RE: [WISPA] FCC Open Commission Meeting Moved
Did anyone see a copy of what was submitted, would be great to see that. jp Jon Price Managing Dir, ISPCON CEO, The Golden Group, Inc. P: 720.221.7225 F: 720.221.7477 www.inboxevent.com www.ispcon.com Inside ISPCON Blog: http://ispcon.blogs.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 12:52 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] FCC Open Commission Meeting Moved This just in from Michael Anderson. Why don't you contact him and see if you can get clearance to attend. Hi all Today at noon, I was required to submit my formal Commission briefing that was to be held tomorrow morning in Washington. The Commission had originally, back on Sep 12th asked me to provide an industry wide status report. That report was to be forwarded to the commission no later than noon, Washington time today. I was able to produce a document that I believe was a humble attempt to bring the FCC up to date. I also believe that the report has it's shortcomings. However, those shortings can and will be addressed during future updates. In essence, I was pressed for time on this one and did not nor could not include everything the industry is doing. I will continue to strive for more in-depth reporting. I found out late last night that the actual Commission meeting is being postponed and relocated to Atlanta, GA and although my report will be included in the overall Commission meeting, I will not be providing a presentation in person. Now onto future reporting - I still am in need of your continued status reporting from the field. Please continue to submit photos, emails and also the use of the form submission we have established at: http://www.part-15.org/emergencyrelief/report.asp Regards and keep up the great work everyone is doing. You are making a direct and significant difference. Michael Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 1:46 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Open Commission Meeting Moved Wow, right in my backyard. Anyone from WISPA attending? -Matt Rick Harnish wrote: *_SCHEDULE AND VENUE CHANGE: _* *_FCC TO HOLD OPEN COMMISSION MEETING_* *_IN ATLANTA, GEORGIA at 11:00 am_* *Please note that the time and venue for the Federal Communications Commission's September Open Meeting has changed. * As described in the Commission's Thursday, September 8^th Notice, on Thursday, September 15^th , the Commission will hold an open meeting. At this meeting, it will hear presentations from Commission staff and various industry representatives concerning their role in Hurricane Katrina recovery efforts. For the convenience of those testifying, the Federal Communications Commission will hold its meeting in Atlanta, Georgia at BellSouth Telecommunications Inc.'s Emergency Control Center located at the following address: BellSouth Midtown I Building 4^th Floor 754 Peachtree Street Atlanta, Georgia 30309 The meeting is scheduled to commence at 11:00 am. Seating is limited and will be on a first come, first serve basis. The prompt and orderly conduct of Commission business permits less than 7-days notice be given. *-FCC-* **/Rick Harnish/** /President/ /OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc./// /260-827-2482 Office/ /260-307-4000 Cell/ /260-918-4340 VoIP/// /www.oibw.net http://www.oibw.net// **/[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/** **/ /***/ http://www.oibw.net//* **//** http://www.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Funding help - The Challenge
In addition to what's below, fwiw: 1) I'd like to challenge and/or incent any supplier to send gear to Mac in return for anything I can provide in equal value of exposure or additional support during the show... space, ads, whatever makes sense to get that pallet of equipment off the dock on the road to NOLA. I've been talking to a few of the more conspicuously absent names for that donation list about this already, but haven't had any firm takers so far. If you are on the fence about doing something, lmk and we'll find a way to make it worthwhile to ship out whatever you have that Mac needs and can get into the field ASAP. 2) If anyone sends Mac / Churchofthe.Net / WISPA a donation of $350 or more, I'll comp you a pass for our full conference if you haven't signed up yet. After you get your receipt from Mac, just send me an email and we'll sort it out. 3) If you don't have the $350 to kick in, but are on the fence about pitching in from afar or just going there to help for even a few solid hours, same difference. Send me an email afterwards and we'll work it out, but either way just do something NOW. btw, a few weeks back someone here was talking about having a WISPA meeting in a field with tents and jetskis. Well, now's your chance, gang.:) cheers, Jon Jon Price Managing Dir, ISPCON CEO, The Golden Group, Inc. P: 720.221.7225 F: 720.221.7477 www.inboxevent.com www.ispcon.com Inside ISPCON Blog: http://ispcon.blogs.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 11:05 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Funding help - The Challenge I am coming down your way Mac. Expect me Thursday late or more likely Friday. I will either come with Rick Harnish or load a trailer of my own and bring it your way. Either way I am coming to help any way I can for a few days. For those of you who want to help, cash is the word of the day. Get Mac some money. He won't tell you this but I know he has spent several thousand of his own money running this deal. It is time for all of you to help. Go to http://crisis.wispa.org/ and you can send through the Churchofthe.Net 501c3 there if you need the tax write-off or is only way your company can help. Send it directly to Mac's Paypal if the tax credit is not required. His email for paypal is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jon Price of ISPCON has sent us $2000 to help. That is a challenge I think. If any of the rest of you have done well in this business and have it to spare then please send Mac's group some cash. Last I heard he needs lots of Cat 5 also. So let's get it together guys. Mac and many others down south are working to help these folks. Let's help them. They need food and water too. We need to get them money to operate and to live. Until Uncle Sam steps in (maybe never) then we will have to do whatever we can to help with what we can put together ourselves. Here is the challenge to all. I want Mac to have $10K to work with before Monday morning. Get to work! Get him some cash! Thanks guys, Scriv Mac Dearman wrote: Rick, I will shoot you the info to get you base camp, but our sleeping arrangements are less than desireable and we have men sleeping everywhere so come prepared for whatever. I also am going to have another changing out of crew and may be in need of some more volunteers by the weekend. If any of you are interested in DONATING YOUR TIME GAS please shoot me an email off list stating your abilities using the KISS method ( keep it simple stupid) I can not have anyone and everyone just roll into camp. If you do not have authorization from me - - do not come. I have experienced this and allowed a couple guys into camp because they came from so far.I am trying to keep us at a maneagble and efficeient level and not overwhelm the Camel we are riding. We are now EOC certified and have badges to wear around our necks for identification. We have a FULL PASS permit given to us by EOC Mississippi. We had a group of men roll back into camp this morning that was at the farm for a week and then they went home to take care of some business and are back!!! Thanks, Mac Rick Harnish wrote: Mac, I plan on pulling out of Indiana, tomorrow afternoon. Tell me what else I can bring. I have over 100 computer monitors and 30 computers, oh and 10 pallets of pretzels :) Will probably run through Mount Vernon, IL and try to drag Scriv along. I will need directions to where I need to go. I will be heading back on Monday but I'm yours for the weekend. Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 11:08 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Funding
RE: [WISPA] Funding help - The Challenge
Hey, it's only generous if someone sends Mac some funds or gear. I figure if we are going to keep losing $ on these conferences, it may as well be for a good cause.;) jp Jon Price Managing Dir, ISPCON CEO, The Golden Group, Inc. P: 720.221.7225 F: 720.221.7477 www.inboxevent.com www.ispcon.com Inside ISPCON Blog: http://ispcon.blogs.com -Original Message- From: Tom DeReggi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 2:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Funding help - The Challenge Jon, Wow! That is a very generous contribution / offer. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Jon Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 3:40 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Funding help - The Challenge In addition to what's below, fwiw: 1) I'd like to challenge and/or incent any supplier to send gear to Mac in return for anything I can provide in equal value of exposure or additional support during the show... space, ads, whatever makes sense to get that pallet of equipment off the dock on the road to NOLA. I've been talking to a few of the more conspicuously absent names for that donation list about this already, but haven't had any firm takers so far. If you are on the fence about doing something, lmk and we'll find a way to make it worthwhile to ship out whatever you have that Mac needs and can get into the field ASAP. 2) If anyone sends Mac / Churchofthe.Net / WISPA a donation of $350 or more, I'll comp you a pass for our full conference if you haven't signed up yet. After you get your receipt from Mac, just send me an email and we'll sort it out. 3) If you don't have the $350 to kick in, but are on the fence about pitching in from afar or just going there to help for even a few solid hours, same difference. Send me an email afterwards and we'll work it out, but either way just do something NOW. btw, a few weeks back someone here was talking about having a WISPA meeting in a field with tents and jetskis. Well, now's your chance, gang.:) cheers, Jon Jon Price Managing Dir, ISPCON CEO, The Golden Group, Inc. P: 720.221.7225 F: 720.221.7477 www.inboxevent.com www.ispcon.com Inside ISPCON Blog: http://ispcon.blogs.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 11:05 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Funding help - The Challenge I am coming down your way Mac. Expect me Thursday late or more likely Friday. I will either come with Rick Harnish or load a trailer of my own and bring it your way. Either way I am coming to help any way I can for a few days. For those of you who want to help, cash is the word of the day. Get Mac some money. He won't tell you this but I know he has spent several thousand of his own money running this deal. It is time for all of you to help. Go to http://crisis.wispa.org/ and you can send through the Churchofthe.Net 501c3 there if you need the tax write-off or is only way your company can help. Send it directly to Mac's Paypal if the tax credit is not required. His email for paypal is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jon Price of ISPCON has sent us $2000 to help. That is a challenge I think. If any of the rest of you have done well in this business and have it to spare then please send Mac's group some cash. Last I heard he needs lots of Cat 5 also. So let's get it together guys. Mac and many others down south are working to help these folks. Let's help them. They need food and water too. We need to get them money to operate and to live. Until Uncle Sam steps in (maybe never) then we will have to do whatever we can to help with what we can put together ourselves. Here is the challenge to all. I want Mac to have $10K to work with before Monday morning. Get to work! Get him some cash! Thanks guys, Scriv Mac Dearman wrote: Rick, I will shoot you the info to get you base camp, but our sleeping arrangements are less than desireable and we have men sleeping everywhere so come prepared for whatever. I also am going to have another changing out of crew and may be in need of some more volunteers by the weekend. If any of you are interested in DONATING YOUR TIME GAS please shoot me an email off list stating your abilities using the KISS method ( keep it simple stupid) I can not have anyone and everyone just roll into camp. If you do not have authorization from me - - do not come. I have experienced this and allowed a couple guys into camp because they came from so far.I am trying to keep us at a maneagble and efficeient level and not overwhelm the Camel we are riding. We are now EOC certified and have badges to wear around our necks for identification. We have a FULL PASS permit given to us by EOC
RE: [WISPA] Kelly WISP Incident
VERY good point at the end there Mark. Gotta document and photograph this stuff in order to help make the world aware of what's happening. Powerful examples for the industry as a whole. jp Jon Price Managing Dir, ISPCON CEO, The Golden Group, Inc. P: 720.221.7225 F: 720.221.7477 www.inboxevent.com www.ispcon.com Inside ISPCON Blog: http://ispcon.blogs.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Koskenmaki Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 9:35 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Kelly WISP Incident This list is public. It's going to be out and around. But Ill repeat my posting in response... There doesn't seem to be all that much overlap between the lists... = We're all irked that we got jerked around a bit by the desk-sitters. However, this is not all that surprising. I wrote early on that both FEMA and ARC are totally top-down organizations, and each is dedicated to using thier list of contacts in the rolodex, so to speak. They see SBC they think they're big, they can do it. The media has the same problem. The public has the same perception. Once all this dies down, and I think it'll be 6 mo or more, there has to be a process where t he FCC introduces us to the top guys at FEMA, and like the HAM operators, we get on the list of people to call. The HAM guys are well organized, they have disaster drills to work outside the box, they have a lot of flexible technology. They work in small teams, have a relatively small organization, and are konwn for nimble movements and the ability to go anywhere for what they do. Of course, some of us WISP's do the same kind of flexible, outside the box stuff daily. This business of replacing infrastructure to some remote place with no power or anything... that's not even a challenge to me. I can do it as a matter of course - as can a whole pile of WISP's. A few are technology locked, and are the same one hammer for all nails that SBC and Time Warner have, but are very much the exception to this rule. Especially us RURAL wisp's who are not even challenged by the thought of not having power, no support infrastructure, etc, can and should be key players. We should be called and on the road meeting t he HAM guys who show up to help us deploy - they would be the perfect partner. I wrote once before that if all we did here was create the first large-scale disaster drill for WISP's, and are never officially tasked, it has been worth it. I still maintain that view. However, when the beaurocracy has become so calcified as it now appears to be, this could be much harder to accomplish, than any other task we could be asked to do. Frankly, lighting up the gulf coast and getting every critical need communication is child's play, compared to getting the powers that be to recognize that ability and put it to work. ONE of the things we MUST do is document, photograph, and then produce a story of our own, how we did on the ground local-level stuff and how it can be life-saving in times of urgent need.This is how and WHAT the HAM community did. Well, that's just off the top of my head... But maybe it's worthy of consideration. Mark North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! - - Original Message - From: Steve Stroh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 7:57 AM Subject: [WISPA] Kelly WISP Incident (While I haven't followed the WISPA list very closely lately, I saw some postings there about Kelly that led me to believe that I should also post this on the WISPA General list. It was originally posted to the emergency-relief list.) On Saturday, September 7, 2005, the team of WISPs pre-positioned at the former Kelly Air Force Base in San Antonio, Texas to provide Internet access for the large Hurricane Katrina relief camp there discovered that SBC has been onsite at Kelly for approximately one week installing communications infrastructure. SBC personnel stated that SBC would be able to provide all telephone and Internet access that the relief camp will need. To understand this turn of events, a brief sequence of events is in order. 1) In the wake of Hurricane Katrina, the FCC requested various entities nominally under its jurisdiction to keep it informed of capabilities and plans to restore communications in the affected area. 2) PART-15.ORG responded to the FCC request, explaining that WISPs in the affected area were asking for donated systems and labor to provide Internet access to relief shelters and key agencies such as law enforcement agencies whose facilities were no longer usable or operational. 3) Following up on PART-15.ORG's input
RE: [WISPA] VOIP
Marlon, please don't take anything I said personally bud - it wasn't directed at you or anyone specifically. I've always said that you are a great guy, you give a ton of great, practical, free advice. That's nothing short of inspiring. We all have to share and give more back to your industry than what we take in order to help it grow along with our business. I get frustrated when I read things that run counter to this thinking though and that prozac 'n jack cocktail just isn't enough.;-) So the jab was at the concept of not going to shows because someone knows everything, there's nothing left to learn and ironically the money is so tight that a free hall pass is the only thing that's mildly justifiable. If anything, that's the best reason to go to any show, join a newsgroup or association: help everyone else around you learn (competitor or not). The world and the industry are a better place even if our competitors are more intelligent, professional and successful. The worst competitors are ignorant spectrum hogs and fools who come to town, sign everyone up by undercutting you and then flame out after delivering poor, unreliable services. That's bad for them, you, me and most importantly the WISP industry and our image as a whole. Same can be said for Associations and the zillions of trade shows in our industry, so it's important for these things to exist and keep driving to raise the bar. We can't make everyone smart, ethical and professional, but we can have a positive impact and strive to create/raise the standards for everyone. I can (all too painfully well) understand the financial strains in the early phase of any business. We're a 4 person company that operates entirely on cash flow. I go through the same justification process for events, travel or any other expense. Every business needs to consider the long and short term interests and balance those things. I'm not advocating that every spare dime should be spent attending trade shows or joining every association out there either. I said this to John when I sent the suggestions for WISPA's event/media partnership policy: small doesn't have to equal unprofitable - that's the distinction we all need to make. Ideally we'd all figure out how to run efficient, pocket sized, easy-to-manage businesses that are insanely profitable and valuable regardless of their size. So let's get over the fact that we're small and figure out how to help each other become the profitable and professional businesses (large or small) that we all can and should be. Otherwise we should go fire up that tractor or dusty resume again. There's no reason why everyone has to remain permanently locked in fledgling mode. There are ways to break that cycle that we've got to help each other find or we'll need much more than this lightweight prozac stuff. I want to see us all break out of that cycle sooner than later and identify the paths that others can take to flourish as an industry. This is, as Michael Gerber says working ON your business rather than IN it. Largely, we've got an industry of technicians-turned-entrepreneur that are overwhelmed with working IN our businesses. That's not a business, it's a job and if you are like me, the boss is a total PITA. This isn't about making my shows a fit for WISPA or promoting my conference over someone else's. They all help in one way or another and have their place for each person's specific needs. VoIP could be a total waste of time for your market, but huge for people in other market conditions - doesn't make it good or bad, but we've got to help each other make those major distinctions rather than simultaneously lumbering through the process in our own vacuums. Newsgroups, Associations, Trade Shows, Magazines, Radio Shows, whatever...they are all part of getting there, no matter which ones you are involved with. Imho, the key (which was the rambling point I was trying to make in the last message) is to be part of the industry and avoid lowballing, freeloading and using everyone around you - it's bad for the industry and our image. To contribute and support these things that are part of your industry and extract value only AFTER you've contributed an equal or greater amount is the idea. That is the only way we can all succeed. If anything Marlon, you are a perfect example of someone who does just that - so if you haven't heard it lately, THANK YOU! So who here is going step up and help Marlon master his customer acquisition costs? Anyone? jp -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 11:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] VOIP Hiya Jon, Glad to see you are finally off of that Prozac stuff! grin I'll step (not too far) out on a limb and assume you are talking about *this* know it all as one of those you are obviously tired of. Let me see if I can address your points one at a
