[WISPA] Network Valuation Considerations

2006-12-03 Thread John Scrivner
Tom DeReggi wrote: The big thing here is... Is one selling revenue or selling a network? Both. No way around it. If one is selling revenue, the buyer could probably care less what allows the revenue to happen. I have been looking at other WISPs around me for possible merge / acquisition

Re: [WISPA] Network Valuation Considerations

2006-12-03 Thread Tom DeReggi
: [WISPA] Network Valuation Considerations Tom DeReggi wrote: The big thing here is... Is one selling revenue or selling a network? Both. No way around it. If one is selling revenue, the buyer could probably care less what allows the revenue to happen. I have been looking at other WISPs

Re: [WISPA] Network Valuation Considerations

2006-12-03 Thread John Scrivner
Tom, I do not mind having my posts clipped for content when replying but I do mind it when you do it mid-sentence and change what I said. My sentence read, Nobody in unlicensed is going to get 6X unless they have a network doing 10s of millions of dollars a year in revenues or a smaller

Re: [WISPA] Network Valuation Considerations

2006-12-03 Thread Peter R.
Tom DeReggi wrote: Nobody in unlicensed is going to get 6X Thats where you are wrong. However, the value of a higher Multiple is relevent to the amount of customers one has and what stage of development the company is in. Nope. No one is currently paying 6X. Most I have seen is 2.5X.

Re: [WISPA] Network Valuation Considerations

2006-12-03 Thread Peter R.
John Scrivner wrote: From a resell standpoint, at that moment in time, your company could well be worth less than what you paid to build it. It is just like driving a car off the lot. It depreciates thousands of dollars the first few feet off the lot. CLEC's are a great example of not

Re: [WISPA] Network Valuation Considerations

2006-12-03 Thread Tom DeReggi
PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Valuation Considerations Tom DeReggi wrote: Nobody in unlicensed is going to get 6X Thats where you are wrong. However, the value of a higher Multiple is relevent

Re: [WISPA] Network Valuation Considerations

2006-12-03 Thread Travis Johnson
So you are saying you haven't seen more than 2.5X the monthly revenue? We sold a division of our company for 12X the monthly revenue + the FMV of the equipment in 2001. The current going rate that I have seen is more around 12X monthly + equipment infrastructure. Travis Microserv Peter R.

Re: [WISPA] Network Valuation Considerations

2006-12-03 Thread Travis Johnson
John, During the last ten years we have purchased and sold several ISP's... and I can tell you that you NEVER want to purchase the corporation. You want to do an asset only purchase. So you are buying the equipment (for whatever value you want to put on it) and the customer base. Then,

RE: [WISPA] Network Valuation Considerations

2006-12-03 Thread Brad Belton
] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 4:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Valuation Considerations So you are saying you haven't seen more than 2.5X the monthly revenue? We sold a division of our company for 12X the monthly revenue

Re: [WISPA] Network Valuation Considerations

2006-12-03 Thread Travis Johnson
and most importantly PROFITS just to name a few key sticking points. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 4:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network

Re: [WISPA] Network Valuation Considerations

2006-12-03 Thread Tom DeReggi
PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Valuation Considerations Tom, I do not mind having my posts clipped for content when replying but I do mind it when you do it mid-sentence and change what I said. My sentence