9/2009 7:25 AM, Travis Johnson wrote:
 I've never understood this thinking... who cares if the dollar is 
 worth less to the rest of the world? If it will still buy groceries, 
 or pay my power bill, why does it matter?

 Travis
 Microserv

 RickG wrote:
 put some money in the bank
 The question is: which currency?
 With the dollar falling (or failing) what good is it going to do in the bank?
 I guess I'll just keep pouring it back into the company because its
 gonna be worthless soon.
 Any other ideas guys?
 -RickG

 On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Marlon K. Schafero...@odessaoffice.com  
 wrote:

 Yeah, what he said!

 I'm gonna work REALLY hard to pay down debt and put some money in the bank
 over the next 3 or 4 years.  I want to be ready to pick those companies up.
 marlon

 - Original Message -
 From: Marco Coelhocoelh...@gmail.com
 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 8:20 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Barriers to WISP growth


  
 Patrick,

 Not being one for gov money

 We have excellent credit.  We have that because we only expand at a
 rate the will allow funding (new business) to cover our costs.  So the
 cycle goes:

 1.  Build out X number of Towers.
 2.  Market X number of Areas.
 3.  Install Customers to X*Y until well funded.

 Repeat.

 I think a lot of the companies that take stimulus money are going to
 go under in the long run.  They will go like the dot-coms.  Build
 build Build Ah shit no revenue!

 That being said, we are vertical, all workers work for the company.
 That is the only way you can control quality.  Good employees are very
 hard to find.  For every 100-200 applications/resumes, maybe 10 are
 worth talking to seriously.  You're lucky to find 1 that is worth
 hiring.

 Always a ray of sunshine!

 Marco Coelho
 Argon Technologies Inc.


 On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 7:25 PM, RickGrgunder...@gmail.com  wrote:

 Patrick,

 #1- Labor: There is very little skilled resources here.
 #2- Funding: Especially for labor. Normal financing channels are
 available but I will not take on too much debt at one time.
 #3- Time: There is little extra time to dedicate towards expansion
 versus daily operations.

 Notes-
 Employees: Too small to enjoy such a luxury.
 Stimulus: I don't believe in it and did not apply.
 Technologies: Proprietary equipment are a bit too expensive unless you
 buy CPE in 100 packs. Even then, the AP's are still expensive.

 -RickG

 On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Patrick Learyple...@apertonet.com
 wrote:
  
 Regardless of your tech choice -- Moto, 802.11-based, WiMAX or other, I
 am interested to know what are the greatest barriers to growth and why?

 Some possibilities:
 Is it funding and if so, are your normal channels for money frozen or
 otherwise gone?
 Is it competition? If so, how specifically.
 Are you constrained from hiring due to high cost of employee benefits
 (e.g. health insurance)?
 Are you stalled waiting for response from your stimulus application?
 Are you stalled trying to defend against someone else's stimulus
 application that would include your market?
 Are the current technologies too expensive or technicall inadequate to
 deliver what you need to compete?

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 *   Wide Product Availability
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 *   Complete turn-key package
 *   Call CTI for a bundled quote (options below)
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*   Dishes
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*   License Filing
*   Coordination and Path engineering
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*   Quick crimping
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*   Crimp and cut wires all at one time
*   Works with most RJ-11, RJ-12 and RJ-45
*   Strong steel frame
*   Rust-resistant black oxide coating

 *   All-in-One Crimp Tool
*   RJ-11, RJ-45 UTP/STP datacom  telephone
*   UTP/STP modular crimper, stripper  cutter
*   Fully ratcheting cycle with safety release
*   Precision die-cast aluminum  head
*   Soft rubber handles

 *   Wholesale Bulk Cable and RJ45 Connectors
*   Apex9 brand
*   All outdoor cable
*   Very high quality
*   Reasonably priced
*   1,000 foot boxes (with spool)

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[WISPA] Apologies

2009-10-09 Thread Jeff Ehman
Sorry all for those emails.  Having some troubles today.  Darn Friday 
afternoons...

-Jeff




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Re: [WISPA] 3650Mhz and Wimax Vendors

2009-04-22 Thread Jeff Ehman
We have quite a few live Aperto networks being deployed with residential and/or 
business services.  I am not going to speak for the deployment of Aperto gear 
over the entire U.S. but I can say they are out there.

-Jeff
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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Matt Liotta
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 2:54 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650Mhz and Wimax Vendors


On Apr 22, 2009, at 3:17 PM, 3-dB Networks wrote:

 Matt,

 How does what you say in the first paragraph make Aperto not viable?

I don't think anything from my first paragraph makes Aperto not  
viable. I am not sure I even like the term viable. I wouldn't suggest  
Aperto or recommend them as a WiMAX vendor. Of course, I don't have  
any direct experience with Aperto's current product line. Therefore, I  
can't compare and contrast their offerings to other WiMAX vendors that  
I do have experience with. Anecdotical evidence suggests that Aperto  
is not widely deployed. According to Aperto's press releases I only  
see one company mentioned that has deployed their WiMAX gear in the  
US. I don't know much about Zing to which the press release mentions.  
What I do know is that according to ULS they have only been approved  
to deploy a single Aperto radio. Further, at WiMAX World last year it  
seemed that Zing's CTO was employed by Aperto in sales. Compare this  
to Redline and Alvarion, which have lots of approved radios in ULS and  
multiple US customers including some large customers.

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Re: [WISPA] Promotion

2009-04-16 Thread Jeff Ehman
I understand the idea but I would suggest just putting up yard signs or snail 
mail flyers.  I would say something along the lines High Speed Internet is 
Thinking of Your Area.  Call 800-467-2346 if you are interested.  Take 
information that way.  

There are some problems I see with the hotspot idea.  First, this is an area 
with people not used to high speed internet so I think it would be very tough 
for them to figure out how to connect to the access point.  Also, I would 
assume that not too many people out there have a need for a laptop or travel 
around with one if they do.  Third, it would be much easier to make a simple 
flyer and mail it then trying to buy/configure/install a wireless hotspot.  
ESPECIALLY if you are looking at Mikrotik and have never used it before.

-Jeff
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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Blake Bowers
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 9:05 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Promotion

I got towers.  Lots of them.  Many don't have any kind
of wireless service anywhere close, some don't have any
kind of high speed service of any kind.

I would like to put up on some of them, for a fairly short
period of time, something like a hotspot, say a cheap router
that people can connect to, they see a splash page that says

If you are intersted in HIGH SPEED WIRELESS service, please
call 800-467-2346

Then we could log the calls, take their information, and if enough 
calls were recieved we could start talking to WISPS in adjoining
areas to see if someone might be interested in providing service
there.

A market study if you will.

Who makes a cheap box that I could hook to an OMNI with
such a thing?  
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[WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed

2009-04-10 Thread Jeff Ehman
All,

This post is for those looking at putting in high throughput unlicensed radios. 
 I can talk all day about the advantages of licensed (guarantee of 35-40db fade 
margin for starters) but I want to throw out some real world numbers I am 
seeing.  Don't get me wrong, there is always a place for unlicensed radios 
(speed to deploy...licensed takes 4-6 weeks to build, and you can move the 
radios without relicensing) but there are other options on the high capacity 
side right now.  Check out everything below because the pricing for licensed 
has come down tremendously over the years.  Just something to mull over this 
weekend.

THIS IS ALL IN APPLES TO APPLES.

~110mbps Licensed Radio
Radio + 2 foot dished + Coordination = $9,995.00
FCC Fees = $650 per side = $1,300.00
2 Power Supplies and 2 POE Adaptors = ~$638.00
TOTAL PRICE ALL IN = ~$11,933.00

~150mbps Unlicensed Radio
150mbps Connectorized Radio Link = ~$11,000
Dual Pol Antennas + Coax Jumpers = ~$400.00
TOTAL PRICE ALL IN = $11,400.00

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Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed

2009-04-10 Thread Jeff Ehman
150 is half duplex, so not this one.  I should have specified that.  Looking 
back, to really get a true comparison you would have to look at the 300mbps 
full which comes out to about 14k street.  The licensed is FDX at 110mbps.  So, 
this actually makes the case stronger for the licensed radio.  Save about 2k.  

I believe the full (300mbps) spectrum cost is 30MHz.  I assume the cost for the 
licensed link doesn't really matter but it is somewhere around 40-50MHz.   

-Jeff
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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Brad Belton
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 9:54 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed

Ok, I'll bite.  What UL radio set is going to produce 150Mbps FDX and at
what RF spectrum cost?


Brad


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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jeff Ehman
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 9:02 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed

All,

This post is for those looking at putting in high throughput unlicensed
radios.  I can talk all day about the advantages of licensed (guarantee of
35-40db fade margin for starters) but I want to throw out some real world
numbers I am seeing.  Don't get me wrong, there is always a place for
unlicensed radios (speed to deploy...licensed takes 4-6 weeks to build, and
you can move the radios without relicensing) but there are other options on
the high capacity side right now.  Check out everything below because the
pricing for licensed has come down tremendously over the years.  Just
something to mull over this weekend.

THIS IS ALL IN APPLES TO APPLES.

~110mbps Licensed Radio
Radio + 2 foot dished + Coordination = $9,995.00
FCC Fees = $650 per side = $1,300.00
2 Power Supplies and 2 POE Adaptors = ~$638.00
TOTAL PRICE ALL IN = ~$11,933.00

~150mbps Unlicensed Radio
150mbps Connectorized Radio Link = ~$11,000
Dual Pol Antennas + Coax Jumpers = ~$400.00
TOTAL PRICE ALL IN = $11,400.00

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Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed

2009-04-10 Thread Jeff Ehman
Since it is Friday and I am bored

Here's some interesting points

11 GHz Licensed Radio
-   220 Mb (110 FD): -76 dBm

PTP600
-   300 Mb (150 FD): -59.1 dBm
-   200 Mb (100 FD): -68.1 dBm

12 Mile Shot - Availability for both systems using 2' dishes is 99.999% -- but 
we may need larger dishes for 5 GHz to account for interference and noise 
(while in the licensed band, interference and noise doesn't exist)

Assuming no noise for PTP600
-   2' (28 dBi) Dishes on both sides - Aggregate Throughput - 200.68 Mb 
(~100 Mb Full Duplex)
-   4' (34 dBi) Dishes on both sides - Aggregate Throughput - 287.69 Mb 
(~140 Mb Full Duplex)

Now, since the PTP600 requires 30 MHz of spectrum and BOTH polarities, it's 
safe to assume that generally speaking, we should plan for a minimum thermal 
noise floor of -80 dBm - adding that into the equation, our calculation now 
shows the following
-   2' (28 dBi) Dishes on both sides - Aggregate Throughput - 109.03 Mb 
(~50 Mb Full Duplex)
-   4' (34 dBi) Dishes on both sides - Aggregate Throughput - 197.61 Mb 
(~100 Mb Full Duplex)

11 GHz Licensed Radio (no noise to worry about)
-   2' (34.3 dBi) Dishes on both sides - Aggregate Throughput - 220 Mb (110 
Mb  Full Duplex)

*NOTE: Licensed radios transmit and receive on SEPARATE frequencies...so round 
trip latency is ~0.4 milliseconds (~400 microseconds) per hop


Now, let's look at cost
PTP600 with 2' Dual Pol antennas and misc stuff: $14k
PTP600 with 4' Dual Pol antennas and misc stuff: $16k
Licensed Radio with 2' Dishes (Software Upgradable to 300 Mb Full Duplex) and 
FCC License: $12k



-Jeff
CTI
There is a Difference


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 11:20 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed


IMHO the PTP600 is the best UL radio in the market... 


Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Brad Belton
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 11:08 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed

From what I understand the PTP600 is an OFDM best effort radio.  If 
the RF
environment is favorable then it will pass data.  If not then it slows
down and/or starts dropping packets.

I believe the PTP600 is also a HDX radio, is it not?  Not trying to be
adversarial...just interested in learning more about any UL radio that
can produce 150Mbpd FDX as reliable as a licensed radio set.

Anyone have a PTP600 manual they can send me?


Brad


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Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 9:59 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed

Just the PTP600 that I think off ... 30 mhz 


Gino A. Villarini
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Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
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Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 10:54 AM
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Ok, I'll bite.  What UL radio set is going to produce 150Mbps FDX and at
what RF spectrum cost?


Brad


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Behalf Of Jeff Ehman
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 9:02 AM
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Subject: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed

All,

This post is for those looking at putting in high throughput unlicensed
radios.  I can talk all day about the advantages of licensed (guarantee
of 35-40db fade margin for starters) but I want to throw out some real
world numbers I am seeing.  Don't get me wrong, there is always a place
for unlicensed radios (speed to deploy...licensed takes 4-6 weeks to
build, and you can move the radios without relicensing) but there are
other options on the high capacity side right now.  Check out everything
below because the pricing for licensed has come down tremendously over
the years.  Just something to mull over this weekend.

THIS IS ALL IN APPLES TO APPLES.

~110mbps Licensed Radio
Radio + 2 foot dished + Coordination = $9,995.00 FCC Fees = $650 per
side = $1,300.00
2 Power Supplies and 2 POE Adaptors = ~$638.00 TOTAL PRICE ALL IN =
~$11,933.00

~150mbps Unlicensed Radio
150mbps Connectorized Radio Link = ~$11,000 Dual Pol Antennas + Coax
Jumpers = ~$400.00 TOTAL PRICE ALL IN = $11,400.00

-Jeff
CTI
There is a Difference





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Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed

2009-04-10 Thread Jeff Ehman
Travis, not everyone is in the middle of nowhere Idaho shooting from mountain 
top to mountain top with very little noise over 1 75 mile hop :)  I have a 
feeling many people on this list would DIE for that kind of environment.

Now, I have to say there will always be a place for certain products to fit in 
and admittedly my case was pretty general.  On the flip side though, I think it 
does pertain to a lot of [typical] situations we come across on a daily/weekly 
basis. None of us can come up with a one size fits all because there will 
always be those outside cases but we can generalize for certain scenarios.  For 
example, check out the post I just put up.  Pretty standard 12 mile shot that 
we messed around with.  Predictably, the real killer is noise.  

-Jeff
CTI
There is a Difference


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Matt Larsen - Lists
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 12:22 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed

Jeff, I think you have made a fine point.   I realized about a year ago 
that with the cost of licensed links coming down, there wasn't a lot of 
reason to look at the high-end UL radios anymore.When a StarOS or MT 
setup will deliver 30-50meg of FD throughput at a very low cost, the 
next logical step is to go with a 100MB licensed link.I have a 
couple of my consulting clients that have been dumping their Moto BH 
links in favor of StarOS because it is cheaper and quite a bit faster, 
but  we have also found a few situations where we need more speed, and 
going licensed just makes way more sense than spending that much money 
on a UL link.

I do see Travis's point about the longer range shots, however.   I've 
got a 35, 45 and 65 mile shots with StarOS and they work just fine but 
only put out about 18-25meg at those distances.   That's enough for me, 
but I can see where you would want more capacity and I suppose that 
within that narrow definition, a PTP600 would be better than a licensed 
link.

Matt Larsen
vistabeam.com

Travis Johnson wrote:
 Jeff,

 First let me say we LOVE our Trango licensed links. However, the one 
 issue you are not taking into account is distance. I just did a path 
 calc on a 73 mile 5ghz link we have now using a PTP600 and it looks 
 really good there is no way to do that shot with 11ghz (believe 
 me, if I could I would).

 So, distance may be a limiting factor when considering licensed vs. 
 unlicensed. We won't talk about my 32 mile, 18ghz licensed link (using 
 2ft dishes) with 99.99% reliability. ;)

 Travis
 Microserv

 Jeff Ehman wrote:
 Since it is Friday and I am bored

 Here's some interesting points

 11 GHz Licensed Radio
 -220 Mb (110 FD): -76 dBm

 PTP600
 -300 Mb (150 FD): -59.1 dBm
 -200 Mb (100 FD): -68.1 dBm

 12 Mile Shot - Availability for both systems using 2' dishes is 99.999% -- 
 but we may need larger dishes for 5 GHz to account for interference and 
 noise (while in the licensed band, interference and noise doesn't exist)

 Assuming no noise for PTP600
 -2' (28 dBi) Dishes on both sides - Aggregate Throughput - 200.68 Mb 
 (~100 Mb Full Duplex)
 -4' (34 dBi) Dishes on both sides - Aggregate Throughput - 287.69 Mb 
 (~140 Mb Full Duplex)

 Now, since the PTP600 requires 30 MHz of spectrum and BOTH polarities, it's 
 safe to assume that generally speaking, we should plan for a minimum thermal 
 noise floor of -80 dBm - adding that into the equation, our calculation now 
 shows the following
 -2' (28 dBi) Dishes on both sides - Aggregate Throughput - 109.03 Mb 
 (~50 Mb Full Duplex)
 -4' (34 dBi) Dishes on both sides - Aggregate Throughput - 197.61 Mb 
 (~100 Mb Full Duplex)

 11 GHz Licensed Radio (no noise to worry about)
 -2' (34.3 dBi) Dishes on both sides - Aggregate Throughput - 220 Mb (110 
 Mb  Full Duplex)

 *NOTE: Licensed radios transmit and receive on SEPARATE frequencies...so 
 round trip latency is ~0.4 milliseconds (~400 microseconds) per hop


 Now, let's look at cost
 PTP600 with 2' Dual Pol antennas and misc stuff: $14k
 PTP600 with 4' Dual Pol antennas and misc stuff: $16k
 Licensed Radio with 2' Dishes (Software Upgradable to 300 Mb Full Duplex) 
 and FCC License: $12k



 -Jeff
 CTI
 There is a Difference


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
 Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 11:20 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed


 IMHO the PTP600 is the best UL radio in the market... 


 Gino A. Villarini
 g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Brad Belton
 Sent

Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop doing installs yourself, they are for the young

2009-03-06 Thread Jeff Ehman
You can find good quality outdoor cable that is certified for UV protection and 
harsh weather conditions (last WAY over 3 years).  A lot of people I have 
talked to are not fully aware of the different types of cable available and 
just go to a Belden rep somewhere.  It can be pretty confusing and they 
overcharge all the time.  It really isn't their fault, but I don't think they 
fully understand cable manufacturing.  Most of the electrical distribution guys 
just buy small amounts of Cat5 for people in their area.  It isn't a large part 
of their business so it isn't top of mind share.

-Jeff


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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of RickG
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 1:26 PM
To: joe.mil...@dslbyair.com; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop doing installs yourself, they are for 
the young

I stacked 15 - 20' sections of the grey pvc up to the 300' level where our
equipment was located. What a job that was! -RickG

On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Joe Miller joe.mil...@dslbyair.com wrote:


 Here is an idea for the tower sitesRun your cat5 in electrical conduit,
 the gray PVC type. That way the cat5 will be protected from the weather.
 I've done this and I haven't had to replace cat5 on the towers on over 3
 years now.


 --- On Fri, 3/6/09, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote:

  From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop doing installs yourself,they
 are for the young
  To: joe.mil...@dslbyair.com
  Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 10:06 AM
  I have had a few customers look at us crosswise.  A couple
  have even asked for wall plates, or had us install ethernet
  jacks.  We'll do this if asked, but I don't carry
  the parts with me.
 
  I also try REALLY hard to NOT put any ethernet wall plates
  in.  I don't want the extra connection in a poe
  situation.  It's probably fine, but as an ex lineman I
  know that connections are almost always the reason for a
  failure so I want the fewest possible.
 
  We try to hide all cable as much as possible, we ask for a
  vacuum to clean up any drillings, we do NOT leave the little
  ends from the cat5 crimps laying around - not even outside.
 
  Hell, until recently we always ran indoor WHITE cat 5
  cable.  People REALLY liked that, I have just gotten tired
  of cables with water in them.  Luckily it seems to almost
  exclusively happen at my towers not at the customer's
  sites.  It's usually cheap and easy to replace the bad
  cable and ruined poe. But I hate service calls!
 
  Sure wish I could find a double insulated white cable to
  use instead of this black stuff we're using now.
 
  laters,
  marlon
 
  - Original Message - From: Joe Miller
  joe.mil...@dslbyair.com
  To: Marlon K. Schafer
  o...@odessaoffice.com
  Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 7:59 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop doing installs
  yourself,they are for the young
 
 
  
   I just had to ask..very interesting.
  
  
   --- On Fri, 3/6/09, Marlon K. Schafer
  o...@odessaoffice.com wrote:
  
   From: Marlon K. Schafer
  o...@odessaoffice.com
   Subject: Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop doing
  installs yourself,they are for the young
   To: joe.mil...@dslbyair.com, WISPA General
  List wireless@wispa.org
   Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 9:51 AM
   Not at all.  We hide the holes behind a desk or
  something
   when ever
   possible.  You'll never notice them.  Unlike a
  big,
   ugly wall plate.
  
   marlon
  
   - Original Message - From: Joe
  Miller joemiller...@yahoo.com
   To: WISPA General List
   wireless@wispa.org
   Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 6:40 AM
   Subject: Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop doing
  installs
   yourself,they are
   for the young
  
  
   
Marlon,
   
You are joking..right?
   
   
--- On Fri, 3/6/09, Marlon K. Schafer
   o...@odessaoffice.com wrote:
   
From: Marlon K. Schafer
   o...@odessaoffice.com
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop
  doing
   installs yourself, they
are for the young
To: WISPA General List
   wireless@wispa.org
Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 8:30 AM
Who uses wall plates anyway?  We just try
  to get
   the hole
right at the top
of the baseboards.  Then, someday when
  all this is
   gone and
some new
technology (TV band with no external
  antenna?)
   replaces it
they'll just have
to plug one small hole and give it a dab
  of paint!
marlon
   
- Original Message - 
  From: Scott Reed
scottr...@onlyinternet.net
To: WISPA General List
wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop
  doing
   installs
yourself, they are
for the young
   
   
 Don't they still make plates
  with just a
   1/4
hole in it.  No need to
 drill.



 George Rogato wrote:
 I was trying to 

Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link

2009-02-12 Thread Jeff Ehman
Only half of the truth.

Was the quote less... yes.  Is it related to the conversation right now (i.e. 
Apex line vs. Dragonwave)... no.

NOT APPLES TO APPLES.

The particular quote was for a Trango GIGA line, not APEX (need for T-1 ports). 
 In order to get the reliability needed, we had to quote a higher dish size 
with the GIGA because of modulation issues.  The GIGA line will bring down the 
throughput during rain in order to keep the link going but not automatically 
bring it back to normal speeds.  It is a brief time period but you have to 
bring the link down in order to fix it and up to +300mbps again.  Because this 
customer has HIGH SLAs we had to be very careful that the link didn't go down.  
With a comparable Dragonwave, we were able to quote a smaller dish size due to 
automatic modulation.  So, because of the raw cost of smaller dishes and then 
leasing costs of less space due to smaller dishes, the Dragonwave quote came in 
lower.  This is an exception and not a rule.

If it were not for the need of the T-1 ports, everything would have been normal 
pricing because the APEX line does speed up without the need of bringing the 
link down.  This is the most popular option right now so there is a little 
misunderstanding.

APPLES TO APPLES, the Trango APEX product will be 10-20% lower cost.  Bottom 
line.

-Jeff


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Of Matt Liotta
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 3:00 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link


On Feb 12, 2009, at 3:55 PM, Travis Johnson wrote:

 And, CTI has published their exact pricing for the Trango. Why is
 nobody else putting out the DW price?

I don't know, but our last quote from CTI had the DW coming in less
than Trango.

-Matt




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Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link

2009-02-11 Thread Jeff Ehman
I'll get this posted later today.  Unbelievably busy this morning.  Give me 
some time.

-Jeff


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Cameron Kilton
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 7:40 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link

I will second this, I would love to hear it!

-Cameron

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 10:32 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link

Isn't that the purpose of a public forum? :)

Travis
Microserv

Jeff Ehman wrote:
All,

When comparing exactly apples to apples, there is about a 10-20% premium
for a Dragonwave product.

There are plenty of threads on this topic.  I would be happy to grab a
bunch for you so hit me off off-list.  It really depends on your
application for which product you would like to go with.  I would be
more than happy to walk you through everything.

I try to refrain from stating opinions in a public forum.

-Jeff

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Behalf Of Brad Belton
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 6:36 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link

Hello Daniel,

Can you elaborate in what way the Dragonwave performance is much
better?
Do you have a comparison chart you can share with us explaining how a
Dragonwave stacks up against competing products.  Namely Trango in this
case.

Exactly how close is close when you mention pricing between the two
products?  Close is a relative term don't you agree?  So, are we
talking
$5, $50, $500, $5000?

Look forward to your responses.

Thank you,


Brad



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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of 3-dB Networks
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 6:25 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link

Well...

I'd be happy to quote you a Dragonwave link... I think you will be
surprised
how close it comes to the Trango pricing... and I think the performance
is
much better (I don't want to rehash that whole thread).

We also will take care of all of the licensing work for you.

Hit me offlist if you like.

Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com



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Behalf Of Andrew Niemantsverdriet
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 10:08 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link

I am looking for a good place to get an 18ghz link, where do you guys
suggest. Ideally the company would also procure the licence for us. I
am thinking I want the Trango APEX because of it cost / performance.
So if anybody has suggestions on a good company to use I am all ears!

Thanks,
_
/-\ ndrew




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Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link

2009-02-10 Thread Jeff Ehman
All,

When comparing exactly apples to apples, there is about a 10-20% premium for a 
Dragonwave product.

There are plenty of threads on this topic.  I would be happy to grab a bunch 
for you so hit me off off-list.  It really depends on your application for 
which product you would like to go with.  I would be more than happy to walk 
you through everything.

I try to refrain from stating opinions in a public forum.

-Jeff

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Brad Belton
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 6:36 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link

Hello Daniel,

Can you elaborate in what way the Dragonwave performance is much better?
Do you have a comparison chart you can share with us explaining how a
Dragonwave stacks up against competing products.  Namely Trango in this
case.

Exactly how close is close when you mention pricing between the two
products?  Close is a relative term don't you agree?  So, are we talking
$5, $50, $500, $5000?

Look forward to your responses.

Thank you,


Brad



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of 3-dB Networks
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 6:25 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link

Well...

I'd be happy to quote you a Dragonwave link... I think you will be surprised
how close it comes to the Trango pricing... and I think the performance is
much better (I don't want to rehash that whole thread).

We also will take care of all of the licensing work for you.

Hit me offlist if you like.

Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com


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Behalf Of Andrew Niemantsverdriet
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 10:08 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link

I am looking for a good place to get an 18ghz link, where do you guys
suggest. Ideally the company would also procure the licence for us. I
am thinking I want the Trango APEX because of it cost / performance.
So if anybody has suggestions on a good company to use I am all ears!

Thanks,
 _
/-\ ndrew




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Re: [WISPA] White Cable Available

2009-01-22 Thread Jeff Ehman
We have just partnered closely with a manufacturer that will have beige and 
white available.  Low cost un-shielded UV, CMX, PVC jacket.

-Jeff


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Subject: [WISPA] White Cable Available


I have a source for white outdoor cable. I had a Manufacturer/Distributor
make some special cable. 1000' is about the same price as General Cable 500'
purchased from Home Depot. Hit me offlist for the contact info. I believe
Travis buys for the same source.




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Re: [WISPA] Does anyone recycle cable?

2009-01-01 Thread Jeff Ehman
That is a great idea.  Never thought about it before.  With Chuck's comment, I 
am curious to see how much usable copper is in the cable though.

-Jeff

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Subject: [WISPA] Does anyone recycle cable?

We've been keeping our used ethernet cable for recycling. I found a
couple of companies on the Internet, but no response. Does anyone have a
place to recycle this?

Thanks

Martha
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Re: [WISPA] Does anyone recycle cable?

2009-01-01 Thread Jeff Ehman
Thinking about it more though, the cost of the cable fluctuates a lot with the 
price of the commodity.  Purchasing becomes a big pain sometimes so I think 
there may be some cash in it.  I think a lot of us would like to know what you 
get for it.

-Jeff

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That is a great idea.  Never thought about it before.  With Chuck's comment, I 
am curious to see how much usable copper is in the cable though.

-Jeff

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Subject: [WISPA] Does anyone recycle cable?

We've been keeping our used ethernet cable for recycling. I found a
couple of companies on the Internet, but no response. Does anyone have a
place to recycle this?

Thanks

Martha
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Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3.65

2008-12-14 Thread Jeff Ehman
We are going to test this for ourselves but it is our understanding that all 
3.65 WiMAX Forum Certified equipment is interoperable but only to a certain 
extent.  From what I understand, Redline Base Stations and Tranzeo CPE will 
work together but only on a best effort basis.  All QoS functionality is 
proprietary.  If you are just providing data services that should not be an 
issue though.

Once again, this is theory.  I do not know of anyone who has actually tried out 
a system using Redline Base Stations and another manufacturer's CPE.

-Jeff
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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 11:39 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3.65

Well its uses Wimax MAC, but ists not Wimax Forum Certified so the
manufactures don't have to comply with interoperability


Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of George Rogato
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 1:34 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3.65

So this stuff then is not really WiMAX, it;s just another proprietary
system, right?

George

Blair Davis wrote:
 rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote:
 Don't I remember that there was a lot of hype about interoperability?

 That's why many of us still stick to the old a/b/g stuff.   We hate
the idea
 of getting orphaned.


 Right on!  Some of us HAVE been orphaned!


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Re: [WISPA] ISPCON

2008-10-30 Thread Jeff Ehman
Who would want to party with IPpay???  I hear those guys parties are terrible!

:)

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 I really enjoyed your poker party last seasons before the CEO session.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


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Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 11:06 AM
Subject: [WISPA] ISPCON


 Who's going?

 We are thinking of throwing a networking party / reception there on
 Wednesday night (right before ISP-CEO)
 Wanted to know who'd be there to see if there's any  interest out there

 -Charles


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Re: [WISPA] Wimax world news?

2008-10-08 Thread Jeff Ehman
WiMAX World was a bunch of mobile pipedream stuff with an emphasis on in the 
clouds technology roadmaps, haha.

What most people got out of WiNOG was the ability to speak with other operators 
ACTUALLY deploying 3.65 gear.  Can't really describe the good parts, except for 
getting Redline and Aperto's full attention for 2 days instead of being 
attacked by 300 vendors.

I think everyone in our industry is aware of the benefit of 3.65 being open 
spectrum and the ability for high quality service due to WiMAX's QoS 
capabilities.  Only time will tell with which manufacturer will win your hearts 
but the mobile stuff that WiMAX World spoke about is not it at this point.

-Jeff
General Manager
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(773) 667-4585 x2509


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 5:29 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wimax world news?

Well, lets hear it!  I was unable to attend, even tough I really wanted!

Gino A. Villarini
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Charles Wu
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 11:27 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wimax world news?

Nothing terribly exciting at WiMAX World

WiNOG, on the other hand...

grin

-Charles


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Any interesting news?



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Subject: [WISPA] Radwin 2000

Hi,

Has anyone heard of or used products by Radwin (www.radwin.com)?

I understand they are releasing the Radwin 2000 series of 5.x GHz
point-to-point links in the US in November.

The price is very attractive.

My main concern is performance  reliability. We can test the
performance within a short period of time, but not the reliability
(would need to have the link up for a while to do that). We are
considering these for a critical  2 mi. link.

Thanks,
Adam




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Re: [WISPA] Wimax world news?

2008-10-08 Thread Jeff Ehman
WiNOG did have the Wu Wu special

2 Parts Technical Jargon
1 Part Credit Card Processing ON DISCOUNT

:)

Some humor for a great Wednesday afternoon

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Ehman
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 2:42 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wimax world news?

WiMAX World was a bunch of mobile pipedream stuff with an emphasis on in the 
clouds technology roadmaps, haha.

What most people got out of WiNOG was the ability to speak with other operators 
ACTUALLY deploying 3.65 gear.  Can't really describe the good parts, except for 
getting Redline and Aperto's full attention for 2 days instead of being 
attacked by 300 vendors.

I think everyone in our industry is aware of the benefit of 3.65 being open 
spectrum and the ability for high quality service due to WiMAX's QoS 
capabilities.  Only time will tell with which manufacturer will win your hearts 
but the mobile stuff that WiMAX World spoke about is not it at this point.

-Jeff
General Manager
CTI
(773) 667-4585 x2509


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 5:29 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wimax world news?

Well, lets hear it!  I was unable to attend, even tough I really wanted!

Gino A. Villarini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Charles Wu
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 11:27 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wimax world news?

Nothing terribly exciting at WiMAX World

WiNOG, on the other hand...

grin

-Charles


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Any interesting news?



-Original Message-
From: Adam Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 4:33 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Radwin 2000

Hi,

Has anyone heard of or used products by Radwin (www.radwin.com)?

I understand they are releasing the Radwin 2000 series of 5.x GHz
point-to-point links in the US in November.

The price is very attractive.

My main concern is performance  reliability. We can test the
performance within a short period of time, but not the reliability
(would need to have the link up for a while to do that). We are
considering these for a critical  2 mi. link.

Thanks,
Adam




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Re: [WISPA] Dual Pol Antennas

2008-09-26 Thread Jeff Ehman
Yeah pretty sure we have some of the MTIs if that is what you are looking for.  
Email me.

-Jeff
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We use the MTI MT-485025/NVH, 23dBi dual-pol panel and have found them as
low as $150 each.

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 on 5.8GHz with 15db or more of gain.  A narrow beam width is a
 plus.br
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 A grid or a dish will be fine.  I'd like to keep the price down as if
 it is over $150 or so, it really won't be cost effective.  I can
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 This is for a short link, about 2000ft, but it will be at the end of
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Re: [WISPA] All Those Attending WiNOG --- Patrick Leary in Attendance

2008-09-13 Thread Jeff Ehman
Probably not until next year sometime.  It was just there a couple months ago.

-Jeff
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Felix A. Lopez
Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 12:33 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] All Those Attending WiNOG --- Patrick Leary in Attendance

Is WINOG coming back to the California area soon?


--- On Fri, 9/12/08, Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [WISPA] All Those Attending WiNOG --- Patrick Leary in Attendance
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date: Friday, September 12, 2008, 12:27 PM

Yes, I will be there and appreciate Charles's invitation. Lots of
interesting happenings to share. I may have been quiet, but I am more
plugged in than ever. I look forward to seeing folks there. I will be in
Chicago from Sunday night until Friday morning.

- Patrick

On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 2:33 PM, Jeff Ehman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 All attending the upcoming WiNOG in Chicago...  I thought you would be
 interested to know that Patrick Leary will be speaking on the state of the
 WiMAX industry.  Just a quick heads up because he has been quiet for a
while
 now.

 -Jeff
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[WISPA] All Those Attending WiNOG --- Patrick Leary in Attendance

2008-09-12 Thread Jeff Ehman
All attending the upcoming WiNOG in Chicago...  I thought you would be 
interested to know that Patrick Leary will be speaking on the state of the 
WiMAX industry.  Just a quick heads up because he has been quiet for a while 
now.

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Re: [WISPA] All Those Attending WiNOG --- Patrick Leary in Attendance

2008-09-12 Thread Jeff Ehman
Of course.  Thank you Jason.

-Jeff
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Hodge
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 2:01 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] All Those Attending WiNOG --- Patrick Leary in Attendance

I will take video for those who will miss the show. I am sure CTI will be able 
to make sure this happens.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Ehman
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 1:58 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] All Those Attending WiNOG --- Patrick Leary in Attendance

No kidding!  It is nice for once to have a show in town and it would be useful 
to get him back on these lists, that is for sure.  He is missed.

-Jeff
General Manager
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 3-dB Networks
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 1:53 PM
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Hopefully his insights can be shared with the list for those of us not lucky
enough to attend (Jeff your lucky its in your backyard!)

Daniel White
3-dB Networks

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Behalf Of Jeff Ehman
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 12:33 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] All Those Attending WiNOG --- Patrick Leary in Attendance

All attending the upcoming WiNOG in Chicago...  I thought you would be
interested to know that Patrick Leary will be speaking on the state of the
WiMAX industry.  Just a quick heads up because he has been quiet for a while
now.

-Jeff
General Manager
CTI
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Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa?

2008-09-08 Thread Jeff Ehman
We do some business there but are very careful with every transaction.  Cash up 
front most of the time.  I think that is the main theme here.  Just go in 
understanding the many unknowns, be cautious and don't get too involved until 
real money can be confirmed.

That being said, no one can argue that the opportunities are huge in 
underdeveloped economies if you can find the right partner/customer.

-Jeff
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Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 4:07 PM
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I have a good sized customer in Africa.  Their network has been built
steadily over time, and I've met the principle on several occasions.  We've
done lots of smaller projects, but always on a cash basis.

Jeff


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Exactly the same experience here. Lots of talk, long-winded network design,
layout, and bidding process with numerous tweaks and revisions, and
ultimately  nothing. Complete waste of time for us, but I don't see what
they get out of it either (?)

Tom Sharples
President
Qorvus Systems, Inc.
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Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 11:19 AM
Subject: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa?


 Is it just me, or do African wireless opportunities rarely materialize?

 I've been involved in tons and tons of big ($10+M, in theory) projects
 where all sorts of big numbers are thrown out, but for whatever reason,
 someone never ultimately pulls the trigger.

 (Not sure what I'm missing, but this seems to be a running theme with
 African projects I've ever gotten pulled in on.)





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