RE: [WISPA] TRUCKPC

2006-12-31 Thread Ralph
Because they may have their data in a more timely and reliable fashion than
they get it by using casual access.
When I first got into WiFi, I saw that 80% of detected (broadcasting) access
points were fully open. Within a year, it dropped to 60%.  Now, several
years later it is well below 50%, and out in the more technically savvy
areas (just spent 4 months in Sillycon Valley) it is like 10% or less.
Consumers are finally getting more in tune with security. Or more
accurately, manufacturers are pushing security more heavily now.  A customer
had just better not  ever push that button on the front of a Linksys if they
don't know what they are doing (grin).
 
Remember- I am talking about consumers here- not what we as WISPS set up or
provide to them.
 
Ralph

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 12:46 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] TRUCKPC


Hi,

Why would this company pay for WiFi access when they are now getting all the
access they need for free? It's actually a great idea... have the trucks
scan all the time and once they find an open AP, connect and upload all
their info.

Travis
Microserv

Ralph wrote: 

I was on the way to one of our remote towers today and was on the interstate

next to two US Express trucks.  I turned on a sniffer to see if they also

had access points on them, but there was nothing. I guess they just scan,

looking for free wireless to use.



Being bored with the drive, I was thinking about the TRUCKPC thing a lot and

had an idea to make some code changes to the mobile access point I have in

my vehicle. Its hooked up to a verizon card and I have a roving EVDO to WIFi

hot spot gateway.  ( see  http://ralphfowler.com/stompbox/index.htm ) I

could make a couple of code changes to allow the box to also sniff a bit and

see exactly what these things are doing when they find a free internet

connection.



I was also thinking that we, as an industry, could possibly cut a deal with

Drivertech to allow their customers to have access to our networks.  Of

course there would be a lot more to work out and I'm not the guy for that

job ;-)





Just some Saturday musings...











-Original Message-

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists

Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 1:16 AM

To: WISPA General List

Subject: Re: [WISPA] TRUCKPC



AHA



I've been wondering where the hell that TruckPC request has been coming

from!!



Occasionally, I have techs who have left the radius authentication disabled

on an access point and the dhcp logs will start to fill up with requests

from TruckPC.  They were coming from access points all over 

the place and I was a little perplexed.   It is interesting to watch our 

radius logs too.  I have one AP overlooking a little town of 200 people, but

it is right next to an interstate and the radius log from that AP is always

showing logins.  Must be all the trucker laptops whizzing by looking for an

open AP.



I've been toying with the idea of turning on hotspot functionality so that

we can provide transient access, and this is probably a good reason to do

it.



Matt Larsen

[EMAIL PROTECTED]





Ralph wrote:

  

Well, JohnnyO- you might want to also educate these people, then:

http://www.drivertech.com/



Their product, a Truckpc is being installed in many fleet vehicles. 

One fleet that comes to mind is US Express, a long haul package hauling



service

  

http://www.usxpress.com/   The device communicates back to the office via

Satellite, Cellular, or WiFi- whichever is available and cheaper.  

According to the manufacturer, it can hunt down open and unsecured 

access points and do your HIGHLY illegal act of connecting and 

sending its data whenever it can.



I'm not endorsing this behavior, of course, but I wanted to bring it 

to the attention of the list.



How do I know?   My WISP operates hotspot portals that allow casual users



to

  

make use of our mountain and tower-top sectors of WiFi.  These cover 

major portions of several towns.  These towns have a major Interstate 

route passing through them.  I began noticing numerous TRUCKPC leases 

being granted by the DHCP servers in these towns.  I became concerned 

about what they were, so I did a little internet research and ended up 

on the phone with technical support at Drivertech. This is who 

confirmed how these devices operate and who the probable fleet culprit



was.

  

If anyone has portals near major truck routes, check your DHCP logs 

and see if you see the TRUCKPC SSID grabbing leases. You may want to 

either block it or contact these folks and work out a roaming agreement.







Serious part over, joke follows:



This message brought to you by the World's largest free wireless 

internet provider. Look for our SSID wherever you go: Linksys.



Ralph



-Original Message

Re: [WISPA] TRUCKPC

2006-12-31 Thread Travis Johnson

Hi,

I would agree that the percentage of open AP's has dropped in the past 
few years. However, I still believe it's above 50%.


I just can't see a company that already has an operating, working system 
in place that is basically FREE for them changing to paying ISP's around 
the country for service. Doesn't make sense, other than what they are 
doing is illegal. :)


Travis


Ralph wrote:

Because they may have their data in a more timely and reliable fashion than
they get it by using casual access.
When I first got into WiFi, I saw that 80% of detected (broadcasting) access
points were fully open. Within a year, it dropped to 60%.  Now, several
years later it is well below 50%, and out in the more technically savvy
areas (just spent 4 months in Sillycon Valley) it is like 10% or less.
Consumers are finally getting more in tune with security. Or more
accurately, manufacturers are pushing security more heavily now.  A customer
had just better not  ever push that button on the front of a Linksys if they
don't know what they are doing (grin).
 
Remember- I am talking about consumers here- not what we as WISPS set up or

provide to them.
 
Ralph


  _  


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 12:46 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] TRUCKPC


Hi,

Why would this company pay for WiFi access when they are now getting all the
access they need for free? It's actually a great idea... have the trucks
scan all the time and once they find an open AP, connect and upload all
their info.

Travis
Microserv

Ralph wrote: 


I was on the way to one of our remote towers today and was on the interstate

next to two US Express trucks.  I turned on a sniffer to see if they also

had access points on them, but there was nothing. I guess they just scan,

looking for free wireless to use.



Being bored with the drive, I was thinking about the TRUCKPC thing a lot and

had an idea to make some code changes to the mobile access point I have in

my vehicle. Its hooked up to a verizon card and I have a roving EVDO to WIFi

hot spot gateway.  ( see  http://ralphfowler.com/stompbox/index.htm ) I

could make a couple of code changes to allow the box to also sniff a bit and

see exactly what these things are doing when they find a free internet

connection.



I was also thinking that we, as an industry, could possibly cut a deal with

Drivertech to allow their customers to have access to our networks.  Of

course there would be a lot more to work out and I'm not the guy for that

job ;-)





Just some Saturday musings...











-Original Message-

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists

Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 1:16 AM

To: WISPA General List

Subject: Re: [WISPA] TRUCKPC



AHA



I've been wondering where the hell that TruckPC request has been coming

from!!



Occasionally, I have techs who have left the radius authentication disabled

on an access point and the dhcp logs will start to fill up with requests

from TruckPC.  They were coming from access points all over 

the place and I was a little perplexed.   It is interesting to watch our 


radius logs too.  I have one AP overlooking a little town of 200 people, but

it is right next to an interstate and the radius log from that AP is always

showing logins.  Must be all the trucker laptops whizzing by looking for an

open AP.



I've been toying with the idea of turning on hotspot functionality so that

we can provide transient access, and this is probably a good reason to do

it.



Matt Larsen

[EMAIL PROTECTED]





Ralph wrote:

  


Well, JohnnyO- you might want to also educate these people, then:

http://www.drivertech.com/



Their product, a Truckpc is being installed in many fleet vehicles. 


One fleet that comes to mind is US Express, a long haul package hauling




service

  


http://www.usxpress.com/   The device communicates back to the office via

Satellite, Cellular, or WiFi- whichever is available and cheaper.  

According to the manufacturer, it can hunt down open and unsecured 

access points and do your HIGHLY illegal act of connecting and 


sending its data whenever it can.



I'm not endorsing this behavior, of course, but I wanted to bring it 


to the attention of the list.



How do I know?   My WISP operates hotspot portals that allow casual users




to

  

make use of our mountain and tower-top sectors of WiFi.  These cover 

major portions of several towns.  These towns have a major Interstate 

route passing through them.  I began noticing numerous TRUCKPC leases 

being granted by the DHCP servers in these towns.  I became concerned 

about what they were, so I did a little internet research and ended up 

on the phone with technical support at Drivertech. This is who 


confirmed how these devices operate and who the probable fleet culprit




was.

  

If anyone has

RE: [WISPA] TRUCKPC

2006-12-31 Thread Rick Smith
unless we ISPs all get together and lock up the wifi world for customers.

I've charged people $50 to go in and secure their stuff.  I could do it
for $20... ;)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 1:04 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] TRUCKPC

Hi,

I would agree that the percentage of open AP's has dropped in the past few
years. However, I still believe it's above 50%.

I just can't see a company that already has an operating, working system in
place that is basically FREE for them changing to paying ISP's around the
country for service. Doesn't make sense, other than what they are doing is
illegal. :)

Travis


Ralph wrote:
 Because they may have their data in a more timely and reliable fashion 
 than they get it by using casual access.
 When I first got into WiFi, I saw that 80% of detected (broadcasting) 
 access points were fully open. Within a year, it dropped to 60%.  Now, 
 several years later it is well below 50%, and out in the more 
 technically savvy areas (just spent 4 months in Sillycon Valley) it is
like 10% or less.
 Consumers are finally getting more in tune with security. Or more 
 accurately, manufacturers are pushing security more heavily now.  A 
 customer had just better not  ever push that button on the front of a 
 Linksys if they don't know what they are doing (grin).
  
 Remember- I am talking about consumers here- not what we as WISPS set 
 up or provide to them.
  
 Ralph

   _

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 On Behalf Of Travis Johnson
 Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 12:46 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] TRUCKPC


 Hi,

 Why would this company pay for WiFi access when they are now getting 
 all the access they need for free? It's actually a great idea... have 
 the trucks scan all the time and once they find an open AP, connect 
 and upload all their info.

 Travis
 Microserv

 Ralph wrote: 

 I was on the way to one of our remote towers today and was on the 
 interstate

 next to two US Express trucks.  I turned on a sniffer to see if they 
 also

 had access points on them, but there was nothing. I guess they just 
 scan,

 looking for free wireless to use.



 Being bored with the drive, I was thinking about the TRUCKPC thing a 
 lot and

 had an idea to make some code changes to the mobile access point I 
 have in

 my vehicle. Its hooked up to a verizon card and I have a roving EVDO 
 to WIFi

 hot spot gateway.  ( see  http://ralphfowler.com/stompbox/index.htm ) 
 I

 could make a couple of code changes to allow the box to also sniff a 
 bit and

 see exactly what these things are doing when they find a free internet

 connection.



 I was also thinking that we, as an industry, could possibly cut a deal 
 with

 Drivertech to allow their customers to have access to our networks.  
 Of

 course there would be a lot more to work out and I'm not the guy for 
 that

 job ;-)





 Just some Saturday musings...











 -Original Message-

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 On

 Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists

 Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 1:16 AM

 To: WISPA General List

 Subject: Re: [WISPA] TRUCKPC



 AHA



 I've been wondering where the hell that TruckPC request has been 
 coming

 from!!



 Occasionally, I have techs who have left the radius authentication 
 disabled

 on an access point and the dhcp logs will start to fill up with 
 requests

 from TruckPC.  They were coming from access points all over

 the place and I was a little perplexed.   It is interesting to watch our 

 radius logs too.  I have one AP overlooking a little town of 200 
 people, but

 it is right next to an interstate and the radius log from that AP is 
 always

 showing logins.  Must be all the trucker laptops whizzing by looking 
 for an

 open AP.



 I've been toying with the idea of turning on hotspot functionality so 
 that

 we can provide transient access, and this is probably a good reason to 
 do

 it.



 Matt Larsen

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]





 Ralph wrote:

   

 Well, JohnnyO- you might want to also educate these people, then:

 http://www.drivertech.com/



 Their product, a Truckpc is being installed in many fleet vehicles. 

 One fleet that comes to mind is US Express, a long haul package 
 hauling

 

 service

   

 http://www.usxpress.com/   The device communicates back to the office via

 Satellite, Cellular, or WiFi- whichever is available and cheaper.  

 According to the manufacturer, it can hunt down open and unsecured

 access points and do your HIGHLY illegal act of connecting and

 sending its data whenever it can.



 I'm not endorsing this behavior, of course, but I wanted to bring it

 to the attention of the list.



 How do I know?   My WISP operates hotspot portals that allow casual users

 

 to

   

 make use of our mountain and tower-top sectors of WiFi

RE: [WISPA] TRUCKPC

2006-12-31 Thread Ralph
I don't either. They were just thoughts I was having while driving on a long
trip and seeing their truck.
And you forgot to say HIGHLY illegal: g 

The Sillycon Valley has a pretty high percentage of Technically savvy users
so that probably accounts for the low percentage of unsecured points. Europe
is also leaps ahead of us in user awareness of this. 

Ralph


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 1:04 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] TRUCKPC

Hi,

I would agree that the percentage of open AP's has dropped in the past few
years. However, I still believe it's above 50%.

I just can't see a company that already has an operating, working system in
place that is basically FREE for them changing to paying ISP's around the
country for service. Doesn't make sense, other than what they are doing is
illegal. :)

Travis


Ralph wrote:
 Because they may have their data in a more timely and reliable fashion 
 than they get it by using casual access.
 When I first got into WiFi, I saw that 80% of detected (broadcasting) 
 access points were fully open. Within a year, it dropped to 60%.  Now, 
 several years later it is well below 50%, and out in the more 
 technically savvy areas (just spent 4 months in Sillycon Valley) it is
like 10% or less.
 Consumers are finally getting more in tune with security. Or more 
 accurately, manufacturers are pushing security more heavily now.  A 
 customer had just better not  ever push that button on the front of a 
 Linksys if they don't know what they are doing (grin).
  
 Remember- I am talking about consumers here- not what we as WISPS set 
 up or provide to them.
  
 Ralph

   _

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 On Behalf Of Travis Johnson
 Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 12:46 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] TRUCKPC


 Hi,

 Why would this company pay for WiFi access when they are now getting 
 all the access they need for free? It's actually a great idea... have 
 the trucks scan all the time and once they find an open AP, connect 
 and upload all their info.

 Travis
 Microserv

 Ralph wrote: 

 I was on the way to one of our remote towers today and was on the 
 interstate

 next to two US Express trucks.  I turned on a sniffer to see if they 
 also

 had access points on them, but there was nothing. I guess they just 
 scan,

 looking for free wireless to use.



 Being bored with the drive, I was thinking about the TRUCKPC thing a 
 lot and

 had an idea to make some code changes to the mobile access point I 
 have in

 my vehicle. Its hooked up to a verizon card and I have a roving EVDO 
 to WIFi

 hot spot gateway.  ( see  http://ralphfowler.com/stompbox/index.htm ) 
 I

 could make a couple of code changes to allow the box to also sniff a 
 bit and

 see exactly what these things are doing when they find a free internet

 connection.



 I was also thinking that we, as an industry, could possibly cut a deal 
 with

 Drivertech to allow their customers to have access to our networks.  
 Of

 course there would be a lot more to work out and I'm not the guy for 
 that

 job ;-)





 Just some Saturday musings...











 -Original Message-

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 On

 Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists

 Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 1:16 AM

 To: WISPA General List

 Subject: Re: [WISPA] TRUCKPC



 AHA



 I've been wondering where the hell that TruckPC request has been 
 coming

 from!!



 Occasionally, I have techs who have left the radius authentication 
 disabled

 on an access point and the dhcp logs will start to fill up with 
 requests

 from TruckPC.  They were coming from access points all over

 the place and I was a little perplexed.   It is interesting to watch our 

 radius logs too.  I have one AP overlooking a little town of 200 
 people, but

 it is right next to an interstate and the radius log from that AP is 
 always

 showing logins.  Must be all the trucker laptops whizzing by looking 
 for an

 open AP.



 I've been toying with the idea of turning on hotspot functionality so 
 that

 we can provide transient access, and this is probably a good reason to 
 do

 it.



 Matt Larsen

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]





 Ralph wrote:

   

 Well, JohnnyO- you might want to also educate these people, then:

 http://www.drivertech.com/



 Their product, a Truckpc is being installed in many fleet vehicles. 

 One fleet that comes to mind is US Express, a long haul package 
 hauling

 

 service

   

 http://www.usxpress.com/   The device communicates back to the office via

 Satellite, Cellular, or WiFi- whichever is available and cheaper.  

 According to the manufacturer, it can hunt down open and unsecured

 access points and do your HIGHLY illegal act of connecting and

 sending its data whenever it can.



 I'm not endorsing this behavior, of course, but I

RE: [WISPA] TRUCKPC

2006-12-30 Thread Ralph
I was on the way to one of our remote towers today and was on the interstate
next to two US Express trucks.  I turned on a sniffer to see if they also
had access points on them, but there was nothing. I guess they just scan,
looking for free wireless to use.

Being bored with the drive, I was thinking about the TRUCKPC thing a lot and
had an idea to make some code changes to the mobile access point I have in
my vehicle. Its hooked up to a verizon card and I have a roving EVDO to WIFi
hot spot gateway.  ( see  http://ralphfowler.com/stompbox/index.htm ) I
could make a couple of code changes to allow the box to also sniff a bit and
see exactly what these things are doing when they find a free internet
connection.

I was also thinking that we, as an industry, could possibly cut a deal with
Drivertech to allow their customers to have access to our networks.  Of
course there would be a lot more to work out and I'm not the guy for that
job ;-)


Just some Saturday musings...





-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 1:16 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] TRUCKPC

AHA

I've been wondering where the hell that TruckPC request has been coming
from!!

Occasionally, I have techs who have left the radius authentication disabled
on an access point and the dhcp logs will start to fill up with requests
from TruckPC.  They were coming from access points all over 
the place and I was a little perplexed.   It is interesting to watch our 
radius logs too.  I have one AP overlooking a little town of 200 people, but
it is right next to an interstate and the radius log from that AP is always
showing logins.  Must be all the trucker laptops whizzing by looking for an
open AP.

I've been toying with the idea of turning on hotspot functionality so that
we can provide transient access, and this is probably a good reason to do
it.

Matt Larsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Ralph wrote:
 Well, JohnnyO- you might want to also educate these people, then:
 http://www.drivertech.com/

 Their product, a Truckpc is being installed in many fleet vehicles. 
 One fleet that comes to mind is US Express, a long haul package hauling
service
 http://www.usxpress.com/   The device communicates back to the office via
 Satellite, Cellular, or WiFi- whichever is available and cheaper.  
 According to the manufacturer, it can hunt down open and unsecured 
 access points and do your HIGHLY illegal act of connecting and 
 sending its data whenever it can.

 I'm not endorsing this behavior, of course, but I wanted to bring it 
 to the attention of the list.

 How do I know?   My WISP operates hotspot portals that allow casual users
to
 make use of our mountain and tower-top sectors of WiFi.  These cover 
 major portions of several towns.  These towns have a major Interstate 
 route passing through them.  I began noticing numerous TRUCKPC leases 
 being granted by the DHCP servers in these towns.  I became concerned 
 about what they were, so I did a little internet research and ended up 
 on the phone with technical support at Drivertech. This is who 
 confirmed how these devices operate and who the probable fleet culprit
was.

 If anyone has portals near major truck routes, check your DHCP logs 
 and see if you see the TRUCKPC SSID grabbing leases. You may want to 
 either block it or contact these folks and work out a roaming agreement.



 Serious part over, joke follows:

 This message brought to you by the World's largest free wireless 
 internet provider. Look for our SSID wherever you go: Linksys.

 Ralph

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 On Behalf Of JohnnyO
 Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 5:35 PM
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 Subject: RE: [WISPA] recommendation for Client POE integrated radio 
 for802.11b/g

 Brian - Ham Operator or not - do you realize that what you're planning 
 on doing is HIGHLY illegal and has several people over the past 2 yrs 
 in Federal Prison as we speak ?

   

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Re: [WISPA] TRUCKPC

2006-12-30 Thread Travis Johnson




Hi,

Why would this company pay for WiFi access when they are now getting
all the access they need for free? It's actually a great idea... have
the trucks scan all the time and once they find an open AP, connect and
upload all their info.

Travis
Microserv

Ralph wrote:

  I was on the way to one of our remote towers today and was on the interstate
next to two US Express trucks.  I turned on a sniffer to see if they also
had access points on them, but there was nothing. I guess they just scan,
looking for free wireless to use.

Being bored with the drive, I was thinking about the TRUCKPC thing a lot and
had an idea to make some code changes to the mobile access point I have in
my vehicle. Its hooked up to a verizon card and I have a roving EVDO to WIFi
hot spot gateway.  ( see  http://ralphfowler.com/stompbox/index.htm ) I
could make a couple of code changes to allow the box to also sniff a bit and
see exactly what these things are doing when they find a free internet
connection.

I was also thinking that we, as an industry, could possibly cut a deal with
Drivertech to allow their customers to have access to our networks.  Of
course there would be a lot more to work out and I'm not the guy for that
job ;-)


Just some Saturday musings...





-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 1:16 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] TRUCKPC

AHA

I've been wondering where the hell that TruckPC request has been coming
from!!

Occasionally, I have techs who have left the radius authentication disabled
on an access point and the dhcp logs will start to fill up with requests
from "TruckPC".  They were coming from access points all over 
the place and I was a little perplexed.   It is interesting to watch our 
radius logs too.  I have one AP overlooking a little town of 200 people, but
it is right next to an interstate and the radius log from that AP is always
showing logins.  Must be all the trucker laptops whizzing by looking for an
open AP.

I've been toying with the idea of turning on hotspot functionality so that
we can provide transient access, and this is probably a good reason to do
it.

Matt Larsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Ralph wrote:
  
  
Well, JohnnyO- you might want to also educate these people, then:
http://www.drivertech.com/

Their product, a "Truckpc" is being installed in many fleet vehicles. 
One fleet that comes to mind is US Express, a long haul package hauling

  
  service
  
  
http://www.usxpress.com/   The device communicates back to the office via
Satellite, Cellular, or WiFi- whichever is available and cheaper.  
According to the manufacturer, it can hunt down open and unsecured 
access points and do your "HIGHLY illegal" act of connecting and 
sending its data whenever it can.

I'm not endorsing this behavior, of course, but I wanted to bring it 
to the attention of the list.

How do I know?   My WISP operates hotspot portals that allow casual users

  
  to
  
  
make use of our mountain and tower-top sectors of WiFi.  These cover 
major portions of several towns.  These towns have a major Interstate 
route passing through them.  I began noticing numerous TRUCKPC leases 
being granted by the DHCP servers in these towns.  I became concerned 
about what they were, so I did a little internet research and ended up 
on the phone with technical support at Drivertech. This is who 
confirmed how these devices operate and who the probable fleet culprit

  
  was.
  
  
If anyone has portals near major truck routes, check your DHCP logs 
and see if you see the TRUCKPC SSID grabbing leases. You may want to 
either block it or contact these folks and work out a "roaming agreement".



Serious part over, joke follows:

This message brought to you by the World's largest free wireless 
internet provider. Look for our SSID wherever you go: Linksys.

Ralph

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On Behalf Of JohnnyO
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 5:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] recommendation for Client POE integrated radio 
for802.11b/g

Brian - Ham Operator or not - do you realize that what you're planning 
on doing is HIGHLY illegal and has several people over the past 2 yrs 
in Federal Prison as we speak ?

  

  
  
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Re: [WISPA] TRUCKPC

2006-12-29 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists

AHA

I've been wondering where the hell that TruckPC request has been coming 
from!!


Occasionally, I have techs who have left the radius authentication 
disabled on an access point and the dhcp logs will start to fill up with 
requests from TruckPC.  They were coming from access points all over 
the place and I was a little perplexed.   It is interesting to watch our 
radius logs too.  I have one AP overlooking a little town of 200 people, 
but it is right next to an interstate and the radius log from that AP is 
always showing logins.  Must be all the trucker laptops whizzing by 
looking for an open AP.


I've been toying with the idea of turning on hotspot functionality so 
that we can provide transient access, and this is probably a good reason 
to do it.


Matt Larsen
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Ralph wrote:

Well, JohnnyO- you might want to also educate these people, then:
http://www.drivertech.com/

Their product, a Truckpc is being installed in many fleet vehicles. One
fleet that comes to mind is US Express, a long haul package hauling service
http://www.usxpress.com/   The device communicates back to the office via
Satellite, Cellular, or WiFi- whichever is available and cheaper.  According
to the manufacturer, it can hunt down open and unsecured access points and
do your HIGHLY illegal act of connecting and sending its data whenever it
can.  


I'm not endorsing this behavior, of course, but I wanted to bring it to the
attention of the list.

How do I know?   My WISP operates hotspot portals that allow casual users to
make use of our mountain and tower-top sectors of WiFi.  These cover major
portions of several towns.  These towns have a major Interstate route
passing through them.  I began noticing numerous TRUCKPC leases being
granted by the DHCP servers in these towns.  I became concerned about what
they were, so I did a little internet research and ended up on the phone
with technical support at Drivertech. This is who confirmed how these
devices operate and who the probable fleet culprit was.

If anyone has portals near major truck routes, check your DHCP logs and see
if you see the TRUCKPC SSID grabbing leases. You may want to either block it
or contact these folks and work out a roaming agreement.



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Subject: RE: [WISPA] recommendation for Client POE integrated radio
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Brian - Ham Operator or not - do you realize that what you're planning on
doing is HIGHLY illegal and has several people over the past 2 yrs in
Federal Prison as we speak ?

  


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