Re: [WISPA] Shielded CAT5 connectors
http://www.blackbox.com/Catalog/Detail.aspx?cid=45,84,867mid=3954 FMTP5ES-250PAK 250 Connectors for $197.95 Thanks, -Russ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry A Weidig Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 11:01 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Shielded CAT5 connectors Recently there was a discussion about shielded CAT5 cable and specifically Shireen. We ordered a couple of boxes to check it out and seems to be working. Where are people buying shielded CAT5 connectors at a good price? We would likely order them 500 at a time, but I have not found anything under about $0.75/connector. Are people using the shielded connectors? * Larry A. Weidig ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] XR 9 cards
From an email I received earlier, Chuck at QuickLink says they aren't compatible. === Hello: Ubiquiti announced the release of the XR9. I can tell you from personal experience in our beta testing phase with Ubiquiti that these cards do perform better than the SR9. However, they are not cross-compatible with the SR9. Ubiquiti's announcement is below: Introducing the first carrier class modular radio for the 900MHz unlicensed band. The XR9 utilizes an advanced noise immunity radio architecture developed by Ubiquiti RF engineers through their customer interactions and field testing over the past two years. The XR9 enables links at speeds and distances never before seen in a 900MHz radio and is designed to operate in the harshest of environmental and noise conditions where other 900MHz have solutions failed. [Sales blurb trimmed.] Chuck Hogg QuickLink Wireless, LLC (800) 405-9865 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.quicklinkwireless.com === Thanks, Russ Kreigh Network Engineer OnlyInternet.Net Broadband Wireless Supernova Technologies Office: (800) 363-0989 Direct: (260) 827-2486 Fax:(260) 824-9624 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oibw.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ray Jean Hill Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 10:21 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] XR 9 cards We are currently using the SR9 cards, if our router is setup to use the SR9 cards, can we also use the XR9 cards? We have a few customers that could use the features that are on the XR9. Really dont want to redo the whole setup for a few customers who hear noise every now and again. Thanks for your help! Jean Hill Surfmore.Net ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Apache question
Either an HTTP redirect in the webpage, or a Server-side redirect, or a DNS CNAME will get you there. Russ Kreigh Network Engineer OnlyInternet.Net Broadband Wireless Supernova Technologies Office: (800) 363-0989 Direct: (260) 827-2486 Fax:(260) 824-9624 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oibw.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carl A jeptha Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 8:12 AM To: WISPA General List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WISPA] Apache question I am hosting a domain name (blahblah.ca) that must be re-directed to another hosting company (blahblah.com). I have read some info but cannot make sense of it. -- You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Mikrotik as an Orinoco AP-1000 Replacment
I believe the Mikrotik RouterBoard 200's will take PCMCIA cards, allowing use of the Orinoco cards. They're getting hard to find, but they are still around. Thanks, Russ Kreigh Network Engineer OnlyInternet.Net Broadband Wireless Supernova Technologies Office: (800) 363-0989 Direct: (260) 827-2486 Fax:(260) 824-9624 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oibw.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luke Pack Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 10:13 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik as an Orinoco AP-1000 Replacment We were looking into a solution here... we had an Orinoco AP-1000 and that got blown, so we replaced it with a Mikrotik with an SR2 card. The Mikrotik cannot come near to the quality of the Orinoco. This has actually happened before on another tower with all known good equipment. I have people not on the tower, and those who are, have much worse signals. The Mikrotik is set to auto, with regulatory domain as United States. Tx power is at default. Anyone know what the problem could be? Regards, Luke Pack ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Conduits
Your local home-center or electrical supplier should sell conduit pistons, we use ones from Greenlee. Russ Kreigh Network Engineer OnlyInternet.Net Broadband Wireless Supernova Technologies Office: (800) 363-0989 Direct: (260) 827-2486 Fax:(260) 824-9624 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oibw.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry A Weidig Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 3:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Conduits One method if the conduit is empty is to attach a light pull string to a ping pong ball and then to suck it through with a vacuum on the conduit from the opposite end as the ping pong ball. This of course assumes the conduit is tight sealed. * Larry A. Weidig ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 2:38 PM To: WISPA List Subject: [WISPA] Conduits So one has a long piece of conduit (150'). How would I get wires and the pull string through the conduit in the first place? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] ethernet switches, again
You could use a Mikrotik RB532 with a 564 db, that'll get you to about 20mbps. Or, you could go the Mikrotik RB192 route, I think they will have 9 ethernet ports. The RB 150's have 5 ports. Then there is this too. http://www.demarctech.com/products/reliawave-rwo/reliawave-snmp24b.html Thanks, Russ Kreigh Network Engineer OnlyInternet.Net Broadband Wireless Supernova Technologies Office: (800) 363-0989 Direct: (260) 827-2486 Fax:(260) 824-9624 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oibw.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 4:04 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] ethernet switches, again Dang Marlon - sounds like you need a routed (Dynamic or the real ugly word STATIC) network :-) I use VLAN tagging and Linksys (SRW208) switches at my towers in small outdoor (non vented) enclosures. I haven't lost but 1 due to lightning in the last year, but then I lost everything on the tower. We also use the APC surge protectors in a small rack mount box (holds 4 ethernet surge protectors) http://www.provantage.com/linksys-srw208~7LNKW01T.htm (switch) http://www.provantage.com/apc-pnetr5~7AMPN04K.htm (RJ45 surge module) http://www.provantage.com/apc-prm4~7AMPQ02L.htm (Module box) GL, Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 11:29 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WISPA] ethernet switches, again I know this has come up from time to time but I need to ask again. Here's what I'm looking for. Cheapish. I have 20 plus sites out there so I need to watch the budget on this. I don't want too cheap though, more inexpensive than cheap. I need the ability to force all traffic to an uplink port. In other words I don't want any traffic from ap 1 to get to ap2 without first going through the router. But, I need the ability to plug my laptop into a port that can still get to all other ports. I also want to be able to block all broadcast traffic and non ip traffic if I can. 5 port and 8 port versions would do the trick. They have to be good quality and not blow with every lightning storm that comes along. What would you guys use? And don't say ebay, I don't know enough about what I'm doing with them yet, I want the ability to call the factory for tech support. thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!
I use a Verizon AudioVox 6600 to Terminal service into my Work PC, I run 1280 x 1024 on my main screen, so it requires scrolling. But, I have all my applications and everything I need. The 6600 has a slide down keyboard. The phone is probably 3 years old, not sure if you can still get them new or not. http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=570 Several other guys around here have Motorola-Q's around here, but I prefer the bigger screen the 6600 has. BTW Matt, what are you running for NMS? Thanks, Russ Kreigh Network Engineer OnlyInternet.Net Broadband Wireless Supernova Technologies Office: (800) 363-0989 Direct: (260) 827-2486 Fax:(260) 824-9624 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oibw.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 3:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go! Matt Liotta wrote: You are suggesting that there is a situation where there is a problem so important or complicated that only you can fix it yet you want to be able to fix it remotely via a cell phone at a baseball game. Yup! I refuse to tether myself to my job. I've done that over the last few years, and I'm not doing it any longer. I do accept, though, that there are some things that, out of the eight or so employees working under my boss, I'm the only one who knows them. The ability to fix things remotely is essential to our business and to my sanity. (Fun fact: I value the second of those much more highly than the first.) As much as I'd love to be completely incommunicado for a few days here and there, it's not practical; I believe this has the potential to be a viable substitute. You have convinced yourself of what you need and can't see anything that could compare. The problem with your straw man is that no such device exists. You claim it doesn't exist; I'm still in a blissful state of doubt and confusion. Hence my original question about what handhelds will work with SSH the way I need 'em to. :) Yes, I have a Motorola Q with EVDO that is a very effective device. The device works great for phone calls, messaging, and simple web-based tasks. Geez, where do you live? Sounds like the data service is even worse than here, and that's pretty hard to come by. :P My copy of Opera Mini on a two-year-old Sprint phone that I picked up used on eBay for a hundred bucks works better than yours, at least from your description. I'd rather shoot myself than try and use SSH from it. Is this a statement of I've used SSH and found it wanting, or I haven't done this but I don't think it'd work? To be clear, I'm open to suggestions. I'm just very very picky about my requirements. ;) David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] ethernet switches, again
Yeah, I've heard that also. And I've got some good numbers going computer to computer through a RB532 with the Btest tool. However, our real world experience has been sadly different. Thanks, Russ Kreigh Network Engineer OnlyInternet.Net Broadband Wireless Supernova Technologies Office: (800) 363-0989 Direct: (260) 827-2486 Fax:(260) 824-9624 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oibw.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 4:14 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ethernet switches, again I've heard that Ethernet only the MT boards move an impressive amount of data... don't quote me, but I heard almost 100 megs. Wireless would be the 20 - 30 megs you describe. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Russ Kreigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 2:33 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] ethernet switches, again You could use a Mikrotik RB532 with a 564 db, that'll get you to about 20mbps. Or, you could go the Mikrotik RB192 route, I think they will have 9 ethernet ports. The RB 150's have 5 ports. Then there is this too. http://www.demarctech.com/products/reliawave-rwo/reliawave-snmp24b.html Thanks, Russ Kreigh Network Engineer OnlyInternet.Net Broadband Wireless Supernova Technologies Office: (800) 363-0989 Direct: (260) 827-2486 Fax:(260) 824-9624 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oibw.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 4:04 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] ethernet switches, again Dang Marlon - sounds like you need a routed (Dynamic or the real ugly word STATIC) network :-) I use VLAN tagging and Linksys (SRW208) switches at my towers in small outdoor (non vented) enclosures. I haven't lost but 1 due to lightning in the last year, but then I lost everything on the tower. We also use the APC surge protectors in a small rack mount box (holds 4 ethernet surge protectors) http://www.provantage.com/linksys-srw208~7LNKW01T.htm (switch) http://www.provantage.com/apc-pnetr5~7AMPN04K.htm (RJ45 surge module) http://www.provantage.com/apc-prm4~7AMPQ02L.htm (Module box) GL, Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 11:29 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WISPA] ethernet switches, again I know this has come up from time to time but I need to ask again. Here's what I'm looking for. Cheapish. I have 20 plus sites out there so I need to watch the budget on this. I don't want too cheap though, more inexpensive than cheap. I need the ability to force all traffic to an uplink port. In other words I don't want any traffic from ap 1 to get to ap2 without first going through the router. But, I need the ability to plug my laptop into a port that can still get to all other ports. I also want to be able to block all broadcast traffic and non ip traffic if I can. 5 port and 8 port versions would do the trick. They have to be good quality and not blow with every lightning storm that comes along. What would you guys use? And don't say ebay, I don't know enough about what I'm doing with them yet, I want the ability to call the factory for tech support. thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http
RE: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!
Yeah, I agree there, nothing like custom. We've developed an in-house system for our needs. I think it's just as good and in some area's better than any of the off-the-shelf one's I've seen, plus it's totally customized around our opererations. Russ Kreigh Network Engineer OnlyInternet.Net Broadband Wireless Supernova Technologies Office: (800) 363-0989 Direct: (260) 827-2486 Fax:(260) 824-9624 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oibw.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 7:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go! John Scrivner wrote: You really need your own OSS to manage all of your network. We looked around at smaller successful telecommunication companies and found that all of them had a good OSS. As such, we decided to do the same and it has been worth every penny. -Matt Sowhat is it? Unfortunately, you have to build it. -Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Switch with vlan
Obviously a Cisco will do the trick, used ones are dirt cheap. Then there is this guy. http://www.demarctech.com/products/reliawave-rwo/reliawave-snmp24b.html The approach I would take would be a Mikrotik PC loaded with 4-port networks cards, create a bridge group and apply a port filter on it. Thanks, -Russ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 11:05 PM To: Wispa List Subject: [WISPA] Switch with vlan I am in need of a switch (3, actually) that will allow me to prevent all communications between ports (vlans), but will trunk the traffic out an untagged port to the hotspot controller. Any suggestions appreciated. -- Butch Evans Network Engineering and Security Consulting 573-276-2879 http://www.butchevans.com/ My calendar: http://tinyurl.com/y24ad6 Training Partners: http://tinyurl.com/smfkf Mikrotik Certified Consultant http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Ethernet problems
What if you plug directly (or as direct as you can) into the Mikrotik CPE with your laptop?? -Russ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 4:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Ethernet problems I installed a customer in October and started having Ethernet problems in March. I have an approximately 200' Ethernet run from the top of a TV tower, to the house, and through the basement. I installed a Belden? outdoor Cat5E cable, a Mohawk outdoor gel cable, a rope for future cable additions, and an RG6 quad shield TV cable in a conduit. Numerous times I cut off slack on both ends of the original cable (the Belden). All that fixed the problem was turning off auto negotiation and setting it to 100 HDX. A few weeks later the problems returned, and I set it to 10 HDX. Now, maybe 6 weeks later the problem is back. I switched to the Mohawk cable. I put on a different PoE injector and a different ECS cable (PacWireless cable that provides an Ethernet jack on the outside of the enclosure and has a 1' pigtail that plugs into the Mikrotik board. Problem remains. The Mikrotik is getting power as it associates with my tower and the two clients off an AP installed on the same board work just fine. I tried different patch cables from the injectors to the laptop\desktop. I really don't want to pull 200' of cable only to have it not work again. Does anyone have a good Ethernet tester I can borrow\rent? Not one that just says if the pins make it (I had one of those and it said the cable was fine), but one that is a bit more advanced. From my understanding, these are $800 - $5k units. Someone close to Northern Illinois would be best. I'm out of ideas. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Ethernet over 328ft
One thing to remember is that the spec also specifies that two patch cords may be used. A 90Meter Horizontal run, with 3M patch cord from the wall jack to the work area, and a 6M patch cord in the wiring closet. The extra two male plug/female jacks create an insertion loss of about 82ft, assuming top quality connections. This does not include the 110 IDC connectors for the patch panels, those also add significant insertion loss. So, there your close to 400ft, and, to a stretch, it's within the spec. The other is how long it takes the signal to get from one side of the wire to the other. And how many bit times it takes to detect a collision, which needs to happen within 512-bit times. So, just based on the math, you could get away with 672 feet. I've run FastEthernet farther than 100M many times. But, I also had to put in a switch at mid-point on 300ft cable run this week, too. It was an AM-tower though, I don't think it was the distance getting us, but the interference. So, if your on an interference free tower, use good cable, good ends, and good installation techniques and you'll be fine with 400ft. Thanks, -Russ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik Jansson Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 4:01 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Ethernet over 328ft The Ethernet spec is for a maximum cable run of 328ft. What is the the spec limits it to this distance, timing, cable resistance? I need to do an outdoor run of 350-400ft, not real keen on fiber as I then need to power a converter and I have doubts of a converter that will with stand the cold being available. It is a critical cable run. I don't need the full 100mb. Any feed back, ideas, or experience would be great. Erik -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Ethernet over 328ft
We've had good luck with ferrite beads elsewhere. Not on this tower. We had a tone/probe cable tester that when you would plug the probe into the ethernet cable going up the tower, you could hear the radio station, on the cable tester speaker. Explain that one to me. -Russ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 4:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ethernet over 328ft the AM towers, the little farite ring or whatever it is, is worth its wait in gold. We are about 300 feet from a AM tower, the power 1000 watts, was enough for us to burn our fingers on the cat5 end without ether end plugged in! And I do mean, you start to smell burning skin, not good! Dennis On 5/17/07, Russ Kreigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing to remember is that the spec also specifies that two patch cords may be used. A 90Meter Horizontal run, with 3M patch cord from the wall jack to the work area, and a 6M patch cord in the wiring closet. The extra two male plug/female jacks create an insertion loss of about 82ft, assuming top quality connections. This does not include the 110 IDC connectors for the patch panels, those also add significant insertion loss. So, there your close to 400ft, and, to a stretch, it's within the spec. The other is how long it takes the signal to get from one side of the wire to the other. And how many bit times it takes to detect a collision, which needs to happen within 512-bit times. So, just based on the math, you could get away with 672 feet. I've run FastEthernet farther than 100M many times. But, I also had to put in a switch at mid-point on 300ft cable run this week, too. It was an AM-tower though, I don't think it was the distance getting us, but the interference. So, if your on an interference free tower, use good cable, good ends, and good installation techniques and you'll be fine with 400ft. Thanks, -Russ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik Jansson Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 4:01 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Ethernet over 328ft The Ethernet spec is for a maximum cable run of 328ft. What is the the spec limits it to this distance, timing, cable resistance? I need to do an outdoor run of 350-400ft, not real keen on fiber as I then need to power a converter and I have doubts of a converter that will with stand the cold being available. It is a critical cable run. I don't need the full 100mb. Any feed back, ideas, or experience would be great. Erik -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Dennis Burgess, MCP, CCNA, A+, N+, Mikrotik Certified Consultant www.mikrotikconsulting.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] RE: Are you for sale?
Man, go easy on the guy. His intentions, whether good or bad, was that of a capitalist. Here is my big hangup on this: It would be a two way negotiation, give these so-called VULTURE VICTIM'S the benefit of the doubt that they would have half a brain to know if they are getting screwed. They can walk away just as easy as Matt could retract his offer. It's called due dilligence. The bottom line is this: 1. If someone views CALEA as such a burden and they are incapable of doing the due diligence themselves and are so easily convinced that the sky is falling and that they want out, then Matt's offer would be welcome news. 2. If that's not the case, I am sure a conversation with Matt about fair market value, or PARTNERSHIP oppurtunities for your orginazation wouldn't hurt either. As far as him exploting these people, it appeared to me that it was an open offer to all companies looking for an exit, not JUST because of CALEA. If you do not fall into one of the top two categories then do YOUR due diligence in finding your delete key. From what I have gathered and read, Matt is doing some pretty neat things in our industry. He also seems to be willing to take the time to actively participate in these lists, I've learnt a couple things from him reading his posts. Don't bother replying to me or attacking me, just remember who the real enemy is, and that for sure isn't your fellow WISP. We as people and as companies are all good at something, if we could just stop attacking each other and work together, man, immagine what we could do. -Russ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Weinberg Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 5:58 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] RE: Are you for sale? Bravo Michael. Ezlinx.net, Inc. Jack Weinberg 69 Public Square, 14th Floor Wilkes-Barre, PA 18701 ph: 1-866-439-5469 1-570-823-9804 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Erskine Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 10:08 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] RE: Are you for sale? Matt; This is going to be a bit rough but I feel the need to call a this as I see it. You are running roughshod on a lot of people with your fear mongering and it needs to be called into the open. So... In discussions with others it has come to my attention that several companies are looking to exit the business for various reasons not the least of which is CALEA. If you're serious about exploring an exit, contact me offlist. I am interested in a variety of optionsfrom taking a controlling interest to an outright cash buyout. I don't want to sound like a vulture, but ... ... but you most certainly do sound like a vulture ... What makes you such an authority on CALEA, Matt? What qualifications or experience with CALEA do you bring to the table that give credence to the fear that you are mongering on this list? Purchasing compliance does not constitute authoritative knowledge. Most ISPs will be able to satisfy the CALEA requirements for less than $200.00. Yep, that is what I said. When the WISPA Standard gets blessed, and I did say when, there will be an open source implementation. It will provide safe harbor and it will run on low end hardware. Having had the personal experience of working with the LEAs a number of times since about 1990 I feel perfectly comfortable in expressing my dismay at the egregious misinformation and negative speculation you have posted on this list. CALEA compliance is only going to be a problem for those WISPs who refuse to do due diligence in coming to compliance. Honestly Matt, what you have demonstrated on this list is that you have a talent for fear mongering and then exploiting the poor gullible people who bought into that fear mongering. Mind you that is only my opinion, but I am keeping it. I strongly encourage anyone who is currently in fear of CALEA to just go reread the FAQ. Read it critically, ensure that you have filed your documents thru Kris to the FBI. Then relax. The FBI is working very well with the committee. Progress is being made very quickly on a tough problem. Just relax people. Don't make a stupid mistake based upon pure horse hockey and spin which only serves to benefit those who would exploit your fear. If you want to sell, don't let CALEA compliance be any part of your decision. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.5/793 - Release Date: 5/7/2007 2:55 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.5/793 - Release Date: 5/7/2007 2:55 PM -- WISPA Wireless List:
RE: [WISPA] MUM - who is going?
http://www.mikrotikconsultant.com ;-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 2:36 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] MUM - who is going? I'm not involved with WISPA yet, but I am going and presenting. Dennis Burgess www.mikoritkconsultant.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 1:07 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] MUM - who is going? I thought I would ask here and see who all is registered or is planning to attend MUM (Orlando, Fl) May 31 - June 1st? John (Tully) mentioned something to me about WISPA having access to a room free of charge - does anyone know anything about this or if we will attempt to have a (beer) meeting there? I am about to make reservations as I just managed to clear my schedule :-) Thanks, Mac -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Network Monitoring and Graphing
We primarily use: Whats Up Gold Premium v11 Solarwinds Orion Cacti Visualpulse For anyone who is looking at monitoring infrastructure and their individual customers, I would strongly suggest taking a look at AdRem NetCrunch. The new version (v11) of WhatsUp Gold has really come around, it's finally mature enough to be put in the same league as Openview, it has lots of new graphing and reporting features. Thanks, Russ Kreigh Network Engineer OnlyInternet.Net Broadband Wireless Supernova Technologies Office: (800) 363-0989 Direct: (260) 827-2486 Fax:(260) 824-9624 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oibw.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sam Tetherow Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 2:34 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitoring and Graphing David E. Smith wrote: Jory Privett wrote: I am looking some a software package that does network monitoring and graphing. WhatsUp will do the monitoring and notifications, but at least the version I've got doesn't do graphing. (In all fairness, it's an older version, and MRTG does graphing just fine.) Nagios works, but is a royal PITA to set up. Maybe I just do really simple stuff, or maybe I'm just twisted, but I never found nagios to be all the complicated to setup. Installed from package, edited hosts.cfg and services.cfg and you are good to go. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Haven't worked with most of the others you mentioned. I'm seriously getting into Mikrotik's The Dude software, actually. I don't think it has an SMS interface, but it can send email (and if your goal is to get the message to a cell phone, most carriers can receive email and convert it to a text message). It combines monitoring and graphing in one really spiffy interface. Oh, and it's free, which is always an important criterion for WISP operations :D David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] External battery on UPS
Yeah, it's completely possible, and will work well, at least once, until the batteries are gone and need to be recharged. The issue is the duty-cycle of the charger, your going from a 14ah to 100ah charge load, the charger has to run 7-times as long to fully charge the batteries, this may work fine with some higher end UPS, and some it might burn up the charger. Another thing to make note of, is that most UPS systems run an internal 24V system, and not a 12V system, so be SURE which one you're dealing with before you start any modifications. We're in process of developing our own remote-site power solution. Everything we've found is either too big physically, requiring expensive outdoor enclosures, or doesn't have the run-time we desire, or is too expensive. I think we've got the basic design down, we're adding things like a local power input option, so that in a long extended outage we can drop the generator off to charge the batteries and run the system, and when the utility power is restored, it will switch back automatically. We're also looking into a direct 12v input from a vehicle cigarette lighter output, or additional external batteries. Would anyone have any interest in this when we get it complete? Thanks, Russ Kreigh Network Engineer OnlyInternet.Net Supernova Technologies -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of paul hendry Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 12:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wireless@wispa.org Subject: RE: [WISPA] External battery on UPS Scott, Surely it should be possible to replace 2 12v 7ah batteries run in parallel (not series) with 1 12v 100ah battery as the voltage isn't changing? With regards runtime I can just increase the external battery count. Mac, don't worry I have no intention of putting my tongue on these things to see if they charged ;) Cheers, P. -Original Message- From: Scott Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 March 2007 12:22 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] External battery on UPS The charger is designed for the size and number of batteries in the original configuration. Changing the quantity and/or type of battery risks damaging either the charger or the batteries. Also, runtime is determined by the batteries, so changing them changes the runtime. paul hendry wrote: Is anyone using external batteries on the larger APC UPS's? I've got an old Smart-UPS 3000 RM that has 8 x 12v batteries in it. The thing is they are wired in a bit of a strange config. It looks to me like they are split into 4 sets of 2 batteries running in series then 2 of those sets are cabled to the same connector inside the UPS and so there are 2 connectors with 4 batteries hanging of each. Is there any reason I can't run 2 x 2 (in series) 12v 100ah batteries instead of the original 8? I don't seem to be able to and don't really want to get another 4 batteries just to discover I can do it with 4. Cheers, P. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists Sent: 16 November 2006 16:45 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] External battery on UPS I replaced the two internal batteries last night with two external, $100 batteries, and put a load on the UPS that matched the highest load I have out in the field (80w). It took 2 Tranzeo APs, an Xpeed SDSL modem, and a 19 TV on the QVC to load it up properly. Now instead of 1 hour I get 13 hours. Bigger, better batteries should net me more time than this. My goal is bang for buck at this stage in my business...more run time for a sensible price. One cool thing about this setup is that I can rig it up to be able to simply take new batteries out to a site when they are getting low, instead of the generator. I can keep some spare batteries charged up and ready to go. It's a whole lot cheaper and easier than purchasing multiple QUALITY 1000w generators and putting large custom tanks on them. That is if your UPS is not on the top of a water tower or something. ;) Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 6:41 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] External battery on UPS I'm pasting Gino's link to the right thread. Then I can search me email in a year and find the correct thread Connectors: http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=263-110 Batteries: http://www.donrowe.com/batteries/8a31dt.html Brian Rohrbacher wrote: Can we get some links to these batteries that work well? Gino, Got a link to the DC block connectors you were talking about? Brian Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, We run two 4 gauge power wires out
RE: CALEA - HOW? RE: [WISPA] Form 445
Matt - Do you have a link to this, or an IOS train number? I couldn't find it on CCO. I know Cisco has a solution, just haven't been able to find much about it. Thanks, Russ Kreigh Network Engineer OnlyInternet.Net Broadband Wireless Supernova Technologies Office: (800) 363-0989 Direct: (260) 827-2486 Fax:(260) 824-9624 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oibw.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 10:00 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: CALEA - HOW? RE: [WISPA] Form 445 We are just deploying a new IOS image that includes Cisco's SII architecture. Our only cost is time. -Matt Rick Smith wrote: OK, Don't point me to some confusing URL I don't have time (or patience) to read about how to comply with CALEA. What are YOU as a WISP doing to comply ? How much is it costing you ? What technology ? How would you provide the hook in so the FBI could just listen in at any time (is that the way it works ? Or do they still need to provide a subpoena...) ? Others I'm sure will come up.. R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 12:44 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Form 445 wispa wrote: You actually think that the big guys will actually let that happen? Yeah, I can see it now, our upstreams turning CALEA compliance into a profit center. Anyways if you want to bring your own tape recorder up to the feds and ask them some questions, go for it. But the offer still stands. Any reasonable question regarding the implementation of CALEA compliance I will be glad to ask. George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Understanding STAROS with High Power cards.
I'd be interested in the conclusive answer as well, I've heard several different theories. -Russ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 11:35 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Understanding STAROS with High Power cards. Can someone tell me how STAROS works in regards to setting power levels to cards that adapative modulate. Specifically related to Cards with on board AMPs. To be more clear A SR2 may be speced at 26db at 1-24 mbps, but 24db at 36mbps, and 22db at 48-56mb. My unconfirmed understanding is, that the SR2 adds about 8db via an onboard external amp beyond what the card is actually set to. So if the card is set to 16db, it will have an output power of 24db in theory. However, its not that simple because the output power will change based on modulation. Does STAROS drivers set the power as the constant power regardless of what modulation? Or does it set the TOP power? Does the power on the card only change if modulation drops and the power is set higher than power it suppoed to drop to? The radio card has no knowledge of what DB antenna is connected to it. And are the onboard AMPs a set output or variable output AMP? The point that I'm making is, how can we set the card to near MAX levels, but guarantee that they will never transmit above the allowed EIRP? If I have the conclusive answer to that question, then I can reduce the power to the lowest level needed for a good link, with headroom capabilty if emergencies occur, but more importantly, I can document what the top allowable setting should be for that specific configuration of a radio, so when an emergencies occurs, my novice staff does not break the rules inadvertently. It gets more confusing with multiple manufacturer AMPs. Because we need to have knowledge of what type of AMP is added to the card. (variable or not). And also what input power level its expecting to minimize internal distortion. I can give an example of a test I ran yesterday using a SR2 (400mw) and a Teletronic 22db (approx 150mw) High Power card. I thought the chipsets were near the same. I got really weird results. The AP had an SR2. THe radios were hard set at 24mbps for testing. At the SU we tried using both a SR2 and Teletronics. The SR2 had 10db lower signal at the AP than SU, unexplained. The Teletronics had 5 db lower signal at the SU than AP. The SR2 had 15 db higher SU gain than the Teletronics SU, at MAX power setting. Now I'm assuming that the SR2 was heavilly being overpowered during the short brief test, and we set it down to 16db power in STAROS. Why did this occured differently for the Teleronics Atheros? Is there onboard AMP a different type than the SR2? Or less filtering? Or worse sensitivity? The power levels also varied significantly based on what level cloaking used, so we were concerned on whether both cards, equaly cloaked. There was some talk in the past where some Atheros revs, only did 5Mhz transmits but still listened to 20Mhz during receives. (We possibly needed significant power because we were blasting through some trees and it was high noise environment, and we were using 30deg antennas. Before we get slammed for overpowering but within legal limits, Take note, that this is an experimental environment, to learn the product and the performance of high power cards. Its likely we could have done the link without high powered cards, but then we would not have been able to learn anything. We are also proving the viabilty of whether it hurts to have a HighPower card by default, and if the card still performs optimally if the power is turned down. Or if the AMP in line causes significant in-line distortion that is disadvantageous for low power operation.). I know there are two easy solutions... 1) Use a CM9 without an AMP, and avoid the problem. 2) Use a High quality OFDM Radio Like an Alvarion (Which we do often) But for the sake of this thread, please ignore those two Options, as the purpose of the thread is to understand the specifications of STAROS and HighPowered Cards. I think these kinds of questions are impairative for us to conclusively have the answers to, and not just have a I think thats how it works. The question that I'm also posing is, can this gear be certifiable with the current StarOS feature set? Meaning, if there is no place to add the DBi of attached antenna, or the radio itself would not be able to auto-set these levels and left up to the engineer. I'm going to Email Teletronics and Ubiquiti on the design specs of their cards, but I'm sure a lot of this depends on drivers as well. Also as a disclaimer, we wanted to rule our power supplies and Mainboard hardware as causes. At the CPE, we used both a WAR2 boards and a WRAP1E. With the WAR board we tried using a 18V 1amp Power Supply, a 24v unregulated power supply, and a regulated 24V 1amp
RE: [WISPA] Solar power
Mark - What are you wanting to power, load-wise? Thanks, Russ Kreigh Network Engineer OnlyInternet.Net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 1:14 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Solar power David... Any news on this potential sub-$1k solar system? Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: David Weddell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 7:58 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Solar power We are testing a solar solution right now and will get back with you on the results. It will be sub $1,000 if the testing goes well. I will report it to the list when we get the full results. Regards, David Weddell Director of Sales 260 827 2551 Office 800 363 4881 Ext 2551 260 273 7547 Cell www.onlyinternet.net www.oibw.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 11:41 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Solar power I appreciate the info, but for what I need, $5000 isn't even close to being worth it. This is for ONE AP (Deliberant 7000). I was thinking if I could stay in the $500 range it might be OK, but anything more than that would not make sense for me in THIS case. In other instances it might, but not this one. Thanks for this though. I'll keep it in case I run into an instance where I do need something like this. Great info! - Original Message - From: Alan Cain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 7:58 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Solar power I have some - the typical shopping list is like this: Kyocera solar panels - 4 kc130-k, at approx. 680.00 each - gives me 14 volts at 14 amps on a good day (to charge batteries) Mounting hardware - varies 100-200 wiring harnesses between panels - 50.00 wiring harness to charge controller (below) 20 Trojan l16H batteries - 2 to 4, at 270 each (+/-) wiring interconnects - Series to 12 volts, parallel from there 30.00 fuses and cutoff switch between batteries and everything else 40.00 fuses and cutoff switch between panels and everything else 40.00 charge controller - I have used shell 20's (120.00 with enclosure) successfully, though they are a bit low rated for the solar load - I have gone to Xantrex charge controllers with cute lights and battery temperature sensors (twice as much - 245 plus 29) voltage regulator (90.00) for 12 v to 18 v boost (range 6 v to 24 v) timer 50.00 (sometimes I set them up to be off from 1 am to 5 am, to save power during the gray, foggy period coming up)(December 1 to February 1) - that's why 4 batteries, too. It is better to add batteries than panels for the most part (see Kyocera panels above) and auto tilting mounts don't give us that much advantage up here above 45degrees north - just a few percent. In the southern lands, I'd give them a try. Enclosure for the stuff - varies, depending on whether I find a sweet box or build a little hut. ($ whatever) Grounding stuff. - rods, #2 copper wire, wire lugs, clamps. 100.00 About 5000.00 for a decent power setup for me. I am using Tranzeo radios, at 18 volts. Very Christmas-like, with the flickering lights on top of the tower... I have a generator handy for charging on really bad stretches - a Honda 2000i, for about 900.00, with a SERIOUS cable lock. And if the lousy communists/free spending democrats/stinking republican fascists/religious true believing kooks/screwed up militarists/nasty bird flu ridden ducks/global frying eco-terrorists/flaming radical libertarians make everything bad, I can harvest my stuff to power my house (WOO HOO!!) H maybe I should go take a look. I Am Armed. And carry sharp Multimeter probes. And, it's fun - bragging rights, ya know. I'll send you drawings if you want (on my time schedule - I am in the middle of an assembly right now :} ) There are several good supply houses for the parts, and most of them are Very Helpful. I'd tell you who I use, but that would be Bad Form. www.bigdam.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.7/537 - Release Date: 11/17/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409
RE: [WISPA] power draw
Use an Amp-Clamp, their commonly available at your home center. But, you can't measure on the cord, you'll have to measure an isolated Hot or Neutral (Black or White) wire by itself. Easiest way is at the breaker panel. -Russ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 10:16 AM To: isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] power draw Hi, We have a large power bar mounted on a rack that powers several servers and switches. It keeps popping the breaker that feeds the bar. Is there any device (ammeter?) that I can measure the amperage draw on that cord while everything is running? Thanks, Travis Microserv -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] power draw
Put a smart card in the symmetra, unless you already have one in it. The web interface will give you an idea of the load on the port. Keep in mind power-factor vs real-power readings. -Russ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 3:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] power draw and now, the rest of the story... The power supply feeding these power bars is an APC Symmetra unit. There is no way to get a clamp around only 1 side of the circuit. The other issue is trying to avoid having to take down an entire power bar to measure. :( Travis Microserv Jonathan Schmidt wrote: RadioShack has one for $21: Model 22-602 It's a multimeter with clamp-on ammeter probe. I had one from them years ago and looked like a real electrician's tool and worked well. However, this seems to have a clamp-on probe and goes to 30 amps. For under $21, I might get one...handy, you know. In fact, I'll pick up one on the way home and tell you how it works. . . . j o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 1:46 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] power draw Amprobe Just have an electrician come in and check that breaker. Or, if you are like me, you've used them a lot in a former life and have a couple laying around :-). Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 8:24 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] power draw The problem is I don't want to power down everything to check it. I already have a Kill-A-Watt. Travis Microserv CHUCK PROFITO wrote: WOULD A KILL A WATT BE TOO SMALL? FROOGLE IT, ABOUT $20-25. MINE WORKS WELL. Hi, We have a large power bar mounted on a rack that powers several servers and switches. It keeps popping the breaker that feeds the bar. Is there any device (ammeter?) that I can measure the amperage draw on that cord while everything is running? Thanks, Travis Microserv -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Routed vs bridged (again)...
I can't believe I am getting involved in this... First, routing is not bad, or the best solution. Bridging is not bad, or the best solution. Network DESIGN is the solution. A hybrid network DESIGNED by a competent network person will outperform a pure bridged network or a pure routed network any day. PERIOD. I am not going to go into the technical aspects of why routing versus bridging is good, and bad. It all depends on what you are trying to accomplish, what your customers are trying to accomplish, your market, your competion, what equipment you are using, your budget, your staff's experience, failover protection, outage isolation, QoS, Security, Mail, SLA requirements and about 100 other factors. Let me say this, I administer about 70 routing devices, ranging from Cisco 7206 routers, Cisco Catalyst L3 switches, down to Mikrotik 532's. I also manage some pretty HUGE bridged segments on our network. I've seen routed networks be brought to their knees, I've seen bridged network do the same. The difference in our case is that we DESIGNED the network. We also have several dozen VLAN's on our network -- there is a misconception that using VLANs means you are bridging - well, no. Its hybrid, and in the end, it is ultimatly routing. And again, public IPs versus Private IPs to a customer is a whole different story, we have both on our network - it depends on what you are trying to accomplish. There is no need to give a /30 to every customer, there are other more efficent ways of doing this. With a /30 your using up 4 addresses, 1-Network Address 1-Router Address 1-Customer Address and 1-Broadcast address. There is an argument that bridging is easy, yeah, until something goes wrong. There is an argument that routing is easy -- until something goes wrong. Many of you are die-hard routing people, many of your are die-hard bridgers. That's fine -- but stay away from my network :-) So, in case you missed the point of this email NETWORK DESIGN is the best solution. Thanks, Russ Kreigh Network Engineer OnlyInternet.Net Broadband Wireless Supernova Technologies Office: (800) 363-0989 Direct: (260) 827-2486 Fax:(260) 824-9624 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oibw.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 12:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routed vs bridged (again)... - Original Message - From: Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 10:44 PM Subject: [WISPA] Routed vs bridged (again)... On Sat, 2 Dec 2006, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: It's a very high cost. Why does every residential user need to tie up 3 ip addys? How long can we keep handing them out like that before we run into trouble again? There is only so much nat that we're gonna get away with. I give up...why does a residential user need 3 ips? I never suggested that they did. And I guess I don't understand what nat has to do with any of it. OK, what's the minimum number of ip addys that a routed customer HAS to use? I thought it was three. Is it really two or four instead? Either way, it's a waste of ip addresses. NAT matters because it's the only way many of us would ever get enough ip addys for every customer AND every device on the network. For customers that increasinly need two way communications NAT isn't a good option. Then there's the CALEA crap. How in the world is a person going to track EVERY packet in his network? And those doing NAT may well have to as ALL customers behind a nat'd address show up as the one public addy. That's not gonna help anyone find that Kiddie porn freak. So what will we have to do to comply? Don't know for sure yet, but I certinly think that it'll be much easier to deal with the issue if every customer has a public ip. No...not a requirement. It's just a more scalable solution. There are nearly 4000 (unfortunately not all mine :-) 100meg customers on that network. I don't want to argue this point, because I just don't have enough information about the network. I seriously doubt, though, that all those customers are all on a single /20 network (which would support 4096 hosts). Even worse, if there are routers there, too, it may need a /19 (which would accomodate over 8000 customers). If they are not, take my word for it...they are routed. They are routed to the world at the isp. But they are NOT routed within the network. They are vlan'd. Some isp's may have multiple vlans or some such thing, but I'd be surprised at that. I'm just saying that it's far less important than it used to be. With the proliferation of worms being what it is, and most of them spreading by broadcast to the local network? You must be kidding... Nope. We block client to client communications at the ap (and hopefully soon at the switch). The worms can only get sideways
RE: [WISPA] OSPF routing question (nubie to OSPF)
Marshall - In my option that is the best way to migrate. In Cisco world (and probably all routers), routes are indexed by an administrative distance. Static routes have an AD of 1, BGP-20, OSPF-110, etc. Whichever one has the best distance, is the one that the router installs in the routing table. So, you can turn up OSPF all over, verifiy that they are adjacent, then remove your static routes one by one. -Russ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rabbtux rabbtux Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 5:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] OSPF routing question (nubie to OSPF) All, I have a fully and manually routed network of 5-10 subnets. I am about to upgrade one of my backhaul links to 5G, and thought now might be a time to get my feet wet with OSPF. I clearly see how the manual routing tables are not very scale-able. Here is my one question before I spend too much time including OSPF as part of the upgrade. Can I run OSPF on a system that has my manual static routes, but OSPF is attached to a new interface. At the other end of the new interface, is an OSPF interface on another manually routed system. Would this work? This way I could preserve network stability by changing only one small part of the network and OSPF. Later, I could remove some of my manual routes and add OSPF to other routers. Is this possible? Is this a practical way to migrate away from static routing? Any better suggestions? Thanks in advance, Marshall Rabbit Meadows Technology -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] IP Cameras
What about a powerline ethernet adapter, assuming the power to the end of the drive feeds off the house? -Russ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Chipps Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 11:30 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] IP Cameras While we are talking about wireless cameras I have a question related to this. I need a camera at my front gate so I can see who is there. The problem is the gate is 1/4 mile from the house. About half of this distance is through a stand of oak trees. Do you think any of these cameras would punch through that amount of tree cover? The camera and the receiver for it would be have to mounted right at the height of the thickest part of the trees. Ken Chipps -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 10:09 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] IP Cameras Panasonic has a nice outdoor rated PTZ IP cam with motion sensor for about $550 Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 11:05 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] IP Cameras I'm using one from Inscape Data. EC has them. I think I get it back tomorrow. It's been at a gas station taking video clips of someone using a stolen gas card. The guy's set to be arrested today. They've got him on cam 6 times in the last 2 or so weeks. The gas station is jazzed. It's interesting, the guy that's got it is NOT the guy that they just knew was using it! Good thing we had the cam. Next it'll be used in a town that's got someone (they think kids) taking wallets, cds, etc. from open cars. We're gonna set up in a building out on the street and set up a sting. This one has good resolution, a zoom lens, built in web server, audio and video, built in motion sensor (though it will false alarm in the dark), ethernet AND wireless. I paid about $500 for it. It's WELL worth the price. I have a $150 dlink cam too. It's got a decent picture but I never was able to get the dang thing to send pics to a server off site. I ended up just giving it away. The Inscape ones can be had with an outdoor enclosure and pan tilt zoom remote controls. I don't know exactly what those would add to the price. When I get it back I can set it up so you can view it if you'd like. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 12:32 AM Subject: [WISPA] IP Cameras Someone on these lists said they had inexpensive ip cams with motion detection and they paid like 140.00 for it. Anyone remember or know what camera? I'm looking for something like this, but in an outdoor enclosure. Thanks George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Battery Backup
Brad - What model hardware do you have, and what software version? Thanks, -Russ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 12:30 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Battery Backup Great information Rick! I like you idea of gutting the unit. Our units are set with static IP addresses. They are at least a year old now...maybe they changed that to only allow DHCP in later revisions? Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 10:14 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Battery Backup Brian, We made an inexpensive Rebootable UPS out of an APC BH500NET. It has a web interface to reboot the system and Ethernet ports to connect to. It was designed as a cheap office/residential device. Lowest price I can find today is $95. We gutted the components from the original case and put in a weatherproof Carlon box. It voids the warranty but gives you a nice little cheap unit for those remote sites. I just looked at the runtime on this unit and it says 53 minutes. It is drawing 40 watts of consumption. One thing we did have to do is write firewall rules to only allow access from our office IP range. It seems as though the http security is lax and is prone to hack attempts. The other fault of this unit is that you cannot assign it an IP address statically. It will pick up a DHCP address only, then you need to reserve that IP. It has it's drawbacks but for the money, it is a nice little tool. I took this up with APC support and they told me they had no intentions of rewriting the software to make it more manageable. I have included pictures of our final product. I'm not sure if this addresses your need but it is an option. Rick Harnish President Supernova Technologies, Inc. 260-827-2482 Founding Member of WISPA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 4:37 PM To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization Subject: [WISPA] Battery Backup I need help making a battery backup system. I attached pictures of what I have. It's a power inverter, auto transfer switch, Air Conditioner type disconnect, and a deep cycle marine battery. I want to do something like this at some remote sites. What can I do better, more efficient, maybe cheaper, or just different. I want to know all the options. Brian -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Battery Backup
Ah, we are running a newer Web Firmware.. Don't suppose you have the old firmware? Model: APC Back-UPS HS 500 Firmware revision: l1 Web firmware revision: l4 -Russ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 12:50 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Battery Backup Hello Russ, I believe the same as Rick...APC BH500NET. Nice little units, but I wish they had an Ethernet switch built-in rather than just a port. In all honesty I don't think I'd want production traffic passing through a UPS anyway, so the single port is fine. Technical Parameters Model: APC Back-UPS HS 500 Serial number: AB0** Firmware revision: l1 Web firmware revision: l2 UPS date of manufacture (mm-dd-): 06-18-2004 Battery replacement date (mm-dd-): 11-15-2004 Current Status Battery status: Charged Last transfer to battery was caused by: Blackout Result of last self-test is: None Load on Battery Backup Your battery backup is currently providing: 140 Watts Power Source: On-Line Battery Capacity: 100% Available Runtime: 12min Guess I've had this one for a bit longer than I remember...looks like we installed it 11-15-2004. It's running a P4 MikroTik multi-interface router along with several Trango radios at a remote HUB. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Russ Kreigh Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 11:41 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Battery Backup Brad - What model hardware do you have, and what software version? Thanks, -Russ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 12:30 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Battery Backup Great information Rick! I like you idea of gutting the unit. Our units are set with static IP addresses. They are at least a year old now...maybe they changed that to only allow DHCP in later revisions? Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 10:14 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Battery Backup Brian, We made an inexpensive Rebootable UPS out of an APC BH500NET. It has a web interface to reboot the system and Ethernet ports to connect to. It was designed as a cheap office/residential device. Lowest price I can find today is $95. We gutted the components from the original case and put in a weatherproof Carlon box. It voids the warranty but gives you a nice little cheap unit for those remote sites. I just looked at the runtime on this unit and it says 53 minutes. It is drawing 40 watts of consumption. One thing we did have to do is write firewall rules to only allow access from our office IP range. It seems as though the http security is lax and is prone to hack attempts. The other fault of this unit is that you cannot assign it an IP address statically. It will pick up a DHCP address only, then you need to reserve that IP. It has it's drawbacks but for the money, it is a nice little tool. I took this up with APC support and they told me they had no intentions of rewriting the software to make it more manageable. I have included pictures of our final product. I'm not sure if this addresses your need but it is an option. Rick Harnish President Supernova Technologies, Inc. 260-827-2482 Founding Member of WISPA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 4:37 PM To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization Subject: [WISPA] Battery Backup I need help making a battery backup system. I attached pictures of what I have. It's a power inverter, auto transfer switch, Air Conditioner type disconnect, and a deep cycle marine battery. I want to do something like this at some remote sites. What can I do better, more efficient, maybe cheaper, or just different. I want to know all the options. Brian -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Opinion
-85 dBm @ 11Mbps There's the downside :-( Russ Kreigh Network Engineer OnlyInternet.Net Broadband Wireless Supernova Technologies Office: (800) 363-0989 Direct: (260) 827-2486 Fax:(260) 824-9624 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oibw.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Sullivan Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:13 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Opinion Has anyone ever heard of this item? http://estore.itmm.ca/product_info.php?cPath=36products_id=154 It just seems WAY to good to be true. Jeff -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Cisco
Butch - Double check that the sonicwall is running 100-full, hard-code it if you can. You should never see deferred transmissions on a 100-full connection. Also check your ethernet cables. You also might try putting a switch in between the Cisco and Sonicwall if you can't hard-code it. Russ Kreigh Network Engineer OnlyInternet.Net Broadband Wireless Supernova Technologies Office: (800) 363-0989 Direct: (260) 827-2486 Fax:(260) 824-9624 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oibw.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 12:12 PM To: Wispa List Subject: [WISPA] Cisco I am seeing some errors on a client's network and I need some expertise. Here is the output from the Cisco: cdg-gate#sh interfaces FastEthernet0/0 FastEthernet0/0 is up, line protocol is up Hardware is AmdFE, address is 0030.8558.8060 (bia 0030.8558.8060) Internet address is 12.145.235.254/23 MTU 1500 bytes, BW 10 Kbit, DLY 100 usec, reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255 Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set Keepalive set (10 sec) Full-duplex, 100Mb/s, 100BaseTX/FX ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00 Last input 00:00:04, output 00:00:00, output hang never Last clearing of show interface counters 00:01:28 Queueing strategy: fifo Output queue 0/40, 0 drops; input queue 0/75, 0 drops 5 minute input rate 745000 bits/sec, 100 packets/sec 5 minute output rate 102000 bits/sec, 85 packets/sec 9064 packets input, 9837705 bytes Received 1 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored 0 watchdog 0 input packets with dribble condition detected 8003 packets output, 1130789 bytes, 0 underruns(0/0/0) 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets 0 babbles, 0 late collision, 19 deferred 0 lost carrier, 0 no carrier 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out Note the deferred output packets. Can anyone provide some input on what would cause this? The T1 side is not seeing any errors at all. Network is: T1 - Cisco - SonicWall - Switch The SonicWall is configured as a bridge and has been a source of good income for me (lots of time fixing it). I suspect the problem is the SonicWall, but not certain. I plan to bypass the SonicWall, but wanted some input from those more experienced with Cisco as to what I may be able to do to see what is happening on the network from the Cisco's perspective. Thanks for your help. -- Butch Evans BPS Networks http://www.bpsnetworks.com/ Bernie, MO Mikrotik Certified Consultant (http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html) -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
