[WISPA] Layer 3 routing
I have setup a wireless network and setup up on a separate subnet per customer request. The only device the customer had to do routing is a Netgear GSM7324 Layer 3 switch. The routing is working for TCP and UDp packets but one application they use uses Multicasting. The multicast packets are not passing across the Layer 3 switch. Best I can tell I have multicasting setup on the switch but documentation is scarce. Anyone try this before? Good or Bad? Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue
Curious if other have seen issue with bad Ethernet ports on NS2's. I have a customer with a strange setup and he has blown the Ethernet port on 3 NS2's so far. Setup is a PS2/Client to the Internet on a 50ft mast on a hillside, Ethernet runs 150ft down a hill to power and is plugged into a NS2 in AP mode transmitting down the hill to the house where there is another NS2 as a client to the NS2 on the hill. The issue is with the AP/NS2 up the hill keeps blowing the Ethernet port. It is on a 10ft Ethernet cable and the LAN ports of the two POE's (NS2/AP and PS2/Client to the Internet) are connected together with a crossover. Any thoughts on why just this one radio would blow the ether port? Mark McElvy WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] FW: Keya Paha Co
This person is interested in wireless if anyone can help Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: cheryl evenson [mailto:ckeven...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 10:07 AM To: Mark McElvy Subject: Keya Paha Co Nebraska, 30 miles east off Highway 12. Then south and east. The middle of nowhere. For some reason some newspaper articles had led us to believe that internet via satelite was a real thing in the US for rural folks. Thanks for your response. Calle No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.830 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2998 - Release Date: 07/14/10 01:36:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue
Yes powered up and working fine from wireless side, no link on Ethernet Mark McElvy -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 4:14 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue Is the unit still powering up from the POE ?? And you just can't talk to it? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 5:11 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue Curious if other have seen issue with bad Ethernet ports on NS2's. I have a customer with a strange setup and he has blown the Ethernet port on 3 NS2's so far. Setup is a PS2/Client to the Internet on a 50ft mast on a hillside, Ethernet runs 150ft down a hill to power and is plugged into a NS2 in AP mode transmitting down the hill to the house where there is another NS2 as a client to the NS2 on the hill. The issue is with the AP/NS2 up the hill keeps blowing the Ethernet port. It is on a 10ft Ethernet cable and the LAN ports of the two POE's (NS2/AP and PS2/Client to the Internet) are connected together with a crossover. Any thoughts on why just this one radio would blow the ether port? Mark McElvy No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.830 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2998 - Release Date: 07/14/10 01:36:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Filing a Response
I am finding the list of applications but not where to protest -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brian Webster Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 3:51 PM To: spie...@avolve.net; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Filing a Response That is correct but as I understand it you have to manually draw your coverage area in their mapping tool for each application you would be protesting. Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Stuart Pierce Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 5:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Filing a Reponse broadbandusa.gov I suppose you go look at the list of Public Notices for a state and check each ones and click on the action button and then click on view communities. See if any are in your county/service area and the list button out the right gives pico more information. Then if something overlaps that you have service in, click at the bottom File a Response. Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2883 - Release Date: 05/19/10 01:26:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Filing a Response
I am apparently not on the right site -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Stuart Pierce Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 10:13 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Filing a Response Bottom button, File a Response -- Original Message -- From: Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 20:57:57 -0500 I am finding the list of applications but not where to protest -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brian Webster Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 3:51 PM To: spie...@avolve.net; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Filing a Response That is correct but as I understand it you have to manually draw your coverage area in their mapping tool for each application you would be protesting. Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Stuart Pierce Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 5:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Filing a Reponse broadbandusa.gov I suppose you go look at the list of Public Notices for a state and check each ones and click on the action button and then click on view communities. See if any are in your county/service area and the list button out the right gives pico more information. Then if something overlaps that you have service in, click at the bottom File a Response. Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2883 - Release Date: 05/19/10 01:26:00 --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2883 - Release Date: 05/19/10 01:26:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Sector Tilt angle
Ok, dumb question time. How does electrical downtilt work on an omni? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 9:50 PM To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Sector Tilt angle Electrical down tilt helps for that kind of installation. On 3/30/10, Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com wrote: As a rule of thumb, as the dB gets higher(or smaller in negative speak) in an antenna, the beam width of the opposing polarity of the antenna gets smaller, and thus harder to work with. As an example, I have used 15dB Omni's in 2.4Ghz(I'll leave the brand unannounced). I first put them about 60 feet in the air and found that I could not get a good usable signal unless I was about 2 miles or so from the tower. I dropped them to 20 - 25 feet and picked up clients within .25 miles out to a couple of miles. The horizontal beam width on the Omni was so small, I was way overshooting my intended target. Lesson learned was to always look at both vert and horiz beam width, and lesson learned on the 15dB Omni is to only use in trailer parks, very small subdivisions, and RV parks... and ... to not mount it above 30 feet high. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:41:21 -0400 Well, I've been setting up a service contract with my friends on planet Wispalon so I need to find the proper tilt angle to beam the signal into space. :) Yeah, I've been mindful to stay off the horizon, seems wasteful in a big way. I'm not a trig scholar so I use basic tilt angle calculators which have never failed me but these things have me upside down. Tower height, distance desired and all are good to have but I was really interested in others experiences with them and how they have been able to get their angles. Again, the smaller, lower gain sectors have been right on the money but I wasn't aware (ignorant) that these high gain units would give me a smaller slice to work with. On the advice of another member I have been trying one AP with 4 120 degree 19dbi sectors used as 90's. Signal is great where we can see it, just needed a good fix for not having to do the 2 man show all over the county. (With everyone in a pickup truck stopping to ask why we're by the road with an antenna) Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Lawrence E. Bakst Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 5:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Sector Tilt angle Technically speaking you're wrong. The highest gain area of a sector antenna is the center point between the horizontal and vertical spreads. If you don't downtilt you are sending the strongest part of the signal parallel to the horizon. Why would you ever want to do that? The whole reason you downtilt is to get the strongest signal pointed to the area you want. Figuring this out takes some basic trig calcs using the tangent function. No one has asked the most important questions you need to know when calculating downtilt: 1. How high up is the sector antenna? 2. How far out or in what range near to far do you want the sweet spot? 3. How close in to the tower do you need service? #2 and #3 can conflict with each other and you may have to make a tradeoff. leb At 2:22 PM -0400 3/29/10, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: . Technically speaking.. if you are not concerned about dealing with 'near' customers less than 1 or 2 miles... then you can pretty much leave the sectors at '0' tilt.. and you have coverage to the horizon The built-in electrical down-tilt typically throws folks off.. only becomes a factor if you are needing to down tilt for near customers.. Faisal. On 3/29/2010 1:36 PM, Robert West wrote: I'm having a heck of a time with the large UBNT sectors getting the tilt angle to jive. With the smaller sectors, they behave perfectly and go right where the calculations say they will however, with the larger ones, nothing I do other than have someone 10 miles out with a CPE check levels while I tilt up and down seems to be good. I REALLY don't want to have to do that with all of them... Anyone having any success or insight with the proper tilt of these things? Using the 120 degree 5GHz flavors. Thanks! Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. 740-335-7020 Logo5 -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Sector Tilt angle
So its just something that is there with no adjustment? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 7:45 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Sector Tilt angle It projects a cone instead of a disc. Greg On Mar 31, 2010, at 7:56 AM, Mark McElvy wrote: Ok, dumb question time. How does electrical downtilt work on an omni? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 9:50 PM To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Sector Tilt angle Electrical down tilt helps for that kind of installation. On 3/30/10, Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com wrote: As a rule of thumb, as the dB gets higher(or smaller in negative speak) in an antenna, the beam width of the opposing polarity of the antenna gets smaller, and thus harder to work with. As an example, I have used 15dB Omni's in 2.4Ghz(I'll leave the brand unannounced). I first put them about 60 feet in the air and found that I could not get a good usable signal unless I was about 2 miles or so from the tower. I dropped them to 20 - 25 feet and picked up clients within .25 miles out to a couple of miles. The horizontal beam width on the Omni was so small, I was way overshooting my intended target. Lesson learned was to always look at both vert and horiz beam width, and lesson learned on the 15dB Omni is to only use in trailer parks, very small subdivisions, and RV parks... and ... to not mount it above 30 feet high. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:41:21 -0400 Well, I've been setting up a service contract with my friends on planet Wispalon so I need to find the proper tilt angle to beam the signal into space. :) Yeah, I've been mindful to stay off the horizon, seems wasteful in a big way. I'm not a trig scholar so I use basic tilt angle calculators which have never failed me but these things have me upside down. Tower height, distance desired and all are good to have but I was really interested in others experiences with them and how they have been able to get their angles. Again, the smaller, lower gain sectors have been right on the money but I wasn't aware (ignorant) that these high gain units would give me a smaller slice to work with. On the advice of another member I have been trying one AP with 4 120 degree 19dbi sectors used as 90's. Signal is great where we can see it, just needed a good fix for not having to do the 2 man show all over the county. (With everyone in a pickup truck stopping to ask why we're by the road with an antenna) Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Lawrence E. Bakst Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 5:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Sector Tilt angle Technically speaking you're wrong. The highest gain area of a sector antenna is the center point between the horizontal and vertical spreads. If you don't downtilt you are sending the strongest part of the signal parallel to the horizon. Why would you ever want to do that? The whole reason you downtilt is to get the strongest signal pointed to the area you want. Figuring this out takes some basic trig calcs using the tangent function. No one has asked the most important questions you need to know when calculating downtilt: 1. How high up is the sector antenna? 2. How far out or in what range near to far do you want the sweet spot? 3. How close in to the tower do you need service? #2 and #3 can conflict with each other and you may have to make a tradeoff. leb At 2:22 PM -0400 3/29/10, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: . Technically speaking.. if you are not concerned about dealing with 'near' customers less than 1 or 2 miles... then you can pretty much leave the sectors at '0' tilt.. and you have coverage to the horizon The built-in electrical down-tilt typically throws folks off.. only becomes a factor if you are needing to down tilt for near customers.. Faisal. On 3/29/2010 1:36 PM, Robert West wrote: I'm having a heck of a time with the large UBNT sectors getting the tilt angle to jive. With the smaller sectors, they behave perfectly and go right where the calculations say they will however, with the larger ones, nothing I do other than have someone 10 miles out with a CPE check levels while I tilt up and down seems to be good. I REALLY don't want to have to do that with all of them... Anyone having any success or insight with the proper tilt of these things? Using the 120 degree 5GHz flavors
[WISPA] AP Weirdness
I am still having troubles with an AP. One of three on a water tower, MT 3.30, RB532A/WLM54G30-ESD, 802.11B/20 and PPPoE via Radius. What seems to be happening, subs are staying associated but losing PPPoE authentication. You see authentication request over and over again. Radius on the AP shows no attempts or failures. It eventually authenticates the PPPoE sessions after a period o time under 30 minutes. I am also seeing TX/RX drops and errors on the RB532 ethernet interface. Customers are complaining of speed issues. Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Ethernet transmit errors
I have a tower running 3x120 sectors, MT AP's RB532's. Ethernet down tower to a switch. I noticed that on one of the RB532's I have 861 TX errors and 861 TX drops in 5 days of uptime. I replaced this AP 5 days ago and the previous board showed the same errors. I have moved the Ethernet cable to a different port on the switch. Is it possible I have a bad Ethernet cable? Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Poor performing customer
I have a customer I set up a couple of months ago, UBNT PS2 running in B, 30ft mast on roof. It has been running fine till last week. Customer end is showing -75 with -85 noise, the noise seems weird since the are in the middle of nowhere and the cpe can only see my tower and their own router. Tower end see's them @-85 with -99 noise. I have a feeling its interference/noise but do not have a Spectrum analyzer to confirm. Did realize the there is a direct line from client to my tower to competitors tower. Client to my tower 6 miles and another 6 miles to competitors tower. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Moisture Abatement Techniques
I use a small tiewrap around the end to prevent that from happening. Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 6:36 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Moisture Abatement Techniques Does't the glue on the Super-33 start to fail with time and you end up with the end of the tape coming loose and flapping in the wind? That's why I like to finish with the rubber tape. Greg On Mar 2, 2010, at 12:22 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: YES!!! This is how I seal connections, has never failed yet! 1. Tape a layer of Super-33 from the bottom up. Just one layer. 2. Put on a layer of the rubber tape from the bottom up. Just one layer. 3. Tape another layer up with the Super-33 again. From the bottom up as well. Just one layer. This system has worked great for 5 years and all my connections have always been bone dry when taken apart with a utility knife. One thing I can tell you is it better be bone dry when you put this together cause if its not then you just trapped the water in cause nothing is getting in or out. I get the rubber tape at True Value hardware stores. Its less then $4 and does not leave a sticky mess when removed. It has a blue layer between itself on the role so the rubber does not stick together. Its always in the same area as the electrical tape and electrical supplies. I guess its used widely by electricians. I showed a Two Way Radio technician that has 30+ years experience in RF my method and he was very impressed. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 7:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Moisture Abatement Techniques Does anyone like the pure rubber self vulcanizing tape over the vinyl tape? I like how that doesn't come loose over time. Greg On Mar 1, 2010, at 1:29 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote: NS2's and other outdoor radios can take care of themselves. I add a little seal around the cable exit on the bottom of the cover. The bullets make me a little nervous - I don't trust the grommet that comes with them - a little sealer on the back at the cable exit is a good idea. This is how I was taught for RF connectors 3 layer process: Layer 1 - 3M Super33 or Super88 electrical tape over the entire connection extending 2 past the shrink wrap at both ends Layer 2 - 3M Mastic 2229 over the electrical tape - squeeze repeatedly to conform all of the seams to one contiguous seal Layer 3 - 3M Super33 or Super88 over the Mastic - this is to keep the mastic in place and for UV protection http://picasaweb.google.com/aircloud.com/AntennaCoaxSeal# -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Israel Lopez-LISTS Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 9:46 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Moisture Abatement Techniques Hey All, So how do you guys avoid getting water/moisture in your gear? I'm going to be standing up a 9 end-point network, with some Ubiquiti (Bullet2, Nanostation) gear, Directional H-Pol Omni antennas, Polyphasers, Ethernet Lightning Arrestors, etc,. I'm not going to be able to travel to the site again in at least a year; its a rainy part of the world, so I'd like to prevent any damage to the gear as much as possible. Anything I should do to prevent moisture from getting into the gear? Or other protective measures... Teflon on the coax connectors, Electrical Tape on the Edges of the gear? If there was a place I could see some pictures of the implementations that would be good too. -Israel WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
Re: [WISPA] Reflector grid or dish for NS2/NS2L
www.mowinet.com From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 6:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Reflector grid or dish for NS2/NS2L I am looking for reflectors that can be used with the NS2 or NS2L to increase gain and directionality. Has anyone seen or heard of something like this? It seems to me to be an obvious add-on to the radios and a much better way to get more gain than using the external antenna port on the NS2. I expect it would be less expensive than grid and pigtail as well. Blair No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2646 - Release Date: 02/15/10 01:35:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] multiple networks on one cable...
I have Dell managed switches. A 24 and 48 port 10/100 and a 16 port Gb -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ugo Bellavance Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 5:32 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] multiple networks on one cable... On 2010-01-14 15:47, Mark McElvy wrote: I would if I had my brain wrapped around VLan's What equipment are you using? We could provide some guidance... Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Parr Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 2:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] multiple networks on one cable... 2010/1/14 Mark McElvymmce...@accubak.com: I am moving my servers to a new location in the same building. I only have 2 Ethernet runs from the current room to the new. I also have several networks to move. What would it hurt to have several different IP networks traveling across a single cable for say a week as I moved the servers, ie, 10.25.1.x and 172.22.1.x and 172.22.255.x all plugged into the same switch? Why not trunk them as tagged vlans? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.127/2603 - Release Date: 01/14/10 01:35:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.127/2603 - Release Date: 01/14/10 01:35:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] multiple networks on one cable...
I am moving my servers to a new location in the same building. I only have 2 Ethernet runs from the current room to the new. I also have several networks to move. What would it hurt to have several different IP networks traveling across a single cable for say a week as I moved the servers, ie, 10.25.1.x and 172.22.1.x and 172.22.255.x all plugged into the same switch? Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] multiple networks on one cable...
I would if I had my brain wrapped around VLan's Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Parr Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 2:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] multiple networks on one cable... 2010/1/14 Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com: I am moving my servers to a new location in the same building. I only have 2 Ethernet runs from the current room to the new. I also have several networks to move. What would it hurt to have several different IP networks traveling across a single cable for say a week as I moved the servers, ie, 10.25.1.x and 172.22.1.x and 172.22.255.x all plugged into the same switch? Why not trunk them as tagged vlans? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.127/2603 - Release Date: 01/14/10 01:35:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] wind turbine
I would say you need one that will furl in high winds. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 5:19 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] wind turbine Anyone using wind turbines in high-wind areas? We had a Southwest wind power AirBreeze get shredded - probably 80+mph winds. Are 5 or 6-blade turbines going to handle high wind better? -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 http://www.infowest.com/ Letting off steam always produces more heat than light. - Neal A. Maxwell WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.127/2603 - Release Date: 01/14/10 01:35:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Sectors
Well I just upgraded the RB from a 433 to a 433AH because I was seeing processor hitting 60-80% during peak times. I am actually just planning ahead because I keep hearing 30 as a magic number per AP. Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 8:10 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors Do you think you're hitting the limit of 802.11b/g or is it the lack of horsepower on the AP's CPU? Greg On Dec 2, 2009, at 8:33 AM, Jason Hensley wrote: On this same subject, would it be better to put up 3 individual AP's, or would something like the Deliberant Quad work well if the issue is AP overload. I have an AP that has 35 subscribers right now. We've seen a performance drop on it and are considering sectoring. Any thoughts on a dual (or quad) radio on a single board vs multiple boards with single radios? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 6:28 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors Mark, If I remember right, you are in Missouri. I was looking for the strength of your omni. We have had good success with 9 db omni's in the Indiana farmland. When we need to sectorize but the market capacity is not that high, we often go to (2) 180 Superpass 9 db sectors. We have had good luck with them over the years. They improve our signal to existing clients and enable affordable expansion in rural areas. If the market will justify 3 sectors, I would go that way though. Many of our Wireless POPs are pico-cells and we try to limit our salesmen to a 6 mile diameter around the tower. Although, we can often go farther, we try to stay inside these guidelines when possible. To achieve a high density of broadcast stations, many locations are needed. Luckily, we are well established in our area and have most of these sites already in operation. Your mileage may vary given your topology and broadcast site density. Rick Harnish -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 10:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Sectors I am running 2.4 HPOL It has taken about 1.5 yrs to grow this AP to 32 subs. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 3-dB Networks Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 9:37 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors What frequency band and polarization? I would also strongly consider your reasoning for moving from the Omni to the sectors. If it is because your AP is overloaded so you need to offload some, 3 AP's might be attractive for future proofing sakes. Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 8:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors 9db -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 7:42 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors What size omni are you using? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 7:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors That is the general suggestion - two 120s. That one guy that does antenna design said so :) You will get some less coverage then three 120s but at the cost of the extra radio/antenna it isn't cost efficient. On 12/1/09, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote: I need to sector a tower that currently is an omni. I don't really want to go to 3x 120's but find it hard to find 180's and have heard they don't tend to work great. I have also heard 2x 120's will work, any comments? Mark - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
[WISPA] Sectors
I need to sector a tower that currently is an omni. I don't really want to go to 3x 120's but find it hard to find 180's and have heard they don't tend to work great. I have also heard 2x 120's will work, any comments? Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Sectors
9db -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 7:42 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors What size omni are you using? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 7:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors That is the general suggestion - two 120s. That one guy that does antenna design said so :) You will get some less coverage then three 120s but at the cost of the extra radio/antenna it isn't cost efficient. On 12/1/09, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote: I need to sector a tower that currently is an omni. I don't really want to go to 3x 120's but find it hard to find 180's and have heard they don't tend to work great. I have also heard 2x 120's will work, any comments? Mark - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.426 / Virus Database: 270.14.89/2539 - Release Date: 12/01/09 19:32:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.72/2511 - Release Date: 12/01/09 01:59:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Sectors
I am running 2.4 HPOL It has taken about 1.5 yrs to grow this AP to 32 subs. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 3-dB Networks Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 9:37 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors What frequency band and polarization? I would also strongly consider your reasoning for moving from the Omni to the sectors. If it is because your AP is overloaded so you need to offload some, 3 AP's might be attractive for future proofing sakes. Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 8:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors 9db -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 7:42 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors What size omni are you using? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 7:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors That is the general suggestion - two 120s. That one guy that does antenna design said so :) You will get some less coverage then three 120s but at the cost of the extra radio/antenna it isn't cost efficient. On 12/1/09, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote: I need to sector a tower that currently is an omni. I don't really want to go to 3x 120's but find it hard to find 180's and have heard they don't tend to work great. I have also heard 2x 120's will work, any comments? Mark - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.426 / Virus Database: 270.14.89/2539 - Release Date: 12/01/09 19:32:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.72/2511 - Release Date: 12/01/09 01:59:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.72/2511 - Release Date: 12/01/09 01:59:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Intermittant connectivity
Ok, I went out the problem customer and switched them to bridged mode and set their router to do PPPoe and ShaZam, all is good. Why is this only happening with some of the CPQ's and not all? Thanks Marlon. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT Radio Plastic Door Question
No I say he is referring to the NS2's and Loco's. Having to push down on the tab and the get the cover to slide can be annoying. It would be nice if there was a thumb grip area on the cover to allow traction;) Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 8:34 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] UBNT Radio Plastic Door Question Either I have a personal problem or these doors are a PITA. Whats the secret to make it easy? I can get them open, but it is not something I can do without a screwdriver and two hands while saying obscene words. Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Intermittant connectivity
The trees/ brush grew up, when installed the signal was more like -78. The problem is I have other towers/ aps with similar customers, ones whose links have degraded over time due to foliage and those AP's seem fine. Mark McElvy -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Intermittant connectivity 509.988.0260 I'll tell you though, trees are a no no. ESPECIALLY with such low signal levels. I've found that anything less than about -85 won't be stable. I try really hard to stay closer to -75. marlon - Original Message - From: Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com To: Mikrotik discussions mikro...@mail.butchevans.com; mikrotik-us...@wispa.org; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 2:36 PM Subject: [WISPA] Intermittant connectivity Here we go again... referring to the frustrating install customer issue. It basically comes down to intermittent ability to ping the AP interface, pings for a bit then time out for a bit, then starts replying again. First noticed the issue with a new install on an AP I have not added a customer to for a while. I had another customer on the AP poor connectivity issues but did not see the on and off pinging and they were shooting through under growth, I moved there radio to the other side of the house and put a NS2 on instead of the CPQ. I went to another customer on this AP and they have the same issue with pings coming and going. And random web browsing timeouts. I am kind of pondering AP issues but why would my other customers have the problem? I do have on customer with a really poor signal, -90/-92 due to a shot kinda through trees. Is there anyone using similar equipment willing to talk on the phone to discuss this problem? Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. 573.247.9980 - Cell WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] XR2 radio firmware
Is there firmware on the Ubiquity radio cards that can be updated via Mikrotik? Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Intermittant connectivity
Here we go again... referring to the frustrating install customer issue. It basically comes down to intermittent ability to ping the AP interface, pings for a bit then time out for a bit, then starts replying again. First noticed the issue with a new install on an AP I have not added a customer to for a while. I had another customer on the AP poor connectivity issues but did not see the on and off pinging and they were shooting through under growth, I moved there radio to the other side of the house and put a NS2 on instead of the CPQ. I went to another customer on this AP and they have the same issue with pings coming and going. And random web browsing timeouts. I am kind of pondering AP issues but why would my other customers have the problem? I do have on customer with a really poor signal, -90/-92 due to a shot kinda through trees. Is there anyone using similar equipment willing to talk on the phone to discuss this problem? Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. 573.247.9980 - Cell WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Frustrating connectivity issues.
24v on a RB532/XR2 @ 200ft Mark McElvy -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 9:55 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Frustrating connectivity issues. What POE/routerboard is it? If it's a 24v POE on the rb4xx I'm sure you're OK. I run 24v POE on rb433 and rb411 with XR5 cards and a good 250 cat5. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Frustrating connectivity issues.
Recently I posted an issue with a new customer that had a great signal but poor throughput. A lot of people sais multipath. Well now I have more data and another customer seeing the same thing. 1. If you get connected to an RDP session it stays connected. 2. If you do a constant ping, you get responses for a while, you won't get responses for a while. 3. While the pings respond, you can web browse fast. 4. While the pings don't respond, you get page cannot be displayed. 5. The whole time the RDP session will stay connected and functional. 6. Customer says the online game they play will take several attempts to connect but once connected it works great. Someone else suggested power but tried different power supplies with same result. These are Tranzeo CPQ's as clients and MT AP/RB532/XR-2/120 16db HPol. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] Frustrating connectivity issues.
Yes the RDP session is functioning because I am using to monitor the AP. The radio is staying associated and the PPPoE session as well. I am pinging the wireless interface of the AP. I am running the 4.05 software on the CPE's. I don't see the ping drops while pinging the CPE from the office. Mark McElvy -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 5:33 PM To: Mikrotik discussions Cc: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] Frustrating connectivity issues. The whole time the RDP session will stay connected and functional. Are you sure it's functional? I expect it probably isn't usable while the pings stop just like browsing isn't capable. What are you pinging from/to? Do you have the Tranzeo fix applied to your CPEs as you're using a Mikrotik AP? Is the Tranzeo rebooting per their interpretation of the RFC? Is the wireless registration staying up according to the AP? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote: Recently I posted an issue with a new customer that had a great signal but poor throughput. A lot of people sais multipath. Well now I have more data and another customer seeing the same thing. 1. If you get connected to an RDP session it stays connected. 2. If you do a constant ping, you get responses for a while, you won't get responses for a while. 3. While the pings respond, you can web browse fast. 4. While the pings don't respond, you get page cannot be displayed. 5. The whole time the RDP session will stay connected and functional. 6. Customer says the online game they play will take several attempts to connect but once connected it works great. Someone else suggested power but tried different power supplies with same result. These are Tranzeo CPQ's as clients and MT AP/RB532/XR-2/120 16db HPol. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20091104/5e67ba 80/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list mikro...@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Sectoring a tower
I have one of my towers that has grown to 32 subs, This is a MT ap and I hear that is the magic limit. The only current issue I have with it CPU maxing out at peak times and I am planning a board swap for that. I was also thinking of sectoring but do not feel the need for three. Having a hard time finding a 180 deg HPOL 2.4Ghz sector. Found one that SuperPass sells but the quality does not seem to be there. Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Link stability
I have a wireless backhaul link that is not as stable as I would like. It is a 15.5 mile shot that has been up for 3 years. MT/CM9/32db dish on both ends. On a clear day I am only seeing a -83 on each end. All the radio equip was replaced April 08 due to lighting, still have the original 3ft LMR-400 and antenna. I seem to remember the signal being in the -70 range prior to the lightning replacements. Right now the link is down with random reconnects with a -92 and then it will drop again. Weather is misty thick and overcast. I kinda of have a twofold question, could the weather be attenuating the signal enough to drop the connection? I think yes. Second, could I have a weakened/damaged antenna causing the general drop in signal? Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Link stability
Aligned and re-aligned. I suppose there is a possibility I am catching side lobes. We climbed to realign back in the spring when we had some 70 mph gusts move things. Could not get any better than -85. Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 3:33 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link stability Hi, According to my path calculator, this link should be -55 on each side. Are you sure it was aligned when it was first installed? Travis Microserv Mark McElvy wrote: I have a wireless backhaul link that is not as stable as I would like. It is a 15.5 mile shot that has been up for 3 years. MT/CM9/32db dish on both ends. On a clear day I am only seeing a -83 on each end. All the radio equip was replaced April 08 due to lighting, still have the original 3ft LMR-400 and antenna. I seem to remember the signal being in the -70 range prior to the lightning replacements. Right now the link is down with random reconnects with a -92 and then it will drop again. Weather is misty thick and overcast. I kinda of have a twofold question, could the weather be attenuating the signal enough to drop the connection? I think yes. Second, could I have a weakened/damaged antenna causing the general drop in signal? Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Link stability
They have had radome covers since installed Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of jp Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 3:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link stability I'd change the LMR jumper and/or feedhorn. There's a strong chance there is water in the jumper and changing it might fix it. There's also a chance that the feedhorn has failed. If you end up changing the feedhorn, consider putting a radome on the dish to protect the feedhorn from weather. It's not necessary, but it is additional protection. On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 02:39:47PM -0500, Mark McElvy wrote: I have a wireless backhaul link that is not as stable as I would like. It is a 15.5 mile shot that has been up for 3 years. MT/CM9/32db dish on both ends. On a clear day I am only seeing a -83 on each end. All the radio equip was replaced April 08 due to lighting, still have the original 3ft LMR-400 and antenna. I seem to remember the signal being in the -70 range prior to the lightning replacements. Right now the link is down with random reconnects with a -92 and then it will drop again. Weather is misty thick and overcast. I kinda of have a twofold question, could the weather be attenuating the signal enough to drop the connection? I think yes. Second, could I have a weakened/damaged antenna causing the general drop in signal? Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Link stability
Yes, the pigtail was replaced, just not the coax and antenna. It is a PacWireless dish Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Identifying 2ft dish frequency
I have 4 two ft dishes that where pulled down when the previous wisp went out of business. There are no markings on them and I need to determine frequency and polarity. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Identifying 2ft dish frequency
These appear to be Pac Wireless dishes. Is there any instructions on setting the polarity? I seem to remember setting up an new Pac dish and there where instructions showing the polarity setting based on a pin on the feed horn. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:08 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Identifying 2ft dish frequency It's the feed that determine the frequency. If there is no markings on it the only reasonable way is to use something like a Bird Site Analyzer to figure out your VSWR on the feed and see where the VSWR and return loss is the best. The dish itself only focus the energy in one particular spot then it's up to the feed to pick out the frequency you are interested in. If it's a grid dish certain spacing between the members are good for certain ranges of frequency but a solid does not have this issue. Polarity comes down to the feed again how it's installed in the dish. By rotating the feed 90deg in the mount will change your polarity. / Eje -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 8:43 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Identifying 2ft dish frequency I have 4 two ft dishes that where pulled down when the previous wisp went out of business. There are no markings on them and I need to determine frequency and polarity. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Identifying 2ft dish frequency
I happen to know they are either 5.8 or 2.4 as this was the only equipment I have found of theirs, they left it all when they went out of business. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. 573.729.9200 - Office 573.729.9203 - Fax 573.247.9980 - Mobile http://www.accubak.com/ http://www.accubak.net/ Nationwide Internet Access Accurate backups for your critical data! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of ccrum Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:29 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Identifying 2ft dish frequency Got a spectrum analyzer and a frequency generator? Or a good network analyzer will do, but most people don't have one laying around. The feeds could literally be anything. You might be better off just calling the MFG of the dish and buying new feeds in the range you want unless you you have a few hours of extra time on your hands. Cameron Mark McElvy wrote: I have 4 two ft dishes that where pulled down when the previous wisp went out of business. There are no markings on them and I need to determine frequency and polarity. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Identifying 2ft dish frequency
I suppose the may not be pacwireless as I have determined they are 2.4 by hooking the up to a CM9 and when ap is in 5.8 I see nothing and when in 2.4 I can see. Now I just need to find 5.8 feedhorns to fit this dish. Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 10:10 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Identifying 2ft dish frequency Assuming they're Pac (not sure how that was determined) You know they are 2.4 or 5Ghz Eje just said: If these are Pacific Wireless dishes then they are 5GHz assuming these are solid dishes since Pac never produced a 2.4GHz feedhorn for their solid dishes at least during the 6+ years we been one of their distributors. Obviously it's 5GHz! Polarity is normally done with an arrow sticker on the base of the feedhorn. Of course if it's been out in the weather it's long gone. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote: BTW Mark, if you determine they are PacWireless antennas I'd just punt them on EBay and replace them with RadioWaves or Gabriel 2' antennas. In the long run you'll be a lot happier. Just my opinion... Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 10:01 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Identifying 2ft dish frequency Ok, just checking. Good cover...grin Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:56 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Identifying 2ft dish frequency The feedhorn specifically. Maybe the length will help you too. I know with higher gain the 5GHz grids are noticeably longer. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote: Hmmm, pretty sure a 2' dish is a 2' dish regardless of frequency...or are you speaking of the diameter of the feed? Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:40 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Identifying 2ft dish frequency Can you measure diameter and compare it with the 2.4 and 5.8 GHz dishes? Never thought about it but they would have to be different sizes. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote: I happen to know they are either 5.8 or 2.4 as this was the only equipment I have found of theirs, they left it all when they went out of business. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. 573.729.9200 - Office 573.729.9203 - Fax 573.247.9980 - Mobile http://www.accubak.com/ http://www.accubak.net/ Nationwide Internet Access Accurate backups for your critical data! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of ccrum Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:29 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Identifying 2ft dish frequency Got a spectrum analyzer and a frequency generator? Or a good network analyzer will do, but most people don't have one laying around. The feeds could literally be anything. You might be better off just calling the MFG of the dish and buying new feeds in the range you want unless you you have a few hours of extra time on your hands. Cameron Mark McElvy wrote: I have 4 two ft dishes that where pulled down when the previous wisp went out of business. There are no markings on them and I need to determine frequency and polarity. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org
[WISPA] Identifying 2ft dish frequency
I decided they are pacwireless based on buying some new dishes several years back and they are built exactly the same. May be a bad assumption. Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 10:10 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Identifying 2ft dish frequency Assuming they're Pac (not sure how that was determined) You know they are 2.4 or 5Ghz Eje just said: If these are Pacific Wireless dishes then they are 5GHz assuming these are solid dishes since Pac never produced a 2.4GHz feedhorn for their solid dishes at least during the 6+ years we been one of their distributors. Obviously it's 5GHz! Polarity is normally done with an arrow sticker on the base of the feedhorn. Of course if it's been out in the weather it's long gone. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote: BTW Mark, if you determine they are PacWireless antennas I'd just punt them on EBay and replace them with RadioWaves or Gabriel 2' antennas. In the long run you'll be a lot happier. Just my opinion... Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 10:01 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Identifying 2ft dish frequency Ok, just checking. Good cover...grin Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:56 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Identifying 2ft dish frequency The feedhorn specifically. Maybe the length will help you too. I know with higher gain the 5GHz grids are noticeably longer. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote: Hmmm, pretty sure a 2' dish is a 2' dish regardless of frequency...or are you speaking of the diameter of the feed? Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:40 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Identifying 2ft dish frequency Can you measure diameter and compare it with the 2.4 and 5.8 GHz dishes? Never thought about it but they would have to be different sizes. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote: I happen to know they are either 5.8 or 2.4 as this was the only equipment I have found of theirs, they left it all when they went out of business. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. 573.729.9200 - Office 573.729.9203 - Fax 573.247.9980 - Mobile http://www.accubak.com/ http://www.accubak.net/ Nationwide Internet Access Accurate backups for your critical data! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of ccrum Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:29 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Identifying 2ft dish frequency Got a spectrum analyzer and a frequency generator? Or a good network analyzer will do, but most people don't have one laying around. The feeds could literally be anything. You might be better off just calling the MFG of the dish and buying new feeds in the range you want unless you you have a few hours of extra time on your hands. Cameron Mark McElvy wrote: I have 4 two ft dishes that where pulled down when the previous wisp went out of business. There are no markings on them and I need to determine frequency and polarity. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org
[WISPA] Keyon Communications
We were solicited for purchase by this company today. Anyone have anything to share about them? Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have
Where do you get or call those 1ft long wires? Mark McElvy -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 9:09 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have Travis, If you'll go through $200 per month in connectors these will save you at least $500 in labor. It takes less than half the time to make a connection and they are NEVER wrong. These and the Times LMR400 stripper have been some of the best tools I've ever purchased. Those and a 1' long wire that slips just inside a cat5 cable so that it can easily be pushed through a wall without getting hung up on the insulation etc. Laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson To: WISPA General List Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have These do look great... and I would love to buy them for my installers... but $.50 per connector compared to what I pay now would cost me an extra $200 per month just in connectors. :( Travis Microserv Mike wrote: They DO sell shielded. Part PLT-100020-050 Look further down the list at: www.ezrj45.com At 11:13 AM 10/18/2009, you wrote: Yeah, those are awesome. I wish they had shielded connectors as well. marlon - Original Message - From: Mike m...@aweiowa.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 7:01 AM Subject: [WISPA] Gotta Have I have learned a lot from this list. I think there is some real talent lurking here. We all have discovered certain things which just make life as a WISP easier. I think it would be beneficial to list participants in general if there was a thread which contained a description and use of something you find invaluable -- hardware, software etc ... you would like to share with the group. I'll start: what: EZRJ-45 connector system where: www.ezrj45.com why: As my eyes get older, and especially in low light situations, I find it very difficult to get all those individual conductors on a CAT5 run in the right order while crimping an end. This is a quite ingenious system. The plugs have holes all the way through. You can verify the color code easily BEFORE crimping and cutting the tags. It takes a special crimp tool which has a pair of blades that cut the tags as it crimps the connector in place. Maybe not a time saver in my case, but definitely a GRIEF saver. I've not miswired an Ethernet plug since I started using this system. Mike WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have
I use 50ft (about 45ft actual) Rohn telescoping mast for site surveys when I need height. We have lots of massive trees. And we regularly extend them full height while holding them about 15 to 20 ft up. Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 9:44 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have Not on a windy day! I do push it up 26' unguyed regularly. 34 foot is a little harrier. They have a drive on mount that makes it nice as a socket to hold the pole. It's fiberglass so you can't get electrocuted if you get stupid. It pushes up real easily, a lot better than that rat shack steel one. That is a Rohn, right? Mike At 09:16 AM 10/19/2009, you wrote: Can it go 40' unguyed? How hard it is to push it up? I've got a similar 30' that came from Radio Shack I think, but I can't get it to 30' unguyed. But, it was a LOT less cost than this one. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 8:54 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have Damn, I love this thing already.Good price too, how quick can you put this up? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 9:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Gotta Have what: wonderpole 40' fiberglass push up pole where: http://www.wonderpole.com/wp640_630.html why:It is easy to take a telescoping pole to a site survey and put a panel up in air for testing. I don't push mine out to 40' often, and not for long, but regularly push it up 26' or so to do a test. Well made, reasonably priced, and made in the good old USA. --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] New install driving me crazy....
So I go back out to the customer to do some testing. Customers router is on channel 11 and I am on 5. The client radio can see two of my AP's, one on channel 5 and the other on 6. The tower I am connected to now is 2.7miles away @ 324 degrees and the other tower is 5.5 miles @ 355 degrees. I tried turning to left of the tower, away from the distant tower till I was @ about -70 and I get the same result. Here is something I find interesting. I started a constant ping to the AP and the border router. I can RDP to my monitoring server and connect to my exchange server in the office while getting no ping response but cannot browse. If the pings start responding, I can browse. The pings will respond for a minute or so then stop for a few minutes. I am not seeing this at my other customers on this AP. Still think multipath? I tried to connect to the distant AP with a signal @ -80 but it did not want to associate. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 8:45 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] New install driving me crazy Is that a bigger or smaller antenna size than what you have now? If you moved up by 10' and increased your signal levels, what 1000% or so, I'd REALLY say that this is looking like a multipath issue. Often with multipath I've seen the signals hold well but performance suck. It'll sometimes kill the signal though. I had one install that has some power lines in the way. Fought intermittent outages etc. for over a year. His signal was OK, but not great. Finally something changes a bit and his signal dropped too low. Hmmm, bad radio. So I pulled his radio out and put in a brand new one, still crappy signal. Double hm I put the old radio back in, left it off the mount and moved it around to see what would happen. (I always leave 6 to 10' of cable on the mount just for things like this.) Triple hm Move the radio to the west 6' and DOWN 2' and he's got great signal, faster speeds than ever and is happy as a clam. Now one of my biggest PITA customers just never calls anymore. It was a very amazing transformation to his service. Again, there were some powerlines *close* to the path but not in it. Things actually looked pretty good to me. But not to the radio. Your symptoms look like multipath to me. We don't see it's effect very often, the systems handle it quite well today. But when it hits it can hit hard. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 4:50 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] New install driving me crazy Well before moving to the current setup, I originally had a CPQ-19, 10 ft lower. It had a -80 with the same result and I was seeing a lot of retries. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] New install driving me crazy Change from b to g or g to be mode. Turn your power WAY down. That's way too hot of a signal. Any metal, trees, houses, power lines etc. anywhere near the signal path? This looks a LOT like multipath. marlon - Original Message - From: Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 2:30 PM Subject: [WISPA] New install driving me crazy Installing a new customer, Tranzeo CPQ-19 to a MT AP, -60 signal up/dn, -102 noise. About half the time I don't get name resolution and can't browse pages. This happens with two different radios. It is kind of acting like I am loosing routing or something. I also notice I will get very high ping times sporadically along with drop pings. Best of my knowledge no one else having issue on this AP, about a dozen users. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants
Re: [WISPA] New install driving me crazy....
Well before moving to the current setup, I originally had a CPQ-19, 10 ft lower. It had a -80 with the same result and I was seeing a lot of retries. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] New install driving me crazy Change from b to g or g to be mode. Turn your power WAY down. That's way too hot of a signal. Any metal, trees, houses, power lines etc. anywhere near the signal path? This looks a LOT like multipath. marlon - Original Message - From: Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 2:30 PM Subject: [WISPA] New install driving me crazy Installing a new customer, Tranzeo CPQ-19 to a MT AP, -60 signal up/dn, -102 noise. About half the time I don't get name resolution and can't browse pages. This happens with two different radios. It is kind of acting like I am loosing routing or something. I also notice I will get very high ping times sporadically along with drop pings. Best of my knowledge no one else having issue on this AP, about a dozen users. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] New install driving me crazy....
Marlon I do not disagree with your assessment but the original installation was a 30ft mast sitting on the roof of the garage and strapped to the eve of the second story roof. This put a 19db radio 20 ft above the roof, given the signal, -80~ and the retries a figured it was shooting through the mass of oak trees. I added 10ft to the mast and to 19db radio went to -56~ so I swapped the radio to a 15db version. This is a 2.7 Mile link. It is going to be rather hard to move. Mark McElvy -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 8:45 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] New install driving me crazy Is that a bigger or smaller antenna size than what you have now? If you moved up by 10' and increased your signal levels, what 1000% or so, I'd REALLY say that this is looking like a multipath issue. Often with multipath I've seen the signals hold well but performance suck. It'll sometimes kill the signal though. I had one install that has some power lines in the way. Fought intermittent outages etc. for over a year. His signal was OK, but not great. Finally something changes a bit and his signal dropped too low. Hmmm, bad radio. So I pulled his radio out and put in a brand new one, still crappy signal. Double hm I put the old radio back in, left it off the mount and moved it around to see what would happen. (I always leave 6 to 10' of cable on the mount just for things like this.) Triple hm Move the radio to the west 6' and DOWN 2' and he's got great signal, faster speeds than ever and is happy as a clam. Now one of my biggest PITA customers just never calls anymore. It was a very amazing transformation to his service. Again, there were some powerlines *close* to the path but not in it. Things actually looked pretty good to me. But not to the radio. Your symptoms look like multipath to me. We don't see it's effect very often, the systems handle it quite well today. But when it hits it can hit hard. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 4:50 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] New install driving me crazy Well before moving to the current setup, I originally had a CPQ-19, 10 ft lower. It had a -80 with the same result and I was seeing a lot of retries. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] New install driving me crazy Change from b to g or g to be mode. Turn your power WAY down. That's way too hot of a signal. Any metal, trees, houses, power lines etc. anywhere near the signal path? This looks a LOT like multipath. marlon - Original Message - From: Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 2:30 PM Subject: [WISPA] New install driving me crazy Installing a new customer, Tranzeo CPQ-19 to a MT AP, -60 signal up/dn, -102 noise. About half the time I don't get name resolution and can't browse pages. This happens with two different radios. It is kind of acting like I am loosing routing or something. I also notice I will get very high ping times sporadically along with drop pings. Best of my knowledge no one else having issue on this AP, about a dozen users. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] New install driving me crazy....
My radio is the router/PPPoE client. Yes their indoor AP is routing also but I see issue when connected directly with my laptop. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. 573.729.9200 - Office 573.729.9203 - Fax 573.247.9980 - Mobile http://www.accubak.com/ http://www.accubak.net/ Nationwide Internet Access Accurate backups for your critical data! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Andy Trimmell Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 9:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] New install driving me crazy Are you using the CPE as a bridge? Or are you using their router as a PPPoE connector? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 7:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] New install driving me crazy Yes there is an indoor router, but so does every other client I have. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 4:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] New install driving me crazy That is 2.4 - is there an indoor WiFi router on the other side of the wall causing interference? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com wrote: How many subs on the tower? Is the tower linked to a CPE that is linked to your main tower (poor mans repeater?) ryan On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote: Installing a new customer, Tranzeo CPQ-19 to a MT AP, -60 signal up/dn, -102 noise. About half the time I don't get name resolution and can't browse pages. This happens with two different radios. It is kind of acting like I am loosing routing or something. I also notice I will get very high ping times sporadically along with drop pings. Best of my knowledge no one else having issue on this AP, about a dozen users. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] New install driving me crazy....
Installing a new customer, Tranzeo CPQ-19 to a MT AP, -60 signal up/dn, -102 noise. About half the time I don't get name resolution and can't browse pages. This happens with two different radios. It is kind of acting like I am loosing routing or something. I also notice I will get very high ping times sporadically along with drop pings. Best of my knowledge no one else having issue on this AP, about a dozen users. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] New install driving me crazy....
About a dozen on this sector. No -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Spott Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 4:35 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] New install driving me crazy How many subs on the tower? Is the tower linked to a CPE that is linked to your main tower (poor mans repeater?) ryan On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote: Installing a new customer, Tranzeo CPQ-19 to a MT AP, -60 signal up/dn, -102 noise. About half the time I don't get name resolution and can't browse pages. This happens with two different radios. It is kind of acting like I am loosing routing or something. I also notice I will get very high ping times sporadically along with drop pings. Best of my knowledge no one else having issue on this AP, about a dozen users. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] New install driving me crazy....
Yes there is an indoor router, but so does every other client I have. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 4:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] New install driving me crazy That is 2.4 - is there an indoor WiFi router on the other side of the wall causing interference? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com wrote: How many subs on the tower? Is the tower linked to a CPE that is linked to your main tower (poor mans repeater?) ryan On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote: Installing a new customer, Tranzeo CPQ-19 to a MT AP, -60 signal up/dn, -102 noise. About half the time I don't get name resolution and can't browse pages. This happens with two different radios. It is kind of acting like I am loosing routing or something. I also notice I will get very high ping times sporadically along with drop pings. Best of my knowledge no one else having issue on this AP, about a dozen users. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] FreeRadius / Accounting data
I am running FreeRadius and FreeSide usinf PPPoE. Freeside currently does not give me the reports I need for my accounting data. When I run a report, it gives you details on each record but does not give you totals for each user. I would like to generate a report that would give me upload/download totals for a given time period. Anyone know of software I can run against the FreeRadius accounting data to get this info or have any Freeside customization that would like to share to do this? I am looking at bitcap bill if you have not guessed;) Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FreeRadius / Accounting data
That was very useful, I was able to cut and paste in into Excel so I could sort. You seem to have gotten the UL and DL labels backward. And the total ends up in the same column as the UL number. Another issue is that there are some accounting records that cross the first of the month. Is there any way to force an accounting record daily? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tim Sylvester Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 4:47 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] FreeRadius / Accounting data If you store the accounting data in MySQL, you can perform the following SQL query to list the number of bytes Downloaded, Uploaded, Total Bytes by user for a give time period. select username, sum(acctinputoctets) as Download, sum(acctoutputoctets) as Upload, sum(acctinputoctets + acctoutputoctets) as Total Bytes FROM radacct where acctstarttime BETWEEN '2009-06-01' and '2009-07-01' group by username; Tim -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 8:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] FreeRadius / Accounting data I am running FreeRadius and FreeSide usinf PPPoE. Freeside currently does not give me the reports I need for my accounting data. When I run a report, it gives you details on each record but does not give you totals for each user. I would like to generate a report that would give me upload/download totals for a given time period. Anyone know of software I can run against the FreeRadius accounting data to get this info or have any Freeside customization that would like to share to do this? I am looking at bitcap bill if you have not guessed;) Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Multipath
I am curious if anyone thinks this is multipath and has a suggestion on how to fix. This just happens to be my dads house, radio mounted to a j-mount on eve of house, clear LOS to tower 1 mile away, -56 signal. This eve is over the porch roof to the east and signal shoots over the south plane of the roof which is an approx 30deg angle. I was over this morning and he is complaining the Internet is not working and I go in to do some troubleshooting. I setup a constant ping to the AP and I am getting 1ms, I start to browse and the pings jump to 300ms and random lost packets. Configure a new radio in the house and have a -75 signal in the house, try the ping thing again and all seems fine. I replace he radio on the roof and I am back to the poor ping times again. Now I don't understand multipath as well I should but it seems to make sense in this case. Is it possible to reduce or remedy without moving the radio to a totally different location? Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Multipath
First radio Tranzeo CPQ15 second was a Ubiquity NS2. I never noticed a signal fluctuation. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 1:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Multipath Bump it up about 10 degrees and see if that helps your multipath issue. Does the signal strength stay at -57 or does it fluctuate? On MT gear it's very easy to identify it as you'll see -55 for the most part, then -70 for a quick moment. I'm assuming you're using Canopy here - watch the alignment tool page (I suggest having it refresh every 3 or 4 seconds) and see if it jumps around. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Multipath
I am on the same AP with no issue and other customers are not talking if they are having issues. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 2:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Multipath Any issues, or are there any, with other stations on that same AP? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote: It has been up for a few years and he has complained on and off. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 2:02 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Multipath Mark, Was this an existing installation and it just started acting up or has it been doing this since day one?? -B- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Micropops
I suppose that is a good term, I would like to be able to redistribute service to small pockets of houses, 6-12, without putting up a full blown AP/BH setup. Any one else doing this? I normally use 5.8 for BH typically and 2.4 for clients, I was thinking of maybe using a PS2 to receive/BH and connect it to an NS2 with small omni to redistribute. Both would be in a bridge and allow the clients connected to connect to the main AP for PPPoE authentication. Is this a reasonable or ridiculous solution? Any other solutions others are using that might be better? I know I could use MT but that would add complexity to the mix I don't need. Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality
20 Meg would cost me 5k. Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 10:22 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality $1500 for 20 megs here. Nearly double your cost. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Matt lm7...@gmail.com wrote: Yup. We pay almost 800 bucks for 20/20 meg. To not do any shaping we would Thats cheap compared to what we pay! You are paying about $40 a meg. Is that tier1 bandwidth? We are paying about $100 meg for tier1. Matt have to charge way more than anyone will pay. Take the 800 bucks split by 20 then add overhead costs and it's too much to bear. Bandwidth that will handle 500+ customers with shaping would then, if totally net neutral, only go to 20 customers or less. To be true net neutral is just to pass all the traffic through with no touching it. Reasonable network management, as Josh says, is pretty broad in definition. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality
What are you using to tabulate your accounting data? Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David Sovereen Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 10:27 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality We measure and record each subscriber's usage (easy to do with Mikrotik HotSpot functionality and RADIUS accounting data). WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller
Are you saying you have a RADIUS server that can read AD's users or are you using Microsoft's IAS as a RADIUS server? You could have Freeside setup to do your new hotspot users, accounts setup automatically via the Mikrotik interface. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Andy Trimmell Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:46 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller AD doesn't have the ability to create usernames and passwords on its own. We have a radius server that checks in with AD for current customers. We want to be able to give current customers access through all of our hotspots but people that aren't the ability to purchase time when they're within hotspot range. We're looking for a complete billing and account creation solution. Very little interaction by us so they people can just hit a hotspot, pay for time, surf, go home. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question
I am curious about 900 noise. My 2.4 gear sees noise levels of about -98 to -102, but the XR9 setup I have with H120 sector see -80 to -85 or so. I am in a small town of 5000 and I am curious what might be generating such a high noise floor. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 10:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question Lol, and the answer is because horizontal usually has less noise. Whcih has nothing to do with the size of the wave cycle. Unless someone knows something I dont - which is always possible. On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Paul Ricepaul.r...@boomerang-networks.com wrote: heh, the question was why folks doing 900 preferred horizontal -- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 9:41 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Paul Ricepaul.r...@boomerang-networks.com wrote: Folks like horizontal for 900 MHz due to the size of the wave cycle approx 13 inches long I knew that but couldnt figure out why you specified horizontal. I guess you might have said  Folks like 900 MHz due to the size of the wave cycle approx 13 inches long. Thanks! -RickG On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:51 PM, Paul Ricepaul.r...@boomerang-networks.com wrote: same size.  The electromagnetic wave is the same, polarity refers to the orientation of the wave. up and down or side to side. 13 inches is the wavelength (length of a single cycle). -- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 7:33 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question The wave size of vertical would be different? -RickG On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Paul Ricepaul.r...@boomerang-networks.com wrote: Folks like horizontal for 900 MHz due to the size of the wave cycle approx 13 inches long -- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 11:02 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question But look at all the experience you are gaining :) On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Why horizontal polarity?  Cause I'm a total idiot when it comes to 900mhz and as my luck usually runs, if I go by the book nothing works until I do what I'm not supposed to do.  But, also as my luck runs, the opposite of what I try first will work  So it actually won't matter what I do including sitting the antennas 5 feet in front of each other, it will never work the first time out.  :) Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tim Edwards Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 12:33 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question I'm with Chuck, much better performance with the Trango vs. Mikrotik in my experience. Why horizontal pol?  Vertical cuts through the foliage much bettter, at least with the NorCal foliage we have here. tim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Tim Edwards, Chief Engineer     t...@telescience.net TeleScience Networks       http://telescience.net 11101 Hiway 1, #102             415-663-8891 Point Reyes Station, CA 94956-1375 =-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Chuck Hogg wrote: I find that the Trango 900 can handle the noise and capacity much better than MikroTik/XR9.  I have a few hundred on Trango and it works better imo than XR9's.  Canopy's GPS synch is the only reason I would prefer their 900MHz option. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 4:49 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question I'm actually about to test something similar in a few days.  We have a 2.5 mile link to put in with half a mile of it through trees with .25 miles of that running right over a creek.  Doing it on the cheap, or trying to. Have 2 Mikrotik 411 boards on both sides running a transparent bridge using XR9 cards attached to a pac wireless grid antenna setup with horizontal polarity.  The antennas are up and the boxes are configured, just have to go out tonight or tomorrow and run power to them and try to see what kind of throughput we can get, if any.  Haven't tried it before but we'll see. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions
If I did not mount on roofs I would not do many installs, most of my installs consist of 3ft tripod with 10ft mast or 30ft mast on roof peak with guy wires. Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:34 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions We mount to the roof when we have to. Last resort but there are times when it's the only option. We put down silicone then run the mounting screws though that. Never had a leak. People have been mounting things on roofs for a very very long time. As for brick, we use GOOD plastic anchors and longer screws than they would normally have. None have fallen off yet. When running the cable I drill the anchor holes into the mortar instead of the brick. I finally broke down and bought a nearly top of the line Bosch hammer drill. The DeWalt cordless is nice, but it's not really capable of dealing with high end brick or concrete. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 7:49 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions What's so bad about brick? I would imagine there is lags made for it (not the mortor). 've always used the saufet ?sp? And gutter to tuck/hide the cable so there is no damage. On 8/28/09, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: I agree, I will never again install on a roof. That cost me money once, not again. Can't even tell you how many homeowners have thanked us for not installing on the roof. They hate their satellite dish being up there and are willing to pay extra for anything to keep it off the roof. What I hate is brick homes. No way to mount no way to run cable and for some reason those are always the people who have their computers on an inside wall, are tighter than ticks and don't want to pay for anything but the standard install. Steve Barnes Manager PCS-WIN RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthened, vision cleared, ambition inspired, and success achieved. - Helen Keller -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 2:02 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions I have a big problem with making holes in a roof. I just don't! Reason is, any drip or drop then becomes the internet guys fault no matter if the roof is 40 years old and missing half the shingles already. Too many people out to gotcha. And the ones who ask to see our liability insurance before we do anything... Red flags! They turn out to be nightmares, we get permission in writing from those folks for every hole drilled. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 7:21 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions Tripods like roof hole making tripods? On 8/27/09, Brian Rohrbacher br...@reliableinter.net wrote: I guess I'm just old fashioned using tripods and 10 ft masts. Channel master. Tripods are $18 and masts are $11. We charge $30 for the tripods and $15 for 10ft mast including install. Brian Scott Reed wrote: 4 length of strut at the peak. 5' length of strut down where ever it falls on the eaves. Strut pipe clamp to fit pipe. /\ /-\ / \ / \ /\ Mike wrote: 'splain please! How is that configured? Thanks. At 10:50 AM 8/27/2009, you wrote: ... We now mount 2 pieces of 1-5/8 Unistrut with 1/4 lags and clamp the pipe to it. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.70/2329 - Release Date: 08/27/09 08:11:00 -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle WISPA Wants You! Join today!
Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions
Trees an terrain. We have 50-60 ft Oak trees very dense. Terrain varies from 1200 ft in town to 1100-1400 all around. Tried some 900 but had trouble getting it to work well. Mark From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 6:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions That is a lot of questions but I bet I can answer with one word. Terrain. Brian Josh Luthman wrote: Wow that's a lot of extra work per install! How high/far are your APs and what band are you using that needs this extra effort? On 8/30/09, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com mailto:mmce...@accubak.com wrote: If I did not mount on roofs I would not do many installs, most of my installs consist of 3ft tripod with 10ft mast or 30ft mast on roof peak with guy wires. Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:34 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions We mount to the roof when we have to. Last resort but there are times when it's the only option. We put down silicone then run the mounting screws though that. Never had a leak. People have been mounting things on roofs for a very very long time. As for brick, we use GOOD plastic anchors and longer screws than they would normally have. None have fallen off yet. When running the cable I drill the anchor holes into the mortar instead of the brick. I finally broke down and bought a nearly top of the line Bosch hammer drill. The DeWalt cordless is nice, but it's not really capable of dealing with high end brick or concrete. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 7:49 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions What's so bad about brick? I would imagine there is lags made for it (not the mortor). 've always used the saufet ?sp? And gutter to tuck/hide the cable so there is no damage. On 8/28/09, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com mailto:st...@pcswin.com wrote: I agree, I will never again install on a roof. That cost me money once, not again. Can't even tell you how many homeowners have thanked us for not installing on the roof. They hate their satellite dish being up there and are willing to pay extra for anything to keep it off the roof. What I hate is brick homes. No way to mount no way to run cable and for some reason those are always the people who have their computers on an inside wall, are tighter than ticks and don't want to pay for anything but the standard install. Steve Barnes Manager PCS-WIN RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthened, vision cleared, ambition inspired, and success achieved. - Helen Keller -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 2:02 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions I have a big problem with making holes in a roof. I just don't! Reason is, any drip or drop then becomes the internet guys fault no matter if the roof is 40 years old and missing half the shingles already. Too
Re: [WISPA] solar site
The solar list that I participate in recommend not using the charge controller included in that kit as it is junk. They always recommend MorningStar for like $60.00. Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of ralph Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 7:38 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site I was going to ask about this. Harbor freight has a set of 3 on sale for 199 with controller and a few other goodies. I keep meaning to go get some before they go off sale again (I may be too late already) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 2:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site I was shocked to find the 15W panels at Northern for $79.00. I ordered some and they work great. You need a charge controller, $45.00 to keep the batteries from over charging. You have to get creative with uni-strut and angle iron to make your own mount, or buy them. Batteries are the biggest expense. So to answer your question, yes. At 11:29 AM 8/25/2009, you wrote: Are you really saying that less than 500 bucks will build a solar system good enough for our radios these days? Dude, if that's true I can open up a LOT more doors! marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] solar site
No negative comments, they seem to be fine. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. 573.729.9200 - Office WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] recieve signal loss
I have been battling with one of my AP having receive signals 8-10 db less at the AP than the client. This is a RB532A with SR-2 and 16db 120 deg sector. I replaced the radio, pigtail, cable and the lightning arrestor. I finally pulled out the lightning arrestor and the signal are now mostly symmetrical up/down. I do not see this on my other AP's with the same style arrestor. Any ideas? I tried two different arrestors with the same result. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WAN HotSpot and Polarity
It has an adaptive mode which does both. Mark From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 2:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] WAN HotSpot and Polarity Dual polarity as in you are horizontal and vertical. Or as in the nano will do either polarity? As far as I know the nano does either (software switchable) not both. But, it would not be the first time I was wrong. Brian Charles Wyble wrote: The NS2 is dual polarity. Not sure what polarity the clients are. We get a lot of Iphones/Ipods as clients. So I haven't done any scientific studies, but wanted to give a real world indication of AP selection and coverage area. Tom DeReggi wrote: well thats interesting, but you didn't address the primary question of polarity. Or what polarity hotspot CPE devices generally see. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Charles Wyble char...@thewybles.com mailto:char...@thewybles.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] WAN HotSpot and Polarity I found that with a NanoStation2 I was able to provide coverage to an entire strip mall. Google earth it: 229 Main Street El Segundo, CA 90245 is where I deployed the AP. It's a fairly standard strip mall. I covered the entire mall, plus across the street in all 4 directions. Tom DeReggi wrote: Over the years, there have been many theories and strategies regarding what polarity is best to use for various purposes. As an engineer, I as well have my theories. But, I wanted to get an updated opinion based on field trials of others, for the following application Application... 2.4Ghz WAN WIFI HotSpot Specs... 1) Average sub located within 100 yards to 1/2 mile. 2) Find and Subscribe by Search for available Networks, via laptop's WIFI card. 3) If RF signal good enough to get a web splash screen to user, will display instruction for ordering higher gain antenna self-install kit for inside their window mount or balcony. 4) Access Point would likely use a sector panel (60 deg?), with an EIRP of 36db. The goal here is enabling residential users to find the ISP's AP on their own. So my questions are 1. If a Horizontally polarized antenna is used at the AP, Is it likely the consumer will equally be able to find your AP, compared to if it had been verical pol'd? The idea being, horizontal pol's noise floor is much lower in the particular area, and more likely ISP will avoid the noise from consumer APs that ship with vert pol antennas, where end users by default will stick the antennas straight up in Verticle pol position. 2. By the time the ISP's horizontal signal gets to the end user, is it received in multiple polarities, based on all the reflections in end users home and stuff? 3. Are laptop wifi cards typically no polarity, and pick up Horizontal as good as verticle signals? 4. Laptops would appear to have Horizontal pol antennas in some cases, expecially if a PCMCIA card. Is this true? Or are most laptops starting to embed verticle pol antennas on the sides of screens?
Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g booster
Have you looked at Trendnet routers? They have a repeater mode. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Aaron D. Osgood Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 11:21 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g booster We're looking for a low cost device that our customers can (preferably) self install in their locations to boost or repeat their WiFi (802.11 A, B, and G) Suggestions? Aaron D. Osgood Streamline Solutions L.L.C P.O. Box 6115 Falmouth, ME 04105 TEL: 207-781-5561 FAX: 207-781-8067 MOBILE: 207-831-5829 PAGE: 2078315...@vtext.com AOLIM: OzCom1 ICQ: 206889374 aosg...@streamline-solutions.net Blog: http://streamlinesolutionsllc.blogspot.com/ http://www.streamline-solutions.net http://www.WMDaWARe.com Introducing Efficiency to Business since 1986. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Colocation
I would like to offer a customer rackspace at my office. Two 2U servers with UPS provided by customer and put in our rack. Managed by us. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Colocation
I guess I should have finished with how do you price such a thing. I would like to offer a customer rackspace at my office. Two 2U servers with UPS provided by customer and put in our rack. Managed by us. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Multiple hotspots on one MT router
We have a special event coming to town and I want to provide Hotspot access for them. I already have a hotspot setup for users around town. I want to setup a second hotspot with custom pages for the event users. Can I have separate HTML? Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Lost routes...
Only losing the route to the client that is created by OSPF/PPPoE. I am running the latest Firmware and have tried 2.9.51 but went back to 50 as that is what is sy=table on the others. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 10:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Lost routes... Your prolly loosing the default route. This was in one of the release notes a while back but if you update the OS and firmware on the 2.9 stuff your problem should go away. Jim Mark McElvy wrote: I am running 5 MT AP's, 2 are 3.x and 3 are 2.9.50, all are running OSPF and PPPoE. Clients are mostly Tranzeo CPQ and SL2 with a few Ubiquity NS2. On only ONE of the 2.9 AP's, I randomly loose the route to the customer. The log will show a PPPoE disconnect, the route will go away, but the PPPoE session will still show in the active connections window. If I disconnect the active session the client will reconnect. Any thoughts? Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Lost routes...
First there are only 6 clients on this AP. All are Tranzeo except one, it has been rock solid. Most of the time it is one particular client that I see this with but it happens with others as well. I replaced the radio on the one client to see if it help but it did not. I believe it to be issue with the AP. Log shows disconnect, OSPF route to client disappears but the PPPoE session stays. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 10:52 AM To: WISPA General List Cc: mikro...@part-15.org; mikro...@mail.butchevans.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Lost routes... you could have two problems: 1) you are loosing the default routes 2) the PPPoE client is not working. I tested Ubiquiti NS5 PPPoE client and it looks like it does not work with mikrotik AP PPPoE. So if the Ubiquiti NS is loosing the PPPoE session, you will have the client locked, the AP will see an hanging connection and the route could disappear. Not sure which one is the worst problem. Try to upgrade to a newer mikrotik routeros and see if the OSPF improves. If the problem is #2 then I am not sure how to solve, I did not test latest versions of UBIQUITI, you could give it a try. I did not want to implement mixed PPPoE because in our testing environment I saw PPPoE not working (I cannot say who is wrong, the client or the AP, but both mikrotik works) Try to swap a mikrotik routeros with the UBIQUITI and see what happens. Please let us know! Just my 2 cents. I am running 5 MT AP's, 2 are 3.x and 3 are 2.9.50, all are running OSPF and PPPoE. Clients are mostly Tranzeo CPQ and SL2 with a few Ubiquity NS2. On only ONE of the 2.9 AP's, I randomly loose the route to the customer. The log will show a PPPoE disconnect, the route will go away, but the PPPoE session will still show in the active connections window. If I disconnect the active session the client will reconnect. Any thoughts? Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Teleinform S.p.A. Sede Legale: Via Francesco Paolo Di Blasi 1, 90144 Palermo Unita' Operativa: Via Regione Siciliana 49, 90046 Monreale Tel: +39-091-6408576, +39-091-6404501 Fax: +39-091-6406200 http://www.wikitel.it http://www.teleinform.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] National Map - NEED HELP
I am downloading it now... Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brian Webster Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 1:21 PM To: WISPA List; memb...@wispa.org; Motorola Canopy List Subject: [WISPA] National Map - NEED HELP The map is progressing and the data is coming in faster than ever. I'm keeping up but having an issue with trying to compute the demographics. I need to download a bunch of Census GIS data and I either get timed out or run out of hours in the day to complete the task. Can I get a volunteer to download everything in the following directories and burn them to disk and send them to me? ftp://ftp2.census.gov/geo/tiger/tiger2k/ ftp://ftp2.census.gov/census_2000/datasets/Summary_File_1/ ftp://ftp2.census.gov/census_2000/datasets/Summary_File_3/ Thank You, Brian Webster 214 Eggleston Hill Rd. Cooperstown, NY 13326 www.wirelessmapping.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Lost routes...
Any known issue taking a RB532 (not 532A) to 3.x? Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 1:55 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Lost routes... I had the issue myself with loosing default routes using OSPF. The issue happened between 3.x routers and 2.9 routers. When I updated all to 3.11 the problem went away just as MT told me it would. If you look through the changelog you will find a pile of OSPF fixes in 3.x. I am running 3.20 fireware 2.19 now and not having any issues. I would try updating to 3.20. Jim Mark McElvy wrote: Only losing the route to the client that is created by OSPF/PPPoE. I am running the latest Firmware and have tried 2.9.51 but went back to 50 as that is what is sy=table on the others. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 10:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Lost routes... Your prolly loosing the default route. This was in one of the release notes a while back but if you update the OS and firmware on the 2.9 stuff your problem should go away. Jim Mark McElvy wrote: I am running 5 MT AP's, 2 are 3.x and 3 are 2.9.50, all are running OSPF and PPPoE. Clients are mostly Tranzeo CPQ and SL2 with a few Ubiquity NS2. On only ONE of the 2.9 AP's, I randomly loose the route to the customer. The log will show a PPPoE disconnect, the route will go away, but the PPPoE session will still show in the active connections window. If I disconnect the active session the client will reconnect. Any thoughts? Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Lost routes...
Can I go straight from 2.9.50 to 3.20? Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 2:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Lost routes... I'm running 3.20 on a few older 532 boards without issues. Jim Mark McElvy wrote: Any known issue taking a RB532 (not 532A) to 3.x? Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 1:55 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Lost routes... I had the issue myself with loosing default routes using OSPF. The issue happened between 3.x routers and 2.9 routers. When I updated all to 3.11 the problem went away just as MT told me it would. If you look through the changelog you will find a pile of OSPF fixes in 3.x. I am running 3.20 fireware 2.19 now and not having any issues. I would try updating to 3.20. Jim Mark McElvy wrote: Only losing the route to the client that is created by OSPF/PPPoE. I am running the latest Firmware and have tried 2.9.51 but went back to 50 as that is what is sy=table on the others. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 10:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Lost routes... Your prolly loosing the default route. This was in one of the release notes a while back but if you update the OS and firmware on the 2.9 stuff your problem should go away. Jim Mark McElvy wrote: I am running 5 MT AP's, 2 are 3.x and 3 are 2.9.50, all are running OSPF and PPPoE. Clients are mostly Tranzeo CPQ and SL2 with a few Ubiquity NS2. On only ONE of the 2.9 AP's, I randomly loose the route to the customer. The log will show a PPPoE disconnect, the route will go away, but the PPPoE session will still show in the active connections window. If I disconnect the active session the client will reconnect. Any thoughts? Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
[WISPA] Lost routes...
I am running 5 MT AP's, 2 are 3.x and 3 are 2.9.50, all are running OSPF and PPPoE. Clients are mostly Tranzeo CPQ and SL2 with a few Ubiquity NS2. On only ONE of the 2.9 AP's, I randomly loose the route to the customer. The log will show a PPPoE disconnect, the route will go away, but the PPPoE session will still show in the active connections window. If I disconnect the active session the client will reconnect. Any thoughts? Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)
I have the pipe type on one of my water towers, where do you get and what do you call the device to connect to it? Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scottie Arnett Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 12:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident) They use that type safety(pipe with notches) on most water tanks in my area. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: Chuck McCown - 3 ch...@beehive.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 13:01:50 -0700 No but you could fall down and get so tangled up the rescue would be difficult. I have climbed caged ladders that had a pipe up the center of the ladder with small ratchet notches in it. The arrester device was a pipe looking thing that would slide up the safety pipe/rail. It had a spring loaded dog that would engage the notches if you fell. I thought it was a pretty good system. - Original Message - From: 3-dB Networks wi...@3-db.net To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident) That's what the safety cage is for. if you fall basically you should only be leaning back on the cage. You technically shouldn't be able to fall with a safety cage. Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident) What happens when you fall? Brian John Valenti wrote: Brian, Why would you want to add a safety cable to the cage? I'm on several legs with the cages and they seem great. I usually just lean back to take a break while climbing. It seems like an unnecessary bother, and something else to get in the way while climbing the ladder. Just curious what your thinking is, maybe I'm missing something. -John On Jan 6, 2009, at 9:20 PM, Brian Rohrbacher wrote: I have seriously thought about putting a cable going up the center of the ladders on all the elevator legs we're on. There is already one on the leg that has no cage. Then we could clip on a go, with either a belt or a light harness (unlike my big sit down elk river harness that is a little heavy). Anyone run these cable before? What is needed? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth
ShowMe Power -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:06 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth If you let me know who that carrier is, I can help you out. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 5:18 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth I am in Salem, MO but I have Fibre to my office. My Fibre carrier has POP's in Rolla and St Louis so if I can find some cheap bandwidth they can transport for me. Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 4:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth Mark McElvy wrote: I am looking for wholesale bandwidth providers to either St Louis or Rolla Missouri. Do you need it delivered to your door, or just somewhere in town? Saint Louis has a couple downtown telco-hotel facilities (900 Walnut and 210 Tucker, I think); you should be able to rent rack space and get basically as much connectivity as you want there. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] eratic ethernet connection
I have a new WAN connection, it is a Long range Ethernet connection. It is being connected to a RB532 Mikrotik v2.9.46 router. When I do bandwidth tests through this connection, it is very erratic. If I connect the circuit directly to a PC I get a nice smooth throughput. I also tried connecting the circuit to a switch then to the MT with the same result. This occurs on two different routers. I have tried different Ethernet port settings, the LRE adapter is set to 10 Full. Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues
My closest tower to this one is 14 miles. We are fairly rural. Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 8:52 AM To: lakel...@gbcx.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues Try changing channels too. Water *usually* give strange signal levels Looks more like interference to me. Very possibly from some of your own towers??? marlon - Original Message - From: lakel...@gbcx.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues Water in connectors. When it freezes it crystalizes and gives a poor connection. Maybe a cracked/broken antenna with moisture incursion. Antennas on towers are subject to falling ice regardless of the type of antenna. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:58:25 To: mikro...@mail.butchevans.com; wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues I have 4 tower locations, only one seems to be having issues. Last week, then today I have a few customers on one tower having slow connection issues. High ping times from less than 1 ms to 4-500ms with packet loss. The one complaining customer has a -56 @ client end and -60 @ AP. The common denominator is weather, it is currently about 10 deg F and we had some, not a lot of freezing rain last night. This tower is running a RB 433 w/ XR2 and HPol omni. New in spring due to lightning storm. The only time I experienced issues last year was with heavy icing. Any thought? Would you think it's the ice or maybe freezing moisture in the enclosure? Mark in South central Missouri WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] wholesale bandwidth
I am looking for wholesale bandwidth providers to either St Louis or Rolla Missouri. Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth
I am in Salem, MO but I have Fibre to my office. My Fibre carrier has POP's in Rolla and St Louis so if I can find some cheap bandwidth they can transport for me. Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 4:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth Mark McElvy wrote: I am looking for wholesale bandwidth providers to either St Louis or Rolla Missouri. Do you need it delivered to your door, or just somewhere in town? Saint Louis has a couple downtown telco-hotel facilities (900 Walnut and 210 Tucker, I think); you should be able to rent rack space and get basically as much connectivity as you want there. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Winter connectivity issues
I have 4 tower locations, only one seems to be having issues. Last week, then today I have a few customers on one tower having slow connection issues. High ping times from less than 1 ms to 4-500ms with packet loss. The one complaining customer has a -56 @ client end and -60 @ AP. The common denominator is weather, it is currently about 10 deg F and we had some, not a lot of freezing rain last night. This tower is running a RB 433 w/ XR2 and HPol omni. New in spring due to lightning storm. The only time I experienced issues last year was with heavy icing. Any thought? Would you think it's the ice or maybe freezing moisture in the enclosure? Mark in South central Missouri WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues
The ones that seem to have issues are close and LOS the further ones seem to be ok. Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 3:45 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues Are any of your links not line of sight? I have to back off power on some of my clients because in the summer they are fine but in the winter when the leaves fall off I get a lot of multi-path which causes poor performance. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 2:58 PM To: mikro...@mail.butchevans.com; wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues I have 4 tower locations, only one seems to be having issues. Last week, then today I have a few customers on one tower having slow connection issues. High ping times from less than 1 ms to 4-500ms with packet loss. The one complaining customer has a -56 @ client end and -60 @ AP. The common denominator is weather, it is currently about 10 deg F and we had some, not a lot of freezing rain last night. This tower is running a RB 433 w/ XR2 and HPol omni. New in spring due to lightning storm. The only time I experienced issues last year was with heavy icing. Any thought? Would you think it's the ice or maybe freezing moisture in the enclosure? Mark in South central Missouri WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues
Signal levels are stable. Ping times are erratic and Customers complain of slow internet. PPPoE will not stay connected. Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 5:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues In my experience water in the connector makes the RSSI drop from mid -60s to -90s Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote: The ones that seem to have issues are close and LOS the further ones seem to be ok. Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 3:45 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues Are any of your links not line of sight? I have to back off power on some of my clients because in the summer they are fine but in the winter when the leaves fall off I get a lot of multi-path which causes poor performance. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 2:58 PM To: mikro...@mail.butchevans.com; wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues I have 4 tower locations, only one seems to be having issues. Last week, then today I have a few customers on one tower having slow connection issues. High ping times from less than 1 ms to 4-500ms with packet loss. The one complaining customer has a -56 @ client end and -60 @ AP. The common denominator is weather, it is currently about 10 deg F and we had some, not a lot of freezing rain last night. This tower is running a RB 433 w/ XR2 and HPol omni. New in spring due to lightning storm. The only time I experienced issues last year was with heavy icing. Any thought? Would you think it's the ice or maybe freezing moisture in the enclosure? Mark in South central Missouri WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] Winter connectivity issues
12, all Tranzeo CPQ except one. Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 6:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] Winter connectivity issues Multiple CPEs on the same AP? On 12/15/08, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote: Signal levels are stable. Ping times are erratic and Customers complain of slow internet. PPPoE will not stay connected. Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 5:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues In my experience water in the connector makes the RSSI drop from mid -60s to -90s Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote: The ones that seem to have issues are close and LOS the further ones seem to be ok. Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 3:45 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues Are any of your links not line of sight? I have to back off power on some of my clients because in the summer they are fine but in the winter when the leaves fall off I get a lot of multi-path which causes poor performance. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 2:58 PM To: mikro...@mail.butchevans.com; wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues I have 4 tower locations, only one seems to be having issues. Last week, then today I have a few customers on one tower having slow connection issues. High ping times from less than 1 ms to 4-500ms with packet loss. The one complaining customer has a -56 @ client end and -60 @ AP. The common denominator is weather, it is currently about 10 deg F and we had some, not a lot of freezing rain last night. This tower is running a RB 433 w/ XR2 and HPol omni. New in spring due to lightning storm. The only time I experienced issues last year was with heavy icing. Any thought? Would you think it's the ice or maybe freezing moisture in the enclosure? Mark in South central Missouri WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer
Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] Winter connectivity issues
There are 12 clients total on the AP -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 7:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] Winter connectivity issues All of the CPEs on that one AP? Or all of the Tranzeo CPEs on that AP? On 12/15/08, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote: 12, all Tranzeo CPQ except one. Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 6:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] Winter connectivity issues Multiple CPEs on the same AP? On 12/15/08, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote: Signal levels are stable. Ping times are erratic and Customers complain of slow internet. PPPoE will not stay connected. Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 5:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues In my experience water in the connector makes the RSSI drop from mid -60s to -90s Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote: The ones that seem to have issues are close and LOS the further ones seem to be ok. Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 3:45 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues Are any of your links not line of sight? I have to back off power on some of my clients because in the summer they are fine but in the winter when the leaves fall off I get a lot of multi-path which causes poor performance. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 2:58 PM To: mikro...@mail.butchevans.com; wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues I have 4 tower locations, only one seems to be having issues. Last week, then today I have a few customers on one tower having slow connection issues. High ping times from less than 1 ms to 4-500ms with packet loss. The one complaining customer has a -56 @ client end and -60 @ AP. The common denominator is weather, it is currently about 10 deg F and we had some, not a lot of freezing rain last night. This tower is running a RB 433 w/ XR2 and HPol omni. New in spring due to lightning storm. The only time I experienced issues last year was with heavy icing. Any thought? Would you think it's the ice or maybe freezing moisture in the enclosure? Mark in South central Missouri WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA
Re: [WISPA] Tool to find out if you might have whitespacesspectrumavailable in your area.
Did that. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. 573.729.9200 -Original Message- From: Jeff Broadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 20:38 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tool to find out if you might have whitespacesspectrumavailable in your area. You have to go in and check all or some of the channels. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 3:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tool to find out if you might have white spacesspectrumavailable in your area. I guess I am missing something, no matter where I look I see no contour lines. Mark McElvy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Webster Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 9:28 PM To: WISPA List Cc: Stephen Coran Subject: [WISPA] Tool to find out if you might have white spaces spectrumavailable in your area. Ok, so the static image maps I have been creating do not show an accurate picture channel by channel of the available white space spectrum. I decided that I would create a tool that all WISP's could use right now and get a good idea of how their own markets may be affected by white space spectrum being released. I used my GIS tools to create data layers channel by channel. From that I exported the results to a Google Earth file. (It's a large one, sorry the file size is large for list distribution, I compressed it as much as possible) Here is how you can use this. Open the file in Google Earth and you will see the folders specified by TV channel number. Zoom to your area of interest. Click on a channel and see if any contours show up in you desired coverage area. If they don't great, but you still need to check adjacent channels. You would do this by checking the boxes for the channel above and below the one you want to use. If no contours from those channels touch your desired area, you have a clean channel for potential use. This will all depend of course on how the final FCC rules are developed. DISCLAIMERS This mapping data was current as of 7-28-08 and only shows what I could best determine as digital channels. This is my best guess as to what will be on the air after the February 2009 cutover date and is by no means the final word. Things could change between now and then and some of these contours could change. This also does not show any current analog stations. There are some provisions for low power and translator stations to stay on the air in analog form and/or move channels after the cutover. This is pretty accurate but I'm not a Broadcast industry expert. Some of the digital stations might be temporary or for testing. I haven't had the time to look in to all the codes from the FCC database to weed that type of stuff out. You can download a free version of Google Earth at http://earth.google.com Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tool to find out if you might have white spaces spectrumavailable in your area.
I guess I am missing something, no matter where I look I see no contour lines. Mark McElvy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Webster Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 9:28 PM To: WISPA List Cc: Stephen Coran Subject: [WISPA] Tool to find out if you might have white spaces spectrumavailable in your area. Ok, so the static image maps I have been creating do not show an accurate picture channel by channel of the available white space spectrum. I decided that I would create a tool that all WISP's could use right now and get a good idea of how their own markets may be affected by white space spectrum being released. I used my GIS tools to create data layers channel by channel. From that I exported the results to a Google Earth file. (It's a large one, sorry the file size is large for list distribution, I compressed it as much as possible) Here is how you can use this. Open the file in Google Earth and you will see the folders specified by TV channel number. Zoom to your area of interest. Click on a channel and see if any contours show up in you desired coverage area. If they don't great, but you still need to check adjacent channels. You would do this by checking the boxes for the channel above and below the one you want to use. If no contours from those channels touch your desired area, you have a clean channel for potential use. This will all depend of course on how the final FCC rules are developed. DISCLAIMERS This mapping data was current as of 7-28-08 and only shows what I could best determine as digital channels. This is my best guess as to what will be on the air after the February 2009 cutover date and is by no means the final word. Things could change between now and then and some of these contours could change. This also does not show any current analog stations. There are some provisions for low power and translator stations to stay on the air in analog form and/or move channels after the cutover. This is pretty accurate but I'm not a Broadcast industry expert. Some of the digital stations might be temporary or for testing. I haven't had the time to look in to all the codes from the FCC database to weed that type of stuff out. You can download a free version of Google Earth at http://earth.google.com Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Spammers or not?
I sorry, but by your definition ALL email is spam if you did not specifically ask for it. If I emailed you directly I would be spamming you unless I called and asked first. Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Dowling Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 2:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Spammers or not? The definition of spam is an unsolicited e-mail. Obviously we didn't ask you to sendus the request so it was an unsolicited e-mail. Just because you politely ask to send spam doesn't make it right. On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 22 Oct 2008, Paul Dowling wrote: I was pissed when Butch Evans sent his spam from the list. You click a link to unsubscribe, then they send you another e-mail to verify your unsubscription and you have to return the e-mail or click on a link. Double opt-out?!?!?! I just blocked his whole domain in our spam filter for the entire network. There was no spam sent. In fact, the original message was intended to ask your permission to do so. The unsubscribe is normal for a mailman list. It is not double opt-out at all. It is a confirmation message. The reason I configured it that way was so that you could be certain you were no longer subscribed. -- *Butch Evans*Professional Network Consultation * *Network Engineering*MikroTik RouterOS * *573-276-2879 *ImageStream * *http://www.butchevans.com/ *StarOS and MORE * *http://blog.butchevans.com/*Wired or wireless Networks* *http://www.wisp-forums.com/*http://www.wisp-wiki.com/ *Mikrotik Certified Consultant *Professional Technical Trainer* WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] reduced signals
I have a site running a MT BH and AP. The BH is a RB411/sr5/rootennae and the AP is a RB433/XR2/9db omni w/ v3.10. This setup has been up and running about 6 months. Last Tuesday we had thunder storms run through and I woke uo tp a dead tower. Turned out that the BH power supply died, great, easy fix. Get back to the office and realize not all customers are reconnecting. The send and receive signals are down at least 15db. Replaced radios with no change. Realized that we ended up with two glass tube lightning arresters, one near antennae and the other next to radio. Pulled the one near antennae and everything seemed back to normal. Well Saturday morning I was checking things out and its back to the reduced signals. I am at a loss as to what to do. Since Tuesday we have had clear skys, cool temps at night and lots of dew. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Testing radio cards
Is there a good way to test how a radio card is performing? I have several mini-PCI radios, XR2, CM-9, etc, that I need to determine if they are performing to specification. They are in the office on the bench. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] OT - DSL Modem recomendation
Just wondering if there are others doing DSL along with their wireless? Would like a product recommendation and source. Thanks Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT - DSL Modem recomendation
Well actually was referring to a DSL modem recommendation... Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 2:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT - DSL Modem recomendation Yes. We use IAKNO wholesale DSL. They have been great. __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 12:33 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] OT - DSL Modem recomendation Just wondering if there are others doing DSL along with their wireless? Would like a product recommendation and source. Thanks Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT - DSL Modem recomendation
End user DSL modem recommendation. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 3:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT - DSL Modem recomendation Just modems or dslams? Randy Mark McElvy wrote: Well actually was referring to a DSL modem recommendation... Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 2:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT - DSL Modem recomendation Yes. We use IAKNO wholesale DSL. They have been great. __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 12:33 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] OT - DSL Modem recomendation Just wondering if there are others doing DSL along with their wireless? Would like a product recommendation and source. Thanks Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc office: 435-773-6071 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT - DSL Modem recomendation
Well we are looking at wholesaling through Socket. We are mainly in Embarq territory. I there a better way to go? Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Wyble Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 3:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT - DSL Modem recomendation Mark McElvy wrote: End user DSL modem recommendation. Hmmm.. What are you using as your DSLAM? Generally you want to pair a similar brand. Can you tell us a bit more about your service and architecture? DSL is ridiculously complex. I have been researching it extensively and ATM alone is enough to make one swear off networking and use smoke signals. :) -- Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059 http://charlesnw.blogspot.com CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Weird signal levels
We had another electrical storm last night. One of my AP's is acting weird. It is still running but the receive signals are up in the high 80's and low 90's now instead of 60's and 70's. They are also kinda bouncing 20db. I am on this tower at my house and could not connect last night or this morning but now I am at my office and see that my radio at home has connected. I at first thought the lightening deafened my radio but I am kinda thinkin moisture now. Thoughts? Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Weird signal levels
But why would it be getting better? Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 3:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Weird signal levels The radio is blown due to static electricity, at least that's my guess. Replace the AP (or just the radio card depending on what your AP is) and it should be fixed. Travis Microserv Mark McElvy wrote: We had another electrical storm last night. One of my AP's is acting weird. It is still running but the receive signals are up in the high 80's and low 90's now instead of 60's and 70's. They are also kinda bouncing 20db. I am on this tower at my house and could not connect last night or this morning but now I am at my office and see that my radio at home has connected. I at first thought the lightening deafened my radio but I am kinda thinkin moisture now. Thoughts? Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Gotta love lighting....
I have lost three towers in the last two days. I got one back this morning and may be able to get a second up this afternoon if it will quit raining. The third tower I need some equipment for. I am in central Missouri, near Rolla, and need RB532 or equivalent, an XR2, and a Tranzeo TR5a-24. If anyone can help that is close by, 4to 5 hr drive, please call. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. 573.247.9980 - Mobile WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FW: [WISP] Internet Monitor - new release posted
When run on Vista, it does not pick up the default gateway and under Vista and XP Pro it does not pickup the Subnet mask. Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Yunker Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 4:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] FW: [WISP] Internet Monitor - new release posted Just a quick note: I posted a new release of the Internet Monitor software today. (v. 1.0.0.17) It's available at http://www.wispadvantage.com/html/custom_software.html I addressed a few bugs and improved the stability of the speed test features in this release. I also made significant changes to the email-report mechanism. It now generates a nice XML file when sending the test results back to the ISP. I'm getting close to having an automated method for checking-for and downloading-updates, but without more testing, I'm not ready to deploy that code quite yet. Hopefully I'll have it within the next week. Regards, Larry Yunker Network Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FW: [WISP] Internet Monitor - new release posted
The Vista machine has two physical, Wireless and wired, XP just one. On both the sm is 0.0.0.0 and on Vista the gateway shows the same. Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Yunker Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 8:32 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] FW: [WISP] Internet Monitor - new release posted Two questions: 1) How many network interfaces do you have running on your Vista and your XP Pro machines respectively 2) What does the software display for the default gateway and Subnet mask? Thanks, Larry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 8:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FW: [WISP] Internet Monitor - new release posted When run on Vista, it does not pick up the default gateway and under Vista and XP Pro it does not pickup the Subnet mask. Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Yunker Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 4:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] FW: [WISP] Internet Monitor - new release posted Just a quick note: I posted a new release of the Internet Monitor software today. (v. 1.0.0.17) It's available at http://www.wispadvantage.com/html/custom_software.html I addressed a few bugs and improved the stability of the speed test features in this release. I also made significant changes to the email-report mechanism. It now generates a nice XML file when sending the test results back to the ISP. I'm getting close to having an automated method for checking-for and downloading-updates, but without more testing, I'm not ready to deploy that code quite yet. Hopefully I'll have it within the next week. Regards, Larry Yunker Network Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/