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Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Internet Runs Out Of IP Addresses
Probably not directed towards ISPs, but to other organizations.
http://fixedorbit.com/stats.htm
http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space/ipv4-address
I am not sure I agree with the conclusion. I think we are going to see
some new applications that use some of the things that IPv6 offers, like
multi-cast and any-cast in ways we can not imagine, yet. When they do
and the consumer demand comes, the SOHO router market will catch. ISPs
Yes, it would appear we are going to have to build our networks to
support what the customer wants rather than limit what they can do
because our infrastructure won't support.
On 2/8/2011 10:10 AM, Matt wrote:
I am not sure I agree with the conclusion. I think we are going to see
some new
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Behalf Of Scott Reed
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 10:21 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Internet Runs Out Of IP Addresses
Yes, it would appear we are going to have to build our networks to
support what the customer wants rather than limit what they can do
because
07, 2011 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Internet Runs Out Of IP Addresses
At 2/7/2011 11:34 AM, Matt wrote:
No, it's not a real problem. I liken it to the exhaust of
homesteads in the
past century. You used to be able to go to a land office and ask for
your
40 acres. Then they ran out
07, 2011 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Internet Runs Out Of IP Addresses
Probably not directed towards ISPs, but to other organizations.
http://fixedorbit.com/stats.htm
http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space/ipv4-address-space.xml
GE probably doesn't need 16M+ IPs.
HP probably
:57 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Internet Runs Out Of IP Addresses
Probably not directed towards ISPs, but to other organizations.
http://fixedorbit.com/stats.htm
http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space/ipv4-address-space.xml
GE probably doesn't need 16M+ IPs.
HP probably doesn't
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 12:14, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
It is my understanding that many organizations held large allocations
before the RIRs were formed. I wouldn't expect those allocations to be
held to ARIN rules.
They're not. If you follow ARIN politics, there's
Runs Out Of IP Addresses
At 2/7/2011 11:34 AM, Matt wrote:
No, it's not a real problem. I liken it to the exhaust of
homesteads in the
past century. You used to be able to go to a land office and ask for
your
40 acres. Then they ran out. But you could still buy a farm from
somebody
who
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Internet Runs Out Of IP Addresses
There was a requirement to use with IP allocation. (would need more within 3
months, if not allocated, or something like that).
There is a legal basis to make IP holders return IPs that they are not
using, or will not use within X months.
Selling
@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Internet Runs Out Of IP Addresses
Probably not directed towards ISPs, but to other organizations.
http://fixedorbit.com/stats.htm
http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space/ipv4-address-space.xml
GE probably
support
IPv6? Pretty penny to replace.
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 12:05 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Internet Runs Out Of IP Addresses
- Fixed Wireless Broadband
- Original Message -
From: Scott Reed sr...@nwwnet.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Internet Runs Out Of IP Addresses
It isn't ARIN, it is all the RIRs. And ARIN just go another /8
yup
It is kinda like this
A storm is coming - and all the quikymarts go to the local Acme, Kroger and
Walmarts and purchase all the milk and bread.
Now you have to go to the local quikymart if you want more IP's (well its
almost that way but not just yet)
On Feb 9, 2011, at 1:14 AM, Tom
Nice post Glenn.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
- Original Message -
From: Glenn Kelley
To: fai...@snappydsl.net ; WISPA General List
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 1:04 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Internet Runs Out Of IP Addresses
On 7 February 2011 02:49, Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net wrote:
We are not out of IPv4 addresses. The unallocated pool is exhausted.
There is a difference. Think of it in terms as water from a well.
You have all of these people bringing water up from the well (the water is
ipv4 addresses).
At 2/7/2011 08:01 AM, Jeremy Parr wrote:
On 7 February 2011 02:49, Justin Wilson
mailto:li...@mtin.netli...@mtin.net wrote:
We are not out of IPv4 addresses. The unallocated pool is
exhausted. There is a difference. Think of it in terms as water from a well.
You have all of these people
It will just turn into 1999 all over again with businesses everywhere worried
they won't be able to use the Internet so they bring in high priced consultants
to show them how to transition to IPV6.
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On Feb 7, 2011, at 8:27 AM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com wrote:
, 2011 8:28 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Internet Runs Out Of IP Addresses
At 2/7/2011 08:01 AM, Jeremy Parr wrote:
On 7 February 2011 02:49, Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net wrote:
We are not out of IPv4 addresses. The unallocated pool is exhausted. There
is a difference. Think
On 02/07/2011 09:40 AM, Jeremie Chism wrote:
It will just turn into 1999 all over again with businesses everywhere
worried they won't be able to use the Internet so they bring in high
priced consultants to show them how to transition to IPV6.
Not all of us are that high priced! :-)
--
Definitely not directed at you butch. I just remember some of the guys from
those days.
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On Feb 7, 2011, at 10:05 AM, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote:
On 02/07/2011 09:40 AM, Jeremie Chism wrote:
It will just turn into 1999 all over again with businesses
No, it's not a real problem. I liken it to the exhaust of homesteads in the
past century. You used to be able to go to a land office and ask for your
40 acres. Then they ran out. But you could still buy a farm from somebody
who previously had a homestead.
Very few are going to give up
It has been addresses, it is called IPv6.
On 2/7/2011 8:01 AM, Jeremy Parr wrote:
On 7 February 2011 02:49, Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net
mailto:li...@mtin.net wrote:
We are not out of IPv4 addresses. The unallocated pool is
exhausted. There is a difference. Think of it in terms as
At 2/7/2011 11:07 AM, you wrote:
Definitely not directed at you butch. I just remember some of the
guys from those days.
No, I'm not concerned about Butch, especially since there will be
*some* customers who want IPv6, so it makes sense for many ISPs to
provide the option. I'm thinking about
Probably not directed towards ISPs, but to other organizations.
http://fixedorbit.com/stats.htm
http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space/ipv4-address-space.xml
GE probably doesn't need 16M+ IPs.
HP probably doesn't need 33M+ IPs.
Ford probably doesn't need 16M+ IPs..
-
Mike
Being able to talk IPv6 is the real problem. There will be content
providers out there who will have v6 only networks. Even if you use all
ipv4 space you or your upstream will need to be able to talk v6 in the
near future. V4 is not going away. A separate v6 network will be layered
on top of
Hey it was expensive to dig up some of those cobol programmer programmers.
And thaw the rest.
Marco
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote:
Definitely not directed at you butch. I just remember some of the guys from
those days.
Sent from my iPhone4
On Feb
At 2/7/2011 11:34 AM, Matt wrote:
No, it's not a real problem. I liken it to the exhaust of
homesteads in the
past century. You used to be able to go to a land office and ask for your
40 acres. Then they ran out. But you could still buy a farm from somebody
who previously had a
I am not sure I agree with the conclusion. I think we are going to see
some new applications that use some of the things that IPv6 offers, like
multi-cast and any-cast in ways we can not imagine, yet. When they do
and the consumer demand comes, the SOHO router market will catch. ISPs
better
On 4 February 2011 16:57, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote:
This is the kind of FUD that the world does not need.
On 2/4/2011 1:10 PM, Data Technology wrote:
http://www.informationweek.com/news/internet/policy/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=229201157cid=RSSfeed_IWK_All
How exactly is this
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This is the kind of FUD that the world does not need.
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