[WISPA] Yup, lemmings
It seems that what we really have is mis-placed priority. Apparently it is more of an outrage to wear fur, than to target an immature industry and push it into extinction. kudos to digg they stood firm with their constituents and re- allowed posting of the hd code crack. http://digg.com/tech_news/Why_posting_the_HD_DVD_key_could_land_webs ites_in_big_trouble kudos to the millions world wide whom have realised the real dangers of DCMA and are fighting it. I ask you guys and gals this... The traffic of interest. What are its characteristics? If it is someone trafficking illegal content to the world at large via encrypted p2p, then obviously that traffic will route and terminate via a core facility at some point. I have toured Broadwing's photonic backbone facilities and there are tap points in place for diagnostic / maintenance / LEA access purposes. That said, it's a moot point to capture traffic off your network if it such that it will ride to any of the core routers. So the focus of the traffic request must be of a more local nature in order for there to be a need to involve you as a network operator. Well, if the LEA has established that 'suspect x' (yes suspect, not guilty till proven guilty remember?) is gaining connectivity via your network, they have either determined this via financial or data capture investigatory methodology. If their concern is to tap the packets of said suspect, why not deploy a team with wireless intercept? It is not outside of their technical capacity, after all, America is the master if sigint/comint. It would NOT be very expensive in equipment nor training to present each LEA with this capacity. Then they could go intercept and sift the materials themselves. The forces at play are much more sinister I think. By placing the onus upon us as business owners, they are shirking both their financial and civil liabilities. Rest assured that the current posture of applying calea to our networks is really pretty much bunk. The very need for the tap to be local to my network means that they are interested in traffic which is both originating and terminating on my network. As such, I say that if they want the data, go park a van and intercept the frames, and do what you need to, but do so with your finances paying for it and put the legal burden and liability of such activity where it belongs... with the LEA themselves. For instance, in my area there are 5 wifi network operators. Rather than each of us operators going to the expense, why net let the 2 or 3 local LEAs purchase and train personnel to handle the intercept? Why create a regulatory burden / liability upon myself as a small operator? The LEAs should be responsible for carrying out their investigations and dealing with the determination of what information is applicable to warrant, not me. Operating as a CLEC we actually have a regulatory affairs department which handles reviewing subpoena, making determination of application, and then (after information specifics are approved) it is handed off to tech department for CDR collection, and/or tap activation and portal access activation. Its really sad to see people bashed for standing up for their rights. I am especially proud of our veterans whom have undertaken the ultimate responsibility of maintaining these rights. Civil disobedience is completely appropriate with regard to this. carry on, be proud, be free! XXX -- Click here to find single Christians that want to meet you today http://tagline.hushmail.com/fc/CAaCXv1VY4cGXTnqMSKvrVGRVaGCmc8R/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Lemmings Followup
Mr. Koskenmaki, I am sorry to see that you felt a flame was directed upon you. Personally, I take the reference to Tim May as an undeserved complement. But Tim's works do pre-date a lot of the younger crowd. BTW, Tim's manifesto is well worthy of the few minutes of time it will take anyone interested to track down and read. First, I want to make it clear that my reason for anonymity has everything to do with not wishing my business related affiliations to be impacted by these posts. I wish it were not so, but the reality is that I do not enjoy separation of work life from personal life in this list. Ok, back to the point, Marlon asked, what should we be doing. EXCELLENT question. SUGGESTIONS of what to do: 1) Inform the AP / UPI that as an industry group, we have decided to stage a cyclic disconnect from public Inet in protest. 2) As a group, inform the subs what we are doing so they are not in the dark and clueless. Try to recruit their support. 3) Present to the press the WISPA member total subs count, and ask for the FCC / Gov to really evaluate the economic impact to GDP per state / national level that shutting off wisps would result in. 4) Also, notify NCTA to please issue a revised broadband survey report with wisp networks removed, thus likely bring the USA from 30th in the world to 40th or 50th in broadband deployment. This MAY have other consequences such as the world bank / OECD may feel obligated to stick their noses into the USA political processes. 5) Most IMPORTANTLY... Expend resources to properly investigate, report, and expose the apparent impropriety that exists in telco / cableco lobby connections to the DOJ and SEC. 6) Begin in an honest effort to negotiate / create secured WIRELESS and/or wholly operator owned wired interconnects amongst WISPA/CLEC networks. 7) Publish ideas for encouraging CO-OP style community network ownership. I feel like the YOKE placed upon WISPs by CALEA compliance requirements is misplaced. Simply put, IMHO, it has been leveraged as a tool to exercise control over your growth. In fact to stifle that growth. I have said enough and my real objective has been accomplished. Signing off now, for good. Thanks to all for your efforts as WISPs and as WISPA members. To Marlon, Scriv, Dave, your efforts and dedication have made this much bigger than I initially thought it could be. Perhaps though, it is time to increase the size of the effort overall and approach the CLEC groups (Comptel/Ascent) members to see if there may be a long term relation which can be formed as an effort to disrupt the reformation of monopolistic practices in the communication systems. I know we can present acceptable options to the American Public at large, and it must start with education, press, and getting the options to be understood. If WISPA forms a committee for integrating with CLECs, I will be keeping watch of your progress, and gladly contribute to said committee from a distance. Peace and Freedom, XXX -- Free health insurance quotes. Great rates for individuals and families. Click Now. http://tagline.hushmail.com/fc/CAaCXv1QUc7pPR9xhMKLHJzdlkTL6iG9/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
