[WISPA] Farewell Everyone

2007-03-28 Thread KyWiFi LLC
Hello Everyone,

Well the time has come, I am no longer a WISP owner
as my partner and I have sold our company to Rick
Gunderson of Compulinx Inc. (d.b.a. Palm Beach
Broadband). Rick is a very fine fellow and after spending
a large amount of time with him, someone we feel
comfortable with acquiring our WISP. We have gone to
great lengths to find the perfect fit and we feel we have
found it with Rick Gunderson of Compulinx Inc. He has
a great deal to offer the WISP community and is very
passionate about the wireless industry.

So where do I go from here you might ask? Well, let
me see... I own a portfolio of online properties, a thriving
real estate rental business and I recently diversified into
the music industry as co-owner of Gateway Music
Festival LLC (http://www.gatewaymusicfestival.com)

If you would like to stay in touch with me (I am unsubscribing
from this list tonight), you may do so by subscribing to my
personal newsletter via the opt-in form located at:
http://www.shannondenniston.com

I am anxious to continue development of http://www.ispbuddy.com
which will offer numerous amenities, not found elsewhere, to
ISP's of all sizes. If you are spending more than an hour or two
per day managing your ISP then you need an ISP Buddy! You
can go to http://www.ispbuddy.com to subscribe to the launch
notification list if automating your ISP is of interest to you.

Take care everyone, I have learned a lot over the past few
years as an ISP and I attribute a large amount of my ISP
success to the knowledge I learned from this list and the
many friendships I have made along the way. This is one of
the greatest WISP lists in the world and I am grateful for finding
it so early on in my ISP venture. I wish you all success!


Sincerely,
Shannon D. Denniston, President
Denniston Enterprises, Inc.
http://www.DennistonInc.com
859.498.4729
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Re: [WISPA] Moisture Ingress

2007-03-19 Thread KyWiFi LLC
Make it easy on yourself and go with their 1 width, we go through it
by the cases, the more you buy from them, the deeper their discounts.

Shannon D. Denniston
http://www.ispbuddy.com
WISP Management System


- Original Message - 
From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Moisture Ingress


There are a lot of places that sell it... I buy it from Electrocomm in 
the large rolls. I think it's 1/2 wide by 12ft long for $7 each... we 
use about 6 inches per seal... so that's 24 seals for roughly $.30 each.

Here is the actual website: http://www.coaxseal.com

They have a list of distributors, etc. on that page.

Travis
Microserv

Mario Pommier wrote:
 Where do you get it?

 Mario

 Blair Davis wrote:
 Same here.  Coax Seal is GREAT!!!



 Travis Johnson wrote:
 We started using Coax-Seal about two years ago and have never had a 
 problem since. It's moldable so you wrap the connector and then form 
 it around the connections. Quick, easy and cheap. Even on 
 mountaintops at 9000ft elevation with 60mph winds and freezing 
 rain/ice we have never had a problem.

 Travis
 Microserv

 John Scrivner wrote:
 I would like a bit of feedback from those of you who have been 
 installing outdoor antennas for a while. I have a problem that I 
 would like to see fixed. It seems that after every long rain we see 
 problems with the occasional connection outside at the antenna 
 getting water into it. We use the Scotch seal mastic tape to seal 
 the connections. The guys do not like having to climb and they work 
 hard to try to make sure we do not get these problems and yet they 
 come back. I would like to hear what you veterans out there are 
 doing to make sure the water stays out.
 Thanks,
 Scriv





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[WISPA] Windows Vista Networking Tutorial

2007-02-26 Thread KyWiFi LLC
Anyone have one of these or mind to share with me how
someone goes about configuring a Windows Vista PC
to use a static IP and specified DNS servers? I figured it
out after a few minutes while at a customer's residence the
other day but now we have a different customer who is
demanding we walk them through it over the phone. I can
walk them through it in Windows XP with my eyes shut but
the guys at Microsoft just had to change things up with their
release of Vista... errr!!


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Your Hometown Broadband Provider
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Re: [WISPA] Routers

2007-02-13 Thread KyWiFi LLC
Belkin has a lifetime warranty. I am sure there are others,
if not, there should be.


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- Original Message - 
From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers


Who has a lifetime warranty?


KyWiFi LLC wrote:

Yes, I'm serious. Lots of companies offer a lifetime warranty.
If they have a good product, they should stand behind it. If
their product is junk, then...


Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
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http://www.KyWiFi.com
Call Us Today: 859.274.4033
  


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Re: [WISPA] Routers

2007-02-07 Thread KyWiFi LLC
Yes, I'm serious. Lots of companies offer a lifetime warranty.
If they have a good product, they should stand behind it. If
their product is junk, then...


Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
Your Hometown Broadband Provider
http://www.KyWiFi.com
Call Us Today: 859.274.4033
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- Original Message - 
From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 11:19 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers


Hi,

Are you serious? You honestly expect a company to honor a warranty for a 
lifetime, especially on a $30 item? How do you expect them to stay in 
business?

Travis
Microserv

KyWiFi LLC wrote:
 We use the Belkin F5D7230-4 wireless router exclusively and I'm
 proud to report that both us and our subscribers have been VERY
 pleased with them. We do, however, see a failure rate with them of
 around 8% - 10% BUT, they have been good about replacing them
 in a timely manner and have always honored their lifetime warranty.
 We buy them for $30 - $40 and retail them for $100. Here's a link:
 http://www.buy.com/prod/Belkin_F5D7230_4_Wireless_G_Router/q/loc/101/201978542.html

 I'm on a mission right now to align our company with manufacturers,
 vendors, etc. who offer and honor a lifetime warranty. If someone is
 only willing to stand behind their product for a year or two, you should
 question that, I know I do.


 Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
 KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
 Your Hometown Broadband Provider
 http://www.KyWiFi.com
 Call Us Today: 859.274.4033
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 - Original Message - 
 From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 6:58 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers


 Nothing. We have to deal with low quality in a commodity world.

 However another way to approach it might be, who has the best RMA policy. 
 Linksys's RMA policy is non-existent, and a provider needs to be prepared to 
 eat any failures. That comment is based on, the many hoops linksys makes you 
 go through before allowing a return, which cost way more to do than the cost 
 to buy a new router.  This is the BIG reason, that we have converted 50% of 
 all new installs to NON-Linksys routers.  Linksys makes my favorite, Home 
 Router OS, but I can;t stomach giving all my money to those that don't honor 
 their warrantees.  Belkin on the other hand has been fabulaous.  No 
 questions asked, jsut send it back, and get a new one in a few days.  Belkin 
 also has a nice Default portal page you can see before logining in to see 
 private info.  Belkin comes with a bundled Content Control trial. Belkon can 
 opperate as an AP (Bridge) or Nat Router, and I think also WDS.  The only 
 reason we don't use Belkin for all our installs is that Linksys is what our 
 local distributor carries, and because Belkin had some PPPOE bugs, which 
 prevented it from Auto-reconnecting after a disconnect, unless you reboot 
 it. So we still use Linksys for PPPOE clients.  However that PPOE bug was 
 identified over a year ago, maybe its been fixed by now?

 The Belkin has a higher price tag unfortuneately, but it is a N router, 
 and I prefer to support the vendors that honor their warrantees.

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message - 
 From: Ross Cornett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 5:57 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] Routers


 Hey guys, I hope some of you can enlighten me on what is the best line of 
 router out there for home and small business.  We have used linksys and 
 netgear and their broadband routers have not held up very well.   Anyone 
 have any ideas as to what they are using and what works best?  I am tired of 
 replacing these things and explaining to the customer their lack of quality. 
 Your feedback is very welcome.


 Ross Cornett
 VP
 217 342 6201 ex 7
 HofNet Communications, Inc.
 www.HofNet-Communications.com

 HofNet-Communications.com
   
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Re: [WISPA] Welcome Kelly Shaw of Pure Internet!

2007-01-30 Thread KyWiFi LLC
Kelly, please drop me an e-mail sometime. I would enjoy
picking your brain a little bit about the Tobacco Settlement
funds... I have the same exact intentions with our WISP
but government does not want to talk to us wireless guys
so it seems. Just curious if you've found a way inside. ;-)


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- Original Message - 
From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 11:28 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Welcome Kelly Shaw of Pure Internet!


I would like to take this opportunity to introduce all of you to Kelly 
Shaw of Pure Internet in Southern Virginia. Kelly is a new Principle 
Member of WISPA. There has been much activity in new memberships in 
WISPA lately and I want to thank all of you including Kelly. Here is a 
little background on Kelly Shaw and Pure Internet:

I've been in the ISP business since 1995 when I started a small local ISP
called Halifax.Com, which is now owned by a regional CLEC called nTelos.
After working for them for awhile, I decided that I liked working for myself
more (which I am still trying to figure out what ever gave me that idea  :-) .

In 2002, I left nTelos to start Pure Internet. Almost immediately, we
started offering Wireless Service with the Nokia Rooftop product.  Aside
from the high costs ($700+) of the CPE, these were great little radios. In
fact, I still have two Nokia Rooftop POPs up and operational with very
little maintenance required.

We now serve three rural counties in Southern Virginia with wireless
service. We use Trango, WaveRider and even Tranzeo products. My wireless
backhaul to various POPs exceeds 100+ miles in total.  I have several POPs
that are 20+ miles from each other being connected via wireless.  In the
gently rolling hills of Virginia, this is no easy task when only using water
towers.

Our state was part of the Tobacco Settlement with the tobacco companies. As
such, our state receives millions of dollars per year from the tobacco
companies.   My state, Virginia, has chosen to use part of this money to
build a regional (23 Counties) fiber-optic network that terminates in
mostly-empty Industrial Parks with the promise of Economic Development.  In
2002, when we first started Pure  Internet, I spoke in front of the Tobacco
Commission hoping to persuade them to spend less money on fiber and more
money on a hybrid approach of fiber, wireless and other technologies.

I am still speaking in front of the Commission about the problems of Last
Mile and how expensive tower space on the big boy's towers can be.  

I am also the President of the local Technology Council. I am trying to push
our area as being a resource for technology and a great place to locate a
technology business.


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Re: [WISPA] Service Offerings, By Speed or All You Can Eat? Was: Advanced Bandwidth Management

2007-01-25 Thread KyWiFi LLC
Here are the plans I am working to make available in
2007 for our own subscribers:

  5 Mbps / 1 Mbps for $59.99
10 Mbps / 2 Mbps for $69.99
15 Mbps / 3 Mbps for $79.99
20 Mbps / 4 Mbps for $89.99

Just because you give someone faster speeds, don't
assume they will consume more bandwidth. Our subs
with faster speeds use 1/2 as much total bandwidth in
any given month as our subs on the slower speed plans
offered by our company.

It is best to get them on and off your network as fast as
you can IMO. If they need something, make it where
they can get that something quickly and you'll have a
very happy subscriber for life! If you don't someone
else will... and when they do, don't blame them, blame
yourself for not doing it first.

What's hard about competing? Competition around here
is beneficial because we beat them hands down in the
areas of service and support. We ask our customers for
their name when they call, instead of their account #,
maybe this has something to do with it? ;-)


Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
Your Hometown Broadband Provider
http://www.KyWiFi.com
Call Us Today: 859.274.4033
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- Original Message - 
From: John J. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 4:03 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service Offerings,By Speed or All You Can Eat? Was: 
Advanced 
Bandwidth Management



But, the model will work if you bill by the bytes

If Joe is paying $40 per month for 6 Gig and gets throttled at 6 Gig, then he 
has a 
disincentive for keeping going. If he is paying $40 for unlimited access, he 
has no reason 
to slow down.

Charter cable is doing 10 meg down/1 meg up in some markets for like $99 per 
month, how 
can you compete with that?

John

-Original Message-
From: Travis Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 07:59 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service Offerings, By Speed or All You Can Eat? Was: 
Advanced 
Bandwidth Management

No... I don't think that model works... because Joe Surfer sees how fast
this last movie downloaded and decides to grab 3 more while he's at it...
The model of the customer will use what they are going to use and then
get off is not true... imagine if Joe Surfer figures out he can
download the movies AND still surf, check email, etc. at the same time?
Then he can just leave it downloading 24x7. :(

Travis
Microserv

RickG wrote:
 Sorry guys for hijacking the thread but this hit a chord...

 I've sold bandwidth in all sorts of ways but the most prevalent is by
 speed which is the  way  am currently doing it. My question is this:
 What if you played the cable game and just sell  all you can eat?
 Would that not free up your network more quickly for everybody else?
 Example: Joe Surfer downloads movies on demand but is too cheap to buy
 your highest speed offering. So, he buys your slowest speed and ties
 up your network much longer. Just  looking for some opinions here ;)

 Thanks!
 RickG

 On 1/24/07, Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 OR, we could stop playing the Cable Co. and Telco games with their up
 to 3meg and up to 7meg connections for $34.95 and just start selling
 what they get.

 We started selling 512k, 1meg, 1.5meg and 2meg connections (up and down,
 guaranteed speed 24x7) about 3 years ago. It was the best thing we ever
 did... people get what they pay for, and when they need more, they buy
 more. No games, no burstable speeds, etc.

 Make your customers pay for what they need and use.

 Travis
 Microserv

 Blair Davis wrote:
  We sell mainly to residential users and to some small businesses.
 
  We are quite rural, and my cost for a T-1 is $450 per month.  My
  pending fiber hookup is $1100 per month for 5Mbit.
 
  A bit ago, a business customer's new IT consultant complained that the
  256Kbit committed rate for $60 a month was over priced.  He demanded a
  1Mbit committed rate and no price change.  I explained this was not
  possible.  He was quite nasty and told me he was recommending that the
  customer find a new ISP.  I, fed up with his big city attitude, told
  him to go right ahead.  He said to come pick up the gear on this
  Friday.  Although, I might have lost my temper a bit and used some
  words that the FCC doesn't permit on the phone..
 
  After he was quoted $600 per month for a T1, (and $9500 install), and
  a 3 month lead time, he called me back...
 
  He decided that my offer of 1Mbit committed rate (6am-6pm, Mon-Fri)
  and a 256Kbit committed rate at other times

[WISPA] Just Testing...

2007-01-12 Thread KyWiFi LLC
The reply I sent at 10:36am EST has not made
it to the list yet so I'm testing the list to see if there
is a problem with it. Please disregard this e-mail.


Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
Your Hometown Broadband Provider
http://www.KyWiFi.com
Call Us Today: 859.274.4033
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Re: [WISPA] Just Testing...

2007-01-12 Thread KyWiFi LLC
Something is wrong with the WISPA list, it is not
delivering my replies. It delivered the one below and
may deliver this one but I replied to an earlier post
regarding EL at 10:36am EST today and it has still not
delivered it to the list as of right now. I re-sent the reply
again at 12:25pm EST and it has not been delivered to
the list either.

Who's in charge of the WISPA list? Can someone
look into this to see what's going on with it?

Thank you.


Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
Your Hometown Broadband Provider
http://www.KyWiFi.com
Call Us Today: 859.274.4033
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$14.99 Home Phone Service
$19.99 All Digital Satellite TV
- No Phone Line Required for DSL
- FREE Activation  Equipment
- Affordable Upfront Pricing
- Locally Owned  Operated
- We Also Service Most Rural Areas
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- Original Message - 
From: KyWiFi LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 11:57 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Just Testing...


The reply I sent at 10:36am EST has not made
it to the list yet so I'm testing the list to see if there
is a problem with it. Please disregard this e-mail.


Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
Your Hometown Broadband Provider
http://www.KyWiFi.com
Call Us Today: 859.274.4033
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$29.99 DSL High Speed Internet
$14.99 Home Phone Service
$19.99 All Digital Satellite TV
- No Phone Line Required for DSL
- FREE Activation  Equipment
- Affordable Upfront Pricing
- Locally Owned  Operated
- We Also Service Most Rural Areas
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   http://www.ispbuddy.com
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[WISPA] Wanted: Antennas, PoE Injectors, RJ45 Feedthru Adapters

2007-01-11 Thread KyWiFi LLC
Just checking to see if any of my fellow list members have any
of the following items in inventory you would like to sell?

QTY Needed Item
20  PacWireless 16dBi Panel PA24-16
20  PacWireless 24dBi Grid DC24HDPF1PF
50  PoE Injector EBU-101-01
100RJ45 Feedthru Adapter RJ45-FT

Hit me off-list ASAP, I have to place an order today for
the above items.


Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
Your Hometown Broadband Provider
http://www.KyWiFi.com
Call Us Today: 859.274.4033
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$14.99 Home Phone Service
$19.99 All Digital Satellite TV
- No Phone Line Required for DSL
- FREE Activation  Equipment
- Affordable Upfront Pricing
- Locally Owned  Operated
- We Also Service Most Rural Areas
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Re: [WISPA] training

2006-12-20 Thread KyWiFi LLC
Hey Dee,

There will be wireless training manuals available for
download and customization on http://www.ispbuddy.com
They will be available in the Tools section of the system.

Go to the URL above and signup for the notification list.
There are already several hundred ISP's and Satellite TV
businesses registered and awaiting system details. Plus,
once you're registered, you can send in feature requests
which will be considered for development and addition to
the system.


Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
Your Hometown Broadband Provider
http://www.KyWiFi.com
Call Us Today: 859.274.4033
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$14.99 Home Phone Service
$19.99 All Digital Satellite TV
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- FREE Activation  Equipment
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- Locally Owned  Operated
- We Also Service Most Rural Areas
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- Original Message - 
From: W.D.McKinney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 2:07 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] training


I really would like to see a simple wireless installation training manual. 
The local 
folks wnat $7K to produce one :-(

-Dee


Alaska Wireless Systems
1(907)240-2183 Cell
1(907)349-2226 Fax
1(907)349-4308 Office
www.akwireless.net


- Original Message -
From: Travis Johnson
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com, WISPA General List
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 18:26:18 -0900
Subject:
[WISPA] training


 Hi,

 Does anyone have a simple wireless installation training manual
 already put together? We are finally to the point we need to have
 something for the new hires, but I want to see if anyone has something
 they want to share?

 Travis
 Microserv
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Re: [WISPA] building out

2006-12-20 Thread KyWiFi LLC
Can someone check this list, I commented on the post below
twice yesterday and they have still not yet been delivered by
the listserv.

Happy Holidays to my fellow WISP's!


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- Original Message - 
From: Charles Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 9:59 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] building out


snip
Profile your best clients.
Pick out who you want your clients to be.
Research them.
Be in front of them.
Sell them.
/snip

Here's one thing to discuss -- selling vs order taking
The conundrum of sales is that everyone LOVES to buy, but HATES being sold
to
When one goes in the mentality to try to sell something -- more often than
not, one ends up more like the greasy car salesperson that leaves a bad
taste in someone's mouth

-Charles

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Peter R.
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 4:52 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] building out


Dylan Oliver wrote:

 Hi Charles,

 Any tips on learning to sell? What's helped you the most?



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Re: [WISPA] Outsourced installations (KyWiFi LLC)

2006-12-13 Thread KyWiFi LLC
I would say you're right Dylan so I am posting this reply on-list
so everyone knows the outcome of our newest company policy
regarding site surveys. (see below)


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- Original Message - 
From: Dylan Oliver
To: KyWiFi LLC
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced installations (KyWiFi LLC)


Thanks for the quick reply! I'll bet others on the list would like to know..

On 12/13/06, KyWiFi LLC wrote:

 Hi Dylan,

 It's working out great, we have made it standard policy.
 We haven't had to charge anyone's credit card because
 they all have purchased our service following a successful
 site survey at their premises.


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 - Original Message -
 From: Dylan Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 9:44 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced installations (KyWiFi LLC)


 How's your new policy for site surveys working out?

 On 10/10/06, KyWiFi LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  If it deters a tire kicker from wasting our company's resources,
  then I will be very happy. I don't believe it will deter anyone
  who is seriously wanting our broadband service as they will
  not be charged a site survey fee unless they decline service
  following a successful site survey at their location.
 
  If I forget, will someone please remind me in a couple months
  so I can report back whether or not our new site survey policy
  is successful or not. Sure will be nice if it works like your puppy
  story. ;-)
 
 
  Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
  KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
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  - Original Message -
  From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 10:45 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced installations (KyWiFi LLC)
 
 
  Its not that I don't understand or agree with your point of view, but I
  just
  question wether it will work based on unecessarily detering customers.
 Its
  hard enough getting someone willing to try wireless in the first place,
  and
  now you are saying that the odds of getting it aren't good enough to to
  risk
  your $29.  If trying to get their business isn't worth $29 to you, They
  may
  not even bother to subscribe.
 
  On the flip side, if your business is like mine, and you focus on
 Business
  and sure things, the lost residential business may not be a bad thing,
 if
  it
  just isn;t financially viable to go after with money at risk.
 
  It also could end up working th opposite. You are establishing value for
  your time. Possibly preventing other from abusing/taking up your time in
  the
  future. And when you set a value, people recognize it as more valuable
 and
  want it more.
 
  It goes back to my puppy story. I put an add for free puppies in the
  paper,
  and nobody called. The next week I put an add Puppies only $25, and sold
  every one of them the first day the paper was out.
 
  I'm interested in seeing how it plays out for you over time, charging
 the
  survey fee. Let us know as the plan progresses.
 
  PS. This is also a factor of wether you are in a underserved or served
  area.
  There is more demand in an underserved area. In my urban market,
 everyone
  offers everything for free.
 
  Tom DeReggi
  RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
  IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: KyWiFi LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 7:57 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced installations (KyWiFi LLC)
 
 
  I think those who decline our service following a successful site
   survey are just tire kickers. They almost always tell our

[WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys

2006-10-29 Thread KyWiFi LLC
What is the best way to power a 12-volt radio for 30 - 60 minutes
before requiring a re-charge? (solution must be re-chargeable via auto
adapter)

We are wanting to use an actual CPE radio with a 19dBi panel
antenna, connected to an iPAQ/Axim so we are needing a re-chargeable
power source for the radio.

BTW, we tried a 9-volt battery but it only kept the radio powered up
for 5 - 10 minutes.

Would something like http://tinyurl.com/vgm4n work?


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Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys

2006-10-29 Thread KyWiFi LLC
So 18vdc *should not* damage a 12vdc radio?

Any idea on how long an 18vdc DeWalt battery pack will
power a 12vdc radio?


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- Original Message - 
From: Eric Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 8:28 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys


We use the 18V DeWalt Flashlights and take the head off.  Put a Cat5
plug on it where the flashlight head was, and you can inject power into
the devices.  Be sure to use a volt meter because on the one I had, Red
was negative, and Black was positive.

If you make a Cisco Reverse PoE cable, you can power the Motorola gear
too.  We used the DeWalt gear because we use the drills, and they all
take the same battery.

Eric

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of KyWiFi LLC
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 5:30 AM
To: WISPA List
Subject: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys

What is the best way to power a 12-volt radio for 30 - 60 minutes
before requiring a re-charge? (solution must be re-chargeable via auto
adapter)

We are wanting to use an actual CPE radio with a 19dBi panel
antenna, connected to an iPAQ/Axim so we are needing a re-chargeable
power source for the radio.

BTW, we tried a 9-volt battery but it only kept the radio powered up
for 5 - 10 minutes.

Would something like http://tinyurl.com/vgm4n work?


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[WISPA] Comcast Tech Video

2006-10-24 Thread KyWiFi LLC
http://tinyurl.com/y8hdpx


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[WISPA] Service Request for Slocomb, AL

2006-10-18 Thread KyWiFi LLC
Can anyone service the following area:

County Road 30
Slocomb, AL 36375

Please reply off list if you can. This is for a residential
account without access to DSL and cable broadband.


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Re: [WISPA] Trying to block Stock Spam

2006-10-18 Thread KyWiFi LLC
We're running Plesk with SpamAssassin for our users' mail. Do
you know if the OCR plugin you reference below will work under
the Plesk software?


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- Original Message - 
From: Andrew Niemantsverdriet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:22 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trying to block Stock Spam


Just use spamAssassin with an OCR plugin it does wonders :)

On 10/17/06, rwf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Marlon-

 We use ASSP. It works great, but it fails a bit at the stock spam that has
 been coming out lately. It is almost entirely a graphic with no readable
 text.
 I figure that the 300+ it kills from just my business and personal Email
 accounts is justification for deleting 1-2 graphical ones a day.

 How does postini filter the graphical spam?

 Ralph


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 Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:36 PM
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 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trying to block Stock Spam

 our postini is doing a pretty good job.


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Re: [WISPA] Covad Expands Broadband Wireless NetworkWithDataFloAcquisition

2006-10-15 Thread KyWiFi LLC
To us on the inside (ISP owners/operators), 1.4x annual revenue
sounds cheap but when you are on the outside it is not so cheap.
I know we would sell our ISP for this amount but there are very few
qualified buyers in the ISP marketplace at this time these few are
looking for 1x annual revenue type deals. So, 1.4x annual revenue
is actually really good considering the market at this time.


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- Original Message - 
From: Charles Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 11:42 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Covad Expands Broadband Wireless 
NetworkWithDataFloAcquisition


Out of curiosity -- how is 1.4x annual revenue considered cheap
Keep in mind...this is $$$ CASH $$$, not stock

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 9:54 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Covad Expands Broadband Wireless Network
WithDataFloAcquisition


Which sounds like to me, DataFlow was in a distressed state, doing a 
firesale..

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Covad Expands Broadband Wireless Network With 
DataFloAcquisition


 Does anyone know anything about DataFlo? According to the press
 release it
 appears they were bought for 1.4x revenue, which seems awfully cheap.

 -Matt

 Peter R. wrote:
 Covad Communications Group Inc. announced it will acquire the assets
 of
 DataFlo Communications LLC, a Chicago-based broadband wireless provider, 
 adding a sixth market to its coverage area.

 Covad will acquire substantially all the assets of DataFlo for 
 approximately $1.4 million in cash. For the full 2006 year, DataFlo 
 expects to generate approximately $1 million in revenue. In keeping 
 with Covad's profitability goals, the transaction is EBITDA 
 accretive. The transaction is expected to close later this month 
 subject to customary closing conditions and regulatory approvals.

 Covad already offers broadband wireless to Los Angeles, San Diego,
 San
 Francisco, Orange County and Las Vegas through its wireless subsidiary 
 NextWeb, which it acquired earlier this year.

 Speaking at the Internet Telephony Conference  Expo today, Claude 
 Tolbert, Covad's senior vice president of product solutions planning 
 and priorities, said the acquisition of NextWeb was primarily in 
 response to regulatory uncertainty over the company's access to 
 incumbent broadband networks. With that concern ameliorated, he said, 
 the DataFlo deal is more of a continuation of an overlay network 
 strategy.

 Broadband wireless allows the company to provide higher-capacity 
 services. It can offer 100mbps on unlicensed band and 10mbps on 
 licensed bands - speeds unavailable with DSL. Broadband wireless also 
 enables Covad to turn up services more quickly, reducing intervals 
 from 25 days for wireline to 10 days for wireless. It also enables 
 the company to serve clientele with temporary needs.

 Tolbert said the DataFlo network is pre-WiMAX and serves businesses
 via a
 direct sales force. This distribution strategy, he added, will help Covad

 to balance its predominantly wholesale focus.


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Re: [WISPA] Covad Expands BroadbandWirelessNetworkWithDataFloAcquisition

2006-10-15 Thread KyWiFi LLC
Yes, our WISP is for sale and yes, we would consider selling
out for 1.4x annual revenue. This amount would basically just
cover our investment into the company so yes, it would be a
giveaway for the most part. If anyone is interested, contact me
off list for a NDA.

The only reason we are wanting to sell is because my partner
and I each own other businesses and all of them are doing very
well. My partner is not able to devote more than a few hours a
month to our WISP so I am the one left wearing all of the hats
and spending the time running it. It's just not an equal partnership
based on the money we each invested to start it so this is why
we would like to sell it. This is the first and last partnership I will
ever be involved with. If I can't do it myself or pay someone
to do it for me then it is not a good fit IMO.


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- Original Message - 
From: rwf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 12:52 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Covad Expands 
BroadbandWirelessNetworkWithDataFloAcquisition


I guess... If you want to give your company away.
Your WISP is for sale, I believe- would you take that if offered?
I'm sure Matt wants to expand his network up thataway g.
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of KyWiFi LLC
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 12:41 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Covad Expands Broadband
WirelessNetworkWithDataFloAcquisition

To us on the inside (ISP owners/operators), 1.4x annual revenue sounds
cheap but when you are on the outside it is not so cheap.
I know we would sell our ISP for this amount but there are very few
qualified buyers in the ISP marketplace at this time these few are looking
for 1x annual revenue type deals. So, 1.4x annual revenue is actually
really good considering the market at this time.


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[WISPA] StarOS/WRAP/CM9 Issue

2006-10-15 Thread KyWiFi LLC
We are experiencing a recurring problem with one of the WRAP
boards running StarOS with CM-9 cards in our network. The problem
initially started out with the board locking up every 3 - 4 days like
clockwork. The problem was resolved by an onsite reboot because
I was unable to login to the board and it was unresponsive after it
locked up. After several onsite visits over the past month and after
replacing the power supply, poe injector and Cat5 surge protectors
on both ends of the Cat5, I decided that it was a bad WRAP board
so I replaced it with a new one. To be on the safe side, I re-configured
the board manually without uploading the server.dat backup file. The
board worked fine for a week and then the clients on wpci1 lost their
connection. I was able to login to the board and reboot it this time but
the reboot did not resolve the issue. None of the clients on this CM-9
were able to re-associate to it following the reboot. The issue was resolved
by replacing that particular CM-9 card with a new one. Well, a week later,
it is doing the same exact thing again. The other CM-9 is working properly
as it is serving a BH link to one of our other sites. The signal on it is normal
and clients are passing traffic through it (wpci2) normally. Has anyone
experienced this type of problem in their own network? At this point, I am
thinking we received a bad batch of CM-9 cards or there is a problem with
the Cat5. Being that it is happening with the same card slot (wpci1) I honestly
do not feel it is a Cat5 related issue so I'm leaning more towards it being
a bad batch of CM-9 cards or defective WRAP board. Any tips on further
troubleshooting this issue? What are the odds of it being a problem with
the Cat5 cable?


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Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results

2006-10-13 Thread KyWiFi LLC
Thank you for sharing this information with the list Joe, I appreciate
it and I'm sure others do too!

Please let us know if you decide to play with 900Mhz using an omni
instead of a sector as I would be interested in hearing the range that
is possible with an omni compared to a sector. I have my eye on the
PacWireless OD9-11 (http://tinyurl.com/vq7dj).

TGIF.


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- Original Message - 
From: Joe Laura [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results


Well, I finally got time to hang the 900 A/P tonight. MT with SR9 on a 532a.
Client is a Rb112. Superpass 10dbi sector and a 10dbi panel for the client.
While its not the golden bullet sorta speak I am very impressed with it.
What better place to test than City Park. Its full of old tall oaks. From
about two miles out I was seeing -75 signal and easily squeezing 2 megs up
and down. I always see a lower upload on other gear but the 900 down and up
always seemed to be almost the same. I have had many calls from a
subdivision that was flooded from the storm and they still do not have bell
or cable in there. I tried doing two houses in that subdivision without any
luck with 2.4. Its loaded with trees. Well from my truck at these two
locations I had no problem seeing a -72 signal. As I got a little closer to
the pop maybe 1 mile I was seeing a -70 with still quite a few trees in the
way and I was seeing four megs up and down This is where it seemed to peak
out at. Like someone said its another tool in the tool box. Its just what I
needed because while 2.4 will burn through some trees the 900m shots will do
so much better.
Superior Wireless
New Orleans,La.
www.superior1.com

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Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results

2006-10-13 Thread KyWiFi LLC
This is quite remarkable Lonnie, thank you for sharing.

I assume you are using StarOS on WAR boards for the
5.8GHz and 900MHz links referenced below?


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- Original Message - 
From: Lonnie Nunweiler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results


We are using the PacWireless 11 dB yagis for our AP.  We are fortunate
in that we have a narrow valley so that two 11 dB yagis cover both
directions very nicely.

I set up and AP 42 km from my first install.  It is linked at 5.8 GHz
with 3 foot dishes and CM9 radios.  I get -70 dB signals and it is
solid.  For a hoot I turned the 900 AP into a client and did a site
survey and it saw and was able to link to the 900 AP 42 km away.  The
signal was a -76 dB and it was very usable and no packet loss.  This
is with near perfect LOS.  The other direction had a very large group
of trees to go through BUT I still saw a -84 dB signal from 20 km and
it was stable and usable.

Lonnie

On 10/13/06, KyWiFi LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thank you for sharing this information with the list Joe, I appreciate
 it and I'm sure others do too!

 Please let us know if you decide to play with 900Mhz using an omni
 instead of a sector as I would be interested in hearing the range that
 is possible with an omni compared to a sector. I have my eye on the
 PacWireless OD9-11 (http://tinyurl.com/vq7dj).

 TGIF.


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 KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
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 http://www.KyWiFi.com
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 - Original Message -
 From: Joe Laura [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 10:44 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results


 Well, I finally got time to hang the 900 A/P tonight. MT with SR9 on a 532a.
 Client is a Rb112. Superpass 10dbi sector and a 10dbi panel for the client.
 While its not the golden bullet sorta speak I am very impressed with it.
 What better place to test than City Park. Its full of old tall oaks. From
 about two miles out I was seeing -75 signal and easily squeezing 2 megs up
 and down. I always see a lower upload on other gear but the 900 down and up
 always seemed to be almost the same. I have had many calls from a
 subdivision that was flooded from the storm and they still do not have bell
 or cable in there. I tried doing two houses in that subdivision without any
 luck with 2.4. Its loaded with trees. Well from my truck at these two
 locations I had no problem seeing a -72 signal. As I got a little closer to
 the pop maybe 1 mile I was seeing a -70 with still quite a few trees in the
 way and I was seeing four megs up and down This is where it seemed to peak
 out at. Like someone said its another tool in the tool box. Its just what I
 needed because while 2.4 will burn through some trees the 900m shots will do
 so much better.
 Superior Wireless
 New Orleans,La.
 www.superior1.com

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Re: [WISPA] Nuvio Down?

2006-10-13 Thread KyWiFi LLC
Same here, our customers' calls were being routed to an automated
Qwest recording over the past few weeks. Not all calls, but something
like 8 out of every 10 calls placed.

Nuvio is going downhill, maybe they will turn things around and be
honest with their partners. If not, I don't expect to see them in business
for the longterm.

We are already taking initiatives to migrate our VoIP subscribers to
an in-house Asterisk server and I advise you and any others interested
in selling VoIP to do the same. We need to have the highest amount of
control over the services we sell consumers. When something goes
south, I want to kick myself in the rear and fix the problem instead of
being at the mercy of a third party vendor.


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KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
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- Original Message - 
From: C. Moses [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 10:36 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Nuvio Down?


We had the same BS
They had the nerve to tell us  basically the same as your letter but in our
case the actually disassociated numbers and business (when someone tried to
call) were receiving this number is no longer in service 
OH THIS WENT OVER WELL let me tell ya

And of course NUVIO recites the same rhetoric.we are not experiencing
network issues

Humph !



Chuck Moses 
HIGH DESERT WIRELESS BROADBAND COMMUNICATION 
16922 Airport Blvd # 17
Mojave CA 93501 
661 824 3431 office
818 406 6818 cell 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of KyWiFi LLC
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 5:15 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nuvio Down?

Is our company the only Nuvio Private Label Partner who has reported
this to Nuvio or are there others? See their e-mail below...

From: Mike Roberts
To: KyWiFi LLC
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 2:48 PM
Subject: RE: October  November Sales

Shannon, 

This is the first if have heard of this.  Nuvio has not been
experiencing any service issues, nor have we had any system wide
problems.  Do you have any specific examples?  Have you, or your
customers, contacted Nuvio technical support?  Do you have any ticket
numbers?

Lets get in touch to find out what is going on. 

Best regards,

Mike Roberts

-Original Message-
From: KyWiFi LLC
To: Mike Roberts
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: October  November Sales

Hi Mike,

Any idea when Nuvio is going resolve the call routing and
voice quality issues which have plagued the Nuvio service
over the past couple weeks? Our subscribers are dropping
like flies. The problem is not with our network as our subs
are switching to other VoIP providers and their service is
working flawlessly.


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- Original Message - 
From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nuvio Down?


It could be that Nuvio isn't watching Level(3) as L3 changes it's BGP 
tables twice a day.
Or it could be they are experiencing outages.
TW Cable had a statewide DNS failure on Friday (all day).
XO had a bad outage this week.
Could be a billing issue.
Could be lots of things

- Peter

C. Moses wrote:

AGAIN !!!

Chuck Moses 
HIGH DESERT WIRELESS BROADBAND COMMUNICATION 
16922 Airport Blvd # 17
Mojave CA 93501 
661 824 3431 office
818 406 6818 cell 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Brad Belton
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 12:41 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Nuvio Down?

Anyone able to get to the Nuvio website?  Phones are down too...sigh

Thanks,

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Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results

2006-10-13 Thread KyWiFi LLC
It's okay to mention StarOS Lonnie, the more details
the better IMO.


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- Original Message - 
From: Lonnie Nunweiler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results


Yes that is with WAR boards and StarV3, but the point was more the
range that can be attained and the antenna used (which is why I did
not even mention StarOS).

Lonnie

On 10/13/06, KyWiFi LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This is quite remarkable Lonnie, thank you for sharing.

 I assume you are using StarOS on WAR boards for the
 5.8GHz and 900MHz links referenced below?


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 - Original Message -
 From: Lonnie Nunweiler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 12:44 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results


 We are using the PacWireless 11 dB yagis for our AP.  We are fortunate
 in that we have a narrow valley so that two 11 dB yagis cover both
 directions very nicely.

 I set up and AP 42 km from my first install.  It is linked at 5.8 GHz
 with 3 foot dishes and CM9 radios.  I get -70 dB signals and it is
 solid.  For a hoot I turned the 900 AP into a client and did a site
 survey and it saw and was able to link to the 900 AP 42 km away.  The
 signal was a -76 dB and it was very usable and no packet loss.  This
 is with near perfect LOS.  The other direction had a very large group
 of trees to go through BUT I still saw a -84 dB signal from 20 km and
 it was stable and usable.

 Lonnie

 On 10/13/06, KyWiFi LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Thank you for sharing this information with the list Joe, I appreciate
  it and I'm sure others do too!
 
  Please let us know if you decide to play with 900Mhz using an omni
  instead of a sector as I would be interested in hearing the range that
  is possible with an omni compared to a sector. I have my eye on the
  PacWireless OD9-11 (http://tinyurl.com/vq7dj).
 
  TGIF.
 
 
  Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
  KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
  Your Hometown Broadband Provider
  http://www.KyWiFi.com
  Call Us Today: 859.274.4033
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  - Original Message -
  From: Joe Laura [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 10:44 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results
 
 
  Well, I finally got time to hang the 900 A/P tonight. MT with SR9 on a 532a.
  Client is a Rb112. Superpass 10dbi sector and a 10dbi panel for the client.
  While its not the golden bullet sorta speak I am very impressed with it.
  What better place to test than City Park. Its full of old tall oaks. From
  about two miles out I was seeing -75 signal and easily squeezing 2 megs up
  and down. I always see a lower upload on other gear but the 900 down and up
  always seemed to be almost the same. I have had many calls from a
  subdivision that was flooded from the storm and they still do not have bell
  or cable in there. I tried doing two houses in that subdivision without any
  luck with 2.4. Its loaded with trees. Well from my truck at these two
  locations I had no problem seeing a -72 signal. As I got a little closer to
  the pop maybe 1 mile I was seeing a -70 with still quite a few trees in the
  way and I was seeing four megs up and down This is where it seemed to peak
  out at. Like someone said its another tool in the tool box. Its just what I
  needed because while 2.4 will burn through some trees the 900m shots will do
  so much better.
  Superior Wireless
  New Orleans,La.
  www.superior1.com
 
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Re: [WISPA] Outsourced installations (KyWiFi LLC)

2006-10-10 Thread KyWiFi LLC
I think those who decline our service following a successful site
survey are just tire kickers. They almost always tell our subcontractor
that they will speak to the wife and get back to us or they were
merely wanting to see if our service was available in their area.
People of this stature waste our time and resources, they are the ones
that we need to avoid from the get go in order to optimize our company's
efficiency. I do not feel that we should punish ethical customers by
charging an inflated installation fee to subsidize our site survey expenses
incurred by the tire kickers. We've decided that we are going to require
a signed site survey request form with payment authorization prior to the
site survey being performed and those who decline service following a
successful site survey WILL BE billed the applicable site survey fee. If
they are serious about obtaining our service, they will find a fax machine
or scanner to return the signed document to our company. Feel free to
follow-up with me in a couple of months to see how this new policy is
working for our WISP. BTW, the other WISP in our area is charging
$75 - $150 for a site survey fee. The word on the street is that they are
adding 4 - 5 new subscribers per day but I find this very hard to believe
because we are only adding 4 - 5 per week but our coverage area is
more limited than their's. They are also charging $300 - $500 in upfront
installation/CPE fees compared to our $99 upfront fee. When their
company was planning expansion into our area, my partner and I hosted
a conference call with their two owners and they told us point blank,
people will pay us whatever we charge them because we are their
only option. This is just the opposite of how my partner and I approach
our WISP, we did not get into this business to get rich, we simply wanted
to offer a better service (for less) to the communities we service. We're
not the type of company who's strategy involves taking advantage of
people but if someone wants something (a site survey for instance), they
need to pay for it because it's the fair thing to do being that it does require
time, labor and other expenses. For now, we're just going to enforce the
site survey fee for those who are disrespectful of our resources (i.e. those
who decline our service following a successful site survey). Time will tell.


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- Original Message - 
From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 7:56 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced installations (KyWiFi LLC)


It seems more likely that Blair is disqualifying his prospects before 
spending money on a site survey.

One of the best sales skills is the ability to DQ prospects early - it 
saves the sales guy and the company time and money.

If the site survey for the prospect comes back positive, what are the 
objections?
Are you creating a response for each objection?

How are you presenting the site survey results?
Is it an enthusiastic delivery like The Irrestible Offer or is it flat?
 Wonderful! Right now you have a chance to get our broadband service. 
In just 2 days we will have you surfing the web on a safe, reliable and 
fast platform.

- Peter
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Re: [WISPA] Re: Outsourced installations (KyWiFi LLC)

2006-10-10 Thread KyWiFi LLC
Will 700Mhz not work like the local tv station broadcast?
I mean, if someone can pick up a local tv station's broadcast via
an antenna, they should be able to receive broadband via the same
spectrum, right? Are you saying that 700Mhz is not much better
than 900Mhz?


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- Original Message - 
From: Chris Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 7:17 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Re: Outsourced installations (KyWiFi LLC)


You are still going to need to do site surveys w/ 700. If you are in rolling
terrain, the 700 is going to have the same problem with dirt as 900

c

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of KyWiFi LLC
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 2:07 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Re: Outsourced installations (KyWiFi LLC)


I can see both sides. Since we haven't implemented the new policy
yet, we may just charge the $29.99 site survey fee if they decline
service after a successful site survey. We only charge $99 for installation
and our CPE is provided on a free-to-use basis as we are competing
against one other WISP, cable and DSL. Out of 10 site surveys, only
3 or 4 are successful due to the rolling terrain in our coverage area and
we have (17) broadcast sites! Now if we were using 900Mhz, we could
probably double our site survey success rate but fewer people would be
interested because of the cost of the 900Mhz CPE which we would have
to pass along to them in order for it to be feasible.

In a perfect world, prospects should expect to pay for an onsite site
survey because there are costs involved (labor and gas). Too bad we
don't live in a perfect world.

Hopefully unlicensed 700Mhz will become available in our lifetime and
we can avoid site surveys altogether. I wonder though if it will be less
costly than 900Mhz gear when/if that time does come?


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- Original Message -
From: Justin Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 8:48 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Re: Outsourced installations (KyWiFi LLC)


I would not be happy about the $29.95 fee. If you can get away
with it go right ahead.  I look at it the customer is betting $29.95 that
they can get service.  I would rather have it here if they can get
service, and they don't then they are charged $29.95. If they can't get
service why should they have to pay $29.95?  That would be like going to
buy a new car. You want a Blue one with a stick shift. The dealer can't
get you one, but they charge you $29.95 for looking. I think the word will
spread pretty quickly. Customers are a weird beast. I can see the coffee
shop conversations now:

  Joe:Yeah that company came out and did a site survey to see if
they could get me wireless
  Bob  How did that go?
  Joe The installer guy waived an antenna around and said he could
not get me a signal
  Bob Too bad, so what now?
  Joe I don't know, but I got charged $29.95 for him coming out
  Bob What? They are supposed to come out next week. I don't want
them charging me $29.95 if they can't hook me up.

  Just my .02
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Re: [WISPA] Outsourced installations (KyWiFi LLC)

2006-10-10 Thread KyWiFi LLC
If it deters a tire kicker from wasting our company's resources,
then I will be very happy. I don't believe it will deter anyone
who is seriously wanting our broadband service as they will
not be charged a site survey fee unless they decline service
following a successful site survey at their location.

If I forget, will someone please remind me in a couple months
so I can report back whether or not our new site survey policy
is successful or not. Sure will be nice if it works like your puppy
story. ;-)


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- Original Message - 
From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced installations (KyWiFi LLC)


Its not that I don't understand or agree with your point of view, but I just 
question wether it will work based on unecessarily detering customers. Its 
hard enough getting someone willing to try wireless in the first place, and 
now you are saying that the odds of getting it aren't good enough to to risk 
your $29.  If trying to get their business isn't worth $29 to you, They may 
not even bother to subscribe.

On the flip side, if your business is like mine, and you focus on Business 
and sure things, the lost residential business may not be a bad thing, if it 
just isn;t financially viable to go after with money at risk.

It also could end up working th opposite. You are establishing value for 
your time. Possibly preventing other from abusing/taking up your time in the 
future. And when you set a value, people recognize it as more valuable and 
want it more.

It goes back to my puppy story. I put an add for free puppies in the paper, 
and nobody called. The next week I put an add Puppies only $25, and sold 
every one of them the first day the paper was out.

I'm interested in seeing how it plays out for you over time, charging the 
survey fee. Let us know as the plan progresses.

PS. This is also a factor of wether you are in a underserved or served area. 
There is more demand in an underserved area. In my urban market, everyone 
offers everything for free.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: KyWiFi LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 7:57 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced installations (KyWiFi LLC)


I think those who decline our service following a successful site
 survey are just tire kickers. They almost always tell our subcontractor
 that they will speak to the wife and get back to us or they were
 merely wanting to see if our service was available in their area.
 People of this stature waste our time and resources, they are the ones
 that we need to avoid from the get go in order to optimize our company's
 efficiency. I do not feel that we should punish ethical customers by
 charging an inflated installation fee to subsidize our site survey 
 expenses
 incurred by the tire kickers. We've decided that we are going to require
 a signed site survey request form with payment authorization prior to the
 site survey being performed and those who decline service following a
 successful site survey WILL BE billed the applicable site survey fee. If
 they are serious about obtaining our service, they will find a fax machine
 or scanner to return the signed document to our company. Feel free to
 follow-up with me in a couple of months to see how this new policy is
 working for our WISP. BTW, the other WISP in our area is charging
 $75 - $150 for a site survey fee. The word on the street is that they are
 adding 4 - 5 new subscribers per day but I find this very hard to believe
 because we are only adding 4 - 5 per week but our coverage area is
 more limited than their's. They are also charging $300 - $500 in upfront
 installation/CPE fees compared to our $99 upfront fee. When their
 company was planning expansion into our area, my partner and I hosted
 a conference call with their two owners and they told us point blank,
 people will pay us whatever we charge them because we are their
 only option. This is just the opposite of how my partner and I approach
 our WISP, we did not get into this business to get rich, we simply wanted
 to offer a better service (for less) to the communities we service. We're
 not the type of company who's strategy involves taking advantage of
 people but if someone wants something (a site survey for instance), they
 need to pay for it because it's the fair thing to do being that it does

[WISPA] OsBridge CPE

2006-10-10 Thread KyWiFi LLC
Anyone using the OsBridge 5GXi CPE in their network and
care to share their comments on or off list? We are chomping
at the bit to offer a 10Mbps/1Mbps service but we need an
affordable 5Ghz CPE to make it a reality. With the OsBridge
5GXi model coming in at $200 per unit, it has caught my eye.

Does the OsBridge 5GXi play nice with StarOS and Mikrotik?
How susceptible is it to static build-up and non-direct lightning
strikes? What type of throughput are you seeing with it at 3 - 5
miles?

The OsBridge 5GXt (http://www.osbridge.com/products5.php)
and OsBridge 900XL (http://www.osbridge.com/products900.php)
are also rather interesting but their pricing may be a show stopper.
Anyone tried either of these models?


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Re: [WISPA] Re: Outsourced installations (KyWiFi LLC)

2006-10-09 Thread KyWiFi LLC
I can see both sides. Since we haven't implemented the new policy
yet, we may just charge the $29.99 site survey fee if they decline
service after a successful site survey. We only charge $99 for installation
and our CPE is provided on a free-to-use basis as we are competing
against one other WISP, cable and DSL. Out of 10 site surveys, only
3 or 4 are successful due to the rolling terrain in our coverage area and
we have (17) broadcast sites! Now if we were using 900Mhz, we could
probably double our site survey success rate but fewer people would be
interested because of the cost of the 900Mhz CPE which we would have
to pass along to them in order for it to be feasible.

In a perfect world, prospects should expect to pay for an onsite site
survey because there are costs involved (labor and gas). Too bad we
don't live in a perfect world.

Hopefully unlicensed 700Mhz will become available in our lifetime and
we can avoid site surveys altogether. I wonder though if it will be less
costly than 900Mhz gear when/if that time does come?


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- Original Message - 
From: Justin Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 8:48 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Re: Outsourced installations (KyWiFi LLC)


I would not be happy about the $29.95 fee. If you can get away 
with it go right ahead.  I look at it the customer is betting $29.95 that 
they can get service.  I would rather have it here if they can get 
service, and they don't then they are charged $29.95. If they can't get 
service why should they have to pay $29.95?  That would be like going to 
buy a new car. You want a Blue one with a stick shift. The dealer can't 
get you one, but they charge you $29.95 for looking. I think the word will 
spread pretty quickly. Customers are a weird beast. I can see the coffee 
shop conversations now:

  Joe:Yeah that company came out and did a site survey to see if 
they could get me wireless
  Bob  How did that go?
  Joe The installer guy waived an antenna around and said he could 
not get me a signal
  Bob Too bad, so what now?
  Joe I don't know, but I got charged $29.95 for him coming out
  Bob What? They are supposed to come out next week. I don't want 
them charging me $29.95 if they can't hook me up.

  Just my .02
  Justin

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[WISPA] Welding Cable For Grounding?

2006-10-08 Thread KyWiFi LLC
Anyone used a welding cable for a tower ground? We have ran
across a really good deal on 2 and 4 guage welding cable and
would like to use it for grounding of our upcoming sites in place of
the 2 guage copper wire we've been buying from Lowe's. It is
composed of many very fine copper strands which makes it very
easy to bend. Will the small copper strands perform the same as
thicker strands or solid copper wire? Anyone have experience
with using it or know if it will perform the same as other 2 and 4
guage wire types?


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Re: [WISPA] lightning

2006-10-07 Thread KyWiFi LLC
Lightning is by far the largest threat to our WISP. It would be interesting
to know the typical CPE failure rate (due to lightning) experienced by
WISP's. I know that we'll replace 10% (+/- 5%) this year due to lightning.
We use the $30 Citel brand Cat5 surge protectors on both ends of the
outdoor shielded Cat5 and we also ground the mounting arm to an approved
earth ground via 10 guage copper wire. I don't believe we've taken any
direct strikes, mainly blown Ethernet ports on the CPE or AP. IMO, owning
a WISP would be a LOT less stressful if wireless gear was not so prone to
damage caused by lightning.

BTW, if you would like to share your own CPE-lightning-failure-rates with
the list, please do so. Same goes for lightning protection tips, tricks and
wisdom.

Anyone using coaxial surge protection on 50% or more of your CPE
installations? If so, would you say that it is worth the extra $15 - $20
per install? How do your failure rates with coaxial surge protection
compare with installations where there is none?


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- Original Message - 
From: Brent Hegerfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 5:06 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] lightning


Lightning has not been very kind to us the past few months.  Knocked a
backhaul out on our main tower, another tower hit 3 times (twice in 1 week),
another tower hit this past week, going on 10+ CPE's.  I'm told the
probability of lightning over the next 4 months is low.  Let's hope.

Brent Hegerfeld
East Allen High Speed Internet, LLC.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of KyWiFi LLC
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:31 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] lightning

We offer an optional $4.99 Equipment Protection Plan for residential
subscribers and it's $9.99 for Commercial and Non-Profit accounts.
If they wish to waive it, they must furnish us with documentation from
their insurance agency stating that it will be covered. No exceptions.
As a result, approx. 95% of our subscribers purchase our EPP. The
added revenue allows us to cover the cost of CPE that gets taken out
by lightning and the associated service call fees we incur.


Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
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http://www.KyWiFi.com
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- Original Message - 
From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] lightning


If it's your equipment and the customer didn't damage it (hit it with a rock
etc.) then 
it's your problem to deal with.

The cheaper the gear, usually the easier it is to break :-).

I've had much less trouble this year with cpe from Tranzeo than from any
other brand I've 
used.

Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
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  - Original Message - 
  From: chris cooper
  To: 'WISPA General List'
  Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 7:55 AM
  Subject: [WISPA] lightning


  We had the lightning storm of the century here 2 days ago.  It was an
awesome spectacle 
to witness.  It was a much more distressing spectacle to watch our network
map begin to 
blink red all over the place.  Which leads me to a couple of questions:



  How do you handle customer installations that get fried?  We install and
own the gear. 
We are taking the external ones on the chin.  We took down one panel that
has a big black 
hole right in the center. Another customer has a hole in his roof- our gear
died along 
with the roof. What do you do if the customer AC takes a shot, and burns
your equipment? 
Do they pay because it came in on their side or do you take the replacement
and the truck 
roll on the chin because you own the equipment?



  We have multiple brands of products on the same towers.  The tower that
took a hit was 
populated with, among other things, some B-14s, proxim QB, and some

Re: [WISPA] lightning

2006-10-07 Thread KyWiFi LLC
Can you share some info on the $1.50 inductor you reference below?
Do you then ground the inductor to the mounting arm which is then
grounded to an earth ground? Please share if you don't mind, inquiring
minds would LOVE to know. ;-)

Also, where are the bulk of your subscribers located (city/state)? I
would venture to say that WISP's out west have fewer lightning
related failures than WISP's in the East or South.


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- Original Message - 
From: Jenco Wireless [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] lightning


I lost 15% of my CPE's one year.  It was a dry Summer (I theorize the earth
was not conducting well), then we had a couple of bad storms.  Using  a
$1.50 inductor on the Ethernet cable near the radios really seems to have
helped a lot.


Brad Hagstrom


On 10/7/06, Jason Hensley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Actually, I've been fairly lucky.  The only lightning losses I've had were
 on my tower.  I've got one CPE that may have been taken out by lightning,
 but it came through the house and blew a LOT of other stuff as well.  To
 me,
 to add $30 per install doesn't make sense when I've only lost 1
 (percentage-wise, less than 1% for me) in a little over a year.




 - Original Message -
 From: KyWiFi LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 2:53 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] lightning


  Lightning is by far the largest threat to our WISP. It would be
  interesting
  to know the typical CPE failure rate (due to lightning) experienced by
  WISP's. I know that we'll replace 10% (+/- 5%) this year due to
 lightning.
  We use the $30 Citel brand Cat5 surge protectors on both ends of the
  outdoor shielded Cat5 and we also ground the mounting arm to an approved
  earth ground via 10 guage copper wire. I don't believe we've taken any
  direct strikes, mainly blown Ethernet ports on the CPE or AP. IMO,
 owning
  a WISP would be a LOT less stressful if wireless gear was not so prone
 to
  damage caused by lightning.
 
  BTW, if you would like to share your own CPE-lightning-failure-rates
 with
  the list, please do so. Same goes for lightning protection tips, tricks
  and
  wisdom.
 
  Anyone using coaxial surge protection on 50% or more of your CPE
  installations? If so, would you say that it is worth the extra $15 - $20
  per install? How do your failure rates with coaxial surge protection
  compare with installations where there is none?
 
 
  Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
  KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
  Your Hometown Broadband Provider
  http://www.KyWiFi.com
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  - Original Message -
  From: Brent Hegerfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 5:06 PM
  Subject: RE: [WISPA] lightning
 
 
  Lightning has not been very kind to us the past few months.  Knocked a
  backhaul out on our main tower, another tower hit 3 times (twice in 1
  week),
  another tower hit this past week, going on 10+ CPE's.  I'm told the
  probability of lightning over the next 4 months is low.  Let's hope.
 
  Brent Hegerfeld
  East Allen High Speed Internet, LLC.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of KyWiFi LLC
  Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:31 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] lightning
 
  We offer an optional $4.99 Equipment Protection Plan for residential
  subscribers and it's $9.99 for Commercial and Non-Profit accounts.
  If they wish to waive it, they must furnish us with documentation from
  their insurance agency stating that it will be covered. No exceptions.
  As a result, approx. 95% of our subscribers purchase our EPP. The
  added revenue allows us to cover the cost of CPE that gets taken out
  by lightning and the associated service call fees we incur.
 
 
  Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
  KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
  Your Hometown Broadband Provider
  http://www.KyWiFi.com
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Re: [WISPA] Outsourced installations

2006-10-07 Thread KyWiFi LLC
We pay $10 - $30 to a sub-contractor to do a site survey and
we usually have 5 - 10 of them a week. This has been an expense
we've absorbed but starting in the next few days, we will be
passing this fee along to the person requesting the site survey.
If their site survey is successful and they purchase our service,
their site survey will be free. If their site survey is unsuccessful
or if it is successful but they do not purchase our service within
(3) business days following us notifying them that the site survey
was successful, then their credit card will be billed a $29.99 site
survey fee. We will be having them submit their credit card info
at the time of their site survey request so we have it on file prior
to their site survey. This will also streamline things because the
subcontractor will no longer need to ask them for their credit card
info on the day of their installation.

How are other list members handling site survey related expenses?

BTW, we keep a database of street addresses which show if
its site survey was successful or not. This allows us to avoid
site surveys in the same area from time to time depending on the
terrain.

While we're on the topic of site surveys, has anyone heard or seen
of an affordable handheld device that can be attached to an antenna
and then display the SSID and signal/noise readings? I know
bvsystems.com has some similar devices but they are way over
priced IMHO. I purchased an iPAQ and PCMCIA expansion
sleeve but every Orinoco Gold card I have locks up in it after a
few minutes so it is not what I would call reliable. I wonder if you
can purchase a PCMCIA expansion sleeve for the Dell Axim PDA?
I really think it would perform better than the iPAQ if this is possible.


Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
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- Original Message - 
From: Mark Nash - Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced installations


I've done all of our installations so things have been easy, but I'm moving 
toward 
contractor installs.  As it has been, I have not done site surveys...I go out 
to install 
and if I don't get the connection I walk away and the customer doesn't owe us 
anything. 
So I'm out a little time and a slot on the schedule...big deal.

With contractor installs, how do people handle this?  Do we do site surveys 
prior to the 
installation?  I know that there are owners out there that own remote systems 
so you must 
pay something for site surveys or pay something for unsuccessful 
installations???

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax

  - Original Message - 
  From: Rick Smith
  To: 'WISPA General List'
  Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 9:57 AM
  Subject: RE: [WISPA] Outsourced installations


  right – but I hand them the EQ, name and number and let them schedule their 
installs.



  They pay me $10 back if I hear from a customer that they didn’t make an 
appointment, and 
they credit me the install if I

  get a complaint serious enough from the customer.. J



  R





  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete 
Davis
  Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 12:15 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced installations



  We actually did that for a while. It works out well, except that a contractor 
must 
provide his own tools and manage his own time. In other words, I cannot promise 
that he 
will be at Mr Smith's house at 2:00p on Wednesday. He has to be the one to 
schedule 
installs. It gets real fuzzy there.

  pd

  Rick Smith wrote:

  the answer is hire a company to do installations for you.  if your employee 
just happens 
to own that company, well, oh well…



  It’s all invoices.   Pay them as normal, and you don’t need to worry about 
taxes, etc. 
Your employee (or sub’d company J…) does that on their own.



  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom 
DeReggi
  Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 5:28 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced installations



  Where the problems come in are, that paying someone peice rate does NOT 
NEGATE the 
requirement to pay overtime for Employees.

  Nor does it Negate the IRS's definition of what an EMployee is and a 
contractor is.



  You have to restrict employees to work less than 40 hours or prepair to pay 
time and a 
half for your peice rate.  If an employee works 60 hours, and completes three 
installs

Re: [WISPA] lightning

2006-10-06 Thread KyWiFi LLC
We offer an optional $4.99 Equipment Protection Plan for residential
subscribers and it's $9.99 for Commercial and Non-Profit accounts.
If they wish to waive it, they must furnish us with documentation from
their insurance agency stating that it will be covered. No exceptions.
As a result, approx. 95% of our subscribers purchase our EPP. The
added revenue allows us to cover the cost of CPE that gets taken out
by lightning and the associated service call fees we incur.


Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
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- Original Message - 
From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] lightning


If it's your equipment and the customer didn't damage it (hit it with a rock 
etc.) then 
it's your problem to deal with.

The cheaper the gear, usually the easier it is to break :-).

I've had much less trouble this year with cpe from Tranzeo than from any other 
brand I've 
used.

Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



  - Original Message - 
  From: chris cooper
  To: 'WISPA General List'
  Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 7:55 AM
  Subject: [WISPA] lightning


  We had the lightning storm of the century here 2 days ago.  It was an awesome 
spectacle 
to witness.  It was a much more distressing spectacle to watch our network map 
begin to 
blink red all over the place.  Which leads me to a couple of questions:



  How do you handle customer installations that get fried?  We install and own 
the gear. 
We are taking the external ones on the chin.  We took down one panel that has a 
big black 
hole right in the center. Another customer has a hole in his roof- our gear 
died along 
with the roof. What do you do if the customer AC takes a shot, and burns your 
equipment? 
Do they pay because it came in on their side or do you take the replacement and 
the truck 
roll on the chin because you own the equipment?



  We have multiple brands of products on the same towers.  The tower that took 
a hit was 
populated with, among other things, some B-14s, proxim QB, and some Tranzeos.  
All units 
are grounded to the same structure/bussbar. The Tranzeos seem much more 
sensitive to 
lightning than some of the other products.  Has anyone had any similar 
experiences with 
them?



  Thanks

  Chris



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Re: [WISPA] Auto rate or Locked rate 802.11b

2006-10-05 Thread KyWiFi LLC
Hi Marshall,

My personal advice is to let the radios negotiate the best rate.
Just make sure they associate at the 11Mbps rate and you'll be
good to go. Anything less and you're going to have un-needed
stress. ;-)


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- Original Message - 
From: rabbtux rabbtux [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 1:22 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Auto rate or Locked rate 802.11b


All,

What is the best practice when configuring 802.11b clients.  Do you
find that locking the client rate to something low (5.5M, 2M) works
best, or is it best just to let the radios negotiate the best rate?

Thanks
marshall
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[WISPA] Current Bandwidth Prices?

2006-09-26 Thread KyWiFi LLC






How much is everyone paying for good quality 
bandwidth? We're in the
market for 10Mbps - 
20Mbps and we're seeing pricing around $100 a meg
for the bandwidth only (we'll be providing our own 
transit via wireless).
This is for Sprint bandwidth via fiber (upstream 
has two OC12 circuits and
has a ton of excess bandwidth 
available).

I'm thinking about asking them for a quote 
for10Mbps/10Mbps burstable
to 100Mbps/100Mbps. Anyone have a burstable plan 
like this with their
upstream? How are high bandwidth burstable plans 
like this usually
priced by a provider?

One provider's quote difference between 10Mbps and 
20Mbps was $400.
Is this typical, do 
fiber prices really drop off like this once you purchase
more than 10Mbps?


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Re: [WISPA] Web site update

2006-08-07 Thread KyWiFi LLC
I agree, you did an excellent job Matt! The tower
image looks like the one in our logo now that you
changed its colors, needless to say, I love the color
update you made to it. ;-)


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- Original Message - 
From: Cliff Leboeuf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Web site update


Matt, I like the new site a lot!


On 8/7/06 3:47 PM, George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thank you Matt Larsen for your hard work.
 http://www.wispa.org/
 
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Re: [WISPA] Automating Mikrotik Backups

2006-07-28 Thread KyWiFi LLC
Did you mean to say updates or backups?

We were planning on writing some scripts to login to
Mikrotik devices to download their backup file but after
realizing that most of the ISP's I know are using static IP's
on their Mikrotik devices, I think the backup-to-email
method is the way to go. What we are going to do is issue
http://www.ISPBuddy.com  members their own unique
e-mail address to configure in their Mikrotik devices. Then,
when ISP Buddy receives the backup files, it will archive them
in the member's account for the time specified by the member.
This way, the member will always have daily backups for all
of their Mikrotik devices and the files will be stored offsite in
a secure environment and accessible 24/7/365 via any Internet
connection.

One thing that we are able to do with StarOS devices that I
have not yet figured out how to do with Mikrotik devices is
the real-time editing of configuration files. The ISP Buddy system
will allow you to select the StarOS device and file type you would
like to edit and then the system will login to the device and
download the file specified (for instance, cbq.txt). The file's
contents are then displayed in an editable textarea field where
you can make the necessary changes (via your browser without
having to use StarUtil or SSH) and then save, upload and activate
the changes on the StarOS device. We would like to offer this
same functionality for Mikrotik users but have not yet figured
out how to accomplish it. Does Mikrotik allow you to write
configuration settings to a plain text file or are all files saved
as binary and not editable outside Mikrotik?


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Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 10:45 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Automating Mikrotik Backups


Has anybody taken this a step further and set up some type of automated “ftp” or
something more secure to download new updates?



Dan Metcalf
Wireless Broadband Systems
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781-566-2053 ext 6201

1-888-wbsystem (888) 927-9783
HYPERLINK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]
support: HYPERLINK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
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Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 9:51 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Automating Mikrotik Backups



/system backup save name=MS1;
/tool e-mail send to=[EMAIL PROTECTED] subject=([/system identity get
name] . Backup) server=10.10.10.10 file=MS1.backup

Put these in a script and schedule the script as often as you want.  I have all
my routers email me on Thursday night.  10.10.10.10 needs to be your mail server
address.

Scott Reed
Owner
NewWays
Wireless Networking
Network Design, Installation and Administration
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From: KyWiFi LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 16:28:52 -0400
Subject: [WISPA] Automating Mikrotik Backups

 Does Mikrotik have a method of backing up its settings
 like is done with the StarOS StarUtil commands? If so,
 what are the commands? I'm wanting to make sure we
 automate this much needed task with HYPERLINK http://www.ispbuddy.com/;
\nhttp://www.ISPBuddy.com
 which will allow automated nightly backups to our remote
 storage facility.

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Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo WDS capacity, Mikrotik - problems

2006-07-26 Thread KyWiFi LLC
Is that 1 radio card serving 200 subscribers or multiple
radio cards? Which radio card(s)? 802.11g or 802.11a?

BTW, bravo on 200 subs from 1 AP! What would you
say the population is for the coverage area of this AP?


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Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 12:56 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo WDS capacity, Mikrotik - problems


Oh yeah that AP is serving about 200 or more subs.

George

George Rogato wrote:
 
 
 Lonnie Nunweiler wrote:
 As a general rule you should not consider any customer if the cannot
 achieve at least a 5.5 mbps connection. 
 
 Hey Lonnie, you should try war boards, speed is killer. here's my speed 
 test across a pair of them.
 It's about the same for all my customers who are using them.
 
 OregonFast SpeedTest
 
 
 Your current bandwidth reading is:
 
 15398.5 Kbps
 
 which means you can download at 1924.81 KB/sec. from our servers.
 
 ;)
 
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[WISPA] Automating Mikrotik Backups

2006-07-24 Thread KyWiFi LLC
Does Mikrotik have a method of backing up its settings
like is done with the StarOS StarUtil commands? If so,
what are the commands? I'm wanting to make sure we
automate this much needed task with http://www.ISPBuddy.com
which will allow automated nightly backups to our remote
storage facility.


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[WISPA] Field Techs Non-Standard Installations

2006-07-20 Thread KyWiFi LLC
We are starting to see more and more subscribers need custom
installations such as a vent pipe mount, aerial drop, trenching, etc.
How is everyone paying their sub-contractors when it comes to
non-standard installations? For instance, say you pay $75 to a
sub-contractor for a standard installation but when they arrive
at the job site, the subscriber needs a 10' ditch dug. If the
sub-contractor says he will dig the ditch for $25 do you just
tack this amount on to the subscriber's installation fee and then
pass it along to the sub-contractor or do you add say $10 - $20
to the amount the sub-contractor is going to charge you and then
bill the subscriber the inflated amount which would then have a
profit margin attached? Or, do you have the sub-contractor bill
the subscriber separately for digging the ditch or whatever else
they want/need done at their premises? In other words, do you
try to make a profit on the additional work performed by the
sub-contractor which falls outside a standard installation?


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Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo WDS capacity, Mikrotik - problems

2006-07-19 Thread KyWiFi LLC
-90 is not just bad, it's horrible. ;-)

It has been my experience that a signal of -75 or better
*should* allow for a reliable 11Mbps connection rate. I have
seen times when the subscriber had a -65 to -60 and they
would only associate at a rate of 1Mbps but after changing
channels, their association rate was able to negotiate at the
optimal rate of 11Mbps. We also have a subscriber with a
-89 and they have been able to sustain a constant 11Mbps
rate which blows my mind. They are one of our happiest
subscribers and since we have not noticed a degradation in
service/speed from the AP to which they are associated, we
have left them connected. I will be testing a 400mw 2.4GHz
CPE at their location in the near future. Right now, they have
a 18dBi CPE with a 24dBi grid and they are connected to
a 13.5dBi H-POL sector and 18dBi radio which is 7 miles
away. They use to have a -75 I think it was but the trees
around the halfway mark between the sector and them have
since then grown into their link's fresnel zone.

We service rural Central and Eastern Kentucky and I would
say our noise floor is around -95 to -90 in most areas. We
always use the largest antenna approved by the subscriber.
If we can get a -75 link with a 13dBi panel, we normally go
with a 19dBi panel so we can get the signal into -60's. Just
try to keep your signal level in the -75 to -55 range and you
*should* do well with 2.4GHz. I can't wait until the day when
we can deploy 5GHz CPE for the same price as our 2.4GHz
CPE. But, as time goes on, I'm sure 5GHz spectrum will
someday be used the same (if not more) than 2.4GHz and we
will all be looking for the next best piece of spectrum to utilize
for our PtMP links.


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- Original Message - 
From: Jason Hensley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 5:33 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo WDS capacity, Mikrotik - problems


Interference really isn't much of an issue here.  There's one other WISP and 
we work pretty closely together to stay out of each other's way.  We've 
analyzed the area and nothing else is out there but us and the typical home 
APs.

So -90 is that bad huh?  Guess I may need to rethink those two installs.


- Original Message - 
From: Chad Halsted [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 3:46 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Tranzeo WDS capacity, Mikrotik - problems


No personal experience on the X10, but from what I here, it will give
you nightmares.

Seems like I heard Marlon speak such wonderful things about the x10
before, eh Marlon?

-90 signal is never a good thing.  We won't do an install unless it's
-75 or better.  Sometimes even a -75 isn't strong enough to combat all
the interference we have in town.



-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Jason Hensley
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 1:36 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo WDS capacity, Mikrotik - problems

I've got a two AP WDS setup with Tranzeo TR-6000's with PacWireless 13db
omni's on each.  They are less than a mile apart.  Any idea how many
CPE's
 can run on each AP before it starts causing issues?  We're going to be
 replacing the WDS setup with an actual backhaul soon, but just haven't
 gotten it done yet.

 I'm having trouble with performance.  Works fine for awhile and then it
 seems to bog down, and then back to normal again.  I've got about 10
clients
 (all  Tranzeo gear) on each of the AP's.  I wouldn't think that this
would
 cause issues but I may be wrong.  Signal between the WDS connections is
 around the -65 mark so that's no problem.  I've got a couple of
marginal
 clients (running -90 or so) so I'm wondering if these could possibly be
 causing it. Everything is horizontal pol.

When the service completely drops out I can get to the AP's just fine
from
the client end, but can't get to the router (RB532).  I've switched out
cabling, switches, etc with no luck.  Have a new 532 on the way so I'm
going
to switch it out as well and see what happens, but anyone have any other

thoughts?

 Also, anyone have experience with an X10 camera shutting down their
network?

 Thanks!


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Re: [WISPA] WiSP info needed

2006-07-07 Thread KyWiFi LLC
Tom, what exactly are you wanting to automate between
your billing solution and technical backend?

- Shannon


- Original Message - 
From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WiSP info needed


ASP model accounting software is all good and fine if all you want to do is 
use the application. But what happens when you want to start automating and 
integrating the billing solution to your technical backend?

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: KyWiFi LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 9:38 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WiSP info needed


 It will be 100% web-based so you will not need to install anything
 as it will all reside on the ISPBuddy.com's servers. So, you'll be able
 to manage your ISP business from anywhere you have a computer and
 Internet access (dial-up or broadband, doesn't matter). The billing
 module will integrate with Authorize.net and LinkPoint to start and
 others will be added upon request and if feasible.

 - Shannon


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 From: Javier Arigita [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 9:16 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] WiSP info needed


 Hi Shannon,

 is your web solution meant to be installed in one server in our offices or
 is it a solution similar to fon (external billing and so on)?

 Thanks,

 Javier


 On 7/6/06, KyWiFi LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Javier,

 The web development company I own is creating a web-based
 business management system for ISP's. You can subscribe to the
 system's launch notification list at http://www.ISPBuddy.com  It
 is going to offer numerous features, including WISP monitor and
 billing processes and it will be affordable. I'm already using it to
 alert me when devices become unresponsive and it automatically
 logs in daily and backs up the settings for all of our access points
 so we have them readily available in the event a restore is needed.
 If there are special features you have in mind, contact me offlist
 and I'll see what we can do to accommodate your requests if the
 features aren't already planned.


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 - Original Message -
 From: Javier Arigita [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 4:39 AM
 Subject: [WISPA] WiSP info needed


 I plan to create a WiSP using Alvarion equipment in a rural area in 
 Spain.
 I
 want to offer data and in the future voice as well. Do you now any good
 WiSP
 monitor/billing software?, is it expensive?

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Re: [WISPA] WiSP info needed

2006-07-06 Thread KyWiFi LLC
Hi Javier,

The web development company I own is creating a web-based
business management system for ISP's. You can subscribe to the
system's launch notification list at http://www.ISPBuddy.com  It
is going to offer numerous features, including WISP monitor and
billing processes and it will be affordable. I'm already using it to
alert me when devices become unresponsive and it automatically
logs in daily and backs up the settings for all of our access points
so we have them readily available in the event a restore is needed.
If there are special features you have in mind, contact me offlist
and I'll see what we can do to accommodate your requests if the
features aren't already planned.


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- Original Message - 
From: Javier Arigita [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 4:39 AM
Subject: [WISPA] WiSP info needed


I plan to create a WiSP using Alvarion equipment in a rural area in Spain. I
want to offer data and in the future voice as well. Do you now any good WiSP
monitor/billing software?, is it expensive?

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Re: [WISPA] WiSP info needed

2006-07-06 Thread KyWiFi LLC
It will be 100% web-based so you will not need to install anything
as it will all reside on the ISPBuddy.com's servers. So, you'll be able
to manage your ISP business from anywhere you have a computer and
Internet access (dial-up or broadband, doesn't matter). The billing
module will integrate with Authorize.net and LinkPoint to start and
others will be added upon request and if feasible.

- Shannon


- Original Message - 
From: Javier Arigita [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WiSP info needed


Hi Shannon,

is your web solution meant to be installed in one server in our offices or
is it a solution similar to fon (external billing and so on)?

Thanks,

Javier


On 7/6/06, KyWiFi LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Javier,

 The web development company I own is creating a web-based
 business management system for ISP's. You can subscribe to the
 system's launch notification list at http://www.ISPBuddy.com  It
 is going to offer numerous features, including WISP monitor and
 billing processes and it will be affordable. I'm already using it to
 alert me when devices become unresponsive and it automatically
 logs in daily and backs up the settings for all of our access points
 so we have them readily available in the event a restore is needed.
 If there are special features you have in mind, contact me offlist
 and I'll see what we can do to accommodate your requests if the
 features aren't already planned.


 Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
 KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
 Your Hometown Broadband Provider
 http://www.KyWiFi.com
 Call Us Today: 859.274.4033
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 - Original Message -
 From: Javier Arigita [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 4:39 AM
 Subject: [WISPA] WiSP info needed


 I plan to create a WiSP using Alvarion equipment in a rural area in Spain.
 I
 want to offer data and in the future voice as well. Do you now any good
 WiSP
 monitor/billing software?, is it expensive?

 Thanks in advanced.
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Re: [WISPA] How do you market your WISP

2006-06-13 Thread KyWiFi LLC
Hi Lee,

We've had great success with 18 X 24 yard signs posted
at intersections: http://www.IncomeBuddy.com/ad.php?id=68at=71

I would also suggest making friends with your local real estate
developers so you can post 3' X 6' banners at the entrance to
their subdivisions: http://www.IncomeBuddy.com/ad.php?id=68at=72


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KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
Your Hometown Broadband Provider
http://www.KyWiFi.com
Call Us Today: 859.274.4033
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- No Phone Line Required for DSL
- FREE Activation  Equipment
- Affordable Upfront Pricing
- Locally Owned  Operated
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- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 11:29 AM
Subject: [WISPA] How do you market your WISP


Gentlemen;

I am in the final stages of design and have begun to guild my WISP.  I was 
wondering what 
the most effective methods were for marketing?

I was thinking of using the mail, possibly arranging a demo in a parking lot, 
flyers, and 
of course adding my company name to the lists on the internet.

Lee






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Re: [WISPA] looking for a device

2006-06-08 Thread KyWiFi LLC
Discontinued by Wisp-Router.com or all vendors? There's no
mention of this on http://www.pcengines.ch Where did you hear
this? I recall hearing that the chipset used on the current WRAP
platform has been discontinued but to my knowledge, there is a
replacement chipset available which will be used on future batches
of WRAP boards.


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- Original Message - 
From: jeffrey thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; WISPA General List 
wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] looking for a device


Fyi everyone, wrap boards have been discontinued


On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 12:45:00 -0500, Sam Tetherow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
 If you order it all from wisp-router they will assemble it for your so 
 you would get a die-cast case with the RB mounted the radios and 
 pigtails installed.  All you would need to do is set up the software end 
 of things, which could be done with a script once you have the initial 
 setup done.  One thing to note, I have not ordered 5Ghz pigtails from 
 wisp-router in quite sometime, but the last time I did order them, their 
 quality was questionable.
 
 I would bet if you went the WRAP/StarOS route wisp-router would do the 
 same.  No idea on other vendors or the WAR boards as I have never 
 ordered them.
 
 Sam Tetherow
 Sandhills Wireless
 
 Matt Liotta wrote:
 
  I am looking for a device I can buy that does all of this out of the 
  box. I don't want to build my own since I need 30-40 of them in the 
  next 30 days.
 
  -Matt
 
  Sam Tetherow wrote:
 
  Mikrotik on a routerboard 532 should do the trick although I haven't 
  messed with the VLAN stuff.
  I am not a StarOS user, but I would bet that a StarOS setup on either 
  a WRAP or WAR board would work
  as well.
 
 Sam Tetherow
 Sandhills Wireless
 
  Matt Liotta wrote:
 
  I am looking for a device with the following requirements:
 
  * Can backhaul at 11Mbps operating in the 5.2Ghz band
  * Can support VLANs
  * Can assign a VLAN to one Ethernet port
  * Powered by PoE (the standard is not required)
  * Can act as a 2.4Ghz Wi-Fi access point assigned to a different 
  VLAN than the Ethernet port
  * Everything in a single outdoor enclosure
 
  Any ideas?
 
  -Matt
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] gas prices

2006-05-11 Thread KyWiFi LLC
We use a rotary hammer drill with a special bit that is for
driving grounding rods and man does it make them slide
right in like a hot knife through butter. It will even drive them
through small rocks.


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- Original Message - 
From: JohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 5:59 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices


Yup - I can install an 8ft Grounding Rod in about 60seconds from start
to finish without using a hammer. Can be a little workout at times but
tis the easiest way I know how.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Rick Harnish
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:27 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices


Tom,

 You can't forget the grounding rod, and the big ass Hammer to hammer
it in.  

You don't need the big ass Hammer!  Just pour a little water on the
ground, push the rod in, pull it out, fill the hole with water, push it
in again.  Repeat this process until you get the rod in almost all the
way in and hammer it the last few inches.  Works like a charm.  And you
already have water bottles in stock :)

I never would have believed it until I saw it done!  The water softens
the ground and works as a lubricant.  Its really slick.

Respectfully,

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
260-307-4000 Cell
260-918-4340 VoIP
www.oibw.net
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  
 

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[WISPA] WISP For Sale with 100+ Subscribers

2006-05-09 Thread KyWiFi LLC
At this time, my partner and I would like to solicit inquiries for our
WISP for sale. We have 100+ fixed wireless subscribers on a routed
StarOS network consisting of 11 broadcast sites (4 additional sites
are under contract but not yet deployed with 10+ subscribers already
awaiting service from each). Company has zero debt and ultra-low
fixed operation costs. All CPE is owned by us and the majority of
subscribers are on auto-renewing 2 year contract terms. We are
asking 12x - 18x monthly revenue. Business is being sold due to
partners' limited time availability. Cash flow positive with a bright
future for growth. 75% of new customers presently come from
word of mouth referrals. Very little advertising has been done to
date as we've focused on network buildout more so than customer
acquisition.

Great opportunity for anyone looking to acquire or start a WISP.
Business can be managed remotely and 30 days of training are included.
90% of the subscribers pay via debit/credit card, billing/invoicing takes
less than 1 hour per month. On average, the company receives 3 - 5
support inquires per week which, along with all sales inquiries, are
handled by a sub-contractor. The company has ZERO employees!
All site surveys, installations, service calls, subscriber and tower
maintenance work is handled via a sub-contractor with set pricing.

Documented, consistent growth rate with excellent service and support
reputation. Approx. 20 - 30 VoIP subscriber accounts are also included
in the sale. The wireless network presently utilizes unlicensed spectrum in
the 2.4GHz and 5GHz frequencies.

Please contact me offlist for additional details and NDA if interested. My
personal e-mail address is shannon at kywifi.com


Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
Your Hometown Broadband Provider
http://www.KyWiFi.com
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Re: [WISPA] I need a cheap watchdog/reboot thingy

2006-05-09 Thread KyWiFi LLC
Here's the version I think you are looking for John:
http://tinyurl.com/z7ovs  I purchased one of these a
while back but haven't had the time to play with it yet.
It's like $200 off right now while they still have stock
so you better go grab one if this is what you are looking
for.


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- Original Message - 
From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:04 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] I need a cheap watchdog/reboot thingy


HI,

We have used many of these, but they aren't sub-$100...

http://www.digital-loggers.com/EPC.html

Travis
Microserv

J. Vogel wrote:

I seem to recall that someone posted a link to a sub-$100 ping
watchdog/reboot
unit on one of these lists recently, but I cannot locate the message I
am thinking
I saw. I need a simple device to power-cycle an access point radio or
two when
pings to the network default gateway fail.

Can anybody point me to such a thing? Thanks!

John Vogel
  

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[WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband

2006-04-04 Thread KyWiFi LLC
I'm noticing more and more WISP's selling their wireless
broadband service as DSL or Wireless DSL. I know
that 75% of the people who call our sales number have
a difficult time understanding what Wireless Broadband is.
They already know what DSL is and that is what the majority
of them ask for so I would be interested in hearing everyone's
opinions on the pros and cons of a WISP labeling their
wireless broadband service as DSL, wDSL or Wireless DSL
instead of Fixed Wireless, WiFI or Wireless Broadband.

If the masses are more familiar with the term DSL then I
think we would generate more sales leads by advertising
our (WISPs') broadband as DSL instead of Wireless
Broadband. I'm sure the local telco would just love to see
all of us selling DSL. Are there any legalities to this? Does
wireless broadband qualify as DSL or a form of DSL in the
eyes of the law? Is it legal for a WISP to sell their wireless
broadband service as DSL?


Sincerely,
Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
http://www.KyWiFi.com
http://www.KyWiFiVoice.com
Phone: 859.274.4033
A Broadband Phone  Internet Provider

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Re: [WISPA] USF fund reform

2006-03-29 Thread KyWiFi LLC
Generally speaking no. However, if the 2 customers are
commercial customers paying a few hundred or a few
thousand dollars per month, then yes, if the numbers work
out to our benefit. Cost is what makes or breaks a deal so
everything has to be analyzed properly. In most cases, a
$400 telephone pole deployment will suffice in place of a
tower. Our company has recently started to deploy roof top
repeaters to pick up additional customers. Under our business
model, we can normally justify the cost of the repeater even
if we are just picking up 1 additional residential customer. In
most cases, that 1 customer is willing to cover part or all of
the cost of the roof top repeater and its installation on a
neighbor's home/barn/silo.

What are the current requirements in order for a telco
to receive USF money? Are they required to provide service
to a specific % of the population in the areas where they receive
USF money? A good friend of mine was once quoted $11,000
by the local telco to run a phone line to his home (he lives a half
mile or so off his road in a rural area). I would think that the
telco must provide service to 100% of the population in the areas
for which they receive the USF money but this is evidently not
how it is structured. Also, how is the USF money currently
shared amongst multiple telcos in the same area/city?

How much USF money is there? What determines the amount
each telco receives?

-Shannon


- Original Message - 
From: John J. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 12:47 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] USF fund reform


Are you willing to put up a tower to serve 2 customers? Only if you think you 
can get your 
money back.

John


-Original Message-
From: KyWiFi LLC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 01:11 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] USF fund reform

I agree, I would think that 12 months is plenty long enough,
definitely not more than 36 months. Take our company for
example, we deployed 7 broadcast sites in our first 12 months
of operation and we were profitable by month number 8 or 9
and this was WITHOUT any free money. If a company in
this line of work cannot achieve a profit in their first year or
two of operation, I don't see them being around long term.


Sincerely,
Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
http://www.KyWiFi.com
http://www.KyWiFiVoice.com
Phone: 859.274.4033
A Broadband Phone  Internet Provider

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- Original Message - 
From: Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] USF fund reform


10 to 20 year time line? I would like to see 1 to 5 years. I do not see
how a network can not be profitable
in that time frame with free monies.

Jeromie

Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

 Hi All,

 Here's what WISPA is prepared to submit to the commerce committee.
 Thought you guys would like a peek at it first.



 WISPA USF Reform Position Paper



WISPA is a the WISP industry's only industry owned and
 operated trade association.  We're a 501c6 corporation with a 7
 person, membership elected board.



The goals for USF should be clarified.  Are laptops for
 kids part of the program goals?  Was it the original intent that USF
 exclude small local entrepreneurs and give preferential treatment to
 the incumbent? As USF changes, do the changes have a clear goal?  Is
 this just a mechanism to try to put more funds into the program
 otherwise leave it as is?  Or does Congress want to see substantial
 changes in the program that do more to foster rather than stifle
 innovation?



WISPA believes that market forces should mostly be left to
 their own.  Without government tweaking.  USF should be canceled
 completely.  If a real need for outside funding in regions or small
 pockets turns out to be needed, address those issues on a case by case
 basis.  At the very least the USF program needs major reform as its
 cost based fee structure encourages abuse.



An example of artificially high costs would be in Odessa,
 Washington.  In the early 2000 time frame the local telco replaced an
 8 T-1 microwave link with a fiber optic line at a cost (or so we've
 been told) of $600,000.  Even at the time, the cost of a microwave
 replacement with more capacity would have been half or less.  This is
 for a town of 1000 that's not on the way to anywhere.  The telco is
 now in the process of adding more fiber to complete a fiber loop to
 other areas.  This next 30 mile stretch is through many solid rock
 canyons and the costs are expected to be even higher.



This same telco has

Re: [WISPA] Hosted PBX

2006-03-28 Thread KyWiFi LLC
Hi Chris,

We have a 5-line hosted PBX system from Nuvio and it has
worked flawlessly since day one. You can do so many kewl
things nowadays with a hosted PBX system that I can't see any
reasons for going with a non-hosted PBX system instead of a
hosted PBX.

If you would like to earn a commission from selling hosted
PBX systems, contact me offlist.


Sincerely,
Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
http://www.KyWiFi.com
http://www.KyWiFiVoice.com
Phone: 859.274.4033
A Broadband Phone  Internet Provider

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- Original Message - 
From: chris cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 12:49 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Hosted PBX




Ive got a client that has a need for a 90 seat PBX system. E-911 isnt
much of an issue as these are all just inter-office lines.  Ive looked
at Nuvio's hosted PBX but haven't actually put one to use.  Any pointers
good/bad on Hosted PBX systems?

Thanks,
Chris 
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Re: [WISPA] RE: Solectek Skyway 7000 -- Follow Up

2006-03-27 Thread KyWiFi LLC
That's an Atheros chipset on the PCB but what type of
PCB is it? The model # in the pics looks like 8WAPD15_5A1
but Google.com doesn't turn anything up on it. Looks like a
homebrew solution IMO.

-Shannon


- Original Message - 
From: Matt Glaves [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 10:46 PM
Subject: [WISPA] RE: Solectek Skyway 7000 -- Follow Up


Hey Folks,

 

Last month I posted to the list asking about low cost 5Ghz bridges and a
few folks responded that I should check out Airaya.  I decided to give
them a try based on some really excellent discounts from one of our
vendors.  In short, I hate them :-)  If you're interested in why, feel
free to hit me off list..

 

We bought two complete links and before installing the first one I
cracked it open and took a picture of its high tech innards to share
with this list.  I hope this helps those looking at sub $3k PTP bridges.


 

http://www.pinn.net/~glaves/DSCN0714.JPG

http://www.pinn.net/~glaves/DSCN0712.JPG

 

thanks,

matt

 

 

 

 

  _  

From: Matt Glaves 
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 9:50 PM
To: 'wireless@wispa.org'
Subject: Solectek Skyway 7000

 

I have never used the Solectek equipment and am looking at either trying
their Skyway 7101 or the Trango Atlas for some short building to
building links.  I have seen enough favorable posts about the Atlas to
know plenty of you are using it successfully - although I sure wish I
could get one of their sales folks to return a phone call.  Leave a
message about buying 250 CPEs and no one calls back  Anyway :-)

 

I would like to get opinions on the Skyway 7000.  This would be for very
short .5 mile links between buildings.  We would normally use
Terabeam/Proxim systems but are looking for alternatives with similar
capabilities and 20-40% lower cost.  Any info/opinions on reliability
and real world throughput would be great.

 

Thanks,

Matt

 







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Re: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding

2006-03-26 Thread KyWiFi LLC
What do you ground the shield to? We are needing to
ground the mounting arm. Plus, I would think that it would
be hard to attach the shield to a ground rod plus this would
require that the Cat5 be cut outside which is something we
are wanting to prevent. If we had a Cat5 with an attached
ground wire then it would be nice to cut the ground wire
and attach both of the cut ends to the ground rod then the
outside end would be attached to the mounting arm and the
inside end could be attached to a Cat5 surge protector.


Sincerely,
Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
http://www.KyWiFi.com
http://www.KyWiFiVoice.com
Phone: 859.274.4033
A Broadband Phone  Internet Provider

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No Taxes, No Regulatory Fees, No Hassles

FREE Site Survey: http://www.KyWiFi.com
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- Original Message - 
From: Rick Harnish [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 10:53 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding


Can't you just use shielded Cat5E cable to do this.  We use it on all tower
installs but not for CPE's.  

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
260-307-4000 Cell
www.oibw.net
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Bushard, Jr
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 10:19 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding

I have been looking for Shielded Cat5e with a ground wire attached for a
long time also. I was thinking of calling belden and asking them what it
would take to make it.

Mike Bushard, Jr
Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of KyWiFi LLC
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 8:23 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding

I know this is something every WISP should be interested in
using. It would be great to have an outdoor rated Cat5 cable
with an attached 10awg. A reasonable price IMO for a 1000'
spool would be $200 - $250. Keep us posted if you run across
any. The smallest ground I would be comfortable using is 12awg
and we'll want to sure it is braided so the cable is not stiff.

While on this subject, is a 4' long 3/8 diameter copper ground
rod sufficient for a CPE installation? SkyWalker sells these for
less than a buck each in 100 qty. and they include a ground clamp
to attach the wire. I'm thinking about buying a 100 of them. They
also have a decent price on their 10 awg ground wire, 500' spool
for $59 but I don't know if it is solid or braided.


Sincerely,
Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
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- Original Message - 
From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 9:07 PM
Subject: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding


Ok, I am searching for cat5 with ground wire attached.

How well do you think a coax would work to ground the CPE? 
http://www.computercablestore.com/detail.aspx?ID=2098

It's not like I am trying to protect it from lightning (good luck)  I 
just want somewhere for the static to go.  I could break off the coax at 
the entrance to the house and bang a 4 ft ground rod in and call it 
good.  Thoughts?

Anyone know a cable maker who could attach a ground wire?
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Re: [WISPA] Water Tower Colocation

2006-03-13 Thread KyWiFi LLC
We live in a town of 6,000 people and there are
only 20,000 in the county. The city water company
makes $3000+ per month from one of their water
tanks. They charge $1000 - $1500 per month per
tenant. The tank is only 100' tall so I don't know
why the cell companies just don't erect their own
tower in the area, there is a lot of land here for
sale at prices in the $3k - $10k per acre range.

Most water companies however will swap out
free broadband and free installation for free use
of their water tanks. Others are happy to receive
$50 - $100 per month per water tank. I think what
it really comes down to is who you are and who you
know when dealing with water companies.


Sincerely,
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- Original Message - 
From: Cliff Leboeuf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 5:10 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Water Tower Colocation


Jason,

The $1,000 per month was probably set by some cellular company years
ago. The cell provider probably has its own tower now, but the $1,000
number remains in the water tower owners head and is probably
'pie-in-the-sky,' especially now.

I have also located on billboards here...

Where there's a will...there's a way!

- Cliff


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jason Hensley
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 4:00 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water Tower Colocation

Thanks Cliff (and everyone else).

The local folks here have been told by someone they should not take less

than $1000 per month for someone to locate on their tower.  Needless to
say 
that puts a pretty big hit in the pocket book, and makes ROI pretty much

non-existent for small-town WISP's like myself (I'm in a town of rolling

hills and lots of big thick oak trees, population around 12,000).  So,
I'm 
working trying to find comparable figures for what others are paying and

have worked out, etc, just to show that most are not paying anywhere
near 
the $1000 per month for a water tower.  Other towers, yes, maybe, but
not 
water towers - at least not that I have found.






- Original Message - 
From: Cliff Leboeuf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 3:25 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Water Tower Colocation


Jason,

Each deal is different. I had tried unsuccessfully to get access to the
water towers in my area for years.

Than, one day, the realized that I could offer them something...two way
IP communication to their equipment, and they could eliminate the 1FB's
and modem they were currently using.

I not charge them $30 per month for their 42 locations, and have rights
to all of their towers for AP's...Go figure!

- Cliff




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 From: Jason Hensley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 12:25 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] Water Tower Colocation


 I'm looking for comparisons again on water tower colocation.  Have
 another area I'm trying to go into.  Looking for what you're paying,
if
 anything, what you're trading out (speed, number of buildings /
 connections, etc), etc etc.

 Specifically looking for folks in towns of under 20,000, but anything

 will help.

 Thanks a lot in advance!!!
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Re: [WISPA] Teletronics Sectors

2006-03-07 Thread KyWiFi LLC
How much can this model be purchased for? It looks like
a good high gain H-POL sector IMO. We've been quite
pleased with SuperPass sectors but their gain is only 13.5dBi
for a 120 Degree H-POL.


Sincerely,
Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
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http://www.KyWiFiVoice.com
Phone: 859.274.4033
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- Original Message - 
From: Julius Igugu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 9:26 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Teletronics Sectors


http://www.teletronics.com/tant24sector19dbi.html#specs
- Original Message - 
From: Jason Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 11:24 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Teletronics Sectors


 Anyone using the 19 dbi Hz Pol 120 deg sector from Teletronics, p/n 
 15-124, in a 3 antenna array?  Anyone know what the front to back ratio 
 is on one of these?  How about weatherability?
 
 Jason Wallace
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Re: [WISPA] VoIP/PBX Gateway appliance

2006-03-06 Thread KyWiFi LLC
Hi Scriv,

We tried Lingo but could not get it to work reliably and
their voice quality was horrible when it did work. Their
support is overseas so expect to be treated like a number
instead of a person. LNP's are hard to get approved and
people calling our ported number often got a busy signal
when we were not on the phone. Even if we were on the
phone, they should not have received a busy signal because
we their service is suppose to include call waiting. During
the first week or two after our number was ported, some
callers received a This number has been disconnected
message when they called us. My advice is to turn and run.


Sincerely,
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KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
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- Original Message - 
From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP/PBX Gateway appliance


Primus tells me they are more than a VOIP company and that they do make 
money. They impressed me in my dealings with them. Can you share more 
about your information about Primus? I have a big interest in knowing 
anything I can about them right now.
Thanks,
Scriv


Peter R. wrote:

 You haven't seen it yet, because Lingo is not profitable yet.
 Primus owns Lingo and Primus is basically an International VOIP company.

 Like so many VOIP Providers, they are still trying to figure out how 
 to make a profit.

 Delta3 (which is the backend for VZ's VoiceWing) made $9.1M in revenue 
 in 4Q05 and just $22k in income.

 Vonage has a customer acquisition cost that is 20 times their MRC.

 Regards,

 Peter


 Jonathan Schmidt wrote:

 I've been personally delighted with two years of Lingo giving me
 unlimited USA/Canada/EUROPE calling on 7 lines each for $19.95/month
 and an unusually rich set of features (like e-mailing me compressed WAV
 files of all incoming voicemails, etc.).
  
 Now, that's retail w/box and support.
  
 I've taken the box on trips and routed it through my laptop Ethernet 
 while
 the laptop is on a V.32 dialup and it works but sounds kind of like a 
 cell
 phone but having my local number with me in Europe and having unlimited
 free calls throughout Europe from Europe or Eastern Europe for ZERO
 additional cost is kinda cool.
  
 It's SIP but they keep promising a soft phone for the line, like 
 Vonaga, but
 haven't seen it yet.
  
 . . . j o n a t h a n


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Re: [WISPA] 5.8ghz low power distance limitations

2006-02-21 Thread KyWiFi LLC
Blair,

Where are you seeing the -62 reported? StarOS? Mikrotik?

According to my calcs, your link below is a perfect link. The
link calculator I use estimates your loss at each side to be 2dBm.


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From: Blair Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.8ghz low power distance limitations


I have an 8 mile link with CM9 cards (17db) and 27db grids. This link
has clear LoS.

I get -62 sig strength at each end

YMMV

Kurt Fankhauser wrote:

 How much range can I expect to get with a 802.11a setup with 13db
 radio’s and 24db panel antennas? The reason I am asking is because I
 am thinking about using a pair of Tranzeo TR-5a-24f for a 5 mile link
 but I am skeptical about the low power.

 Kurt Fankhauser

 WAVELINC

 114 S. Walnut St.

 Bucyrus, OH 44820

 419-562-6405

 www.wavelinc.com

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Re: [WISPA] Use of WISPA logo

2006-02-20 Thread KyWiFi LLC
I just joined the WISPA list this past week to see what it's
all about. I don't know much about WISPA at this point
so that's why I'm here. Is there a page somewhere on the
WISPA web site that lists all members? I would be interested
in seeing who are members. We are a member of KYISPA
(Kentucky Association of ISP's) and several of the member
ISP's are also deploying wireless but I haven't heard any of
them mention WISPA. At our next monthly meeting, I plan
on getting their input to see if any of them are members. I'm
not a big fan of joining non-local organizations but WISPA
looks like a good group to be associated with so that's why
I'm giving it a look.


Sincerely,
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- Original Message - 
From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Use of WISPA logo


I understand the problem.  Pony up the $250 bucks or whatever and help
us get some spectrum.  The FCC only listens if we have $$, so pony it
up!  Join TODAY!

KyWiFi LLC wrote:

We aren't using the WISPA logo cause we aren't members
of WISPA. The tower image was actually designed by a local
vinyl/sign shop, I think they got it from a clip art CD, not sure.
It does resemble the tower image used in the WISPA logo so
maybe whoever designed the WISPA logo got it from the
same or similar clip art gallery or CD?


Sincerely,
Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
http://www.KyWiFi.com
http://www.KyWiFiVoice.com
Phone: 859.274.4033
A Broadband Phone  Internet Provider

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- Original Message - 
From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Use of WISPA logo


Not sure about the logo, my guess is, no.  Has to be the whole wispa logo, not 
just part
of it.

I know Bob (if it's the same Bob Smith), he's a good guy.

Marlon
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  - Original Message - 
  From: JohnnyO
  To: wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 11:18 PM
  Subject: [WISPA] Use of WISPA logo


  Are we all able to use the WISPA logo like this ?
http://www.kywifi.com/images/vptower/CIMG5548.jpg

  Also - came across this post on tower talk , figured we all may be able to 
 learn a
little bit about house cleaning from this.

  Who is Bob Smith ?

  *Bob Smith Wrote*

  HI All,

  I'm a wireless network consultant in my 'other life' and thought you
  all might get
  a real charge out of seeing what some people call a 'commercial tower 
 install'

  The tower in the pictures is used by a TV translator system , but a new WISP
  in Ky. is thinking of putting up a system on the tower also.

  He is experiencing a whole lot of electrical noise when he mounts his 
 antennas
  on the tower, but he can hold them in his hand, not mounted, and the noise
  goes away.  So now he's thinking of wrapping the mounts with electrical tape 
 to
  insulate them from the tower and install his equipment.  (Good
  electrical practice?)

  My comment to him was tie a cable to his bumper and to the tower and
  drive away from the tower, this way he would be doing both the tower owner 
 and
  himself a favor.   No kidding aside, as you can see in the pictures
  (#13 - #27)
  the tower is a mess.

  http://www.kywifi.com/images/vptower/index.php

  Gawd, ham's get hassled in California for a 30' tower, and in Ky. you can 
 just
  put of anything, anyway and use it  ,, Go figure.

  Bob Smith
  NA6T



  Bob Smith
  A.R.S NA6T
  ARRL Life Member
  Fort Bragg, California   95437

  On The Air-Conditioned Mendocino Coast, In REAL Northern California
  No trees were destroyed in the sending of this message.
  However, a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.





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