[WISPA] anyone serving Bulloch County, GA?
More specifically, a little town called Brooklet - an inquiry popped up on a forum earlier about satellite/3g options and I thought I'd look into the possibility of a wireless alternative. TIA. [http://www.inline.com/signatures/inline_logo_signature.jpg] [http://www.inline.com/signatures/el_horizontal_small.jpg] vickie edwards, MPA | Grant Specialist InLine Solutions Through Technology 600 Lakeshore Pkwy Birmingham AL, 35209 205-278-8106 [p] 205-941-1934 [f] vedwa...@inline.com http://www.inline.com/ All Quotes from InLine are only valid for 30 days. This message and any attached files may contain confidential information and are intended solely for the message recipient. If you are not the message recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Searchable Map of Stimulus projects
They went out of their way to encourage gerrymandering in the applications, which included the ability to include covered territory as long as the total number of already covered households was under 50% (which it is in this case as it's been explained to us). Or that there's a less than 40% subscribership rate - a lot of people seem to be forgetting that. That's the only way that a lot of applications will be able to remain in consideration for underserved status, given how difficult it is in most areas to find anywhere with less than 50% availability. InLine vickie edwards, MPA | Grant Specialist InLine Solutions Through Technology 600 Lakeshore Pkwy Birmingham AL, 35209 205-278-8106 [p] 205-941-1934[f] vedwa...@inline.com www.InLine.com All Quotes from InLine are only valid for 30 days. This message and any attached files may contain confidential information and are intended solely for the message recipient. If you are not the message recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Bartosch Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:56 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Searchable Map of Stimulus projects The problem is, it's a fair amount of effort to challenge since *you* have to challenge it at the census block level, just as they had to justify it at the census block level. And if the area is as the poster describes, it's impossible to challenge. He might have a very good reason why he can't reach even 50% of the residents (that's what he said, I'll remind you) in his area. But, it is irrelevant. They don't care *why* you can't reach the other households...they just care that you don't. If this is a big application then it's going to cover far more than his territory anyway, and you will NOT be able to have a section cut out of an otherwise qualifying target census set just because you do cover it. They went out of their way to encourage gerrymandering in the applications, which included the ability to include covered territory as long as the total number of already covered households was under 50% (which it is in this case as it's been explained to us). Chuck On Sep 15, 2009, at 12:16 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote: Yes, It definateately IS appropriate to attempt to BLOCK bad applications. The NTIA/RUS has no way to know if an applcation is innapproriate or in conflict of interest if we dont tell them. Quite honestly, the applicant may not know it is in conflict of interest without telling them. I specifically hate applacation that just selected 1 HUGE contiguous area. The reason is, they did't take the time that they should ahve to look down to the census block level to determine what blocks really are and aren't underserved areas. If anything it is the LARGE AREA applicants that are attempting to scam the system, to get grant money for served areas, with the hope no one will protest it. There is nothing wrong with competition. But this grant is NOT creating competition. It is giving the applicant a SUPER HUGE advantage over any other pre-existing provider in the area, and that is anti-American,and anti-fair-competition in my mind. To give a new provider a free network, and the existing provider no funds, is a disaster plan to put pre-existing businesses out of business, and to risk throwing away the much investment made by those original entreprenures. What I recommend is that people diligently protest, but with fact, and suggested resolution. The goal should NOT to prevent the party from gaining a grant to serve truely underserved/unserved areas, but to instead incourage NTIA/RUS to force the applicant to revise its applicant to remedy the conflict of Interest. Also note that once an area gets a grant, it very possible that NTIA/RUS may never give another grant to that same area. When this is done at the Census Block level it is no problem, because applicants can narrow down to each area that they serve and dont serve. But when someone lists an ENTIRE County, it risks that future legitimate application for needy census blocks will be denied because of the area being recorded as already served by a grant applicant. Is it right for an Entire county to be given to a new provider? Remember applicants are required to serve ALL customer in an area. That means they will be getting grant money to put you out of business. I also
Re: [WISPA] Google Earth Census Tract
Finally catching up on my list messages, and saw that there was another thread about this as well. The shapefiles provided by the Census Bureau CAN be imported into Google Earth on a county-by-county basis. Not sure exactly HOW, because I'm not the one who personally imported them, but it can be done with the use of some other software. Anyway, this is how I was able to get an accurate list of the blocks to be covered in our grant. The info comes with all the different levels of census coding, down to block and sub-block, and if you're good with a text editor (as you should be!), you can extract an actual list of the blocks/tracts/whatever you serve from the XML/KML file. Unfortunately, the only way to get the file narrowed down to the ones you're covering, that I've found so far, is to manually delete every block that isn't covered... which takes a long time, but probably not as long as it would to otherwise figure out the blocks. InLine vickie edwards, MPA | Grant Specialist InLine Solutions Through Technology 600 Lakeshore Pkwy Birmingham AL, 35209 205-278-8106 [p] 205-941-1934[f] vedwa...@inline.com www.InLine.com All Quotes from InLine are only valid for 30 days. This message and any attached files may contain confidential information and are intended solely for the message recipient. If you are not the message recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 10:04 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Google Earth Census Tract Is there a Google Earth Overlay with Census Tracts out there. Form 477 setup. Steve Barnes Manager PCS-WIN RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthened, vision cleared, ambition inspired, and success achieved. - Helen Keller WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] speaking of partnerships...
We're currently looking for wireless companies in and around southern Mississippi that would be interested in a partnership. I'm also interested in hearing from anyone in west and south Alabama for a potential project. If this is you, or you know a WISP that is interested, please email or call me ASAP so we can get together on this. Thanks! Vickie Edwards InLine vickie edwards, MPA | Grant Specialist InLine Connections Solutions Through Technology 600 Lakeshore Pkwy Birmingham AL, 35209 205-278-8106 [p] 205-941-1934[f] vedwa...@inline.com www.InLine.com All Quotes from InLine are only valid for 30 days. This message and any attached files may contain confidential information and are intended solely for the message recipient. If you are not the message recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] The Exploding Internet.
Curious that Russia isn't on that infographic - I'd love to know their take rates. InLine vickie edwards, MPA | Grant Specialist InLine Connections Solutions Through Technology 600 Lakeshore Pkwy Birmingham AL, 35209 205-278-8106 [p] 205-941-1934[f] vedwa...@inline.com www.InLine.com All Quotes from InLine are only valid for 30 days. This message and any attached files may contain confidential information and are intended solely for the message recipient. If you are not the message recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scottie Arnett Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 7:10 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Cc: motor...@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] The Exploding Internet. http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/2988/27062201.jpg Interesting. Scottie Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Local County Fair
I think that would be a better idea... redirect those domains to a splash screen saying that the connection is for demo purposes only. Maybe allow something like Hulu to go through, so that you could show streaming speed (not YouTube, obviously), but keep the social networking sites blocked. Also, I'd suggest posting a sign asking people to limit their time to 10 minutes since it's a demo, and require that children be accompanied by a parent or guardian. After all, you don't want them to discover that YOU are letting their precious snowflakes view adult content on the demo machines - that would be a business killer. InLine vickie edwards, MPA | Grant Specialist InLine Connections Solutions Through Technology 600 Lakeshore Pkwy Birmingham AL, 35209 205-278-8106 [p] 205-941-1934[f] vedwa...@inline.com www.InLine.com All Quotes from InLine are only valid for 30 days. This message and any attached files may contain confidential information and are intended solely for the message recipient. If you are not the message recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Adam Kennedy Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 11:41 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Local County Fair Or just block myspace, facebook, twitter, etc. on those computers On 5/19/09 6:21 PM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: You might try just doing free wifi hotspots for people around the fair. Force them to a splash page that tells them you are giving the wireless away and that you can provide it to their homes (for a fee) as well. Beyond that, you might try getting a flyer in all of the fair stuff etc. I'd also not be afraid of keeping the kids off of the computers. At least make them have a parent with them. That'll keep the crowds down so that the adults will be able to get to you etc. have fun! marlon - Original Message - From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 6:28 AM Subject: [WISPA] Local County Fair Being a very Rural WISP 90% of my clients and potential clients will attend the local County 4-H fair. For years I have had a booth in the commercial building. I setup a really sharp booth (trade-show type) and a fancy computer that I sell in my shop and 2 small systems as WIFI demo units. What I end up with is from 12 noon to 9:00 in the evening I have to have staff there to baby sit the 4-H kids who are board and want to sit and play on YouTube, Facebook, and MySpace. The last 2 years we have not sold a single computer, and have setup few wireless clients. It is great PR. People ask questions when they can get to you through all the Kids. Anyone else do anything like this. What do you do. Is there a good Kiosk system that you can put up to help people get info. I need a better plan that I don't have to baby sit 9 hours a day. I don't have the time to do this myself this year (have my own kids in 4-H with horses and other animals). Any Ideas. Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Adam Kennedy Senior Network Administrator Cyberlink Technologies, Inc. Phone: 888-293-3693 x4352 Fax: 574-855-5761 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Response to the FCC Regarding Form 477
You're actually fairly lucky when it comes to figuring out what census tract your customers are in - NE and WY have very large census tracts. I can understand why this would be a better way to go about collecting data than ZIP codes (in the most rural areas around here, one extremely rural area will be bundled into the ZIP for a smaller town that has access, and so you'll see the ZIP listed on 477 data as having 5 providers when there's really nothing but satellite available). But you are right, census tract data is not something that ANYONE collects unless they're doing academic research or compiling government data (as is the case here). I'm sure you've seen this already, but for those that haven't, hopefully it'll help.. of course the map will change again next year for the new census. http://www.census.gov/geo/www/maps/descriptwindows/outline.htm InLine vickie edwards, MPA | Grant Specialist InLine Connections Solutions Through Technology 600 Lakeshore Pkwy Birmingham AL, 35209 205-278-8106 [p] 205-941-1934[f] vedwa...@inline.com www.InLine.com All Quotes from InLine are only valid for 30 days. This message and any attached files may contain confidential information and are intended solely for the message recipient. If you are not the message recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 11:50 AM To: WISPA General List; w...@part-15.org; Motorola Canopy User Group Subject: [WISPA] Response to the FCC Regarding Form 477 I thought I would share this email that I just sent to the FCC regarding the Form 477 report. I am late filing this report because we don't have accurate data and thought that my reasons why were worth sharing with my colleagues. I support what the FCC is trying to do with Form477, but was not able to in good conscience turn in our data by the report deadline. I hope that this is valuable to some of you out there. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com --- Hi Suzanne, I am not really in a position where I can give a projected date to have this information completed for you. However, I do feel it would be valuable to explain why and provide you and your management some more information as to why I am unable to give you a better date on when we intend to have it completed. For background, Vistabeam (Inventive Wireless of Nebraska) is a wireless ISP that covers about 40,000 square miles in Nebraska and Wyoming. We have around 2000 customers spread out across this very thinly populated area. Even though we are quite small in customer number compared to other ISPs, we have a very good billing and provisioning system and quite a bit of detail on our customers. However, we did not have census tract information for our customers as there had never been a need for it until the latest Form477 notice came out earlier this year. Once we received the Form477 notice, we made plans to modify our billing system to add the census tract information, which we were successful in doing. We also studied how to obtain geocoding information from multiple sources and how to integrate this into our database so that we could complete the report. Our initial integration seemed to be successful until we started to look at the geocoding data that we received and realized that over 50% of the census tract information was invalid. After going through this data, we found that many of the addresses we have for customers are simply not being processed and located correctly. The majority of our customers are in rural areas with references to CR and Road xxx and other rural address forms that the geocoding engines simply cannot process. Many of these rural counties do not have GIS departments with the ability to provide the geocoding information for these addresses. In the event that the address doesn't code, the geocoding engine returns the census tract information for the nearest Post Office, which is not in the correct census tract. To get the correct information, we basically have two options. Option #1 is to drive out to every customer with a GPS unit and record the information into our system. Since we have approximately 1100 customers with inaccurate information, this is going to be a time consuming process and would cost us several thousand dollars to collect - not to mention the lost man hours. Option #2 is to go through each customer
Re: [WISPA] What do you charge for a wireless router setup?
Geek Squad was always Best Buy, Circuit City had something called FireDog IIRC InLine vickie edwards, MPA | Grant Specialist InLine Connections Solutions Through Technology 600 Lakeshore Pkwy Birmingham AL, 35209 205-278-8106 [p] 205-941-1934[f] vedwa...@inline.com www.InLine.com All Quotes from InLine are only valid for 30 days. This message and any attached files may contain confidential information and are intended solely for the message recipient. If you are not the message recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 12:07 PM To: Joe Miller; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] What do you charge for a wireless router setup? I believe Best Buy. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Joe Miller joemiller...@yahoo.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] What do you charge for a wireless router setup? Wasn't the GeekSquad working out of the Curcuit City stores? Where are they now? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] NTIA mapping
I'd like to echo my own previous statements that I believe a lot of the mapping efforts will be run through the states. Here in AL, there's been a mapping program underway and we're expecting to see preliminary maps by the end of next month. The best thing that you as a WISP can do, apart from submitting a grant of your own, is to make regular contact (to the extent that it doesn't become annoying) with the officials on your state's broadband task force/authority/whatever. If you're on their good side and know that you have the capability to do some of the mapping work, you'll be the one they look to when they go after the money. InLine vickie edwards, MPA | Grant Specialist InLine Connections Solutions Through Technology 600 Lakeshore Pkwy Birmingham AL, 35209 205-278-8106 [p] 205-941-1934[f] vedwa...@inline.com www.InLine.com All Quotes from InLine are only valid for 30 days. This message and any attached files may contain confidential information and are intended solely for the message recipient. If you are not the message recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 3:02 PM To: bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] NTIA mapping Brian, Thats where I disagree. I'm surprised to hear it come from you. Quick Note: Just two years ago, CN was nobody. They have gotten clout because they got off their hind side and started working on a solution to the problem. But CN has had lots of critisim, they are not invincible. What you should be doing is writting your ticket to financial freedom, by preparing plans for WISPs. Grant awardees can't write checks to themselves, but they can write checks to their solution providers and contractors necessary to fullfil their obligations of and goals for their grants. Brian, many WISPs like your work and see the value, but aren't paying you now for services because they simply don't have the budget for it. The grant program is an opportunity to get in in the budget. If mapping isn't included in their grant apps, it won't likely be in their budget after their award either. It might be hard to get a seperate grant for mapping. But its real easy to add a line item to an existing application. If I were you, I'd be putting togeather the deluxe package for WISPs to include in their applications, and it doesn't have to be cheaper. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 10:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] NTIA mapping Amen Rick I've always maintained the thought that the 350 Million was another back door political payback to the Telco and cable companies via Connected Nation. With the fact that this funding gets put out there and then the data never really becomes available because of the NDA's signed, it just smells like a pork barrel project to me. Your explanation just backs up that idea. If you want to map broadband, go to a small organization like myself. We can do the work for tenths of a penny on the dollar these guys are quoting. You just build that cost in to the rest of your stimulus project and move on. Trying to take on Connected Nation is a losing battle. Just step around them and move forward..there are plenty of ways to map the competitive broadband in a market without proprietary data and you can successfully do it to convince the organizations that are handing out money. Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 7:23 PM To: ccoo...@intelliwave.com; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] NTIA mapping Chris, It is my understanding that this bill was specifically written for Connected Nation. In a conversation today in Indianapolis I was told that if you divide $350 million by 50 states you get $7,000,000 per state. This is approximately 80% of the $9,000,000 contract they recently signed with Ohio or Tennessee. The 80% number coincidentally matches up with the current thinking on the Broadband Stimulus Grants with 20% coming from the awardees and 80% coming from the Federal Government
Re: [WISPA] Broadband Stimulus Link
www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants The rules won't be out for at least two more weeks, I expect them by the end of next month. The only new federal funding guidance out is for Community Connect. InLine vickie edwards, MPA | Grant Specialist InLine Connections Solutions Through Technology 600 Lakeshore Pkwy Birmingham AL, 35209 205-278-8106 [p] 205-941-1934[f] vedwa...@inline.com www.InLine.com All Quotes from InLine are only valid for 30 days. This message and any attached files may contain confidential information and are intended solely for the message recipient. If you are not the message recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 6:57 PM To: Motorola Canopy User Group; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Broadband Stimulus Link any good link for detailed info on the Stimulus plan? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] NTIA mapping
Possibly, but I think it's more likely that the mapping money will go to the states or big academic groups that are doing comprehensive maps over wide geographic areas. Again, it's a wait-and-see sort of thing, since the BTOP guidelines aren't out yet. InLine vickie edwards, MPA | Grant Specialist InLine Connections Solutions Through Technology 600 Lakeshore Pkwy Birmingham AL, 35209 205-278-8106 [p] 205-941-1934[f] vedwa...@inline.com www.InLine.com All Quotes from InLine are only valid for 30 days. This message and any attached files may contain confidential information and are intended solely for the message recipient. If you are not the message recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of chris cooper Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 10:01 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] NTIA mapping There is a $350 million mapping component set aside under BTOP. Will this funding be available in smaller chunks to successful grantees to map their expanded networks? Will it be available to all wisps to map their existing networks in an effort to add to the overall national BB map? Chris Cooper Intelliwave WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RUS Availability
Tom's right, Community Connect is from the 2008 Farm Bill. The requirements this year are practically identical - the ONLY significant changes in the guidance that I see are in how they've structured the guidance on matching funds and in-kind, and in that case it's just a change in how they presented the same material. Also, the eligible costs section has been clarified to show the maximum amounts are included on page 19 (it was only shown on page 33 in the formal rule section of last year's documents). InLine vickie edwards, MPA | Grant Specialist InLine Connections Solutions Through Technology 600 Lakeshore Pkwy Birmingham AL, 35209 205-278-8106 [p] 205-941-1934[f] vedwa...@inline.com www.InLine.com All Quotes from InLine are only valid for 30 days. This message and any attached files may contain confidential information and are intended solely for the message recipient. If you are not the message recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 8:32 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RUS Availability The Community Connect program has nothing to do with ARRA, and is seperate. (I believe from the Farm bill?) It has been an ongoing program for years. It is one of the true programs for expanding broadband to the MOST RURAL portions of America, and been highly successful for that purpose. Then there is ARRA funds, the program for the rest of us. :-) So that we will have opportunity to win grants for areas that have more than 500 people and have average incomes higher than the poverty level. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 9:08 AM Subject: [WISPA] RUS Availability http://www.usda.gov/rus/telecom/commconnect.htm Is that because of the Farm Bill vs. the ARRA? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator
ThinkGeek has 3 different models of the Kill-a-Watt, as well as another meter-type gadget: http://www.thinkgeek.com/brain/whereisit.cgi?t=kill+a+wattx=0y=0 InLine vickie edwards, MPA | Grant Specialist InLine Connections Solutions Through Technology 600 Lakeshore Pkwy Birmingham AL, 35209 205-278-8106 [p] 205-941-1934[f] vedwa...@inline.com www.InLine.com All Quotes from InLine are only valid for 30 days. This message and any attached files may contain confidential information and are intended solely for the message recipient. If you are not the message recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of J. Vogel Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 11:34 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator Got a link or a model number for that new Kill-a-Watt? I can't find any info about it on their site. John Marlon K. Schafer wrote: My biggest site (something like 9 radios now) is drawing under 20 watts these days. Closer to 15 if my memory serves. To get that number I used one of the new kill-a-watt units that has an ethernet port on it. A bit spendy but very cool. It allows me to remotely (through a company web site, not my own) monitor what's going on at a tower. It will also do power cycling! Other than the fact that it has to be sent to the factory to get firmware updates (how's that for old fashioned?) I love the unit. marlon - Original Message - From: Brian Rohrbacher br...@reliableinter.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 12:55 PM Subject: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator I have a new tower site and the owner ask how much electric I will use. How can I calculate that? For now all I will have is one 24v 2amp power supply going to a rb433ah with an xr2 omni and a xr5 backhaul. I can roughly guess the price per kilowatt hr but I need to get an estimate on kw/hr first. Brian WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- John Vogel - jvo...@vogent.net http://www.vogent.net 620-754-3907 Vogel Enterprises LLC Information Services Provider serving S.E. Kansas WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ya Know......
It's understandable that you think this is a proper forum for such venting. However, it really, really isn't. While I'm sure that most of the members of this list (myself included) have the capability for schadenfreude and love a good trainwreck, this is a list for internet professionals to discuss technical and logistics matters. At best, you seem petty. At worst, you're damaging your reputation among other WISPs and professionals, and that can be irreparable. InLine vickie edwards, MPA | Grant Specialist InLine Connections Solutions Through Technology 600 Lakeshore Pkwy Birmingham AL, 35209 205-278-8106 [p] 205-941-1934[f] vedwa...@inline.com www.InLine.com All Quotes from InLine are only valid for 30 days. This message and any attached files may contain confidential information and are intended solely for the message recipient. If you are not the message recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ya Know.. After reading this again. No... What would have been better for Bob in the first place is if the other party (who is a WISPA member) would have conducted themselves in a professional manner and sent payments when he said he was going to and not play' me. I suppose I should be professional and return his deposit too??? Maybe I should give him interest on his $500 too while I had it in my bank. I almost sent the money I promised to donate to WISPA on the sale of this link out of the deposit. Fortunately for me and unfortunately for WISPA I didn't. So what the other party did was unprofessional. So...If this is a professional organization maybe he shouldn't be a member because he doesn't meet the professional criteria. I didn't name any names so I don't know what the issue is. So many people here bitch about the FCC, the rules, manufacturer's handling of RMA's, repairs, price, delivery, tower companies, throughput, RF interference, etc, etc. Please don't single me out. It won't work. And I don't want to be the person who points out when others are being unprofessional. -B- Matt Liotta wrote: Except of course that isn't professional. And, while I have many times wanted to complain about some other WISP in public I won't because it isn't professional. What would have been better for Bob in the first place and for the rest of us always; would be simply for each other to treat their peers with respect. This is supposed to be a professional organization after all. -Matt On Apr 16, 2009, at 4:42 PM, Brad Belton wrote: Geesh...that sucks Bob. I'd almost say a public flogging of the perp is in order...grin Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Ya Know.. The world is really full of losers. After 6 weeks of BS and a down payment check of $500 I once again have another happy list member backing out of the purchase of the 200 Mb Dragonwave link that I have. Nothing like wasting my time. The reason given is that he doesn't feel that the link will perform at 1 mile EVEN WITH 4' FREAKIN' DISHES There is nothing worse than someone who can't just say something like I can't afford it or something real like that. No...the excuse is a 23 Ghz. FD link won't work over 1 mile in the southwest RELIABLY.AUGH And get this.He wants his deposit back! I have to laugh I will not identify who the person or entity is as they are on this list. I will let him defend himself if he wishes too. (BTW: I have ALL the e-mails so I can support my side so please don't try to come up with another story dude...) OKNow. Here is the last chance if someone wants it. Dragonwave 200 Mb Airpair all outdoor link, 23 Ghz. FDX with your choice of 2' (new) or 4' used antennas. The link was in service for a little over 1 year. has a fiber interface and power supplies for each side. I will guarantee it will work as advertised. I will also give anyone that is sincerely interested the serial numbers and you can call Dragonwave and see for yourself that this link never had a problem. The first $7K gets it. You pay shipping. No discount
Re: [WISPA] need info about wireless and RF power
Thanks! Hopefully the sites at the bottom of the document will have something useful in them. InLine vickie edwards, MPA | Grant Specialist InLine Connections Solutions Through Technology 600 Lakeshore Pkwy Birmingham AL, 35209 205-278-8106 [p] 205-941-1934[f] vedwa...@inline.com www.InLine.com All Quotes from InLine are only valid for 30 days. This message and any attached files may contain confidential information and are intended solely for the message recipient. If you are not the message recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Suitor Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 12:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] need info about wireless and RF power How about this? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Vickie Edwards Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 11:49 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] need info about wireless and RF power The tinfoil hat people are going nuts on the NTIA/RUS public comment site about how 'people are sensitive to EM' and such.. I don't think that they're going to be taken too seriously (they're all pasting in a form letter or something near to the form letter, with only one peer-reviewed scientific report to back them up), but I'm doing some research to see if I can find a mass of good, inconclusive articles to shut them down. The problem is that I don't understand the relative strength of the RF exposure that these scientific articles are using. One that I've been looking at this morning put some mice in an 'antenna farm' with power ranging from 168-1053 nW/cm^2... could anyone enlighten me as to what the 'normal' amount of power a wireless transmitter would put out at various ranges? Abstract here: http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/48960/abstract I'll gladly share my findings/draft rebuttal with the list. Also, if you haven't submitted comments for the BTOP program yet, I REALLY encourage you to do so! Thanks! InLine vickie edwards, MPA | Grant Specialist InLine Connections Solutions Through Technology 600 Lakeshore Pkwy Birmingham AL, 35209 205-278-8106 [p] 205-941-1934[f] vedwa...@inline.com www.InLine.com All Quotes from InLine are only valid for 30 days. This message and any attached files may contain confidential information and are intended solely for the message recipient. If you are not the message recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] need info about wireless and RF power
The tinfoil hat people are going nuts on the NTIA/RUS public comment site about how 'people are sensitive to EM' and such.. I don't think that they're going to be taken too seriously (they're all pasting in a form letter or something near to the form letter, with only one peer-reviewed scientific report to back them up), but I'm doing some research to see if I can find a mass of good, inconclusive articles to shut them down. The problem is that I don't understand the relative strength of the RF exposure that these scientific articles are using. One that I've been looking at this morning put some mice in an 'antenna farm' with power ranging from 168-1053 nW/cm^2... could anyone enlighten me as to what the 'normal' amount of power a wireless transmitter would put out at various ranges? Abstract here: http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/48960/abstract I'll gladly share my findings/draft rebuttal with the list. Also, if you haven't submitted comments for the BTOP program yet, I REALLY encourage you to do so! Thanks! InLine vickie edwards, MPA | Grant Specialist InLine Connections Solutions Through Technology 600 Lakeshore Pkwy Birmingham AL, 35209 205-278-8106 [p] 205-941-1934[f] vedwa...@inline.com www.InLine.com All Quotes from InLine are only valid for 30 days. This message and any attached files may contain confidential information and are intended solely for the message recipient. If you are not the message recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
