Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps over 10 miles
Paul, I might have said the same thing 6 months ago, but thought I'd mention, we've had all our Giga's operating on the latest Firmware for about a month now. (I was a bit slow to upgrade, cause never convenient to interupt a 300mbps link). Since we switched to it, our Gigas have really been running well. Even the new adaptive modulation has worked well, and proven to upshift back to full speed, when link clears up.. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 8:19 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps over 10 miles You can use Trango but don't go with their Giga product line as it has too many software issues. Apex has been solid for us. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 8:06 PM, George Morris ghmor...@candlelight.ca wrote: It sure is. If ya got the bucks, Exalt or Dragonwave would be my first choices. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 8:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps over 10 miles that is a broad question with many possible answers. what is your budget Sent from my iPhone On Nov 13, 2009, at 4:58 PM, my_em...@webjogger.net my_em...@webjogger.net wrote: Looking to setup a 100Mbps or more link over 10 miles distance. Anyone have comments about what brand they think is good and reliable? It can be either licensed or unlicensed. So far I'm looking at Exalt, Trango, and Dragonwave, but do know which to choose. Thanks, -- Jon Roux Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net 845.757.4000 --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps over 10 miles
I've got a pair of mikropoynts that will test out at 60 or 70 mbps on the wireless side. And it's a REALLY bad install (don't ask, I didn't do the original link). Right down the side of a metal shop, 1/4 mile or so long link. It's been up for months now. Not a single customer call since the old SmartBridges gear came out! marlon - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps over 10 miles You must have some secret that neither Butch nor I have - I've not seen any more then 30 megs on a single 20mhz wireless link. On 11/14/09, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: Why 30 surprise you? We have a very old Nstreme-Dual link going about 1 mile and it has been getting 90Mbps w/ 1ms latency for YEARS. 90% of the problem with MikroTik is that people have no idea how to use it. You don't just plug it in and go. We spent about 3 years learning, tweaking, deploying and testing. Anyway, to answer your question, yes the 1mile 180Mbps link is using R52N card, and Nstreme. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: With the 180meg 1 mile link - I assume that is also r5(2)n? Are you doing N or nstreme? I'm surprised to see anything 30 megs when it comes to Mikrotik. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: Yes, 40MHz. We have a pair of RB333's that go about 1 mile, and get around 180Mbps. Too bad they only have 100Mbps Ethernet. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: 120 megs through one pair of r52n?! I'm assuming this is 40mhz? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: I think we get something in the range of 120Mbps through a pair of MikroTik 411's and R52N wireless cards with 3' PacWireless dishes at 12 miles. 120Mbps on the wireless. Those boards only have 100Mbps Ethernet, so that's a limiting factor. Total cost: $1000 If you're concerned that MT isn't reliable enough, spend $2000 and put up 2 completely diverse links. Though, we have some MT's that have been in service since 2004 and are still cranking away without issue. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 5:57 PM, my_em...@webjogger.net my_em...@webjogger.net wrote: Looking to setup a 100Mbps or more link over 10 miles distance. Anyone have comments about what brand they think is good and reliable? It can be either licensed or unlicensed. So far I'm looking at Exalt, Trango, and Dragonwave, but do know which to choose. Thanks, -- Jon Roux Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net 845.757.4000 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps over 10 miles
30 as he typed would include 256 kbit. You both probably mean 30... which it also can do, just fine. Even reliably. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 11:24 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps over 10 miles Why 30 surprise you? We have a very old Nstreme-Dual link going about 1 mile and it has been getting 90Mbps w/ 1ms latency for YEARS. 90% of the problem with MikroTik is that people have no idea how to use it. You don't just plug it in and go. We spent about 3 years learning, tweaking, deploying and testing. Anyway, to answer your question, yes the 1mile 180Mbps link is using R52N card, and Nstreme. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: With the 180meg 1 mile link - I assume that is also r5(2)n? Are you doing N or nstreme? I'm surprised to see anything 30 megs when it comes to Mikrotik. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: Yes, 40MHz. We have a pair of RB333's that go about 1 mile, and get around 180Mbps. Too bad they only have 100Mbps Ethernet. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: 120 megs through one pair of r52n?! I'm assuming this is 40mhz? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: I think we get something in the range of 120Mbps through a pair of MikroTik 411's and R52N wireless cards with 3' PacWireless dishes at 12 miles. 120Mbps on the wireless. Those boards only have 100Mbps Ethernet, so that's a limiting factor. Total cost: $1000 If you're concerned that MT isn't reliable enough, spend $2000 and put up 2 completely diverse links. Though, we have some MT's that have been in service since 2004 and are still cranking away without issue. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 5:57 PM, my_em...@webjogger.net my_em...@webjogger.net wrote: Looking to setup a 100Mbps or more link over 10 miles distance. Anyone have comments about what brand they think is good and reliable? It can be either licensed or unlicensed. So far I'm looking at Exalt, Trango, and Dragonwave, but do know which to choose. Thanks, -- Jon Roux Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net 845.757.4000 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps over 10 miles
What I meant to describe was that I have not seen a Mikrotik wireless link exceed 30 megs in 20 mhz or 60 megs in 40 mhz. I'll have to do some experimenting. I have a pair of 532s that get 30 megs and have something like -55 (not even half mile link). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote: 30 as he typed would include 256 kbit. You both probably mean 30... which it also can do, just fine. Even reliably. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 11:24 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps over 10 miles Why 30 surprise you? We have a very old Nstreme-Dual link going about 1 mile and it has been getting 90Mbps w/ 1ms latency for YEARS. 90% of the problem with MikroTik is that people have no idea how to use it. You don't just plug it in and go. We spent about 3 years learning, tweaking, deploying and testing. Anyway, to answer your question, yes the 1mile 180Mbps link is using R52N card, and Nstreme. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: With the 180meg 1 mile link - I assume that is also r5(2)n? Are you doing N or nstreme? I'm surprised to see anything 30 megs when it comes to Mikrotik. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: Yes, 40MHz. We have a pair of RB333's that go about 1 mile, and get around 180Mbps. Too bad they only have 100Mbps Ethernet. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: 120 megs through one pair of r52n?! I'm assuming this is 40mhz? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: I think we get something in the range of 120Mbps through a pair of MikroTik 411's and R52N wireless cards with 3' PacWireless dishes at 12 miles. 120Mbps on the wireless. Those boards only have 100Mbps Ethernet, so that's a limiting factor. Total cost: $1000 If you're concerned that MT isn't reliable enough, spend $2000 and put up 2 completely diverse links. Though, we have some MT's that have been in service since 2004 and are still cranking away without issue. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 5:57 PM, my_em...@webjogger.net my_em...@webjogger.net wrote: Looking to setup a 100Mbps or more link over 10 miles distance. Anyone have comments about what brand they think is good and reliable? It can be either licensed or unlicensed. So far I'm looking at Exalt, Trango, and Dragonwave, but do know which to choose. Thanks, -- Jon Roux Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net 845.757.4000 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http
Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps over 10 miles
532's don't compare to 333, 433, even 411 on processor speed and ability. On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 7:38 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: What I meant to describe was that I have not seen a Mikrotik wireless link exceed 30 megs in 20 mhz or 60 megs in 40 mhz. I'll have to do some experimenting. I have a pair of 532s that get 30 megs and have something like -55 (not even half mile link). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: 30 as he typed would include 256 kbit. You both probably mean 30... which it also can do, just fine. Even reliably. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 11:24 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps over 10 miles Why 30 surprise you? We have a very old Nstreme-Dual link going about 1 mile and it has been getting 90Mbps w/ 1ms latency for YEARS. 90% of the problem with MikroTik is that people have no idea how to use it. You don't just plug it in and go. We spent about 3 years learning, tweaking, deploying and testing. Anyway, to answer your question, yes the 1mile 180Mbps link is using R52N card, and Nstreme. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: With the 180meg 1 mile link - I assume that is also r5(2)n? Are you doing N or nstreme? I'm surprised to see anything 30 megs when it comes to Mikrotik. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: Yes, 40MHz. We have a pair of RB333's that go about 1 mile, and get around 180Mbps. Too bad they only have 100Mbps Ethernet. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: 120 megs through one pair of r52n?! I'm assuming this is 40mhz? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: I think we get something in the range of 120Mbps through a pair of MikroTik 411's and R52N wireless cards with 3' PacWireless dishes at 12 miles. 120Mbps on the wireless. Those boards only have 100Mbps Ethernet, so that's a limiting factor. Total cost: $1000 If you're concerned that MT isn't reliable enough, spend $2000 and put up 2 completely diverse links. Though, we have some MT's that have been in service since 2004 and are still cranking away without issue. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 5:57 PM, my_em...@webjogger.net my_em...@webjogger.net wrote: Looking to setup a 100Mbps or more link over 10 miles distance. Anyone have comments about what brand they think is good and reliable? It can be either licensed or unlicensed. So far I'm looking at Exalt, Trango, and Dragonwave, but do know which to choose. Thanks, -- Jon Roux Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net 845.757.4000 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps over 10 miles
Believe me I know :/ On 11/16/09, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: 532's don't compare to 333, 433, even 411 on processor speed and ability. On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 7:38 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: What I meant to describe was that I have not seen a Mikrotik wireless link exceed 30 megs in 20 mhz or 60 megs in 40 mhz. I'll have to do some experimenting. I have a pair of 532s that get 30 megs and have something like -55 (not even half mile link). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: 30 as he typed would include 256 kbit. You both probably mean 30... which it also can do, just fine. Even reliably. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 11:24 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps over 10 miles Why 30 surprise you? We have a very old Nstreme-Dual link going about 1 mile and it has been getting 90Mbps w/ 1ms latency for YEARS. 90% of the problem with MikroTik is that people have no idea how to use it. You don't just plug it in and go. We spent about 3 years learning, tweaking, deploying and testing. Anyway, to answer your question, yes the 1mile 180Mbps link is using R52N card, and Nstreme. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: With the 180meg 1 mile link - I assume that is also r5(2)n? Are you doing N or nstreme? I'm surprised to see anything 30 megs when it comes to Mikrotik. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: Yes, 40MHz. We have a pair of RB333's that go about 1 mile, and get around 180Mbps. Too bad they only have 100Mbps Ethernet. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: 120 megs through one pair of r52n?! I'm assuming this is 40mhz? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: I think we get something in the range of 120Mbps through a pair of MikroTik 411's and R52N wireless cards with 3' PacWireless dishes at 12 miles. 120Mbps on the wireless. Those boards only have 100Mbps Ethernet, so that's a limiting factor. Total cost: $1000 If you're concerned that MT isn't reliable enough, spend $2000 and put up 2 completely diverse links. Though, we have some MT's that have been in service since 2004 and are still cranking away without issue. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 5:57 PM, my_em...@webjogger.net my_em...@webjogger.net wrote: Looking to setup a 100Mbps or more link over 10 miles distance. Anyone have comments about what brand they think is good and reliable? It can be either licensed or unlicensed. So far I'm looking at Exalt, Trango, and Dragonwave, but do know which to choose. Thanks, -- Jon Roux Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net 845.757.4000 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps over 10 miles
Can you tell me which 3 fields those are? Is there anyplace that you know of (wiki, manual) which describes the process? Thanks! Greg On Nov 14, 2009, at 1:57 AM, Jayson Baker wrote: Don't know what else to tell you. I always find myself spending a lot of time defending the equipment we use, and how well it works for us. Especially on the Moto list (which can be expected, since we don't use Moto - haha). Anyway... it works for us, and we're happy. I'm sorry you don't believe what I'm telling you, but I've also seen many people on the MT forum posting very similar (and even better) results. I can tell you there are 3 very, very, very critical fields which must be tweaked. Before those settings, you do get about 1/2 of what we see. Hell, we've even pushed 30Mbps half-duplex through a pair of 133's about 4 miles apart. It can be done, and we're doing it. That's all I have to say about that. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:18 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Which means we'd see 60 megs on 40 mhz links - you're able to get 50% more... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 1:03 AM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: I said 40MHz. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:49 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: You must have some secret that neither Butch nor I have - I've not seen any more then 30 megs on a single 20mhz wireless link. On 11/14/09, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: Why 30 surprise you? We have a very old Nstreme-Dual link going about 1 mile and it has been getting 90Mbps w/ 1ms latency for YEARS. 90% of the problem with MikroTik is that people have no idea how to use it. You don't just plug it in and go. We spent about 3 years learning, tweaking, deploying and testing. Anyway, to answer your question, yes the 1mile 180Mbps link is using R52N card, and Nstreme. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: With the 180meg 1 mile link - I assume that is also r5(2)n? Are you doing N or nstreme? I'm surprised to see anything 30 megs when it comes to Mikrotik. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: Yes, 40MHz. We have a pair of RB333's that go about 1 mile, and get around 180Mbps. Too bad they only have 100Mbps Ethernet. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: 120 megs through one pair of r52n?! I'm assuming this is 40mhz? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: I think we get something in the range of 120Mbps through a pair of MikroTik 411's and R52N wireless cards with 3' PacWireless dishes at 12 miles. 120Mbps on the wireless. Those boards only have 100Mbps Ethernet, so that's a limiting factor. Total cost: $1000 If you're concerned that MT isn't reliable enough, spend $2000 and put up 2 completely diverse links. Though, we have some MT's that have been in service since 2004 and are still cranking away without issue. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 5:57 PM, my_em...@webjogger.net my_em...@webjogger.net wrote: Looking to setup a 100Mbps or more link over 10 miles distance. Anyone have comments about what brand they think is good and reliable? It can be either licensed or unlicensed. So far I'm looking at Exalt, Trango, and Dragonwave, but do know which to choose. Thanks, -- Jon Roux Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net 845.757.4000 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps over 10 miles
Share your tweaks... Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jayson Baker Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 1:27 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps over 10 miles Don't know what else to tell you. I always find myself spending a lot of time defending the equipment we use, and how well it works for us. Especially on the Moto list (which can be expected, since we don't use Moto - haha). Anyway... it works for us, and we're happy. I'm sorry you don't believe what I'm telling you, but I've also seen many people on the MT forum posting very similar (and even better) results. I can tell you there are 3 very, very, very critical fields which must be tweaked. Before those settings, you do get about 1/2 of what we see. Hell, we've even pushed 30Mbps half-duplex through a pair of 133's about 4 miles apart. It can be done, and we're doing it. That's all I have to say about that. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:18 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Which means we'd see 60 megs on 40 mhz links - you're able to get 50% more... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 1:03 AM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: I said 40MHz. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:49 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: You must have some secret that neither Butch nor I have - I've not seen any more then 30 megs on a single 20mhz wireless link. On 11/14/09, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: Why 30 surprise you? We have a very old Nstreme-Dual link going about 1 mile and it has been getting 90Mbps w/ 1ms latency for YEARS. 90% of the problem with MikroTik is that people have no idea how to use it. You don't just plug it in and go. We spent about 3 years learning, tweaking, deploying and testing. Anyway, to answer your question, yes the 1mile 180Mbps link is using R52N card, and Nstreme. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: With the 180meg 1 mile link - I assume that is also r5(2)n? Are you doing N or nstreme? I'm surprised to see anything 30 megs when it comes to Mikrotik. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: Yes, 40MHz. We have a pair of RB333's that go about 1 mile, and get around 180Mbps. Too bad they only have 100Mbps Ethernet. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: 120 megs through one pair of r52n?! I'm assuming this is 40mhz? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: I think we get something in the range of 120Mbps through a pair of MikroTik 411's and R52N wireless cards with 3' PacWireless dishes at 12 miles. 120Mbps on the wireless. Those boards only have 100Mbps Ethernet, so that's a limiting factor. Total cost: $1000 If you're concerned that MT isn't reliable enough, spend $2000 and put up 2 completely diverse links. Though, we have some MT's that have been in service since 2004 and are still cranking away without issue. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 5:57 PM, my_em...@webjogger.net my_em...@webjogger.net wrote: Looking to setup a 100Mbps or more link over 10 miles distance. Anyone have comments about what brand they think is good and reliable? It can be either licensed or unlicensed. So far I'm looking at Exalt, Trango, and Dragonwave, but do know which to choose. Thanks, -- Jon Roux Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net 845.757.4000 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps over 10 miles
I'm actually considering some power routers 732, from Link Tech with some Ubiquiti SR71-15 (mimo cards). The Power routers have Gig ethernet ports on them. Any one used this combination? Still way cheaper than a lot of the licensed stuff. Thanks, Jon Jayson Baker wrote: I think we get something in the range of 120Mbps through a pair of MikroTik 411's and R52N wireless cards with 3' PacWireless dishes at 12 miles. 120Mbps on the wireless. Those boards only have 100Mbps Ethernet, so that's a limiting factor. Total cost: $1000 If you're concerned that MT isn't reliable enough, spend $2000 and put up 2 completely diverse links. Though, we have some MT's that have been in service since 2004 and are still cranking away without issue. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 5:57 PM, my_em...@webjogger.net my_em...@webjogger.net wrote: Looking to setup a 100Mbps or more link over 10 miles distance. Anyone have comments about what brand they think is good and reliable? It can be either licensed or unlicensed. So far I'm looking at Exalt, Trango, and Dragonwave, but do know which to choose. Thanks, -- Jon Roux Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net 845.757.4000 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jon Roux Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net 845.757.4000 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps over 10 miles
I'm with you on this. We have 30 mile links running 40MHz channels half-duplex with Nstreme on 411AH/XR-5s that run a rock solid 65Mbits TCP and 75Mbits UDP. That's without Nstreme dual, just regular old Nstreme half duplex. Getting closer brings the speeds up quite a bit. We saw some stunning results on RouterOS 4.0-beta3 on close-in links using Nstreme. It was possible to get 200Mbits-plus on a pair of RB600s talking to each other. Unfortunately we've seen performance degrade steadily with builds newer than beta3, to the point where we're moving all our N stuff back onto 3.30/.11a radios, at least until Nstreme is sorted out and reliable with N, which may be a while coming... George -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jayson Baker Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 12:25 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps over 10 miles Why 30 surprise you? We have a very old Nstreme-Dual link going about 1 mile and it has been getting 90Mbps w/ 1ms latency for YEARS. 90% of the problem with MikroTik is that people have no idea how to use it. You don't just plug it in and go. We spent about 3 years learning, tweaking, deploying and testing. Anyway, to answer your question, yes the 1mile 180Mbps link is using R52N card, and Nstreme. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: With the 180meg 1 mile link - I assume that is also r5(2)n? Are you doing N or nstreme? I'm surprised to see anything 30 megs when it comes to Mikrotik. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: Yes, 40MHz. We have a pair of RB333's that go about 1 mile, and get around 180Mbps. Too bad they only have 100Mbps Ethernet. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: 120 megs through one pair of r52n?! I'm assuming this is 40mhz? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: I think we get something in the range of 120Mbps through a pair of MikroTik 411's and R52N wireless cards with 3' PacWireless dishes at 12 miles. 120Mbps on the wireless. Those boards only have 100Mbps Ethernet, so that's a limiting factor. Total cost: $1000 If you're concerned that MT isn't reliable enough, spend $2000 and put up 2 completely diverse links. Though, we have some MT's that have been in service since 2004 and are still cranking away without issue. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 5:57 PM, my_em...@webjogger.net my_em...@webjogger.net wrote: Looking to setup a 100Mbps or more link over 10 miles distance. Anyone have comments about what brand they think is good and reliable? It can be either licensed or unlicensed. So far I'm looking at Exalt, Trango, and Dragonwave, but do know which to choose. Thanks, -- Jon Roux Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net 845.757.4000 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You
Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps over 10 miles
I believe you but I want to know how to do it :) On 11/14/09, George Morris ghmor...@candlelight.ca wrote: I'm with you on this. We have 30 mile links running 40MHz channels half-duplex with Nstreme on 411AH/XR-5s that run a rock solid 65Mbits TCP and 75Mbits UDP. That's without Nstreme dual, just regular old Nstreme half duplex. Getting closer brings the speeds up quite a bit. We saw some stunning results on RouterOS 4.0-beta3 on close-in links using Nstreme. It was possible to get 200Mbits-plus on a pair of RB600s talking to each other. Unfortunately we've seen performance degrade steadily with builds newer than beta3, to the point where we're moving all our N stuff back onto 3.30/.11a radios, at least until Nstreme is sorted out and reliable with N, which may be a while coming... George -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jayson Baker Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 12:25 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps over 10 miles Why 30 surprise you? We have a very old Nstreme-Dual link going about 1 mile and it has been getting 90Mbps w/ 1ms latency for YEARS. 90% of the problem with MikroTik is that people have no idea how to use it. You don't just plug it in and go. We spent about 3 years learning, tweaking, deploying and testing. Anyway, to answer your question, yes the 1mile 180Mbps link is using R52N card, and Nstreme. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: With the 180meg 1 mile link - I assume that is also r5(2)n? Are you doing N or nstreme? I'm surprised to see anything 30 megs when it comes to Mikrotik. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: Yes, 40MHz. We have a pair of RB333's that go about 1 mile, and get around 180Mbps. Too bad they only have 100Mbps Ethernet. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: 120 megs through one pair of r52n?! I'm assuming this is 40mhz? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: I think we get something in the range of 120Mbps through a pair of MikroTik 411's and R52N wireless cards with 3' PacWireless dishes at 12 miles. 120Mbps on the wireless. Those boards only have 100Mbps Ethernet, so that's a limiting factor. Total cost: $1000 If you're concerned that MT isn't reliable enough, spend $2000 and put up 2 completely diverse links. Though, we have some MT's that have been in service since 2004 and are still cranking away without issue. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 5:57 PM, my_em...@webjogger.net my_em...@webjogger.net wrote: Looking to setup a 100Mbps or more link over 10 miles distance. Anyone have comments about what brand they think is good and reliable? It can be either licensed or unlicensed. So far I'm looking at Exalt, Trango, and Dragonwave, but do know which to choose. Thanks, -- Jon Roux Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net 845.757.4000 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http
Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps over 10 miles
I agree. I have installed almost 20 links of the Trango Giga and Apex units and they work great. Travis Microserv Brad Belton wrote: We really need more information in order to make any specific recommendations. Interface type required and quantity. Rain zone the link is going to be deployed in. All indoor design, split IDU/ODU or all outdoor design preference. Required/desired availability. Antenna size limitations. My recommendation would be Trango Giga or Apex. We've been deploying them since their introduction with great results. We have one of the first Giga 18GHz radio sets among others running without any problems. We have serial #0001, 0002, 0005 0007 Giga 11GHz radios among several others that have all performed as expected. Trango support has been responsive and helpful in the relatively few times we've needed their assistance. Trango is continuing to mature and develop their licensed line with the introduction of the GigaPro among other products. They are on the same track to turn the licensed world upside down (with aggressive pricing and a strong feature set) just as they did the unlicensed 5GHz market with the introduction of the Sunstream 5800 series radio several years ago. In my opinion they are worth a close look and strong consideration. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of my_em...@webjogger.net Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 6:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 100Mbps over 10 miles Looking to setup a 100Mbps or more link over 10 miles distance. Anyone have comments about what brand they think is good and reliable? It can be either licensed or unlicensed. So far I'm looking at Exalt, Trango, and Dragonwave, but do know which to choose. Thanks, WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] 100Mbps over 10 miles
Looking to setup a 100Mbps or more link over 10 miles distance. Anyone have comments about what brand they think is good and reliable? It can be either licensed or unlicensed. So far I'm looking at Exalt, Trango, and Dragonwave, but do know which to choose. Thanks, -- Jon Roux Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net 845.757.4000 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps over 10 miles
Unlicensed : PTP 600 motorola Licensed: Trango or DW Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Nov 13, 2009, at 9:00 PM, my_em...@webjogger.net my_em...@webjogger.net wrote: Looking to setup a 100Mbps or more link over 10 miles distance. Anyone have comments about what brand they think is good and reliable? It can be either licensed or unlicensed. So far I'm looking at Exalt, Trango, and Dragonwave, but do know which to choose. Thanks, -- Jon Roux Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net 845.757.4000 --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps over 10 miles
that is a broad question with many possible answers. what is your budget Sent from my iPhone On Nov 13, 2009, at 4:58 PM, my_em...@webjogger.net my_em...@webjogger.net wrote: Looking to setup a 100Mbps or more link over 10 miles distance. Anyone have comments about what brand they think is good and reliable? It can be either licensed or unlicensed. So far I'm looking at Exalt, Trango, and Dragonwave, but do know which to choose. Thanks, -- Jon Roux Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net 845.757.4000 --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps over 10 miles
It sure is. If ya got the bucks, Exalt or Dragonwave would be my first choices. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 8:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps over 10 miles that is a broad question with many possible answers. what is your budget Sent from my iPhone On Nov 13, 2009, at 4:58 PM, my_em...@webjogger.net my_em...@webjogger.net wrote: Looking to setup a 100Mbps or more link over 10 miles distance. Anyone have comments about what brand they think is good and reliable? It can be either licensed or unlicensed. So far I'm looking at Exalt, Trango, and Dragonwave, but do know which to choose. Thanks, -- Jon Roux Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net 845.757.4000 --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps over 10 miles
You can use Trango but don't go with their Giga product line as it has too many software issues. Apex has been solid for us. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 8:06 PM, George Morris ghmor...@candlelight.ca wrote: It sure is. If ya got the bucks, Exalt or Dragonwave would be my first choices. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 8:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps over 10 miles that is a broad question with many possible answers. what is your budget Sent from my iPhone On Nov 13, 2009, at 4:58 PM, my_em...@webjogger.net my_em...@webjogger.net wrote: Looking to setup a 100Mbps or more link over 10 miles distance. Anyone have comments about what brand they think is good and reliable? It can be either licensed or unlicensed. So far I'm looking at Exalt, Trango, and Dragonwave, but do know which to choose. Thanks, -- Jon Roux Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net 845.757.4000 --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps over 10 miles
The Budget is as cheap as possible... but I think we would spend in the 16k ballpark for good reliable equipment. Jon Jerry Richardson wrote: that is a broad question with many possible answers. what is your budget Sent from my iPhone On Nov 13, 2009, at 4:58 PM, my_em...@webjogger.net my_em...@webjogger.net wrote: Looking to setup a 100Mbps or more link over 10 miles distance. Anyone have comments about what brand they think is good and reliable? It can be either licensed or unlicensed. So far I'm looking at Exalt, Trango, and Dragonwave, but do know which to choose. Thanks, -- Jon Roux Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net 845.757.4000 --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jon Roux Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net 845.757.4000 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps over 10 miles
We really need more information in order to make any specific recommendations. Interface type required and quantity. Rain zone the link is going to be deployed in. All indoor design, split IDU/ODU or all outdoor design preference. Required/desired availability. Antenna size limitations. My recommendation would be Trango Giga or Apex. We've been deploying them since their introduction with great results. We have one of the first Giga 18GHz radio sets among others running without any problems. We have serial #0001, 0002, 0005 0007 Giga 11GHz radios among several others that have all performed as expected. Trango support has been responsive and helpful in the relatively few times we've needed their assistance. Trango is continuing to mature and develop their licensed line with the introduction of the GigaPro among other products. They are on the same track to turn the licensed world upside down (with aggressive pricing and a strong feature set) just as they did the unlicensed 5GHz market with the introduction of the Sunstream 5800 series radio several years ago. In my opinion they are worth a close look and strong consideration. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of my_em...@webjogger.net Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 6:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 100Mbps over 10 miles Looking to setup a 100Mbps or more link over 10 miles distance. Anyone have comments about what brand they think is good and reliable? It can be either licensed or unlicensed. So far I'm looking at Exalt, Trango, and Dragonwave, but do know which to choose. Thanks, -- Jon Roux Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net 845.757.4000 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps over 10 miles
I think we get something in the range of 120Mbps through a pair of MikroTik 411's and R52N wireless cards with 3' PacWireless dishes at 12 miles. 120Mbps on the wireless. Those boards only have 100Mbps Ethernet, so that's a limiting factor. Total cost: $1000 If you're concerned that MT isn't reliable enough, spend $2000 and put up 2 completely diverse links. Though, we have some MT's that have been in service since 2004 and are still cranking away without issue. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 5:57 PM, my_em...@webjogger.net my_em...@webjogger.net wrote: Looking to setup a 100Mbps or more link over 10 miles distance. Anyone have comments about what brand they think is good and reliable? It can be either licensed or unlicensed. So far I'm looking at Exalt, Trango, and Dragonwave, but do know which to choose. Thanks, -- Jon Roux Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net 845.757.4000 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps over 10 miles
120 megs through one pair of r52n?! I'm assuming this is 40mhz? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.comwrote: I think we get something in the range of 120Mbps through a pair of MikroTik 411's and R52N wireless cards with 3' PacWireless dishes at 12 miles. 120Mbps on the wireless. Those boards only have 100Mbps Ethernet, so that's a limiting factor. Total cost: $1000 If you're concerned that MT isn't reliable enough, spend $2000 and put up 2 completely diverse links. Though, we have some MT's that have been in service since 2004 and are still cranking away without issue. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 5:57 PM, my_em...@webjogger.net my_em...@webjogger.net wrote: Looking to setup a 100Mbps or more link over 10 miles distance. Anyone have comments about what brand they think is good and reliable? It can be either licensed or unlicensed. So far I'm looking at Exalt, Trango, and Dragonwave, but do know which to choose. Thanks, -- Jon Roux Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net 845.757.4000 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps over 10 miles
Yes, 40MHz. We have a pair of RB333's that go about 1 mile, and get around 180Mbps. Too bad they only have 100Mbps Ethernet. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: 120 megs through one pair of r52n?! I'm assuming this is 40mhz? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: I think we get something in the range of 120Mbps through a pair of MikroTik 411's and R52N wireless cards with 3' PacWireless dishes at 12 miles. 120Mbps on the wireless. Those boards only have 100Mbps Ethernet, so that's a limiting factor. Total cost: $1000 If you're concerned that MT isn't reliable enough, spend $2000 and put up 2 completely diverse links. Though, we have some MT's that have been in service since 2004 and are still cranking away without issue. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 5:57 PM, my_em...@webjogger.net my_em...@webjogger.net wrote: Looking to setup a 100Mbps or more link over 10 miles distance. Anyone have comments about what brand they think is good and reliable? It can be either licensed or unlicensed. So far I'm looking at Exalt, Trango, and Dragonwave, but do know which to choose. Thanks, -- Jon Roux Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net 845.757.4000 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps over 10 miles
I have a link shooting through a tree that does 85 megs tcp hdx and 55megs tcp fdx.. Another link thats ~26 miles doing 60mbit tcp hdx.. Both with 20mhz channels and dual pol arc panels on one side with pac 3ft dual pol dishes on the other. Gerard Josh Luthman wrote: 120 megs through one pair of r52n?! I'm assuming this is 40mhz? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps over 10 miles
With the 180meg 1 mile link - I assume that is also r5(2)n? Are you doing N or nstreme? I'm surprised to see anything 30 megs when it comes to Mikrotik. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.comwrote: Yes, 40MHz. We have a pair of RB333's that go about 1 mile, and get around 180Mbps. Too bad they only have 100Mbps Ethernet. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: 120 megs through one pair of r52n?! I'm assuming this is 40mhz? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: I think we get something in the range of 120Mbps through a pair of MikroTik 411's and R52N wireless cards with 3' PacWireless dishes at 12 miles. 120Mbps on the wireless. Those boards only have 100Mbps Ethernet, so that's a limiting factor. Total cost: $1000 If you're concerned that MT isn't reliable enough, spend $2000 and put up 2 completely diverse links. Though, we have some MT's that have been in service since 2004 and are still cranking away without issue. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 5:57 PM, my_em...@webjogger.net my_em...@webjogger.net wrote: Looking to setup a 100Mbps or more link over 10 miles distance. Anyone have comments about what brand they think is good and reliable? It can be either licensed or unlicensed. So far I'm looking at Exalt, Trango, and Dragonwave, but do know which to choose. Thanks, -- Jon Roux Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net 845.757.4000 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps over 10 miles
You must have some secret that neither Butch nor I have - I've not seen any more then 30 megs on a single 20mhz wireless link. On 11/14/09, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: Why 30 surprise you? We have a very old Nstreme-Dual link going about 1 mile and it has been getting 90Mbps w/ 1ms latency for YEARS. 90% of the problem with MikroTik is that people have no idea how to use it. You don't just plug it in and go. We spent about 3 years learning, tweaking, deploying and testing. Anyway, to answer your question, yes the 1mile 180Mbps link is using R52N card, and Nstreme. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: With the 180meg 1 mile link - I assume that is also r5(2)n? Are you doing N or nstreme? I'm surprised to see anything 30 megs when it comes to Mikrotik. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: Yes, 40MHz. We have a pair of RB333's that go about 1 mile, and get around 180Mbps. Too bad they only have 100Mbps Ethernet. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: 120 megs through one pair of r52n?! I'm assuming this is 40mhz? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: I think we get something in the range of 120Mbps through a pair of MikroTik 411's and R52N wireless cards with 3' PacWireless dishes at 12 miles. 120Mbps on the wireless. Those boards only have 100Mbps Ethernet, so that's a limiting factor. Total cost: $1000 If you're concerned that MT isn't reliable enough, spend $2000 and put up 2 completely diverse links. Though, we have some MT's that have been in service since 2004 and are still cranking away without issue. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 5:57 PM, my_em...@webjogger.net my_em...@webjogger.net wrote: Looking to setup a 100Mbps or more link over 10 miles distance. Anyone have comments about what brand they think is good and reliable? It can be either licensed or unlicensed. So far I'm looking at Exalt, Trango, and Dragonwave, but do know which to choose. Thanks, -- Jon Roux Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net 845.757.4000 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps over 10 miles
I said 40MHz. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:49 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: You must have some secret that neither Butch nor I have - I've not seen any more then 30 megs on a single 20mhz wireless link. On 11/14/09, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: Why 30 surprise you? We have a very old Nstreme-Dual link going about 1 mile and it has been getting 90Mbps w/ 1ms latency for YEARS. 90% of the problem with MikroTik is that people have no idea how to use it. You don't just plug it in and go. We spent about 3 years learning, tweaking, deploying and testing. Anyway, to answer your question, yes the 1mile 180Mbps link is using R52N card, and Nstreme. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: With the 180meg 1 mile link - I assume that is also r5(2)n? Are you doing N or nstreme? I'm surprised to see anything 30 megs when it comes to Mikrotik. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: Yes, 40MHz. We have a pair of RB333's that go about 1 mile, and get around 180Mbps. Too bad they only have 100Mbps Ethernet. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: 120 megs through one pair of r52n?! I'm assuming this is 40mhz? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: I think we get something in the range of 120Mbps through a pair of MikroTik 411's and R52N wireless cards with 3' PacWireless dishes at 12 miles. 120Mbps on the wireless. Those boards only have 100Mbps Ethernet, so that's a limiting factor. Total cost: $1000 If you're concerned that MT isn't reliable enough, spend $2000 and put up 2 completely diverse links. Though, we have some MT's that have been in service since 2004 and are still cranking away without issue. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 5:57 PM, my_em...@webjogger.net my_em...@webjogger.net wrote: Looking to setup a 100Mbps or more link over 10 miles distance. Anyone have comments about what brand they think is good and reliable? It can be either licensed or unlicensed. So far I'm looking at Exalt, Trango, and Dragonwave, but do know which to choose. Thanks, -- Jon Roux Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net 845.757.4000 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!
Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps over 10 miles
Which means we'd see 60 megs on 40 mhz links - you're able to get 50% more... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 1:03 AM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.comwrote: I said 40MHz. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:49 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: You must have some secret that neither Butch nor I have - I've not seen any more then 30 megs on a single 20mhz wireless link. On 11/14/09, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: Why 30 surprise you? We have a very old Nstreme-Dual link going about 1 mile and it has been getting 90Mbps w/ 1ms latency for YEARS. 90% of the problem with MikroTik is that people have no idea how to use it. You don't just plug it in and go. We spent about 3 years learning, tweaking, deploying and testing. Anyway, to answer your question, yes the 1mile 180Mbps link is using R52N card, and Nstreme. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: With the 180meg 1 mile link - I assume that is also r5(2)n? Are you doing N or nstreme? I'm surprised to see anything 30 megs when it comes to Mikrotik. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: Yes, 40MHz. We have a pair of RB333's that go about 1 mile, and get around 180Mbps. Too bad they only have 100Mbps Ethernet. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: 120 megs through one pair of r52n?! I'm assuming this is 40mhz? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: I think we get something in the range of 120Mbps through a pair of MikroTik 411's and R52N wireless cards with 3' PacWireless dishes at 12 miles. 120Mbps on the wireless. Those boards only have 100Mbps Ethernet, so that's a limiting factor. Total cost: $1000 If you're concerned that MT isn't reliable enough, spend $2000 and put up 2 completely diverse links. Though, we have some MT's that have been in service since 2004 and are still cranking away without issue. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 5:57 PM, my_em...@webjogger.net my_em...@webjogger.net wrote: Looking to setup a 100Mbps or more link over 10 miles distance. Anyone have comments about what brand they think is good and reliable? It can be either licensed or unlicensed. So far I'm looking at Exalt, Trango, and Dragonwave, but do know which to choose. Thanks, -- Jon Roux Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net 845.757.4000 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps over 10 miles
Don't know what else to tell you. I always find myself spending a lot of time defending the equipment we use, and how well it works for us. Especially on the Moto list (which can be expected, since we don't use Moto - haha). Anyway... it works for us, and we're happy. I'm sorry you don't believe what I'm telling you, but I've also seen many people on the MT forum posting very similar (and even better) results. I can tell you there are 3 very, very, very critical fields which must be tweaked. Before those settings, you do get about 1/2 of what we see. Hell, we've even pushed 30Mbps half-duplex through a pair of 133's about 4 miles apart. It can be done, and we're doing it. That's all I have to say about that. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:18 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Which means we'd see 60 megs on 40 mhz links - you're able to get 50% more... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 1:03 AM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: I said 40MHz. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:49 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: You must have some secret that neither Butch nor I have - I've not seen any more then 30 megs on a single 20mhz wireless link. On 11/14/09, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: Why 30 surprise you? We have a very old Nstreme-Dual link going about 1 mile and it has been getting 90Mbps w/ 1ms latency for YEARS. 90% of the problem with MikroTik is that people have no idea how to use it. You don't just plug it in and go. We spent about 3 years learning, tweaking, deploying and testing. Anyway, to answer your question, yes the 1mile 180Mbps link is using R52N card, and Nstreme. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: With the 180meg 1 mile link - I assume that is also r5(2)n? Are you doing N or nstreme? I'm surprised to see anything 30 megs when it comes to Mikrotik. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: Yes, 40MHz. We have a pair of RB333's that go about 1 mile, and get around 180Mbps. Too bad they only have 100Mbps Ethernet. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: 120 megs through one pair of r52n?! I'm assuming this is 40mhz? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: I think we get something in the range of 120Mbps through a pair of MikroTik 411's and R52N wireless cards with 3' PacWireless dishes at 12 miles. 120Mbps on the wireless. Those boards only have 100Mbps Ethernet, so that's a limiting factor. Total cost: $1000 If you're concerned that MT isn't reliable enough, spend $2000 and put up 2 completely diverse links. Though, we have some MT's that have been in service since 2004 and are still cranking away without issue. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 5:57 PM, my_em...@webjogger.net my_em...@webjogger.net wrote: Looking to setup a 100Mbps or more link over 10 miles distance. Anyone have comments about what brand they think is good and reliable? It can be either licensed or unlicensed. So far I'm looking at Exalt, Trango, and Dragonwave, but do know which to choose. Thanks, -- Jon Roux Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net 845.757.4000 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
