Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz

2008-07-07 Thread jeffrey thomas
: jeffrey thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 12:45 PM Subject: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz Since everyone was talking about wimax, thought I would throw my 3 cents

Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz

2008-07-07 Thread jeffrey thomas
broadband too, after all we are people just like in the big cities...only thing is, it doesn't take us an hour or longer to get to work everyday. :) Scott -- Original Message -- From: jeffrey thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz

2008-07-07 Thread jeffrey thomas
Jack, Drew is an operator who is already deployed with Airspan, I believe. Is this correct Drew? Yes, forested areas always present a challenge, whether its 900, 700, 3.65ghz, 5.8ghz, etc etc. - Jeff Booher Channel Manager, North America www.apertonet.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz

2008-07-06 Thread jeffrey thomas
Since everyone was talking about wimax, thought I would throw my 3 cents in :) Benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz 1. Spectral efficiency ( 4.85 gross bp/hz ) On a six sector configuration with only 25mhz of spectrum, you can effectively deliver approx 20mb per sector or 120 mb / per pop, 240 mb when

Re: [WISPA] 3.65 needs more lobbying (was Re: One Ring Networks ToRollout New WiMAX Service)

2008-01-27 Thread jeffrey thomas
testing. -Eric jeffrey thomas wrote: All, Aperto actually has a really killer product launching next month in 3.65. I would state its a lot more stable than Redline's product due to their secret sauce. Its the same platform that is winning carriers overseas. Airspan- yes

Re: [WISPA] One Ring Networks To Rollout New WiMAX Service

2008-01-25 Thread jeffrey thomas
correct On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 23:15:18 -0400, Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I thought it was Airspan 5 mhz channel: 4.07 w 10 mhz channel 7.24 w Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145

Re: [WISPA] 3.65 needs more lobbying (was Re: One Ring Networks ToRollout New WiMAX Service)

2008-01-25 Thread jeffrey thomas
and actually Aperto has 21 mb throughput on a 7mhz channel On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 16:19:44 -0600, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: So then Airspan can go further (more applicable to rural markets)? If Redline's 15 mbit throughput per 7.5 MHz is correct and is similar to other products in

Re: [WISPA] One Ring Networks To Rollout New WiMAX Service

2008-01-25 Thread jeffrey thomas
Bear in mind everyone- the Airspan product is also about 2x the price of redline on base. Its ultimately designed for zero truck roll mobility for indoor 2km cells ( and works, Im actually sitting in Airspan's boca facility right now, getting training on Hipermax ) You could as well use it for

Re: [WISPA] 3.65 needs more lobbying (was Re: One Ring Networks To Rollout New WiMAX Service)

2008-01-25 Thread jeffrey thomas
This is due to the fact that they dont have the contention protocol. On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 16:56:49 -0500, Mike Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Not sure why but the FCC dinged Redline 10DB of tx power due average vs peak power calculations. Mike At 12:26 PM 1/12/2008, you wrote: IIRC,

Re: [WISPA] 3650

2007-11-20 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
All, Airspan has submitted for the lower band ( higher power ) and supposedly been given the thumbs up for their hipermax product and will be submitting for micromaxE as well. Airspan supports the full 5w output power on 10mhz and 10 watt output power on 20mhz, as well as mimo. Currently

Re: [WISPA] RF propagation map: WiFi vs WiMax?

2007-10-09 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
, at 7:01 AM, Dylan Oliver wrote: MOFO? ATCA? SDR? On 10/6/07, Jeffrey Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 802.16e in 5.8ghz would be absolutely the biggest waste of money ever as you wouldn't get a true mobile network but your network costs would be around, yaknow, 300k for a market of 20k people

Re: [WISPA] RF propagation map: WiFi vs WiMax?

2007-10-09 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Thomas Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 6:00 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RF propagation map: WiFi vs WiMax? All, Bear in mind, Clearwire uses their own base station technology, which is mostly Nextnet base stations ( now motorola ) . Nextnet's

Re: [WISPA] RF propagation map: WiFi vs WiMax?

2007-10-09 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Thomas Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 3:29 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RF propagation map: WiFi vs WiMax? 802.16e in 5.8ghz would be absolutely the biggest waste of money ever as you

Re: [WISPA] RF propagation map: WiFi vs WiMax?

2007-10-07 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
All, Bear in mind, Clearwire uses their own base station technology, which is mostly Nextnet base stations ( now motorola ) . Nextnet's performance is not wimax, just really high power base stations and CPE. 4 QAM / 2 WATT output power / 8dbi directional antenna on the CPE and I think around 10

Re: [WISPA] RF propagation map: WiFi vs WiMax?

2007-10-07 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
802.16e in 5.8ghz would be absolutely the biggest waste of money ever as you wouldn't get a true mobile network but your network costs would be around, yaknow, 300k for a market of 20k people for just BASE station equipment. The way to go if you are really worried about upward

Re: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum

2007-10-02 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
roadmap. See for yourself: https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Thomas Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 5:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum

2007-10-02 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Thomas Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 4:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum They have submitted for several OET's from my understanding, for those frequencies. On Oct 1

Re: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum

2007-10-01 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
, Market Development Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Thomas Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 2:17 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3

Re: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum

2007-09-28 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
Scriv, I know of 2 MFR's that are SHIPPING wimax in your band you hold licenses for. hit me offlist. tks, Jeff On Aug 23, 2007, at 8:12 PM, John Scrivner wrote: So Patrick, if an operator has an interest in launching WiMAX using BreezeMax will Alvarion help them find and acquire access

Re: [WISPA] FCC Says White-Space Spectrum Device Doesn't Work

2007-09-07 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
All, focusing on the future of white space is so far off that you can't even assume that the current technologies used will even apply ( or there will be a market for WISPs to service ) If I was any of you I would be banging down the FCC's door to get decent output power ( greater than 1w

Re: [WISPA] Airspan launches 3.65 gear

2007-06-21 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
offlist On Jun 20, 2007, at 1:17 PM, Dennis Burgess wrote: any pricing yet On 6/20/07, Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.marketwirecanada.com/2.0/release.do?id=744234 Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax

[WISPA] Testing....123

2007-04-12 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
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Re: [WISPA] Our First WISP Consultant Vendor Member - Butch Evans

2007-04-02 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
*high fives charles* On 4/2/07 3:44 PM, Charles Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Honestly, Would you buy RB112/532/whatever boards if they cost $1k vs $100 each? -Charles --- WiNOG Wireless Roadshows Coming to a City Near You

Re: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status?

2007-03-02 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
That's an age old question. Anyone have any ideas what's up with it? - Jeff On 3/2/07 1:29 AM, wispa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I spent some time reading the latest R O about the 3650 spectrum, which is dated back in 2005.

Re: [WISPA] WA State WISPS

2007-02-14 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
Ryan, The DNR is really flexible on those rates. Where is the tower you Are considering leasing? Btw, My Girlfreind's roomate works for the DNR in Wa state, I can ask her what she would recommend to offer. - Jeff On 2/14/07 1:00 PM, Ryan Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone? ryan

Re: [WISPA] churn, double play and why WLP is key - I finallyunderstand it

2007-01-22 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
- Original Message - From: Jeffrey Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] churn, double play and why WLP is key - I finallyunderstand it I believe it can now be said without reservation

Re: [WISPA] churn, double play and why WLP is key - I finally understand it

2007-01-09 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
I believe it can now be said without reservation, that if you are using unlicensed and wanting to implement a double play of VoIP + data, the ONLY product out there that can do it in scale and with toll quality is BreezeACCESS VL. Bzzz.. Wrong. Aperto supports toll quality voice of about

Re: [WISPA] Brad B, I got your answer on the pinout for BreezeACCESSVL

2007-01-05 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
But you still date 24 year olds ;) - Jeff On 1/5/07 3:29 PM, Forbes Mercy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: H I'm 48 - gawd I just looked at that in print and it is WAY too old for me. Forbes Mercy Washington Broadband, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [WISPA] Trango at ISPCON

2006-11-14 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
Brian, Standards don't really matter unless you have interop on the mac layer as well as QOS.With just MAC and phy layer interoperability, the only thing that will be supported is simple bridging and routing when you use seperate vendor's CPE and Base stations. btw, no one is currently

Re: [WISPA] Airband acquires RedWire with eye on WiMAX

2006-10-18 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
Congrats to Jim~ I know they worked long and hard to be bought out :) - Jeff On 10/17/06 2:24 PM, Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://rcrnews.com/news.cms?newsId=27551 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:

Re: [WISPA] Ma Bell's About Face On Muni-WiFi

2006-09-01 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
The core issue all these mesh networks is they were not built with proper density which by our calculations for a network the size of mountain view would be about 45 nodes per sq mile, instead of the 30-32 nodes per square mile implemented. YMMV... - Jeff On 8/30/06 9:29 AM, Patrick

Re: [WISPA] Not me, no way!

2006-08-28 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
Its quicktime. The down arrow on the left hand side has an option save as source.. - Jeff On 8/28/06 10:24 AM, Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great video !!!1 Anyone knows has to save this to disk ? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

Re: [WISPA] Not me, no way!

2006-08-28 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
I take that back, the right hand side. On 8/28/06 12:07 PM, Jeffrey Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its quicktime. The down arrow on the left hand side has an option save as source.. - Jeff On 8/28/06 10:24 AM, Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great video !!!1

Re: [WISPA] OT, online contact groups

2006-07-24 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
I use both. I find them pretty useful, actually. On 7/24/06 5:14 PM, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I keep getting offers to sign up for plaxo, linked in etc. I've NEVER signed up for any. They seem too much like email harvesting or porn jerks to me. Am I

Re: [WISPA] Zcomax has WIMAX?

2006-06-13 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
Sure- but they don't have any plans to make base stations, so none of the base station manufacturer provided QOS mechanisms will work with zcomax clients. - Jeff On 6/12/06 7:44 PM, George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.zcom.com.tw/news001.htm -- WISPA Wireless List:

Re: [WISPA] Wimax corrections-The info is out there if you look

2006-06-13 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
Title: Re: [WISPA] Wimax corrections-The info is out there if you look On the CPE pricing... Yup, and the only one shipping 5.8 product yet is Airspan. - Jeff On 6/13/06 6:42 AM, Brad Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A few corrections: The issue with 3.650 is the FCC has not decided on

Re: [WISPA] Good news on the wimax unlicensed front

2006-06-12 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
up to it's hype from what I have seen. JohnnyO Wanting to be a believer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Thomas Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 11:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good news on the wimax

Re: [WISPA] looking for a device

2006-06-12 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
the product you are suggesting, but the only dual radio products I can find our base station products. I not looking for a base station, I am looking for something client facing. Further, I see no mention of VLAN support. -Matt jeffrey thomas wrote: Airmatrix can do

Re: [WISPA] Good news on the wimax unlicensed front

2006-06-12 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
Yup. Jeffrey thomas Booher. On 6/9/06 4:36 AM, Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't Jeffrey Thomas = Jeff Boher ? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

Re: [WISPA] looking for a device

2006-06-12 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
Lets say you are using vlans to not only segment traffic, but priortize traffic as well. So a double tagged vlan, would give you the ability to create A vlan for segmentation and a VLAN within that vlan for priortization, for additional segmentation as well. I could be wrong though. - Jeff

Re: [WISPA] Good news on the wimax unlicensed front

2006-06-12 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
Yup. On 6/9/06 8:33 AM, Charles Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeffrey Thomas = Jeff Booher Jeffrey Thomas Booher actually -Charles --- CWLab Technology Architects http://www.cwlab.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [WISPA] 24 dbi Atlas Fox

2006-06-08 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
Mti's are a lot better antenna but a bit more pricey. - Jeff On 6/7/06 9:16 PM, George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those MTI's are nice looking product. Nice price too. Have you checked out the pac wireless 5 gig rootennas yet? They are working great for me and they are cheap.

Re: [WISPA] looking for a device

2006-06-08 Thread jeffrey thomas
Airmatrix can do that. www.defactowireless.com On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 13:17:30 -0400, Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I am looking for a device with the following requirements: * Can backhaul at 11Mbps operating in the 5.2Ghz band * Can support VLANs * Can assign a VLAN to one Ethernet

Re: [WISPA] looking for a device

2006-06-08 Thread jeffrey thomas
Fyi everyone, wrap boards have been discontinued On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 12:45:00 -0500, Sam Tetherow [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: If you order it all from wisp-router they will assemble it for your so you would get a die-cast case with the RB mounted the radios and pigtails installed. All you

Re: [WISPA] looking for a device

2006-06-08 Thread jeffrey thomas
Matt, The airmatrix flex can do what you require, i think list on them is around 350 or so but that price is coming down to around 250.00. An additional card shouldnt be too much more per side. - Jeff On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 15:19:35 -0400, Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I don't think i am

Re: [WISPA] looking for a device

2006-06-08 Thread jeffrey thomas
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[WISPA] Good news on the wimax unlicensed front

2006-06-08 Thread jeffrey thomas
Guys, Just got out of training for the new AIRSPAN wimax product for 5.8. Unlike most other vendors, they are going to market with their 802.16-2004 5.4-5.9 solution and are shipping in JULY, and expect FCC certification for their 802.16-2004 product for 4.9 Ghz as well in July! I am very excited

Re: [WISPA] looking for a device

2006-06-08 Thread jeffrey thomas
- From: jeffrey thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] looking for a device Fyi everyone, wrap boards have been discontinued -- WISPA Wireless List

Re: [WISPA] Good news on the wimax unlicensed front

2006-06-08 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
to set up the roof mount. - Jeff On 6/8/06 8:04 PM, Sam Tetherow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Color me jaded, but how can you get a zero truck roll CPE in 5.4-5.9 unlicensed? Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless jeffrey thomas wrote: Guys, Just got out of training for the new

Re: [WISPA] 3650 equipment

2006-05-30 Thread jeffrey thomas
- Original Message - From: jeffrey thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 4:02 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650 equipment The benchmark is the ability to provide NLOS, portable or fixed service to at least a 2 mile radius per

Re: [WISPA] 3650 equipment

2006-05-24 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
--- CWLab Technology Architects http://www.cwlab.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jeffrey thomas Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 11:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] 3650 equipment

Re: [WISPA] 3650 equipment

2006-05-24 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
service to 2000 subscribers? I can't say due to non disclosure agreements. The funny thing about them Is they got the STA's and have yet to really use them, so all the money They spent on lawyers obtaining the STA's is going to waste anyways. jack jeffrey thomas wrote: Jack

Re: [WISPA] 700 mhz Public Safety State License

2006-05-23 Thread jeffrey thomas
Actually, on the Ap Side Airspan is around 5000.00 and 400 or so for the CPE. - Jeff On Tue, 23 May 2006 08:43:29 -0500 (CDT), Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Tue, 23 May 2006, Jon Langeler wrote: If your looking for equipment manufacturers, you'll be looking at companies like

Re: [WISPA] 700 mhz Public Safety State License

2006-05-23 Thread jeffrey thomas
www.airmatrix.com On Tue, 23 May 2006 09:25:51 -0700, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: So where is my danged wifi cpe that can keep a list of 36 ap's and is smart enough to switch between them automatically? sheesh I could have sold thousands of these over the

Re: [WISPA] 3650 equipment

2006-05-23 Thread jeffrey thomas
sure. On Tue, 23 May 2006 12:58:34 -0700, George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I understood that the 3650 was not to be used in commercial links. I'm assuming money makes it commercial. I would like to deploy a couple links for non paying situations, cameras for a city park. I'd also like

RE: [WISPA] 3650 equipment

2006-05-23 Thread jeffrey thomas
Patrick, It doesnt change the fact that many have launched limited deployments as a test but still charged for the access service, banking on the fact that the FCC has set the band aside for unlicensed anyways, and that the chance of the FCC cracking down on them is very low. Im not saying this

Re: [WISPA] 3650 equipment

2006-05-23 Thread jeffrey thomas
will likely turn out to be their own worst enemy 4. NOT someone who I could rely upon to provide me reliable, long-term WISP service. jack jeffrey thomas wrote: Patrick, It doesnt change the fact that many have launched limited deployments as a test but still charged

RE: [WISPA] 3650 equipment

2006-05-23 Thread jeffrey thomas
turn out to be their own worst enemy 4. NOT someone who I could rely upon to provide me reliable, long-term WISP service. jack jeffrey thomas wrote: Patrick, It doesnt change the fact that many have launched limited deployments as a test but still charged

RE: [WISPA] 3650 equipment

2006-05-23 Thread jeffrey thomas
jeffrey thomas wrote: Patrick, It doesnt change the fact that many have launched limited deployments as a test but still charged for the access service, banking on the fact that the FCC has set the band aside for unlicensed anyways, and that the chance of the FCC cracking down on them

Re: [WISPA] 4.9 space

2006-05-10 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
That wouldn't be correct- because the 2.4 access and 4.9 distribution layers are 2 different things. So essentially the distribution layer would only be legal for the muni to connect to ( the 4.9 layer ) - Jeff On 5/10/06 12:30 AM, Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bump... On Wed, 26

Re: [WISPA] Wimax Hardware for sale?

2006-05-05 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
Aperto packetwave is your best bet then, contact me off list for details. - Jeff On 5/5/06 8:10 AM, Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Patrick Leary wrote: But which WiMAX are you talking about? There are lots of versions and the one version that no one has...and no one should be

Re: [WISPA] What's next for the forward looking WISP?

2006-05-02 Thread jeffrey thomas
HEY NOW, out here in eastern washington we dont need none of that high falootin facts to back up our research. as the great steven cobert would say, we just know if something is right, based on our gut feelings. ;) Jeff On Tue, 02 May 2006 13:29:08 -0600, Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo BH

2006-04-26 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
Title: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo BH The biggest issue I have heard or seen with tranzeo BHs is if you are running a flat network ( ie your pops are not routed @ the edge ) they have a lot of trouble passing a large bridge table. - Jeff On 4/26/06 12:21 PM, Jory Privett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[WISPA] Leasing IP classes?

2006-04-25 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
Hey folks, I was wondering if anyone knew of companies that lease class C's to small ISP's looking for the ablity to announce the leased IP classes as their own As to avoid being locked in to a specific provider. Please let me know If you know of anyone. Best, Jeff Booher -- WISPA Wireless

Re: [WISPA] Leasing IP classes?

2006-04-25 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
Arin isnt an option I don't think because these guys arent multi-homed yet. - Jeff On 4/25/06 9:35 AM, David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, April 25, 2006 11:26 am, Jeffrey Thomas wrote: I was wondering if anyone knew of companies that lease class C's to small ISP's looking

Re: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes

2006-04-24 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
Then there are companies like airmatrix that charge less than 1k per node. The key with mesh is density, and many mesh startup's fail because they Underbuild their networks. - Jeff On 4/24/06 7:53 AM, John J. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know what equipment they are using, but

Re: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes

2006-04-24 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
there is no specifications for that either. For example, many photo-cell taps are limited to 240v, but many street lights are 277v/480v. -Matt Jeffrey Thomas wrote: Airmatrix offers very similar features for less than 1/3 the cost of tropos. They also ofer Pole mounted power, and actually

[WISPA] do you use tranzeo?

2006-04-18 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
I am trying to find out how many folks out there use low cost CPE like tranzeo. please hit me off list if you do. Best, Jeff -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-13 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
agreed, VL is far from carrier grade On Apr 12, 2006, at 9:16 AM, Charles Wu wrote: snip Motorola designed Canopy specifically for the WISP market, not the carrier market. Alvarion designed VL specifically for the carrier market, not the WISP market. /snip Ah, the mis-perceptions of the

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-13 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
Steve, What defines something as carrier grade should also be: 1. Scalablity 2. True QOS ( QOS performance in the upstream and downstream ) On Apr 12, 2006, at 9:38 AM, Steve Stroh wrote: John: Here's my working definition of carrier grade: Designed for use by carriers Suitable for use

Re: [WISPA] 4.9GHz gear

2006-04-11 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
Airspan has an 802.16a 4.9 product ( Not wimax, because there is no interoperability and no profile for interop in 4.9 for wimax )  that they just got certified with the FCC. Give me an email if you want some pricing.-JeffOn Apr 10, 2006, at 4:14 PM, Jason Hensley wrote: Anyone have some pricing

Re: [WISPA] Un- licensed WIMAX?

2006-04-05 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
is interoperability! The market is going to have to sort out the vendors who falsely claim WiMAX for their systems; apparently the WiMAX Forum has no intention of doing so. Thanks, Steve On Apr 4, 2006, at 21:37, Jeffrey Thomas wrote: That is correct, however those companies are expected

Re: [WISPA] Un- licensed WIMAX?

2006-04-05 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
On Apr 5, 2006, at 9:46 AM, Charles Wu wrote: snip That is correct, however those companies are expected to be shipping product ( and are taking pre orders ) that will comply with the testing whenever the gods at wimaxforum decide to get off their collective arses and certify 5.8. Airspan for

Re: [WISPA] Un- licensed WIMAX?

2006-04-05 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
Architects http://www.cwlab.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Thomas Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 11:35 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Un- licensed WIMAX? George, I am sure there will be others

Re: [WISPA] Un- licensed WIMAX?

2006-04-05 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
Actually, I would argue that the great thing about wimax is not really interop- its lower costs on CPE. Until there is an agreed upon profile for WImax QOS, then literally everyone who buys wimax base stations will use the same manufacturers client devices. The only major difference is

Re: [WISPA] Un- licensed WIMAX?

2006-04-04 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
Indeed. Alvarion is not expected to request wimax certification until they determine a WIMAX approved QOS mechanism, at least thats what I have heard as well. - Jeff On Apr 4, 2006, at 3:29 PM, Charles Wu wrote: Alvarion VL is based on a WiFi chipset (this isn't meant to knock

Re: [WISPA] Un- licensed WIMAX?

2006-04-04 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
George, I am sure there will be others, but likely the first will be Airspan ( May is Beta ) and Aperto ( shipping in June ). Redline likely will have product as well, but based on the fact that both Aperto and Airspan have considerable experience with QOS PTMP, I would think they will

Re: [WISPA] Un- licensed WIMAX?

2006-04-04 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
industry. Thanks, Steve On Apr 4, 2006, at 11:37, jeffrey thomas wrote: George, Yes there is. Airspan and Aperto both have products and are taking orders now. - Jeff On Mon, 03 Apr 2006 08:16:46 -0700, George [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: What is going on with unlicensed WIMAX? Is there any products

[WISPA] Fwd: Bellevue WISP ??

2006-04-03 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
Can anyone help someone at this address?Begin forwarded message:From: "Ian Haight" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: April 3, 2006 5:25:47 PM PDTTo: "'Jeff Booher'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Bellevue WISP ??   Here is the address..   1621 114th ave SE Bellevue, WA 98004        -- WISPA Wireless List:

Re: [WISPA] Anyone know Verilan?

2006-02-01 Thread jeffrey thomas
If your contract with a tower specifies that you hold access rights to spectrum within the bands whether you are USING THEM currently, or not using them currently, then I would suppose your exclusive rights would hold up, but am unaware of any legal precedence to show this. There was a company

Re: [WISPA] Anyone know Verilan?

2006-01-31 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
they tried to sue us :)-JeffOn Jan 23, 2006, at 11:35 AM, Mark Koskenmaki wrote:   http://www.verilan.com/   I was hoping to have a closer additional source for things (I always try to have more than one) and these people have some stuff I use listed for sale at decent prices.   But, over the

Re: [WISPA] Anyone know Verilan?

2006-01-31 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
erity" and "Verilan" contain the element "veri". Maybe they'll sue me, too! They own the Local Area Network of Truth!.. But I've got got the Original claim to Truth. On 1/31/06, Jeffrey Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: they tried to sue us :)-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC--

Re: [WISPA] TRANGO!!

2006-01-20 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
in the city and other built up areas.  Not those of us out here with the great tree infestation. I really think the only thing that will help us out here where the trees are is a lower frequency  say below 700MHzJeffrey Thomas wrote: All, Before everyone jumps for joy, Wimax CPE

Re: [WISPA] TRANGO!!

2006-01-19 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
Because in 6 months, you will be able to buy a Wimax Cpe for 200 bucks. - Jeff On Jan 18, 2006, at 4:22 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Hope that affects the price of everything else, at this point who would by an 802.11a cpe for $250 when you can buy a trango for $150? Kurt Fankhauser

Re: [WISPA] VOIP on a shoestring

2006-01-05 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
Additionally on the whole co-op idea, there are different non profits for co-op's, which wispa is not set up as. - Jeff On Jan 5, 2006, at 11:50 AM, Charles Wu wrote: Tom, Your idea is sound, but personally, I would think that what you propose falls into the same category as the WISP

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion VL as a PtMP Platform

2006-01-05 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
/ http://www.alvarion-usa.com/presscenter/pressreleases/ -Original Message- From: jeffrey thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 8:50 PM To: WISPA General List; 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion VL as a PtMP Platform 3.5 / 2.5 / 5.8 Alvarion

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion VL as a PtMP Platform

2006-01-04 Thread jeffrey thomas
The only product on the market today that will have backwards compatibility to wimax where a cpe can talk to a wimax base station is Aperto. Additionally, Alvarion will not be one of the first round products certified for wimax, Airspan and Aperto however, will be. - Jeff On Wed, 04 Jan

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion VL as a PtMP Platform

2006-01-04 Thread jeffrey thomas
yet to get a product to market. We can discuss if you would like? Brad -Original Message- From: jeffrey thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 8:29 PM To: WISPA General List; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion VL as a PtMP Platform

Re: [WISPA] Good Backhaul?

2005-12-20 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
I would second that- you can usually find good quality ( stratex for example ) used backhauls on ebay for around a few grand. - Jeff On Dec 20, 2005, at 3:35 AM, G.Villarini wrote: John , Youre best and cheap option here is a 38 ghz lic. Backhaul. For around $1000 or less you can buy

Re: [WISPA] Canopy buying group prices

2005-12-18 Thread jeffrey thomas
Airspan can be had around 3 and change for indoor su's. outdoors around 4 and a quarter... On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 13:09:58 -0600, Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: OUCH! I have bought singles that cheap from doubleradius Mac Dearman Maximum Access, LLC. www.inetsouth.com

Re: [WISPA] RIP Vivato

2005-12-18 Thread jeffrey thomas
and 15 grand a pop. Would have never made it underneath their pricing model. Also- their first version wasnt a beam forming switch. On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 21:26:23 -0600, Joe Laura [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Ya, they kind of resembled a billboard if you ask me. Serious windload. Superior Wireless

RE: [WISPA] BellSouth and Wi-Fi

2005-12-15 Thread jeffrey thomas
/delurk Top 5 reasons why legacy navini sucks 1.SCDMA phy/mac increases latency to low of 80msec peak 280msec and avg of 100msec with 14-25% jitter. ( in english, the latency sucks arse ) 2. only truely makes sense for sub 2 mile cell NLOS deployment with BRS/MDS/ITFS Licensed spectrum. ( 2.5

Re: [WISPA] Fw:Show support

2005-09-12 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
If the donation is going to a NPO, I Think my company could make a contribution, or myself personally. So- someone let me know the details... On Sep 12, 2005, at 9:38 AM, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Another great reason to support ISPCon if you can. (For those that don't