I keep reading what everyone is saying about government and
insurance, but I don't really believe you. Most of you say that you are
against the government getting involved in health care, that it is a
Socialist idea. What I haven't heard is any of you saying you wanted to stop
Medicare or Social Security or shut down the VA hospitals. Why not? These
are Socialist programs. These are Government run programs with no choice to
purchase it from the private market. Why haven't you said to stop those
programs? You say you believe in the Free Market, but I do not see you
asking to stop regulating electricity, or natural gas. Only if we let these
companies truly charge whatever they wanted to would it be a free market.
Most of you claim to be Christians, but you do not really believe what you
preach. A true Christian always wants to help those that are less fortunate
than yourself. Well I believe that includes health care. Or does it mean you
can pick and choose who should be helped and who shouldn't. Yes, I have had
insurance almost my whole life. Some was paid for by my employer, some has
been paid for by myself. What I have seen is premiums go up every year.
However, the health of this nation ranks in the 30's among other nations. We
live 3-7 years less than countries with health care. Does that mean National
Health Care will be perfect? I do not think so. That would be like me asking
you if your Wireless was up 100% of the time. You would have to either say
no, or lie to me. I do not believe there is such a thing as perfect, but if
you never try to achieve perfection, you sure as hell will never come close
to reaching it. I also notice how everyone seems to know how the government
will run Health Care and what is being done wrong. How do you know these
things when there is not even a completed bill in the Senate yet? Last I
knew, they were still debating what should and what shouldn't be a part of
it. Some say we should throw the bill in the Senate away, and start over.
Maybe they should have been there when it started. These are the congressmen
you should be pissed at. They elected not to participate in the beginning,
and now want to cry foul and ask to start over. These are just my two cents
on the subject, and because you are still in America, you have the right to
disagree, not read this at all and delete it, or respond. Well, I guess if
you have read the last line, you now only have two choices left, hurry and
decide before there is only one left.
Owen Harrell
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Paul C Diem
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 1:26 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance
Yup, in the past century, America stopped being the land of opportunity and
became the land of guarantees.
Paul C Diem
pcd...@foxvalley.net
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 7:39 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance
Oh boy, here we go.
Even more important is water and food. How about electricity,
transportation, entertainment etc. etc. etc.
NOTHING is a basic human right past opportunity. The CHANCE to make our
own direction is all that God has given us.
marlon
- Original Message -
From: "David E. Smith"
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 18:06, RickG wrote:
>
>> Someone posted earlier that the health insurance industry is not
>> truly
>> run
>> in a "free market". It's "failure" is exactly due to this. Even after all
>> the government rules and regulations, who in the USA does not have
>> "access"
>> to health care?
>>
>
> I suppose we're taking fundamentally different approaches to the issue
> of health care. I don't see it as one that can (or should) be solved
> by the free market - as far as I'm concerned, it's a fundamental human
> right. No person, anywhere on this planet, should have to worry about
> things like "money" when it comes to basic health and wellness. The
> fact that even one American (or anyone else really, but this is a
> US-centric list) doesn't, in my mind represents a deep-rooted failure
> of the free market, and of basic human kindness and compassion.
>
> David Smith
> MVN.net
>
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