[WISPA] anyone serving Bulloch County, GA?

2009-10-22 Thread Vickie Edwards
More specifically, a little town called Brooklet - an inquiry popped up on a 
forum earlier about satellite/3g options and I thought I'd look into the 
possibility of a wireless alternative.

TIA.

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Re: [WISPA] Searchable Map of Stimulus projects

2009-09-15 Thread Vickie Edwards
" They went out of their way to encourage "gerrymandering" in
the applications, which included the ability to include covered
territory as long as the total number of already covered households
was under 50% (which it is in this case as it's been explained to us)."

Or that there's a less than 40% subscribership rate - a lot of people seem to 
be forgetting that. That's the only way that a lot of applications will be able 
to remain in consideration for underserved status, given how difficult it is in 
most areas to find anywhere with less than 50% availability.


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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Chuck Bartosch
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:56 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Searchable Map of Stimulus projects

The problem is, it's a fair amount of effort to challenge since *you*
have to challenge it at the census block level, just as they had to
justify it at the census block level.

And if the area is as the poster describes, it's impossible to
challenge. He might have a very good reason why he can't reach even
50% of the residents (that's what he said, I'll remind you) in his
area. But, it is irrelevant. They don't care *why* you can't reach the
other households...they just care that you don't.

If this is a big application then it's going to cover far more than
his territory anyway, and you will NOT be able to have a section cut
out of an otherwise qualifying target census set just because you do
cover it. They went out of their way to encourage "gerrymandering" in
the applications, which included the ability to include covered
territory as long as the total number of already covered households
was under 50% (which it is in this case as it's been explained to us).

Chuck

On Sep 15, 2009, at 12:16 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote:

> Yes, It definateately IS appropriate to attempt to BLOCK bad
> applications.
> The NTIA/RUS has no way to know if an applcation is innapproriate or
> in
> conflict of interest if we dont tell them.
> Quite honestly, the applicant may not know it is in conflict of
> interest
> without telling them.
>
> I specifically hate applacation that just selected 1 HUGE contiguous
> area.
> The reason is, they did't take the time that they should ahve to
> look down
> to the census block level to determine what blocks really are and
> aren't
> underserved areas. If anything it is the LARGE AREA applicants that
> are
> attempting to scam the system, to get grant money for served areas,
> with the
> hope no one will protest it.
>
> There is nothing wrong with competition. But this grant is NOT
> creating
> competition. It is giving the applicant a SUPER HUGE advantage over
> any
> other pre-existing provider in the area, and that is anti-American,and
> anti-fair-competition in my mind.
>
> To give a new provider a free network, and the existing provider no
> funds,
> is a disaster plan to put pre-existing businesses out of business,
> and to
> risk throwing away the much investment made by those original
> entreprenures.
>
> What I recommend is that people diligently protest, but with fact, and
> suggested resolution. The goal should NOT to prevent the party from
> gaining
> a grant to serve truely underserved/unserved areas, but to instead
> incourage
> NTIA/RUS to force the applicant to revise its applicant to remedy the
> conflict of Interest.  Also note that once an area gets a grant, it
> very
> possible that NTIA/RUS may never give another grant to that same
> area.  When
> this is done at the Census Block level it is no problem, because
> applicants
> can narrow down to each area that they serve and dont serve. But when
> someone lists an ENTIRE County, it risks that future legitimate
> application
> for needy cen

Re: [WISPA] Google Earth Census Tract

2009-08-25 Thread Vickie Edwards
Finally catching up on my list messages, and saw that there was another thread 
about this as well.

The shapefiles provided by the Census Bureau CAN be imported into Google Earth 
on a county-by-county basis. Not sure exactly HOW, because I'm not the one who 
personally imported them, but it can be done with the use of some other 
software.

Anyway, this is how I was able to get an accurate list of the blocks to be 
covered in our grant. The info comes with all the different levels of census 
coding, down to block and sub-block, and if you're good with a text editor (as 
you should be!), you can extract an actual list of the blocks/tracts/whatever 
you serve from the XML/KML file.

Unfortunately, the only way to get the file narrowed down to the ones you're 
covering, that I've found so far, is to manually delete every block that isn't 
covered... which takes a long time, but probably not as long as it would to 
otherwise figure out the blocks.



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Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 10:04 AM
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Subject: [WISPA] Google Earth Census Tract

Is there a Google Earth Overlay with Census Tracts out there. Form 477 setup.

Steve Barnes
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[WISPA] speaking of partnerships...

2009-07-28 Thread Vickie Edwards
We're currently looking for wireless companies in and around southern
Mississippi that would be interested in a partnership. I'm also
interested in hearing from anyone in west and south Alabama for a
potential project.

 

If this is you, or you know a WISP that is interested, please email or
call me ASAP so we can get together on this.

 

Thanks!

 

Vickie Edwards

 
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Re: [WISPA] The Exploding Internet.

2009-07-22 Thread Vickie Edwards
Curious that Russia isn't on that infographic - I'd love to know their
take rates.

 
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Interesting.
Scottie

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Re: [WISPA] Local County Fair

2009-05-20 Thread Vickie Edwards
I think that would be a better idea... redirect those domains to a
splash screen saying that the connection is for demo purposes only.
Maybe allow something like Hulu to go through, so that you could show
streaming speed (not YouTube, obviously), but keep the social networking
sites blocked.

Also, I'd suggest posting a sign asking people to limit their time to 10
minutes since it's a demo, and require that children be accompanied by a
parent or guardian. After all, you don't want them to discover that YOU
are letting their precious snowflakes view adult content on the demo
machines - that would be a business killer.

 
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Adam Kennedy
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 11:41 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Local County Fair

Or just block myspace, facebook, twitter, etc. on those computers


On 5/19/09 6:21 PM, "Marlon K. Schafer"  wrote:

> You might try just doing free wifi hotspots for people around the
fair.
> Force them to a splash page that tells them you are giving the
wireless away
> and that you can provide it to their homes (for a fee) as well.
> 
> Beyond that, you might try getting a flyer in all of the fair stuff
etc.
> 
> I'd also not be afraid of keeping the kids off of the computers.  At
least
> make them have a parent with them.  That'll keep the crowds down so
that the
> adults will be able to get to you etc.
> 
> have fun!
> marlon
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Steve Barnes" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 6:28 AM
> Subject: [WISPA] Local County Fair
> 
> 
>> Being a very Rural WISP 90% of my clients and potential clients will
>> attend the local County 4-H fair.  For years I have had a booth in
the
>> commercial building.  I setup a really sharp booth (trade-show type)
and a
>> fancy computer that I sell in my shop and 2 small systems as WIFI
demo
>> units.
>> 
>> What I end up with is from 12 noon to 9:00 in the evening I have to
have
>> staff there to baby sit the 4-H kids who are board and want to sit
and
>> play on YouTube, Facebook, and MySpace. The last 2 years we have not
sold
>> a single computer, and have setup few wireless clients.
>> 
>> It is great PR.  People ask questions when they can get to you
through all
>> the Kids.
>> 
>> Anyone else do anything like this.  What do you do.  Is there a good
Kiosk
>> system that you can put up to help people get info.  I need a better
plan
>> that I don't have to baby sit 9 hours a day. I don't have the time to
do
>> this myself this year (have my own kids in 4-H with horses and other
>> animals).
>> 
>> Any Ideas.
>> 
>> Steve Barnes
>> RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service
>> 
>> 
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Re: [WISPA] Response to the FCC Regarding Form 477

2009-05-06 Thread Vickie Edwards
You're actually fairly lucky when it comes to figuring out what census
tract your customers are in - NE and WY have very large census tracts. I
can understand why this would be a better way to go about collecting
data than ZIP codes (in the most rural areas around here, one extremely
rural area will be bundled into the ZIP for a smaller town that has
access, and so you'll see the ZIP listed on 477 data as having 5
providers when there's really nothing but satellite available). But you
are right, census tract data is not something that ANYONE collects
unless they're doing academic research or compiling government data (as
is the case here).

I'm sure you've seen this already, but for those that haven't, hopefully
it'll help.. of course the map will change again next year for the new
census.

http://www.census.gov/geo/www/maps/descriptwindows/outline.htm


 
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 11:50 AM
To: WISPA General List; w...@part-15.org; Motorola Canopy User Group
Subject: [WISPA] Response to the FCC Regarding Form 477

I thought I would share this email that I just sent to the FCC regarding

the Form 477 report. I am late filing this report because we don't have 
accurate data and thought that my reasons why were worth sharing with my

colleagues. I support what the FCC is trying to do with Form477, but was

not able to in good conscience turn in our data by the report deadline.

I hope that this is valuable to some of you out there.

Matt Larsen
vistabeam.com

---

Hi Suzanne,

I am not really in a position where I can give a projected date to have 
this information completed for you. However, I do feel it would be 
valuable to explain why and provide you and your management some more 
information as to why I am unable to give you a better date on when we 
intend to have it completed.

For background, Vistabeam (Inventive Wireless of Nebraska) is a wireless

ISP that covers about 40,000 square miles in Nebraska and Wyoming. We 
have around 2000 customers spread out across this very thinly populated 
area. Even though we are quite small in customer number compared to 
other ISPs, we have a very good billing and provisioning system and 
quite a bit of detail on our customers. However, we did not have census 
tract information for our customers as there had never been a need for 
it until the latest Form477 notice came out earlier this year.

Once we received the Form477 notice, we made plans to modify our billing

system to add the census tract information, which we were successful in 
doing. We also studied how to obtain geocoding information from multiple

sources and how to integrate this into our database so that we could 
complete the report. Our initial integration seemed to be successful 
until we started to look at the geocoding data that we received and 
realized that over 50% of the census tract information was invalid.

After going through this data, we found that many of the addresses we 
have for customers are simply not being processed and located correctly.

The majority of our customers are in rural areas with references to "CR"

and "Road xxx" and other rural address forms that the geocoding engines 
simply cannot process. Many of these rural counties do not have GIS 
departments with the ability to provide the geocoding information for 
these addresses. In the event that the address doesn't code, the 
geocoding engine returns the census tract information for the nearest 
Post Office, which is not in the correct census tract.

To get the correct information, we basically have two options.

Option #1 is to drive out to every customer with a GPS unit and record 
the information into our system. Since we have approximately 1100 
customers with inaccurate information, this is going to be a time 
consuming process and would cost us several thousand dollars to co

Re: [WISPA] What do you charge for a wireless router setup?

2009-05-05 Thread Vickie Edwards
Geek Squad was always Best Buy, Circuit City had something called
FireDog IIRC

 
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Blake Bowers
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 12:07 PM
To: Joe Miller; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] What do you charge for a wireless router setup?

I believe Best Buy.


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Wasn't the GeekSquad working out of the "Curcuit City" stores? Where are

they now?







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Re: [WISPA] NTIA mapping

2009-04-29 Thread Vickie Edwards
I'd like to echo my own previous statements that I believe a lot of the
mapping efforts will be run through the states. Here in AL, there's been
a mapping program underway and we're expecting to see preliminary maps
by the end of next month. The best thing that you as a WISP can do,
apart from submitting a grant of your own, is to make regular contact
(to the extent that it doesn't become annoying) with the officials on
your state's broadband task force/authority/whatever. 

If you're on their good side and know that you have the capability to do
some of the mapping work, you'll be the one they look to when they go
after the money. 


 
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 3:02 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] NTIA mapping

Brian,

Thats where I disagree. I'm surprised to hear it come from you.

Quick Note: Just two years ago, CN was nobody.  They have gotten clout 
because they got off their hind side and started working on a solution
to 
the problem. But CN has had lots of critisim, they are not invincible.

What you should be doing is writting your ticket to financial freedom,
by 
preparing plans for WISPs.
Grant awardees can't write checks to themselves, but they can write
checks 
to their solution providers and contractors necessary to fullfil their 
obligations of and goals for their grants.

Brian, many WISPs like your work and see the value, but aren't paying
you 
now for services because they simply don't have the budget for it. The
grant 
program is an opportunity to get in "in the budget". If mapping isn't 
included in their grant apps, it won't likely be in their budget after
their 
award either.

It might be hard to get a seperate grant for mapping. But its real easy
to 
add a line item to an existing application. If I were you, I'd be
putting 
togeather the "deluxe" package for WISPs to include in their
applications, 
and it doesn't have to be "cheaper".

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Webster" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 10:09 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NTIA mapping


> Amen Rick
>
> I've always maintained the thought that the 350 Million was another
back
> door political payback to the Telco and cable companies via Connected
> Nation. With the fact that this funding gets put out there and then
the 
> data
> never really becomes available because of the NDA's signed, it just
smells
> like a pork barrel project to me. Your explanation just backs up that 
> idea.
>
> If you want to map broadband, go to a small organization like myself.
We 
> can
> do the work for tenths of a penny on the dollar these guys are
quoting. 
> You
> just build that cost in to the rest of your stimulus project and move
on.
> Trying to take on Connected Nation is a losing battle. Just step
around 
> them
> and move forward..there are plenty of ways to map the competitive
> broadband in a market without proprietary data and you can
successfully do
> it to convince the organizations that are handing out money.
>
>
>
> Thank You,
> Brian Webster
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on
> Behalf Of Rick Harnish
> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 7:23 PM
> To: ccoo...@intelliwave.com; 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] NTIA mapping
>
>
> Chris,
>
> It is my understanding that this bill was specifically written for 
> Connected
> Nation.  In a conversation today in Indianapolis I was told that if
you
> divide $350 million by 50 states you get $7,000,000 per state

Re: [WISPA] NTIA mapping

2009-04-28 Thread Vickie Edwards
Possibly, but I think it's more likely that the mapping money will go to
the states or big academic groups that are doing comprehensive maps over
wide geographic areas.

Again, it's a wait-and-see sort of thing, since the BTOP guidelines
aren't out yet.

 
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of chris cooper
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Subject: [WISPA] NTIA mapping

There is a $350 million mapping component set aside under BTOP.  Will
this funding be available in smaller chunks to successful grantees to
map their expanded networks?  Will it be available to all wisps to map
their existing networks in an effort to add to the overall national BB
map?

 

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Re: [WISPA] Broadband Stimulus Link

2009-04-28 Thread Vickie Edwards
www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants

The rules won't be out for at least two more weeks, I expect them by the
end of next month. The only new federal funding guidance out is for
Community Connect.

 
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Subject: [WISPA] Broadband Stimulus Link

any good link for detailed info on the Stimulus plan?
 

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Re: [WISPA] RUS Availability

2009-04-21 Thread Vickie Edwards
Tom's right, Community Connect is from the 2008 Farm Bill.

The requirements this year are practically identical - the ONLY
significant changes in the guidance that I see are in how they've
structured the guidance on matching funds and in-kind, and in that case
it's just a change in how they presented the same material. Also, the
eligible costs section has been clarified to show the maximum amounts
are included on page 19 (it was only shown on page 33 in the formal rule
section of last year's documents).


 
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] RUS Availability

The Community Connect program has nothing to do with ARRA, and is
seperate. 
(I believe from the Farm bill?)
It has been an ongoing program for years.
It is one of the true programs for expanding broadband to the MOST RURAL

portions of America, and been highly successful for that purpose.

Then there is ARRA funds, the program for the rest of us. :-) So that we

will have opportunity to win grants for areas that have more than 500
people 
and have average incomes higher than the poverty level.


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Subject: [WISPA] RUS Availability


> http://www.usda.gov/rus/telecom/commconnect.htm
>
> Is that because of the Farm Bill vs. the ARRA?
>
>
> -
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Re: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator

2009-04-20 Thread Vickie Edwards
ThinkGeek has 3 different models of the Kill-a-Watt, as well as another
meter-type gadget:

http://www.thinkgeek.com/brain/whereisit.cgi?t=kill+a+watt&x=0&y=0


 
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Got a link or a model number for that new Kill-a-Watt?  I can't find any
info about it on their site.

John

Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
> My biggest site (something like 9 radios now) is drawing under 20
watts 
> these days.  Closer to 15 if my memory serves.
>
> To get that number I used one of the new kill-a-watt units that has an

> ethernet port on it.  A bit spendy but very cool.  It allows me to
remotely 
> (through a company web site, not my own) monitor what's going on at a
tower. 
> It will also do power cycling!  Other than the fact that it has to be
sent 
> to the factory to get firmware updates (how's that for old fashioned?)
I 
> love the unit.
> marlon
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Brian Rohrbacher" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 12:55 PM
> Subject: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator
>
>
>   
>> I have a new tower site and the owner ask how much electric I will
use.
>> How can I calculate that?  For now all I will have is one 24v 2amp
power
>> supply going to a rb433ah with an xr2 omni and a xr5 backhaul.
>> I can roughly guess the price per kilowatt hr but I need to get an
>> estimate on kw/hr first.
>>
>> Brian
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Ya Know......

2009-04-16 Thread Vickie Edwards
It's understandable that you think this is a proper forum for such
venting. However, it really, really isn't.

While I'm sure that most of the members of this list (myself included)
have the capability for schadenfreude and love a good trainwreck, this
is a list for internet professionals to discuss technical and logistics
matters.

At best, you seem petty. At worst, you're damaging your reputation among
other WISPs and professionals, and that can be irreparable.

 
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:28 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ya Know..

After reading this again.

No...

What would have been better for Bob in the first place is if the other 
party (who is a WISPA member) would have conducted themselves in a 
professional manner and sent payments when he said he was going to and 
not "play' me. I suppose I should be "professional" and return his 
deposit too??? Maybe I should give him interest on his $500 too while I 
had it in my bank.

I almost sent the money I promised to donate to WISPA on the sale of 
this link out of the deposit.  Fortunately for me and unfortunately for 
WISPA I didn't.

So what the other party did was unprofessional. So...If this is a 
professional organization maybe he shouldn't be a member because he 
doesn't meet the "professional" criteria.

I didn't name any names so I don't know what the issue is.  So many 
people here bitch about the FCC, the rules, manufacturer's handling of 
RMA's, repairs, price, delivery, tower companies, throughput, RF 
interference, etc, etc.

Please don't single me out.  It won't work.  And I don't want to be the 
person who points out when others are being "unprofessional".

-B-






Matt Liotta wrote:
> Except of course that isn't professional. And, while I have many times

> wanted to complain about some other WISP in public I won't because it

> isn't professional. What would have been better for Bob in the first  
> place and for the rest of us always; would be simply for each other to

> treat their peers with respect. This is supposed to be a professional

> organization after all.
>
> -Matt
>
> On Apr 16, 2009, at 4:42 PM, Brad Belton wrote:
>
>   
>> Geesh...that sucks Bob.  I'd almost say a public flogging of the  
>> perp is in
>> order...
>>
>> Brad
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]

>> On
>> Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
>> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:28 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: [WISPA] Ya Know..
>>
>> The world is really full of losers.
>>
>> After 6 weeks of BS and a down payment check of $500 I once again
have
>> another happy list member backing out of the purchase of the 200 Mb
>> Dragonwave link that I have. Nothing like wasting my time. The reason
>> given is that he doesn't feel that  the link will perform at 1 mile  
>> EVEN
>> WITH 4' FREAKIN' DISHES  There is nothing worse than someone who
>> can't just say something like "I can't afford it" or something real  
>> like
>> that.  No...the excuse is a 23 Ghz. FD link won't work over 1 mile in
>> the southwest "RELIABLY".AUGH
>>
>> And get this.He wants his deposit back! I have to laugh
>>
>> I will not identify who the person or entity is as they are on this
>> list.  I will let him defend himself if he wishes too.  (BTW:  I have
>> ALL the e-mails so I can support my side so please don't try to come

>> up
>> with another story dude...)
>>
>>

Re: [WISPA] need info about wireless and RF power

2009-04-09 Thread Vickie Edwards
Thanks! Hopefully the sites at the bottom of the document will have
something useful in them.

 
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
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Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 12:30 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] need info about wireless and RF power

How about this?

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Vickie Edwards
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 11:49 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] need info about wireless and RF power

The tinfoil hat people are going nuts on the NTIA/RUS public comment
site about how 'people are sensitive to EM' and such.. I don't think
that they're going to be taken too seriously (they're all pasting in a
form letter or something near to the form letter, with only one
peer-reviewed scientific report to back them up), but I'm doing some
research to see if I can find a mass of good, inconclusive articles to
shut them down.

 

The problem is that I don't understand the relative strength of the RF
exposure that these scientific articles are using. One that I've been
looking at this morning put some mice in an 'antenna farm' with power
ranging from 168-1053 nW/cm^2... could anyone enlighten me as to what
the 'normal' amount of power a wireless transmitter would put out at
various ranges? Abstract here:
http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/48960/abstract

 

I'll gladly share my findings/draft rebuttal with the list. Also, if you
haven't submitted comments for the BTOP program yet, I REALLY encourage
you to do so!

 

Thanks!

 
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[WISPA] need info about wireless and RF power

2009-04-08 Thread Vickie Edwards
The tinfoil hat people are going nuts on the NTIA/RUS public comment
site about how 'people are sensitive to EM' and such.. I don't think
that they're going to be taken too seriously (they're all pasting in a
form letter or something near to the form letter, with only one
peer-reviewed scientific report to back them up), but I'm doing some
research to see if I can find a mass of good, inconclusive articles to
shut them down.

 

The problem is that I don't understand the relative strength of the RF
exposure that these scientific articles are using. One that I've been
looking at this morning put some mice in an 'antenna farm' with power
ranging from 168-1053 nW/cm^2... could anyone enlighten me as to what
the 'normal' amount of power a wireless transmitter would put out at
various ranges? Abstract here:
http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/48960/abstract

 

I'll gladly share my findings/draft rebuttal with the list. Also, if you
haven't submitted comments for the BTOP program yet, I REALLY encourage
you to do so!

 

Thanks!

 
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