Re: [WISPA] Wispapalooza - Where is the Gear Beef?

2017-10-13 Thread Jon Langeler
Power backup?

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Oct 13, 2017, at 12:18 PM, <t...@cherrycapitalconnection.com> 
> <t...@cherrycapitalconnection.com> wrote:
> 
> The show as matured and vendors seem to be responding in the area of
>  
> Billing system
> Network experience monitoring and cloud based monitoring
> Power backup
> Accounting and CPA service
> New cloud based add on services
>  
> Hopefully the radio manufactures respond with new and increased bandwidth 
> capacities so we can respond
>  
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List Account)
> Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 12:52 PM
> To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wispapalooza - Where is the Gear Beef?
>  
> There is just so much that it all blends together.
>  
> Cadmium had lots of stuff on their roadmap.  Lte radios,  3.65 medusa, ac gen 
> 2 epmp, etc.
>  
> I think most vendors can't afford to wait to a wispa show to launch, so they 
> launch when they're ready.
>  
> Also, the show has grown to the point where there is so much going on that 
> it's hard to pick out anything in particular.  Plus the announcements tend to 
> not be that unexpected.   Vendors have newer faster radios.  Others have 
> cooler features.  But all pretty expected.
>  
> On Oct 13, 2017 6:39 AM, "Gino A. Villarini" <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote:
> It doesn’t seen that Wispapalooza is the new gear coming out party it once 
> was? No new gear announced? Has the industry lost its shine?
>  
> Nothing new from Mimosa
>  
> UBNT just showing just another 5 ghz backhaul
>  
> Cambium with just another backhaul too? And AC Epmp… nothing spectacular 
> either
>  
> Where is the new gear in 24 ghz? Multiband backhaul? (5,24,60), more 60 ghz? 
> SFP ports? 
>  
> 
> Gino A. Villarini
> 
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> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
> 
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Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Fwd: Re: Puerto Rico assistance

2017-09-29 Thread Jon Langeler
Apparently Tesla has made way to the island with Powerwalls and technicians. 

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Sep 29, 2017, at 4:26 PM, Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote:
> 
> Lol similar situation here… all hotels booked by FEMA/DHS staff… little 
> action 
> 
> From: <wireless-boun...@wispa.org> on behalf of Michael Meluskey 
> <m...@broadband.vi>
>  
> 
> Gino A. Villarini
> 
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
> 
> 
> Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
> Date: Friday, September 29, 2017 at 12:50 PM
> To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
> Cc: "memb...@wispa.org" <memb...@wispa.org>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Fwd: Re: Puerto Rico assistance
> 
> As are US Virgin Islanders.
> We have seen FEMA / DHS talk a big game in the VI, but they have accomplished 
> very little.  They did send the marines to clear a remote road on St. John.  
> No fuel help, no transport help.  But they have filled all our hotel rooms 
> and are enjoying room service and air conditioning.
> Mike - going on a diesel fuel run to a remote tower site
> 
>> On Sep 29, 2017, at 12:16 PM, Jack Unger <jun...@ask-wi.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens. 
>> 
>> The Internet is "critical infrastructure".  
>> 
>> Is there anything that WISPA can do in Washington D.C. to "remind" the FCC, 
>> FEMA and DHS of these facts and light a fire under their butts? 
>> 
>> jack
>> 
>>> On 9/27/2017 7:20 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:
>>> We are in touch with FEMA and DHS… but no help… 
>>> 
>>> From: <members-boun...@wispa.org> on behalf of Michael Meluskey 
>>> <m...@broadband.vi>
>>> Reply-To: "memb...@wispa.org" <memb...@wispa.org>
>>> Date: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 at 3:41 PM
>>> To: "memb...@wispa.org" <memb...@wispa.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] Fwd: Re: [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance
>>> 
>>> Hi Guys,
>>> Broadband VI is in a similar predicament as Gino.  We had double the 
>>> pleasure, Irma for St. Thomas and St. John, Maria for St. Croix.
>>> We are taking advantage of private relief aircraft for our critical 
>>> material.
>>> 
>>> Since Aeronet is critical infrastructure, FEMA and DHS have people 
>>> dedicated to helping Telcos.  Gino needs to find these people and have them 
>>> ship down the gear he needs.
>>> 
>>> Mike Meluskey
>>> Broadband VI
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>>> 
>>>> President
>>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 27, 2017, at 3:31 PM, Jack Unger <jun...@ask-wi.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>  Forwarded Message 
>>>> Subject:   Re: [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance
>>>> Date:  Tue, 26 Sep 2017 23:03:07 -0400
>>>> From:  Brian Webster <i...@wirelessmapping.com>
>>>> Reply-To:  WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>> To:'WISPA General List' <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>> 
>>>> Daniel,
>>>> I am heading up the WECAT response for this. Please send 
>>>> me an email to bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com. Gino Villarini is a large 
>>>> WISP on the island who has requested help. The problem is logistics right 
>>>> now. His replacement equipment is still stateside and we are working on 
>>>> ways to get it to him. He has asked that I coordinate the manpower 
>>>> resources and response. There are no scheduled commercial flights to the 
>>>> island yet. Until he gets the equipment there,. Having people show up is 
>>>> not prudent. He is working on a detailed manpower list for me once that 
>>>> equipment hits the island.
>>>>  
>>>> Thank You,
>>>> Brian Webster
>>>> www.wirelessmapping.com
>>>> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>>>>  
>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
>>>> Behalf Of Daniel K
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 7:10 PM
>>>> To: wireless@wispa.org
>>>> Subject: [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance
>>>>  
>>>> Back in 2005 Mac Dearman had organized some relief for the g

Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Fwd: Re: Puerto Rico assistance

2017-09-29 Thread Jon Langeler
We send aid money to other countries. It seems like help nearby would be more 
'ready to go'.

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Sep 29, 2017, at 4:47 PM, Jan-OOLLC <j.vank...@oregononline.net> wrote:
> 
> I fail to understand why the Navy CBs haven't been deployed.  They are 
> trained and equipped for just such a project.  US citizens are now probably 
> dying while the emperor fiddles.  WIPS don't get the recognition we deserve 
> as service providers, we need laws that stop the big companies from trampling 
> over us and profiteering from our labor.  
> JV
> 
>> On 09/29/2017 09:38 AM, Coran, Steve wrote:
>> To the extent any WISPA member needs relief from FCC rules in an emergency 
>> situation (e.g., an STA to operate at variance from FCC licenses), that is 
>> something that we are prepared to do.  But, that need is not known right 
>> now.  I understand Gino is in contact with the feds on the ground in PR, and 
>> Mike Meluskey has reported that he is working with them in USVI.  Brian 
>> Webster and I are communicating about equipment delivery, but I’m not sure 
>> if that is a FEMA/DHS issue or not.  There is equipment stateside for Gino, 
>> we just need to get it there.  I know Brian is working hard on that, and 
>> I’ve tried as well.
>>  
>> Stephen E. Coran
>> Lerman Senter PLLC |2001 L Street, NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20036
>> 202-416-6744 (o) | 202-669-3288 (m) | sco...@lermansenter.com  |@stevecoran 
>> – twitter
>>  
>> From: members-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
>> Of Jack Unger
>> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 12:16 PM
>> To: memb...@wispa.org; WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] Fwd: Re: [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance
>>  
>> Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens.
>> 
>> The Internet is "critical infrastructure". 
>> 
>> Is there anything that WISPA can do in Washington D.C. to "remind" the FCC, 
>> FEMA and DHS of these facts and light a fire under their butts?
>> 
>> jack
>> 
>>  
>> On 9/27/2017 7:20 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:
>> We are in touch with FEMA and DHS… but no help… 
>>  
>> From: <members-boun...@wispa.org> on behalf of Michael Meluskey 
>> <m...@broadband.vi>
>> Reply-To: "memb...@wispa.org" <memb...@wispa.org>
>> Date: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 at 3:41 PM
>> To: "memb...@wispa.org" <memb...@wispa.org>
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] Fwd: Re: [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance
>>  
>> Hi Guys,
>> Broadband VI is in a similar predicament as Gino.  We had double the 
>> pleasure, Irma for St. Thomas and St. John, Maria for St. Croix.
>> We are taking advantage of private relief aircraft for our critical material.
>>  
>> Since Aeronet is critical infrastructure, FEMA and DHS have people dedicated 
>> to helping Telcos.  Gino needs to find these people and have them ship down 
>> the gear he needs.
>>  
>> Mike Meluskey
>> Broadband VI
>>  
>>  
>> 
>> Gino A. Villarini
>> 
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 27, 2017, at 3:31 PM, Jack Unger <jun...@ask-wi.com> wrote:
>>  
>> 
>>  Forwarded Message 
>> Subject:
>> Re: [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance
>> Date:
>> Tue, 26 Sep 2017 23:03:07 -0400
>> From:
>> Brian Webster <i...@wirelessmapping.com>
>> Reply-To:
>> WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
>> To:
>> 'WISPA General List' <wireless@wispa.org>
>>  
>> 
>> Daniel,
>> I am heading up the WECAT response for this. Please send me 
>> an email to bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com. Gino Villarini is a large WISP on 
>> the island who has requested help. The problem is logistics right now. His 
>> replacement equipment is still stateside and we are working on ways to get 
>> it to him. He has asked that I coordinate the manpower resources and 
>> response. There are no scheduled commercial flights to the island yet. Until 
>> he gets the equipment there,. Having people show up is not prudent. He is 
>> working on a detailed manpower list for me once that equipment hits the 
>> island.
>>  
>> Thank You,
>> Brian Webster
>> www.wirelessmapping.com
>> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>>  
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Daniel K
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 7:10 PM
>> T

Re: [WISPA] Source for Fortigate reseller

2017-05-12 Thread Jon Langeler
What's some of the selling points with Fortigate?

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On May 12, 2017, at 4:34 PM, Mike Francis <mfran...@jmfsolutions.net> wrote:
> 
> We are a Forigate partner and do a lot of Fortigate business. I will send you 
> a quote.
> 
> Thank you,
> John Michael Francis II
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> "People are unreasonable, illogical, and self-centered. Love them anyway. If 
> you do good, people may accuse you of selfish motives. Do good anyway. If you 
> are successful, you may win false friends and true enemies. Succeed anyway. 
> The good you do today may be forgotten tomorrow. Do good anyway. Honesty and 
> transparency make you vulnerable. Be honest and transparent anyway. What you 
> spend years building may be destroyed overnight. Build anyway. People who 
> really want help may attack you if you help them. Help them anyway. Give the 
> world the best you have and you may get hurt. Give the world your best 
> anyway." By: Mother Teresa
>> On 5/12/2017 3:15 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:
>> Need a quote for 30 FortiWifi-30E units 
>>  
>> 
>> Gino A. Villarini
>> 
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>> 
>> 
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for a switch...

2017-04-17 Thread Jon Langeler
Edgeswitch lite especially if you like vlans. Or netonix 

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Apr 17, 2017, at 9:47 PM, Blair Davis <the...@wmwisp.net> wrote:
> 
> Looking for a good rack mount unmanaged switch with at least thirty (30) 
> 10/100/1000 ports and at least 1 SPF optical port for 1G.
> 
> Don't need or want POE or any special features not listed above.
> 
> Vendors, feel free to email me a link...
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Re: [WISPA] Cambium 450, 450m, and epmp in 5.X GHz Comparison

2017-03-21 Thread Jon Langeler
It can happen. I recommend using maybe an omni for the VERY close in customers 
or a second 'radio layer' for the close in...Like 50'-1500'

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Mar 21, 2017, at 1:38 PM, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net> wrote:
> 
> Client on east AP interfering with west AP.
> 
> 
> 
> -
> Mike Hammett
> 
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP
> 
> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 11:45:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cambium 450, 450m, and epmp in 5.X GHz Comparison
> 
> But they'll listen at the same time, too, from CPEs on the other AP.
> 
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
>> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 12:38 PM, Seth Mattinen <se...@rollernet.us> wrote:
>> On 3/21/17 09:31, Marco Coelho wrote:
>> > Those using the 450m, are you having to put anything behind the to
>> > increase the F/B ratio instead of physical separation?
>> >
>> 
>> 
>> The sectors hearing each other isn't really an issue with GPS sync since
>> they will all TX at the same time.
>> 
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Re: [WISPA] Procera vs Sandive

2017-02-15 Thread Jon Langeler
So what's the price comparisons?

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Feb 15, 2017, at 10:35 PM, Matt Hoppes <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> I see no one replied.  I don't know the cost of Sandvine. @Paging Jeff 
> Broadwick.
> 
> Procera ends up being around ridiculously cheap when I looked at them 
> just a few days ago... like so cheap I'm stupid not to do it.
> 
>> On 2/12/17 7:29 PM, Colton Conor wrote:
>> How much does Procera and Sandive cost for WISP deployements? How are
>> these products priced, and where do they fit into the network? Which of
>> the two vendors has the better solution for WISPs, FTTH, and DSL
>> networks? Is one more focused on the WISP market than the other?
>> 
>> Do you deploy either of these two solutions? Would you deploy them again
>> if you were building from the ground up? Are there technologies required
>> when bandwidth is cheap, and the access network (GPON for example) has
>> little to no congestion?
>> 
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Re: [WISPA] Issues turning up Cambium 820S

2017-01-29 Thread Jon Langeler
Dual pol antennas? Make sure you have the hollow or circular waveguide as 
opposed to slotted. Not sure..

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Jan 29, 2017, at 12:51 PM, Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote:
> 
> 8.7
> 
> From: <wireless-boun...@wispa.org> on behalf of Jon Langeler 
> <jon-ispli...@michwave.net>
>  
> 
> Gino Villarini
> 
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
> 
> 
> Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
> Date: Sunday, January 29, 2017 at 1:44 PM
> To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Issues turning up Cambium 820S
> 
> Firmware version?
> 
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
> 
> 
> On Jan 29, 2017, at 12:40 PM, Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote:
> 
>> I have:
>> 
>> Radio 1, Admin UP , Operational UP
>> Radio 2, Admin UP , Operational Down
>> 
>> Funny thing is, we used 1 script for alignment ( 5 mhz channel, low
>> modulation), Aligned, got target, changed script to bigger channelŠ
>> kaputt!
>> 
>> On 1/29/17, 11:50 AM, "wireless-boun...@wispa.org on behalf of Seth
>> Mattinen" <wireless-boun...@wispa.org on behalf of se...@rollernet.us>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Gino Villarini
>> 
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>> 
>> 
>> >On 1/29/17 2:38 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
>> >> This is what I have
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >Platform -> Manager -> Interface Manager
>> >Check for admin up.
>> >
>> >Did you check the stickers to make sure you didn't get shipped two of
>> >the same unit instead of a high/low pair? I don't know if the UI would
>> >let you configure the frequencies backwards, can't say I've tried that
>> >on any of mine.
>> >
>> >~Seth
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Re: [WISPA] Issues turning up Cambium 820S

2017-01-29 Thread Jon Langeler
Firmware version?

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Jan 29, 2017, at 12:40 PM, Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote:
> 
> I have:
> 
> Radio 1, Admin UP , Operational UP
> Radio 2, Admin UP , Operational Down
> 
> Funny thing is, we used 1 script for alignment ( 5 mhz channel, low
> modulation), Aligned, got target, changed script to bigger channelŠ
> kaputt!
> 
> On 1/29/17, 11:50 AM, "wireless-boun...@wispa.org on behalf of Seth
> Mattinen" <wireless-boun...@wispa.org on behalf of se...@rollernet.us>
> wrote:
> 
>  
> 
> Gino Villarini
> 
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
> 
> 
> >On 1/29/17 2:38 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
> >> This is what I have
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >Platform -> Manager -> Interface Manager
> >Check for admin up.
> >
> >Did you check the stickers to make sure you didn't get shipped two of
> >the same unit instead of a high/low pair? I don't know if the UI would
> >let you configure the frequencies backwards, can't say I've tried that
> >on any of mine.
> >
> >~Seth
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Re: [WISPA] Issues turning up Cambium 820S

2017-01-28 Thread Jon Langeler
Under configuration management of interfaces. 

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Jan 28, 2017, at 1:56 PM, Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote:
> 
> MMR is configured 
> 
> How do I bring up administrative status?
> 
> I'm hating this gui
> 
> 
> 
> Gino A. Villarini
> @gvillarini
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> Gino Villarini
> 
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
> 
> 
> On Jan 28, 2017, at 2:31 PM, Christian Palecek <christ...@cybernet1.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>> There is a lot it could be, and they are somewhat counter intuitive.  If 
>> you'd like extra help hit me offlist.
>> 
>> -Christian
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>> 
>>  Original message 
>> From: Jon Langeler <jon-ispli...@michwave.net>
>> Date: 1/28/17 10:49 AM (GMT-07:00)
>> To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Issues turning up Cambium 820S
>> 
>> Adminstrative status is set to up? MRMC or whatever it's called is setup?
>> 
>> Jon Langeler
>> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 28, 2017, at 11:37 AM, Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> I cant get the Radio interface UP
>>> 
>>> Radio Interface operational status: Down 
>>> 
>>> Any ideas?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Gino Villarini
>>> 
>>> President
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>>> 
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Re: [WISPA] Issues turning up Cambium 820S

2017-01-28 Thread Jon Langeler
Adminstrative status is set to up? MRMC or whatever it's called is setup?

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Jan 28, 2017, at 11:37 AM, Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> I cant get the Radio interface UP
> 
> Radio Interface operational status: Down 
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
>  
> 
> Gino Villarini
> 
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Ping monitoring?

2017-01-19 Thread Jon Langeler
Advanced ping looks like a winner. Up/down monitoring and bandwidth monitoring 
only goes so far to know whats going on. Smokeping doesn't scale really well 

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Jan 19, 2017, at 7:59 PM, Tim Way <t...@way.vg> wrote:
> 
> Are you able to provide any background as to what your goal is? What are you 
> looking to accomplish?
> 
>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 8:35 PM, Jon Langeler <jon-ispli...@michwave.net> 
>> wrote:
>> I can't get smokeping to send a ping say every second and only one each 
>> time. Any alternatives or suggestions?
>> 
>> Jon Langeler
>> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
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[WISPA] Ping monitoring?

2017-01-19 Thread Jon Langeler
I can't get smokeping to send a ping say every second and only one each time. 
Any alternatives or suggestions? 

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[WISPA] Charge for remote thermostat?

2017-01-17 Thread Jon Langeler
Customer wants to have control of their thermostat and heading south for 3-6 
months. I'm guessing they want a $5/mo connection. Suggestions on how to handle 
or charge for this?

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Re: [WISPA] cnMaestro

2016-11-30 Thread Jon Langeler
So is cnMaestro free and will it always be like that? Any catches?

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Nov 30, 2016, at 1:39 PM, Art Stephens <asteph...@ptera.com> wrote:
> 
> Too bad I do not have zvol
> 
> dd: failed to open â/dev/zvol/Storage/vm-100-disk-1â: No such file or 
> directory
> 
>> On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 5:26 AM, Larry A. Weidig <lwei...@excel.net> wrote:
>> Art:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> We have actually went through this process and here is the documentation for 
>> the setup from our docs server, hope it helps:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 1. Login to the virtualization host as root where this image will be 
>> initially built and run the following commands to download the image and 
>> prepare it for installation in our Proxmox environment:
>> 
>> mkdir cnMaestro
>> cd cnMaestro
>> lynx https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/files/cnmaestro/ # Login and 
>> download OVA image 
>> tar -xvf *.ova
>> qemu-img convert -f vmdk cnmaestro-on-premises_1.2.1-r1_amd64-disk1.vmdk -O 
>> qcow2 qcowdisk.qcow2
>> 2. The using the Proxmox UI create a virtual machine with the following 
>> system specs:
>> 
>> Item
>> 
>> Value
>> 
>> Name
>> 
>> cor-cnm-00.excel.net
>> 
>> OS
>> 
>> Linux 4.x /3.x / 2.6 Kernel
>> 
>> CD / DVD
>> 
>> Do not use any media
>> 
>> Hard Disk
>> 
>> Bus: IDE, Storage: zfdStorage, Size: 80
>> 
>> CPU
>> 
>> Sockets: 2, Cores: 2
>> 
>> Memory
>> 
>> Fixed: 4096
>> 
>> Network
>> 
>> Bridged mode, Model: Intel E1000
>> 
>> Hardware
>> 
>> Display: VMware compatible (vmware)
>> 
>> 3. We now need to get the disk image into the newly created virtual 
>> machine using the following commands as root from the folder created above:
>> 
>> modprobe nbd max_part=63
>> qemu-nbd -c /dev/nbd0 /root/cnMaestro/qcowdisk.qcow2
>> dd if=/dev/nbd0 of=/dev/zvol/Storage/vm-NNN-disk-1 bs=1M # Replace NNN with 
>> the actual vmid for machine created in last step, this will take a while
>> 4. Fire it up using the Proxmox console.  It will initially have some 
>> issues waiting for network configuration, do not worry and just wait it out. 
>>  Once booted login to the console using the username of cambium and password 
>> of cnmaestro.  
>> 
>> 5. At the Operations menu setup the Network and Password options as 
>> appropriate for the environment and then Reboot the server to make sure it 
>> comes up with the new settings.
>> 
>> 6. Immediately login to the WebUI using the username admin and password 
>> admin.  Change the password and create a second administrator account for 
>> access!  NOTE: Google Chrome seems to have issues with the site.
>> 
>> 7. At this point the server is up and running as needed.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net)
>> 
>> Excel.Net, Inc. – http://www.excel.net/
>> 
>> (920) 452-0455 – Sheboygan/Plymouth area
>> 
>> (888) 489-9995 – Other areas, toll-free
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Art Stephens
>> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 5:16 PM
>> To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
>> Subject: [WISPA] cnMaestro
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Anyone successfully install the cnMaestro On-Premises VA on Proxmox?
>> 
>>  
>> 
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>> 
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>> PO Box 135
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Re: [WISPA] cnMaestro

2016-11-29 Thread Jon Langeler
What's the selling point of Proxmox over VMware?

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Nov 28, 2016, at 6:16 PM, Art Stephens <asteph...@ptera.com> wrote:
> 
> Anyone successfully install the cnMaestro On-Premises VA on Proxmox?
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Safety One Tower Training

2016-10-08 Thread Jon Langeler
CITCA is another 

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> On Oct 8, 2016, at 6:35 PM, David Funderburk <df...@globalvision.net> wrote:
> 
> We have sent one person to Safety One and one to Commtrain.  There was 
> nothing wrong with Safety One if you are looking for a crash course. If it's 
> a long term employee who will be doing a lot of climbing, Commtrain is much 
> more thorough.  There is a third tower training company but I've forgotten 
> their name.  They have been a WISPA member in the past. They seem to be 
> better than the two listed above but I have not tried them yet.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> David Funderburk
> GlobalVision
> 864-569-0703
>> On 08/10/2016 18:29, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>> 
>> Who do you get certified as when done?
>>  
>> How does it compare to CommTrain certification any idea?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Oct 8, 2016, at 5:59 PM, Dustin Stock <dst...@aristotle.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I went to their course last year. It's basic climbing and rescue training. 
>>> So first half of day is going over easy course materials and testing and 
>>> last half is the basic climbing and rescue mentioned above
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 8, 2016, at 2:36 PM, Matt Hoppes (Wireless Ninja Lists) 
>>>> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Has anyone here taken the safety one tower training course?  What should 
>>>> be expected for the one day tower course?
>>>> 
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Re: [WISPA] Any Licensed MW gear doing Channel Aggregation?

2016-09-21 Thread Jon Langeler
PTP820 can do special things but it's pricey 

Jon Langeler
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Direct 616.350.8080

> On Sep 21, 2016, at 12:36 PM, Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote:
> 
> I got  paths were we have several licenses for 30 mhz  and 40 mhz channels, 
> any gear supports channel aggregation? 
>  
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Re: [WISPA] Shielding FM noise with conduit?

2016-09-09 Thread Jon Langeler
I'm not sure your investment analysis is adding up. All it takes is adding 1-2 
customers to cover your $1200 estimate...

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.

> On Sep 8, 2016, at 11:30 PM, Chadwick Wachs <c...@auwireless.net> wrote:
> 
> Agree fiber is the long term solution. No argument there and it is in the 
> capital budget.  What is stopping us right now is the cost. We are a 
> non-profit so having to buy two EdgePoints (due to the "H" shape of the 
> tower, we are on both legs) and two fiber cables - as well as the fiber 
> transceivers in the building. That is a ~$1200 investment. Small for a larger 
> WISP but significant for us.
> 
> We have most of the conduit and a spool of UBNT ToughCable Carrier wire. 
> Total cost for conduit is ~$50.
> 
> What I want now is a workable solution to RF interference. The Ferrite 
> solution has worked to some degree with us but two new FM stations were just 
> added so the problem is only getting worse.
> 
> Will steel EMT conduit help FM noise? If so, it is a cost effective immediate 
> fix for us. And it will make running the fiber/power easier down the road 
> when we can afford to fix this for good.
> 
> If conduit will have no effect on FM noise, I won't waste the time and will 
> stick with the Ferrite solution for now. 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 9:19 PM, Timothy Steele <timothy.pct...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> Running fiber up a tower is low cost and easy now days.. 
>> https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgepoint/
>> 
>> What's stopping you from doing fiber?
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016, 10:45 PM Kevin Lamothe <klamo...@vianet.ca> wrote:
>>> No problem here. I had to use a DC to DC converter though since my sites 
>>> are negative DC.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On September 8, 2016 10:28:11 PM EDT, "Shawn C. Peppers" 
>>>> <videodirectwispal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Its been 7 months or more since i had the issue.  I heard they planned to 
>>>> fix it.
>>>> 
>>>> Shawn C. Peppers
>>>> Video Direct Satellite & Entertainment
>>>> 866-680-8433 Toll Free
>>>> 480-287-9960 Fax
>>>> http://www.video-direct.tv
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 9:10 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> And this is on the latest revisions?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 8, 2016 10:02 PM, "Shawn C. Peppers" 
>>>>>> <videodirectwispal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> I belive its only on the DC version.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Shawn C. Peppers
>>>>>> Video Direct Satellite & Entertainment
>>>>>> 866-680-8433 Toll Free
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> > On Sep 8, 2016, at 8:44 PM, Craig House <cr...@totalhighspeed.net> 
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Do Netonix have the same issue with ac power source or just dc input 
>>>>>> > interference
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> On Sep 8, 2016, at 20:42, Seth Mattinen <se...@rollernet.us> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On 9/8/16 6:34 PM, Jon Langeler wrote:
>>>>>> >>> Was the Netonix in a metal enclosure?
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Wasn't the problem that it's picking up the FM noise from the DC input
>>>>>> >> i.e. the copper cable running up the tower?
>>>>>> >>
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Re: [WISPA] Shielding FM noise with conduit?

2016-09-08 Thread Jon Langeler
Was the Netonix in a metal enclosure? 

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.

> On Sep 8, 2016, at 9:23 PM, Shawn C. Peppers <videodirectwispal...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I would NOT use a netonix on a FM tower unless they have fully fixed the 
> issue that was causing fm noise from the tower to effect the power chip in 
> the netonix switch.  You will always have issues unless you run fiber and a 
> shielded power cable up the tower.  I have had nothing but flawless results 
> using the edgepoint 16 and making sure i put MC metal jacket on the cat5 from 
> the edgepoint to the radios. 
> 
> Shawn C. Peppers
> Video Direct Satellite & Entertainment
> 866-680-8433 Toll Free
> 480-287-9960 Fax
> http://www.video-direct.tv
> 
>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 8:14 PM, Chadwick Wachs <c...@auwireless.net> wrote:
>> 
>> You are right, fiber IS the best long term solution. Not a possibility just 
>> yet but will be down the road.  So, maybe I re-phrase. :-) Is conduit a 
>> workable shorter term solution with shielded cable inside or will it not 
>> provide the RF protection the Ethernet needs? It will certainly make pulling 
>> the fiber and DC easier when we go that route.
>> 
>> Problem with fiber today is we are on a "H" shaped antenna tower and have 
>> antennas on both legs of the "H" which requires two fiber runs and two 
>> Netonix switches. Not in the budget just yet.
>> 
>>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 7:07 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> Fiber and DC to Netonix.  Shielded cable to your radios hopefully with 
>>> minimal distance.
>>> 
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 8, 2016 9:03 PM, "Chadwick Wachs" <c...@auwireless.net> wrote:
>>>> With two new FM stations moving onto the tower I am on, I need to solve 
>>>> the FM noise problem once and for all.  I've been using Ferrites on each 
>>>> end of the Ethernet cable and its been pretty successful but I need to add 
>>>> a couple more antennas so I am considering conduit.
>>>> 
>>>> This is not my area of expertise but from what I read, it sounds like 
>>>> running conduit up the tower (only 75' for my antennas) is the best long 
>>>> term solution?  My plan was to buy some 3/4" EMT in 10' sections and clamp 
>>>> it to the tower from bottom to top and run my shielded cables inside of 
>>>> that. 
>>>> 
>>>> Is that the route to go?  I am guessing I want to keep my service loops at 
>>>> the top of the conduit pretty short or I negate what I just did. I do have 
>>>> longer loops at the bottom in the building so my Ethernet cables are 
>>>> longer than my antenna ground wires. I'm planning on not putting Ferrites 
>>>> on the cables that are in the conduit.
>>>> 
>>>> Tower has 5 FM stations on it, a 900mhz paging company and two UHF DTV 
>>>> stations - along with some other 5 Ghz stuff.  The FM stations are "lower" 
>>>> power (250 - 400 watts) but it sounds like those are the culprit for 
>>>> Ethernet issues (other than AM which is no where near this tower).
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for the advice.
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Re: [WISPA] Shielding FM noise with conduit?

2016-09-08 Thread Jon Langeler
+1

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> On Sep 8, 2016, at 9:07 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
> 
> Fiber and DC to Netonix.  Shielded cable to your radios hopefully with 
> minimal distance.
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
> 
>> On Sep 8, 2016 9:03 PM, "Chadwick Wachs" <c...@auwireless.net> wrote:
>> With two new FM stations moving onto the tower I am on, I need to solve the 
>> FM noise problem once and for all.  I've been using Ferrites on each end of 
>> the Ethernet cable and its been pretty successful but I need to add a couple 
>> more antennas so I am considering conduit.
>> 
>> This is not my area of expertise but from what I read, it sounds like 
>> running conduit up the tower (only 75' for my antennas) is the best long 
>> term solution?  My plan was to buy some 3/4" EMT in 10' sections and clamp 
>> it to the tower from bottom to top and run my shielded cables inside of 
>> that. 
>> 
>> Is that the route to go?  I am guessing I want to keep my service loops at 
>> the top of the conduit pretty short or I negate what I just did. I do have 
>> longer loops at the bottom in the building so my Ethernet cables are longer 
>> than my antenna ground wires. I'm planning on not putting Ferrites on the 
>> cables that are in the conduit.
>> 
>> Tower has 5 FM stations on it, a 900mhz paging company and two UHF DTV 
>> stations - along with some other 5 Ghz stuff.  The FM stations are "lower" 
>> power (250 - 400 watts) but it sounds like those are the culprit for 
>> Ethernet issues (other than AM which is no where near this tower).
>> 
>> Thanks for the advice.
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Re: [WISPA] wtb 11 ghz link - Mimosa B11

2016-08-31 Thread Jon Langeler
Are deployments with them going good? Working as expected?

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.

> On Aug 31, 2016, at 3:02 PM, Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> wrote:
> 
> Streakwave has them now too.
> 
> 
>> On Aug 31, 2016 1:58 PM, "Gino Villarini" <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote:
>> I don’t have one, you? 
>> 
>> From: <wireless-boun...@wispa.org> on behalf of Lisa Slusher 
>> <li...@wavonline.com>
>>  
>> 
>> Gino Villarini
>> 
>> President
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>> Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
>> Date: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 at 2:52 PM
>> To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] wtb 11 ghz link - Mimosa B11
>> 
>> Wav Wireless has stock! Give your Sales rep a call today.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
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>> 
>>  
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>> 
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>> Anyone has in stock? 
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[WISPA] 2.4 slant 18-19db panel?

2016-08-09 Thread Jon Langeler
Anyone sell one?

Jon Langeler
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[WISPA] TOS, AUP, Etc.

2016-06-15 Thread Jon Langeler
Anyone willing to share one?

Thanks 

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Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed

2009-03-10 Thread Jon Langeler
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[WISPA] 5GHz signal generator? maybe a poor mans SG?

2008-11-05 Thread Jon Langeler
We're in need of a 5-6GHz signal generator to simultaneously span a 
large portion of the 5GHz band to roughly tune some RF filters. Right 
now we're using some 802.11a cards we're having to link them up and do 
bandwidth tests to get them to 'fill up' on a RhodeSwartz SA (I suppose 
it's an expected result). Also we don't have the signal generator option 
for the SA either :-(

1. Anyone know a good way (maybe using linux, windows, or Mikrotik 
software) to get the cards to transmit fairly constant without having to 
have them connect to an SM/AP?

2. Otherwise a time/cost effective option to use another method, any 
recommendations to buy/rent a real signal generator?

Thanks!
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[WISPA] 5.5Ghz highpass/lowpass filters?

2008-10-14 Thread Jon Langeler
Anyone have any recommendations on highpass/lowpass RF filters in the 
5500Mhz range (basically to allow for either 5.3GHz or 5.8GHz)? Or any 
other 5GHz filter recommendations for that matter besides the 
Teletronics and Hyperlinks ones I've already seen?

Thanks
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Re: [WISPA] The nanostation thing....

2008-07-21 Thread Jon Langeler
I can't say whether I'm interested in your ideas yet or not. But unless you 
wanted to develop syncronization or some specific function of a centralized 
server for the base stations I don't see the point of adding  the additional 
complexity. Canopy for example has synconization without the need for 
additional 'controllers'. 

Mikrotik's RB433AH have a *LOT* of extra cpu(from our expereinces) and they're 
only $150ea! Have you thought of using 802.11n/MIMO on the downstream with dual 
polarized setup? It's too bad we didn't have an FDD spectrum allocated to WISPs 
where there were channels dedicated to upstream and downstream. Almost 
exlusively we use FDD for PTPs as opposed to HDX for a handfull of reasons. 
Similar benefits exist in PTMP situations...

Jon Langeler
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Doug Ratcliffe wrote:
 But the control point would be at the tower, not remote.  I know some WISPs 
 operate in remote areas, but this is more for a high density urban 
 deployment, similar to what you would use AirSpan or Alvarion for.

 The reasoning behind the FDD style deployment would be to help compete 
 against 10Mbps+ cable connections.  Right now a 6 AP deployment usually has 
 about 10Mbps for each AP (Canopy, Trango).  My thought is to transmit-sync a 
 50Mbps (40mhz turbo-mode) signal, with the vision that you could give fiber 
 speeds wirelessly.  Or, with 50Mbps of bandwidth (per sector) it would give 
 you the ability to serve thousands of subscribers in a high density 
 deployment.  The other though would be to be able to multicast MPEG4 video 
 over it.

 My vision is to keep us being able to compete with cable  DSL for years to 
 come without spending a fortune.  If an open source system could interface 
 with 6 NS5's ($600) plus a rackmount PC ($1000), that's a Wimax-style QOS 
 deployment for less than the price of a single Canopy unit.  The other 
 thought is that single NS5's are 802.11 and have no ability to transmit sync 
 (i.e. share frequencies) like other systems do.  By giving it the ability to 
 do that, you have an inexpensive hardware platform with $1 per AP 
 features.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 1:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] The nanostation thing


   
 Doug Ratcliffe wrote:
 
 My thoughts on this I've even mentied on the Mikrotik forum a while ago 
 were
 to have a 2 part system:

 An outdoor wireless unit (like a Nanostation) that does nothing but act 
 as a
 raw wireless interface, that connects to a master station inside the 
 tower
 control room that is the intelligence, like Wimax-style QoS, polling, 
 VOIP
 control etc.
   
 Isn't that how the Cisco solution works with a Wireless Lan Controller?
 This works great in campus
 environments which usually have a 100mbps or gigabit wired backbone, but
 not necessarily in
 WISP type deployments.

 In the case of a WISP you may have an exclusive wireless network
 (wireless link between CPE and aggregation point with WiMAX or other RF
 back haul ).
 or a hybrid model (wireless link between CPE and aggregation point with
 DSL/T1 back haul).  Having the additional network infrastructure
 overhead on networks carrying customer traffic may or may not saturate
 your pipe.

 If you have the money to build separate control and data paths great!

 
  The outside part could be connected via network switch to
 allow a failover master control unit.

   
 Certainly. You want a reliable core.
 
 I would think the inside part would be a rack mountable Intel/AMD server 
 or
 even an inexpensive workstation (since even a $250 computer has 20x the 
 CPU
 power of a Nanostation).
   
 Certainly.  Perhaps something like a mini ITX server.

 
   It would also allow the ability to sync AP
 broadcast, and maybe even include GPS sync capability.  That would allow 
 the
 outdoor unit to be minimal in flash and CPU speed but still allow high 
 speed
 communications.  Taken further into a 6x60 deg NS2/NS5 AP tower, combine
 that with mesh for tower to tower communications and have a Skypilot 
 system
 on steroids (tower to tower routing with no hop loss).

   
 Interesting. Didn't quite follow all that, but I will research it.


 
 I had taken the idea to a second level having a FDD-style system with a
 separate transmit unit and recieve unit outdoors where the CPE would 
 simply
 switch frequencies or polarities to recieve their packets, and switch 
 again
 to transmit.
   
 Seems like a massive amount of overhead. What would the reasons and
 advantages/disadvantages for such an approach be?

 
 That could allow for a 40mhz-turbo mode broadcast (GPS synced) with 5mhz
 channel upstream.  My thoughts were having the capability of sending out
 50Mbps+ downstream to clients (assuming a dumb wireless driver would be
 very light on CPU usage compared to, say, a Mikrotik unit that does
 everything but cook

[WISPA] Canopy PTP400 software?

2008-06-06 Thread Jon Langeler
Not sure what Moto's deal with this is but I can't seem to find my most 
recently purchased PTP ESN #'s and thus download the latest version. If 
anyone could save me the hassle(and what I swear is a 24hr delayed 
response on there website!!) and email it offlist that would be greatly 
appreciated...

Thanks
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[WISPA] AC relay to reboot DC (PoE devices) suggestion?

2008-05-27 Thread Jon Langeler
I'm looking for an AC relay to reboot our PoE radios and I'll explain as 
best I know. Basically we have 24/48V DC along with AC at our sites but 
our remote reboot controllers only have AC outlets on them. What I'm 
looking for is the ability to reboot our DC devices also with a sort of 
relay plugged individually into each rebootable AC port that would 
reboot each DC line individually. Any suggestions?

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Re: [WISPA] AC relay to reboot DC (PoE devices) suggestion?

2008-05-27 Thread Jon Langeler
You have a cost effective recommendation? I guess we already had all 
these AC rebooters deployed and I'd rather not have to replace them all 
and SPEND MORE MONEY if you know what I mean.

-Jon

Gino Villarini wrote:

Why not a DC rebooter? 

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Subject: [WISPA] AC relay to reboot DC (PoE devices) suggestion?

I'm looking for an AC relay to reboot our PoE radios and I'll explain as

best I know. Basically we have 24/48V DC along with AC at our sites but 
our remote reboot controllers only have AC outlets on them. What I'm 
looking for is the ability to reboot our DC devices also with a sort of 
relay plugged individually into each rebootable AC port that would 
reboot each DC line individually. Any suggestions?

Thanks

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[WISPA] unknown password on Stratex XP4?

2008-03-19 Thread Jon Langeler
Kudos to who can answer this! We have an 18GHz XP4 plus link with the 
SNMP card option deployed for years. However we never got the 
login/password for the VTY port (didn't know it would be an issue until 
now). This link might be from that larger wireless copmany that went 
bankrupt some years ago... Any ideas on how to reset/default these 
things. There's a reset button on the card itself, but holding it down 
doesn't seem to do anything but cycle power as far as we can tell. Thanks!

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Re: [WISPA] unknown password on Stratex XP4?

2008-03-19 Thread Jon Langeler
We have the manuals, seems to have a LOT of unusual information and 
missing just the stuff that I really need. I'll try that. Thanks!

-Jon


Eric Albert wrote:

Jon,

The default username/password was Admin/admin

Contact me off-list for some other options. I used to work on these
radios. 

Eric Albert
Application Engineer
Alvarion, Inc.


 
 

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Behalf Of Jon Langeler
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Kudos to who can answer this! We have an 18GHz XP4 plus link with the 
SNMP card option deployed for years. However we never got the 
login/password for the VTY port (didn't know it would be an issue until 
now). This link might be from that larger wireless copmany that went 
bankrupt some years ago... Any ideas on how to reset/default these 
things. There's a reset button on the card itself, but holding it down 
doesn't seem to do anything but cycle power as far as we can tell.
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Re: [WISPA] FDX Wireless

2008-01-04 Thread Jon Langeler
I don't want to beat this to death, but MT definitely says otherwise, 
hmmm forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=7t=20720
If anyone has some time to really investigate let me know what you find! 
:-)


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Tom DeReggi wrote:


Thats correct. Better said by Butch.

Don't get me wrong though, this is a huge benefit, for backbone 
capacity planning, to have Full Duplex at Layer3.


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IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - From: Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 12:59 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FDX Wireless



On Thu, 27 Dec 2007, Jon Langeler wrote:

Tom, just catching up on these. Is what your saying below, that 
Mikrotik's Nstreme2(dual card, FDX, PTP) still has a small amount of 
transmit occurring on the designated Rx card? I've always assumed 
that it was truly full duplex. But I've never really tested, 
wondering how sure you were on your PS below?



At the IP layer, it is true FDX.  However, NStreme (and NStreme dual) 
is based on 802.11 protocol.  There is some protocol information that 
is needed to maintain each individual link that is not happening at 
full duplex.  This is a very small amount of traffic, but is 
happening, nonetheless.


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Re: [WISPA] FDX Wireless

2007-12-27 Thread Jon Langeler
Tom, just catching up on these. Is what your saying below, that 
Mikrotik's Nstreme2(dual card, FDX, PTP) still has a small amount of 
transmit occurring on the designated Rx card? I've always assumed that 
it was truly full duplex. But I've never really tested, wondering how 
sure you were on your PS below?


Thanks

Jon Langeler
Michwave Tech.

there is still some communication going on on the

Tom DeReggi wrote:

Star OS now has a FDX option. So does Tranzeo.  (meaning a seperate 
radio card for each direction)


PS: I'd argue that no 802.11 radio is 100% true Full Duplex, meaning 
the 802.11 proto responds on the same channel, but at Layer 3 they 
seperate which channel is for sending and receiving.


For True FDX, most of the Licensed Part101 Gear does it. TrangoGiga, 
Cable Free, Dragonwave, Ceragon.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - From: Mike Hammett 
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Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 2:48 PM
Subject: [WISPA] FDX Wireless


Other than N-Streme 2, what out there is true FDX and not just HDX 
with 50/50 balancing?



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Re: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum

2007-08-25 Thread Jon Langeler

Here's some examples of why someone might want to sell their license:
undesirable lease agreement with license holder
risk of roaming alienation from larger national carriers after deployment
potential of competitive disadvantage in a given market (eg. competition 
offers national coverage)

reconsideration of long-term financial risk
recieved an offer that could not be refused
better ROI using UL bands (anything is possible) etc.

Not yet, haven't looked into it but will have to do that one of these days!
Thanks
-Jon

John Scrivner wrote:

Why would you sell away your chance to sell on a licensed platform? I 
am sure you had your reasons but I am looking for ways to deliver 
services on licensed space myself. By the way, are you not a WISPA 
member Jon?

Scriv


Jon Langeler wrote:

Why take it to the member list? I guess I won't be inclined to share 
about our experience with the license we aquired from a school and 
sold to clearwire ;-)


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Re: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum

2007-08-22 Thread Jon Langeler
Why take it to the member list? I guess I won't be inclined to share 
about our experience with the license we aquired from a school and sold 
to clearwire ;-)


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Carl A jeptha wrote:


Mac take it to the member list, as I am also interested in license.

You have a Good Day now,


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Mac Dearman wrote:


Jack,

  Most of the 2.5 and 2.3GHz spectrum has been being snatched up by 
Sprint
in the last 3 years. They aren't doing anything with it right now 
that I am
aware of, but rumor has it that they are in cahoots with Clear Wire. 
I have
a contract here between Sprint and the local educational facility 
that shows

a onetime payment of $50,000.00 and $250.00 a month. They locked the
spectrum into contract for the remainder of the 30 years. It would 
have been

nice if I had been a few months earlier on my quest!

 A man can find open/unused spectrum if he knows how/where to look in 
his
area. Drop me a line off list or on the member list and I will be 
glad to

share with you what I have learned lately.

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I have a client with a 900 MHz network that has been deployed more than
5 years. Apparently without doing a wireless site survey, the City has
deployed two 900 MHz automatic meter reading systems. One uses Itron
hardware and one use Utillicom hardware. There is now a head-to-head
battle as the City networks are creating intense interference problems
for the WISP network. I know all about interference-reduction
techniques
as I've been utilizing and teaching these techniques for years but what
I don't know about are the possibilities of leasing licensed spectrum
(2.3 or 2.5) in order to estimate the cost of moving from the 900 MHz
band to a licensed range. I'd appreciate it if anyone could offer any
advice or insight into possibly leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz frequency space.
Is this possible or is it out of the question?

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Re: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum

2007-08-22 Thread Jon Langeler
The research takes time and will probably result in dissapointment of an 
organization wanting too much money to sublet it or a cell company 
already got it. If you find a school that hasn't already leased out the 
spectrum or isn't already in talks, it is possible they don't even know 
about it and you have to educate them a little, but it's unlikely.
Negotiations are typically done between your lawyers and their lawyers. 
I'm sure the race to find/make the really good deals is mostly over but 
you never know...


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Scottie Arnett wrote:


It looks as though BellSouth and Nextel have the 2.3 and Nextel has the 2.5.
I thought they set aside some of those frequencies for schools? Can the
schools still have the license along with the big guys?

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That's a very simple process Scottie, which is achieved using the FCC Web
site. From the home page of www.fcc.gov, go to the Wireless
Telecommunications Bureau area (choice on the right, scrolled down a tad),
then go to License Search (also a choice on the right). Specifically, go
here: http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/searchLicense.jsp

On this page I prefer using the Specialized search category. Pick one and
fill in as few fields as you want. Enter more fields to narrow, etc. This
will pull up records and each of those records allows you to drill down
further to get maps, contact info, etc.

- Patrick
Alvarion

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How can I find out who owns it in my area...I think the school system still
has it, but not sure.

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Scottie,

If you think the base station is expensive, then you'd pass out knowing how
much it'd cost you to get access to just 12 MHz of either set of spectrum
even in a rural market. Put it this way, a big city would carry a price tag
well into 8 digits.

- Patrick

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Maybe a very rough number for a fixed/nomadic type base station (360
degrees) might be around $40k.

WOW! I think I will stick with unlicensed for now. The idea of customer
provided CPE is alluring, but its not that tempting for me.

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We do, and have been commercially selling 802.16e (mobile-ready WiMAX) -
called BreezeMAX 2300 and BreezeMAX 2500 all through this year.

In the licensed pmp space, especially for .16e systems, the answer of
average cost of AP and CPE is not so simple. There are many types of CPE
and there really is no AP. You have complex base station infrastructures
in these bands, with multiple levels of diversity. Maybe a very rough number
for a fixed/nomadic type base station (360 degrees) might be around $40k.
For fixed outdoor CPE, use the numbers you are used to today for quality
CPE. For indoor self-install CPE SIM-card based, bought at a retail outlet
or mailed by the operator), a rough number might be $250ish today driving
lower. PCMCIA cards are around the corner and will be obviously much
cheaper. Embedded devices, starting with laptops, are maybe less than a year
away for early versions. Embedded consumer devices will come as early as
late 2008 and will be produced in decent volumes by 2010.

Base stations to support the mobile personal broadband devices will be
require the addition of tons of things, like ASN gateways, AAA servers, etc.

Patrick
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Re: [WISPA] Nstreme2 Link

2007-08-01 Thread Jon Langeler
You definately got to use seperate frequencies, the farther apart the 
better... We've got a setup using dual-pol dishes/2.4GHz P4 CPU, and 
doing 30Mbps FDX/1ms latency at 11 miles. First one was setup a couple 
years ago...so far no problems. We get like 30Mbps FDX and ~1ms of 
latency using the 20Mhz channels. With ~10Mbps of traffic I'm seeing on 
average of 10% CPU. Sounds like we're all in the same 'boat' looking for 
a PoE capable high CPU board...


Jon Langeler
Michwave Tech.

Ralph wrote:


I am dead serious when I say this, because I have personally seen it done
before.
Don't attempt to set your two radios into that dual polarity dish on the
same frequency.
You can't create a Poor Mans Orthogon

And the usual warning (not that it matters to many):  Make sure the radios
you are using are certified with that exact antenna in order to stay within
FCC rules.
You don't want to come out on the short end of an inspection. Your radio
manufacturer can tell you what antennas are legal.

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I am wanting to install a  new backhaul link.  I need to go 6.5k with as 
much throughput as I can get (20Mb is acceptable). I was wanting to use a 
RB532A on each end  with  a pair of  SR5 cards.  I want to use a 
PacificWireless 2 foot 29dbi solid dual polarity dish since tower space is 
limited.  Will this configuration support what I want to do?  Has anyone 
used the dual polarity dishes with Nstreme2 before?  Are there any 
advantages/disadvantages to them?


Any help is greatly appreciated.

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Re: [WISPA] DPI Alert System

2007-01-11 Thread Jon Langeler
I was looking for the same. Someone on the list said they looked at 
Juniper and someone else and settled upon Astaro.


Jon Langeler
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Gino A. Villarini wrote:


We Are looking to implement a Deep Packet Inspection System that would alert
us of malicious traffic...

Any ideas ?

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Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Jon Langeler
Marlon, if that's the type of product your looking for, I'll save you 
the hassle of looking (and you can come back to this post in 5-10 years 
to make your conclusions on my recommendation) because your best best is 
to go with canopy or wait until a 5GHz 802.16e solution comes out(not 
likely soon). If Alvarion would get an actual ENGINEER to debate about 
their RF technology compared to others on-list, that would be the day :-)


Jon Langeler
Michwave Tech.

Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:


Got it.  Thanks.

I guess my beef comes from being a wifi based wisp.  I find it too 
difficult to reject interference with a csma based product.  Anything 
with a wait for clear air, then transmit MAC is GREAT for 
collocation.  But sucks when there are products around that don't 
follow that mechanism.  That's (my personal belief) why Canopy went 
with it's GPS sync.  It doesn't care who's already out there, when 
it's time to transmit it does.  Trango does that to, just without 
sync'ing the AP's.


My REAL world experience so far is that csmak (or csma/ca, or whatever 
collision avoidance scheme you want to use) is GREAT where there 
aren't many other systems within ear shot of the radios.  However, 
when there are other devices in the area, especially those that don't 
have a collision avoidance mechanism, the csma radio will pay a heavy 
price in performance.


Having used both csma and polling products, I'm not putting in any 
wifi type products at 5 gig.  All of our next gen products will be 
polling as long as we can keep things that way.


These days, I'm learning to sacrifice raw performance for reliability 
and uptime.  There's a balance, sure, but getting that last 10 to 20% 
out of a product is less important to me than having a product that 
can survive some of the games that my less scrupulous competitors play.


However, with EITHER technology choice, it's critical to design a 
network that can, and does, physically (antenna choice and ap 
locations) isolates your system as well as you possibly can.  That 
seems to be the type of trick that just can't be taught.  Your network 
designer either gets it or he doesn't.  Heck, I've even done 
consulting gigs where I looked a guy right in the eye and gave them 
several choices for site locations.  Only to have them pick something 
completely different, and sometimes unworkable.


80 to 90%  of people's problems with wireless are self inflicted.  
Either outright or in a lack of forethought manner.


Here's an idea for you Patrick.  Make this product work both ways.  
Give it the option to be either csma or some fancy new version of 
token ring.  Then we could optimize performance for any environment 
that we find ourselves in.


Oh yeah, I remember the big hubbub about GPS in the BreezeACCESS II 
line. Why was it important for collocation then but not now?


Hope you guys all had a great Christmas!
Marlon
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Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Jon Langeler
Let's use 900MHz as an example. We deployed Alvarion 900 on multiple 
sites for over a year and it was a less than enjoyable experience. We 
started by transitioning one site from Alvarion 900 to Canopy 900 and 
things started working much better.
I may use licensed operations as an example only because I've had the 
experience of being on both sides of the fence. Also we buy GPS sync 
units as low as $300 new from a 3rd party vendor, as do many canopy 
operators.
As for the excess bandwidth availability in the UL bands, that's 
definately not the case here...


Jon Langeler
Michwave Tech.

Patrick Leary wrote:


Jon,

When discussing GPS, you continue to offer examples from the licensed
world, which is about as relevant as trying to do an apples to apples
comparisons of mobile licensed cellular service plans with UL fixed
wireless. As I have said before (last week), licensed uses GPS due to
the necessity of having to re-use a small amount of channel over and
over again, cell after cell. That's not the case in the UL world, except
perhaps for Canopy whose bandwidth availability is so low relative to
the channel. 


Jon, you, me, the fence post and everyone else knows why Canopy -- alone
in the entire UL 5GHz world -- requires GPS to scale, it's to keep from
stepping all over itself. It is not even a debatable point. The
recommendation is right there in Canopy white papers -- let me
paraphrase: Deploying Canopy? What to scale? Buy this $1,500 cluster
management module for each cell! (P.S. Don't forget the $125 power
supply.)

Seriously, saying Canopy's GPS (something you have to pay extra for
even) is a value-added feature is like saying my car is special because
it has tires. I have to hand it to Motorola though, they have convinced
you that the one thing no other brand needs in UL, is something you have
the privilege of paying extra for just to get your brand to work well in
even modest scale in the first place.

Patrick Leary
AVP WISP Markets
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243
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I didn't make any 'claims' and as for 1,000 cpe, that's possible with 
wifi(although I'd hate to be one of the end-users). Some of the 
differences is how happy the customers are(reliability seems to play key


here), whether they're business or res., how easy it is to have lower 
cost employees deploy the network(as opposed to me and other qualified


or certified engineers that charge $10K's more/yr), and how tasked the

support and management department is, etc. Things that factor into 
operating a real world wisp. My kind of business is one I can leave for 
a vacation or another venture while having confidence the thing is going


to continue growing while I'm gone.
As for GPS sync. Maybe the cellular guys were wrong the whole time, must

be another Moto consipiracy and maybe mention that to everyone that 
developed 802.16d/e(WIMAX) including your own Alvarion engineers! ;) No 
GPS is not required, but it sure makes a lot of sense and is arguably 
'proper' for a multi cell deployment. I predict this is one of those 
things that the novice wisp will someday either understand, moved on 
beyond wireless last mile, or stuck it out and trained their support 
dept. on how to 'put out fires' for as long as possible. Of course all 
of this is my opinion but I have to go now...hopfully was enough for 
everyone to chew on ;)


Jon Langeler
Michwave Tech.

Brad Larson wrote:

 


Jon, LOL. Our engineers don't watch these threads and they probably
never will and I wouldn't want them to. It's funny that this thread was
started by a very happy Alvarion customer whom just broke the 1,000 cpe
threshold with VL and he's doing the very things that aren't supposed
   


to
 


be possible according to some posting on this topic!! And the funny
   


part
 


of it is, VL displaced one of the products mentioned...performance went
up, truck rolls went down, and he sleeps better at night!! This thread
reminds me of a competitor slinging mud 2 years ago saying we couldn't
build a 3 tower network in 5 square miles to connect 2,400
buildings...Blah blah sync sync... LOL. We not only built that
network but it's a prime example of how if you KNOW WHAT YOURE DOING
and are TRAINED AND CERTIFIED the product works like a charm. 


And if a wisp is building a scaling voip/data network canopy is not
   


such
 


a great solution so the hassle is in the details. Brad



   




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Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-22 Thread Jon Langeler
With VL, you still run into the issue of self interference in a cellular 
deployment(many tower sites in a region). The only products I'm aware of 
that cooperate properly in a cellular deployment are minimally GPS 
capable, and the advanced products that support things like hand-off or 
N:1 deployment go beyond that with 2-way base station to base station 
communication. Technologies such as wimax, 3G, fiber networks, etc. all 
use GPS to to improve efficiency and operation. IMO VL may still be a 
good product to deploy, but just not in a cellular or colocated 
deployment.


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Michwave Tech.

Tom DeReggi wrote:


Charles,

Although your comment is true, and you left out on the fly flexibilty, 
what people want is not always the best value, at the end of the day 
with all things considered.
The value of consistent availability and right out of the box 
deployment is PRICELIST!  This doesn't only save cost of installer 
labor, but also management labor in purchasing and aquisition.


I'll share something from my experience that I find is Ironic as heck. 
I always looked at Alvarion as the high end market gear, but its being 
a stronger residential play.   I recently have done a lot with 
War/StarV3 for high end business, mostly Point to Point links, because 
I can get good speed, flexibilty to reach the neighboring building, 
and great testing tools with things like Iperf  BUILT-IN able to test 
Ethernet connections as well as RF conclusively link by link, as hops 
increase as the backbone mesh grows.  Alvarion is also a great product 
for high end business, which I'm also using in some cases, but I have 
a higher cost to accomplish that, since StarOS has dual radio slots.  
Where Alvarion has now shown undisputable advantage based on its new 
low price, is in its residential application. The difference between 
$185 and $285, is almost nothing compared to my time savings in 
operations.  The ease of opening the box and installing a VL is 
unmatched.  What VL does for me, is that it gives me confidence in 
using subcontractors to isntall. Because I know they'll take the time 
to make sure they get the best signal.  With my other gear, its such a 
pain to get best signal, I was afraid to use contractors and only do 
installs with employees by the hour, so their income did not deter 
them from doing their best job. I gladly pay $100 more for a complete 
ready to go product. The only thing that keeps me from going 100% 
Alvarion for residential is that, I already have 100 APs installed of 
another manufacturer, and I need to focus on revenue not re-build 
out.  Its not just the cost to replace the AP, its the cost to replace 
the consumers without downtime, all at once, when there is little free 
spectrum left to just install a new AP.  To install a new AP, and 
existing AP must be removed first, in many cases.  From a 
performance/reliabilty point of view, there is nothing wrong with the 
gear I previously preferred to use, but from an operations and 
installation point of view, my operations can scale much easier using 
the VL.  Low marging residential is where that matters most.  Its 
important to be able to have consistent install time and meet 
schedules.  The other day I ran out of pigtail. The other day I ran 
out of thin thread stand offs. The other day I ran out of J-Arms. The 
other day I ran out of antennas that came with mounts that support 
2-3/8 pole.  Everyday there is a barrier that delays operations. Sure 
an easy barrier to fix, but still a delay. Instead of focussing on 
sales, I'm focusing on making sure I have enough Gold standoffs in 
stock (5 cent parts).  There is something to be said for what Alvarion 
has offered through the Commnet program, probably one of the strongest 
value propositions offered to date.  Its going to really make the 
competition work.  Just my 2 cents.


The competitions, just better hope that Alvarion doesn't offer an AP 
trade-up program, to help conversion.


Tom DeReggi
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Re: [WISPA] illegal CPE installs

2006-11-27 Thread Jon Langeler
IMO it comes down to if/how they are affecting you and what you want 
them to do about it? You could persuade or force them to move everything 
to another freq. which may/may not end up being in your favor. If your 
trying to get them to give-up and shut the doors...I can't forsee that 
pursuit being successfull or leading to anything 'good'.


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Michwave Tech.

Travis Johnson wrote:


Hi,

Curious to everyone's thoughts about a regional WISP installing 
illegal CPE units? They are using Last Mile Gear 120degree Canopy 120 
degree sectors (5.2GHz) and then putting the Canopy 5.2GHz SM in 
dishes at customer locations. I am talking about thousands of CPE 
installed this way and doing more every day. This company covers 
several western states (Idaho, Utah, Nevada, etc.) and also does Dish 
Network satellite TV installs.


Is this OK? What are everyone's thoughts?

Travis
Microserv


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Re: [WISPA] illegal CPE installs

2006-11-27 Thread Jon Langeler
That's what I'm saying. They would likely end up moving to another 
frequency of which may pose more harm to Travis's current network. Not 
that he should be scared because Trango kicks Canopy's butt right?! :-)


Jon Langeler
Michwave Tech.

Tom DeReggi wrote:

Of course they aren't going to vounteer to shut down. But the FCC will 
inforce the rules, and shut them down, if they are illegally 
operating, and causing harm.
They just have better things to do than go on wild goose chases, so 
you have to deliver proof.  I don;t know about you, but if the FCC 
enforcement burough called me and I was illegal, I'd get legal quick.  
NOt that I'm a tattle tail, or try and be the police. But ifthey are 
effecting the quality of my network because they are illegal, they 
need to be set straight.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


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IMO it comes down to if/how they are affecting you and what you want 
them to do about it? You could persuade or force them to move 
everything to another freq. which may/may not end up being in your 
favor. If your trying to get them to give-up and shut the doors...I 
can't forsee that pursuit being successfull or leading to anything 
'good'.


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Re: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

2006-11-14 Thread Jon Langeler

Now we just need to get Moto to do that! Canopy Lite Advantage AP  :-)

Jon Langeler
Michwave Tech.

Brad Larson wrote:


I'm guessing Patrick went over the 25 user stand alone base station that
will retail for $2,595. This will be an upgradeable version that you can
start a POP with, recover some costs, then upgrade when the time comes
and you get close to the 25 subscriber attachments. Brad
 


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Re: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

2006-11-14 Thread Jon Langeler
Yeah we ended up doing the AP300 program a couple times...our biggest 
time 22AP's arrived in a box! :-) 
Well I should have complained about something else then...maybe we need 
a Prizm 2.0 Lite then! j/k


Jon Langeler
Michwave Tech.

Gino A. Villarini wrote:


Jon, you need to be creative, in light of such need, we bought a bunch of
classic aps on ebay really cheap and the upgraded them to advantage with the
trade program.. ended up paying about $1000 for the APs

Gino A. Villarini
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Now we just need to get Moto to do that! Canopy Lite Advantage AP  :-)

Jon Langeler
Michwave Tech.

Brad Larson wrote:

 


I'm guessing Patrick went over the 25 user stand alone base station that
will retail for $2,595. This will be an upgradeable version that you can
start a POP with, recover some costs, then upgrade when the time comes
and you get close to the 25 subscriber attachments. Brad


   




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Re: [WISPA] Re: Anyone using Exalt radios????

2006-11-14 Thread Jon Langeler
Never heard of them before until now...just talked to a sales rep and 
got unnoficially ~$12k. It looks like software defined radio so they 
probably have the capability to develop firmware to do a lot of the 
things that Orthogon did. He said they don't currently have a spectrum 
management feature or a 'lite' product like orthogon but likely will be 
incorporating something into upcoming software releases. For error 
correction they use variable mod. and FEC, software polarization 
selection, a few other things. Either way a product to keep an eye on...


Jon Langeler
Michwave Tech.

Gino A. Villarini wrote:


Err.. 5.4 experimental licensing ..., I would love to try some exalt radios,
Im only concern is on the channel size for big bandwidth.. 64 mhz is way too
much, on the side note the spectras 30 mhz dual polarity channel is very
flexible cause you can set one end to tx on one slice of spectrum, wheres
the other end can tx on other slice ... really handy in noisy areas ..

How much is the price below mrsp ? 20% ? 


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Re: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

2006-11-14 Thread Jon Langeler
Hey Brad, I've already looked at it briefly and will definately look 
into it a little further, pretty cool. However, based on deploying many 
different systems from wifi to CDMA, I've come to one conclusion. If it 
doesn't have GPS sync, I don't even want to touch it!  :-)   Tell me 
this, will the VL product be uprgadeable to co-exist with any future 
802.16d/e product releases? I wouldn't be suprised if Moto's canopy will 
if they didn't already declare it...


Jon Langeler
Michwave Tech.


Brad Larson wrote:


Gino and Jon, Your loyalties to Canopy are well regarded. I have seen
the technical numbers from some of your peers doing direct head to head
comparisons. With this new program we've now taken the extra step and we
invite you to seriously take a look at our offerings! Brad 
 


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Re: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-25 Thread Jon Langeler
I'm sure most know that was a 'play' and basically secured Moto's 
position to sell WIMAX gear to the 2nd largest 2.5GHz spectrum holder. 
It would have been interesting if Alvarion had been in their place...not 
sure if you guys have that kind of change sitting around.


Jon Langeler
Michwave Tech.

Patrick Leary wrote:


Speaking of Clearwire, folks here are aware that Motorola now owns
NextNet, the hardware supplier to Clearwire (that once was part of
Clearwire, at least in ownership terms), right? The purchase was IN
ADDITION to the $300M investment Motorola made into Clearwire
http://telephonyonline.com/wireless/finance/motorola_clearwire_nextnet_0
70606/

To give you an idea of how much that Moto investment is relative to your
Canopy businessthat is more than Canopy makes for Motorola worldwide
over 2 years. 


Patrick

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Ahhh... there's always a catch... so now Motorola has your customer's 
address and can use that for their own marketing, etc. without you ever 
knowing. They could possibly even sell the list to someone (ClearWire) 
down the road and you would never know.


Travis
Microserv

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Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-25 Thread Jon Langeler
The timing or range is a configurable setting in canopy, you set them at 
20 miles and the AP's as far as 20 miles and under will all be in sync. 
If you have 2 AP past 20 miles but LOS to each other, you can calulate 
to see if the RSSI on the AP's is close to the reciever sensitivity(or 
noise floor) of either AP. If it is above the sensitivity or noise, that 
AP could cause small amount of extra interference(self interference) but 
again this is very rare until you get to the 900MHz freq. In that 
scenario canopy advertises 40 miles LOS(no noise), so that should give 
you an idea of how much self interference may be occuring in 
un-syncronized networks.


Jon Langeler
Michwave Tech.

Travis Johnson wrote:


Hi,

First, the spec sheet on Motorola's website says -86 RSSI.

What happens when you have more than 3 towers outside of the 8 mile 
range of GPS sync? The 2.4ghz signal will definately travel that far, 
causing self-interference, correct?


Travis
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Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-25 Thread Jon Langeler
Hey Patrick, GPS...there's many reasons and it's not a canopy vs 
alvarion debate from my standpoint, more so a scheduled mac(canopy, 
wimax, 3G...) vs unscheduled(wifi, VL, currently Trango). I'd predict 
that as wisp education progresses, they will realize the power of 
scheduled mac and GPS support. By then maybe the rest of the BreezeMAX 
code will have made way to the VL engineers and everyone can be happy :-)


Jon Langeler
Michwave Tech.

Patrick Leary wrote:


Jon,

Why is that the case? You really think GPS on Canopy is some cool
feature? Canopy must have GPS to function. Without it, it kills itself.
It is all to prevent self-inflicted interference (remember, Canopy does
not even have ATPC) and to allow for channel re-use. Other systems, like
VL, do not need it. It provides far more capacity than Canopy, so it
does not need to re-use channels and with basic channel planning you
don't have issues with self-interference.

Patrick Leary
AVP WISP Markets
Alvarion, Inc.
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Re: [WISPA] Alvarion VL Fixes Problems with Backhaul Links

2006-09-22 Thread Jon Langeler

Charles Wu wrote:


snip
What I'm learning is that as my business grows, the abilty to change and 
move (channel options) is becoming less important that the abilty to 
effectively battle it out. The reason is that if every time I hiot noise, I 
move away from the channel, eventually others take those channels., until 
they are all gone, and their is no where else to move to. Sometimes its 
better to claim the space and say, I'm here first, go find another 
channel to play on.  And keep fighting back with better antennas. As the 
antenna grows, you over power the interference, but the important point is, 
you reduce the interference to you and them, by restricting the beamwidth. 
The high power via antenna you go, the more courtious it is to the other 
player to attempt avoidence of signals interfering.  Alvarion gives that 
advantage.

/snip

Tom,

Based on that observation...shouldn't you be looking at Canopy ducking

-Charles
 

That would damage his anti-motorola pride! Plus going with canopy would 
mean being 'in sync' with the competition and things would start 
working...just wouldn't be right! double ducking


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Re: [WISPA] Alvarion VL Fixes Problems with Backhaul Links

2006-09-22 Thread Jon Langeler

Since canopy is the most robust(3db C/I, ARQ, etc.) PTMP product in it's 
class(and happens to be #1 deployed in US), anyone not using canopy will likely 
find themselves conforming to the canopy operators' spectrum usage. As for 
coordination among the canopy operators, that's an easy problem to solve...

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Tom DeReggi wrote:

For the golden answer. GPS only helps you design your own network, and 
I already take care to use best practices for my own network, when its 
comming from myself.
Its all the other people that you have to worry about.   Do you think 
Public safety or department of transportation is using GPS sync for 
all their street pole omnis? Do you think all  the corporate end user 
PTP links being sold to them by clueless network integrators are GPS 
syncing? NOT!


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - From: Brian Rohrbacher 
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Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion VL Fixes Problems with Backhaul Links


Would GPS'd Canopy help?  If not, why?  Do others in the area use 
Canopy?


Brian

Tom DeReggi wrote:

Because, over the years I lost 100% of my high ARPU subs that used 
5830-ext in these areas. Yes that REALLY hurt the financials of my 
business.  The reason, is that its a high noise environment where 
we're attempting to deploy, and its impossible to offer zero packet 
loss solutions with TDD unless ARQ is available, in these 
situations.  It makes it worse with all the WiFi gear going up, 
because you don;t know its there half the time, until its starts 
transmiting. (darn I hate contention based). Yes, of course, Beta 
ARQ firmware exists for the 5830-ext, but it can't be used 
reliably.  One of the big mistakes I made is I tried to use it, and 
learned that it locks up the SU radios every couple of days, when 
under heavy load. I did my testing of it on about 10 links. I 
started on 4 low use links, and it appeared to be stable, with only 
a random lockup every couple of weeks that I thought was something 
else. But after I installed it on the high volume links (other 6), 
they started locking up like crazy. (yes used most recent supposedly 
fixed firmware). Auto-Reboot devices causing two minutes of downtime 
for a reboot, is not adequate for High ARPU large office T1s and 
VOIP services. I'd rather not have the business, than to get my 
reputation tarnished by installing links the subscriber ends up 
cancelling and complaining about. Evey T1 that gets cancelled means 
there is a MTU property owner involved that got the word (they make 
the referals) and a trusted advisor Computer guy (agents that give 
stamp of approval) that gets scared off, when they learn about the 
failure. Deals with partners that took months to build get thrown 
away over night, with a couple reboots from buggy ARQ firmware.


What you can't forget is that in PtMP, you can't encrease the 
antenna side of the AP. Not everything can be solved with the big 
antenna on SU side. Without ARQ one is toast.


Trango gave me so much hope when they developed ARQ for the 5800 
Foxes, which works fantastically. I'd select the Fox over a 5830-ext 
any day because of ARQ. But thats not good enough, I need ARQ and 
EXT connectors. Last year,  I made Trango aware that we needed ARQ 
on 5830-EXT and Link-10s more than anything, and a year later, we 
still don't have it, and its not on their priority list.  That is 
frustrating for my business. Customers don't wait in Urban Tier1 
markets.  When the Link doesn't go up in a few days, or their were a 
couple of noise issues that scare them, they have already placed 
their order with someone else.


What it has forced me to do, is slowly start swapping out my Trango 
APs, to make room (spectrum and antenna lease fees) for radios that 
can deliver packetlossless links.  Even Wifi gear can offer 
packetlossless links.  And its forced me to go back and re-negotiate 
my contracts with property owners to try and not pay per antenna, so 
I can get more antennas of larger size (PtP) for less money on the 
roofs.  Its a BIG waste of time, that I wouldn't have to do, if 
Trango added ARQ reliable ARQ to 5830-ext.


I'm still a Big Trango fan, and still am basing my business around 
its product, because of its value proposition, but I am loosing 
sales and getting more black eyes than I have to, because Trango 
does not have a EXT antenna product line that delivers reliable 
ARQ.  I haven't bought a new Trango 5830 AP in ages, I have to many 
pulls on the shelf waiting, when I need one.  If Trango never 
released ARQ for the FOX, I would have never kown what I was 
missing. But now that I have experienced it, I can't live without it.


The two biggest reasons, for lack of progress in my company is, 1) 
Waiting for technology, and 2) Waiting for finance to come through.  
I can't count how much money I

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion VL Fixes Problems with Backhaul Links

2006-09-22 Thread Jon Langeler
Tom, I have nothing to gain or lose by telling you what we've not only 
extensivley tested but also experienced over 6 years. We started using 
canopy since it began shipping and at least 100 trango SU between 3 
different towers since beta. I just hate to see fellow wisp protest that 
there isn't a good product and struggle when their actually is a pretty 
darn good one...and on top of that has an upgrade path in it's vision, 
it keeps getting better.


ARQ does not affect C/I like FEC does for example. When you say ARQ is 
fixing any resiliance problems that may be true. But you'll also suffer 
from increased latency and less throughput during those retransmissions. 
Not good if you want to support VOIP and keep customers happy. Having a 
low C/I means the system will be stable more often and maintain a lower 
retrans. Trango's ARQ is not even an option in the 5800 model which is 
what you and I probably have a decent percentage of in our Trango 
networks. Having a low C/I requirement affects other things like 
increases the range of a product. I'm laying out facts, you can convince 
yourself of whatever you want...


Jon Langeler
Michwave Tech.

Tom DeReggi wrote:

Nice try, but I've found that comment to be not at all true. I have 
often chosen to avoid canopy user's channels, but because I am a good 
WISP neighbor, not because I had to.  Why fight if you can cooperate.  
On a SPEC sheet Canopy does boast the lowest C/I.  But Trango's 
specified C/I was reported before considering ARQ. And Trango has 
always underspec'd their spec sheets.  C/I is not nearly as relevant 
as SNR resilience anyway. With Arq, we've easilly ran links as low as 
4 db above the average noise floor, reliably.  There is VERY little 
difference between the Trango and Canopy C/I in real world usage.  The 
Trango just adds more polarities as more options to work around it, 
when needed.  One of the reasons we like Trango is its resilience to 
noise, that gives us the abilty to fight it out and stand our ground.  
The Foxes w/ DISH, have excellent ARQ and resilience to Noise, within 
their range and LOS.


When we start to have trouble with Trango, is when we start to push 
the limits of the technology.  Its a LOS technology that we attempt 
NLOS with. My arguement is also not that we can't be the last man 
standing. Its that when the battle happens the customer sees it, and 
the customer does not tolerate it.  IF a Canopy and Trango went to 
war, one might survive a little better than the other, but ultimately 
both customers would feel the interference the majority of the time.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


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Re: [WISPA] Alvarion VL Fixes Problems with Backhaul Links

2006-09-22 Thread Jon Langeler
Hey Brad, VOIP may be the only thing canopy is lagging in. I'm curious 
if they'll improve that in the version 8 software release or at least 
when they move toward WIMAX compatibility. In the mean time I'm more 
concerned with providing reliable pipes...


Jon Langeler
Michwave Tech.

Brad Larson wrote:


Jon, Canopy is not fast enough for many now and voip performance is lacking.
Depending on the circumstance you may be right for many but the times are
changing very quickly. There are more and more projects hitting the streets
where you don't even make the cut if you can't pass the higher data traffic
or support more than 25 voip calls per sector. Brad

-Original Message-
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Since canopy is the most robust(3db C/I, ARQ, etc.) PTMP product in it's
class(and happens to be #1 deployed in US), anyone not using canopy will
likely find themselves conforming to the canopy operators' spectrum usage.
As for coordination among the canopy operators, that's an easy problem to
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Re: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-22 Thread Jon Langeler
My problem with VL is that it doesn't offer a scheduled mac...no 
syncronization capability. Now if this get's incorporated down the line 
I would be interested? We've used it all, you name it, and at this point 
if it doesn't have GPS sync I'm hesitant to even touch it. That is one 
advantage that WIMAX will be bringing...


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Michwave Tech.

Patrick Leary wrote:


I have a very interesting new (this month) pdf about this topic that
compares Canopy Advantage and BreezeACCESS VL in a variety of ways, from
a coverage modeling example using high end propagation software to VoIP
stats using company documents from both companies. 


We think it makes a clear case for BreezeACCESS VL, far beyond the
simple front end cost discussions. 


It is 189k in size and would be great fodder for discussion here. If you
want a copy, e-mail me offlist.

Patrick Leary
AVP WISP Markets
Alvarion, Inc.
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c: 760.580.0080
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Re: [WISPA] tv white spaces update and a question for you guys

2006-09-13 Thread Jon Langeler
Marlon, I'm rather surprised that you would even mention 2.4GHz(wifi I 
assume) as a possible technology to use in these bands. Now that they 
have cellular technologies specifically designed for BWA purposes 
(Canopy and WIMAX are good examples) and given the possibility of a 
fresh start to using this spectrum, using an unarguably inferior 
technology for BWA like wifi just doesn't make sense. You end up with 
the craziness we have right now in the current bands. If testing data 
for equipment operation in that band is needed, you could probably 
obtain this information from a few companies off the top of my head like 
Qualcomm(Flash-OFDM), IPwireless(TD-CDMA) and Airspan(WIMAX and 
proprietary), that currently have experience w/ 700MHz.
IMO if they ever release a 'WISP band'(which I would be surprised), 
they need to have a GPS synchronized transmission cycle as a 
requirement... Here's an idea, make WIMAX as the accepted technology for 
that spectrum. Then all you need is the WISP(s) in the area to 
coordinate transmission cycles to minimize interference potential. That 
leads to a whole other subject, if a 'wisp-band' were opened up, the 
WISP industry could potentially be a whole new ball-game...think 
companies(AOL, Speakeasy, Covad, etc) spending 10s of millions to go 
regional/nation-wide that you would otherwise potentially not have to 
compete against. Now THAT would be interesting :-)


Jon Langeler
Michwave Tech.

Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:


Hi All,

http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-06-1813A1.doc

Looks like we're still TWO years away from being able to use the white 
spaces.  In a month we'll see the first draft rules from the FCC.


It looks like what they want to do is to get some testing data.  I'd 
like to propose to them that we be allowed to build a few test systems 
using 2.4 ghz to tv band converters.  Similar to the 2.4 to 900mhz 
converters.


I think it's important to have the support of WISPA on this, officially.

Thoughts?
Marlon
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Re: [WISPA] Bragging on Mikrotik

2006-09-07 Thread Jon Langeler
But it sounds like that would require MT as end-user CPE? Wouldn't work 
for us...


-Jon

Paul Hendry wrote:


That's one of the reasons that the WDS, EoIP combo works so well as the end
user keeps that same address and it cuts out the repeated DHCP stage at AP
hand over.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jon Langeler
Sent: 07 September 2006 08:57
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bragging on Mikrotik

It's too bad MT doesn't come up with a mobile roaming / routing 
protocol(unless they do and I don't know of it). Where the end user 
retains the same IP address even after it get routed between various 
towers and is wireless medium independent(wifi, wimax, cdma). Does 
anyone here have experience/ideas with that?


Jon Langeler
Michwave Tech.

Butch Evans wrote:

 


On Wed, 6 Sep 2006, Brian Rohrbacher wrote:

   

How long is a ping?  Isn't windows ping like 4 sec?  7 times 4 = 28 
seconds. To me, (if my math is correct) 28 sec is frustrating, not 
seamless.
 

Perhaps seamless is not the proper word.  We did some testing today 
and a cop used his laptop at 6 locations throughout the city to surf 
the web and do license checks.  From his perspective, it was 
seamless.  From the perspective of the network...there were seams. Is 
that a more clear explanation?


   



 




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Re: [WISPA] Dual WAN Routers

2006-06-19 Thread Jon Langeler
Unlesss your doing BGP/OSPF or something fancy, might want to check out 
www.hotbrick.com ~$250. You can configure some nice little things(email 
alert, universal client on LAN, services 'binding', desired 
loadbalancing %, etc.)in a matter of minutes that would take 
considerably longer on a Mikrotik(time=money right?). An this is coming 
from a Mikrotik fan!!! Now if Mikrotik started developing wizards like 
they have for the hotspot setup...


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Bo Hamilton wrote:


Hello fellow list dwellers!
I'm in the market for a dual WAN router.  Could I get some feedback on 
the some that you guys and gals are using.  I have some clients using 
me as a backup for their T1's, so Im just trying to find out wich 
one's are the best to go with.  
 
thanks,
 
Bo Hamilton
NCOWirless.com 
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Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-16 Thread Jon Langeler
Patrick, my string-and-can wifi asterisk ap does more than 10 calls! 
:-)Honestly, 288 G711 calls is probably more towards the high end. 
Whether you would like to realize it or not, canopy has come a ways over 
the years. If you consult with your engineers I'm sure you'll conclude 
that a Canopy AP/SU(14Mbps aggregate) could do a LOT more than 10 calls...


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Michwave Tech.

Patrick Leary wrote:


As a non engineer, this is the first I have ever of this as an issue and I
have never heard it from customers, very large or very small. Is this a real
issue (I have already passed the comments to our PLMs for the product line)
for operators? I do know that with firmware version 4.0 these radios support
QinQ VLAN, which I've not heard other UL radios supporting. And one VL
sector with 4.0 will support 288 concurrent VoIP calls (VoIP only play,
20MHz channel). That compares to 8-10 per Canopy sector and maybe 20 on a
Trango sector. 

Patrick 


-Original Message-
From: Tom DeReggi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 1:33 PM

To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

Only 1512 also limits the use of many VPN technologies used to tunnel to 
partners, if offering wholesale transport services.

For example, IPSEC.  Microtik allowed us to get over the 1512 limit, as long

as we were using WDS. Trango of course allowed the 1600, one of the reasons 
that we chose it 5 years ago. Any plans that Alvarion will make mods to 
allow larger packets?

I'd support Matt's comment, that limited to a 1512 MTU could severally limit

its viable use for service providers, allthough Corporate clients likely 
could care less, as they'd just design around it, since it was for their own


network.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K


 


Our setup requires the following:

1500 bytes for payload
4 bytes for VLANs
4 bytes for LDP
4 bytes for EoMPLS header
18 bytes for Ethernet header

That means we need an MTU of at least 1530. I only specified 1532 since 
that is what Canopy and Orthogon use (Trango supports 1600). Unless 1512 
is your payload size, not your frame size your radios can't be used to 
backhaul an MPLS network.


-Matt

Patrick Leary wrote:

   


Matt,

I just got the reply to your question: the maximum packet size is 1512.

Patrick Leary
AVP Marketing
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243

-Original Message-
From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 
6:33 AM

To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

Does it support MTUs greater than 1500? More specifically, we are looking 
for an MTU of 1532.


-Matt

Patrick Leary wrote:


 


Okay, be forewarned that so this is a shameless plug, but the data from

   


beta

 

testers of our new B100 OFDM point-to-point is worth sharing. In the 
Texas

panhandle one company is getting 62Mbps at 16 miles. In the Big Easy, a

   


link

 

is getting 80Mbps, but it is only a one mile shot. One guy in Nebraska 
told

me Tuesday that the B series of radios (B14, B28, and B100) are about the
most simple he has ever used (his WISP has been operational since 2001).

The BreezeNET B100 was just announced as a commercial product. Like all B
series, the price includes the antennas when the integrated version

   


(antenna

 


built-in) is bought. A full link has a retail of $7,990. Your typical
discounts apply as well. And remember, since this is OFDM the B achieves
some good NLOS performance in terms of building obstructions and sharp
terrain.

We are pretty excited about this radio as a top choice for WISP backhaul.

   


It

 

is targeted as a high capacity, high quality, and really simple to 
install

backhaul for a very moderate price.

Those of you wanting more info, just drop me an e-mail.

Patrick


   

 


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Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-16 Thread Jon Langeler
Brad, I'm not disputing the Alvarion numbers, they look great. Your 
statement below is absolutely true but this could get funny if your 
insisting on backing up that 8-10 number regarding Canopy...


Jon Langeler
Michwave Tech.

Brad Larson wrote:


John, Testing by Alvarion engineers has been done. Saying that a radio has
an aggregate throughput of 14 meg's for voip is not really applicable. Small
packets through the radio can bring most systems to their knees. Brad

-Original Message-
From: Jon Langeler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 3:21 AM

To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

Patrick, my string-and-can wifi asterisk ap does more than 10 calls! 
:-)Honestly, 288 G711 calls is probably more towards the high end. 
Whether you would like to realize it or not, canopy has come a ways over 
the years. If you consult with your engineers I'm sure you'll conclude 
that a Canopy AP/SU(14Mbps aggregate) could do a LOT more than 10 calls...


Jon Langeler
Michwave Tech.

Patrick Leary wrote:

 


As a non engineer, this is the first I have ever of this as an issue and I
have never heard it from customers, very large or very small. Is this a
   


real
 


issue (I have already passed the comments to our PLMs for the product line)
for operators? I do know that with firmware version 4.0 these radios
   


support
 


QinQ VLAN, which I've not heard other UL radios supporting. And one VL
sector with 4.0 will support 288 concurrent VoIP calls (VoIP only play,
20MHz channel). That compares to 8-10 per Canopy sector and maybe 20 on a
Trango sector. 

Patrick 


-Original Message-
From: Tom DeReggi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 1:33 PM

To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

Only 1512 also limits the use of many VPN technologies used to tunnel to 
partners, if offering wholesale transport services.

For example, IPSEC.  Microtik allowed us to get over the 1512 limit, as
   


long
 


as we were using WDS. Trango of course allowed the 1600, one of the reasons
   



 

that we chose it 5 years ago. Any plans that Alvarion will make mods to 
allow larger packets?

I'd support Matt's comment, that limited to a 1512 MTU could severally
   


limit
 

its viable use for service providers, allthough Corporate clients likely 
could care less, as they'd just design around it, since it was for their
   


own
 


network.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K




   


Our setup requires the following:

1500 bytes for payload
4 bytes for VLANs
4 bytes for LDP
4 bytes for EoMPLS header
18 bytes for Ethernet header

That means we need an MTU of at least 1530. I only specified 1532 since 
that is what Canopy and Orthogon use (Trango supports 1600). Unless 1512 
is your payload size, not your frame size your radios can't be used to 
backhaul an MPLS network.


-Matt

Patrick Leary wrote:

  

 


Matt,

I just got the reply to your question: the maximum packet size is 1512.

Patrick Leary
AVP Marketing
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243

-Original Message-
From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006
   



 


6:33 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

Does it support MTUs greater than 1500? More specifically, we are looking
   



 


for an MTU of 1532.

-Matt

Patrick Leary wrote:




   


Okay, be forewarned that so this is a shameless plug, but the data from

  

 


beta



   

testers of our new B100 OFDM point-to-point is worth sharing. In the 
Texas

panhandle one company is getting 62Mbps at 16 miles. In the Big Easy, a

  

 


link



   

is getting 80Mbps, but it is only a one mile shot. One guy in Nebraska 
told

me Tuesday that the B series of radios (B14, B28, and B100) are about
 


the
 


most simple he has ever used (his WISP has been operational since 2001).

The BreezeNET B100 was just announced as a commercial product. Like all
 


B
 


series, the price includes the antennas when the integrated version

  

 


(antenna



   


built-in) is bought. A full link has a retail of $7,990. Your typical
discounts apply as well. And remember, since this is OFDM the B achieves
some good NLOS performance in terms of building obstructions and sharp
terrain.

We are pretty excited about this radio as a top choice for WISP
 


backhaul.
 

  

 


It



   

is targeted as a high capacity, high quality, and really simple to 
install

backhaul for a very moderate price.

Those of you wanting more info, just

Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-16 Thread Jon Langeler
It's theoretically possible to engineer up to 8 equally seperated 
connectorized Canopy backhauls on a tower using alternating 
polarizations and just one channel. Let's just say this is not something 
you'll find in the Canopy manual :-)  


Jon Langeler
Michwave Tech.

Travis Johnson wrote:


Matt,

How do you fit more than 10-12 of those type of dedicated links on a 
single tower?


Travis
Microserv

Matt Liotta wrote:

We rarely use multi-point systems for customers and when we do they 
are either small businesses with very little voice and data needs or 
they are just data customers. All of our customers with any 
significant amount of voice are running on dedicated radios. I would 
say our average customer buys 12 lines of voice and delivering that 
over a Canopy backhaul works just fine.


-Matt

Patrick Leary wrote:

So you agree then that being able to do VoIP is key. I'd like to 
hear more
about your experiences with VoIP. Is your solution actually doing it 
well or
is that your idea of doing VoIP well is 8 only concurrent calls per 
sector
so long as the quality is decent for those few calls? We have talked 
to many
very users of other common 5GHz brands these past few week and we 
have been
consistently told that performance is just dandy until you bump up 
against 8
calls. That is a less than 50 call per cell limit, which does not 
seem like
enough to justify the investments needed on the NOC end for the 
softswitch.

How do you define good VoIP performance Matt?

Patrick Leary
AVP Marketing
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243

-Original Message-
From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 16, 
2006 6:47 AM

To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

Patrick Leary wrote:

 


Matt, to further your comments that you see WISPs providing layer 2
  



transort
 


for carriers.

  



We have multiple CLECs and non-CLECs buying layer 2 transport from 
us now. All are used to buy alternative access from fiber providers 
and therefore fixed wireless was a naturally next step. Further, 
almost all indicated they would have done it sooner, but the fixed 
wireless companies they approached weren't willing to offer them 
layer 2 transport.


 


How about VoIP? How many of you consider VoIP to be an
important part of your service future as a WISP? If so, how do you 
plan to

support since it cannot be done decently with the other popular 5GHz
solutions. That's not my opinion so much as the opinion of many larger
Trango and Motorola WISPs I have been talking to lately.



  



We are doing a significant amount of VoIP now. We have VoIP 
customers running on top of both Trango and Canopy radios. Canopy is 
a significantly better solution for VoIP since we can properly 
prioritize voice with Canopy, while we cannot with Trango. We also 
wholesale VoIP to other operators and help them --if they require 
it-- with getting their network ready to support VoIP.


 

If a key goal of WISPs is growing ARPU, what are WISPs plans for 
doing that

with whatever your current technology permits?



  



I believe VoIP is the number one way to grow ARPU and the fact that 
we bundle VoIP is why I believe we have one of the highest ARPUs in 
the industry.


-Matt

 





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Re: [WISPA] 700 mhz Public Safety State License

2006-05-23 Thread Jon Langeler
If your looking for equipment manufacturers, you'll be looking at 
companies like IPwireless, Flarion, etc... Typically $50-100K per base 
station/sector deployment...


Jon Langeler
Michwave Tech.

Gino A. Villarini wrote:


Gino A. Villarini Hello,

The local government holds a license for 700 mhz publi c safety with 2 
12 mhz channels, anyone have any pointers on how to develop a network 
on such frequencies? Anyone knows of  federal funds available for such 
endeavor ? Homeland Security funding ?



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Re: [WISPA] Spectrum Analyzer

2006-05-09 Thread Jon Langeler

Like $6k and $12K off the top of my head...

-Jon

Paul Hendry wrote:


Interesting. How much do these go for?


Paul Hendry
Skyline Networks

http://www.skyline-networks.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jon Langeler
Sent: 09 May 2006 19:45
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Spectrum Analyzer

Those still look pretty old-school. Have you used the handhelds from 
RS, the FSH 3GHz and 6GHz series or the handheld Anritsu(s). Same cost 
or less to rent/buy and no upconverters required...


Jon Langeler
Michwave Tech.

Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

 


Sorry about that.  I got the brand wrong.  It's Avcom.
http://www.electro-comm.com/Downloads/ecommwireless.pdf
Page 31.

You probably want the one with ethernet.  Then you can set one up and 
remotely access it via laptop.  (Useful for things like Scriv is 
fighting with right now)


You'll need the frequency converters for your 5.8 gig band checks.

These are really really cool units.  Wish I had one of them instead of 
my Advantest big kid one.


laters,
Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - From: rabbtux rabbtux [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Spectrum Analyzer


Marlon,

Could you post a URL?  what price range is the equipment?
Thanks - marshall

On 5/8/06, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   


EC carries a nice little unit from Anritsu (sp?).  Portable, battery
operated, easy to use.  You'll need a converter to get the 2.4 gig 
version

to work for 5.8 gig but that's not a big deal.

Perfect for a wisp.

laters,
Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message -
From: Jory Privett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 12:00 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Spectrum Analyzer


 

Can someone recommend a fairly simple spectrum analyzer  that will 
   


do  2.4
 

and 5.8. I need something that is portable and not to complicated 
   


to  use.
 


Jory Privett
WCCS


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Re: [WISPA] Spectrum Analyzer

2006-05-09 Thread Jon Langeler
My apologies. I just looked at the rental cost which was more than we 
pay for the RS units...


-Jon

Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:


Same cost?  You did notice that the Avcom unit is $3k?

Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - From: Jon Langeler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Spectrum Analyzer



Like $6k and $12K off the top of my head...

-Jon

Paul Hendry wrote:


Interesting. How much do these go for?


Paul Hendry
Skyline Networks

http://www.skyline-networks.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jon Langeler
Sent: 09 May 2006 19:45
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Spectrum Analyzer

Those still look pretty old-school. Have you used the handhelds from 
RS, the FSH 3GHz and 6GHz series or the handheld Anritsu(s). Same 
cost or less to rent/buy and no upconverters required...


Jon Langeler
Michwave Tech.

Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:



Sorry about that.  I got the brand wrong.  It's Avcom.
http://www.electro-comm.com/Downloads/ecommwireless.pdf
Page 31.

You probably want the one with ethernet.  Then you can set one up 
and remotely access it via laptop.  (Useful for things like Scriv 
is fighting with right now)


You'll need the frequency converters for your 5.8 gig band checks.

These are really really cool units.  Wish I had one of them instead 
of my Advantest big kid one.


laters,
Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own 
wisp!

64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - From: rabbtux rabbtux 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Spectrum Analyzer


Marlon,

Could you post a URL?  what price range is the equipment?
Thanks - marshall

On 5/8/06, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:




EC carries a nice little unit from Anritsu (sp?).  Portable, battery
operated, easy to use.  You'll need a converter to get the 2.4 gig 
version

to work for 5.8 gig but that's not a big deal.

Perfect for a wisp.

laters,
Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own 
wisp!

64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message -
From: Jory Privett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 12:00 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Spectrum Analyzer




Can someone recommend a fairly simple spectrum analyzer  that will


do  2.4


and 5.8. I need something that is portable and not to complicated


to  use.


Jory Privett
WCCS


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[WISPA] Mikrotik Radius/PPPoE Radius

2006-04-28 Thread Jon Langeler
We're setting up MT PPPoE w/ Radius and while we're at it maybe hotspot 
auth. Recommended packaged solutions? Anyone tried Radius Manager 2.0.2 
before? Anyone want to provide some consulting on this that's done it 
before? :-)


Thanks
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Michwave Tech.
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Re: [WISPA] Auction 66

2006-04-28 Thread Jon Langeler
I'm going to be devil's advocate and take that further. There's a soon 
coming day when the 700MHz and EBS/RBS/WCS(2.3/2.5GHz) folks finally 
figure out what equipment and standard they want to go with(3G/UMTS or 
mobile WIMAX), then they're going nationwide, and fast. The underfunded 
WISPs will be in for a tough one...


-Jon
Michwave Tech.

Dylan Oliver wrote:

I disagree. Any and every WISP should be interested in offering mobile 
voice, data, and video as a complement to its fixed services. 
Subscribers *will* want it.


Best,
--
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Primaverity, LLC 



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