[WISPA] What's the deal with Trango?
Has anyone else heard that Trango is End-of-Life ing all of their PtMP products? No more production after on hand supplies run out WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Anyone servicing Laramie Wy.
Have a lead in the area Pat Nix pni...@csweb.net csweb.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] VOIP Adapter for digital PBX over wireless
Any suggestions for a reliable inexpensive point to point voip adapter that will carry a digital phone extension across wireless to a remote office. Here's the scenario: A manufacturing environment needs to extend a phone extension out to a guard shack. The wireless network is already in place, and they are currently extending an analog extension there using multitech voip gateway. Any suggestions for exchanging this for something that will handle digital Thanks Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net http://www.csweb.net/ E-Mail: pni...@csweb.net mailto:pni...@csweb.net ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] VOIP Adapter for digital PBX over wireless
What we are looking for is not really a converter, but an adapter that just extends one extension out of say a punch block over wireless to a remote office. So that they could plug in one of their digital phones into it and have a live extension. Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net E-Mail: pni...@csweb.net ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of lakel...@gbcx.net Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 9:21 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] VOIP Adapter for digital PBX over wireless Usually the phone guy has to install a interface board to give analog OPX in the PBX. Each system is proprientary so there is no after market converter that is universal that I know of. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Patrick Nix Jr. pni...@cnetworksolutions.com Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 09:11:10 To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] VOIP Adapter for digital PBX over wireless Any suggestions for a reliable inexpensive point to point voip adapter that will carry a digital phone extension across wireless to a remote office. Here's the scenario: A manufacturing environment needs to extend a phone extension out to a guard shack. The wireless network is already in place, and they are currently extending an analog extension there using multitech voip gateway. Any suggestions for exchanging this for something that will handle digital Thanks Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net http://www.csweb.net/ E-Mail: pni...@csweb.net mailto:pni...@csweb.net ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] VOIP Adapter for digital PBX over wireless
FYI, it looks like a company named CITEL has a product that works for this type of application. Only for specific Phone systems though. The one we're looking at is for Avaya. Model is E4100-SUC02 and E4100-RUC Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net E-Mail: pni...@csweb.net ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 11:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] VOIP Adapter for digital PBX over wireless This is not supported. For this to work the interface would have to be capable of replicating all the digital PBX signals from end to end (digital phone to PBX port). Currently only analog PSTN replication is supported or pure VoIP. Digital PBX systems (non-VoIP) do not fall under either category. The closest you can do to replicate this functionality is to use a single line analog station port from a PBX to allow for star codes and such to be forwarded through a standard PSTN single line phone back to the PBX. To do what you are requesting using a PBX digital phone would require a new interface design that has not been built. This is likely possible if you want it bad enough. There may even be a market for such an interface. The maker of the digital PBX may even be willing to work with you on such functionality if they have enough call for this themselves. When you find your solution please share. I have struggled with how best to tie into my old PBX also and welcome feedback and how you skin this cat. I will likely build a complete new VoIP based PBX to solve it on my end. I have been wanting to learn more about VoIP anyway and this just seems to be the best way to do it. Nothing like eating your own dog food if you want to learn something! :-) Scriv On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Patrick Nix Jr. pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: What we are looking for is not really a converter, but an adapter that just extends one extension out of say a punch block over wireless to a remote office. So that they could plug in one of their digital phones into it and have a live extension. Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net E-Mail: pni...@csweb.net ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of lakel...@gbcx.net Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 9:21 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] VOIP Adapter for digital PBX over wireless Usually the phone guy has to install a interface board to give analog OPX in the PBX. Each system is proprientary so there is no after market converter that is universal that I know of. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Patrick Nix Jr. pni...@cnetworksolutions.com Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 09:11:10 To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] VOIP Adapter for digital PBX over wireless Any suggestions for a reliable inexpensive point to point voip adapter that will carry a digital phone extension across wireless to a remote office. Here's the scenario: A manufacturing environment needs to extend a phone extension out to a guard shack. The wireless network is already in place, and they are currently extending an analog extension there using multitech voip gateway. Any suggestions for exchanging this for something that will handle digital Thanks Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net http://www.csweb.net/ E-Mail: pni...@csweb.net mailto:pni...@csweb.net ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail
[WISPA] Suggestions on preventing network flooding
Everyday we seem to have this problem, we can watch our pings and for the morning our avg ping time will be about 27ms to our customers. And then it will just start climbing up to 1000ms and stay there most of the time for hours. I can't seem to identify where it is coming from although it must be coming from our customers, because I can set here at the head end and still ping google at 60ms consistently while this is going on. When it happens the network slows down to the point of being unusable. Any suggestions. Below is an example of yesterday. Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net http://www.csweb.net/ E-Mail: pni...@csweb.net ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. image001.gif WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Suggestions on preventing network flooding
Are there firewall rules that can be instated at the core router (we are using Powercode w/ imagestream rebel router) that will detect and block malicious traffic so that it does not bring the network down? What does everyone generally do to prevent this sort of problem. __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net E-Mail: pni...@csweb.net ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions on preventing network flooding You'll have to go from your topology...work your way out starting at the head end. On 2/18/09, Patrick Nix Jr. pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: Everyday we seem to have this problem, we can watch our pings and for the morning our avg ping time will be about 27ms to our customers. And then it will just start climbing up to 1000ms and stay there most of the time for hours. I can't seem to identify where it is coming from although it must be coming from our customers, because I can set here at the head end and still ping google at 60ms consistently while this is going on. When it happens the network slows down to the point of being unusable. Any suggestions. Below is an example of yesterday. Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net http://www.csweb.net/ E-Mail: pni...@csweb.net ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Suggestions on preventing network flooding
Right, I'm routing already to my customers. I just can't seem to identify where the flood of traffic is coming from. My guess is that someone is using some sort of p2p and opening gazillions of connections for either upload or download traffic or someone has a virus that is flooding the network with a bunch of small packets. I've tried to setup some iptables rules in our imagestream to prevent both of these but I am a newbie with iptables and I either end up killing all internet traffic to everyone or it has no effect at all. Does anyone care to share some suggestions for iptables rules using Powercode with an imagestream router. Thanks a million. __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net E-Mail: pni...@csweb.net ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 10:33 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions on preventing network flooding Routing man. * --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member* *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training/* http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp The information transmitted (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is intended only for the person(s) or entity/entities to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited, If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Patrick Nix Jr. wrote: Everyday we seem to have this problem, we can watch our pings and for the morning our avg ping time will be about 27ms to our customers. And then it will just start climbing up to 1000ms and stay there most of the time for hours. I can't seem to identify where it is coming from although it must be coming from our customers, because I can set here at the head end and still ping google at 60ms consistently while this is going on. When it happens the network slows down to the point of being unusable. Any suggestions. Below is an example of yesterday. Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net http://www.csweb.net/ E-Mail: pni...@csweb.net ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] TCP Flood?
I am having some extreme problems with network flooding. It's coming from within my network. I can manually identify it and kill the connection to that client, but how can I automatically detect and drop these sorts of things. I'm using Powercode along with an imagestream router for all of my network management. I know I should be able to use some iptables rules to accomplish this but they don't seem to work along with Powercode for some reason. Anyone that has this type of configuration that could give me some pointers? Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net http://www.csweb.net/ E-Mail: pni...@csweb.net ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio Recommendations
Trango Broadband 45Mbps P5055M-EXT __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net E-Mail: pni...@csweb.net ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 2:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio Recommendations Andrews Antenna P3F-52-NXA 5.8GHz backhaul radio died today because of a power surge. Old Proxim gear, 2 x T1. I wanted some feedback from vendors/users of what they are using. I need to keep it under $5K if possible. Link distance: 8.3 miles Antennas: Andrews P3F-52-NXA http://www.ubnt.com/products/bullet.php At less then $70 for a 5.x ghz module the price cant be beat. Have a couple on hand to try but no experience with them yet. Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs
For those who may be using Google's branded services for ISPs can someone tell me where to go to find more information and how is it working for you. Currently we are running our email services on an out of production email server that is no longer supported and behind a Barracuda SF for spam protection. It is causing more problems than it's worth. If it were up to me I'd have everyone switch to gmail or something like that but of course people don't like to change their email addresses. Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net http://www.csweb.net/ E-Mail: pni...@csweb.net ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs
So where do you go to sign up? __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net E-Mail: pni...@csweb.net ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 9:54 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs Love it. Couldn't expect a better service. HTTP://goinx.com On 1/6/09, Patrick Nix Jr. pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: For those who may be using Google's branded services for ISPs can someone tell me where to go to find more information and how is it working for you. Currently we are running our email services on an out of production email server that is no longer supported and behind a Barracuda SF for spam protection. It is causing more problems than it's worth. If it were up to me I'd have everyone switch to gmail or something like that but of course people don't like to change their email addresses. Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net http://www.csweb.net/ E-Mail: pni...@csweb.net ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] ATT Cell Band
Anyone know what band ATT uses for cell service? I have a client that needs cell amplifiers put in a 100,000 sqft warehouse they just changed from Nextel to ATT. Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net http://www.csweb.net/ E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Another feather in the hat of providers of unlimited service
ATT to start trialing bit caps. Maybe this will give us some leverage in DSL saturated markets. http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/153301/atandt_trialing_dsl _bandwidth_caps.html __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net http://www.csweb.net/ E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Interference at the neighbors
Just curious, how are you dealing with interference that comes from the neighbor of an existing or potential customer, i.e. you survey a potential's house and see noise level -58 on 900su (rssi being -76) anyway the noise seems to be coming from a neighbor (non-customer) how do you approach the situation? This seems to be an increasing problem for us in the 900mhz __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net http://www.csweb.net/ E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] old utility poles
Anyone using old utility poles for aerial real estate? Our local electric company has agreed to let us have the old extracted poles for $0.20/ft. any suggestions for installing poles and mounting equipment onto them? Lengths are 30-40ft Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net http://www.csweb.net/ E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] old utility poles
Don't know about climbing, we have a bucket truck though, they seem to be in decent shape __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 10:11 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] old utility poles We use them at times. That is a pretty good price if they are in good enough shape to climb. - Original Message - From: Patrick Nix Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:09 AM Subject: [WISPA] old utility poles Anyone using old utility poles for aerial real estate? Our local electric company has agreed to let us have the old extracted poles for $0.20/ft. any suggestions for installing poles and mounting equipment onto them? Lengths are 30-40ft Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net http://www.csweb.net/ E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] frequency converters
What frequency are you wanting to convert? We used 2.4 - 5.8 converters for a backhaul link for several years it was only after lightning took out one radio that we changed it to an actual PtP bridge. Ours was karlnet 2.4 with Orinoco card and 2.4 t0 5.8 converter. Used winncom converters by the way. __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 11:19 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] frequency converters I always appreciate your input, have you tried them? I'd love to hear from someone that has and their experience. -RickG On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 12:20 AM, Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure there is any significant disadvantage. Other than the obvious, such as another point of failure, another connection to add loss, mild loss of energy in the conversion, additional cost. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 10:00 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] frequency converters Mike, Have you tried them? Anyone? -RickG On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 10:51 PM, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Noise? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 9:49 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] frequency converters Whats the downside to using frequency converters? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Employee Tracking Program
Anyone able to get NTop running on vista? __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:19 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Employee Tracking Program Ntop (http://www.ntop.org/) will give you source IP, destination IP, and port. Runs on Linux or Windows. Cisco NetFlow can be combined with a free seat of PRTG and their 250.00 NetFlow plugin. __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Rogers Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 9:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Employee Tracking Program I have a company that would like to track real-time and summary information of internet activity of it's employees (by IP). They are looking for summary information, not email content/instant messenger chats/passwords. What would be ideal would be a passive device that acts like a sniffer that either hits layer 7 and reads the www.xx.com from the data portion of the packets, or just looks at the DNS traffic, tracks IPs and reports it. Maybe even amount of bandwidth spent at each IP... or something of that nature. Any ideas? I have recommended software that is a keylogger and recorder, but they want something that is totally transparent, i.e. sniffer. Thanks, Eric Rogers Precision Data Solutions, LLC (317) 831-3000 x200 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Anyone heard of SBC Satellite
A company named Satellite Broadband Connection just approached us re: offering their product as an alternative to otherwise un-serviceable customers. Is anyone currently partnered with them? How is it going? My complaint is that it is asymmetric using dial-up as the upstream. It doesn't seem to me that it would compete well against wild blue/hughes which offers bi-directional connectivity. One good thing is you supposedly own the customer so that you could switch them out to wireless when/if it becomes available. Pricing is not too bad it seems. www.satellitebc.com Any thoughts? __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] VLan or VPN to multiple points
We already run some VPNs across our network but I am under the impression that VLans may be a little more efficient way of transporting data where the points all reside within our network. Is this true? __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 6:35 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] VLan or VPN to multiple points This is MPLS's bread and butter. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Patrick Nix Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 11:09 AM Subject: [WISPA] VLan or VPN to multiple points Is anyone capitalizing on offering VLan services to companies with multiple sites within your network. We have a couple of opportunities to provide this type of service and wondering the best way to approach it and charge for it Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] VLan or VPN to multiple points
Is anyone capitalizing on offering VLan services to companies with multiple sites within your network. We have a couple of opportunities to provide this type of service and wondering the best way to approach it and charge for it Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server
In another attempt to light the bandwidth load we are going to setup a cache server. Any thoughts or suggestions on which one to use? __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net http://www.csweb.net/ E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server
So is it safer/better to avoid caching servers altogether? __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 1:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server Patrick Nix Jr. wrote: In another attempt to light the bandwidth load we are going to setup a cache server. Any thoughts or suggestions on which one to use? I know this is the popular answer to everything on this list, but Mikrotik RouterOS has a decent, and dead-simple to use, proxy/cache package. The tricky part is probably finding the right place in your network to put it, and configuring firewall rules (so that Web traffic gets sent to the proxy/cache server), and even those aren't too difficult. At least the old one was pretty good - my experience with it was probably four years ago, but at the time it worked well. Between then and now, I believe Mikrotik has written their own (previously it was just the Squid open-source package, with their pretty interface on top). If you're comfortable with Linux, you can do it yourself, but the time you'll save is easily worth the low one-time cost of a RouterOS software license. Whatever you use, make sure you know how to handle exceptions. Some Web sites just don't play well with being proxied. (One of our customers is a dealer for a major auto maker, and the proxy/cache system basically killed their whole business, as the stuff in Detroit just flat refused to function.) You'll want an easy way to test this sort of thing at your desktop, to try to reproduce weird customer calls - and there will be some doozies. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Suggestions for Mikrotik Bandwidth Management
Is there anyone using MT for bandwidth management? We are waiting on our PowerNOC/ Imagestream solution but I need something to get us by until then What are some suggested settings and what kind of toll is it on CPU resources RB532 Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net http://www.csweb.net/ E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for Mikrotik Bandwidth Management
No user authentication radius or otherwise just simply for routing traffic... all I want to do is keep p2p users and other unessential services from chewing up all of our bandwidth currently we have a 6mbs backbone... and usage is topping 90% most of the time... we are upgrading but must do something to keep people calm until it is complete __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 2:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for Mikrotik Bandwidth Management Lots of people do this. Its really up to you on how you wish to do it. You can integrate with a billing solution, or radius server, but if you just wanted to do basic bandwidth management, then a 532 will start. It really depends on how much traffic you are moving and how you are authenticating the users. -- * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services* 314-735-0270 http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp/* Patrick Nix Jr. wrote: Is there anyone using MT for bandwidth management? We are waiting on our PowerNOC/ Imagestream solution but I need something to get us by until then What are some suggested settings and what kind of toll is it on CPU resources RB532 Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net http://www.csweb.net/ E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for Mikrotik Bandwidth Management
Right, but for now we don't have the imagestream all I have that will easily config is the MT I realize this probably isn't a good permanent solution, I just need something to get by for a month or two __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bo Ring Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 3:02 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for Mikrotik Bandwidth Management You can use the Imagestream solo to do this and then not replace anything. It can do packet based bandwidth management with PowerNoc/ PowerCode. On Jul 9, 2008, at 2:12 PM, Patrick Nix Jr. wrote: Is there anyone using MT for bandwidth management? We are waiting on our PowerNOC/ Imagestream solution but I need something to get us by until then What are some suggested settings and what kind of toll is it on CPU resources RB532 Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net http://www.csweb.net/ E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e- mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for Mikrotik Bandwidth Management
What I am wondering is if there is a simple config I could do in about 10-20 min that would help our bandwidth problem, and also we have 3 of these routers OSPF routed should I implement the config on each router or just the edge router Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 3:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for Mikrotik Bandwidth Management It is a great solution. Many ISPs use Mikrotik to do everything, and bandwidth management is one of those! Its a great Permanent solution! If you don't like the 532 as a core router, check into a PowerRouter 732! -- * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services* 314-735-0270 http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp/* Patrick Nix Jr. wrote: Right, but for now we don't have the imagestream all I have that will easily config is the MT I realize this probably isn't a good permanent solution, I just need something to get by for a month or two __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bo Ring Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 3:02 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for Mikrotik Bandwidth Management You can use the Imagestream solo to do this and then not replace anything. It can do packet based bandwidth management with PowerNoc/ PowerCode. On Jul 9, 2008, at 2:12 PM, Patrick Nix Jr. wrote: Is there anyone using MT for bandwidth management? We are waiting on our PowerNOC/ Imagestream solution but I need something to get us by until then What are some suggested settings and what kind of toll is it on CPU resources RB532 Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net http://www.csweb.net/ E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e- mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org
[WISPA] Customer Service
I'm just curious to get some opinions, how far do you troubleshoot over the phone with a customer before truck roll? Case in point we have a cell that is about 1:45 min from our office one way, we go out yesterday to troubleshoot a connection problem with a single subscriber and after running survey on trango equip we find that a neighbor has some sort of 900Mhz device that is interfering. We would have known that w/o the drive had we had the customer run a survey while troubleshooting on the phone. We have always had a hands off equipment policy but we are thinking it's time to re-evaluate with the cost of fuel etc... What are some others doing in this regard? Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net http://www.csweb.net/ E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Watertower trouble
This seems a good solution for the painting but will it do much for sandblasting? __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (800) 638-2614 http://www.csweb.net E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 2 Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 6:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Watertower trouble Something that will repel water and not absorb any. Tarps will do fine. Visqueen will do even better if it is durable enough. - Original Message - From: Patrick Nix Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Watertower trouble Any other ideas? __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (800) 638-2614 http://www.csweb.net E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 4:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Watertower trouble Burlap is a bad idea if you are going to use the system while it is covered Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Patrick Nix Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 14:37:54 To:WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Watertower trouble We are going in the morning to start covering the equipment on the tower for the rehab, the earlier suggestion of burlap is this a good solution for sandblasting and how will it affect signal on 5.8Ghz link? Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (800) 638-2614 http://www.csweb.net E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Langseth Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 10:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Watertower trouble Good to hear it worked out, make sure to inspect all of the cables after they are done, we had a watertower painted last fall and did not check the cables after they were done. While everything still worked, 6 months later we had water leak into one cable and fry the PoE on a backhaul (on a friday night of course). Ryan Patrick Nix Jr. wrote: Well, I just met with the contractors and we were able to reach an agreement, we just have to sign a damage waiver, and be there to move/remove equipment as needed. I am curious about the suggestion to cover equipment with burlap, how if at all does this affect the signal, also they will be putting a Geo-tarp up, will this affect the signal greatly 900Mhz and 5.8Ghz Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (800) 638-2614 http://www.csweb.net E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 4:46 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Watertower trouble Patrick, Been there, doing that now! We were given 1 week notice that a large water tower was going to be sandblasted and painted in a neighboring community. Which really stinks because the city knew this was going to happen 6 months ago. Luckily we found a tower at a local college where we could move our equipment to in the interim. They expected this to be a 3 month project and we are about 2 months into it now. Alternative solutions are slim to none where you are except bringing in a mobile pig. These mobile
Re: [WISPA] Watertower trouble
We are going in the morning to start covering the equipment on the tower for the rehab, the earlier suggestion of burlap is this a good solution for sandblasting and how will it affect signal on 5.8Ghz link? Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (800) 638-2614 http://www.csweb.net E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Langseth Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 10:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Watertower trouble Good to hear it worked out, make sure to inspect all of the cables after they are done, we had a watertower painted last fall and did not check the cables after they were done. While everything still worked, 6 months later we had water leak into one cable and fry the PoE on a backhaul (on a friday night of course). Ryan Patrick Nix Jr. wrote: Well, I just met with the contractors and we were able to reach an agreement, we just have to sign a damage waiver, and be there to move/remove equipment as needed. I am curious about the suggestion to cover equipment with burlap, how if at all does this affect the signal, also they will be putting a Geo-tarp up, will this affect the signal greatly 900Mhz and 5.8Ghz Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (800) 638-2614 http://www.csweb.net E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 4:46 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Watertower trouble Patrick, Been there, doing that now! We were given 1 week notice that a large water tower was going to be sandblasted and painted in a neighboring community. Which really stinks because the city knew this was going to happen 6 months ago. Luckily we found a tower at a local college where we could move our equipment to in the interim. They expected this to be a 3 month project and we are about 2 months into it now. Alternative solutions are slim to none where you are except bringing in a mobile pig. These mobile towers can usually get up to about 100' but will may be cost prohibitive depending on the revenue on that particular tower. I rented 3 of these towers last summer for a school system from a company in Oklahoma. I googled mobile towers and everything kept pointing to one basic company. I was surprised there were not more scattered around the country. Another option might be to contact the cell phone providers in your area and lease a tower from their fleetalthough that may be a challenge in itself. Rick Harnish -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Nix Jr. Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 3:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Watertower trouble Got a situation... just received a call from the town's water dep't administrator telling me we have to be off of the tower in 3 days due to maintenance on tower. Evidently there is lead in the tower and a contractor is coming in to sandblast and repaint inside and out of the tower, as well as bring it up to safety standards. The problem is this is the only location available in this area to service approx 150 subs, and we received 3 days notice on a project they have evidently been working on for 4-5 months. Anyway has anyone had to work around similar situations and if so how long does this process normally take... they tell me it could be up to 2 months. By that time there will be no one left that will want service. Any thoughts? __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (800) 638-2614 http://www.csweb.net http://www.csweb.net/ E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you
Re: [WISPA] Watertower trouble
Any other ideas? __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (800) 638-2614 http://www.csweb.net E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 4:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Watertower trouble Burlap is a bad idea if you are going to use the system while it is covered Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Patrick Nix Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 14:37:54 To:WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Watertower trouble We are going in the morning to start covering the equipment on the tower for the rehab, the earlier suggestion of burlap is this a good solution for sandblasting and how will it affect signal on 5.8Ghz link? Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (800) 638-2614 http://www.csweb.net E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Langseth Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 10:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Watertower trouble Good to hear it worked out, make sure to inspect all of the cables after they are done, we had a watertower painted last fall and did not check the cables after they were done. While everything still worked, 6 months later we had water leak into one cable and fry the PoE on a backhaul (on a friday night of course). Ryan Patrick Nix Jr. wrote: Well, I just met with the contractors and we were able to reach an agreement, we just have to sign a damage waiver, and be there to move/remove equipment as needed. I am curious about the suggestion to cover equipment with burlap, how if at all does this affect the signal, also they will be putting a Geo-tarp up, will this affect the signal greatly 900Mhz and 5.8Ghz Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (800) 638-2614 http://www.csweb.net E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 4:46 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Watertower trouble Patrick, Been there, doing that now! We were given 1 week notice that a large water tower was going to be sandblasted and painted in a neighboring community. Which really stinks because the city knew this was going to happen 6 months ago. Luckily we found a tower at a local college where we could move our equipment to in the interim. They expected this to be a 3 month project and we are about 2 months into it now. Alternative solutions are slim to none where you are except bringing in a mobile pig. These mobile towers can usually get up to about 100' but will may be cost prohibitive depending on the revenue on that particular tower. I rented 3 of these towers last summer for a school system from a company in Oklahoma. I googled mobile towers and everything kept pointing to one basic company. I was surprised there were not more scattered around the country. Another option might be to contact the cell phone providers in your area and lease a tower from their fleetalthough that may be a challenge in itself. Rick Harnish -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Nix Jr. Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 3:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Watertower trouble Got a situation... just received a call from the town's water dep't administrator telling me we have to be off of the tower in 3 days due to maintenance on tower. Evidently there is lead in the tower and a contractor is coming in to sandblast and repaint inside and out of the tower, as well as bring it up to safety standards. The problem is this is the only
[WISPA] Watertower trouble
Got a situation... just received a call from the town's water dep't administrator telling me we have to be off of the tower in 3 days due to maintenance on tower. Evidently there is lead in the tower and a contractor is coming in to sandblast and repaint inside and out of the tower, as well as bring it up to safety standards. The problem is this is the only location available in this area to service approx 150 subs, and we received 3 days notice on a project they have evidently been working on for 4-5 months. Anyway has anyone had to work around similar situations and if so how long does this process normally take... they tell me it could be up to 2 months. By that time there will be no one left that will want service. Any thoughts? __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (800) 638-2614 http://www.csweb.net http://www.csweb.net/ E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Watertower trouble
Well, I just met with the contractors and we were able to reach an agreement, we just have to sign a damage waiver, and be there to move/remove equipment as needed. I am curious about the suggestion to cover equipment with burlap, how if at all does this affect the signal, also they will be putting a Geo-tarp up, will this affect the signal greatly 900Mhz and 5.8Ghz Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (800) 638-2614 http://www.csweb.net E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 4:46 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Watertower trouble Patrick, Been there, doing that now! We were given 1 week notice that a large water tower was going to be sandblasted and painted in a neighboring community. Which really stinks because the city knew this was going to happen 6 months ago. Luckily we found a tower at a local college where we could move our equipment to in the interim. They expected this to be a 3 month project and we are about 2 months into it now. Alternative solutions are slim to none where you are except bringing in a mobile pig. These mobile towers can usually get up to about 100' but will may be cost prohibitive depending on the revenue on that particular tower. I rented 3 of these towers last summer for a school system from a company in Oklahoma. I googled mobile towers and everything kept pointing to one basic company. I was surprised there were not more scattered around the country. Another option might be to contact the cell phone providers in your area and lease a tower from their fleetalthough that may be a challenge in itself. Rick Harnish -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Nix Jr. Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 3:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Watertower trouble Got a situation... just received a call from the town's water dep't administrator telling me we have to be off of the tower in 3 days due to maintenance on tower. Evidently there is lead in the tower and a contractor is coming in to sandblast and repaint inside and out of the tower, as well as bring it up to safety standards. The problem is this is the only location available in this area to service approx 150 subs, and we received 3 days notice on a project they have evidently been working on for 4-5 months. Anyway has anyone had to work around similar situations and if so how long does this process normally take... they tell me it could be up to 2 months. By that time there will be no one left that will want service. Any thoughts? __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (800) 638-2614 http://www.csweb.net http://www.csweb.net/ E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.21/1457 - Release Date: 5/20/2008 4:45 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.21/1457 - Release Date: 5/20/2008 4:45 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http
[WISPA] Question concerning IP Schema
Just curious to NAT or not to NAT, We have been operating with NATed addresses out to our customers on a 10.x.x.x private network, the trouble is more and more customers are wanting to use services that require a public IP, such as remote security camera monitoring, etc... we currently have been offering a static public IP for $30/mo in addition to subscription, but this is not so popular. Is anyone offering public IPs out to customers and how do you do so when you have more customers than IP addresses. FYI, we are using MT routers to handle DHCP and NATing. Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (800) 638-2614 http://www.csweb.net http://www.csweb.net/ E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Question concerning IP Schema
So then, static or DHCP'd __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (800) 638-2614 http://www.csweb.net E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 4:31 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Question concerning IP Schema Agreed. There is no good reason not to give one public IP to each client. There are many reasons why it is a bad idea to NAT clients behind private IPs. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 4:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Question concerning IP Schema We have always offered a single public IP address to every customer (dial-up, DSL, wireless, fiber, etc.) and then we charge $5/mo for each extra IP. It makes life SO much easier to track down customers when law enforcement comes with a subpeona, because the customer's IP never changes. We have our own IP space from ARIN. Costs us $5.20 per month per Class C. Travis Microserv Patrick Nix Jr. wrote: Just curious to NAT or not to NAT, We have been operating with NATed addresses out to our customers on a 10.x.x.x private network, the trouble is more and more customers are wanting to use services that require a public IP, such as remote security camera monitoring, etc... we currently have been offering a static public IP for $30/mo in addition to subscription, but this is not so popular. Is anyone offering public IPs out to customers and how do you do so when you have more customers than IP addresses. FYI, we are using MT routers to handle DHCP and NATing. Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (800) 638-2614 http://www.csweb.net http://www.csweb.net/ E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] A good battery solution
Any ideas on an inexpensive but effective battery solution for remote tower location... would like to keep equipment powered 6-8 hours w/o electric. Equipment includes 1 mikrotik, 1 trango Link45 and 1 trango M900AP Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (800) 638-2614 http://www.csweb.net http://www.csweb.net/ E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] A good battery solution
This was my first thought how do you add the extra batteries though, I read that it is not good to daisy chain the ups units together. And the cost of batteries that support external batteries aren't cheap. Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions (800) 638-2614 http://www.cnetworksolutions.com E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] === ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. === - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thu Apr 24 22:23:01 2008 Subject: Re: [WISPA] A good battery solution Why not use an actual APC UPS and extra batteries? That way you can monitor the power, have an estimate of run-time when the power goes out, and get email alerts. Travis Microserv Kurt Fankhauser wrote: I am starting to put everything on a 24v setup of the APC 7/13ah batteries with a Battery Tender (batterytender.com) The battery tender acts like a constant power source and charge controller all in one. This works really well as I can set up a site for around $175 and get 6-24 hours runtime depending on what I have hooked to it. Way better than any UPS. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Nix Jr. Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 7:03 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] A good battery solution Any ideas on an inexpensive but effective battery solution for remote tower location... would like to keep equipment powered 6-8 hours w/o electric. Equipment includes 1 mikrotik, 1 trango Link45 and 1 trango M900AP Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (800) 638-2614 http://www.csweb.net http://www.csweb.net/ E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/